/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>7018268
pyw

>>7018271
latest one

>>7018268
>>7018273
algorithm's fucked

>>7018268
>>7018273
make accounts on other social medias bro

>>7018273
I tell you what, give me your socials and ill retweet your favourite piece. I have like a thousand followers

>>7018287
https://baraag.net/@nabelhouse@misskey.io/media

>>7018291
>misskey
that makes a lot more sense

>>7018291
It's such a shame whenever competent artists get ignored. I thought the low number of followers that you mentioned was due to you being on a Fediverse instance, but no, your Twitter has an abysmally low number of followers as well. I guess you should draw more fanart of popular characters and make gift art of popular people in hopes of them retweeting it. Alternatively, crank up the sex appeal, but even that feels cheap.

>>7018291
https://twitter.com/nabelhouse/media
bro...

>>7018310
>64 followers

>>7018310
it's over for him, it doesn't help the he looks like some cheap version of rariatoo too. fan art would save this account. Making og content with a style of a popular artist would just hard cap you, gotta stick with the fan art route at this point.

>>7018310
Asians don't give a flying fuck about OC. I've seen artists that average 10k likes receive 1000< on OC. It's almost exclusively a western thing among teens, trannies, furries and other undesirables from discord.

>>7018330
>Asians don't give a flying fuck about OC.

You're wrong and probably only follow a bunch of white bg slop artists.

>>7018273
I'd say you just lucked out with the algorithm. This is cute.

>>7018268
Try starting a new account. If I had to guess, you aren't getting any followers because you spam too many posts daily

>>7018291
>>7018310
Ditch the stupid big head shit and draw more fanart/coom. You will thank me later.

>>7018330
Dumbass, why do you retarded weebs always assume shit about Asians?
https://twitter.com/bone_Nigi/media
https://twitter.com/navigavi
https://twitter.com/gogalking
https://twitter.com/rariatoo
https://twitter.com/some1else45
https://twitter.com/linween1/media
https://twitter.com/Ve_Xillum/media

>>7018342
there are literal thousands like this, people care about ocs regardless

>>7018330
When you're Asian on twitter you can expect most of your fanbase to be western, of course they won't give a shit about your OC since it comes with walls of moon runes they can't read.

The ones who machine translate their contznt for us long-noses don't lose nearly as much engagement as the ones who tell you to kill yourself and hope you reincarnate as a jap

>>7018342
I'm not looking at allat. Shall we see what got them to the point where they can comfortably post OC in the first place?

>>7018368
https://x.com/TetoriRina/status/1416419010749501441?s=20
https://x.com/Ve_Xillum/status/1633786894147538944?s=20
https://x.com/xmztTCat146ULV3/status/1708498253271237080?s=20
not going to put more effort than this for a retard like you.

Draw more fanart until you get big enough following and get good enough for people to enjoy all your art regardless of content. Doesn't have to be the fanart of big new thing, just something you are willing to make works for consistently.

>>7018312
wtf thats literally my amount

>>7018273
it's fucking over

>>7018268
>>7018273
no dont give up your good algorithms just fucking you over like it does with a lot of good artists

>>7018268
Your art is great but I have zero clue what niche you are catering to, if you even are catering to one. Pick a topic that you like. Let's say that topic is vtubers. Now pick a certain niche within that topic that has appeal and you enjoy as well. Let's say it's feet (bear with me). I forgot his name but there's this one huge artist that exclusively draws high-quality rendered pictures of vtubers where their feet are the main focus of the piece, kek. Every time I see a new drawing, I immediately recognize it's his art. You don't have to do fetish shit, but do something that is memorable and keep doing it. Fanart helps a lot.

The most important part is that you need to build your identity first. What type of artist are you? The one that draws feet coom of vtubers? The one that draws anime girls in historically accurate knight armor? You need to be identifiable by this one trait. That's why people follow artists, to get more shit of the same thing. OC should only be a priority once you've made it. I'd say a good rate is posting 70% fanart and 30% OC. The more followers you gain, the less fanart and the more OC you post. The best of both worlds would be catering to the same niche with BOTH fanart and your OC.

You can do it, anon! I believe in you. 2024 will be the year of the artist!!!

>>7018273
anon that is seriously not bad at all, but you're forgetting the key element when it comes to reaping in clout
first you draw characters that's already popular with the internet (whether from an anime, cartoon, or whatever)
then when you have a decent following, THEN you introduce your oc's

your artstyle is cute, draw some a anime babes, and yes you may have to be suggestive with a lot of them, and just wait

>>7018392
Not that anon - I completely understand the game plan that you listed, and it makes sense. But oh my god does the thought of having to draw someone else's OC make me want to kill myself. I unironically think I'd rather go to a dentist for fillings.

>>7018310
That's really OP?

>>7018399
Probably not, it could just be some rando, but a lot of anons here say they want to pretend to be Japanese to get a following.

>>7018400
>they want to pretend to be Japanese to get a following.
Pretending to be a girl is 100000 times more effective

>>7018398
Anon, i have some cute OC's you could draw, people have drawn them for fun back when.

>>7018330
Asians do like original works in the same way as Westerns do anon. Don't turn everything into western bad japanese good.

>>7018413
What if I told you there are japanese girls?

>>7018273
Do you have instashit?

>>7018397
>op just sell out!

>>7018439
Nta, but throw me a link to that welfare ocs thing
I'm hungry pleas bro

>>7018462
What kind of response you expected from here? Make a portfolio and send it to art directors? Buy ads for your comic? Involve YouTube fag to get visibility?

>>7018325
OP definitely looks very similar to rariato. At this point, he might as well just leech from rariato and draw fanart of one of his characters and post it, because rariato likes and retweets a lot of fanart from his characters judging from personal experience. People who like his stuff would likely enjoy OP's also.

The problem with drawing fanart to gain an audience is that people will follow you only for the fanart and disregard everything else. You run the risk of gaining a following off of shoddy fanart only to turn around and put a lot of effort into original work that will get a few pity interactions from disinterested followers who might acknowledge that the work is good, but can't muster the energy to really care about it. That will demotivate you faster that posting to a small but interested audience will.

You had low followers but good "likes" ratio, i have 36 post 100 followers and 1 like or zero each post :(

>>7018488
This is where I am currently stuck. I started out originally drawing Shantae fanart since the characters were cute, but it rapidly changed and I wanted to do my own stuff in earnest. But of course that's not going to be popular lol. I do not know how some people are able to get their OCs to be popular, I really don't. It genuinely stumps me.

>>7018312
i have fewer than that ;_;

>>7018502
:(

>>7018273
1 follow? HOW? aint no way

>>7018528
they are few but they are very supportive! someone kept checking on me after my house got hit by a hurricane. i love my followers!

>>7018310
>>7018268
not the most amazing art but by no means bad, some pretty sad shit that this is the result of being yourself and putting in effort.
seen a few decent artists with 0 likes on everything, I think there's so much shit out there, ai is raising the bar and it's stamping out anyone that's not exceptional.

>>7018639
It has nothing to do with AI. Social media and the current fractured 'art-sphere' is and has been a hellscape for over a decade.

>>7018671
I meant it's going to get worse with ai

>>7018488
>>7018497
That's why you do it very slowly. It's like planting seeds. Your audience shouldn't even notice that you are increasingly posting more oc content, like they're the unsuspecting frog getting boiled in the pot that starts out cold but gets increasingly more hot.

Also, the most crucial part is that your oc and fanart needs overlap. Shantae fans probably like her because of her attitude, her nice exposed belly and perky tits. Do your ocs have any of those traits? If you're a coom artist that draws coom of badass chicks with huge tits, then your oc also needs to be a badass looking chick with freaking huge tits. If you can give the people more of the same thing, they won't mind it's oc. That's why so many big artists can get away with posting oc frequently, other than because the design of the character simply looks great and appealing in general.

>>7018273
This is not 2010 anymore. You need to draw FoTM anime like Frieren or Bocchi (quick way to gain follower but harder, a bar of good art is higher for those) or a very niche community like Persona or BNHA (easier as the bar for good art is lower but slower follower gain) and add proper hashtag maximum 3, the series name in japanese and english, just search twitter for top result with 10k+ likes and copy it.
That way the algorithm will recommend your art to potential viewer. The algorithm won't know your audience if you only upload OC, this is only viable if you already have a big following from other media or you're an artist of popular game

>>7018273
I have 200+ followers and all I do is retweet porn and pinup art

>>7018918
>very niche
>persona
>boku no pico academy
>very niche

>>7018920
It's been almost a decade since the last persona game.

>>7018340
I like the big head shit

>>7018920
Those series only got one or two fanarts per day now, it doesn't have to be those two as long the fandom still alive but hardly getting any fanarts as opposed to FoTM that can spawn hundreds of fanarts per day

>>7018268
>>7018310
You clearly like to draw your OCs, which is fine, but it will be signifigantly more difficult to get likes/RTs/followers than with fanart. Your art style is nice and recognizable, but one issue I see is that much of your art is just your OC posing against a simple background. It's hard for a viewer not familiar with your series to get excited about it. You could try making pictures more like this one https://twitter.com/nabelhouse/status/1745454395536691301, where you have your OCs but also fill a niche. In other words, rather than making something that says "Look at my OC", try to make something that says "Look at this guy/girl being/doing X" where X is some sort of a niche.

Also, consider using hashtags more. Since you like to draw original art maybe try using some of these at appropriate times:
#冬の創作クラスターフォロー祭り
#絵柄が好みって人にフォローされたい
#ド直球に言いますがフォローしてください
#今月描いた絵を晒そう
#ゴールデンウィークSNS展覧会2024
#三連休はフォロワーさんが増えるらしい
#2024年自分が選ぶ今年上半期の4枚
#一次創作絵師拡散フェス04

>>7018975
>#I want to be followed by people who like my art
Anon if anyone was tagging like this jn English other anons would rightly call him a whiny little bitch. But doing it in Japanese is apparently ok, when two seconds on anyone's profile here will make it obvious they aren't really Japanese?

>>7018989
I only recommended the tags because this guy posts in natural sounding Japanese and is participating in Comitia. Even if he weren't Japanese, his audience certainly is.

>>7018342
>>7018374
this, just have appealing art and you can get anyone to care about your OCs

>>7018268
socialize anon

huh?

>>7018923
Readers added context:
It's been a week since the last Persona game. They make one game per decade and then shit out 100 spinoffs. It's baby's first JRPG and not niche at all

>>7022791
kek'd

>Generate OC
>get 20 bookmarks after 24 hours

>Generate slutty art of random gacha hoe
>100+ bookmarks in a few hours

People who try to get attention on predominantly Asian sites should just stop wasting their time with OC.

Once you make it big, you can probably do some OC stuff and get atleast some interaction.

>be OP
>post random unknown jap artist
>receive a thread full of crits and discussion on how he can improve
>meanwhile jap artist has no idea anons on mongolian strawhat weaving forum are talking about him

>>7018273
Use hashtags and draw fanart for a while, the drawings are not the problem, unless you're posting a wall of text between then.

>>7022791
And it's only been a year since the last skyrim game.

>>7022932
this, posting from a baraag cross-link and saying he has only one follower is already suspicious

>>7018291
1. draw fanart of other artists -> free retweet from big account
2. draw flavor of the week anime -> can get some followers if lucky.chainsaw man is the most popular on twitter i think
3. upload frequently and don't post non-art stuff that clogs up your timeline and media tab.

>>7018268
I have the opposite problem, my first drawing post blew the fuck up and at first I was happy but I'm now being hit with the tsunami of crushing imposter syndrome
Why me when there are so many artists who are way better than me with a not even a fraction of these numbers?
I want to tweet my feelings but I also don't want to come across as a negative nancy when so many artists would kill for a crumb of numbers
Man, I didn't even tryhard the hatching

>>7024838
god damn you losers would be unhappy no matter what happens. Nigga could win the lottery and complain about how people only wanna be your friend/family callin you up for money

>>7024838
use your power for good and retweet my drawings

>>7024861
Nah I'm mostly positive about things but for some reason I've always felt insecure about showing people my drawings, I think its something to do with it being a skill related hobby
>>7024873
If its not coom shit or anything too weird sure. Most of the things I RT are related to the fandom I'm into but if I like it I can RT it tmrw

>>7024891
damn now I feel bad, you actually seem like a chill person, but don't feel bad for your success, you're probably just harder on yourself cause you spend more time looking at your own stuff than anyone else so you can see all the flaws but you'll imrpove

>>7024891
https://twitter.com/Jkun420

you can follow me and i can follow you back and we can be butt buddies if ur cool