Social Media Gains General

[Anonymous No.3988457]

Here are my tips for the following:

DA - post your work onto over 100 groups. It's time consuming, but it's the most guarantee out of everything listed here to get you followers.

Twitter - socialize a bit in discussions. A lot of artists use twitter to ask questions or to bring up topics and it's a good way to respond and get noticed. Once you start getting a few re-tweets you're pretty much set. Now just wait to get lucky and have something re-tweeted by someone with a lot of followers.

Tumblr - bandwagon onto something currently popular and use their hashtags.

Instagram - ?

Facebook - ?

!!MOST IMPORTANTLY!!, post FREQUENTLY and stay active as possible. If you ever wondered "how did that artist who draws like a 6th grader get so many followers?" More than likely they post something new every day of the month.

If you have any tips for gaining followers on specific social medias, please post.

[Anonymous No.3988463]

just fucking draw

[Anonymous No.3988536]

I post on instagram a lot and noticed that it's best to post with 1 or 2 weeks in-between posts, somehow gets me more followers

[Anonymous No.3988547]

Instagram - do a lot of draw in your own style garbage. Disney or Nintendo fanart.

[Anonymous No.3988571]

>>3988457
>>3988536
>>3988547
For Insta? Pic related.

[Anonymous No.3988572]

>>3988571
For Deviantart? There's that.

[Anonymous No.3988730]

>>3988571
Oh hey that's my post! Glad it was helpful.

To add to it around the time I shared that I had around 2000 followers and was averaging 400-600 likes per post, whith some that got close to or even over 1k.

More recently (1-2 months ago) I noticed my engagement took a huge hit, to the point where I was lucky if I got 200 likes, and less than 1k of my followers were even seeing my work.

I started using fewer hashtags (10-15 instead of 30) and avoiding the largest "promo" hasthags (#artpromote, #pencilacademy, those kind), favoring instead hashtags that more accurately fit my posts.

I also started using my stories more to try and get my followers more involved, with polls, questions, etc.

I'm now back at getting 400-600 likes per post, and that's without doing the "liking multiple posts" thing, which means I'm not forcing extra views to my profile, so if your engagement has dropped, give that a shot and see if it helps!

Also, as soon as I hit 5k followers a couple weeks ago, I saw a significant spike in new followers (pic related). From 3-5 followers a day to 25-35 by doing absolutely nothing different than what I used to. I don't know if it's because the algorithm has caught up with my recent daily posting habit, because people see 5k followers and are like "he's good enough for 5k people, I'll follow him", or because IG starts promoting accounts more when they hit 5k followers, but I thought it was interesting.

[Anonymous No.3988800]

>>3988730
Hey man, yeah I just started doing your strategy today, we'll see how it goes but I'm noticing a few additional followers.
Got one question though : when you say
>Open their list of followers

Where do you see the biggest fishes? Is there a way to sort them by their importance?Can't find it and the top of the list isn't necessarily made of the biggest followers)

[Anonymous No.3988843]

>>3988457
>Instagram - ?
honestly it's just posting really high quality, professionally shot stuff
instagram is the most meritocratic platform of the bunch

[Anonymous No.3988850]

>>3988457
>>3988843
Actually not really, yes it's meritocratic in the sense that people will like the best presented work but you also have to use bots on Instagram. It doesn't matter if you are really good, you have to use bots to cheat the algorithm in order to appear at the top of the pages and on other people's profiles so they can follow you. There is no real network, it's all numbers. Most of your likes will be other people botting and randomly selecting your posts through hashtags.
On Twitter you don't have any of that and you have to suck up to other artists so that they retweet you. If you are less popular than someone else they will not retweet you because you don't have a following they can dip their toes into so you're kinda fucked.
Social media is shit.

[Anonymous No.3988894]

>>3988800
Nice! And you're not really looking for larger accounts, in fact you should aim for smaller ones.

Large ones probably won't see the notifications or won't bother checking who followed them, so you won't get much out of that.

But smaller accounts are more interested in people liking their stuff and are more likely to give you a follow, especially if you're decent at what you do.

To get larger accounts to notice you the best way is to just genuinely interact with them, I had a few people I looked up to follow me back just because I commented on some of their posts or joined a hashtag they started.

Btw, an account's followers are listed by most recent, so just go in order because chances are the most recent ones will be newer accounts looking for people to follow, and more importantly they'll be active accounts.

[Anonymous No.3988906]

Only social media nubs think in terms of how to get more followers.

Followers are meaningless if they aren't actual fans of your work. More specifically, engagement rate is a much more important metric than raw follower numbers. An account with 10k followers but a .5% engagment rate is not nearly as good as a 1000 follower account with a 10% engagement rate. A good engagement rate helps your account naturally grow on many different types of sites. Too many followers and a low engagement rate is not good for modern social media algorithms, which are relevancy based. I'm other words, a post made by an account with lots of followers that gets poor engagement will be lower in people's feeds, while a smaller account with more active engagements from fans will appear higher.

It's one of the reasons buying followers is a massive waste of money, and why social media groups are not a good idea to join. Followers should not start following you for any other reason than the fact that they genuinely enjoy your work.

[Anonymous No.3989063]

I don't know if this warrants its own thread so I'll post here.

Finally got off my ass and made some social media accounts because I want to make some side money. I'm literally starting from 0. Where and how do I even begin and proceed?

[Anonymous No.3989103]

>>3989063
If you're trying to make 'side money' with your art via social media, I just want you to know you will have a much better chance at making money by creating an illustration portfolio and reaching out to businesses in your area.

[Anonymous No.3989127]

Facebook. Groups. FACEBOOK GROUPS I’m not joking. if you want to do well with the “fandom” shit and get people to buy prints or stickers of your fan art, yeah, it actually works. don’t believe me? join a good group that pertains to an anime/series etc that you like and post fan art, if you’re good people will actually be interested. promise. yeah it’s just as bad as reddit but you’re more likely to get interaction this way.

[Anonymous No.3989131]

>>3989103
I agree but I'd also like to learn how to utilize social media to increase my reach and employment opportunity, as there aren't many local businesses in my town interested in what I can offer.

[Anonymous No.3989144]

>>3988457
>Instagram
Use lots of relevant hashtags and tag any groups/reposters you're interested in. Also, make use of Stories and make sure to add it to your highlights once it has expired. Understand that Instagram does not (and will not) set its feed to display in reverse chronological order. Everyone relies on its algorithm for post positioning in peoples' feed, which can make it harder to build audience.

>Facebook
Join groups. Facebook has said it will de-emphasize the news feed and emphasize groups, particularly private groups. It has already launched its ad campaign promoting. This isn't to say you shouldn't post to your page; however, news feed visibility, which is already a non-priority on smartphones, will be pushed further down the priority list. If you're so bold, start your own group. All of this said, Facebook currently isn't really the best platform for sharing your art; however, groups, which are supposed to bring people with common interests together, could make it a better option.

[Anonymous No.3989146]

>>3989063
find and follow friends
interact with them

[Anonymous No.3989164]

Former dA user here.
Llamas are pointless, right? Apparently, some users on that site are obsessed with them. Install the one click llama button plugin and give that shit out to every account you come across. Some will come to your page to thank you for the useless things and probably watch you.

It works all too well, especially if you 'steal' from the followbase of other artists who do the same thing.

[Anonymous No.3989167]

Comic writer here.
I am also starting from zero, like >>3989063 and I don't care so much about the money (I have a day job), I just want people to read my story.
I have a small following already, but I haven't actually posted the comic anywhere because I don't know what would be best for traffic...
Webtoon seems unlikely, there's lots of violence in my work, but that's probably the only site I know of that hosts comics that get lots of traffic.
Can anon tell me of a place to host a violent comic where people will read it for free?

[Anonymous No.3989170]

>>3989063
>>3989103
Different anon here but you guys seem to know about this. Is it really a thing to get popular on social media and get commissions? Do you just post art all the time and suddenly one guy will ask you on private messages to draw him something?

[Anonymous No.3989182]

>>3989146
Not spider man, but how do you interact with people besides saying "thank you" to compliments?

[Anonymous No.3989362]

>>3989182
Make sockpuppets accounts and fabricate interactions
Everything on social media is fake

[Anonymous No.3989390]

>>3989182
i just comment and fave on cool shit that i find.

[Anonymous No.3989394]

It seems like a lot of the popular artists on social media actually do things in real life too. Like, they don't just live on social media but they attend conventions and meet people in real life or they had some kind of job at a studio where they probably got professional connections.The kinds of things that are harder to do than post a picture on a random website and cause people to actually know who you are and potentially care about you and have an investment in your life.

[Anonymous No.3989423]

>>3988457
>DA - post your work onto over 100 groups. It's time consuming, but it's the most guarantee out of everything listed here to get you followers.

doesn't work

[Anonymous No.3989425]

>>3989423
pyw, maybe it's just trash, cause it works for me.

[Anonymous No.3989445]

>bandwagon onto something currently popular and use their hashtags

But how? I've been there for 10 years and when I use hashtags. Ive got max 5 likes. I am pretty good btw

[Anonymous No.3989567]

>daily reminder that followers don't translate into work
I'm far from even having 1k followers and already doing 3k/month

[Anonymous No.3989582]

>post png on newgrounds
>4.5-5 stars
>post gif animation
>2.5
WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKKK

[Anonymous No.3989625]

>>3989567
reminder that porn isn't art and doesn't count

[Anonymous No.3989654]

I don't really participate in trends much, but if you're on twitter make sure to follow other artists to keep in the loop.

There are usually surges in popular tags and characters that you can post to. E.g. nessa from pokemon blew up, before that bowsette blew up. You'll see people jump on the bandwagon. It's a good opportunity to get noticed. Nintendo related stuff are usually a huge audience on twitter, but overall E3 is good in general as well. You get new things you can contribute to around this year.

Make sure you're researching your hashtags. Some of them are very popular, especially ones curated by high profile people.

[Anonymous No.3989666]

>>3989625
>being this jelly
you will make it someday too anon

[Anonymous No.3989940]

>>3988894
Ok, now it's all clear, thanks a ton man. I'll give it a shot (& if it really works I'd even follow you,if you want to share your IG or dA)!

[Anonymous No.3990168]

>>3988730
i'm glad you posted that
I experienced everything you said

I'm getting a lot more followers but my likes are really low

I think people are attracted by a big number of followers but those type follow a lot of people so it's really hard to appear in their home feed since the algorythm is fucked

[Anonymous No.3990187]

>>3989182
memes and shared interests

[Anonymous No.3990559]

>>3989666
>you're not a performer, you are literally sucking cock for money!
>*takes cock off mouth* "haha you're just jealous!"

[Anonymous No.3990565]

>>3990559
>still thinks i draw porn

[Anonymous No.3990616]

>>3990565
It doesn't matter if you draw porn or not, it's not about jealousy, porn is not art, just like a pornstar isn't an actress. If you want career advice on acting you might take advice from a Hollywood actor, an independent actor, a theater actor, but you would never ask the opinion of a pornstar because it's a different career and it's not acting. I hate pornfags but even if I didn't it would still be true that porn is not art.

I hate it so much when people speak about things from their warped, out of touch perspective because all they draw is pokemon porn but they think it's art. You should not give advice to artists who draw anything other than porn. At least specify "I draw porn" so I can ignore your post instead of asking if you draw porn.

Really there should be separate threads for artists and pornfags, as it is it makes no sense to discuss social media, career, patreon or anything else because pornfags are out of touch and they think they're artists.

[Anonymous No.3991562]

>>3989567
Pyw

[Anonymous No.3991576]

>>3990616
AMEN.

[Anonymous No.3991729]

https://www.instagram.com/pepper_vevo/ pls follow

[Anonymous No.3992001]

Hey guys I use instagram as my main social media and lately i've been getting consistantly 0 likes from people who don't follow my account (aka I think im being shadow banned). I don't post NSFW or anything, and this has happened for at least 3-4 months now... Before this happened my account growth was much better.

[Anonymous No.3992015]

>>3992001
have you stopped using tags or started using different tags? most likes you get from instagram are bots that randomly like stuff based on tags
Maybe instagram did a sweep on botting recently and you lost those likes

[Anonymous No.3992017]

>>3992015
If I go on the hashtag page of the hastag that I put on my post for example, my post doesn't even show up in 'recent'. I unironically enjoy having no bots liking / commenting on my stuff (since its all just fake anyway), but knowing that no one will ever potentially stumble into my page makes me sad.

[Anonymous No.3992033]

>>3988536
This is absolutely not true.

>>3988571
>>3988730
This anon gets it. I'm soo close to 5k follows too, just a couple hundred more. Congrats on the milestone, anon.

>>3992001
I've gotten randomly shadowbanned too. I think it's the use of hashtags that sometimes get lewd content posted in it, like #anime or #animegirl. Or just if someone decides to report you for not using the right hashtags. It sucks, but it'll go away in a couple weeks. This is a good time to work on something really good, and in the meantime post lower effort doodles. If you don't post at all, Insta might still penalize you and not have you show up in your followers' feeds.

[Anonymous No.3992038]

>>3989170
Yep. It takes a lot of time and effort to grow your audience. Having people DM you is step one. The really big social media milestone is being able to post that you have x amount of commission slots open, and people flock to try and get one.

[Anonymous No.3993613]

Why did this die

[Anonymous No.3993620]

>>3988571
This slightly works, but not entirely. Probably because my speciality is drawing in a niche that is very hard to find with accounts that reach 20k. Found 2 accounts only that had 20k+, and did this. Did this for hundreds of accounts with 1k to 9k, for two days, gained only 10 follows. I'm not a beginner either, most people say I'm either advanced or intermediate, several even think I'm "professional" (opinions mostly from strangers), but most called me advanced, for my niche anyway. My only other suspicion is that I'm doing this on furfag accounts when I don't draw humanoid anthro furries, I actually draw normal four legged animals or occationally Lisa Frank inspired stuff. Do furries not like animal art unless it has tits and a human body or something? I'd imagine girls don't care and like anyone who draws animals, furry or not.

[Anonymous No.3995529]

>>3988457
I have a non drawing related youtube. Hit a million views earlier. Not too big. The best advice I can give other than having good videos (90% of videos are not good) is to post regularly. 2-3 times a week might be ideal.

[Anonymous No.3995580]

>>3995529
i swear to god, the youtube audience is the easiest to make money/get views off of.
i don't know why more people don't exploit it.

[Anonymous No.3995619]

>>3995580
What's your channel about if not art?
What tags do you use, if any?
Are you new to youtube?
what's behind the blur for estimated revenue and why did it jump from 0 to what looks like a 100.00+ digit number?
what is the demonetization and copyright situation like?

[Anonymous No.3995667]

>>3995619

>>3995529
>>3995580
these are two different people.

[Anonymous No.3995743]

>>3989625
Seething.

[Anonymous No.3995776]

>>3995580
In what way?
What kind of youtube channel do you think is the most lucurative to start?

[Anonymous No.3995840]

Quick question: do you guys reply/do something to people who 'react' to your instagram stories? if i reply back it's always the same convo and I'm getting fed up but I don't wanna ignore my followers either.
Great thread btw

[Anonymous No.3995864]

>>3995776
Not him, but youtube is not easy money. IG is easier to grow but more effort to monetize. YT ad money is nothing

[Anonymous No.3996207]

>>3995864
How is ig easier to grow? Feels like you need to spend 3 hours per day to gain followers, and post art everyday which are clean, finished, and colored, and you can only post uncolored wip's occationally. It leads to either burn out or posting half assed or wip's 30% of the time. Am I viewing it all wrong, or not doing something important?

[Anonymous No.3996262]

>>3996207
Success exclusively depends on how hard you pander, these anons just have a warped perspective and they're out of touch. I've talked to a lot of people saying this shit about "you have to interact with the fans", "just be consistent", how it's "not that hard" and you "must be doing something wrong" or "your art probably sucks" but then you look at their work and it's trending videogame characters with hyper asses. Unless you are a god tier artist it's all a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.3996348]

does anyone know how to get popular on fiverr

[Anonymous No.3996612]

>>3995840
I just double-tap to "like" the react. There's really nothing to say, but acknowledgment will make the person want to continue supporting you.

>>3996207
Def don't need to post every day. I only post on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays, around 4:30 PM EST. That gives enough time to make content without half-assing it. IG is easier than YT because it's easier to get noticed through liking/commenting on stuff, whereas I don't think YT even has the option to see who liked your video.

[Anonymous No.3996686]

>>3996612
>I just double-tap to "like" the react.
I see. I've been doing the same but most wanna start a conversation from there and I just can't waste time with that. It doesn't seem like Instagram rewards you by posting stories anyway so I don't get the point

[Anonymous No.3996748]

>>3989164
I don't know how they did it, but on deviantart some user made a bot that would like every new post it came across. this makes people check out your deviatart page because it's customary to say 'thank you for the fav'

[Anonymous No.3996750]

>>3996686
Yeah I never engage with real conversations either. I only respond to stuff that warrants a "thank you" or "i know right" kind of response. But do keep posting stories. If you consistently post, people will watch them. When people watch them, your account becomes more relevant to them, so the Instagram algorithms will boost your content in your followers' feeds. Stories don't help you get followers, but it helps you keep the ones you have.

Try posting poll/rating stories too, because ones where your followers directly interact supposedly reaaally helps with algorithm boosting. It doesn't even have to be thoughtful haha, sometimes I'll just post a picture of my cat with the poll options "yes" and "yes" and lots of people engage.

[Anonymous No.3996755]

Sometimes after I like multiple of someone's posts, they'll DM me thanking me for liking AND following them. But I didn't follow. Is this some weird psychological strategy to make me follow them because I'm supposed to feel bad? It's happened on numerous occasions.

[Anonymous No.3996762]

Should I start reading books on marketing to get better at shilling?

[Anonymous No.3996763]

>>3996750
Thank you so much for the tips, anon. The poll idea is great. I tried it out a couple of times a while ago when I saw an artist do something in the same vein of the example you just gave. It was a drawing of a cute baker and the poll was a slider with the icon of bread. Gotta get back to that biz then, thanks for the motivation!

[Anonymous No.3997202]

>>3990616
That's not a reasonable equivalency and you know it it, but you're just seething because pornfags actually make money.

Drawing dragons and space marines is the same skill set as drawing porn. Sucking cock on camera is not the same skill set as acting.

The only reason you would call porn not art is because you're looking for a way to justify your lack of success.

[Anonymous No.3997209]

>>3991729
You look like you trace.

[Anonymous No.3997219]

>>3988457
For Twitter, can't you just use the same method as tumblr and just draw whatever's popular and use hashtags?

[Anonymous No.3997480]

>>3988457
How many different websites should one post to?

[Anonymous No.3997595]

>*takes cock off mouth*
>>3997202

[Anonymous No.3997756]

>>3997202
Pornfags like this make me feel better about my own art. At least I have self dignity, and it genuinely paid off staying away from porn, there were times I genuinely was going to start making porn just to get noticed but I'd continue to abstain. Half of my favorite artists now follow me since I never built a reputation of degenarcy or relied on porn.
Just fucking draw. Never do porn as a last resort, it's not worth it. You'll feel much prouder knowing you didn't need to whore out to become noticed. You became noticed for making actual real art. Fuck pornfags. Porn is the cheapest and lowest way to get noticed.

[Anonymous No.3998047]

>>3997756
>>3990616
thank god there are some grounded anons on /ic

[Anonymous No.3999186]

gained 32 followers from 2 drawings last months

feels big since I still have sub 200 followers

[Anonymous No.3999228]

>>3997219
i did that and got no likes
i think im shadowbanned or something
or maybe my art just sucks idk

[Anonymous No.3999273]

>>3999228
protip: use japanese tags

[Anonymous No.3999284]

>>3999273
examples of jap tags? i dont speak japanese

[Anonymous No.3999341]

>>3999284
well me neither but for example like the recent thing where girls put milk tea cups in their boobs and drink from it would be #手放しタピオカ or #タピオカチャレンジ (tapioca challenge)

Pixiv is your friend, you can find something you want to draw or is popular and just copy the japanese tags from there

[Anonymous No.3999354]

Am I making it?

[Anonymous No.3999376]

Help me make some gains /ic/ i will follow you back. Instagram: f.vasquez.draw

[Anonymous No.3999823]

Honest question. Why are you promoting yourselves on Social Media? To make money? To get attention? To >make it? I understand the desire to be an eceleb and get noticed but some of the posts I see on /ic/ are nearing desperate obsession on growing your personal following.

[Anonymous No.3999831]

>>3999354
How are you getting these results? Is your stuff original, fan art, nsfw? A mix?

[Anonymous No.3999837]

>>3999823
>>3999823
more followers + more likes + more commissions = more motivation to draw art
thats how the world works

[Anonymous No.3999851]

>>3999823
I want to make enough to make a living and keep doing art. Money is a mean. Art is the end

[Anonymous No.3999870]

is something happening with twittter tos?
I see a lot of people freaking out and I don't know what is going on

[Anonymous No.4000124]

>>3999823
people desperately need validation as they can't get one irl

[Anonymous No.4000330]

>>3999284
#lolicon #shotacon #oppai etc

[Anonymous No.4000348]

social media is a joke bro. It’s all about the social circle, doesn’t matter if you’re good at art or not

[Anonymous No.4000355]

>>3999870
seemingly cracking down on unmarked nsfw and accounts that are spam porn bots. threre is a possibilty of some nsfw accounts getting caught in the crossfire, but so far as every post they make isnt porn and is properly tagged, things will probably remain unchanged for most

[Anonymous No.4000356]

>muh followers
stop attention whoring and just draw

[Anonymous No.4000385]

>>4000355
Tagged ? Do you mean setting your entire account as NSFW or individual posts ?

[Anonymous No.4000424]

>>3999831
Fanart, sometimes nsfw

[Anonymous No.4000446]

>>4000356
You’re a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4000510]

>>4000385
in privacy settings, the selection to mark media you tweet as containing material that may be sensitive

[Anonymous No.4000982]

>>3997480
As many as you can handle?
Like most things, it's better to focus on a selected few big ones, but if you feel like a social media genius you can take them all simultaneously.
>>3998047
A rare breed we are (in this website), but yeah, we're not extinct. Self respect & decency aren't extinct.
>>3999186
Don't stop : Rome wasn't built in one day,you'll get there.
>>3999376
If you're SFW, sure. (and anatomy studies are sfw)
>>3999823
It doesn't apply to you if you only draw for yourself. If you want feedback,if you want money from your craft/make a living, if you want validation, if you want recognition, etc... That's currently one of the most practical paths to take.
>>4000348
It matters but it isn't the only factor : if you're the best of the world but nobody knows it, you won't magically have your wikipedia artist page. You need to learn marketing/promoting too.

[Anonymous No.4001325]

>>3999823
You can't get commissions without being known.

[Anonymous No.4001608]

Any tips to promote a Patreon? I am doing 250$ after 5 months. I put a lot of work in it and I update it daily. People tell me I should be making way more but I just suck at the sm game

[Anonymous No.4001638]

Opinions on paid promotion? Facebook ads, instagram ads, promoted tweets, buying shoutouts from influencers, etc.

[Anonymous No.4001751]

>>4001608
More tiers and exclusive patreon-only arts

[Anonymous No.4003667]

I seem to be stuck at 200 or so followers and the account goes up like 1 or 2 before sinking right back down. How the fuck do I get out of this?

[Anonymous No.4004436]

>>3999823
I gave up on social media, I still post something every now and then but I don't care about growing a following online anymore. I think only certain things work on social media unless your original work is of mind-blowing quality and of super broad appeal and even in that case it takes like a decade to find a following big enough to make a living. So I'll try to just get good enough and get a job through traditional channels.
Honestly I gave up on the idea of making this as a career a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.4005083]

I swear to god there are so many absolute shit webcomics on instagram and they're all popular, I'm so fucking sick of it. The normies don't care if the art is terrible but the jokes are also shit. I know low effort content is by nature more popular because all you have to do is be relatable and post frequently (both of which are easy with the horrible quality most of these are) but it still gets to me.

At least I still have an ounce of passion left in me though, but I am getting a little too addicted to wanting attention. At the end of the day the work I'm doing is for myself/for fun and any popularity/money I get from it is an added bonus.

[Anonymous No.4005143]

>>4001751
Thanks. I'm already doing that. I will probably just need to be more patient I saw the people near me on graphtreon and those who make more have been at it for years

[Anonymous No.4005153]

>>3988457
is there a way for my followers on insta not to see my likes/comments?

[Anonymous No.4005174]

>>4005083
If it's lower effort than your stuff, if they're all popular, if the audience has low standards, why aren't you jumping on the opportunity?!

[Anonymous No.4005274]

>>4005174
>>4005083
listen to the second annon. If you see a trend with crappy artists you, for this example a good artist, should jump in on it and blow everyone out of the water. You'll be a big fish in a small pond. You'll impress the normies even more. You don't even have to put in your all just put half your effort, if you're a good artist, and people will still be impressed. This is a dream come true not some dumb thing to be salty over.

[Anonymous No.4005286]

>>4005083
Look how insane the webcomic model looks when you explain it:
>You draw popular stuff and learn marketing skills unrelated to art so that you get bored people browsing social media and are not interested in your actual original content to follow you.
>This takes several years in most cases.
>When you have enough people who follow you for things unrelated to your original work, you pitch them your original work.
>Your comic has to be derivative of the things that got your uninvested audience to follow you.
>Your comic has to be safe and broadly appealing because you're aiming at the broadest possible chunk of the vaguely invested people who follow you.
>Part of your vaguely invested audience might be vaguely invested in your comic and might bother reading it for free.
>To those people who read the comic for free you ask that they give you a dollar out of the kindness of their heart.
>This is in the hopes that a percentage of those vaguely invested readers are invested enough, have money to waste and/or personally care about you as a person to the point where they give you a dollar every month.
>You are bound to this comic and this audience for eternity.

As opposed to
>You make a comic and put a nice cover on it and a price tag.
>Person already on the website/comic shop with the intention of buying a product sees the product that you're selling.
>He buys your comic.
>If your comic was good, that person will buy your next comic.

I'm sure that webcomics give you more money on average when you have a large audience but if you're starting from zero it sounds like madness to me.

[Anonymous No.4005745]

Is there a social network that isn't cancer like DA that still allows lewd art?

I like doing semi-realistic drawings of nude women with charcoal and would really like to be able to post them somewhere that isn't just a file/image sharing service.

[Anonymous No.4005761]

>>4005745
Da is still fine men, don't aviod potential places. Just make sure to stay firm in your position. If you go for shit you find shit, if not, then you dont, as easy as that. Even if you don't like the web for whatever reason, you just have to upload, care about a web is pointless anyway, is not like you are going to marry with a website...
Upload there, and done. Go for the next one, you don't have to deal with the people, just respond to the nice people and is all fine.
For simple nude things no porn, you can almost everywere, officialy you can in twitter and newgrounds, pixiv. You can in facebook and instagram, but you just need to put a bikini to a woman and you can put whatever you want, is that easy. Even if is lewd, if you put minimal clothes, every web is a option unless is a really explicit shit.

[Anonymous No.4005763]

>>4005761
>You can in facebook and instagram
i miss a "not" in that, you can't nude, but if you put simple clothes like a bikini, anything goes

[Anonymous No.4005859]

>>4000348
no its about the subject matter. This person has 70 followers (much less before this drawing)

[Anonymous No.4007845]

any tips how to get noticed on ko fi?

[Anonymous No.4008238]

I'm running out of ways to say "Thank you! I really appreciate the kind words / comment." I have a few people who regularly comment on my posts so I don't wanna sound disingenuous from making basically the same reply at them every time. How else can I phrase gratitude?

[Anonymous No.4008274]

>>4000446
It’s true, though. Trying to focus on gaining followers is fucking dumb, especially if you have 0 skill or interesting work to warrant any in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4008280]

>>4008238
I try to be personal with my followers by giving hypey replies like “Aaaaa ur so sweet” and “Thank u so much gorgeous!” But that mainly works if you’re a girl artist and have already already established that kind of online personality

[Anonymous No.4008305]

>>4008280
haha I am a girl, but I don't like that kind of persona. It's too hyper and personal for me. It does seem like a lot of popular artists talk like that and their fans are into it though.

Sweet is a good word, I could definitely write "That's so sweet of you to say!" Thanks, anon.

[Anonymous No.4008381]

>>4008305
>>4008280
>“Aaaaa ur so sweet” and “Thank u so much gorgeous!”
When I see this I always think it's incredibly fake