Beginner Thread

[None !NANNANNANA No.2205107]

Beginner Thread

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises. Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up.

Do not forget to resize and crop your images before uploading them. 1kpx is fine.

Before asking "what should I read/view/study/learn," consult the sticky: >>1579290

Questions go in the QUESTION THREAD: >>2203667
This is for posting studys & getting critique.

Thread study: Birds the word. Kingfisher to be exact. Keep it simple, see the form.

Threadly reminder to avoid carpal tunnel:
http://www.healthline.com/health/carpal-tunnel-wrist-exercises

Old thread >>2199088

[None !NANNANNANA No.2205110]

hardmode fox ref.

[Anonymous No.2205113]

>>2205107
>>2205110
theyre both hardmode for beginner furfag

[Anonymous No.2205116]

>>2205113
the firts is medium for beginner drawfag

[Anonymous No.2205117]

>>2205116
okay you start...

>didn't even change the op text.

[Anonymous No.2205131]

>>2205110
>Thread study: Birds the word. Kingfisher to be exact. Keep it simple, see the form.

okay

[Anonymous No.2205132]

had to show someone these studies from the weekend. They're supposed to be legs, lol.

[None !NANNANNANA No.2205134]

>>2205131
>>2205117

Im sorry, didnt notice the text was thread specific.

[Anonymous No.2205135]

>>2205132
oops that's a torso here are the legs

[Anonymous No.2205150]

>>2205107
>Thread study: Birds the word. Kingfisher to be exact. Keep it simple, see the form.

[Anonymous No.2205168]

Still working on the bird, not sure if I should just do this one instead.

[Anonymous No.2205171]

>>2205168
well it looks like this also is a bird thread

[Anonymous No.2205172]

>>2205171
The bird in this one looks different from my bird

[Anonymous No.2205173]

>>2205171
foxbird thread

[Anonymous No.2205179]

Here is my take on the bird!

[BricksWereShat No.2205196]

I made this one myself. I used a few ideas from other images of people getting pictures taken looking back. Now it's just the small details before I move it over to photoshop and give it the final touches with the tattoo of our squad emblem in the middle of his back.

[Anonymous No.2205199]

Is Drawing on The Right Side of The Brain a good book for a complete beginner? Like I can more or less draw circles and shapes while having an understanding of perspective, and I understand construction for heads at least though I struggle a bit with it.

[Anonymous No.2205200]

>>2205199
just steal it and see if you like it and if you think you can learn anything from it.

[Anonymous No.2205201]

>>2205200
I did, I just don't want to get over my head. But either way I guess I might just go ahead and give it a try, thanks.

[Anonymous No.2205221]

>>2205201
It's what my school uses for complete beginners so you should be fine

[Anonymous No.2205230]

>>2205107

[Anonymous No.2205233]

>>2205230
Keep it simple, see the form.

[Anonymous No.2205234]

Kind of a repost from last beginner thread since it died. Working through the second week of Michael Hampton's figure drawing class. Having his actual words and example to go along with his book are really helping. For anyone who's interested, here's the link to the playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmvvULkxsc81Az2i_0wOIVVMkRJnPoA7i


I can feel the progress, but I'm still struggling with confidence and gesture. Here's some gesture lines for the upcoming construction work (1/2)

[Anonymous No.2205235]

>>2205234

(2/2)

[Anonymous No.2205236]

Hi guys, we're making a visual novel, so I am looking for an artist. You will have to draw sprites, maybe something else. Here's some drafts sprites

[Anonymous No.2205238]

One more

[Anonymous No.2205239]

here are some additional red fox references for study purposes

[Anonymous No.2205241]

>>2205239

[Anonymous No.2205242]

>>2205241
and kits

[Anonymous No.2205244]

>>2205236
If you interested, write to [e-mail]

[Anonymous No.2205254]

>>2205230
kekd

[Anonymous No.2205260]

>>2205239
>>2205241
>>2205242

Those sure are some strange birds!

[Anonymous No.2205314]

>>2205234
>>2205235
figure drawing is hard

[Anonymous No.2205362]

when will i ever stop being a fag

[Anonymous No.2205367]

>>2205362
dont fight it and learn to draw fappable dicks instead

[Anonymous No.2205368]

>>2205367
i draw dicks for fun. not really into drawin lewd stuff for lewd ppl.

[Anonymous No.2205371]

>>2205368
>i draw dicks for fun
-/ic/

[Anonymous No.2205379]

>>2205362
holy crap dude, I drew this once

[Anonymous No.2205384]

I just finished reading some of teal guy's critique and came to realize there is so much I need to learn. How do you manage learning all that stuff? I'm overwhelmed just thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.2205389]

>>2205384

Just take it slow, patiently, and carefully. Nobody gets super good in a day after all.

For example, all I've done today so far was draw out a foundation for hands and the head (bones, skull, landmarks, etc.) So I could study them and get a feel for just those right now.

[Anonymous No.2205394]

>>2203600
tried touching it up a bit more

[Anonymous No.2205413]

>>2205394
The top of the head and areas around the beak, branch, and tail look too soft and the background kind of blends into it when it seems it shouldn't. Also, the feathers near the bottom of the torso don't pop out enough. It feels a little flat to me. Beak colors are off, and the branch should have a lot more definition I think.

Really good job though.

[Anonymous No.2205453]

>>2205413
I don't know if you know this, but there are things that guide the focus of your eyes, like the use of white, definition, blurriness, etc

When you take a pic you use only one eye, when you draw you use two. Of course it'll be rendered differently and the artist should adapt to it

I don't know if this is the case, but anyone who knows the slightest bit about painting would try to guide your eyes towards the head and beak of the bird, and away from the bottom and stick. If you were to go overboard with the details there all the drawing would look uncanny, weird and would be ruined

[Anonymous No.2205466]

>>2205453
That's true, but I feel like the effect is too strong. I'm not saying it's wrong to paint it that way, just that it's not accurate to the photo.

[Anonymous No.2205494]

>>2205493

[Anonymous No.2205507]

>>2205494

Sticky has plenty of online resources.
Proko is quick and simple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Sy8m04uF8&list=PLmvvULkxsc81Az2i_0wOIVVMkRJnPoA7i
This is also good for figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.2205517]

>>2205507
thanks!

[Anonymous No.2205520]

>>2205413
Thanks, man. I see what you mean. Admittedly, the weird translucent bits at the top of the pic was unintentional and I missed it while trying to clean it up.

[Anonymous No.2205532]

>>2205520
what software are u using anon?

[Anonymous No.2205537]

>>2205532
Clip Paint Studio
I got the pro version on sale a while back ($20 iirc), dunno how much it costs now though

[Anonymous No.2205559]

>>2205520
Sure, just trying to help, I'm way worse at painting, but I consider myself OK at spotting what I did wrong. I also forgot to mention the end of the branch was shaped differently. I really liked it though, it looks great, I just get nitpicky when I look at myself and others' art.

[Anonymous No.2205923]

i feel like i messed up a lot. i know the ears are a little janked and i'm not too sure about the placement of the eyes :c but at the same time i'm weirdly happy with this one >:^Y

[Anonymous No.2205952]

I went from day 0, at the left, to today, day 20, at the right. Any tips to continue to improve as a beginner? Should I do more self portraits? those two are my only self portraits in the 21 days I decided to learn to draw.
>inb4 your face needs loomis
I don't know if I'm ready to study anatomy, that's why I want to ask if it's ok to begin now.
>inb4 shave

[Anonymous No.2205959]

>>2205952
Go through Betty's book "Drawing on the right side of the brain". It helps a bunch, broseph.

[Anonymous No.2205991]

>>2205952
>not ready to study anatomy
then how the fuck do expect to get any better

[Anonymous No.2205995]

>>2205991
Anatomy is one of the last thing you learn.
Gestures, construction/form and perspective can get you pretty far if you have a good understanding of these.

[Anonymous No.2205997]

>>2205995
Indeed, I think so even if I'm noob. I'm still drawing still life things for today, but I want to be sure that I don't waste time while I can use that time studying new things. That's why I'm asking. In my opinion, finally I got rid of symbol drawing, but I wan't to be sure if there is something very evident I can improve.
>>2205959
I had read "Keys of Drawing" because it was in my local library, but they didn't allow me to take to my home so I do a quick review every time I go there. I had read an excerpt of "Drawing on the right side of the brain" and maybe I will bought it. Seems interesting.

I did perspective in my undergrad years, even if not free hand perspective. I wan't to give a try to values but I need a better pencil (I'm working with my old 2H)

[Anonymous No.2206016]

>>2205995
Is there any specific books that are in depth on learning gesture drawing and construction better? I feel like those are the biggest factors holding my practicing back. I never really learned much about them.

[Anonymous No.2206228]

is this horse okay. the top part is going to be his other ear so the forehead might look weird.

[Anonymous No.2206241]

>>2206228
if you asked whether that okapi was ok, id say yes.

[Anonymous No.2206250]

>>2206228
actually that top part is his mane not ear sorry

[Anonymous No.2206254]

just grindin away...

[Anonymous No.2206345]

listen, I want to ask, and im not trying to do a meme or anything. Is there anyone who used to or still uses this board that has actually had alot of improvement from Loomis?

I'm not saying Loomis is bad, I'm still doing the head exercises, but I'd love to see people's progress from loomising

[Anonymous No.2206375]

>>2206016
Force Dynamic life drawing for animators is a good start for gesture drawing.

[Anonymous No.2206392]

Still working on my bird, I'm not done yet. This is my first digital painting or drawing in years and it probably shows. I'm having real issues cementing down the feather patterns.

[Anonymous No.2206395]

>>2205107
any fur tuts?

[Anonymous No.2206396]

If any beginners are having trouble with the basics I suggest looking up a YouTube channel called my drawing tutorials, he has an 8 part series that is extremely helpful and it's helped me understand a lot of the basics.

[Anonymous No.2206410]

>>2206396
>my drawing tutorials
https://youtu.be/ve7cZTQIVuI

[Anonymous No.2206418]

>>2206395

[Anonymous No.2206420]

is it bad form to ask for crits on studies etc?

[Anonymous No.2206421]

>>2206418

[Anonymous No.2206424]

>>2206421

[Anonymous No.2206432]

>>2206395

[Anonymous No.2206435]

>>2206420
No, why would it be? Let us crit it

>>2206432

[Anonymous No.2206459]

>>2206435
>>2205132
>>2205135
>>2206254
Well I've been posting this stuff and I didn't get any repose so I figured maybe ic doesn't do studies, or maybe I just suck that bad... What do you think of these guys really. I've got no teacher so this place is really all I've got for feedback.

[Anonymous No.2206465]

>>2206459
the tuts arent what I was looking for, but I appreciate the effort. I want to do fur with a ink pen or pencil

[Anonymous No.2206469]

>>2206465
not that anon. anon. I'm the anon with the studies.

[Anonymous No.2206475]

>>2206465
not sure if this has anything on animals at all. but fuck i need that book!
http://www.amazon.com/Rendering-Pen-Ink-Techniques-Illustrators/dp/0823045293

[Anonymous No.2206481]

>>2206475
my dick is hard

[Anonymous No.2206493]

What books help me draw like my picture guys?

[Anonymous No.2206496]

>>2206475
http://bitsnoop.com/a-l-guptill-drawing-with-pen-and-in-q10898430.html
>Arthur L. Guptill - Drawing and Rendering In Pen and Ink

Here you go. I'll even seed it.

[Anonymous No.2206503]

>>2206496
THANK YOU ! can i suck your dick or something in return?

[Anonymous No.2206532]

hey /ic/, how would I go about improving this?

[Anonymous No.2206538]

>>2206532
Shit, forgot to resize it. sorry about that.

[Anonymous No.2206556]

>>2206496
amazing. just curious, is there a book that would focuse on figure/animal drawing in a similar style? nothing wrong with exteriors.

[Anonymous No.2206572]

[Anonymous No.2206581]

>>2206459
Well, your figure drawings are really stiff and you tend to pet your lines. Try drawing loosely, with your arm and not your wrist.
If you can, you should attend live figure drawing demos; if you can't, invest in some larger paper and try sites like http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed (what I personally use) to get used to doing faster, more confident gestures.

[Anonymous No.2206601]

>>2206572
Squid, what are you doing in this thread? Don't let people bully you back here.

[Anonymous No.2206793]

>>2205107

[Anonymous No.2206796]

>>2206793
and

[Anonymous No.2206824]

>>2206459
Yeah, sometimes it can be a little hard to comment on/critique studies. It's like when a gymnast is doing their stretches-- you don't really critique their stretches, unless they're doing them wrong. What they get coaches for is to critique their routines. I recommend that you apply what you do as studies to drawings from imagination, and from there we can critique/give advice on what you have to work on.

Having no teacher doesn't mean that you just study by yourself, it means that you have to test yourself too. Whenever you do a batch of studies you need to evaluate what you've learned. Say you do a bunch of drawings of legs, trying to understand the general forms of them and how they're constructed. After doing a bunch of drawings from photos or life, attempt at drawing the leg from new angles without reference, checking back on your studies as notes if you get stumped. Afterwards, check back to references of real legs and note where you made mistakes or where your drawings could have been better defined so you can improve for next time. This is the best way to study!

[Anonymous No.2206878]

>>2205179
Did another one in pen, any feedback please?

[Anonymous No.2206901]

>>2206601
Are you kidding me? Look at what he just posted. He absolutely belongs in the beginner's thread.

[Anonymous No.2206952]

>>2206538
more contrast, needs brighter highlights in some places and darker shadows

[Anonymous No.2206953]

>>2206392
yeh painting feather is difficult, though I'd work on the drawing first, yours is off compared to the ref, unless that's what you're going for

[Anonymous No.2206982]

>>2206493
Learn the fundamentals then get into comic stylisation i guess. I would not touch any 'how to draw comic/animu' esque book if i was you

[Anonymous No.2206989]

>>2206982
What kind of book you recommended

[Anonymous No.2206996]

>>2206989
You could always

I don't know


Read the sticky

[Anonymous No.2207014]

>>2206228
its a hippo

[Anonymous No.2207016]

looking to better connect the characters and foreground, to the background, since they seem really disconnected. And as always, crits apperciated

[Anonymous No.2207020]

>>2207016
welp. 4 chan itself will not let me post it. it keeps saying error, upload failed
https://gyazo.com/c9995b231f87f2d69759a805bef596f2

its probably a sign or some shit

[Anonymous No.2207022]

I cant seem to upload my image, so I had to resort to linking to imgur. I hope you guys dont mind it.


http://imgur.com/a/FOLLl

So I've started Loomising a few days ago. I've just finished the female heads and now am working on the body.
Some of these are from Loomis' book. (you can tell because they are good) and some are my own, be it from reference or my own head.
I was told last time to try and do more of my own stuff as well.

I was wondering if you guys think I'm going in the right direction?
I also wanted to know how do you guys do studies and get better at getting a better flow?

[Anonymous No.2207036]

>>2206953
I tried to fix some of the body shape issues right after I posted it since I noticed it was way off, but I might just move on at this point. I have no idea how to get it to look right in the body/wing area. There is no real underlying drawing per se.

I'll upload it on imgur since images seem to not be uploading.

https://i.imgur.com/NgcbXh9.png

[Anonymous No.2207039]

Working on this so far, anyone has any tips before I continue working it out?

http://imgur.com/ZFtiuo3

[Anonymous No.2207043]

>>2206572
Holy shit mikufag you're Tableguy level now.
Im impressed.

[Anonymous No.2207070]

Same guy as >>2205952
I picked "Fun with the pencil" and tried to do the firsts exercises. It's ok to do my own or I should stuck drawing old pedos? The first is a copy example of a drawing from the book. In the last I tried to maintain the style. The other faces are of my invention. It's ok to do those exercises this way?

[Anonymous No.2207076]

I didn't realize there was a specific kingfisher we were drawing. I kinda fucked this all sorts of up- values all over the place and the base shape is wrong.

When it comes to laying down a base sketch, how do you guys ensure that what you're drawing is as close to the ref as possible? I thought this was pretty damn close until I actually put them side by side.

[Anonymous No.2207078]

>>2207076
You can put them side by side while working to ensure that they look the same. It's sort of a sight-size approach minus the plumb line and anal rules that people follow. But when they are next to each other at the same size you can see the errors in shape and proportion very easily.

Other things to do is check angles. For example, the corner of his back to the tip of his tail, in yours it is a vertical line, in the ref it tilts diagonally. Try to estimate that angle, see how it is tilted a bit off the vertical.

[Anonymous No.2207135]

>>2206996
people don't agree with it so i am asking you

[Anonymous No.2207143]

My image was deleted, so eh. I started adding tiles to this, any tips for it??

[Anonymous No.2207147]

looks like the imaging is working again, i hope you guys done mind me reposting this

So I've started Loomising a few days ago. I've just finished the female heads and now am working on the body.
Some of these are from Loomis' book. (you can tell because they are good) and some are my own, be it from reference or my own head.
I was told last time to try and do more of my own stuff as well.

I was wondering if you guys think I'm going in the right direction?
I also wanted to know how do you guys do studies and get better at getting a better flow?

[Anonymous No.2207151]

>>2207143
I'd say to try to keep the tiles uniform (unless you're going for a dilapidated look) and in line. Right now it's really messy and there doesn't seem to be a uniform light source on the roof or the house.
The lighting on the silo doesn't match where the shadow is falling and the grass also is unaffected by the light.

[Anonymous No.2207162]

>>2207151
Yeah, I can see what you mean about the tiles and the shadow, if you don't mind me asking, how would I go about making the shadow react to the grass properly?

When I try to just erase parts of the shadow layer, it just makes the shadow look hard and unnatural, alongside STILL not looking like it's affecting the grass.

[Anonymous No.2207192]

How do I tell if I'm doing these right? They're 60s each. Also, is it better to start off with a longer or shorter time limit?

[Anonymous No.2207227]

>>2207162
try using a brush with a lower opacity/higher dilution
Does this help at all?

>>2207192
Try to focus more on the form and points of interest. Give your figures some weight.
60s each is fine, but I would recommend that you start off with quick gestures (10s each) and gradually move up until you hit 5 or 10 minutes in one session.

[Anonymous No.2207231]

>>2207227
Oh fuck, yeah, that helps a lot. I really appreciate this dude.

[Anonymous No.2207232]

>>2207231
Thanks, man. No problem!

[Anonymous No.2207255]

Also, at the risk of spamming the thread, I have another piece from yesterday, which I tried to fix up following some critiques. Is the contrast and sense of depth better now?

[Anonymous No.2207258]

Anyone recommend any good resources for how muscle attaches to bone? I'm making due with google searches but wading through so much information can get frustrating.

[Anonymous No.2207265]

waiting for my nibs to come in, how is this?

[Anonymous No.2207270]

>>2207258
Get an anatomy book, any decent one will cover insertions and origins.

[Anonymous No.2207274]

>>2207270
I'm gandering at the sticky. Thanks for the input.

[Anonymous No.2207305]

>>2207274
Gah. What I really hate about these anatomy books that they tend to use terminology that can be confusing to someone who is just starting out.

[Anonymous No.2207310]

>>2207265
very muddy

[Anonymous No.2207325]

>>2207310
how do i fix this? ive improved but its still a problem im having

[Anonymous No.2207341]

>>2207016
lets try this again

[Anonymous No.2207351]

hey /ic/ I've never been quite into drawing before, however I like DnD and roleplays... I'm never good at describing stuff I make, so I just imagine it in my mind's eye. I wanted to give it a go at drawing a fantasy weapon I've thought up for my gnome... It's a musket with a bill hook, and a spike. The Gnome's name is Spikey, so his name is carved into the end. What do you all think? What suggestions would you have to make it look better?

[Anonymous No.2207357]

>>2207325
I'm not >>2207310 but IMO it seems like your range of values isn't large enough. Try having more really light and really dark lines. Also, draw your lines with more purpose. All the lines seem to have basically the same weight which makes the drawing look more flat than it should. There's not many really hard edges that separate one detail from another. Try butting up more really light values next to really dark ones to make things pop out.

[Anonymous No.2207362]

>>2207341
eh, i played with it a bit, not saying its any better, because i have no idea what im doing

[Anonymous No.2207367]

>>2207341
I'm really digging it, man. Their relative distance from the foreground and the background is unclear due to the lighting. The shrubs in the back took really close to them but also far away.
>>2207362
Yeah this is a bit better imo because the lighting is more uniform

[Anonymous No.2207371]

>>2207258
Something that's always helped me is to understand that muscles are logical

Muscles contract and release, they're attached by tendons to bones at points that give leverage. Tendons are quite hard and don't actually contract like muscles. From origin to insertion (origin is almost always just the largest attachment of the muscle and the insertion is the smaller. [lats have their origin spread over the back and the small insertion in the shoulder]), a muscle and it's tendons are going to be in places that are able to manipulate the skeleton and make use of the various types of joints. The primary leg muscles go over the hip and the knee because they need to move the knee as well as the hip. This is logical because the muscles contract and, depending on which muscles contract, the leg will move a certain way

[Anonymous No.2207373]

>>2207362
I don't know if its me or 4chan, but it says this file is 404ed. anybody that still has it open mind posting a imigur or gyazo?

[Anonymous No.2207385]

>>2207362
>>2207373
thats because i delted it since i decided to spend some more time with it

[Anonymous No.2207390]

>>2207371
My issue is finding a reliable source that touches on where these major muscle groups connect to on the skeleton.

[Anonymous No.2207398]

>>2207385
thanks again. interesting how its a different narrative now, just simply by changing the lighting and background. I'll keep this in mind as I progress, since I'm not sure if I'll take it further how you have done it or continue with the original idea

to clarify; the original idea was for the viewer to intemperate this strange looking monster encroaching on a little girl, as if to lead her through the forest. But upon viewing it further , you see that the girl is leading him, changing him as the read spreads up his arm

again, since I'm a beginner, i didn't display it that well to begin with and gave out mixed messages. yours seems more faithful to how it should be done properly. sorry if i came off as an asshole with the whole "MUH VISION" but yours is probably the narrative I'm going to go with anyway

final wip for this version

[Anonymous No.2207406]

>>2207398
no problem, thing is that you chose quite a difficult idea to capture to begin with.

anyway, you are still missing the "through the forest" part because of that weird theater stage spot lighting effect

[Anonymous No.2207407]

>>2207147
looks like garbage, are you even trying?

[Anonymous No.2207409]

>>2207407
Nice critique, faggot. I bet your mother is proud.

[Anonymous No.2207412]

>>2207390
Each muscle has its attachments listed. If you don't know what a muscle or bone where it's attached to is you should learn.

http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html

[Anonymous No.2207415]

I have a question as a beginner. Is repetition of a drawing good or bad for you?

I'm going through Loomis and every now and then i draw animals or people from references. I at times complete a drawing despite the mistakes I've made and end up with a result that isnt very pleasing. So I try it again. But I feel as if sticking to a single drawing over and over does not actually help me improve.

As I go into my self allotted time for practice I have to ask, is repetition good for you or am I making myself worse and frustrating myself by redoing failed drawings?

[Anonymous No.2207417]

>>2207412
That's really useful, dude. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.2207421]

Gesture studies from the masters.

[Anonymous No.2207427]

>>2206796
Final doggo

>>2207415
I like repetition (see other posts), but it does nothing for me if the drawing gets too formulaic.

[Anonymous No.2207432]

Do you eventually move away from a crosshair for drawing from life and just use a basic unit?

[Anonymous No.2207469]

foxes are hard

[Anonymous No.2207573]

how did i do on the fox? i mean bird?

[Anonymous No.2207609]

First post a any /ic/ thread sorry for shot quality.

[Anonymous No.2207622]

Critique please

[Anonymous No.2207631]

First time doing muscle and anatomy study. I'm shit at gesture and figure drawing so I decided to go into anatomy in hopes it'll help.

[Anonymous No.2207642]

how am I doing fam

[Anonymous No.2207644]

>>2207642

I used to watch Rosanne, too.

[Anonymous No.2207689]

>>2207642
>>2207644
holy shit.

[Anonymous No.2207824]

Noob from last couple of threads here again, some more studies drawn from reference. Critique is welcome

[Anonymous No.2207830]

>>2207824
The lower right one looks like he misses an ear. I can't see how the hair would look in reality. The others are good i think, but that one looks just weird. I duno shit about art but I hope that helps somehow.

[Anonymous No.2207835]

>>2207830
Thanks for the input. In the ref the ear is behind all the hair so you can't see it

[Anonymous No.2207852]

how do you even qualify for feedback? the amount of unanswered posts is too high

[Anonymous No.2207864]

Are classes usually worth it? I was thinking about taking some soon, it seems better for learning if you're shitty with your self discipline.

>>2207852
I'm assuming people answer what they know for certain or something.

[Anonymous No.2207880]

>>2207824
Try now to draw a face without reference

[Anonymous No.2207949]

>>2207824
tumblr nose much?

[Anonymous No.2207969]

>>2207325
by not smudging your paper and bringing in some hard edges

[Anonymous No.2207982]

>>2207622
How long did you spend on this piece? I would suggest working on construction and closely examining your reference photo.

[Anonymous No.2207986]

>>2207469
You should try to work on line confidence and control now that you're familiar/comfortable with construction.

>>2207573 It's alright, anon. You should try to push yourself harder on these studies; now that you have the construction in place, try to more fully render it.

[Anonymous No.2207990]

>>2207642
work on your shading, don't rush the hair.

be a lot more patient with the pencil, go over the same spot again and again very lightly. right now there are lines showing in your shading which is in this case very unappealing, since it's obviously not a stylistic choice.

[Anonymous No.2207994]

idek wat im doin

[Anonymous No.2208002]

>>2207994
push those shadows more! Are you working from the color ref? Or from a black and white one?

[Anonymous No.2208004]

>>2208002
from the color reference. i'm still not used to pushing values..
gonna try it again tho!

[Anonymous No.2208038]

>>2208004
any particular reason why it's not black and white? just curious why you went with light brown-ish.

[Anonymous No.2208055]

>>2207192
This is a pretty good video on the basics of gesture drawing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvjB0rj6yAc

[Anonymous No.2208063]

>>2208055
>alfonzo dunn

Muh nigga. That guy is the whole reason I got into drawing.

[Anonymous No.2208128]

Thank you guys for telling me to get keys to drawing by bert dodson. im still shit but this is a massive improvement over all the blooks i tried drawing. so here i my progress on the excersizes in the book

[Anonymous No.2208133]

>>2207986
thanks anon, will do

[Anonymous No.2208142]

I just wanted to thank you guys, and all of /ic/

I'm so happy Ive made progress listening to all of you. At first I was worried because there were a few threads with OP complaining about how the sticky is shit and doesn't help at all.

Well fuck them, practice and patience, and help from the sticky (working on Drawing on the right side of the brain/Keys to drawing) got me from the left pic to the right pic in one month.

I know I'm still shit and I have a long way to go, but my progress shows that the sticky works if you don't give up.

[Anonymous No.2208146]

>>2208128
>>2208142

Oh man I didn't even see your post just before mine. Holy shit hivemind.

[Anonymous No.2208168]

>>2208128
that pepper <3 so cute

[Anonymous No.2208184]

Help me.
Tell me why this picture doesn't work. Actual critique. Please dont guide me to sticky.
Also what I could do to get better at what i fail at.

[Anonymous No.2208196]

>>2208184

She inst casting a shadow, assuming you just havnt done it already though... it feels like you have her leaning forward but her torso and head are as high as if she wasnt leaning forward, so she has an extremely long, and much to flexible spine.

[Anonymous No.2208207]

>>2207986
thing is i actually tried to push myself in the opposite direction where i tried to simplify the bird, since this is the third one i did becaus ethe other ones look really flat and overdone ( >>2205179 and >>2206878 )

anyway, here is the fox, i really dont know what i was doing this time, becuase i cant think of it as a 3d object at all.

[Anonymous No.2208221]

>did a life drawing of stuff outside
>looks fucking awful

Christ. This really shows how bad I am despite drawing on a daily basis for almost 2 years.

Sorry for the shit quality. I tried to adjust the brightness/contrast.

[Anonymous No.2208267]

Since I was a small kid, I loved to draw. I used to spend hours and hours sitting and drawing instead of playing with the other kids, but I feel like I haven't really IMPROVED since then. I feel like my artstyle is of a 12 years old kid.
I tried learning how to draw manga, cartoons, i tried to find my own artstyle, but I feel like I simply mixed all of them and formed a weird style. But I find it really easy to copy other drawings or to recreate existing places, but I don't really like doing it

Also, I don't really have patience to draw complex scenarios full of details and everything. I bought an Intuos Wacom a year ago, and I use it everyday, but as a hobby. I just draw random things , sometimes I don't even save them.

Could anyone give me some tips?

[Anonymous No.2208276]

>>2208184
>dont guide me to sticky.

How about you actually go read and watch the materials listed in the sticky?

[Anonymous No.2208284]

trying to do cartooning but it's hard. I know I have to study loomis and realistic human anatomy, I did this some days ago. any critiques?

[Anonymous No.2208293]

>>2208184
the pose and anatomy are wrong. That's why people point you to the sticky, because almost drawing error can be traced back to being able to draw realistically.

I could tell you the face is wrong, the pose looks awkward, but that won't make you draw better. Sure, you might fix that picture, but you won't get better at drawing. At the sticky, there are links to guides on how to draw anatomy correctly.

Don't confuse this with style and character though. If you want to have your own style, you can't start out drawing and trying to find a special snowflake style for you, you must be able to draw stuff realistically and THEN develop your own style naturally.

capisce?

[Anonymous No.2208295]

>>2208267

if thats what most of your art looks like, need to do at least half of drawing on the right side of the brain, and all of keys to drawing.

And cut out the fucking chicken scratch anon.

[Anonymous No.2208297]

>>2208293

This, this post so hard.
>>2208184
LISTEN TO THIS MAN

[Anonymous No.2208305]

>>2208038
sorry for the late reply but it just makes it for me more comfortable to look at.

[Anonymous No.2208307]

>>2208267
I think you'll improve faster if you can point to me why a drawing looks like it was done by a 12 year old. If you find that, then you can fix the error

>>2208295
it's a sketch, anon.

[Anonymous No.2208314]

>>2208307
>it's a sketch

Nah. These are sketches. Big difference.

[Anonymous No.2208319]

>>2208314
Yes, that was a sketch. My hands tremble as fuck and I drew that simply because I thought a mask like that would be pretty

Also, I like sketchy drawings full of crooked lines. I don't know why, I just find it pretty

[Anonymous No.2208325]

>>2208314
Exactly
>>2208267
Nah man, sketches have defining lines, the artist has some idea what they're going for.


Chicken scratch is keep making a line in about the right spot till it looks right.

[Anonymous No.2208328]

>>2208319

You think that's a sketch, that is the problem.
I'm trying to help you anon, read the sticky, go through the books.


>>2208128
>>2208142
Look at these two, they sucked, now they are slightly better. Improvement. That is what you are after right? Listen to us, please.


You asked for tips, we are giving it to you. If you want a hugbox, go the fuck somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.2208334]

>>2208207
anon, what worked for me (im still learning) is drawing tons of cubes and spheres in different directions and perspectives, trying to draw them over a photo and then finally trying to draw by drawing the 3d objects, then refining.

[Anonymous No.2208337]

>>2208267

See

>>2208293
Replace post and anatomy with perspective.
Especially read the part about having your own style

[Anonymous No.2208351]

>>2207994
>>2208004
i went over it again, pushed the values and added color.
can anyone tell me how to get better at painting textures or do i have to get custom brushes (would prefer not to)?

[Anonymous No.2208355]

>>2208351
This is really nice, man! Texture brushes honestly make it more efficient to produce art; similar to physical painting.
I'd also like to find texture tutorials.

[Anonymous No.2208357]

>>2208351
>i don't know what I'm doing
>produces this 6 hours later

[Anonymous No.2208363]

>>2208355
thanks!
>>2208357
what exactly are you trying to tell me? if you mean my first post, i was just messing around. and i later decided, since someone told me to push my values, to add color and finish it.

[Anonymous No.2208364]

>>2208221
you're scaring me anon
a lot

2 years? and you still bad?

i fear for myself
i have to learn how to approach this correctly so i don't end up like you

[Anonymous No.2208365]

>>2208363
>what exactly are you trying to tell me?

That it looks really good.

[Anonymous No.2208367]

>>2208364

That's literally the first time I've done a life study of any kind. I also posted here >>2207631 if it means anything. I just recently decided that I needed to step it up. It'll be officially two years in December.

[Anonymous No.2208370]

>>2208365
damn, sorry. kinda overreacted there. thanks i guess :)

[Anonymous No.2208373]

>>2208370

Nah. Don't apologize. I've practice for at least 2 hours a day for the past 6 months and I feel I barely have anything to show for.

[Anonymous No.2208379]

>>2208373
i wish i could practice 2 hours a day but its always spontaneous and inconsistent.
just post your works anon. i bet you improved more in 6months than i did in the last 2 years.

[Anonymous No.2208385]

>tfw you finish reading the books in the sticky and do all the exercises yet you're still just as bad and clueless as you were before you read them

[Anonymous No.2208389]

>>2208385
you don't just do the exercises, you grind them.

[Anonymous No.2208396]

>>2208389
it's so boring though
how do people sit through this shit

the worst part is that i'm a nigger so laziness is like, in my blood or some shit

i can't quickposes for more than 10 minutes

i just wanna git gud but i can't fucking sit down

[Anonymous No.2208398]

>>2208334
interesting, could i see said cube over the fox?

[Anonymous No.2208400]

>>2208396
do stuff you are interested in. if you like drawing dicks all day just do it. but you gotta go out of your comfortzone to really improve. example: you don't like drawing pussy but you have to do it to improve. discipline is key.

[Anonymous No.2208413]

>>2208396
You gotta acquire the habit slowly. First day do 10 minutes, next day do 15 or 20 until you're doing 5-8 hours a day if your schedule allows it.

[Anonymous No.2208414]

How is it?

[Anonymous No.2208417]

>>2208389

I disagree, I only did the exercises once or twice each and saw a drastic improvement.


I believe rather than grinding, anons should go slowly, and think deeply on every one. They need to understand the WHY they are doing something in an exercise.


Grinding basic things is good, but in the books, you really need to understand why you are doing something.

[Anonymous No.2208421]

>>2208414
why is that poor mouse on fire?

[Anonymous No.2208422]

>>2208396

>Im a nigger so laziness is like, in my blood or something.

4chan. The only context where this is a totally normal, and acceptable sentence.

> I fucking love this place

[Anonymous No.2208429]

Welp, can't say im proud of it, but at least I can go back to studying, knowing that I drew this much.

I hope this encourages more people in the beginner thread to post original work, cause trust me, can't be as bad as mine.

[Anonymous No.2208434]

>>2208421
Come on m8. Don't meme me like this

[Anonymous No.2208436]

>>2208396
>nigger
no excuses
https://www.youtube.com/user/LighterNoteProd

[Anonymous No.2208438]

>>2208434
okay then.

if you want something to look good on mspaint, you can't strokes like that. Make an outline, fill it with one color, than use a line of appropriate thickness to give it that multicolored fur look.

you have excellent control and a great understanding of how a fox looks, though.

[Anonymous No.2208451]

>>2208438
HAHA you replied seriously! I win I win!! x^y

Will practice ur advice next time. I've never painted before and am trying to see if I deserve a tablet purchase

[Anonymous No.2208452]

>>2208184
not going to project here, but your post doesn't exactly say "I want constructive criticism"

the fact that you practically scoffed at the sticky doesn't demonstrate a willingness to improve or get better. You more likely than not wanted to have someone say "it's not bad" so you could feel a bit better about yourself.

I'm saying this because it's what I used to do. I was being picky about my criticisms because I wanted people to appreciate my art and say "hey that's not bad" but if you really want to improve you have to be willing to take all advice, no matter how many times you've heard it.

You could always just go for a low effort, uninspired cutesy style like pic related. Most people love that shit.

[Anonymous No.2208453]

Any one have any vids or tips on how to properly cross hatch?

[Anonymous No.2208457]

>>2208389
>you grind them.
Not the same anon, but thanks, I kept thinking of moving forward instead of focusing on what I'm doing now, and that's been holding me back.

[Anonymous No.2208458]

>>2208453
get this >>2206496

[Anonymous No.2208472]

>>2208379
>i bet you improved more in 6months

I've made substantial improvements in the subject matter I'm used to drawing in the past 6 months. I've realized that I need to step out of my comfort zones if I want to get better.

[Anonymous No.2208475]

>>2208396

You have to be interested in the topics you're studying or you may not get far. Draw shit you like and get good at it.

>>2208436

I was just about to post that.

[Anonymous No.2208533]

>>2208458
this book is pure babble

[Anonymous No.2208548]

>>2207982
Not very long - maybe like 10-15 minutes. I would spend more time on it, but I'm not sure where to go from there. I mean, I could start by rendering more, but the shading would have to be done in a way that shows the texture (right?) and drawing fur is something I have little experience in. I think I would fuck it up more if I tried to shade it.

>inb4 color

Not ready yet.

[Anonymous No.2208552]

Please help.

[Anonymous No.2208553]

>>2208548
If you're not comfortable rendering yet, I'd suggest to push yourself to focus on construction. Really look at your reference and spend minimal time looking at your drawing. It looks like you tried to draw what you assumed the photo looked like instead of diligently copying the photo

[Anonymous No.2208591]

>>2208305
Ah, cool.

[Anonymous No.2208629]

>>2208293
>>2208297
>>2208452
Yeah, learning that critique on art isnt critique on personality is a hard thing to learn. That's why people will seek compliments, rather than actual advice.
So long i have been drawing a lot of figures, but appearantly i didnt learn much about construction. Knowing my anatomy didnt really apply in practice either.
What's next is taking that advice, and going a step back to nail those fundamentals in. Just because someone draws a lot of figures mindlessly will not make him done with figure drawings.

[Anonymous No.2208636]

>>2208552
-Go look at a reference.
-Properly ID the lengths of limbs, body, etc.
-Construct shapes representative of the body.
...Profit

Be sure to keep at it and constantly use references as you learn to construct your own bodies. Nothing comes from nothing, so don't be afraid to reference, it's the only way.

[Anonymous No.2208638]

>>2208552

[Anonymous No.2208641]

i made this (not finished) and don't really know what to think of it. i kindof like it but i'm not sure.
critique? comments?

[Anonymous No.2208643]

Been working on my proportions lately. It's a thing you have to keep at constantly or else you'll loose it completely. Here's what I've been working on lately.

Can somebody point me in a direction to archived poses of people? I'd really appreciate that...

[Anonymous No.2208644]

>>2208638

Thank you so much for this. I was so lost with what I was doing. Now I see what I did wrong.

>>2208636

Thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.2208647]

>>2208641
Looks like you went for a polygon approach to represent the facial features of this dude. There seems to be inconsistencies next to smaller areas such as his eyes and lips (the geometry is really dense there and is hard to represent, I know). I'd personally recommend more studies of how draw more realistically and how to represent 3d objects on a 2d plane; something about his head seems a bit too long.

[Anonymous No.2208652]

So, I have to make the 5R page of Munsell's color page for 2D design class, we're using acrylic paint and it will have a value scale to the left. It's my first time ever working with traditional paint, acrylics to be specific. We're painting on "chips" of bristol board. How exactly does one go about mixing in general, let alone accurately enough for this? Like, each row are all the same value but increase in chroma further to the right. It seems like it should be simple but I don't want to waste a ton of paint doing this. I mean, if it's a system made to be this accurate, wouldn't there be a similar method to be as accurate in mixing?

[Anonymous No.2208692]

>>2208652

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rU2Juual18

Maybe this will help? Adding the opposite of a certain color will desaturate it.

[Anonymous No.2208710]

>>2208533
the fact that you are too stupid to learn from it doesent necesarily mean its babble

[Anonymous No.2208718]

tried to finish something got this far.

[Anonymous No.2208726]

>>2208453
Before you learn to cross hatch, learn to put in the exact shade. Cross hatching is an advanced technique; See Exercise I in The Elements of Drawing (http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30325/30325-h/30325-h.htm).). This exercise is pretty useful because you can apply the technique right away to your own drawings.

Any fountain pen which produces fine lines will do for the exercise. You won't get variable width lines, but that doesn't matter. For thinner than normal lines you can draw with the back of the nib. I won't recommend ballpoint pens, because their ink is often sticky and smears instead of drying.

[Anonymous No.2208731]

>>2207631

I guess it's paying off. I wouldn't have come close to making a pose like this two days ago.

[Anonymous No.2208771]

How do I encorporate perspective into my figure drawings ? I understand perspective to a good degree but how do I apply it to a human figure ?

[Anonymous No.2208777]

Who /learning to draw with non-dominant hand/ here? Shit's pretty awkward.

[Anonymous No.2208793]

>>2208414
FIREFOX

[Anonymous No.2208803]

>>2208458
Nah I just learn visually

[Anonymous No.2208821]

How do I master the fucking tablet?
I did some Han stuff. Was shitty at first but now
everything looks good on paper! I can do perfect ellipses, sometimes even perfect circles on paper with one stroke, fit it inside any tilted plane, draw straight lines without straight edge, three-point curves, four-point, cubes, etc etc etc... on paper.
But when I sit with tablet everything falls apart.

[Anonymous No.2208826]

>>2208793
kek

[Anonymous No.2208828]

>>2208821
this just means you are not comfortable drawing with a tablet. it took me about 1 - 2 months to get a natural feeling with a tablet. just put some serious hours into digital drawing.

[Anonymous No.2208857]

>>2208828
Now that's strange part because among all other stuff I learn, each day I practice linework for at least 2 hours and spent already two months doing this.
This failure is what I get for that

[Anonymous No.2208887]

>If you used Picasso's drawing of Igor Stravinsky seated in a chair, you drew the crossed legs beautifully in foreshortened view
SHIT
I didn't identify crossed legs when upside down, am I doomed?

[Anonymous No.2208891]

>>2208887
just try again with a different picture (wasn't there one with a Chinese?) and actually make en effort fam

[Anonymous No.2208894]

>>2208891
>just try again with a different picture (wasn't there one with a Chinese?)
I don't see one in the book or in the /ic/ sticky, maybe I have an older edition?

[Anonymous No.2208898]

Can I get some tips? Just did this from Drawing On The Right Side of the brain, and it looks like I fucked up hard. Especially on the left side of the body.

[Anonymous No.2208919]

>>2208857
Not the anon you were talking to but keep at it man, everybody is not the same. When I first started drawing it took me about a solid 2 months with practice and all just to get comfortable with a regular pencil

[Anonymous No.2208920]

>>2208857

What? Why? Do that shit for 10-15 minutes at most then jump into sketching. That's two hours that could be spent actually drawing rather than doing those mundane exercises. You'll build up the mileage and hand-to-eye coordination from just drawing more. Unless you're practicing inking, don't spend so much time doing exercises.

[Anonymous No.2208940]

>>2208898
You're supposed to draw it upside-down

[Anonymous No.2208959]

>>2208718
How can I finish this? I want better edges but the charcoal is really hard to work with on this Hot pressed illustration board. /ic/ what do?

[Anonymous No.2208966]

>>2208940
I did, I flipped it over for the picture.

[Anonymous No.2208971]

>>2208959
stop signing your damn name you special lil snowflake lmfao

[Anonymous No.2208996]

>>2208971
I only sign things that I give away is that bad form?

[Anonymous No.2208997]

>>2208971
also, are you familiar with the materials that I mentioned in my OP I could really use some advice on this.

[Anonymous No.2209000]

>>2208898

Unfortunately no tips, its simply an exercise on being able to copy lines down exactly. Be aware of all the other lines relations to the line you are drawing, be mindful of the angles.

[Anonymous No.2209003]

>>2208959
uh, i've never used whatdawhat board, but if it's any help at all, charcoal is a very..."flake"y medium. if you want your strokes to be more precise and permanent you can try getting a conte noir charcoal pencil.

[Anonymous No.2209004]

>>2208996

Im not the first guy. but yeah its a little douchey, its practice work, not something to be proud of.

[Anonymous No.2209006]

>>2208959
also you can use hairspray (don't let the jews rip you off with fixatives lmao) to "freeze" layers of charcoal. like if you've drawn up to a certai amount, and want to make it permanent, jizz a layer of hairspray on it to fixate it then continue drawing on top

i cant tell if she has hair or a scarf on her head

[Anonymous No.2209083]

>>2205107
it is a bit messy, but ok i think..

[Anonymous No.2209124]

>>2209004
actually I was really trying my level best to make a finished pice here. I'm looking advice on finishing it.

[Anonymous No.2209126]

>>2209003
I'm using a 1710 b conte pencil and I used a conte crayon for the Background. I'ts really flaky on the watercolor paper which is basically what this stuff is. if it's just mileage then I'll get it eventually.

[Anonymous No.2209127]

>>2208351
gave me another 2 hours and tried to focus on texture.

>>2209083
i like it, could use some hard edges tho.

[Anonymous No.2209128]

>>2209006
good observation, thanks Maybe indicate some of the pattern of the scarf. ok! this is great!

[Anonymous No.2209223]

I'm doing gestures and about to start on proportions. Any tips for me?

[Anonymous No.2209231]

>>2209127
do you got a tumblr or blog?

[Anonymous No.2209233]

>>2209223
focus on the leading edge, the weight, and the rhythm of the pose. Stop drawing nothing but circles. Banding lines are a good way to depict the form but boxing in the figure in constant circles reduces the gesture to a wooden mannequin. gestures are about fluidity.

[Anonymous No.2209236]

>>2209233
Noted and much obliged.

[Anonymous No.2209246]

>>2209231
nope. tumblr confuses me. maybe i'm just dumb.

[Anonymous No.2209275]

>>2209246
same here, i think we are too old

[Anonymous No.2209280]

>>2209275
It's not that hard once you get used to it.
The site's just a mess in general.

[Anonymous No.2209298]

How do I stop being shit?

[Anonymous No.2209303]

some mouth/teeth studies since i don't know how to draw either of them

[Anonymous No.2209315]

drew some burds, 38 minutes exactly

[Anonymous No.2209318]

>>2209083

Is your monitor messed up or are you colorblind?

[Anonymous No.2209351]

>>2209298
Keep drawing. You need to see your own mistakes.

[Anonymous No.2209355]

>>2209315
drew the orange doges, again like 37 minutes

I think I fluffed up the top doge too much

[Anonymous No.2209367]

>>2209275
i don't think 18yo is too old. tumblr is just a big mess like this anon >>2209280 pointed out

[Anonymous No.2209370]

>>2209355
thought the bottom fox was a seal, damn.

[Anonymous No.2209396]

>>2209367
The new update made it even worse. Every Tumblr user agrees that Tumblr is a fucking mess, actually, and they shit on every new update.

Protip: Install XKit, it's like a 4chan X for Tumblr, makes the site bearable.

[Anonymous No.2209409]

>>2205107
posted this on the draw thread but I guess it belongs here

I been working on this for two hours now, I think I should go with value insted of colour since this is getting too complicated, also took me like 1 hour to get everything in place (eyes, nose)

any tips in how to get better at drawing portraits? I cant never see proportions right

[Anonymous No.2209410]

>>2209409
ref

[Anonymous No.2209451]

>>2209298

Lots of self portraits, from pictures, use smartphone or tablet to take photos of face.

[Anonymous No.2209477]

>>2209409
Get the background right first, pure white isn't what's in the ref and will make the same colors show a lot differently.
Love what's going on with the face so far though

[Anonymous No.2209486]

>>2209409
get the large blocks of color and shape done first and then work your way to smaller details

you're using a small brush to render everything, and it's making the image look terribly messy, which is probably related to the above problem- you're focusing on details without taking care to see how they fit in the larger picture.

use a large brush for larger details, like the shadow on the jaw and the red cheeks and tan face, and then work your way smaller as it becomes no longer feasible to use a large brush to render more and more minute details. don't be afraid to jump up and down between brush sizes as you see fit.

pic related

[Anonymous No.2209492]

>>2209486
eyes are too far apart but otherwise this fucking kicks ass man.

[Anonymous No.2209495]

Workin' that Loomis.

What exactly am I supposed to be learning from this anyway? I'm mostly focusing on learning to grasp form, seems to be working for me.

[Anonymous No.2209497]

>>2209495
>I'm mostly focusing on learning to grasp form, seems to be working for me.

That's good because that's exactly what you're supposed to be taking away from that book lol

[Anonymous No.2209498]

>>2209409
This guy >>2209486 about sums it up

You should focus more on constructing the larger shapes and form before doing the details like the exact shape of the nose, eyes, etc.

Try starting with a solid line drawing first defining the major sections of the face and block out the values from there. It should help you immensely since you wouldn't have to go over as much stuff while rendering if you solved them in the drawing stage.

[Anonymous No.2209499]

>>2209492
thanks!
there's some other problems as well, this guy has a really prominent philtrum and i just forgot it, among other things.

[Anonymous No.2209501]

>>2209497

I did this before that big blook head.

Hows it seeming to you?

[Anonymous No.2209503]

>>2209501
>>2209495

Sorry it keeps auto rotating my images and I can't make it stop.

[Anonymous No.2209506]

>>2209501
looks good enough.
try drawing real life heads from stock photos or facebook images, and then rotating them in your mind and drawing the new angle from your imagination to test your grasp of form.

also work on your line quality, but that's not wholly relevant.

[Anonymous No.2209519]

>>2209477
thanks, I will

>>2209486
thanks for taking the time anon, I see now more clearly on what I should be focusing, instead of just detailing and then realizing the proportions are wrong, you nailed it!

>>2209498
I kind of did a pre sketch but at the end I realized that the proportions where very wrong, I should start measuring more, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.2209618]

this face looks so weird and terrible, could use someone to guide me in the right way

[Anonymous No.2209620]

>>2209486
wow you're definitely really good, like professional level. I wonder who you are

[Anonymous No.2209625]

>>2209501
Try to make longer more confident lines

[Anonymous No.2209626]

>>2209409
>I think I should go with value insted of colour since this is getting too complicated

This is a good idea. Color can be surprisingly complicated, especially starting out. I'd suggest practicing in value for a while to get a good idea of it, it'll help when you start coloring (and when you do color, it doesn't hurt to greyscale what you're doing every now and then to check your values).

As for proportions, construction is important. I'm sure you've heard people shout loomis before, but that's the idea. Draw some skulls, too, and try to paint a face over it. At least for me, I had a far easier time drawing skulls than faces, and that gets you thinking about where the eyesockets, nose, cheekbones, jaw, etc go.

[Anonymous No.2209627]

>>2209618

philtrum (space between nose and lip) is absurdly given the make up of the face and the distance of mouth to chin. You have to think of faces as being of a relatively consistent scale. If one thing gets bigger other things have to get smaller. If his philtrum is really long he isn't going to also have a really long nose and a reasonable amount of space between the mouth and chin.

Other:
your eyebrows don't curve realistically around the form of the head
your head is not in perspective
the attenuation angle of your jawline is way to extreme. think about how the head would look for 3/4 angle. there's no way his jaw would be like that from the front.

learn to draw before you start to paint
walk before you run.

[Anonymous No.2209640]

>>2209627
lol I ended up turning him into an even bigger abomination, but yeh youre right I need to work on my drawing first

[Anonymous No.2209642]

gestrues

[Anonymous No.2209765]

Why is this place so scary?

[Anonymous No.2209770]

NEW THREAD

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>>2209769

[Anonymous No.2209771]

>>2209396
scary? i never once experienced any kind of sp00py shit here. maybe /x/ is the place to go.

[Anonymous No.2209775]

>>2209765
because people here actually aim to git gud

now get the fuck back to >>>/b/ you avatarfagging meme piece of shit

[Anonymous No.2209790]

>>2209775
draw/rpfags are the worst

[Anonymous No.2210856]

Trying to get into digital

[Anonymous No.2210864]

>>2208276
If someone want's advice on something after looking through those materials, it's pointless to just tell them to go back to it.

[Anonymous No.2211178]

>>2208396
Aren't you they guys that used to be slaves?
Just get someone to "encourage you" to keep practicing.

[Anonymous No.2211862]

im trying. anyone got any tips on how i should construct bodies and stuff?

[Anonymous No.2212254]

>Come back after 10 months to start drawing again
>Beginner threads aren't numbered anymore
>I forgot everything

Okay guys, I'm back. But for Pete's sake, I won't touch Betty Edwards ever again.

Is there any way to avoid this doubled bitch ass nigger shit, which made me stop drawing?
Can I go straight for Loomis and stick with him?