vent thread

[Anonymous No.3881327]

Tell me your sins, your frustrations and secrets.
I'll listen.

[Anonymous No.3881333]

I feel like im improving, i eat my humble pie studying masters everyday, and ive lived a good life and cultivated wisdom as a child i asked for nothing and acchived a zen contentment, but now that im trying to get actually good i realised i wpuld jave to actually WANT it bad enough i would have to let suffering back into my heart, ive done this ane i know the chances of ever being actually "great" are impossible but no one ever got there who didnt WANT it i feel on the precipice of madness i could still pull back and be cherised by the gods as a wise man, but i think i will let it consume and destory me just like it did the mother art took from me...

[Anonymous No.3881345]

>>3881327
he looks his age here

i remember people from /ic/ telling me that he was only 30 years old. fyi he's 44.

[Anonymous No.3881348]

>>3881327
I need to stop chasing. Sometimes I see an artist who draws really amazing women, or animals, or vehicles, or animations, and I want to spend time learning that but I think it can become a trap, you can spend a whole lifetime chasing skills. In the end, the things you learn to draw should be the main selling point of your art. If the point of my art isn't sexy women then there's no point chasing the skills of an artist whose #1 selling point is drawing really nice women. I need to focus on the things that matter specifically for the things I'm making.

[Anonymous No.3881349]

If you're strictly a digital artist you're stupid

[Anonymous No.3881350]

I improved a lot in the past couple weeks, but i legit unlearned everything since yesterday.
I don't know what's happening.

[Anonymous No.3881352]

>>3881350
It's normal to have this. It's a bit of a rollercoaster.

[Anonymous No.3881354]

>>3881327
goddamn kim jung gi is fucking ugly

[Anonymous No.3881358]

>>3881349
I try to do both and keep a pocket sketchbook with me at all times, but even if I’m sketching with no erasing, exact same subject, no other brushes, I am still better digital than traditional.
It frustrates me since I started with traditional and feel I’m losing my knack for it.

[Anonymous No.3881359]

>>3881354
in the OP he reminds me of Shang Tsung from the original Mortal Kombatt movie
(But bald)

[Anonymous No.3881360]

>>3881333
I feel this hardcore.
I could put way more time into my art than I do, but I just don’t want to be great badly enough. I got to the point where I can impress the average normie, and kinda felt that was enough.

[Anonymous No.3881363]

>>3881359
even your post picture looks better than kim jung gi. If I was his wife, I wouldnt want to sleep with him

[Anonymous No.3881367]

I get so jealous of other artists that I don't follow any on social media solely out of jealousy.

[Anonymous No.3881371]

>>3881363
how about now

[Anonymous No.3881372]

>>3881371

[Anonymous No.3881374]

>>3881371
>>3881372

[Anonymous No.3881383]

>>3881374

[Anonymous No.3881385]

>>3881327
KJG is a fucking failure. He has the best drawing skill in the world and he does absolutely nothing of importance with it.

[Anonymous No.3881387]

>>3881385
>and he does absolutely nothing of importance with it
showing what a skilled artist can do with just a brush? I'm sure he motivates more artists than he lead to quitting.
I don't really like his work and most of the appeal is in his method, but he's inspirational.

[Anonymous No.3881388]

>>3881383
I take it back now. Kim jung gi is fine as he is now

[Anonymous No.3881389]

>>3881385
>he does absolutely nothing of importance with it
And what are those important things he could do with his gift? Cure cancer?

[Anonymous No.3881392]

>>3881383
heh

[Anonymous No.3881458]

>>3881389
sounds reasonable enough

[Anonymous No.3881459]

>>3881327
>frustrations

>draw
>get frustrated at how shit it is
>stop
>find drawing weeks later
>its actually pretty ok

[Anonymous No.3881461]

>>3881348
This is legit. It’s difficult to pick a specialisation though, I wanna do it all

[Anonymous No.3881470]

>draw something that I think looks okay
>hesitant to draw more because I know it won't be as good

[Anonymous No.3881486]

>>3881458

[Anonymous No.3881495]

>>3881333
What few here seem to understand is that what you do in the place you're at is where a human being is meant to be. Nothing you could sacrifice to be "better" would actually lead to anything better, and especially not happiness wise. The rest is a lie. Do you wish to trade contentment for jealousy? Creativity for pettiness? Truthfulness in expression of the best part of who you are for something more mechanical and derived? Do you want a house in the slums or to make it so noone has to live in a slum?

[Anonymous No.3881504]

This monster girl in Japanese bondage shit is out of control
I'm legitimately researching how to wear a traditional hikifurisode and drawing ukiyoe style cranes, for porn.

[Anonymous No.3881520]

>>3881371
Jung Romero's about to make you his bitch

[Anonymous No.3881530]

>>3881327
I can't tell if I'm studying the 'correct' way, or if my newly acquired techniques are positively effecting my art.
The one thing I fear the most in my work is artistic stagnation. I just hope I'm not too retarded when it comes to understanding and applying concepts like perspective/gesture/construction/etc.

Whenever I finish an artistic exercise or study I can't confidently determine if what I did was a step forward or just the same shit in terms of quality/execution.

[Anonymous No.3881533]

>>3881327
No matter how much progress i make i always feel like i still don't know what the fuck i'm doing.

[Anonymous No.3881535]

>>3881359
Yeah he also looks a lot like every single person from east asia.. but bald

[Anonymous No.3881545]

HOW MUCH TIME A DAY DO I NEED TO DRAW? 2? 3? 8 HOURS?
Every single day I feel like i'm being lazy by drawing only for 90 minutes

[Anonymous No.3881549]

>>3881385
>>3881486
>You could overcome every master and recreate every imaginary chimera and forgotten myth of all of human history, and elevate humanity to a new level of culture!
>But I don't WANT to do that. I want to draw girls animals and machines

[Anonymous No.3881552]

>>3881545
I only draw for 60 minutes, anon. Don't worry about it

[Anonymous No.3881553]

>>3881549
KJG isn't world-changingly good. he's just a guy with an insane knack for drawing in perspective freehand. that's all.

[Anonymous No.3881555]

>>3881553
>KJG isn't world-changingly good
>implying he isnt influencing countless future artists as we speak

[Anonymous No.3881558]

>>3881553
Saying that he's just good at perspective is reductive. He has an enormous visual vocabulary, there's a video where he draws sketches at cons and they're all wildly different faces with all sorts of props I would have no idea how to draw without at least looking up some reference, like a guy in scuba diver gear, or a girl with an octopus on her head. No sketch, no reference, nothing. He can also draw cartoony, exaggerated stuff really well. You might not like his work or style in general but he's so absurdly fucking good it's unreal. He's some kind of alien.

[Anonymous No.3881560]

>>3881545
I work during the week but draw 4-8 hours even on work days. But that doesn't necessarily mean the gains are better because if you spent the hours just scratching random shit on paper you will learn almost nothing. Sometimes I waste the entire time on things that are not efficient for learning. You could segment the time into:

-Exercises (e.g. draw geo shapes, perspective line exercises, gesture drawing figure drawing class etc.)
-Study time (open book/pdf, read and draw along, redraw favorite artists work and learn as much as you can)
-Free drawing (draw whatever, sketch cool shit from your image folder)
-Finished pieces (using all the previous work make an illustration to the best of your ability and try to actually finish it)

In order to maintain focus you need to take breaks every hour/hour and a half and do other things in between to break up the drawing time into manageable chunks. That said even if you draw only an hour a day you can improve loads

[Anonymous No.3881565]

>>3881327
>Tell me your sins, your frustrations and secrets.
Sin: I draw moeshit because it's easy bucks
Frustration: I don't have enough time to draw so I can rake in the cash
Secret: I also enjoy drawing moeshit so it's win/win

[Anonymous No.3881566]

>>3881565
FUCK the spoiler didn't work

[Anonymous No.3881572]

I'm not working nearly as hard as I should and despite realizing that the only thing stopping me is myself, I can't never quite get out of this shitty apatethic mindset I acquired over years of doing fucking nothing.

[Anonymous No.3881595]

>>3881327
I just recently bought a tablet. I've been using a mouse until today. also, I can't stop drawing pic related.

[Anonymous No.3881597]

I'm able to copy a photo accurately with oils but I'm too autistic to ask a beautiful girl to pose for me for a photo. Now i just copy photos that i cant show to anyone because the reference is not mine. I want to fucking die.

[Anonymous No.3881609]

>>3881597
>but I'm too autistic to ask a beautiful girl to pose for me for a photo
just lean back on a chair like you're very relaxed, pretend you're doing shit with your phone and casually snap a few photos rapidly
remember the turn the shutter sound off, very important don't forget it

[Anonymous No.3881625]

>>3881609
What's the point if i cant adjust her pose, clothing, expression, the lighting... I'm trying to take images to create art with, not expand my fap folder.

[Anonymous No.3881630]

>>3881625
And that's why you're ngmi

[Anonymous No.3881637]

>>3881625
>What's the point
...you can "show to anyone" because the reference is yours?

[Anonymous No.3881658]

>>3881625
Jokes aside, I've got a buncha normie girls to pose for me and people don't understand what it means to take a portrait. They move, they talk, they get bored after 5 minutes.
You might get a girl to pose for you for a portait but it's extremely unlikely that she will actually act like a sitter.

[Anonymous No.3881660]

>>3881658
(it's much less awkward to ask a person to sit for you while you take her portrait than posing for a photo.)

[Anonymous No.3881697]

>>3881630
Name one artist who does this >>3881609 and has actually made it

[Anonymous No.3881787]

>>3881327
I wish I was dead, I can't kill myself because suicide is a sin, so I'm forced to keep on living. I wish I was never born.

[Anonymous No.3881805]

>mom just died in January and the grief is driving me insane
>drug addicted sister is unloading the stress she formerly put on mom onto me
>I have no idea how to help her, if I should just force her into rehab or what
>the only reason I feel obligated to do anything is because it’s literally like I have to finish my moms mission
>feel more grief and guilt for knowing that
>work is also stressing me out, I just started a new job 3 months before she died and I feel like I’m falling behind because I can’t sleep and can’t focus
>on top of all this, my drawing skills have regressed

[Anonymous No.3881814]

>>3881787
Be a man. You may not be able to kill yourself but that doesn't mean you have to live long. If you never take any medical services I grantee you'll die early, but you really don't want to end it that badly so just complain the rest of your long lived life.

[Anonymous No.3881818]

>>3881805
drawing needs to take the backseat for now. dont let your sister drag you downwards. finish whatever your mom's mission is. dont be too hard on yourself about your job, but nevertheless stay firm.

[Anonymous No.3881820]

>>3881818
by my moms mission I meant getting help for my sister, sorry if that was unclear. but thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3881826]

>>3881459

>draw
>not bad but not good either
>go to sleep
>see drawing next day
>absolute shit

[Anonymous No.3881828]

>>3881327
>only draw when my clients hit me up
>barely living life at all, zero learning, zero drawing otherwise
>decide to see a shrink
>once again, shrinks decide I need to be on meds
>used to be insanely productive when on antidepressants
>spent 3 years off meds with productivity progressively getting worse
>feel pure relief that I can spend 2-3 weeks guilt-free over not drawing while I wait for the meds to kick in
This shit goes in cycles, and I feel like such a fucking faggot for not being able to function like an human bean without them. Based on this pattern I must have lost about 4-5 years worth of progress from just the times I went off medication previously.

[Anonymous No.3881854]

>>3881385

He exist to make you go further. Just dont ask hum what Pen use

[Anonymous No.3881964]

HOW THE GOD DMAN FUUUUCK DO TOY DRAW EYES AT ANGLES. Holy SHIT

[Anonymous No.3882059]

>>3881964
just like feel the form bruh

[Anonymous No.3882064]

>want to draw
>actually draw
>it's shit
>same face/same poses everytime
>can't get better because no studies or actual work
>stuck in sub /beg/ tier level
>still feel the itch to draw
>it all looks terrible

[Anonymous No.3882089]

>>3882059
what the fuck does that even mean

[Anonymous No.3882285]

>>3881327
I want anon to suck my dick when I post. I want anon to nitpick every detail of my drawing so as to feel superior even though they never will be. I want anon to ask for my blog, guidance, demand commissions of my work at exorbitant prices and more importantly I want to steal all the yous from every other delivery in one fell swoop and obtain OP image each thread I draw for anon.
>anon notice me

[Anonymous No.3882530]

>>3881820
>>3881805
You're not obligated to help your sister. Cut ties with her. Get out as far away as you can. Your mom is a bit selfish for giving you that kind of burden.

[Anonymous No.3882557]

can do any one aspect of art well but dont know how to integrate it into a full piece and just stuck doing studies that go nowhere

[Anonymous No.3882559]

>>3881333
>>3881360
>>3881495
Goddamn ya'll must be homos because this shit is melodramatic as a queer at prom. If you don't want to put in the work actually just drawing for hundreds of hours, try drawing smarter-- practice better, more focused. Don't buy into that whole "great art requires great sacrifice spiel" that self-absorbed psudes and queers buy into, the "tortured artist." Learn to love the doing, and the struggle.
>>3881350
Practice more to stay in form, draw more consistently, and seek to understand the nature of your reasoning-- if you are doing fundamentals, that should not be lost in a day, if it is chances are good it's dunning kruger. Seek to understand your subject better, and your areas of weakness, focus on those, and strive to understand not just the form, but through and around the form.
>>3881385
Whoa, improper attitude! Ask not what Gi can draw for you, but what you can draw from Gi!
>>3881530
We've all been there anon, push through it. rember, there is no "correct way" in art, you should be using exercises and building fundamentals to improve the art you want to make, not the other way around. Keep struggling, or look for helpful advice in videos or something-- I think that feeling comes from a lack of understand. Keep at it and it will click for you eventually.
>>3881560
You're my hero and I will desperately try to leech some of that spiritual fortitude for focus and stamina out of you like a vampire potbelly goblin
>>3881595
oh shit is Lilo from Lilo and Stitch. Wow you must be one sick puppy.
>>3881597
Grow a pair, just tell some random hot thot you want to draw her like one of your French girls.
>>3881658
Pretend you're a photographer and she's a model. Cheese it up. Act the fucking part man, chicks dig that shit-- they'll eat it up if you can get them to give you the time of day, and being the vainglorious creatures they are, that you are gratifying their egos, they'll love it.

[Anonymous No.3882626]

I gotta stop smoking cause my body is fucking wrecked but it's the only fun I have while drawing/studying

[Anonymous No.3882640]

>>3881354
>>3881385
NGMI, not ever not reincarnated not 5th dimension, nothing ever

[Anonymous No.3882717]

>>3882640
shut up

[Anonymous No.3882721]

>>3882640
Harsh and truthpilled

[Anonymous No.3882730]

>>3881658
Get them to watch a tv or something in the background, people go quite still. That's what jana schirmer did with her portraits in pretty sure

[Anonymous No.3882740]

>>3881787
Physical training. Like at least 2 hours a day of working yourself to exhaustion.

[Anonymous No.3882743]

>>3882740
This. Also get plenty of sunlight and drink whole milk. Eat a fruit. Start playing an instrument. Cut out sugar and carbs. Eat more fiber. Drink tea. Start a martial-industrial band.

[Anonymous No.3882754]

>>3882640
Wew, no more daily grind for me then. Thank you anon, now I can finally move on with my life.

[Anonymous No.3882755]

>>3881327
I am using an Ipad, apple pencil, and procreate to learn instead of pencil and paper

[Anonymous No.3882791]

>>3881327
I found out this girl who rejected me in high school is a really popular artist with hella followers. Most of you probably even know her. I'd put money on it considering she has more followers and youtube subscriptions than the shit I follow. After a million failed life paths, I recently got back into art but I feel hyper extra mega depressed and all my art is shit. I'm basically anxious to even look at this board. When I inevitably fail this path of life too, which board should I anhero on?

[Anonymous No.3882797]

>>3882791
Everyones art was shit at one point, its about pushing through it to actually get to a point where it isn't anymore. Picasso did not come out of the womb knowing jack shit.

Also your problems sound like they derive from bad planning skills, focus on upkeeping essentials like rent, water, electricity, internet, groceries, ect. as a priority before things like art. Maybe start doing things that can help with depression as a side effect like working out (nothing insane but just something to stay healthier do not even have to use weights or go to a gym if you do not want). If you want another art form to practice that helps with all of this learn to cook! Plenty of room for artistry, is cheaper and is healthier and potential companies love a good cook. The way to a girl's (or whoever else you are in to) heart is through their stomach.

[Anonymous No.3882799]

>>3882797
companies like good company, as in friends and potential partners.

[Anonymous No.3882802]

>>3882797
Thanks man.

[Anonymous No.3882822]

>>3881787
>suicide is a sin
No. You are just too afraid of the pain.
>I wish I was never born.
If you think about it, you were brought into this world without your consent. And the price for wanting to leave is depression and excruciating pain. Of course if you want to leave this shitshow you didnt sign up for, people think you are the problem.

[Anonymous No.3882827]

>>3882791
Why do you talk like that?

[Anonymous No.3882830]

friendly reminder suicide doesnt have to be painless. See charcoal method.

[Anonymous No.3882834]

>>3882830
Do you mean painful?

[Anonymous No.3882837]

>>3882834
well, shit. guess I have to kms now

[Anonymous No.3882839]

>>3882830
The problem is if you somehow survive you will end up with toasted brain and cant finish the job you started. You will become dependent on others. Use something lethal with no chance of survival

[Anonymous No.3882845]

>>3882822
Friendly reminder that there is no logical selfless arguments for having a child. It's impossible to have a child for the childs sake, since there was no one that needed being born in the first place. You can only have a child by accident or for your own personal reasons.

[Anonymous No.3882846]

>>3882791
>I found out this girl who rejected me in high school is a really popular artist with hella followers. Most of you probably even know her. I'd put money on it considering she has more followers and youtube subscriptions than the shit I follow.

Who is it

[Anonymous No.3882863]

>>3882797
>The way to a girl's (or whoever else you are in to) heart is through their stomach.
Can confirm. That and a funny light hearted personality. I don't care if you're fat, but you have to be a good company instead of people constantly listening to your pity stories

[Anonymous No.3882871]

>>3882827
???
>>3882846
I really want to say but I can't. She'd know instantly who I was. Tell ya what, guess correctly and I'll let you know if you're right.

[Anonymous No.3882902]

>>3882839
not everyone has access to a gun or a reliable dealer of "N". If I had a gun, I wouldnt resort to charcoal method.

[Anonymous No.3882918]

>>3882845
Friendly reminder that this equation requires valuing existence at zero or negative, and in saying this you have a duty to those that do still value existence(like children ironically) to immediately uncreate yourself. If for no other reason than to prove your point.

[Anonymous No.3882983]

>>3882918
not that anon but why would I waste my time on a kid when I have art

[Anonymous No.3882999]

I hate my art.
I am doing my utmost to improve every day but with my current skill level I hate what I make (MOSTLY people - they all come out looking hideous)
I hate that I hate my art. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Anonymous No.3883011]

It's been a week since I've been able to draw due to an inflammation in my arm leading to a compacted ulnar nerve and it's getting pretty depressing, I basically come here to draw vicariously at this point.

[Anonymous No.3883015]

>>3882999
We're in the same boat anon. Gotta quickly get to a point where what you produce looks decent, at least!

[Anonymous No.3883017]

>>3883015
Yeah that's exactly what I'm after, dying to really get creative and design but I know after far, far too many years of avoiding fundies it's what I really need. less hit or miss work, and construction for imagination and creativity. Really fucked myself over with my retarded concepts on shit before I found ic.
I hope you get there real quick friend

[Anonymous No.3883031]

I confess that i have been creating art just for the money. I cater to "normies" and do what ever makes me money.

[Anonymous No.3883231]

>>3883011
Holy shit, are you me? I screwed up my arm terribly and have been going mad sitting here not drawing.

[Anonymous No.3883269]

vent threads are for NGMIs and crabs LOL. Fuck off to your Discord hugboxes.

[Anonymous No.3883299]

>>3882559
We get it you have a keyboard

[Anonymous No.3883301]

>>3883269
thank you for venting

[Anonymous No.3883303]

Sunsets only happen once a day

[Anonymous No.3883321]

>>3883303
scawy cat

[Anonymous No.3883333]

>>3881327
no matter what im drawing it never come out as i want it to look like in my head, draw from memory? nope not possible i just cant seem to fucking do it. all i wanna do is just draw some characters is that too hard to ask ugh. it' seems really simple but even while having this tablet for 3 years i've gotten pretty much nowhere.

[Anonymous No.3883345]

>>3883011
You have 4 limbs anon.

[Anonymous No.3883354]

>>3883345
pretty sure humans only have 1 limb, stop spreading fake news

[Anonymous No.3883374]

>>3882830
You again? God dammit stop braging about it and just do it, or do you get off to people trying to stop you?

[Anonymous No.3883395]

I wish I was a woman

Not because of some trannyfaggotry, but because I'm envious of how easy they have it. I'm envious of the fact that my older sister studied art and had it all paid for by my family while anything less than an a STEM was unacceptable for me to take.
I'm envious of the fact that she studied art in highschool while I had to take math/sciences
I'm envious of the fact that while she was encouraged to draw from a young age I was forced to play sports/football because hey that's what boys do.
I'm envious of the fact that she was guided through her art studies by teachers and had time to explore different mediums while all I can do is read books, copy other artists, and hope to god I'm not unknowingly developing bad habits

One thing I'm not jealous of is her skill, although she has 300k+ followers and is by far more skilled than me she's definitely plateaued, and at a level way lower than a number (of the really good) people here.

[Anonymous No.3883397]

>>3883395
>tfw no onee-san to teach you about art, carry you on social medias and use as a model for figure drawing then get rewarded with a blowjob if you did a good work
bros...

[Anonymous No.3883401]

>>3883395
Be thankful we hit the genetic lottery and don't bleed in between our legs every fucking month. Quit being a Vagina about it and start learning, you don't need to be coddled.

[Anonymous No.3883403]

>>3883395
Excuses. Kim Jung Gi's parents also didn't want him to do art but he left them no choice. He also played football AND drew.

[Anonymous No.3883408]

>>3883395
You only have to not give a shit about what people think about it. I'm a NEET in my 30s and I live with my family, but I make art all day anyway. I only care about drawing.

[Anonymous No.3883409]

>>3883408
Based

[Anonymous No.3883426]

>>3883401
>hit the genetic lottery
Many genetic diseases are naturally prevented by people having a pair of each chromosome. You'd have to inherit the disease from both of your parents for it to show symptoms on you.
Except if you have a Y chromosome and the disease lives in the now unpaired X. In this way, being born male makes you significantly more vulnerable to these diseases, making it the actual literal factual exact opposite of what you suggest.
It's a well known fact that testosterone shortens one's life, but a study done on mice suggests that the Y chromosome does the same, separately. Mice with ovaries and XY chromosomes die faster than mice with ovaries and XX chromosomes, both outliving mice with XY chromosomes and testes.
Factually, the Y chromosome is toxic.

If you want to play the gender wars game, list actual benefits of being born male.

[Anonymous No.3883457]

>>3883426
>list actual benefits of being born male
not that anon but sticking my dick into things feels nice
I don't know if there are other advantages

[Anonymous No.3883470]

All I'm able to feel is envy sadness and anger. I can't make myself feel happy, every time I get a glimmer of self-confidence all I can do is try my hardest to be miserable again by comparing my work to someone else's or put in doubt my intellectual capacity by reminding myself how long I've been doing this without noticeable change.
I feel so alone all the time and so numb. People scare me. But their validation is all I want, and I feel like I'm not even good enough to receive it by being so mediocre and sad all the time, people don't want to waste their energies on someone who doesn't even try. I want to die and stop being so fucking annoying.

[Anonymous No.3883480]

>>3883457
You should try a short regimen of HRT if you want to experience proper sexual pleasure.
Slap an estrogen patch on your ass or use a spray. The difference estrogen makes is like night and day, it made me realize male sexuality is basically just a cycle of frustation and relief.
I'm being serious here. I wouldn't want you to live without ever experiencing an extended orgasm, all you need is the right hormones in your body.

[Anonymous No.3883482]

>>3883480
wat

[Anonymous No.3883487]

>>3883482
He wants you to troon out.

[Anonymous No.3883488]

>>3881348
you can draw other things besides women?

[Anonymous No.3883490]

>>3881349
i do scribble on my sketchbook for upcoming works but that's it.

[Anonymous No.3883496]

>>3883395
anon please, don't be a girl.

[Anonymous No.3883497]

>>3881327
femanon here

i've been drawing girls for way too long as of late. i try to hard to draw dudes but i get so awkward like i have crush on them...

[Anonymous No.3883498]

>>3883497
I have a problem with role playing too uwu

[Anonymous No.3883500]

>>3883395
I wish I was a little girl

[Anonymous No.3883509]

>>3883488
my women are pretty bad
I don't draw people a lot in general

[Anonymous No.3883601]

>>3883497
>not drawing qtbois BECAUSE you have a crush on them

NGMI, girlfriend

[Anonymous No.3883708]

Days go by too fucking fast. Today I didn't even draw, I just did research for a thing and gathered reference. I might even have to buy a book. I can't possibly take on more than one project at a time. I'll have to cut down on 4chan probably but I have absolutely no social interaction outside of this website and I'm afraid I'll go crazy without shitposting a bit.

[Anonymous No.3883719]

>>3883708
You think that's bad? I haven't drawn since February.

[Anonymous No.3883743]

>>3883708
Hah
Same.

[Anonymous No.3883789]

>>3883395
I'm the opposite.

I hate how women are biologically and mentally inferior to men, and how they almost always get special snowflake treatment. It makes me feel like I lost the genetic lottery.
For example, no matter how hard a woman strength trains, she'll still probably get her ass handed to her by a guy who's in decent shape (who didn't even need to do half the training she went through). His bone/muscle density can never be replicated by a female.

And then theres how the female brain is heavily disposed to emotional stimuli and social dependency: it's why there's never been any true matriarchal societies in human history.
The 'strong independent woman' is a total meme once you find out how truly dependent they are on men. Look at shit like the 50 Shades phenomenon, or the most common careers chosen by women. All they want is to get pseudo-raped by a rich guy who will possessively 'claim' them and 'protect' them, while they will never pursue a career in stem or try achieving anything that will objectively benefit society. Whenever they're not getting a useless degree in gender studies, they're fantasizing about being a submissive 'slave' who's doted on with money and attention. It's incredibly pathetic.

It's also worth noting that psychological manipulation/abuse is a mostly female-dominated phenomenon, and it's aguably a lot worse than any physical harm caused by a male. Think about any time you've seen drama/gossip, there's a high chance it was started by (or heavily involves) women.
It's ironic because once the woman is on the receiving end of mental/verbal abuse (even if it's just average shitposts/bants), she'll cave into her own emotional oversensitivity and screech about how 'mean' that person is.

I'd never consider doing transfaggotry, since it would be a major waste of time/money. I know the results of testoterone will never result in a body/mind that's even close to a real biological male. I'm left with just trying not to think about it.

[Anonymous No.3883828]

>>3883789
If you drew as good as girls can they wouldn’t make more money on Patreon than you

[Anonymous No.3883871]

>>3883789
I used to think this for a while, I thought I'd never get gud at perspective/foreshortening/dynamic angle drawing because my dumb female brain isn't equipped to think in 3d as well as a man's.
But I've practice and practiced, and really forced my brain to think about it every chance I get. Now the main appeal of my art is exactly that. If I keep going down this path, I'll live my dream. Actually, I already am living my dream. I just want to improve. It's addicting really.

You don't actually sound like you're applying this to art, however. shitposter-kun.

[Anonymous No.3883876]

>>3883789
It makes me smile to know that I, a yucky girl, have achieved more in STEM than you can even dream to. Go grind more boxes sweetie

[Anonymous No.3883903]

>>3883789
Just be a hot girl and all your problems are solved.

[Anonymous No.3883919]

>>3883871
please please post your work I’m in the exact same boat, I want to draw the cool shit like guys do and think in 3D and git gud at perspective and all that. i need to see that another girl can do it

[Anonymous No.3883929]

>>3883395
Yeah I get you in some way. I too sometimes wish I was a girl. I'm envious of how beautiful the female form is.
But then I remember that no matter what my gender is, I'd still be stuck down here in this shit world. I wish I could start over in someplace that isn't as grey and ugly, where everyone isn't as flawed and deranged.
Deep down, I know escapism ruined me, in that way, I keep seeking more and more of it to keep dreaming forever, but you can never really get away from reality.
I never vented about this anywhere, it's weird to talk about it.

[Anonymous No.3883931]

I have litterally no friends, and i mean literally no discord no facebook shit no friends
I was having a shitty night and the closest I could find to a human interaction was this fucking thread
I feel that now at 25 I have groomed myself to not know how to form new friendships and I'm too comfortable being alone.
I wasn't embarassed to go outside before, I wasn't feeling so fucking anxious all the time
I wasn't thinking about my hair or some stupid shit
I feel that isolation is killing me physically and mentally

80% of the time I'm neutral sometime I laugh at a video, or a post
20% I want to die

Sometimes maybe for a week I'll be euphoric and happy But EVERY TIME I come back to that fucking state

I'm getting better at art and I have a medium following so thats cool

[Anonymous No.3883932]

>>3883929
There's only one solution for you my friend, kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.3883939]

>>3883876
>t. larping tranny
youll never pass

[Anonymous No.3883941]

>>3883929
>I wish I could start over in someplace that isn't as grey and ugly, where everyone isn't as flawed and deranged.
The one reconciliation is that you're flawed and deranged, too. So you're in good company.

[Anonymous No.3883945]

>>3883919
>>3883871
There's no difference in the female/male brain when it comes to art related skills. With enough effort and practice , one can actually improve and git gud
t. girl(girl)

[Anonymous No.3883948]

>>3883939
I bet it really triggers your inferiority complex to know that a biological woman has a better brain for science than you do, huh? So much for the 'benefits' of being male.

[Anonymous No.3883950]

>>3883919
Really don't wanna post my stuff here since /ic/ is too bully.
Post email and I'll talk to ya.

[Anonymous No.3883956]

>>3883932
Thanks for the pointer, but I gotta finish my stories first. Then I'll consider it.
>>3883941
Wise words, anon.

[Anonymous No.3883959]

>>3883929

Not gonna lie. I've felt this way too. Still...I think we men tend to overestimate how good women have it.

I mean yes being a woman is awesome, and very easy as long as you're

1.-Pretty
2.-Young

Men that want to be girls think they would be like those instagram thots. In reality, you would be one of those ugly bitches you ignore.

Old and/or ugly women aren't that privileged as you think.

[Anonymous No.3883997]

>draw 1 NSFW image
>500 likes and bookmarks
>still getting likes periodically
>more likes than everything else combined
It wasn't even porn. I dont mind that people like it, it was just 2 naked girls cuddling in bed. It just feels kinda weird that just because I labeled it R18 its getting so much more attention. I doubt anyone is even getting off to it, I only labeled it r18 because I erased their clothes because it looked like shit.

[Anonymous No.3884007]

>>3883470
Don't be so harsh on yourself frog chan.

[Anonymous No.3884009]

I'm getting frustrated, I have been doing art for a long time and I'm still /beg level.

People in real life tell me I'm smart.... But in art and drawing I'm a huge brainlet... and it sucks.

[Anonymous No.3884039]

>>3884007
Someone has to do it
Nice Sparkling boy

[Anonymous No.3884041]

I feel like I've read and drawn bridgman and hampton 5 times over, but I can never properly construct or visualize things.

I have Norling for perspective too, but nothing ever sticks in my impatient retard brain.

[Anonymous No.3884046]

>>3883950
[e-mail]

[Anonymous No.3884051]

>>3881349
Who gives a fuck. Just draw. Traditionalfags are such whiny bitches man

[Anonymous No.3884056]

>>3883929
>>3883959
>not because of some trannyfaggotry
being a pretty woman isn't going to make my art any better, what I was talking about was more of a cultural thing.
The women here are coddled and taken care of by the family, while the boys have to impress the entire neighborhood and earn all the money for their parents when they grow up. That's why she had her art degree paid for.
>>3883397
funny you say thay, I've just given up on asking her for advice because she's horrible at giving it. It's all "looks nice" and never points out anything, good or bad.
>>3883401
I'd take bleeding between my legs for a fucking free art education, not spending 2 years in the military, and being coddled and encouraged throughout my life
>>3883789
Your text applies in no way to art, and if you think it does (theme of female inferiority) then all I need to say is Frazetta called JCJ "The greatest painter alive".
>>3883403
>Excuses
Or, you know, venting

[Anonymous No.3884173]

>>3883395
>>3884056
I'm a dude and had it opposite. I was that kid that could draw, was always encouraged by my family/teachers/classmates. My 2 sisters on the otherhand liked drawing but weren't good at it, they weren't encouraged like I was. I'm guessing what really happened is you weren't that bad, but in contrast to your sister you probably looked talentless and as though you should focus on doing a regular job, or you just didn't draw as much as your sister, showed no signs of interest in art and now you're just a whiny cunt.

[Anonymous No.3884216]

>>3884056
>all I need to say is Frazetta called JCJ "The greatest painter alive".
jcj was a dude though, what's your point

[Anonymous No.3884218]

i confess you should piss razor bladez more often :drip4sale

[Anonymous No.3884383]

I've enjoyed drawing since I was a kid and back then I enjoyed it but ever since I learned that I was actually some retard copying anime images and everyone else was better than me I've felt terrible. Drawing always depresses me because I'm so shit. Even practicing boxes or shapes looks bad. Everyone else's practice actually looks nice. What do I do?

[Anonymous No.3884390]

>>3884383
Suck it up and keep practicing til you get gud. Everyone starts out feeling angry and frustrated

[Anonymous No.3884392]

is drawing nsfw the only way to make a living out of weebs? i need the money

[Anonymous No.3884404]

>>3884056
>I've given up on asking her for advice because she's horrible at giving it. It's all "looks nice" and never points out anything, good or bad.
Maybe that's exactly what you need. Encouragement to just draw more. Your sister sounds nice

[Anonymous No.3884405]

>>3883959
I get you but I don't even think woman have it any easier at all, they just have a different set of issues to deal with. I just have trouble accepting my own body and wish I was born as someone else far different from what I am. I said that I was envious of women's beauty, how they look, how they sound compared to me. It's all very superficial.

>>3884392
Get a job if you need the money, even smut isn't a sure way to get some. But if you had to make money with art only, then yes, it's the fastest way.

[Anonymous No.3884406]

>>3881327
I haven't drawn in 2 months

[Anonymous No.3884462]

>>3884390
Really? Everyone? I'm already 22 can I honestly still make it?

[Anonymous No.3884472]

>>3884462
No, that's way too old.

[Anonymous No.3884481]

>>3884462
oof, sorry grandpa you're never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.3884488]

>Tell me your sins, your frustrations and secrets.
Sin: I draw furry bara shit bcuz it's ez bucks
Frustration: Even though I have advanced knowledge as artist, I really sucks at values
Secret: I have a long collection of drawings of my ex as a trap, you know, sailor clothes, lencery etc.

[Anonymous No.3884565]

>>3881327
>Tell me your sins, your frustrations and secrets.
i feel like i don't actually like drawing and am just fucking stupid
i don't draw enough and often have no energy for art, on top of having a perfectionist ego
i have a high standard for myself that i feel i'm never gonna meet, because it doesn't matter how much you want it if you don't put the work in.
i truly envy people like algenpfleger that can just dedicate a whole day to doing art, over and over for such a long time, i can't even do two hours every day.

[Anonymous No.3884571]

>>3884488
Post link to hot bara

[Anonymous No.3884665]

>>3884462
suck
it
up

[Anonymous No.3884889]

>>3884462
I'm at the verge of killing myself right now and I'm 24. Yes, everyone. Suck it up.

[Anonymous No.3884893]

>>3884571
Sorry bro, but the furry gang is going to cut my balls if they find out that I'm not currently a furry and I do art to get money out of them

[Anonymous No.3884906]

>>3881787

Read some stuff by St Teresa, specially The Interior Castle. Look for self-knowledge.

Also exercising is great as >>3882740 suggested

>>3881964
You have to think of them like balls in holes (in Steve Huston's words) instead of flat shapes

take a look a this, not need to watch the whole thing, but he talks a bit about it in the beginning and in about 2 hours in https://youtu.be/uXeKuFECtpM

>>3882064
Have patience, anon, keep grinding. Get out of your comfort zone and draw babies, old people, whatever and make sure to keep studying.

>>3882285
I noticed you anon :)

Now on a serious side, don't be like that too much, it's like when you want to impress a girl and end up doing dumb stuff you'll think of as cringy later. Expect nothing from this world and things will be better. (although I'm sure you know all of this and is just venting)

[Anonymous No.3884919]

>>3882740
>2 hours a day of working yourself to exhaustion.
do you have a recommended program for this anon?

[Anonymous No.3884963]

I've been drawing a lot of porn lately, but because of this I jerked off almost 20 times in 3 days, what the absolute fuck?

[Anonymous No.3884981]

I'm really starting to fucking hate one of my artist "friends" because he constantly gets sucked off for his mediocre-at-best art. he acts like he loves criticism but he never fucking listens to it; i gave him feedback once about his shitty shading and he got incredibly passive-agressive over it and completely ignored my advice, i've seen him do it with others too.
I think my art's sub-par at best but i can tell it's better than his shit overall. Yet i always get fucking ignored by everyone else in our group. it's fucking infuriating and i feel like total shit.
I know i'm being pretty petty as fuck about it but it's frustrating because of how much of a suck-up hypocritical fuckhead he is, he's one of those artists who puts on a fake overly "positive" persona as well and i fucking hate it and i wish people would talk to me about art shit instead of him constantly getting wanked off. I know I shouldn't be jealous of his success and whatever but fuck me it fucking hurts.

[Anonymous No.3885002]

im gonna make a bunch of money and then kill myself. hopefully he likes it.

[Anonymous No.3885055]

I want to stop letting other people and myself down.

[Anonymous No.3885114]

>>3884893
Can you at least tell me if you're at least like semi famous, is there a chance i've jerked off to your stuff before ?

[Anonymous No.3885136]

pretty sure my comic is way too fucking ambitious, especially for a first major project. i love working on it and i cannot wait to release it, but i'm really worried about taking forever to finish it and i'm worried it'll either get no reception or people'll think it's shit or it's shittier than i thought. i'm not expecting much of an audience because webcomics barely get any traction unless you get super fucking lucky, but i know it's still gonna hurt when it happens even though i'm prepared for it

[Anonymous No.3885200]

Anyone else get unnecessarily anxious after they upload art on social media? I just uploaded something to Twitter and all I could think about is how no one is gonna like it and that I'm garbage, even though I know that's not the case. Just one minute in and I already desperately want to delete it again, and the only thing that stopped me from doing so was that some people had already retweeted and commented
Amyone got any tips on how to deal with this? My only solution so far has been to go to sleep immediately after uploading something

[Anonymous No.3885222]

>>3884981
wow its almost like artistic skill doesn count for as much as you thought it did
if u like u can take solace in the fact that one day he will no doubt suffer for his characteristic failings

[Anonymous No.3885266]

>>3884488
>Sin: I draw furry bara shit bcuz it's ez bucks
whenever I check the tags on Twitter I always see this horrible furry bara with 3000+ likes

[Anonymous No.3885274]

>>3883997
I made one piece of fanart years ago of a trending character in a swimsuit, for the sole pupose of getting views, I wasn't interested in the thing nor the character and it showed in the fanart, and it got more notes than everything else I made combined, including my current work which is 20 times better.

[Anonymous No.3885289]

>>3884963
I do porn for myself and it takes me days to finish the drawings because I end up chain masturbating to the WIP.

[Anonymous No.3885294]

>>3883408
wise anon
once you stop giving a shit about other people's accomplishments you can start making your own

[Anonymous No.3885304]

>>3885200
>all I could think about is how no one is gonna like it and that I'm garbage
At least yours get rt's and comments.
I get my customary 4 likes from people that know me and one reply from a friend who says "cute" on every single post I make and that's it.

[Anonymous No.3885306]

I've been working as a security guard and it seems like the perfect set up because I get to draw 6-8 hours a day and I get paid for it.

I haven't been making as much progress as I would of hoped however and it feels like im just spinning the wheels.I think need some actual guidance to push through the plateau.
You guys think I should maybe try attending the watts atelier? its about an hour drive and I can learn from a professional while keeping my job.
Or should I commit fully and do some dumb shit like study art in Florence?

[Anonymous No.3885406]

>>3885306
If you can afford it and the atelier method he uses is compatible with your goals then go for it. With art I think it's good to have a motivator early on for you to spend your time wisely instead of blowing a bunch of your free time with nothing to show for it. Some of the best progress I remember making while drawing was taking 2-3 classes and working 30 hours a week. When I stopped working to be a full-time student my drawing slowed tremendously even though I technically had more free time, it was more free time for all leisure that wasn't art.

[Anonymous No.3885423]

I made a few pages of porn comics today
First time I do it, I already made some porn and nudity but this is just straight up hardcore shit, there is nothing artistic in this, only camal lust
This is so weird but also very hot and I think I am a natural at it
(I am not going to share)

[Anonymous No.3885430]

>>3885200
Yup. I get palpilations and stomach aches every time I post something art related. If I post at night it gets so bad I just cant fall asleep and when I do I woke up startled feeling like I just made the worse decision of my life.

[Anonymous No.3885498]

>>3885406
funny how it seems limitations always breed innovation. Ill try watts out, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.3885549]

>>3884919
Running - 100 meter sprint, 100 meter jog for one hour. Running like this is the best for you endurance and lungs training. You'll need it.

Plus standard excercises - push ups, sit ups and so on. You don't need anything special just do a balanced set working all the muscles.

Say sit ups, push ups, crunches. The thing is each day you must do at least one more repetion than the day before. As it would get eaisier you may get more fancy with your excercises.

[Anonymous No.3885555]

Lately I just feel empty. I'm not depressed, but the world feels gray. I haven't drawn in a couple of weeks, so maybe that's why.

[Anonymous No.3885557]

>>3885423
Then fuck you anon. Fuck you as hard as in that comic you did.

[Anonymous No.3885610]

>>3885423
>camal lust

What the fuck is "camal" lust?

Did you mean CARNAL?

Jesus fuck, dude.

[Anonymous No.3885613]

>>3885555
draw right this very second anon
don't reply, just go draw. I believe in you.
Feeling miserable myself but it's with my lack of visible progress and general depression. Feels bad, man.

[Anonymous No.3885642]

>>3885002
Who are you talking about? Please do not kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.3885699]

>>3881805
I’m so sorry anon. I wish you the best.

[Anonymous No.3885703]

>>3881597
What country are you in?

[Anonymous No.3885723]

>>3885610
Phoneposting typo
I meant carnal

[Anonymous No.3885802]

>>3881327
I am not playing to marry, ever have kids, or risk it. I am afraid of change and responsibilities because they might take away the time I have for drawing

[Anonymous No.3885810]

I actually kind of miss video games, they were really fun when I was a kid and a lot of the stuff I remember had a ton of love put into them. Ace Attorney, Layton, Okami, Ghost-trick, all wonderful games I can't really enjoy anymore.
All I end up thinking about is the art and how I can't draw like that, I get this sickening feeling in my stomach from envy and wanting to draw and I end up just dropping them.

I've barely touched a video game in the past 2 years
Just feels like the train passed that station and it's not coming back, I'm still moving forward but it's a bit melancholic

[Anonymous No.3885819]

>>3885557
You wouldn't like it anyway anon, it's a weird fetish that I will not name

[Anonymous No.3885821]

>>3885819
Could you at least give a small hint?

[Anonymous No.3885822]

>>3885821
too easily identified

[Anonymous No.3885825]

>>3885822
Understandable.

[Translatefag No.3885829]

>>3885114
Yes... Maybe, I usually be that 30% who does good bara shit, and I got a tons of likes and retweets.
>Pd: The reason why I did not leave this lying down (also the fucking money) is because I like to draw masculine anatomy, but I really dislike to see other artist's bara and all that yiff shit

>>3885266
Yea, I'm even in a telegram group, the idiots learn from tumblr images and those "how to draw" shits, and end up drawing legs longer than the thighs, inflating the muscles excessively to hide the details etc. In my case I follow a rigid learning, from Loomis to Vilppu etc. (Hogarth is very important to me also only for its dynamism) and when I want to correct somebody sketch their alarms are lit and prefer to do the classic "iz muh style" and there you have them uploading shit on twitter
I just followed the Pareto's law and the result was simple. The 20% of the porn that leaves a good tip is furry for two reasons, it is not simple to find good yiff shit on the internet and they love to see their fursonas being enslaved by the big dick of a dragon and they will pay anything to get it. If any weeb wants to see nsfw of his favorite character just needs to enter on some booru and voilá

[Anonymous No.3885835]

I pity the fools who can't start because they're still looking for the right path to follow.

[Anonymous No.3885864]

im a 31 yr old bum with no car job and certainly no gf. i still draw though. just gotta get back into putting in max hours cause i was severely depressed for a month (more than usual) and basically didnt do anything but lay in my bed while my normie roommates judge how much of a weirdo i am for not going out with them every weekend. at least i lost like 10lbs from fucking starvation.

[Anonymous No.3885878]

>>3881327
I tell beginners to practice their fundies because I know that’s what you’re supposed to do, but I’ve never even grinded fundies myself. Not like I personally have better advice for them—I’ve always practiced just by drawing a lot.

I hope it helps them but sometimes I wonder if it really will.

[Anonymous No.3885880]

>>3882871
fucking sakimichan

[Anonymous No.3885886]

I'm a shitter who can't stop tracing 3d models. I buy daz 3d models and different plugins so I can trace bodies more efficiently. I've always focused on drawing environments and backgrounds and it frustrates me how I've neglected learning anatomy. I've made a deal with the devil. The shit I've been posting with it has been recently reaching 1k likes on twitter and I'm getting nonstop commissions. One day I'm probably gonna get caught and it won't be pretty.

[Anonymous No.3885894]

>>3885886
>One day I'm probably gonna get caught and it won't be pretty.
Once you get famous you can get caught doing anything and it won't affect you. See Proko's kangaroo or that slimy russian guy who swipes.

[Anonymous No.3885932]

>>3885810
source of your pic's artist

[Anonymous No.3885939]

I just wish that tripfags from this board disappeared. They're absolute ngmis shitting up this site and if you think they're good in any way I wish you'd stop posting too.
>>3885886
How did you start getting commissions?>>3885555
Lack of interest sounds like depression. Start some physical activity to feel better and follow your passions.
>>3885864
You too would benefit from physical activity (well, everyone would). Good job on keeping drawing

[Anonymous No.3885962]

>>3885200
I have a post and forget policy. Once I upload something I don't see it until I'm posting something again. Turning off notifications helps.

[Anonymous No.3885966]

>>3881327
i hit a fucking wall. i thought i was finally starting to improve, but i woke up this morning, looked at last nights' wip, and i could clearly see ALLLLLL the holes in my skillset. i've been tricking myself into thinking anything ive ever made was decent. the only thing i can do now is start the grind again. fuck. why is it so hard to make it??

[Anonymous No.3885997]

What is the criteria for Twitter's "top" results algorithm? I see posts from days ago with 0 likes from people with 50 followers while to see my posts you have to click "latest".
This is so fucking annoying.

[Anonymous No.3886047]

I just want to draw the way Tyson Hesse did during his Boxer Hockey days. I want that to be my style, but all I can fucking draw and sell is porn. I want to be known for drawing cool shit.
But I live in the middle of nowhere with no real transportation and have to rely on drawing furry and shota for money. And with the way the internet is acting up I'm fairly certain that the latter is going to become banned in one way or another. I can't reconcile with the fact that I can find good success in drawing porn, because it's not the art that I always wanna do.
The worst part is I've completely forgotten how to draw safe for work shit, like action scenes or friendly hugs.
How do I fix this and get over it? I joke about being able to make more money doing this than working at a walmart. But I don't feel good about it. I just want to be happy with my own success!

[Anonymous No.3886343]

I feel like my only art friend is mad at me? She went to art school and is now jobless and is always incredibly upset about her nonexistent following on social media, despite never posting art anywhere. Ever since I've started getting a bigger following on twitter, she's been incredibly bitchy and sensitive when talking to me and takes days to respond to the simplest messages. Am I just imagining that she's jealous?

[Anonymous No.3886359]

I feel like i cant draw female body at all and its driving me crazy. This shit doesnt make any sense, is this the biggest downside of being a virgin?

[Anonymous No.3886364]

I find David choe's level of wealth and fame frustrating when you consider that this is how he paints cars. This is me being nice, mods.

[Anonymous No.3886579]

>>3881327
Been drawing all my life and started digital art a few years ago. Got a tablet with a screen and I'm making more and more. I constantly run into these questions, such as "Is this what I want to do in my life?" The career thing is what's hitting me. My field of work isn't even art at all, and I always worry that if I want to be an artist, I have to risk being paid less. Even worse, I consider the fact that I contemplate if I'm even happy with what I'm doing. It's like it highlights something in life I've discovered. There's money, and there's happiness. Seems like you can only have one.

Long story short, I'm hard on my own shit and it makes me question whether or not being an artist is worth it, considering it's not a STEM field. It also makes me question what I want to do with the rest of my time before I get old- because having a well paying job that crushes the soul seems equally as depressing.

[Anonymous No.3886917]

>>3886343
She's crabbing at you anon. Stay away or she'll suck your gains

[Anonymous No.3886925]

>>3886343
I was about to tell you that you should address the issue sensibly and try to let her open up about any issues she might have and let her vent, but then I remembered how women actually work. So let her be a bitch and be assertive when she bitches at you, possibly brag about your success in her presence and she'll probably fall in love.

[Anonymous No.3886978]

>>3886579
wow dude stop trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. "Oh boo hoo, I'm drawing more than ever, and am making money-- my life is so hard!" At the end of the day, you gotta do what you love and what makes you happy. At some point, you have to make the judgement call, and decide that that is what you will be doing. Of course, there's no rush-- you can always quit your job to pursue other opportunities, then go back to your old job, or find a new one. Even when you decide, you still have a malleable future laid out before you. The last thing you should do is box yourself in, feel that you must do one thing forever instead of another thing. Throw your whole self into whatever it is you choose to do, but never feel trapped into it.

[Anonymous No.3886987]

>>3886978
Personally, I would rather be on my own time, making my own money, reaping 100% of my own labor. That to me is what makes life enjoyable and meaningful-- not being the heel of a corporation and a bunch of useless assholes I have to work with. If I make less, it will still be the best, because I'm free. And if I am making less, it is entirely because of my own effort, or lack thereof. Being able to do what you love, or enjoy, is another boon which, to me, makes it the only life worth living.

[Anonymous No.3887105]

i don't have friends and thats killing me

[Anonymous No.3887169]

I love the rain, I love it so much
I just flew back home after being gone for almost a year and was told it rained a few days ago, keep in mind it only rains here like twice a year.

Was a bit upset, but woke up today to find it lightly showering. Just sat outside and sipped some warm tea.

[Anonymous No.3887175]

>>3887169
comfy post

[Anonymous No.3887205]

>>3887175
I remember reading this chapter, I didn't cry but it really felt like I was, and I don't really know why.

One day, I really hope I can make something that makes someone else feel the same way

[Anonymous No.3887620]

>>3886925
I'd rather die then have her get closer to me in any way. I'll probably cut her out of my life at some point during the year, since it's just not enjoyable to talk to her anymore.
I know she has depression, but every time I try to mention getting therapy, she just goes fucking mad and I'm not interested in having someone who refuses to get help in my life

[Anonymous No.3887623]

I legit want to kill myself right now and I don't feel like drawing.
I wish I could just draw anyway and just never stop 24/7, I'm already so fucking old and useless and I should somehow compress 10+ years of drawing into my daily routine to catch up with the better younger artists I see everywhere, but I'm a fucking depressed trainwreck and I can't even lift a pencil when I feel like this. I'm such a fucking piece of shit. I should delete all my embarrassing garbage artwork and off myself as long as I have some dignity left.

[Anonymous No.3887663]

>>3881520
was exactly what i thought lol

[Anonymous No.3887711]

>doing Keys to Drawing
>get to the Project 1 F/Mechanical Objects
>get stuck because my restatements look like shit and feel like I pussied out at certain parts

[Anonymous No.3887758]

>>3886579
stem is a meme, don’t give in to the pretentious stem superiority that people have and just do the shit you like, as long as you get to live a comfy life with how much you think you will be paid. the ‘i like art but it’s not stem!??!?’ is on here like every thread

[Anonymous No.3887777]

Since I started with my personal project, I've been procrastinating. Probably due to fear of failure. It's so dumb, I have no problems doing commissions, but when it comes to my own stuff...
On one hand, I'm eager to draw it and on the other I just can't get myself to start. Everything is planned out and ready to go, so all I need to do is just draw. The style I've chosen is super simple as well, so I just don't get why I'm fearful instead of happy. Maybe because it's something real, something important to me, unlike studies or commissions.
I was working toward this for years and now that I have the skills and resources and to do it, I'm rather wasting my time???

[Anonymous No.3887789]

>>3887623
I'd recommend not to talk shit about yourself. It sounds silly, but constantly telling yourself you're garbage affects you a lot and is just demotivating in the long run. You don't gotta praise yourself, but just realize that getting stuck with your thoughts like that is counter-productive. It's incredibly hard at first, and it won't work every time, but it will work, as long as you don't give up.
I wish you the best of luck

[Anonymous No.3887797]

>>3887623
Don't let those zoomershit artists get to you man, 10+ years ago we didn't have the resources we have today. People used to not freely share info just so they could stay ahead of the pack. Something you should have by now that'll give you an edge over younger artists is the dedication to the craft.
There is no good reason to off yourself, we're all going to die eventually. You're just stressed out, you need to walk away for a bit. Or you need to change what you do. Just go nuts for a bit, you wanna die anyways, what is there to be afraid of? Do something differet, be someone new.
>>3887777
>Probably due to fear of failure
Have you considered that it might just be a fear of success? Because with success comes change. Just believe in your own work man. You're probably thinking no one will like it, but people will like it so long as you like it. Maybe cut down on media consumption, it's like junk food for self satisfaction. "I wanna see something cool." Rather than making something cool you go out and find something cool and you rob your brain of that reward. Try staying off of the internet for a while and you'll probably get more done.

[Anonymous No.3887823]

>>3887797
>>3887789
This is all bullshit. The truth is they're 10x better than me and I'm 10 years older. I had the same resources as them, I just started too late and I'm chasing an impossible dream. I'm just wasting my life doing this stupid shit, I'll never be good enough within a reasonable time. I don't even have the mental strength to work steadily every day. I just slept till 6PM today instead of drawing. I'm almost tempted to go back to sleep again because I don't feel like drawing, why am I even trying to make an illustration when it's not going to look 1/10th as good as some 19yo's sketch. I should just go rot in bed.

[Anonymous No.3887839]

>>3887823
Well art is not about being better than anyone. It's about enjoying yourself creatively. If you can't do that then maybe you should pick up a different hobby.

[Anonymous No.3887843]

>>3887839
This is another lie. If your work isn't presentable or professional level, it's not worth shit. I don't even like these people's subject matter or style but they're clearly a million times more skilled so they can do whatever. My shit isn't worth anything because I'm simply not good enough.
I love drawing and if I could quit I would have. I really really love it but it's impossible to make it when you're this old and you have to become orders of magnitude better just to make your work worth a watch, It's a lost cause.

[Anonymous No.3887861]

>>3887843
I just want to reset my brain and draw again but all I can do right now is drink and whine on 4chan. I want this shit to go away and just draw but I can't even think of something to draw, I just can't do it when I feel this low. And I have to fight this state of mind multiple times a week, it's so exhausting. I am normally so productive and I draw all day but then I take a casual look around and see how shit I am compared to other artists, I check their age and reality hits me like a truck. And it takes me a day to recover. I want off this rollercoaster. I can't possibly force myself to make art in a vacuum without ever exposing myself to other artists.
I secretly believe that one day I'll make it and I'll be able to say hey I started late, it was really hard and really painful but in the end I made it. But I really am just a delusional retard burning himself out for no reason chasing something that is just impossible. I'm a 70IQ cripple on a wheelchair who thinks he'll become an astronaut.
And fuck me I ranted again.

[Anonymous No.3887876]

>>3887823
>>3887843
dude, calm the fuck down, you're just making yourself feel worse.
See it like this: you can be a little bitch and keep sulking forever, or you get going and actually start drawing instead of telling people who're trying to help you that they're lying. How are you gonna get better by talking yourself down?

[Anonymous No.3887883]

>>3887797
Wow, your advice really helped! Never thought about procrastination this way. Idk how, but you really motivated me. I owe you one. Thanks, anon!

[Anonymous No.3887890]

>>3887843
>not drawing for yourself
>applying a false dichotomy to art
>cannot enjoy any art not "professional level"
>hurr durr I love drawing but I fucking wish I could quit derp durp
Thanks, Old man Crabapple. Get your fucking head checked out-- shit's all over the place.

[Anonymous No.3887897]

Fuck tangents. Just fuck them. They are so annoying, especially on comic pages. I'm getting better at paying attention to silhouette and shape, but still, I have to watch myself like a hawk to make sure lines aren't converging in a way that's unintentional and distracting. How can something so easily done fuck shit up so much?

[Anonymous No.3887898]

WHY ARE MY DRAWINGS ALWAYS SO FLAT

NO MATTER WHAT I DO I JUST DONT "GET" DEPTH AND DIMENSION

IVE READ PERSPECTIVE MADE EASY. IVE DRAWN BOXES. IVE DONE DYNAMIC DRAWING. EVERYTHING IS SO SHITTY AND STIFF AND LIFELESS

[Anonymous No.3887912]

>>3887898
pyw

[Anonymous No.3887914]

>try to paint skin colour
>any kinda skin, black, caucasian or even asian
>fuck it up regardless
Why the fuck is skin so hard to paint? What am I doing wrong? They just blend into the environment.

[Anonymous No.3887921]

>>3887898
Bad choices of values maybe...
>post your work

[Anonymous No.3887923]

>>3887912
I can only afford printer paper and shitty pencils, and never draw hard or dark lines. plus the glass over my phone camera is broken so everything is blurry. It's literally not even worth looking at, you cant see half of the little details or lack thereof, looks like spiderwebs on a white wall

[Anonymous No.3887926]

>>3887923
I dont see the point of trying to describe value and saturation with pencils either because it always smudges and blurs. I want to focus on construction perspective before trying shadows and shit. I dont want to waste time polishing a turd

[Anonymous No.3887928]

>>3887923
Post a thing shot with the notebloc app, if it's unintelligible at least you tried.

[Anonymous No.3887930]

>>3887914
what's your process as you paint? are you doing this digitally or traditionally? examples always help!

[Anonymous No.3887944]

>>3887930
Traditionally, I usually do water colors but still it fucking looks like mud at times. I'd post an example now but I trashed it in frustration. I fucking mixed Gamboge, Yellow Ochre and White and it still looked like shit.

[Anonymous No.3887955]

I just can't see how I can compete/compare with people studying in art schools and ateliers. I spend so much of my time drawing but it really only amounts to ~5 hours on weekdays and 10 on weekends.
On the other hand, they attend art lectures and demos every day, surround themselves with other students, have assignments to work on and constantly get feedback from someone more learned than them. If they want they can invest 100% of their mind on art.

How can I compete with that? I want to make comics with great art to tell the stories I want but fuck.

[Anonymous No.3887963]

>>3887955
Always remember there are art students who draw less than 15h a week. You're good

[Anonymous No.3887969]

>>3887955
5 hours a day is solid, you shouldn't be concerned about not drawing enough.

[Anonymous No.3887998]

>>3887169
>tfw I live in a country where it rains half the time
It's so soothing. People here that appreciate it are rare.
>>3887105
>have friends come over
>always end up not participating in discussions and going to bed early because everyone is drunk and I'm bored
I'm not even a sperg but I always feel lonely, even surrounded by those I consider close to me. I'm certainlyy to blame here, but I can't help it.

[Anonymous No.3888012]

>>3887955
>tfw can't bring myself draw for more than a few hours a day
I used to draw way more but I got that that /beg/ tier where I'm embarassingly bad but good enough to see where I fuck up. It's so disheartening. I deleted all vidya on my computer, unplug the internet for hours when I want to get to work, still somehow get distracted and end up doing jackshit for extended periods of time.

[Anonymous No.3888077]

>>3887169
Living in a desert is terrible.

[Anonymous No.3888181]

>>3888012
Trying to hard man, just go about your day regularly, and draw when you feel like drawing for however long you want to. It has to be fun for you to do, otherwise that happens. Accept your work the way it is, don't be discouraged by what you perceive as bad, instead turn that into practical, constructive dialogue: "this line is like so when it should be the opposite, I need to pay closer attention to that," "this angle is a little too acute", "that form is rounder" etc. Mistakes are how you figure out what you need to focus on, not something to beat yourself up over.

[Anonymous No.3888186]

>>3887797
I dig your vibes. Got anything else to share?

[Anonymous No.3888202]

I've been dedicating my time to drawing fulltime for about 4 months now. My mom thinks I'm just sitting things around doing nothing all day. I want to tell her, but i can't because I draw smut. :\ I do plan on making a living off of art.

I've also been looking for another job after leaving the last I was at for 3 months, so money isn't an issue, but I know I wont have it forever.

Right now she and my dad are getting at it again so she's pretty stressed atm

Should I tell her the truth, or do you guys have a lie I can tell her to calm her worries?

[Anonymous No.3888271]

I keep trying to sit myself down and learn fundamentals so I can draw properly, but I suck at studying and for one reason or another, eventually end up taking another hiatus from drawing. These days I don't know why I still have the desire to draw.

[Anonymous No.3888322]

how do you make drawing enjoyable?
it always feels like such a chore

[Anonymous No.3888327]

>>3888322
first you have to make it a habit, something you do every day. it'll be less of a chore then since you'll have less resistance to doing it. as you do it more you'll get better and then it'll be fun when you start to be pleased with the outcome of your creation.

[Anonymous No.3888377]

Some of my friends are really into "feminist style" art. And Its just the ugliest thing I've seen in my whole life why do people enjoy this other than the occassional quote?

[Anonymous No.3888395]

>>3887823
Would you rather have made some progress in a year towards your dream or no progress in a year?

[Anonymous No.3888396]

>>3888377
Because they have brian porblems. Get new friends.

[Anonymous No.3888401]

>>3888377
Shinjiteru ze!
Shinjiteru yo!

[Anonymous No.3888438]

>>3888377
They try to make art as ugly as possible so they don't get objectified/ sexualized

[Anonymous No.3888443]

>>3888438
>so they don't get objectified/ sexualized

They don't know what beasts are out there.

[Anonymous No.3888449]

>>3888377
it's art created not for some form of aesthetic value, but instead represents the feminist rejection of female beauty standards. the ugliness is an intentional noncompliance to traditional feminine beauty ideals.
obviously you don't have to be ugly disagree with society, but the ugliness itself is a symbol of the rejection. they could draw a beautiful girl and call her anti-objectification but that wouldn't carry the same weight would it? when people get mad at the art for not being pretty, that's almost the point of it i.e. "i don't have to be pretty for you". i don't agree or disagree with any of these opinions, but hopefully you can see art as more than just a means to achieve beauty, no matter what /ic/ says.

[Anonymous No.3888464]

>>3888449
>they could draw a beautiful girl
I sincerely doubt that. You forgot to mention they also seem to have rejected any notion of craftsmanship or skill. Does that make it any less bad? The message is dumb and feminism itself is worthless. Being ugly for the sake of transgression or rejection of established ideals, is still ugliness.

[Anonymous No.3888465]

I just can't into gesture... it always looks like shit and unproportionate

[Anonymous No.3888473]

I feel like i practice and i don't get any where.
I know it takes time and i'm not gonna quit anytime soon, but alot of my peers are better than me and younger than me.
I know i shouldn't compare either and i know my solutions but i just can't help feel frustrated.
Why can't it be easy like fucking traditional learning where i just have to memorize a fucking formula?

[Anonymous No.3888619]

>tfw see a basically /beg/ tier artist and they make $500 per month on patreon

[Anonymous No.3888639]

>>3888443
I am literally into monsters and I wouldn't touch those Tumblr abominations with a 10 foot pole

[Anonymous No.3888668]

I'm still fucking depressed from yesterday and I can't draw. I just stare at the sheet and repeat to myself that I'm too old and I'll never compete, I can't imagine anything. I don't want to waste another day without drawing but I can't help it. I don't know how to get rid of these thoughts.
I just want to forget this negative shit and draw.

[Anonymous No.3888685]

>>3887963
Of course there's lazy, ungrateful people everywhere. I'm more talking about the hard-working students that put in the hours.
>>3887969
It's not totally focused working though, any time I'm drawing I'm actively ignoring the seemingly unending shit I have to work through.
It sits in the back of my head no matter how hard I try to ignore it
>>3888202
I know that feel anon.
My family thinks I sit in my room playing video games all day when I haven't touched a console in 6+ months.
It sucks, I work as hard as I can all day in my room then go out to being mocked and lectured over being shut-in and "game addict"
>>3888438
they make it as ugly as possible because they're not skilled enough to have it any other way

[Anonymous No.3888688]

Is it normal to seemingly be unable to find an artist who's style I singularly like? Like to see it and say "That's where I want to take my style"

All I seem to find myself is admiring their skill or certain aspects of their style

[Anonymous No.3888692]

>>3888688
Maybe you're being too narrow? Try to look at other genres entirely. That's how I discovered I wasn't that interested in people as subject matter.

[Anonymous No.3888701]

>>3881327
This is so stupid but I am ashamed of my "childish" art. Recently got back into drawing and tried the simpler stuff, such as children illustrations with nature and tons of cute animals. I am actually having a lot of fun and really enjoy illustrating these...

But when I look at other peoples' realism art or just plain good art, I feel kinda ashamed of myself. It's like I have 0 talent and that's why I am drawing this type of stuff.

[Anonymous No.3888711]

>>3888701
This is a shitty trap. I hate being jealous of art I don't even like, just because of the skill level. I'm not interested in the drawings, I don't like the style, I don't like anything about it but it's more skilled and if the artist is younger I get jealous and depressed anyway.
This goes against everything I usually think, say or do, my favorite artists have a style that doesn't even resemble this shit and I appreciate content over everything. I don't even get jealous when I see people like KJG because I don't like the content. It's just younger artists who are more skilled that me that send me into a depression even if their art bores me.

Realism or more serious art in general will always look more authoritative, that's its strong point. But you can make skilled and soulful art drawing childish things. Just look at Miyazaki, that stuff is pure soul and it's literally for kids.

[Anonymous No.3888783]

My grades are shit, I recently signed up for university, and I don't think I'm going to make it. I consider my art to be /beg/ tier but my friend group constantly praises me and it's been a while ever since I received a red line.
For my entire life, I've dedicated myself to drawing art and trying to get better but if I get rejected from uni I'll get kicked out of my house.
I applied to double major in Graphic Design and Studio Art. If my dad found out I've been failing three of my classes with a 2.8 GPA, he'll whoop my ass again.
inb4 underage
im 18

[Anonymous No.3888785]

>>3886364
Can someone please explain to me how he sells his art for millions of dollars? Dogs he paint this one ironically?

[Anonymous No.3888799]

>>3888668
I'm telling you to draw a circle right now and post it. Or draw a box. Beginning is always the hardest step

[Anonymous No.3888801]

>>3888639
I would and I'm into monsters as well.

[Anonymous No.3888827]

>>3888783
Stop listening to your friends and start doing something about your life

[Anonymous No.3888829]

>>3888327
Not the guy you replied to but thanks for this. I needed to hear it

[Anonymous No.3888854]

>>3881327
I don't want much, I don't need much. I can live simple like a monk for the rest of my days and I would be content. But I must admit, I do want to learn how to draw. It's not in anyway useful in my occupation, really I do it as though I owe it to the younger me that tried and failed to succeed. I wouldn't want to give up trying to draw.


A person can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in their own toil. This too, I see, is from the hand of God, for without him, who can eat or find enjoyment? [Ecclesiastes 2:24]

[Anonymous No.3888858]

I actually kinda hate Proko’s art. His videos are informative and helpful and I learn a lot watching them, but when I see his actual art sometimes I just think it looks ugly. I especially don’t like realistic caricatures.
How many Hail Marys do I have to say for this?

[Anonymous No.3888863]

>>3888858
proko's imaginative work is where he really shines

[Anonymous No.3888871]

>>3888858
The caricatures you saw was probably Court Jones', I don't like them either. But Proko did a couple of caricatures in the past too, I think.
Proko's work is mostly okay, it's just that it's boring and uninteresting. His style is very lacking in character (compare it to, say, his teacher Jeff Watts or the god Schmid), and his subject matters rarely tells an interesting story. So overall his portfolio is really forgettable, tho it's still technically impressive.

[Anonymous No.3888904]

>>3885423
>camal lust
fuck man I was drinking

[Anonymous No.3888914]

>>3886047
>Tyson Hesse
>10/10
>Chad
>can draw
>worked for top tier company
NO NO NO FUCK LIFE BROS

[Anonymous No.3888917]

>>3888914
You forgot the animator girlfriend that draws cute girls

[Anonymous No.3888925]

>>3881327
I'm not in debt anymore. I can draw without pressure. It's been so long that I thought this day would never come.

[Anonymous No.3888934]

>>3888685
>>3888202
Oh shit I'm not alone
it's been 1 whole year since I started grinding hard but I can't tell them because I'm still shit
And they are braindead normalfags anyway, unlesss I show them some meme photorealistic shit they won't get it.

[Anonymous No.3889022]

26 yo engineer here. Realised I'm probably too autistic to last in the industry. Set a goal to be good enough to draw decent quality action comics with a mixture of human and furry characters. Been drawing for a year now in my free time fairly consistently. Mostly focusing on constuction, linework, gesture, and anatomy. Haven't really posted any art yet. Probably won't post until I get a basic grasp of shading and values to make my art pop more. I started out liking and drawing chubby furry art\porn but always make a strong effort to understand tradition human anatomy. In the small amount of time I been drawing I've noticed my construction, linework, and anatomy had already surpassed 70% of those furry artist I watched. Currently resisting the urge to take easy way out and just post fat fur art even though it's a dead end artistiscally.

[Anonymous No.3889155]

>>3881658
Fucking this. My gf always moves while watching tv, but only after I've almost established a pose. It kills me, now I just draw her when she's napping (she signed a consent form in my sketchbook)

[Anonymous No.3889167]

>>3889155
Oh gee, all my drawing of sleeping gfs was completely nonconsensual

[Anonymous No.3889211]

>>3889167
You better not talk about that on webs boy.

[Anonymous No.3889297]

>>3889022
>engineer
What department? Civil guy here and I'm heading towards that
Curious to what your work looks like anon

[Anonymous No.3889306]

>>3881327
I've lost all hope in my art
I see all these amazing pieces and think I can't do better than that why bother
I want to draw but I hate my art

[Anonymous No.3889425]

>>3881327
Guys ive lately been slacking more and more and losing my drive, it fucking pisses me off I just feel so tired all the time and not motivated. How do I fix this?

[Anonymous No.3889476]

>>3889425
Same here

[Anonymous No.3889918]

>>3889425
I don't know the solution to this but I've been there too.
Fortunately for me, if I just keep going, even drawing very little, sooner or later the tide turns and I feel motivated again, even the thought that I didn't give up during tough times is very empowering.
Also, it can help to switch your subjects around a bit, I tend to stick to one thing for a long time and then get bummed out a bit until I discover something new.

Hang in there!

[Anonymous No.3889926]

how do you draw from ref without wanting to kill yourself at how shitty and incorrect your drawing is

[Anonymous No.3890086]

>>3889297
Mechanical Engineering mostly in the fluid power industry. I design fluid transfer systems and pumps. It's challenging but not very fun and involves a lot of inter-department communication. But definitely pays the bills. A welcome balencer to my otherwise degenerate life.

[Anonymous No.3890099]

Venting. Want to start drawing, but suffering from major depression, so I have no motivation to start. Super pissed off that I can't start doing what I want to do.

[Anonymous No.3890109]

>>3889926
When your drawing from reference there is usually something about the reference that you want to capture. Whether that be the gesture, the perspective, the light and shade, a background, or just a hairstyle. If your trying to copy the reference exactly in its entirety just know that is an incredibly difficult task; especially if your copying a photo reference. My advice is to focus on one or two aspect of a reference, like the gesture or general volumes.

[Anonymous No.3890206]

Oh shit I'm sorry guys I don't feel like sharing the Japanese sekrits I just watched some vilppu proko and other stuff I haven't seen in a long time and I just realized how bad your learning resources are I guess I'll leave for good until someone actually figures out and spreads the sekrits and you can actually draw by modern standards I'm so sorry

[Anonymous No.3890216]

>>3890206

I already know the secrets. It's just a damn shame I don't know the language fluently yet. That's why I'm studying so I can learn from the source.

[Anonymous No.3890603]

I get frustrated when I'm about to draw fanart because it reminds me that I'm only piggybacking off someone else's creativity to produce a piece of self-expression doesn't truly belong to me.

[Anonymous No.3890616]

>>3890603
I'll never understand the thought process of this. I draw fanart because I like seeing and exploring these characters in different scenarios. It's not like I'm gonna sell these for patreon bux. That being said, I don't really care for doing my own original art. I'm happy with drawing what I like.

[Anonymous No.3890618]

AAAAAAAAA I DONT WANNA DO FACES I CAN DEAL WITH THE BODIES SOMEHOW BUT FACES MAKE ME SO ANXIOUS AAAAAA

[Anonymous No.3890643]

Do

[Anonymous No.3890644]

>>3890616
It seems like "a picture of a pretty girl" is different than "a picture of a pretty girl from a superpopular franchise," so it makes me feel basic like I'm jumping on a bandwagon. What kind of stuff do you draw? Stuff you show to others and get positive feedback on? Or stuff you personally enjoy that you never share?

[Anonymous No.3890645]

>>3890643
meant to type: Don't give up anons. My work looks like this 99% of the time I try, so there's still hope for you when art this bad exists

[Anonymous No.3890661]

>>3890109
i'm doing painting studies right now so i basically put the photo in black and white then try to emulate it, which means everything has to be in perfect order
a normal person wouldn't care as much but it triggers a weird compulsive behavior in me, it absolutely fucking wrecks me

>>3890618
same

[Anonymous No.3890663]

>>3890644
>What kind of stuff do you draw?
I draw characters from videogames I played or series I watched. Original work or not, if it looks presentable I post it online, if not I just keep it to myself. I try to enjoy the process as much as possible.

I think I somehow get where youre coming from. I personally don't like making fanart of something I haven't consumed coz it feels like I'm not doing justice to these character's personality.

[Anonymous No.3890691]

>>3890663
Thanks for your input anon, I'll give it a shot right now. Gotta fight that nasty habit of giving up before I even start.

[Anonymous No.3890754]

>>3890691
Good luck anon and godspeed.
Das a cute boi btw

[Anonymous No.3891259]

I am a NEET loser with no life so I decided to dedicate myself to learning to draw for 8 hours every day for the next year, today was my first 8 hours and it feels like I learned nothing. I have tried other things like programming and music production, and while I gave up on those because I am/was a retard, I at least made progress even on my first day. Today I tried Loomis (fun with a pencil), and also Keys to Drawing, and then Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, for a few hours each until it started to feel pointless. Learning this shit from books just seems turbo hard and art seems to have some of the worst pedagogy ever upon further reading about art teaching, feels bad man. I will still keep going for the whole year because I have nothing else to do but man, it is discouraging, I don't know what to do next. Drawabox?