/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

honestly I don't know if I'm ever drawing furry heads right

>>5207732
Why do you say that? I think youre doing a great job friend!I feel the mouth is a bit low on the muzzle but that aside, i think its very appealing.

>>5207805
thanks anon that's very kind, I think I say that because I don't have much experience with stylization or furry art. And it looks like literally everyone has slightly different construction methods for 'furry heads'- some are based on human skulls, some purely animal, some in between and amongst all that is the choices of stylisation. I'll probably get used to it but it feels like balancing a lot more spinning plates when compared to just drawing humans. Plus I seem to have trouble believing in my own designs

>>5207732
they look a bit weird, trying using real life references.

Once again, alot of great and soulful pieces were posted last thread, ALOT ALOT. Keep up the excellent work everybody!

>>5207828
I did anon, I feel like I get into murky waters when I try to anthropomorphise them

>>5207824
This is true that there are many kinds of ways to go about it. The real question is what are you going for? Is there a particular style you want?

>>5207928
ah I suppose it's becoming self evident now that the construction methods change based on the design and purpose of the character.
But people like Darkgem, Logan Preshaw or Taran Fiddler seem to be able to know exactly where to put the boundary.
Again it seems like spinning plates to be able to create a fun design out of mixing a human and animal and I seem to have particular difficulty meshing the muzzle size and form with my ingrained idea of human face proportions.
fuck sorry for the paragraphs of shit no one cares about

>>5207958
It is very clear the human features in your work friend. The brow and eyes are distictly human. And perhaps that is where your problem lies? Perhaps, instead of adding animalistic features to a human, rather add human features to an animal. Of the inspirational art that you posted, aside from the dragon with the nose ring, I see the subjects to be more directly animal with just slight human features. Yours on the other hand, while drawn very well, id recon to appear to be a human with a fox mask on. I would suggest instead to draw a fox head and then move on to the other features?

>>5207980
haha I agree completely about the fox mask thing and you might've solved my problem entirely. Humans are so ingrained in me, but yeah I was going for something like bottom right, but maybe that isn't the way to go? it's all very confusing but thank you anon at the very least I have something to investigate

>>5207991
I've always thought Hale's work looked liked masked people but in a good way. Idk its too confusing rn, ill stop

You guys have a “limit” when it comes to furry stuff, i prefer scalies because it mixes a lot with xeno stuff in media but i dont like when involves mammals and hate the idea of having a fursona

>>5207958
I'm generally neutral on furry stuff but I love the top left snake girl.

>>5208337
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/w8KnZV

I I don’t know where I was going last night.

What do you guys think of this show's art style?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m09ZOHmGf8s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xalFTmnkprw

>>5208377
A bit too sketchy but doeant look too bad from what i can tell. Gonna finish it?

>>5208859
I don’t know if I should finish it. I also did my raccoon girl as April O’Neil. This all feels very degenerate to me.

>>5207732
You have a couple of problems with the perspective of the snout and would greatly benefit from making it either a bit less conic or a little less elongated from a design standpoint. But overall I believe you are doing great.

>>5208377
Princess leia?

hi, i'm new to /ic but this general looks good to me. Pic i finished yesterday. it's one of the better ones but I still cant figure out that fully painterly look I am aiming for.
I start lurking now.

I haven't drawn furries in a long time except a small sketch a few weeks ago. They used to be my happy place. It makes me really sad that I don't feel like drawing them anymore.

>>5209664
why? furries are cute

>>5209674
I don't know. I think I have lost this side of me.

>>5209708
There's nothing preventing you from regaining a furry side UwU

>>5208701
cute! i could imagine this pose on a beach scene

>>5209651
nice warwick, i think the heads a bit too far to the right side, doesnt look like its placed on the body right

I am struggling with art yet again. I definitely feel like I belong on the NGMI table most of the time away from all the GMI chads.

I keep on psychologically bouncing between "I need to fucking ground 8 hours a day drawing boxes in perspective" to "Nothing matters, ill never be good so I might as well just draw bad art my whole life and try to have fun"

>>5210499
it makes me really sad to hear that man, if you want to get into the whole 8 hours of practice a day stuff it's a lot easier if you enjoy it first. It doesn't even have to be 8 hours or whatever, ease yourself into it. What would be a fun way to study form? do you like animals? do you have a pet you could draw? It's such a life hack if you draw something where you'll enjoy the outcome regardless of the quality. Like for example copying your favourite artist's work 1 to 1 was a good way I found that warmed me up to the idea of drawing a lot more.
I see from your image that you might be having trouble with pen pressure, or even the way you draw on your tablet, maybe drawing some things with pencil and sketchbook could be fun.

Seriously having fun WHILST learning should be a higher priority than the learning if you are feeling bad about it all. I hope I'm not talking out my arse here but I have felt your pain. Plus drawing boxes can be a trap where you do it forever without applying the knowledge. Love you anon I see a lot of soul in that image

>>5210633
also reading a book about art can be really useful to calm me down when I'm manic about how bad I am/was. Like the book gives me something to grasp onto and have something in my head to capture in the drawing

>>5209102
You shouldn't feel guilty for liking things, anon, but I get your hesitation. Think you'll feel better if you just roll with it.

>>5208333
Her ya go scaley bro, to make you feel more at home

>>5208333
>>5210869
One more cause it was fun to draw this one

Just practicing faces. I feel like I’ve improved a lot over the past couple of weeks. but I always feel that way. And I’m always fooling myself. I’m the one who posted about being filled with rage at the realization I’ve gotten better.

>>5210890
I think your faces look great! They are my favorite part of your work.

>>5207732
in many ways you're on the right track, I think I make the same mistake often with the ears/eyes snout. for ex; look at the char's right eye - it's almost the same in both, even though the char has moved quite a bit. there's no shame in posing this https://x6ud.github.io/#/ tool to the direction of the head you're trying to create. I think then you'd see how exaggerated both angles are in a somewhat unbelievable way. GL

Here's something I recently started working on.

how do I paint like this? I mean the textures and the color blendings, especially at the tuft of fur. is this made with the simple brush pressure opacity and some smear tool magic? if you have any tutorials about this please share with me.

>>5211210
Got a story here?

Paper fag, here.
I like physically drawing, but society is moving so quickly towards digital that I almost feel compelled to get a tablet.
What do?

>>5211305
Why not just get a cheap scanner?
Though cheap tablets wont kill you either. I do agree however, its not always the same as physically drawing

>>5211210
I enjoy seeing your work around anon, it has a lot of feeling.

>>5210869
>>5210870
Cute

>>5209495
>>5210930
Thank you v much anons. These kind constructive (you)s are like shots of heroin straight to my veins compared to the lack of likes and comments i get
>>5210870
>>5210869
I really like the character of these

>>5210870
This talks to 4chan users on an spiritual level

>>5211915
I like this bun, where do I find more of it

>>5211299
No, not really. They are my characters and I've done stories with them before, but I have no idea how they ended up like this.

Though it does seem like the kind of situation they would be in...

>>5211573
Thank you very much. I miss doing anthro stuff. I've been focused on landscapes and cities lately, and I've neglected my character art.

>>5208333
Dragon-fans are just as embarrassing as furries, DESU. They're just another branch, like Bronies.

>>5211965
>>5212022
>>5212027
Thanks bros, it really does mean a lot.

>>5212544
Scalies and featherbros have better optics or plausible deniablity than furries. You can get away with giving them sparkledog colors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6nudPeQqE0

>>5212544
>They're just another branch, like Bronies.
I object, dragons are much cooler than miniature horses.

Yep....*sips*

Still can't draw.

Hi everyone

>>5212900
don't forget to use reference!

>>5213003

I did use one but i failed pretty hard at it and called it a day

>>5212036
thank you :)
my twitter is Voreparty i plan on drawing her more the next few days

>>5212900
This may be an odd question but do you draw exlusively on digital?

>>5212917
Interesting pose! Ifeel the hand may be a bit small but that could just be me. That aside keep it up!

>>5207705
Oh shit, there’s furry content in this board? Since when?

>>5213270

Nah, im pretty new to digital. Im struggling with it, it exposes all my bad habits and lack of skill. I could kinda get away with a bit more on pencil, and it's a lot easier to feel where your lines are going on pencil.

But regardless of what I draw on I will always suck

>>5213461
about 3 months now iirc

redone designs for a project
if anything looks off any comments are appreciated

yepp...*sips again*
least im tryin i guess

>>5212544
>>5212706
Scalies in general are more “accepted” because they appeared in media more and also because it mixes with xeno

drew anotha one

did this sketch is there any mistakes with it?

>>5213543
do you try construction? I think that can help a lot

>>5213660
I can't help much since I find perspectives like this to be very challenging. Though what strikes me first is that the arms are too close to the torso. Spread them out a bit so he'd look less stiff

wearing a swimsuit

>>5213908
cute!

>>5213660
i love your sketches, blog?

>>5213908
>that was a male bun all along
god damn it
well, it's still cute

Dr. Comet got me into trying a more "western furry" approach to my character designs. Any feedback on this? tried experimenting with the noise and the color palette a little

>>5213932
no shes female
just doing the male swimwear challenge!
>>5213931
thank you

>>5213800
noted!
>>5213931
thank you! but i do gay bara stuff if thats fine with you..

>>5214020
small update

my ban appeal got accepted, i can post again, yay

Commission i did a while ago, have more recent ones but all are nsfw

>>5214020
i love bara, no problem there.

>>5214131
https://twitter.com/hayaihaya5
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/60382958

>>5213954
git gud at anatomy and perspective, then try again.

Read perspective made easy, then try something like marshal vandruffs course. then go for eric olson. do this simultaneously with prokos course. memorize those bones, then the muscles.

>>5213469
left leg of the jewish magical guardian dog looks a bit disjointed, as if the hip was misplaced, but other than that I really like their designs and what you did there, may I ask what is your project about? it looks fun!

>>5213660
he looks stiff like a statue, but I can't blame you since more natural poses are a bit hard when you are using perspectives like these, I would add a bit more space between the head and the shoulders too

>>5214390
is this pose and shoulders better?

>>5213469
I hate jews ,so I'll let this >>5214379
guy judge the weird dog on the left.

As for the one on the right I really like. Maybe use folds on the lifted leg as wrapping lines to show us that the leg is coming forward. very nice aesthetic over all.

Where do you keep coming up with the clothing for the character on the left?

>>5214481
I used to do this too, desu anon its kind of hard to make this kind of angle look natural if you are using boxes and squares. Yes it defines the perspective very well, but you arent drawing the assymetrical forms of the body within these squares. Remember, squares and rectangles are for perspective, but they do not make out the actual forms. For that, you have to study the bones and muscles of the body, most importantly their structure. and dont forget the gesture. If theres no gesture, forget it.

Still, overall, I have high hopes for you. I like your overall style. keep fucking going. Make those lines less hairy.

Oh and keep grinding perspective, no matter what while you do anatomy, follow this advice:
>>5214295

>>5214061
>draws like that
Maybe you shouldn't have been unbanned.

Come back when you learn pestpective

>>5214537
it was a drawing i made a year ago but thanks, i know it's fucked up

>>5214531
im currently trying to memorize arm muscles, its hard to imagine them in 3d form but i will try my best to memorize them!

>>5214552
Good boy, try proko's course, but It will prove to be difficult without good perspective and volume knowledge. Basic forms are everything. Once you master those, you can manipulate them to form an arm.

>>5212535
I've been watching you a bit here, but I don't have social media so I lost track. I'm not on the internet very much... I went offline for months. You were making a comic a while ago, right? If you still have it can you link it?

>>5214061
Whyd ya get banned friend?

>>5214743
linked my furaffinity in the self promotion thread

>>5214762
Sorry bro. Well at least youre back. Keep practicing!

>>5214762
you can get banned for that?

>>5214133
This is totally irrelevant but I admire your efforts to learn and write japanese, how long have you been studying and how proeficient do you perceive yourself to be nowadays?

>>5214379
aaa, ill look into that, my own bad for working way past my limit
i get blind to my own drawings
and its a collaborative project! a fantasy middle eastern inspired project, ill make sure to post those here when we get them finished

>>5214520
you mixed up the dogs there but if you meant the shibe for the outfits and clothing
its my character that i like to dress up in outfits id wear/like to own
its a lot of thinking of themes then imagining what i would wear in them

>>5214481
its looking good so far!! are you the hung artist from last thread? I really like your work

>>5214825
that body detail is nice, if you ask me though that hand might be a bit too small/dainty, the position hand pose reads feminine (i assume youre going for a masculine character)

Thread has slowed down, so here's my sprites for the dead /vrpg/ game, RIP

>>5214930
I only started seriously studying japanese last year, so im still really bad but can voice most of my thoughts in really simple japanese, but if i where to talk with a japanese person irl i wont be able understand most of it, as for reading i have memorized all of the katakana and hiragana, kanji is still quite hard but i can understand some of it with my chinese knowledge(not that my chinese is good either)
>>5215096
yep that was me i'm glad you like my work! im surprised you were able to tell, what gave it away?

>>5215611
Are animal-monsters really a /fag/ thing?

>>5214828
apparently someone didn't like my lewd drawing of a cow and reported me and the mod didn't bother to look into the thread and just sent the hammer

>>5215096
I see, maybe i should've used a reference of some sort.
>>5214133
Are you going to finish this drawing? He's cute.

Why do I struggle so damn much with the shirt collar?!

Good morning my furry friends, what are you drawing today?

>>5216325
Pic rel is mine, a gift for a friend.

>>5215982
definitely! but not for now since im working on other stuff

More Sam and max

>>5216646
you crack me up lil buddy

>>5215622
I cant coom to this so no

>>5215635
Mouth looks like shit, draw in 3d

>>5216001
You are definitely getting better so props to you.

Collars are simple but you have to copy them with reference. I've never had a problem drawing collars simce I learned how in 2013 by doodling an actual picture of a random anime character and an irl dude. Never forgot the form, its natural to me.

and No i havent been drawing since 2013. Started drawing seriously 2 years ago

Update for the curious

>>5215635
Mouth looks great, keep doing what you're doing.

>>5214635
Oh gosh I haven't done anything with that comic in the better part of a decade. I can link you what I did finish, though.

https://www.deviantart.com/benjamin-the-fox/gallery/39351916/the-shuttered-city-lettered

Aight lads, I cant seem to get rendering right just yet, so I'm gonna keep hitting the books on anatomy, perspective and lighting.

>>5215096
In the mean time, I'm gonna use your technique of simplification and flat colors, kemonochad. Also nice drawing.

>>5216380
looks much more natural now that your line art is cleaned up.

>>5216768
Looks better than the first image you posted. Show final image.

>>5216001
Looking more appealing everyday. Keep it coming. I've been watching you since the start.

Can we get some vent/rage posts going? My art is very stagnant and I can only draw the same 2 or 3 things over and over again. When I look at better artists I can't comprehend how they can create original designs, interesting staging, AND looking good/competently drawn every single time.

That didn’t go well. Ah, I was just trying to explore Cassie Coon’s new look. Yeah. That’s my excuse.

When I first started drawing these Anthro gals I had those whole porno lore about how they were slaves to adolescent boys. You know, when it’s not bad enough that you’re a filthy enough excuse for a human being that you like straight shota you decide to double down and combine it with furry. I never really drew much with the boys, though, but they’ve stuck around in my mind. Just can’t bring myself to draw them banging the gals. Figure the FBI will me down.

>>5215615
you got a consistent style going on, your works definitely improved since that piece too

>>5216768
really cute anon

>>5217767
hey look our drawings can be friends c:
glad to hear that you took an interest in my techniques
although you should immediately drop it when you find something better, i can't imagine my drawing style to be helpful long term. im mostly style and not much understanding of fundies

>>5213954
Any resources or videos for learning how to draw characters in actual angles or with much more 3d feel when they're in simple ones like this? Also I can't seem to do more proper anime art styles without It looking even more off

>>5217892
Its useful for when I want to draw for fun but without spending too much time on it. Drawing furry art takes alot of my time. I should instead be spending most of it studing the muscles like I was before.

Also i really love the background on this one, how did you draw this stars. I cant draw stars for shit. Character looks very appealing. And nice detail making him pop out from the back ground with that white border.

Do you smoke irl?
I used to

>>5217893
Fundies

>>5217767
>>5217892
Many thanks! Here's the colored version.

>>5217892
Thank you! im glad to hear ive improved anyways small update

>>5217895
soudns good
all that fundie grinding and maybe you can invent some super cool technique cheat i can steal back from ya

the background was really easy really, the stars were a pattern i made on another canvas and copy+pasted over
if you look close enough its like 5 stars i copy pasted into a pattern and put 4 onto the finished piece, using it as a clipping layer over the galaxy background and matching the colors to the background

and only a bit
ive touched sativa oils and smoked like 2 packs total, age for smoking is 21 so i still got 2 more years till i can get some legally

How to draw Crash Bandicoot???

>>5217835
Youre getting better. Truely. Got a blog friend?

Done! which one should i go with

>>5218321

>>5218323

>>5218321
2 or 3, leaning on 2 imo. goob job man! this is super cute.

>>5218382
thank you! yeah i agree 2 is quite charming!

>>5218258
>>5218254
Adorable! Needs LineWidth variation.

I gave up on practicing perspective and construction and drew this in like 10 mins instead

i wanna die. i dont know how to get better

>>5218699
By practicing perspective, and construction

>>5218703

yeah. I just can't get it to stick into my artwork. I can do boxes with rulers and stuff, but I dont understand how drawing boxes makes your random art better. I can't incorporate it into what I do when I start just drawing stuff.

>>5218711
not him but if you wanna draw from imagination you should be drawing from reference like half the time AT LEAST.
Learn to construct from reference using these primitive forms, boxes, spheres, they all can make up the head of an animal.
Go into the artbook thread and read the basic stuff like loomis' "fun with a pencil"
Pic related is from searching "animal head construction" into google

>>5218711
Freehand those boxes, then use them to place beaks, snouts, or heads. Kim Jung Gi visualizes figures in them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVn205YsQhY&list=PLrg1NICzlqVc_fV37bT7VmySDoG0Bobeu&index=15
>>5218699
Mindless grinding won't work too because you won't pay attention to it, you'll love learning if you apply those skills in a way that would appeal to you. Use those techinques to copy/study artwork that you like. Also try drawing in collaborative drawing software like Drawpile since it's designed to churn a lot of sketches/paintings in a short amount of time.

>>5217954
>>5209922
guy who stole your simplification method here. There's so much art that I didn't even notice these. First one is my fav.

I'm wondering who is gonna get the next /fag/ title. Who decides that anyway?

>>5209708
I've also had furry burnout, they all look too similar and generic to me
>>5209708
>UwU
This is why people hate furries

>>5213469
Take out unnecessary details. Leave only the things that tells the audience who the characters are.

>>5214090
The white shines on the fur and tail make him look wet.

>>5216646
Max with... groin lines? makes me uncomfortable for some reason

>>5218254
Stretch marks on fur? How does that work

>>5218728

yeah I read all that stuff but I really struggle with drawing primitive forms from different angles

I can do like the 2 point perspective training routine where you draw 2 VPs and you draw boxes by connecting all the lines

but how the fuck do you draw like a rotated crooked pyramid floating through space attached to a slightly askew box and have it all match perspective?

I just have no idea how to draw 3d shapes properly.

>>5218821
draw fish

>>5217954

For some reason half of my reply got deleted: this goes after this >>5217954


I said that smoking screws up teeth and becomes a major distraction, stay away from it at all costs. Both weed and tabaco.

oh and great work as always kemonochad. I need to start drawing clothing the way you do.

Grind your anatomy more. also post blog

Why is /fag/ unironically one of the more productive boards on /ic/?

>>5218760
thanks! it was part of a commission for someone, they also wanted a sketch for a new character, picrel

probably just whatever an anon decides is the image they like most for OP, it doesnt cross my mind much

>>5219017
yeah no thanks,
that plus its a financial sink im not ready for, i already buy a ton of other wasteful things

thanks! i was thinking i should maybe get back to studying them, felt some good improvement past couple of weeks but i need to make sure its all grounded on reality to prevent it from becoming muh style

feel like i posted but https://dad.gallery/users/1894/submissions?page=1 is my do art daily page and has furry + non furry stuff
twitter is https://twitter.com/maze1002/ but you guys see more here than youll find on that account

WHEN DO I GET TO DRAW LOONEY TUNES???

>>5218937
I don't know what to say other than learn how to draw them freehand without a ruler. Matching perspectives with attached object should be easy man.
You don't need a vanishing point and all that if you're just drawing a head. head looking up? midline curves upwards. head looking down? midline of that sphere curves downwards. Watch a video on how to construct a head or something I'm not a good resource sorry

>>5219360
Shhh... nobody tell him

>>5219360
no nsfw in this thread! very good though

>>5219371
>>5219366
Can someone repost it in the trash art improvement thread i missed it

I saw one of you nuggers brazenly walking around at my wagecuck grocery job with the fur mask, kys and keep your disgusting fetish to yourself you degenerates

>>5217904
looks very nice anon. you should try out digital some time.

How does one get better? If “just draw” is supposed to be a crab meme then what have I done? I never grinder fundies or read Loomis and I still rarely use references. I’m not even sure I do construction. To me, it’s mutually exclusive with “feeling the form.”

>>5219569
Where did you get the idea that was a crab meme? It's just mostly intended for people that never actually start drawing so all they do is complain and never improve, with that said you can definitely get better by just winging it but also will likely do it slightly slower than somebody that's using references and actively practicing a skill in a clear direction.

>>5219433
>Furrychad strolls by the waggies and dabs on them with his superior shameless crafts
BASED

>>5219433
ngl i wish i could find another gf who was kind of into the pet play thing
she would sometimes wear the ears and tailplug and it was the hottest shit ever

>>5219638
Where do you get one of those?

>>5219643
if a girl actually likes anime there's a good chance she'd be into that too

>>5216646
>>5219360
Aww man i wanted sam nsfw. love your lines bro

>>5218254
do you have a blog i like her

>>5217835
study anatomy, shit is getting promising. The separation between the pelvis and ribs are too long.

>>5217838
>He does not know...

>>5219780
I try to make her a little lanky. But I guess there’s a difference between stretched and absurd.
>>5219914
I know. But uh maybe you should tell me so I can be sure you know what I know. Ya know?

>>5211210

Final Inks on this. Some smudges that annoy me because graphite just seems to smudge on hot-press watercolor paper.

Never mind, they'll be covered up once I paint this thing.

had a shot i dont like her eyes

>>5211210
>sketchy smudgy art
SOUL
>>5220121
>clean defined lines
SOULESS

>>5220139

Settle down. It's all going to be covered in paint anyway. I just wanted clean lines to start with so I have a clearly defined layout to work with. I don't feel like deciding whether one smudge or another is a chunk of rubble or a scrap of debris while I'm painting.

>>5220133

I think that the whole face needs work. The line weight isn't that great either.

There is no texture. Just looks like a bright pink hairless mole rat.

Try scale down the head a little too.

Any quick tips before I fix and paint the tail?
I'm trying to make the background interesting while keeping the character in focus, but everything's ending up a little muddy

>>5218937
In the /ic/ mega torrent, there's a video course called "the art and science of drawing" that goes over this. They're called "compound forms"

>>5218737
>Drawpile
How does it help get sketches out? Does the social aspect make it more fun?

>>5220746

Thanks, I am going to dl this right now.

>>5219129
Morning maze, Remember this drawing? you told me the arm was long, changed that shit to make it normal sized then made It a meme.

I went to plebbit on a new acc and this shit got 2.8k upvotes.

I used that guide image you gave me to get the ears right. You did this.

>>5220746
>How does it help get sketches out? Does the social aspect make it more fun?
It alleviates the pressure that comes with drawing and motivates you to draw more. You'll definitely reach the 1000 hour mark if you do.

If you're around weaker artists, then they'll be impressed. IF you're around stronger artists, you can ask them for advice. If you're around artists with the same level, then it'll be like a competition.

>>5220929
>>5219129
Talking about this one

>>5220934
Any servers you recommend?

>>5220148
Aight, just so you know, I was just messing with you, the clean one better and you did a good job with it.

>>5220937
We all know the truth deep inside anon, the patOwOgen is strong.

>>5221024
>patOwOgen
That sounds like a fucking nightmare to me. I refuse to become a furry. Drawing them is so god damn fun though.

I keep realizing that If I ever make it big some day, it will probably be because of furry shit. Lord help us all.

>>5221024
That bio isn't a lie btw. My friends have disavowed me. It started with a "how low can you go" game in my head.

At first I sucked drawing furry shit but now I'm getting good. All because of a joke.

>>5221020
Well thank you. I can't tell what's a joke on this board half the time.

Actually the only thing from the sketch that I lost on the final is the rabbit's facial expression. Not fully happy with his look in the inked version. Feel like I lost some subtlety of emotion.

Must try to fix that when I paint it.

>>5220929
good morn! i remember that pic, im really fond of it and glad you got recognition from it!
>You did this.
i'd say its all you, all i did was help out a bit

>>5221048
if you'd call yourself a furry then youre a furry, and vice versa
but hey, if you like creating content around it what difference does not calling yourself a furry make

>>5219569
I'll give you some advice. Check out Michael Hampton's book. He starts off with gestural drawings and shows you how to build up your anatomy around those gestures, so you don't get stuck trying to fix your anatomy while still figuring out the pose of the character.

>>5221084
>i rememberthat pic, im really fond of it
aww stop it you

>i just helped out a bit
you have no idea how many times ive refered to that. I had never drawn furry shit before, only humans/sonic shit. I improved quickly. Good thing I had a few years of drawing experience under my belt or I wouldn't have been able to use your guides much. I'm beginning to think I can pretty much draw anything. omw to become the next miles_df, its just a matter of time, and a shit load of fundies. Its all coming together.

>>5221084
btw great work with the oc as always. Whats his name

>>5220121
>>5220148
Hey, thanks for the link.
I think the face of the character on the left works a lot better in the sketch, assuming your intent is the same. In the new one the face looks angry/annoyed. Previous one looks more tired and beaten up.

i hate copying from refs
it's so boring

>>5221958
just draw

>everyone being supportive of each other
>everyone is drawing
>alot of unique, soulful art pieces are being posted every thread since it was started a few months back

This is...nice. Extreme thanks goes to the OP of this thread and all the drawfags that have kept it strong and soulful. I think we're all GMI.

>>5221914
Yeah that's what I lost when I inked it. I'll have to try and recapture that feeling when I paint his face.

>>5221958
Draw your refs with animal people and tails.

>grow up with anthro kids cartoons
>grow up and the anthro characters tend to be mindless monsters
>every now and then you get a cartoon with an anthro side character
>start drawing, want to get into drawing anthro creatures
>"next stop, furry fandom"
>horrified with the incorrigible demand of porn
>all artists are porn artists
>promptly stop drawing anthro creatures

>drawing my author avatar as an "it's just my art style" - tier furboi feels natural but drawing myself as a human feels cringy and weird
What does it mean?

>>5222264
I WANNA watch a show about THIS CAAAAAAT

>>5222170
yeah its nice.
although it seems that there are more than one OP

I've been trying to learn to draw on and off again for several years and I don't feel like I've learned anything whenever I try. A friend told me to just start with Fun With a Pencil but I've been doing the first few exercises and it doesn't feel like I'm doing anything right. Every time I look at anything I produce, it just looks like shit and I don't know what to do. It also feels like I get the same meaningless platitudes over and over. "Just draw. Just stick with it. Just learn anatomy." None of this really means anything to me and I wind up losing motivation to where I drop it, only to try yet again in vain some time later.

>>5222264
poor cat just needs a break

>>5222349
I meant the original person who started these threads and the others who keeps it going.
It's really some motivating, inspirational stuff.

>>5222368
Don’t try to copy what loomis draws exactly, apply the concepts to something simpler. Those early heads he does are actually pretty complicated and you’ll only frustrate yourself trying to match them.

>>5220981
any would be good, plus it'll break your shyness around others

>>5222368
another one falls victim to pain with a pencil. Just draw (tm) what you want now, read Betty Edwards and do exercises to get your self-confidence up.

>>5219569
"just draw" is a meme in the sense that if all you do is draw without guidance or recognizing your faults and learning where to improve, your skills will only improve at a very slow rate.

If you want to actively become better you have to actively study, just like any other applied skill. You say you don't grind fundamentals or use references or construction, well maybe it's time you started.

>>5222460
>>5223002
Is there some kind of schedule or routine I should stick to? How long should I spend time with these books? There's so much information on which books to use but it's overwhelming. I don't know which book is best to use to start. I have both the Betty Edwards and Bert Dodson books, along with at least two of the Loomis ones. There's other people saying to work on fundamentals and still others saying, "Focus on one particular thing you want to draw, then study everything related to it." There's too much to where I start doing one thing, then get discouraged because it feels like I didn't start with the right thing. I get the same platitudes from everyone and it all feels so futile. It's barely been a weekend and I'm already thinking about giving up again.

>>5223263
The process is different for everyone so you’ll get a lot of conflicting answers. I didn’t read any art books until I had already had some success learning to draw on my own. What worked for me was looking at reference and trying to do my own thing with it. Drawing faces at different angles, flipping the image, etc. trying to understand the 3d forms is by far the most important part of learning to draw in my opinion

>>5223314
I'm sorry but it's feeling increasingly hopeless. This feels like another "you just have to do X" platitude to me. I have no confidence and I know that everything I do ultimately winds up in failure. I have no structure or real guidance to look to. I've been considering taking drawing lessons but I have no fucking clue if it's worth it. A guy I talk to about computer shit with tried helping but it didn't feel like it did anything. The guides and shit all say you have to improve your mentality and you only learn from failure, but what do you say to the person who doesn't learn anything from failure?

>>5207705
when did /FAG/ become a thing?

>>5223600
This is something a therapist helps with, not an anonymous Congolese bear taming forum.

>>5223600
>>5223263
Just a suggestion mind you, only if you're lacking direction.

>>5223263
>>5223600
>>5223685

>>5223600
You need to fix your mentallity anon, and I am saying this in a supportive way, how do you expect to ever succeed if you've already conclude you are going to fail before even starting? Art is not magic anon, it's a complex subject yes, but it's not beyond anyone's reach really.

>>5223685
>>5223686
These are schedules that look like they're geared for someone who has an idea of what they're doing, not a beginner. I can't fathom posting my work on social media because I'm too ashamed to do so. Besides, it's not like an artist I like would ever see it.

anons, can I ask you something probably said a million times in these threads.
You hear about how "easy" it is to get furry commissions but it seems like they just appear out of nowhere for some people. Is it literally 'just draw enough and someone will ask' or are you advertising somewhere? also wtf is an adopt I feel very dumb

I know I should study my fundies more but any feedback on the idea?

>>5223687
I know I'm going to fail because this has happened multiple times before. I tell myself I'm going to learn to draw, I give it a shot for a week or a month or so, I see no improvement, I get discouraged, and finally give up before attempting it all over again either several months or even years later. I'm almost thirty and it feels like I've learned nothing in all this time. The constant failure with no improvement has cemented the idea in my head and I question why I bother. The desire is there, but I don't have the ability nor the mentality. Telling me to fix the latter doesn't do anything for me.

>>5223773
do you want someone to tell you to give up? Literally just draw or don't. If you have breaks of months or years don't be surprised you can't even remember what you learned the last time you drew. If you enjoy it, draw. If you don't and you don't need to draw, then stop.

>>5223747
for me its 30% twitter 70% discord
ive taken habit of streaming while i draw and a few people hop on and ask for comms
that + just being more involved in the community ime works the best

>>5223752
i like it! im not sure if therye meant to be hiding from the character in the back but if they are i wouldve changed the camera angle a bit to show the main character more instead of the boxes theyre in front of

>>5223845
i love this so much

>>5223841
70% discord? jeez I thought discord was just for small groups- I'm guessing you're posting on specifically furry channels that are like WTS-art.
And I'm guessing being more involved just means posting to places like reddit and shit more :P
Love your stuff maze, always appealing.

>>5223846
Thanks

>>5223859
>thought discord was for small groups
yes and no
im in a few public servers (2000+ members) and would post some of my finished pieces on there
theirs not as many artists in those groups usually so if you have some appeal youre more likely to get attention vs big social sites
and thanks! its a small collab with a twitter friend, they did the sketch and i took it from there

>>5223881
so helpful thank you so much

>>5223710
Probably good to do it with a friend.
>>5223747
Do gifts for popular artists that you like.

>>5223841
Twitter is so confusing to me, at least furaffinity, e621 and discord are easy to figure out when it comes to exposure and discovery, but twitter always feels like a shout into the void, how did you get to build an audience there if I may ask?

>>5223894
>Do gifts for popular artists that you like.
heavily based wholesome and smart idea

I’m not sure if this or the other picture was got my last one deleted, but there isn’t any nudity so I’m giving it another shot

>>5223898
do you have any furry friends? ill be honest ive been really lucky getting into twitter, had a small group that were a lot a more established and their likes/retweets helped at the start
but for growing outside of that initial circle i'd recommend >>5223894
picrel was a piece of my character wearing a design of rinrinwolf's shirt designs, didnt tag them but i dropped their site link and they noticed and gave it a rt
gave me like 20 followers it was a trip

>>5223791
I guess I'm looking for someone to tell me how you stay motivated despite not feeling like you learn anything. How do you not look at everything you do and just dismiss it as shit? Would some kind of online class help? What should I do to start if I don't even feel like I understand the basics?

>>5223913
>there isn't any nudity
But I can see his butt down there, with the pants pulled down? Or am I seeing things?

>>5223931
If you're not learning anything then lack of motivation is only natural I guess.
If you look at everything you do and dismiss it as shit then you're not applying new knowledge to it, everything is stagnant when you feel like that.
An online course/ even a video course like on New Masters Academy (there's a free trial) can be very helpful when you feel helpless and nothing's working, because it gives you tasks to perform and you get to see in real time the methodology of the artist whilst (s)he's drawing.

I recommend to you to just relax for the moment. Commit to long term drawing if you want results, they won't come in days or weeks. Calm your worries about not being good by figuring out a specific simple thing and doing it, like freehand boxes.

>>5223913
anon your art reminds me of why drawing is fun. Really dynamic. Blog?

>>5223931
Just draw what you like. Determine the things that you struggle with, study those things via ref/books/tutorials, and apply what you've learned into creating a different piece.

You don't have to do full pages, just draw and take note of the stuff most relevant to you.

>>5223614

When Snacks was banned.

>>5223918
i fucking hate this piece of shit dog so much

>>5223931
>How do you not look at everything you do and just dismiss it as shit?
If you do nothing, then you'll remain shit. If you do something, then you will be better than you were before.

Mak3 sure to exercise

>>5224316
>t.cat

>>5222264
blog

>>5223931
As long as you keep studying and practicing, you'll get better. You probably won't notice at first because the transition will be over a long time. But when you begin to compare your current work to what you were doing a year or two years ago (or even as soon as a couple of months ago if you practice really hard) you will start to see the improvements you've made and it's one hell of a motivator.

>How do you not look at everything you do and just dismiss it as shit?
Almost every time I finish a piece, the next day I look at it and tell myself "Man this sucks" or "I could do better". I think it's a common thing for a lot of artists, but what's important is recognizing the flaws and understanding what you could do to improve that pic. Just don't get stuck trying to refine it forever, move onto the next pic instead. Take every criticism and put it in your pocket for next time.

Looks like Ovopack's made a VRtuber channel, thought i'd share it. Since it could be a pretty good resource for learning and getting to see his art process.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVmGLWjACuA&t=4323s

>>5224607
*sigh* looks like the V-Tuber cancer finally hit this general, it was a good run-
>skim to 9 minutes in
Holy shit I fucking love this art and the avatar is not some generic weeb shit. Nevermind this is amazing, thanks for the info Anon.

>>5224607
>>5224807
He made it as well, he works for Square Enix and did the character designs of the Secret of Mana III reboot.

thoughts on this sketch?
>>5225136
shes soo cute! i want to draw her sometimes!

Give me 5 artists or pieces of media that inspires you.

>>5226149
Y... You first!

>>5224807
I surprised you haven't heard of him before, ovopack is arguably the best kemono artist out there

>>5226149
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/centradragon/

this artist is my main inspiration for starting furry art.

>>5226149
mystikfox61
chunie
zackary911
darkgem
noswift

>>5226149
reaganlodge, whaleoil2 ...
thats pretty much it at least for this sphere of art, some of the things posted by the guys here are nice

>>5226976
honest question, are you an artist? like do you draw or paint or anything?

>>5226994
i draw, not as much as i should honestly but i do, still very /beg/

My rarely drawn rabbit girl. I just have to accept I can’t do sexy, like Lola bunny, and will have to settle for cute.

First time I've ever colored boobs. also I hope this is cropped well enough don't ban me jannie

:)

>>5220121

I should probably not upload every single step of working on this, but I don't know how long it will be before I can get to the next step so here!

Inkpad ink over Copic marker, worked over with Payne's grey gouache. Basically whatever I had lying around my desk. (Before it's done I'll probably break out the watercolor pencils and water-soluble crayons too!)

>>5227327
what a cutie
where will he go

>>5207705
How do I learn to draw like this?

>>5227385
this would look great if you added to the character's colors to make them stand out from the background a little more

>>5227447
Oh I will, I will.

This is just the base layer to get the tones and atmosphere I want in.

small update
>>5227430
try to redrawing them your own, study from that artist
>>5227327
soulful! are you going to colour him?

>>5227327
Fly high, big doggo!!

>>5227493
Gonna ink it probably but no color. I have a hard time with traditional color :( maybe I'll do it digitally.

>>5227392
Moab

>>5227430
>hmm source?
The trick to 99% of kemono related questions is to make copies over copies of the drawings you like and learn what makes them look the way the do, all japanese artist copy from one another, nothing prevents you from doing the same.

>>5224316
me too thanks
>>5224416
its a shibe

wew
biggest piece ive done to date, ~18 hours total, hopefully it shows

>>5227533
https://twitter.com/marim189981?s=09
I always make the proportions bad. After drawing so many 6/8 heads ratio humans the chibi style absolutely evades me now

>>5226149
Focus
Dentyou
Kokimantaru
Deerchip
Telson/kuroblood I think it’s the same person

Would any other poorfags like some dithethering brushes for firealphaca? I figured out how to make them with the pattern brushes, will be posting when i can

>>5228455
Some of us prefer to change the definition of free software anon , torrenting sites are your friends.

>>5218699
I actually really this! I don’t know what you were going for, but it gives me a crusty transgressive art feel. Like pic related.

What types of furries would be best for a shy BBW nerd girl?

How do I bring myself to post my furry art here? I love these threads and want to participate but Im ashamed to show the crap I make. Everyone is so full of ideas here, I dont know how you do it.

>>5229058
Raccoon or panda.

>>5229131
POST IT POST IT POST IT

>>5227544
I assume you mean kemo shota, not chibi as that is a different thing, but in any case my advice is the same, don't just copy drawings like your pic related unless you pretend to draw them always stiff, copy every drawing where those proportions are featured even if they have weird and complex angles, what you want is your brain to become so familiar with the subject that you will end up internalizing those proportions without even realizing it and be able to recall them later on your own works, understand them.

>>5229058
>BBW
A what?

>>5229058
Panda

>>5229058
bear, cow, pig, crocodile, chungus

>>5229131
I feel the same way about my art so I rarely post here but i did post one thing in the thread. If I did it you can too, plus I like to see what others draw so post it

>>5229208
Big bulbous woman

>>5229131
post it, most regulars here arent assholes

>>5218845
Maybe he is Owo

>>5227535
Jesus bro, how did you make the background like that? How did you make simplify those computer elements, as in the actual UI on the screens. This is really good.

>>5227535
I... I can tell you have a thing for shibas maze

>>5229479
ill be honest, its mostly just tracing over screenshots i took of discord/ableton and pictures from google
the camera was cross referenced with another drawing of mine and the guitar is trace over of my guitar i took to match the angle
hopefully that doesnt ruin your opinion on the piece too much

>>5229512
i own more shiba paraphernalia irl, its been a near constant obsession since doge era, im not very proud of it :(

more coloring practice

>>5229629
HECKING CUTERINO!!!

>>5229610
>i own more shiba paraphernalia irl, its been a near constant obsession since doge era, im not very proud of it :(
Well, you should be, shibas are adorable!

>>5220736
can i get some feedback before the thread dies?

>>5229955
maybe make the background a little darker and the light strips brighter, try a cooler color scheme for the background

any suggestion on what i should add on the dashboard? it feels a little plain

>>5230024
hula girl

>>5230024
air fresheners

So let's say that I posted a thing to FA and left it up for about 18 hours before realizing there was a major problem with it and deleted it. How long should I wait before reuploading it to avoid incurring the wrath of the jannies? I've heard that they're pretty banhappy over there.

new thread when?

>>5230218
You could just click update source file and reupload the image. No need to delete it.

>>5230252
Normally that's what I'd do, but it wasn't a problem that I could fix in a super short amount of time and the guy I did it for is pretty autistic about staying on model. It's gonna take at least a day to fix, so I just wanna make sure that I'm not breaking any super secret upload policy rules or anything.

>>5230258
As far as I know, I don't think that's gonna break any rules. There only seems to be restrictions on YCH reminders and duplicates

done which should i go with?

>>5230355

figure drawing really pays off

>>5230503
>>5230503
>>5230503

New thread friends

>>5207980
>>5208017
if you want to reduce the human wearing a mask vibe try making the cranium much much smaller. thats what all animal skulls are like

>>5230463
Make sure you censor nudity friend lest the jannies ban you. That being said, your work is what i strive for. I really do love it

>>5230510
>>5230552