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[Anonymous No.1622048]

Draw Thread! It's-ACTUALLY-2014 edition

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[Anonymous No.1622053]

nigger nigger nigger

[Anonymous No.1622058]

>>1622053

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkxjceCFwGY

don't be jelly i got to op the first draw thread of 2014 bitch

[Anonymous No.1622061]

my browser crashes because of youtube links, ty anons

[Anonymous No.1622062]

Can someone please help me...
>>1622050

[Anonymous No.1622094]

Trying to render this to fit the background better, but not going too well.. any tips?

[Anonymous No.1622139]

>>1622062

If you're having trouble with that maybe you rushed through the book a bit too fast? You can find the vanishing point with the top and bottom of the fence and the VP is always on the horizon.

[Anonymous No.1622143]

>>1622139
Yes, but as the fence is pointing downwards with the hill, wouldn't it make the horizon a 'false horizon'?

[Anonymous No.1622145]

>>1622139
The book really doesn't explain a whole lot about the basics of perspective, so I had to check out the Norling's book on perspective.

I have troubles understanding the explanations.

For example, Loomis describes where the 'measuring points' will go on a perspective drawing: "All measuring points of perpendicular planes will fall in a perpendicular line through VP of those planes".

He doesn't explain what the hell M.Ps even are. Furthermore, I don't understand what he means by 'perpendicular planes'.

Please excuse me, but English isn't my first language and I have some troubles with comprehension... thanks...

[Anonymous No.1622182]

>>1622094
I'd fuck that.

[Anonymous No.1622192]

>>1622182
Th... Thank you!

[Anonymous No.1622195]

>>1622094
get rid of that black out line.

compare edges

[Anonymous No.1622224]

>>1622145
Can nobody help?

[Anonymous No.1622237]

>>1621785
>>1621787
>>1621793
>>1621822
Thanks for the feedback! I tried to incorporate all the suggestions.
>>1621840
Sick paintover. Lots of useful color and structure information in there. Thanks!

Figured I might as well post the latest version. Hopefully I fixed more than I messed up. If there's still anything shitty I'd love to hear about it.

[Anonymous No.1622242]

>>1622224
looks like one point perspective

[Anonymous No.1622246]

>>1622048
scary

[KJKallio !m2USbDKaWU No.1622263]

>>1622237
Looking a lot better mate, I still thing you should push up the shapes around her nose and mouth, that area looks really flat right now, get some references?

[Anonymous No.1622292]

>>1622263
Will do!

[Anonymous No.1622294]

[Anata no Okaasan No.1622323]

>tfw they see your dick
i had fun looking like an idiot when imitating the faces.

[Anonymous No.1622372]

>>1622323
You're a fat fuck anon.
With a cute lil tiny girl dick.

[Anonymous No.1622483]

i cant into color guys. please help. pic very related

[Anonymous No.1622485]

>>1622483
try to remember these rules.

yellow forehead, red cheek and nose area, blue chin.

also pic up both of gurneys books anon

[Anonymous No.1622493]

>>1622485
>yellow forehead, red cheek and nose area, blue chin.

Bad, bad advice. The human face isn't a color by numbers book. It depends on the subject, and the environment he's in.

He's in a 'cool' environment, so naturally, the shadows will be cool, and the area of the face with light will be warmer, in logic. Stop thinking in local colors, and instead think how light and color would interact in that situation. It's easier to set up a lightsource and work from there.

[Anonymous No.1622504]

sup d/ic/ks

would really appreciate some input here!
these are the pencils for a spread shot in my comic im working on atm. figures,proportions, etc. arent things i have time to fix right now... but i can change some positioning of the characters... but a general yay or nay would be helpful to me. do you guys think this pic is working?

[Anonymous No.1622522]

Is it easy to make money by drawing smut?

[Anonymous No.1622529]

>>1622522
Draw fetish porn.
"Which one?" You ask? Any!
The My Little Ponies are in a craze right now. A lot of faps going about.

[Anonymous No.1622533]

The character's modeled off a slice of red velvet cake. She's more competent than she looks.

[Anonymous No.1622540]

>>1622533
It seems like the lumps are all sort of arbitrary, maybe try drawing her naked to understand her body better. Both the outfits are really nice looking, though I don't really know about the trim being fluffy on both of them. It kinda makes it look Christmass-y, which is nice on the winter one but not so much the normal. Overall a nice concept!

[Anonymous No.1622550]

>>1622540

>draw her naked

I don't know if /ic/'s ready to see that without blacking out from revulsion, haha. Good to see I have something with the character, though.

[Anonymous No.1622552]

I don't know what I'm doing. I feel like I'm on the right track but I'm fucking a lot of shit up, I know that.

Redline?

[Anonymous No.1622563]

something P.Morhbacher inspired.Not sure if I have my values down right tho.

[Anonymous No.1622568]

>>1622552
don't mind me, i'm no artist... but do you use like basic sketches to mark where the head, eyes, body, torso, ect. will be? Sorry for the awful way of explaining

[Anonymous No.1622570]

>>1622552
You're on the right track, but don't be scared of drawing the damn hands and head.

[Anonymous No.1622634]

From reference. Something looks really uncanny about this, so I started some light rendering to cheer me up, but I still can't figure out what it is. Besides the lack of eyes, of course. Should I scrap it and start over?

[Anonymous No.1622637]

>>1622634
pretend I didn't post a giant picture

[Anonymous No.1622640]

trying to warm up with some sketches

[alwayson/ic/ No.1622643]

>>1622637
>>1622634

i would stick to value. it's challenging enough without you having to worry about color

+ it's clearly too early for that anyway.

[Anonymous No.1622647]

Exploring some Beksiński inspired work, always felt my own has been very dull and uninspired.

[Anonymous No.1622664]

>>1622640

[Anonymous No.1622668]

>>1622643
I love you anon. Not where I want it but much better

[KJKallio !m2USbDKaWU No.1622670]

Made it bit less generic. Blocking it in.

[Anonymous No.1622671]

What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.1622672]

>>1622670
glad to see you working again ;3

[Anonymous No.1622683]

>>1622671
being too sloppy with your edge control.

[Anonymous No.1622684]

I was having too much fun with it.

[Anonymous No.1622688]

>>1622683
not that anon, but what exactly does edge control mean? i've been thinking about this recently, but does it just mean being aware of your soft and hard edges?

[Anonymous No.1622693]

>>1622688
basically

the hard part is doing it right

[Anonymous No.1622698]

>>1622485
isnt that what i did ?

[Anonymous No.1622700]

newfag with child markers

[Anonymous No.1622730]

[Anonymous No.1622754]

[Anonymous No.1622760]

>>1622754

[Anonymous No.1622762]

>>1622760

Why do you keep doing that? It's scaring me now

[Anonymous No.1622764]

>>1622762
he's probably jelous, bitter people tend to do that kind of weird things

[Anonymous No.1622784]

FLOAT, issue #1

[Anonymous No.1622791]

Sorry for the awful photo, I'll scan them all as soon as I get the opportunity.

[Anonymous No.1622793]

>>1622670
very nice.

Here is another try at color

[Anonymous No.1622809]

[Anonymous No.1622810]

[Anonymous No.1622811]

[Anonymous No.1622820]

Learn with Loomis, they said...

I tried. But his sketches, they were asking for it.

[Anonymous No.1622830]

>>1622820

hahahaha

[Anonymous No.1622833]

>>1622820
Anyone else finds that doing Vilppu and Hampton is more enjoyable, and flows better and easier? I tried doing Loomis, really, but it just doesn't click yet. Maybe I'll try later, after I finish Vlippu and Hampton DVD courses I torrented. What can I say, I'm a poor asshole.

[Anonymous No.1622834]

>>1622833

This 100% percent for me

[Anonymous No.1622835]

I done fucked up. I accidentally did something and the thing on the right changed to this. How do I get it back to normal? I don't even know what changed, but something did.

[Anonymous No.1622845]

>>1622835
Why don;t you start with not doing shit boring poses.

[Anonymous No.1622848]

Working on this. Relatively new to digital painting and only just got my own kit for it.

Any and all input, feedback and critique graciously accepted.

[ALWAYSon/ic/ No.1622849]

>>1622835

>using RGB instead of HSV
>at your skill level

[Anonymous No.1622850]

>>1622848
Are you basing the gun off of something, 'cause it's looking whack.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1622852]

>>1622833
agreed, haven't checked out hapton yet though. could you give me a link?

[Anonymous No.1622854]

I don't know if you're going to add a backdrop to that figure, but the advice I'm about to give is relative to what that backdrop will be. I feel like the figure is entirely mid-range values right now, it might help to add some more pronounced shadows. Also, I don't at all agree with those colors, mainly the glowing fuschia between the blue plates.

[Anonymous No.1622856]

>>1622845
>>1622849
I'm just trying to get used to PS, so I'd rather stay in my comfort-zone for now. Now tell me how I get that floating thing on the right to not float.

[Anonymous No.1622859]

>>1622852
Sure, let me spoonfeed you.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=micheal+hampton+torrent

Alternatly, go to ukbay.org, use a proxy, type in analytical figure drawing.

Dude, srsly, googling ain't that hard.

[Anonymous No.1622858]

>>1622849
RGB is great for learning how light works.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1622867]

>>1622859
You see I was missing some very important information from your original post. I didn't know his first name or the name, googling hampton wouldn't have yielded relevant results would it?

Thank you, but you need to work on them social skills boy.

[Anonymous No.1622894]

>>1622683
How about now?

[Anonymous No.1622907]

>>1622793
continuing color practice. this time with ref

[Anonymous No.1622910]

about 20 or 25 minutes, from life :D

[Anonymous No.1622911]

>>1622907
take this and compare the skin tones, why from ref its more or less lively, and from imagination its plastic

[Anonymous No.1622913]

>>1622850
No, but it's just a placeholder. Lots of work to do.

>>1622854
The pink bits will be toned down and turned into gooey organics on the finished product. Point taken about the value range though, I'm trying to sort that out at the moment.

[Anonymous No.1622914]

>>1622911
yeah im trying :/ more red and more saturation, but im sure there is more

[Anonymous No.1622925]

>>1622907

if I see that giraffe bitch one more time

[ALWAYSon/ic/ No.1622927]

>>1622910

might wanna call 911

bitch ain't looking too healthy

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1622938]

>>1622914
it's not that simple, think about where the tonal and hue shifts are happening and why, it's not really as simple as 'more red' you also have to take into account how skin reflects light.

[Anonymous No.1622971]

>>1622910
Wow you couldn't even bother painting the back of her head but you found time to outline her cunt. Real classy you gross weiner (we get it already, you had sex, good for you!)

[Anonymous No.1622989]

[Anonymous No.1622991]

>>1622971
I did paint the back of her head, it was barely visible though, you can see her hair at a bit by her shoulder. And yeah, I'm a disgusting pervert, get over it.

[Anonymous No.1622994]

>>1622991
So take your hands off your dick and start learning how to paint, it's embarrassing what a poorly done cheap at saying you had sex this is. You could at least put some effort into making your girlfriend look nice and not like a finger painting of a real doll.

[Anonymous No.1622999]

>>1622994
>tfw no gf because because autism
>tfw my skills are everything I have

[Anonymous No.1623003]

>>1622989
I love it.

[Anonymous No.1623005]

>>1622999
>tfw your gf is a real doll
>tfw you don't even have skills

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1623013]

>>1622989
I like it but it lacks depth, it's a bit pillowshady.

[Anonymous No.1623016]

[Anonymous No.1623017]

>>1622809

very egon schiele, I like it

[Anonymous No.1623026]

>>1623005
>tfw I was not that guy
>tfw I was talking about myself

[Anonymous No.1623067]

been working on this, gonna retouch some things in Photoshop and hopefully finish this one

[Anonymous No.1623094]

New to color...

[Anonymous No.1623100]

>>1623094
good thing your picture is mostly black and white then

[Anonymous No.1623116]

>>1623067
lol

[Anonymous No.1623117]

>>1623116
noticed that halfway through the drawing and just decided to leave it and fix it later in photoshop

[Anonymous No.1623119]

first painting of 2014

[Anonymous No.1623120]

>>1623119
who?

[Anonymous No.1623122]

>>1623119
Cool. I should get around to checking out Tolkien's stuff.

[Anonymous No.1623125]

>>1623119
MFW didn't even realize new years came and gone. < Artist life

[Anonymous No.1623131]

>>1623120
?

[Anonymous No.1623134]

>>1623131
whom is the artist?

[Anonymous No.1623137]

>>1623134
anonymous

[Anonymous No.1623143]

>>1623125
That happens when you don`t have a life or friends.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1623141]

>>1623119
Nice, I don't like the composition much though, that diagonal is too dominant imo and certain areas don't read well (like the neck, and it took me a while to realise where he left wing was). Really nice stuff though otherwise.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1623146]

>>1623134
who*

[Anonymous No.1623151]

>>1622938
>>1622793
>>1622907
thanks. here is a portrait without any ref. played a bit with the levels at the end so kinda cheat but still i think i learned a lot today

same program tomorrow

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1623155]

>>1623151
>played a bit with the levels at the end so kinda cheat
Not really anything wrong with that as long as you don't rely on it as a crutch, I often play around with levels and colour balance when I come close to finishing something too. This one looks a lot better than your last one without a ref, keep it up. word of advice though, don't get too caught up with portraits, I wasted about 2 years doing that.

[Anonymous No.1623161]

>>1623143
TFW no friends all dead in prison or away at some fancy college.

TFW no life because no money.

[Anonymous No.1623162]

>>1623155
thanks a lot. I figured that portraits was a quick way to practice colors.

so what you mean is to keep a variety in the studies/work that i do ?

[Anonymous No.1623164]

>>1622994
Lol you sound really jelly. I already have done nicer paintings of her and portraits and such, this was just a super quick sketch of her bum for fun, because I enjoyed the dull greyish soft light coming into my room through my blinds and I enjoy her bum. I didn't do the painting as a way of showing off, I wasn't even going to post it online, but decided to for the hell of it, and put it up here instead of on a site where my name/her name is attached to it.

[Anonymous No.1623165]

>>1623146
Heretic you are a faggot you like to comment on everyones shit but you never post your own art.

which is fine just take off the name.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1623168]

>>1623165
I know I have been posting a lot without posting work lately but that's because I've been doing a lot of disposable perspective and gesture stuff. I will post some of that if that would make you happy but anyone can find my work and I do post from time to time so it's not like I am trying to hide my skill level or anything. I have the name because I feel like in an environment like this it's good to be able to identify who you are discussing with. anonymity has no value here imo, I post anonymously everywhere else.
>>1623162
Yes, you will find that if you continue just doing portraits all the time you will get very good at painting faces of all kinds and the nuances of colour and tone in the face, but colour has a lot to do with lighting and texture and there are only so many lighting and textures that you can capture in a portrait you are limiting yourself severely.

[Anonymous No.1623170]

>>1623168
thanks ! ill keep that in mind

[Anonymous No.1623175]

Finished that drawing that I've posted the other day.

[Anonymous No.1623179]

Thumbnail of an idea what think /ic/?

[Anonymous No.1623181]

>>1623119
pretty much this
>>1623141

I had no idea what was going on with the under the neck stuff until that anon said the wing.

[Anonymous No.1623184]

>>1623179
Looks alright I would suggest watching out for tangents with the legs on the left side.

Now I may be wrong, but I think to darker legs are too dark and draw more attention then they should.

[Anonymous No.1623188]

>>1623179
Interesting lighting, but the cropping is a bit awkward. Everything is contained just barely within the frame--all the legs touch the border of the image, and everything is contained. I would have more elements that extend out of the frame boldly or something, or add more space in some direction, I dunno, mix it up. The pose could maybe be more interesting too, like all the spider legs are just standing there.

[Anonymous No.1623233]

hey guys, how can i draw the feets so they look on the same ground plane ? Im having a real hard time with this

thanks

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1623241]

>>1623233
learn perspective and form.

[Anonymous No.1623240]

So I think I'm a decent line artist.
>opinion

I'm not great at blending my Coptic markers though. Anyone have experience with them willing to give me advice on how to move forward with pic related?

[Anonymous No.1623243]

>>1623224
Left mouse, right tablet is my guess.

[Anonymous No.1623244]

>>1623240
>that picture

Every draw thread until forever.

[Anonymous No.1623247]

>>1623119
what does it feel like to know how to art?

[Anonymous No.1623250]

[Anonymous No.1623255]

>>1622989
did you copy paste the mouth?

[Anonymous No.1623257]

>>1623240
E00 and R00 for base layer
YR00 And E50 for your middle spectrum
Can go many different shades after that.

Middle of E 30's and using R20 and R02 For blush and highlights.

Can always cool grays #s for shadowing in an area.

>>1623244
Never seen this posted before, wat.

Anyways practice on a different sheet cause if youre using actual copic brand paper, it wont take alot of ink before the paper is full and youll just push your colors around.

Get the right amount of each ink on paper on a scratch sheet before laying it all down on your final draft there.

The plus side, Copic brand marker paper is pretty much the best,but it is very unforgiving if you use too much.

Hope this helps!

[Anonymous No.1623267]

hey guys quick question. Im watching a video on color. he takes pics related as exemple to show what all these colors have the same values in color. So he desaturates it and gets this plain grey rectangle.

However when i do the same thing and desaturate in photoshop, i see all kind of different values and still see the circle.. why ?

thanks

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1623268]

>>1623267
if that's happening then obviously the colours are different value, or you're not just desaturating them. It could also be some weird colour mode but I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.1623278]

sorta shitty try at lips, second attempt with my first graphics tablet. I can never capture lips in a realistic way. i think i need to start by removing defined black outlines. What else should i try for better lips?

[Anonymous No.1623279]

>>1623267
what method are you using to desaturate it?

[Anonymous No.1623294]

>>1623240
>So I think I'm a decent line artist.
you're a shit artist, though.

who gives a shit about line, line is overrated, as long of your not chicken scratching you shouldn't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.1623295]

>>1623250

[Anonymous No.1623310]

I haven't done many things like this, any obvious mistakes I've made so far? I haven't spent much time on it so far.

[Anonymous No.1623321]

>>1623257

I knew I wasn't crazy. This was posted in the anime thread in July and I quote, "About to drop the ink on this." Sorry, I guess it wasn't the draw thread.

[Anonymous No.1623324]

>>1623294
>shit artist
Lol not nearly as shit as 99% of the artists on here and probably one of the best among the anime fags

[Anonymous No.1623343]

(cant delete other post, my bad anons,lesson learned though!) like I said in my previous post, I enjoy robots so I drew one.

can I get a quick critique on my skills? thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.1623472]

more pencils for >>1622504
would love some crit, comments. am trying to mess with positioning/sizing of buildings.
thx

[KJKallio !m2USbDKaWU No.1623487]

>>1623343
It looks promising, great idea! Some issues were found mostly with the pose, see redline. Id suggest you think the legs over again, now they look very awkward, its hard to tell if she is running or just wobbling around.

[KJKallio !m2USbDKaWU No.1623491]

>>1623472
Looking great, nothing to critique really. Id add some clouds to further push the composition and perspective. Also some taller buildings rising from the horizon

[Anonymous No.1623494]

[Anonymous No.1623496]

>>1623494
Really like the rendering but the eyes seem rather off, a little high up and too far apart.

[Anonymous No.1623498]

>>1623494
those are some serious platform sneakers

[Anonymous No.1623499]

>>1623494
The whole face is off.

[Anonymous No.1623500]

>>1623343
What is it doing?

[Anonymous No.1623502]

>>1623499
>>1623496
yea I think so too. the face structure just seems impossible at this time. perhaps next one should be faces

[Anonymous No.1623510]

sketch

[Anonymous No.1623517]

>>1623487
well, yes it does look stiff because its a robot, however I do see your point. that was intentional although some details like the arms and the head positioning could actually use some work.

sometimes the most basic things truly do work wonders, I totally forgot to mirror! now I can see the mistakes bright as day.

thanks anon! (I will update tomorrow)

[Anonymous No.1623519]

>>1623500
its supposed to be a rapid prototyping robot. you know its like a play on the whole 3d printer thing.

I wanted it to have a floatie feel to it, while its "walking" and calibrating to print some random object.

[Anonymous No.1623520]

>>1623517
>anon

[ALWAYSbrowsing/ic/ No.1623524]

[Anonymous No.1623523]

>>1623520
?

[Anonymous No.1623525]

>>1623523
you could at least say "thanks Kallio" or something like that

[Anonymous No.1623529]

>>1623524
You should probably fix the reflection of the clouds on the surface of the water

[Anonymous No.1623532]

>>1623525
Thank you KJKallio. (Lesson learned, I am fucking noob )

[Anonymous No.1623534]

>>1623524
there is some flatness in there, you should definitely break that horizon line up somewhere or vary the edges.
same with the sky reflected on the grass.
you need to move it closer and give it some shape and variation.

[ALWAYSbrowsing/ic/ No.1623537]

>>1623534

yeah yeah there's definitely gonna be alot more going on. i just doodled all that shit in there to kinda communicate the direction i was going. the composition is absolutely abyssmal atm.

but the idea is "bunch of tribesmen sneak up on alien looking creatures during sunset"

>>1623529

will definitely do that.

[Anonymous No.1623562]

>>1623537
also your perspective is bad.
that thingy in the far distance is standing below the HL, but that bigger one on the left is almost standing ON the HL.

[Anonymous No.1623564]

trying to force things out of my head in a way that felt aesthetic/therapeutic so I wouldn't erase it immediately or move on. I think I found a way. It feels like i'm sketching lumps of fat/skin into a form.

[Anonymous No.1623565]

>>1623564

also sorry it's fucking huge but I didn't realize I was at 75%

[KJKallio !m2USbDKaWU No.1623567]

>>1623532
You are most welcome.

>stiff because its a robot
Even if its a robot it doesnt automatically mean it has to be stiff. Since you obviously made her humanoid shaped robot that follows the basic structure somewhat, you might as well make her behave and move like a human.

[Anonymous No.1623621]

>>1623564
I like the look of it, but i'm too much of a newbie to help you.

I really like the rhino-thingie pose.

Here is mine finished and polished, still miss some training.

[Anonymous No.1623651]

>>1623279
ctl shift u

[Anonymous No.1623659]

>>1623255
....No? What's that supposed to mean?

[Anonymous No.1623691]

taking a break from this, been working all day

anything glaringly wrong?

[Anonymous No.1623741]

Doing some fan art for the binding of Isaac,
I probably made him five years younger than what he's supposed to be though..

[Anonymous No.1623746]

>>1623691
at first i thought the arms seemed really short, but then i noticed the upper arm was probably forshortened. if it is, make that clearer by emphasizing overlaps

[Anonymous No.1623749]

>>1623741
Didn't realize it was Isaac until I read what you wrote. It might be a little more obvious once it's painted with a similar color palette to the game. Maybe consider making him bald or incorporating tears if you want it recognizable before reading the title.

[KJKallio !m2USbDKaWU No.1623780]

>>1623151
You need to learn a lot of basics. First off, the facial construction and anatomy are way off, I really suggest getting a reference for this one (you should paint first from imagination then get a reference if something wont work). Values and edgework need more control to them. Also with color, skin tones look very muddy and boring right now. I suggest putting her into a colder environment to push out the redness of her lips and cheeks. Use less extreme contrasts like you have done with the eyes. When painting hair, dont pick out random single strands of hair like that, they stand out way too much from the rest of the hair. Also when you use your brushes, try to keep the flow and direction of the strokes going across the form not around it. Ive added you a picture to clarify this, hope this helps and dont get put down by this.Good luck!

[Anonymous No.1623787]

>>1623749
Thank for your feed back, I'll try to make the tears stand out, but as for now I'm really bad with wet surfaces.. Well, good reason to practice!

I might include some other clues from the game as well.

At the moment it's coming along more like a tormented baby Jesus..

[Anonymous No.1623789]

>>1623564
delightful!

[Anonymous No.1623798]

sorry for the newbe question but...
now how do i get some color in?
>extra points for fast reply

[Anonymous No.1623799]

>>1623798

Layer blending modes

[Anonymous No.1623800]

Anyone see something wrong with the lines before I color? It's my first time lapping the arms over the chest.

[Anonymous No.1623802]

>>1623798
Duplicate layer, set new layer to multiply, paint original background layer white, color beneath multiply layer.

[Anonymous No.1623804]

>>1623799
midoingthisright?
seems like a fast way to do it, but the whites aren't what they used to be. Is there a way to keep the highlights desaturated?

[KJKallio !m2USbDKaWU No.1623808]

>>1623799
Bad advice. Dont use blending modes, they make the colors look flat and muddy so easily. Also once you get used to them, painting straight with color will be much more difficult. I suggest just to turn down the layer opacity and just paint over it with color like you normally do, that way you will learn much more.

[Anonymous No.1623807]

>>1623278

[Anonymous No.1623814]

>>1623804
following layer modes are well suited for this task:

-overlay
-color
-"color balance" adjustment layer
-a gradient map

>>1623808
this guy knows what he's talking about, good advice

[Anonymous No.1623817]

>>1623782
>>1623783
Please help.
Any tips for using tablet?

[KJKallio !m2USbDKaWU No.1623824]

>>1623804
>>1623808
Dont get me wrong though, using blending modes can be a very effective tool at adjusting small changes when used right.

[Anonymous No.1623828]

>>1623800
I like the overall design, but I'm a bit unsure of the emotion she's expressing. She seems to lazy or even goofy, rather that ready to fight or intimidating. Not sure what kind of feel you were going for though..

[Anonymous No.1623831]

Generic dragon sketch

[Anonymous No.1623832]

>>1623828
I was trying to give her an intimidating look, but half-assed it. Thanks for the feedback, I'll work on it more.

[Anonymous No.1623835]

[Anonymous No.1623845]

having a really hard time with this angle...
its supposed to be a bull/rhino/triceratops thing.

[Anonymous No.1623847]

>>1623814
>>1623808
thank you
i'm using a combination of all of it now

[Anonymous No.1623850]

>>1623832
Ok, if you want to make her more intimidating I would suggest relaxing the shoulders and pulling them back, as tensed shoulders express insecurity. I think you did the hands really beautifully, but they might need some more flexing, also angle the grip and the guns about 45 degrees higher, for a more braced look. I would also make her cock her chin up slightly and make her look down her nose to further underline her superiority, or you could go for the lowered eyes predator look..

These are just some thoughts from the top of my head though, you've done well so far, even though you didn't quite channel the feeling you were going for, so feel free to disregard it all if it doesn't suit your vision:)

[Anonymous No.1623855]

>>1622647
The middle one is really cool but the composition kind of kills it.

[Anonymous No.1623858]

>>1622684

made another one.

trying to make studies more interesting.

[Anonymous No.1623864]

[Anonymous No.1623871]

>>1623858
what brush is it?

[Anonymous No.1623876]

>>1623845
Not too familiar with the walk cycles of any of those animals, but it seems strange that the back left leg is coming towards the viewer. It's bending medially instead of staying parallel with the axis of symmetry.

[Anonymous No.1623877]

>>1623845
>>1623876
Oh, and the tail isn't along the axis of symmetry either.

[ALWAYSbrowsing/ic/ No.1623886]

>>1623871

>wot brash dat bee

you are an embarassment to /ic/ university. turn in your library card and off you go

[Anonymous No.1623911]

>>1623847

If this will help you by any means. If not, ignore it :)

[Anonymous No.1623915]

>ctrl + z doesn't work in real life

[Anonymous No.1623925]

I've been using ctrl+alt+z my whole life, what the hell.

[Anonymous No.1623944]

I've got tunnel vision, is anything glaringly wrong at this stage?

[Anonymous No.1623947]

>>1623944

[Anonymous No.1623948]

>>1623886
nope, I won't. carry on anon.

[Anonymous No.1623950]

[Anonymous No.1623953]

>>1623947
>You sure showed me.

It's a WIP, I'm looking for specific criticism.

[Anonymous No.1623981]

>>1623950

[Anonymous No.1624008]

Man fuck Loomis seriously
The way he's explaining things makes me sicks.

[Anonymous No.1624010]

>>1623911
nice brushwork!
thank you!

[Anonymous No.1624024]

>>1624008
i could never sit through more than a page of his stuff

and his diagrams are bleh

[Anonymous No.1624026]

>>1624008
oh god my sides
>>1624024
Then what do you recommend? I just started reading 'Figure drawings for all it's worth'. I don't think it's too late to switch course to a different book.

[Anonymous No.1624032]

Anyone have brush recommendations? I can't paint shit with what I have now.

[Anonymous No.1624033]

>>1624026
vilppu

[Anonymous No.1624034]

[FiRez !!tndrCZJHE+I No.1624036]

Done with this one.

[Anonymous No.1624038]

>>1624032
if you cant paint with a round brush textured brushes are just going to hurt you

>>1624026
I tried to defend some books in ollys stream before and some people just shot me down and said live models are the only way to go and anatomy books are the devils work. I'd be afraid to recommend any books considering I'm a pretty shitty artist, so I'd just go with their advice and use live models. If you're attractive and not socially retarded like me I assume having a gf would be a really good way to go because you'd be able to feel up all the muscle groups and stuff and maybe use some anatomy books to find stuff.

[Anonymous No.1624039]

what do you guys think of this thing my friend drew in ms paint with his mouse
no sarcastic/condescending replies please

[Anonymous No.1624040]

>>1624039
>my friend

yea sure

your "friend" should get a tablet, and find some subject matter you enjoy and draw it

there really isn't anyway to critique that

[Anonymous No.1624044]

commission.

[Anonymous No.1624047]

>>1624039
i guess it's not too bad for mspaint with a mouse... you're friend could probably make something decent with a tablet. tell you friend that if he want to pursue digital art he needs one because without he will develop carpal tunnel syndrome

[Anonymous No.1624049]

>>1624044
You need more contrast/values.

It's really dark right now.

[Anonymous No.1624058]

>>1624038
>I tried to defend some books in ollys stream before and some people just shot me down and said live models are the only way to go and anatomy books are the devils work

All anatomy books are intended as a supplement, not replacement, for life drawing. Anyone who argued against them missed the point.

[Anonymous No.1624060]

>>1624049
I allways seem to have this problem.
Could you go in more detail how to fix it?

[Anonymous No.1624061]

>>1624060
Thumbnails first. Establish your big value shapes and make sure everything is readable. Then enlarge and refine, taking care not to destroy those original value shapes.

[Anonymous No.1624067]

heeeeeeeeelp

[Anonymous No.1624068]

>>1624060
Allright, thanks!

[Anonymous No.1624069]

Composition/lighting is kind of funky, don't know how to fix it. Also general criticism would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.1624070]

>>1624067
1. Make sure proportions and shapes are accurate. Use negative space, check what's aligned horizontally and vertically, compare distances and lengths, etc.

2. Make sure your values are correct. Remember that the overall value statement is much more important than the minor details. Think of the spherical/box form that is the gross simplification of the head, and push that shape with your values above everything else. You may also find it helpful (and useful) to think of which planes are facing the light source, and by how much.

3. Try squinting. You can eliminate detail that you shouldn't be worried about in the early stages of the painting. This also makes it easier to see the big shapes.

[Anonymous No.1624074]

>>1623944
Pushed it farther, mostly I'm having trouble with he values of the black hair against the silhouette of the ghouls behind, if I could get help with that I would be grateful

[Anonymous No.1624076]

>>1624069
You have no true darks or true lights. Composition is weak because you have few interesting shapes, and you aren't quite telling a story.

Best advice for the future would be to do several thumbnails before committing to anything. Try out different shapes, different value placements, different poses, different vantage points, different lighting conditions, different points in time, different concepts, etc. Flesh out the one that's best, not the one that's first.

More on thumbnailing:
http://pastebin.com/fZM8NdBr

In the future, if you feel your composition isn't working, fix it immediately, start over, or scrap it altogether. Composition shouldn't be compromised just because you already invested time painting something.

[Anonymous No.1624079]

>>1623119
Do you have a link somewhere to your work?

[Anonymous No.1624080]

>>1624034
Painted this for fun - hope you don't mind. I don't know if there's any useful information in there, as there are plenty of mistakes.

A few points for your drawing:
Proportions could use some work. Nose is a bit long, mouth a bit low, and the jaw isn't quite the right shape. I suspect we should see some of the other ear from this angle. Eyebrows are asymmetrical, and the eyes are poorly defined (not that mine are much better).

[Anonymous No.1624082]

>>1624076
Thanks a lot. I've never really done anything like this so that all really helped. Would it help if I adjusted the position of the figure out of the way of the window a little? Or should I just start over?

[Anonymous No.1624084]

>>1624069

as other anon said - thumbnails are your friend.

[Anonymous No.1624083]

>>1622668

[Anonymous No.1624092]

>>1624080
thnx for the pointers.... i like your improved version... i wanna learn to paint in a similar fashion. know of any decent starting tutorials?

[Anonymous No.1624094]

>>1624074

and one for you :)

>4am
>tons of studies & paintovers for today

good night :)

[Anonymous No.1624095]

>>1624094
dp you have a gallery?

[Anonymous No.1624097]

>>1624094
thanks, gave me some ideas

[Anonymous No.1624104]

Just finished this for coloring practice. I have trouble with backgrounds in general. You guys are leagues better, so I'm hoping for some help.

[Anonymous No.1624108]

>>1624092
There are a few general pointers:
-Strong value separation and value massing
-Large brush strokes and focus on planes - work general to specific
-Paint as opaquely as possible, and refine later - try to lay down the correct color/value with one stroke instead of many
-Learn the 'rules' for edges, when they should be hard and when they should be soft (and to what degree)
-Gain some experience painting traditionally (oils and acrylics) - try to approach digital media as if it were the traditional counterpart you're emulating

There are some nice demos here:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107217

Lots of great paintovers here with accompanying notes:
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=265541

Plenty of good material here:
http://ctrlpaint.com/library/

Always a good general resource:
http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

[blade !QmUNigOZGc No.1624109]

>>1622048
yo

[Anonymous No.1624119]

Does anyone know about DIY silk screening? I have a YuDu which is really gay and small. I just finished this and was hoping it wouldn't be too intricate to work through the emulsion or whatever, or should i just get it done somewhere? I really want to put it on the back of a jacket i already have though... anyway, what do you think about the thing itself?

[Anonymous No.1624126]

having some problems with the rocks in the front, also does the chain look ok?

[Anonymous No.1624137]

>>1624069
>>1624076
Is this any better?

>>1624084
Thanks, these helped.

[Anonymous No.1624138]

>>1624119
That skull is sick. Snake is alright - a bit flat but it still works. I really dislike the daggers though. It has vastly inferior line quality compared to the rest.

[Anonymous No.1624141]

>>1624126
Very interesting. Chain should probably have more breathing room between links.

Is the boat intended to be graffiti on a wall with a tunnel, or is intentionally surreal?

[Anonymous No.1624142]

>>1624137
It's an improvement, but it's still not the best it can be. The figure takes up too little room for no apparent reason (nothing of interest in the rest of the piece). The wall is also too uniform. Study the thumbnails that anon did, as he provided good solutions to both those problems.

[Anonymous No.1624144]

>>1624141
thanks, going for more surreal look

[Anonymous No.1624145]

>>1624137
the values still seem a bit off, try pushing different value groups to separate the person and the bg

[Anonymous No.1624147]

>>1624144
Awesome. Be sure to post the final.

For the rocks, I'd look into photorefs, or the work of strong landscape painters. There was a good one by Ruan Jia posted a little bit ago >>1623830

[Anonymous No.1624204]

>>1623491
good suggestion anon. will do.

[Anonymous No.1624231]

Not really a drawing, but it's what I've been working on for the last few hours instead of completing my Physiology assignment...

I feel like it looks off in this image, but if it looks off in a photograph that's usually a sign that somethings wrong with it IRL.

Anyway, it's going to be called Battered Unicorn-Wife Syndrome.

Critique would be greatly appreciated.

[ALWAYSbrowsing/ic/ No.1624236]

>>1624231

i like it so far. don't think that there has to be something wrong with it if it looks wrong in a photo. i bet you took that picture with a cellphone, which horribly distorts images.

what material is that? wondering how you keep the massive head stable with such a tiny neck

[Anonymous No.1624237]

>>1624236

Thank you very much! And yes it is a cellphone photo.

The material used is Super Sculpey in terracotta, and whilst the head is quite heavy, the internal part of the sculpey is mostly comprised of a chicken wire frame stuffed with a large ball of tin foil and then wrapped again in tin foil (insulating so when I go to bake the sculpture it cooks from the inside).
The neck is just some more chicken wire twisting together and embedded in the wooden plinth you can see the sculpture sitting on.

[Anonymous No.1624242]

>>1624231
I love it! Really adore the way you did the eyes, especially the swollen one, and her lips!

[Anonymous No.1624243]

Thinking of calling this done about now.. All thoughts/critique are warmly welcome!

(I tried to make little droplets of tears in his eyes, but not sure if they read as such though, any tips?)

[Anonymous No.1624249]

>>1624243
Nice job overall. Not sure about the legs, the calf seems a bit "shapely" and the thigh not fat enough for a baby. Yeah, I think the tears read pretty well.

[Anonymous No.1624258]

>>1624249
Thank you for the feed back! Good thing the tears read ok:) I agree that the shape of his lower legs might be a bit exaggerated, he's supposed to be visually around four though, so not sure how much flesh he would be needing, maybe for his age I added too much?

[Anonymous No.1624265]

>>1624243

Only thing I would change is making the leg a bit plumper like so.

[Anonymous No.1624272]

baby jesus whtie lol

[Anonymous No.1624284]

>>1624265
Good call:) I'm cleaning it up a bit more and will plum up his thighs a bit)

[Anonymous No.1624288]

>>1624284
Only some minor changes and polishing, redid the thighs like you suggested, and like it a lot more!

[Anonymous No.1624289]

>>1624288
lovely now make his hair brown

[Anonymous No.1624292]

dude chill with the updates.Don't become a turbofaggot like Firez to post every brush stroke you lay down...this is a place for crits not art director guidance/positive affirmation 101.Insecurity is for /soc/

[Anonymous No.1624293]

>>1624292
this

[Anonymous No.1624294]

>>1624289
Thank you, but it's not baby Jesus! It's supposed to be Isaac, from the game the binding of Isaac, and he's either platinum, or bald, according to some.

[Anonymous No.1624296]

>>1624292
I agree that I've been a bit heavy in the updates, I'll try to work on that.

[Anonymous No.1624301]

>>1624126
this is very interesting.

The gap between chain and the rock below it is too similar in width of that of a chain.

Ship's front spike is just touching the edge on the image, which creates unnecessary pressure/attention.

[Anonymous No.1624302]

>>1624104
it doesn't feel that you're in control of the picture.

[Anonymous No.1624304]

>>1623911
what brushpack are you using,
you add grain + sharpen?

[Anonymous No.1624307]

Started to doodle the proportions of an original character I have, and I wound up painting a model I might use as a basis for her appearance. I need to fix the construction of her head, that's why I cropped it out, but I'd like criticism on the face.

I don't plan on making this character look exactly like this model, but I can't decide on her appearance. I was originally going to make her Puerto Rican or Dominican, but I'm awfully inspired by this girl, who is Argentinian. Perhaps I could make her have features of both ethnicities? Drawing races can be really difficult though. Curious if anyone has any advice for that.

[Anonymous No.1624308]

>>1624119
I love it, I love the skull, and I think the snake works really well too. The only thing is, once to other anon pointed out the daggers they kind of bother me too. The design is a bid tacky in my opinion, and the execution not as good as the rest of the picture.

But overall very good, and the composition works well.

[Anonymous No.1624313]

>>1622237
looks like she could count to potato but whatevs nobody looks perfect anyway.

[Anonymous No.1624317]

>>1624313
Are you saying my paintings bad or the girls ugly? Cause she's pretty damn fine, yo.

[Anonymous No.1624319]

>>1624288
Why is this making me so sad ;_;

[Anonymous No.1624321]

>>1623855
Thanks, got any suggestions for the comp? I'm considering taking that one further.

Here's some more lunchtime images. Let me know what you think.

[Anonymous No.1624332]

Doodlan.

[Anonymous No.1624344]

>>1624317

>suicide girl

Any merit that girl may have had is gone now.

[Anonymous No.1624345]

>>1624288

Ohhh it looks great! And I am an enormous fan of Isaac so it's always great to see talented and unique fanart!

[Anonymous No.1624346]

>>1624126

I did paintover, i like the idea

[Anonymous No.1624347]

>>1624346

forgot the image..

[Anonymous No.1624348]

>>1624294
i don't remember him having hair. alternate skin or character or something?

[Anonymous No.1624366]

>>1624044

values

[Anonymous No.1624382]

>>1624313
>>1624317
Haha, wow, I thought this was replying to >>1624307 sorry I'm retarded. Staying up til 6 drawing and then posting on /ic/ is a bad combonation.

[Anonymous No.1624383]

i am tierd

[Anonymous No.1624385]

First attempt to draw without reference. I have a feeling that I broke several parts of her body > <

[Anonymous No.1624386]

>>1624307
She's fucking lovely for a Jewish-looking chick.

[Anonymous No.1624390]

>>1624383
Really? How many tiers?

Careful with the proportions, although the biggest flaw is the lips. Symbol drawing, dude. Your ref has such nice lips; feel the contours and shade them accordingly.

Also don't shade with black. The Hitler moustache on your drawing is a case example of why.

[Anonymous No.1624403]

>>1624366
Yeah i see. that really fucks up the composition tough. more reason to do thumbs i guess.

[Anonymous No.1624414]

>>1624385
You have no idea.

[Anonymous No.1624418]

>>1624403
>really fucks up the composition tough

It looks better. Take from it what you will.

[Anonymous No.1624422]

>>1624414
true.

[Anonymous No.1624446]

>>1624366
why so much black?

[Anonymous No.1624507]

>>1623094

[Anonymous No.1624510]

>>1622237
There's something wrong with the size of her head and her back..

[Anonymous No.1624532]

>>1624385

It's a hard pose. You did ok. It can be hard to transition from reference to imagination.

[Anonymous No.1624539]

>>1622833
I think I skyrocketed thank to Hampton. His da best, highly recommend everyone his book AND his video tutorial for CGMW.

[Anonymous No.1624542]

>>1623911
>>1623847
>>1623804
>>1623798
update
i'm pretty happy how it turned out
Still open for suggestions!

[Anonymous No.1624543]

>>1624542
ok, what still bugs me is the neck part.
anyone knows hot to make it less flat?

[Anonymous No.1624545]

>>1624542
The stuff you added behind the painting (text, neon pink and background.) really take away from the painting. That stuff either needs to be toned down or the painting itself needs to pop more.

[Anonymous No.1624547]

>>1624545
>>1624542
added contrast of the face and set back the saturation for the bg by 20%
thanks

[Anonymous No.1624552]

Working on a pic of Simon Blackquill from Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies for fun and to practice lighting.

All that's left is to put the cast shadows from the prison bars on Simon, and polish the shading and highlights some more.

Does anyone have any good reference of how cast shadows should fall on a person?

[Anonymous No.1624554]

>>1622563

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1624569]

>>1624547
Why does she have no ears giving the impression of wearing a mask yet has a mouth and nostrils? it's really weird.

[Anonymous No.1624575]

>>1624532
Does anyone here have the opposite of that problem? I first started drawing because I wanted to be a comic book artist, but got into other fields instead somehow (not complaining, comics pay is shit-tier unless you're Jim Lee) and focussed on drawing stuff from imagination as opposed to referencing everything.

So now I can draw stuff from imagination to an 'OK' standard with no reference, but I find it very hard to work from reference, especially to do studies of photos and the like.

Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.1624577]

a 30 min i spend a bit more time on, i need to use way more ref, like all the time.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1624580]

>>1624575
>>1624575
without trying to sound rude that's just probably becuase you have been drawing 'wrong' for a long time out of your imagination free from any objective comparison and now that you are realising how difficult you find it to imitate something using the an good technique you are finding it more difficult. Just keep practicing.

Also try not to just copy what you're looking at, analyse and understand WHY what you are looking that way and then draw that, if it doesn't look a whole lot like what you are studying it doesn't matter as long as the construction and such are correct.

[Anonymous No.1624601]

>>1624319
I guess it's doesn't have all that many light tones too it.. I'm flattered my piece made you feel something, but hope you've "recovered":)

>>1624345
Thank you so much, happy to hear you enjoyed it! :)

>>1624348
Naah, you're right, he is quite unmistakably bald in the game, I just choose to see it as a simplification for blonde hair, as I thought it fitted the "god loving" home he was raised in better.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1624608]

God I hate environment studies. this sucks but I'm pleasantly surprised with how this turned out, I usually get impatient with environment stuff before this point.

[Anonymous No.1624611]

>>1624608
Is that looking up at some sort of rocky plateau? You need to think about your values. Some of the rock/ leaves are as bright as the sky and thats really throwing the whole image off.

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1624619]

>>1624611
there are trees in the foreground which are well illuminated at the tops and a sort of maintain made of dead trees or something in the distance.

Here the ref.

[AK No.1624640]

>>1624554

make values more interesting

[Anonymous No.1624686]

>>1624313
What makes her look Downs? I was aiming for something East Asian, but something must be wrong if that isn't clear.
>>1624510
Are you saying the head is too large for the torso? Or the ribcage is too short or too narrow? Or that there's too much cranium?

[Anonymous No.1624689]

>>1624640
this is horrible. you probably never painted in color in your life. and there is a better way to increace contrast without ruining all the shapes.

[Anonymous No.1624701]

>>1624699
>>1624699

[Heretic !!O65RQvLvGXb No.1624708]

>>1624689
>without ruining all the shapes.
He obviously wasn't actually suggesting that the OP use his exact paintover for his painting just the values.

[Anonymous No.1624755]

>>1624708
i guess you're right, he just wanted to add texture brushes. what a faggot.

[Anonymous No.1624797]

>>1624640
duse stop with the shitty paint overs

[Anonymous No.1624800]

>>1624708
which are still shit btw, so much black obviously he sucks just as well.

[Anonymous No.1625009]

>>1624138
>>1624308
Should I do a different kind of dagger like a scimitar or change them some other way?

[Anonymous No.1626247]

always overwork things and ruin them,artistic restraint is at zero. Tips?