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Why You Should Copy Anime:

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

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Previous Thread:

>> No.4695212

anyone have any success using the /asg/ trick?

>> No.4695216

pretty op

>> No.4695226

What's the /asg/ trick?

>> No.4695229

When you're at /asg/ together make sure he knows you cannot draw anime girls.
When posting, find a picture of an anime girl, gaze at it with consternation and exclain sadly:

"I absolutely can't draw anime girls"

There is almost a 100% chance your guy will respond with "Why not? You don't like anime girls?

Be silent for a few seconds for dramatic effect and continue: "I... well" (take a pause) “Every time an anime girl is drawn badly, they suffer! Those cute little anime girls… I can’t bear to think about it! They’ll never get a chance to be on the front page of pixiv, to be rolled for in a gacha…” It is good to shiver at this point.

Your guy will gaze at you in amazement! What a kind, sensitive angelic person you are! Next he will be feeling the need to spend the time to really get to know you. He’s yours! Plans for a date are in the bag!

When you start going out with him, no doubt you will find yourselves at a similar thread where you can draw anime girls. You’ve got to know each other well enough, but of course he is going to ask. “Didn’t you say you couldn’t draw anime girls?”

It is safe enough to blow it off with a “I’m OK with it now”, or “Oh, I got used to it”, or even a “Did I say that?…tehe-pero!”

>> No.4695275

what the fuck

>> No.4695536
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it was funnier in my head.

>> No.4696020

Why is she crying?

>> No.4696107

why are you?

>> No.4696195
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Can I get some recommendations for artists that actually draw noses (cute/sexy girls)?

>> No.4696253

I like it. Then again I'm a sick fuck.

>> No.4696457


>> No.4696666

/asg/ is slowly dying. BASED

>> No.4696847

no it's not, with grey sketch tranny dead this thread can have some peace again

>> No.4696996
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I did a bunch of studies of hands from FLCL. I tried to focus on the more stylized, action-oriented poses so I could pick up on the animator's shorthand

>> No.4697166
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can someone here tell me who made this pic from op a few threads ago?

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>> No.4697183

please a link to his twitter or something?

>> No.4697300

https://twitter.com/55301puri/ i think : )

i really like their stuff

>> No.4697331

ah thank you so much kinda anon

>> No.4697543
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I did a few more hand studies from FLCL tonight.

>> No.4697836
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Thoughts? I felt like it looked okayish but then seeing all the other redraws, even the ones with no likes made me feel pretty shit.

>> No.4697875

You need more lineweight variation and the shadows on the skin need to be a little darker, they’re too subtle for this style.

>> No.4697958

So like letting off the pen pressure at the end of a line that doesn't connect?
And yeah I see what you mean about the shadows

>> No.4697985
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By using both thick and thin lines to make it more dynamic. The brush your using right now either has the stabilization turned way up or doesn’t really account for how much pressure you’re using.

>> No.4697999
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Took me way too long

Last study . >>4695740 (not /asg)

>> No.4698063
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>> No.4698417
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Question: I think my line art looks nicer when I enable pressure>opacity and pressure>size. But when I color the drawing, the opacity makes things look bad because the color underneath interacts with the opacity of the lines and makes it look weird and inconsistent. And when I don't use it my lines look really thick, rigid, and amatuerish, idk, I'm confused.

I notice a lot of good artists use pressure>opacity but their art still looks clean and perfect, some don't seem to use it but still looks fine. What do? I'm confused.

>> No.4698657

>And when I don't use it my lines look really thick
Are you keeping pressure size on? Also maybe try duplicating and stacking the line layer then adjust opacity just for kicks and see if it looks any better colored.

>> No.4698806
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>Actually went through 1000 pages of copy paper
>Break open a new stack of 1000
>I can see the difference of color of the paper, old pages are actually slightly yellowed compared to pristine white of the new ones
My improvement has been marginal however, almost non existant. Would definetly recommend to anyone who isn't braindead and anti-talented like me.

>> No.4698905
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I drew some faces from FLCL too. I tried to focus on expressions I thought were interesting.
what does the reference look like? the body and background seem fine, it's just the face that's a little janky. doing a couple of studies on how Toriyama stylizes faces could help a bunch
keep drawing, man. just bust out as many of these as you can, and try something new with each one. really push them, and even if it looks wonky and not very appealing, follow through to the end before scrapping it and moving on
cute, the simple values work pretty well. it wouldn't hurt to tie it down a little more, there's a lot of implied appeal that could use some definition
it's hard to say, but copying art that you like to break down their process and figure out how they make it work could help. if you're aiming for the style in the picture you posted, they're using a very thin solid black line with no opacity. simple, clean lines look deceptively easy, but there's a lot of super subtle line thickness changes here that make the drawing work. posting your work might help too

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>what does the reference look like?
The face is kinda weird from this angle as what's obscured by the finger doesn't really make sense, but yeah I definitely see a few things that are off.
Those eye-eyebrow shapes look really simple but somehow they're really hard to get right

>> No.4699210

Keep it up, hope you see progress in your own work.
I keep some of your stuff you post as inspiration and reference for what to capture!

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>> No.4699393

Usually you stack up the line art layer once or twice or duplicate it and multiple because of the reason you noticed. Also put an opaque layer under your colors. Lines tend to not work that well with just opacity pressure jitter.

Your pic is unrelated and effectively black or close to it. Line art is typically not pressure opacity jittered for inking purposes but there are some styles it can work with mostly hard round, those use some flat layer underneath though so as not to be affected by opacity.

>> No.4699408

>Also put an opaque layer under your colors.
>those use some flat layer underneath though so as not to be affected by opacity.
Not quite sure what you mean by this. Wouldn't painting under a line (and over the opaque layer) cause it to interact with the line art with opacity jitter anyway?

>> No.4699427

post whatever you mean as an example. the flat underneath still helps the linework to not be affected as much. whatever you think is opaque may even be them painting over the line art with a soft brush to match the local color.

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Hm maybe something like this? The lines are well defined but at the same time they are soft, sometimes thin or transparent looking, with no weird colors from underneath bleeding into them and spoiling the lines.

>> No.4699451

All of those lines are opaque and nothing how you described. It just looks like colored line art.

>> No.4699460

Hm maybe I'm too new to understand the techniques then. It looks thinner and lighter in some spots, so I assumed it's opacity jitter. So i guess you're saying it's not opacity jitter but maybe just size jitter, and they're painting over the opaque lines to give them a different effect? I see thanks, I guess drawing with opacity jitter is a different technique altogether.

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I did another polished up illustration to try and solidify my studies a little
ah, yeah, you got the gist of the pose down which is the important part. a lot of anime/cartoon styles are so specific with how they're drawn that even just a few misplaced lines can make it look off model. it's not very forgiving! I think doing some analytical drawings of still lives and stuff should help strengthen your eye for drawing correct angles and proportions. you've got the same lines, it's just their relationship to each other that's off
thanks man, if you're the same guy who's been suggesting stuff then I appreciate your help!

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Some scribbles and practice, all heavily referenced (copied, pretty much).

I'm pretty sure I need to start drawing from imagination (or at the very least memory) if I want to get better at all, but it's just so intimidating and frustrating. I start drawing something and it looks like such complete shit that I can't stand looking at it anymore and scrap it.

>> No.4700193
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would it be weird if i'd do faces like this?
I always liked putting eyes very low like this but get my heads made fun of

>> No.4700349

only if you keep the nose at that size

>> No.4700584
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>where do you workout?
>the library

if you like it that way then you should just keep it and focus on improving anything else

Just don't end up like pic related

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>> No.4700752

By the year 2030 you'll finally start working on lineart and colors

>> No.4701819

Nice, how long does it take you to finish a page of studies? As a beginner something like pic related takes me about an hour, even more when polishing.
I'm guessing I should focus more on quantity than quality at this point.

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Forgot image

>> No.4701829

You've got it backwards. Quality over quantity, speed will come with experience. You want to be drawing good stuff fast eventually, not shit stuff fast, right?

>> No.4701844

I get what you mean, but my heavy perfectionism slows down everything. I feel like I'd be better off filling pages with shit than spending hours on a single turd. At least I would build my mental library faster.

>> No.4701852

I understand but it will speed things up. You can try gesture drawing if you want to do lots of fast shit. And if it's about building up your visual library, search xuu shrimp method how to draw anything. Use that method for visual library.

Drawing slowly is the way to go. You'll get faster as you get used to it and learn from your mistakes. It's just how it is. Don't worry about how long it's taking you and worry more about learning to construct things accurately

>> No.4701899

Thanks for the pointers. I'll just keep at the same pace then and pray for improvement.
Also that xuu shrimp method is an eye opener. Makes me feel like I haven't been practicing the right way up to this point.

>> No.4701969

a page of studies like that usually takes me a little over an hour or so, and sometimes a bit longer if I'm having trouble finding good references within an episode. I do generally go for quantity over quality. though I try to get it pretty accurate to what's on the screen, I don't fuss too much over it if it's kinda janky. I'm more focussed on emulating the style and the proportions than I am on construction, so I find that pumping out a bunch of them quickly is better for developing a feel for the animator's shorthand. sorta like building an intuition for how things should look.
as a beginner I'm not sure what's best to focus on. spending time being really analytical and nailing down the construction is important for understanding. doing quick sketches to develop a style or a 'mode' for drawing is also important, since it'll inform your studies. if you're going to spend a long time on a drawing, I'd put more emphasis on getting the construction and proportions right rather than polish. if you're going to go for quantity, I would do a lot of varied studies on a consistent subject matter

>> No.4702069

I'll try sets of long-short sessions and see where they lead me.

>I don't fuss too much over it if it's kinda janky
I should really get into that mindset instead of hammering out every little mistake.

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>> No.4702379

Can you give me a reference? Nice work though.

>> No.4702402

(Kansai! Kemoket 8) [Tenshin Anman (Sanjiro)] Kemo Gal ni Aisarete Moto no Sekai ni Kaerenai

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>> No.4702764
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pic related, how do you make ultra thin line art?

do they just paint first and line art later?
draw thick lines and reduce it later using tools?
or is this just some next level shit

>> No.4702791

Anyone got any good references for male anime heads? I know they're a bit longer and sharper than female ones but whenever I draw them it always looks messed up

>> No.4702822

what kind of males? Ojiisan? bishounen? shota? bara? there's lots of different styles

>> No.4702832

are you retarded, this is just normal line art but thin

>> No.4702941

just draw a girl and call it male

>> No.4702951

i guess the closest one i am looking for is bishounen

>> No.4703025

Just be good with sensitivity, or alternatively sculp your lines with eraser

>> No.4703172

It's drawn using the Apple iPad Pro 12.9.
It's the only device that accurately creates perfect lineart.

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just draw boxes brah

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>> No.4703468

The Apple iPad Pro 12.9 has absolutely no parallax issues whatsoever, you are drawing exactly and precisely on the glass itself.
The Apple Pencil also draws ink in direct contact with the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 screen, unlike other, lesser, methods that rely on random magnetic fields.
This is why nothing else matches the Apple iPad Pro 12.9 in lineart.

>> No.4703472

Not even high end tablets designed for this type of work?

>> No.4703492

How long have you been trying ?

>> No.4703498

Wholesome poster.

>> No.4703502

Is it a good idea to re-do sketches? Like I just drew something with a reference, and I kind of what to redo it once a day until it looks decent.

>> No.4703926

It's good idea to redo sketches, but don't obsessed with it.
Once a day until it looks decent is obsessed with it.
Redo if you found too much spots to improve.
Or just come back to it when you think you had improved a lot.

>> No.4703936

Ahh I see this place is still filled with crabs.
Guess it will never change.

>> No.4704019
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trying to nail down muh style. and decide how i want my characters faces to look. so i did some nose and face studies

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>> No.4704029

Go away and spare us your bitching and moaning

>> No.4704038

Find bishounend artists and study them. Trace construction over their faces, analyze what makes it different from female faces

>> No.4704042

im a retarded phoneposter

>> No.4704063

Found the crab.
Just a easy effortless bait and it came crawling right out of his shit hole.

>> No.4704084

Found the crab
Just coming to bitch and moan about everyone and never speak of art
Go back to the Pol and Twitter threads

>> No.4704087

Lol y u so mad?

>> No.4704296

You just confirmed the effect bruh

>> No.4704410

it's called eightstudio or something, everyone that comes out of it is a pro animefag
but it's korean

>> No.4704631
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Does her head look too weird?
I wanted to do a style similar to んも(https://twitter.com/nanmokaken)
where he makes the cranium large and the facial features lower on the face.

>> No.4704708

>Does her head look too weird?
looks almost like an ayy lmao

>> No.4704720

your typesetting is fucking awful because the lines are so short and yes, her head looks bad. i know you posted that image earlier, but it looks laughable

>> No.4704728
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But i want to do heads like this.
Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong. I'm pretty sure I got the proportions right to this.

>> No.4704733

your eyes are too far apart, thats why it doesn't look good

>> No.4704736

you're drawing literal egg heads. that pic's head is a sphere. the body proportions are more adultlike in >>4700193

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>> No.4706254

I hate you.

>> No.4706258

i was drawing characters from "here is greenwood"

>> No.4706559

that's really good

>> No.4706620
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Alright you fucks, what character rakes in as many numbers as possible?

>> No.4706663

it doesn't matter if you don't draw or draw well lol

>> No.4706870

gerudo link

>> No.4707332
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Should the eye on the left be bigger and /or closer to the nose?

>> No.4707347
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Resized and fixed contrast

>> No.4707412
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>> No.4707479

Any FGO bitch, the ship bitches and its derivatives, the "only popular because demon waifus" game.

basically anything that's female, or resembles it. Make sure to also appeal to coomers to maximize profits

>> No.4707493
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hello anons https://www.pixivision.net/en/a/1733

>> No.4707499

These headlights of hers are disturbing.

>> No.4707516
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Beats me, go look up some English speaking fanartist with 100k followers and copy their use of hashtags or whatever.

>> No.4707528

Looks like shit

>> No.4707535
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>> No.4707705

I'm trying to draw lines of varying thickness for the "pen outline" of the character. The usual way to do this seems to be to use pen pressure -> thickness. Unfortunately no one gives more details past this point, they just say to use this setting.

My lines end up looking like shit because I'm not able to control the pressure properly. So the thickness is all over the place. Anyone have any more specific advice?

For example something I've tried is set it so an "average" line is 100% pressure, thinner lines are <100% pressure, and thicker lines are made up of several strokes. This approach didn't help, still looked like shit. But this is the kind of info I'm looking for.

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>> No.4707960
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I fixed the eye. Is this better?

>> No.4707963

Idk why you're here. This is so good.

>> No.4707996

It takes control and practice anon
It's not a setting that does the work for you.
Some programs have a tool where you can change line thickness by brushing over it though.
Not sure which ones. Csp maybe?

>> No.4708014

Yes it takes practice but I feel like I don't have the proper setup yet.

CSP can do that and other "tricks" with vector lines, but I'm mostly not interested because it's too laborious. I'd rather practice and get good at drawing lines.

>> No.4708196

>Yes it takes practice but I feel like I don't have the proper setup yet
It's literally just a skill you need to build up. There's no 'proper setup', some artists just ink everything with a hard round brush in PS with pressure controlling the thickness. There's no magic setup that will make you better at controlling your lines.

>> No.4708266

6 days and the thread still haven't reached limit yet.
Seems like you crabs did it.
You killed this place.
Good fucking job.

Look at >>4704019 & >>4706245 & >>4707347
Nobody even give them any replies.

Here's an advice to you new learners.
Don't Come back this shithole. EVER.
There's only crabs around here to shit on your works.
They provide no advice to help you improve.
They don't create a good environment for learners to feel comfortable to make mistakes.
This is the worst place possible for you to be.

>> No.4708269
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You should thank this guy, mascot of /asg/, kek.

>> No.4708271
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Is Demon Slayer the big name success that people said it was gonna be?

>> No.4708275

That's pretty much the point of no return.
Bunch of crabs attacking a new learner.
Proud of you, /asg/

>> No.4708278

Can't see shit.

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>> No.4708282
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Here’s a better pic.

>> No.4708301

Good thing this place is dead now, too many copyfags and /beg/tards.

>> No.4708310

no it doesn't

>> No.4708316

i think this thread is a lot better since grey sketch tranny killed himself, if this place is so bad as you say then why are you here? are you stupid of your parents are siblings?

>> No.4708401

this thread is where we keep the broken toys.

>> No.4708411
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loomis works on anime. just thought it was interesting. you have to adjust the proportions a bit but at least this is a great way to know what those proportions are so that you can then construct the character.

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the anime is ariel deluxe btw. it was pretty good.

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another example

>> No.4708449

which is what we've tried to tell people the entire time. no one listens and thinks there's something more to proportions than the same things humans have been using for the past few hundred years.

>> No.4708482

we've been telling people this but nobody listens

>> No.4708486

I feel like it's just sketch tranny himself trying to kill these threads again

>> No.4708490

this is great. What's the ref?

I think the bottom middle looks better than the final product. It's on the eyes

>> No.4708491

Never doubted you. Just wanted to share.

>> No.4708530

I wonder if this anon has improved by now

>> No.4708571
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i dont know about the legs

>> No.4708580
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What's the best way to color over lineart like this?

>> No.4708583

the knees in both leg need more work but the one in the left it's just a 90º angle

>> No.4708589

>grey sketch tranny killed himself
Did he actually kill himself lmao? What happened?

>> No.4708596

left looks good, but right calf should have that shapely leg thing that women get from high heels.

>> No.4708602

>lock the lineart layer
>color on the lineart layer
>new layer above lineart
>set new layer to "clip at layer below"
>color your lineart on the new layer

>> No.4708604

just figuratively. he stopped posting here after some anons roasted the guy

>> No.4708605

if you don't know the basics of digital you shouldn't even be bothering with this

>> No.4708606

cut the guy some slack he's still learning

>> No.4708701

It was from imagination, but the character is okita souji from fate

>> No.4708721

>if you don't know the basics you shouldn't be bothering with the basics

>> No.4708734

learning clipping masks, locking transparency, and layers are the basics that would allow someone to understand how to color line art

>> No.4708736

yet you told that guy not to bother with those basic things because he doesn't know the basics?

>> No.4708860

seriously, what the hell?
>How do I do this?
>If you don't know, don't bother trying to know
are you out of your fucking head? just tell them how to do it

>> No.4708872

Use a mask on your line art layer, if you right click on the layer it should give you the option.

>> No.4708916

he didn't killed himself, he just vanished from ic with the other faggot that couldn't take any critic about his shitty "anime" art

>> No.4709179

good shit anon, got any blog?

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>> No.4709913

I hate the face so much

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I think relying on soft round / air brush is harming my painting quality. What kind of brush and settings do I use to get a painted look? Is it hard round with opacity pressure? It looks so weird and feels weird to paint with this.

And what about blending brush? I feel like the mixer brush in Photoshop is hard to use, if it's even used/useful at all.

>> No.4710309

I want her to crack my skull open with her kicks

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>He doesn't know you can color the line art with a single hit of a button
It really takes a special kind of stupid to actually manage and turn a simple task into a complete clusterfuck and at the end of the day you end up with an entire thesis on the behavior and approach between "not bothering to learn x unless you know the basics of x" and summarize it with "if you don't know the basics of x don't bother learning at all."

Fucking hell these threads are the pinnacle of mental retardation.

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>> No.4710469

all that anon did was ask a simple question which got answered, with another anon being an asshole about it for no reason. it's people like you why these threads are so bad

>> No.4710475

>no, u!
Keep spinning that wheel you fucking retard.

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>> No.4710487

you've made a mountain out of a molehill, it's definitely you.

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>> No.4710576

do you fuckers not set their lineart layer to multiply?

>> No.4710587

Multiply won't do anything unless the lineart is already colored.

>> No.4710775

Any good tutorials on how to draw anime heads? I've never draw anime style before.

>> No.4710815
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this amuses me greatly

>> No.4710925

you can apply the loomis head structure to an anime face, you only have to modify the proportions a bit

>> No.4711294

The entire fucking point of Loomis' head is to teach people universal landmarks of the human head that are crucial to understanding stylisation. Fun with a pencil literally starts off with drawing super deformed bean heads.

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This isn't really anime and I don't draw anime stuff regularly but they're two characters from Japanese media so the influences are there.

You get points if you recognise which characters they are.

>> No.4711411

Oh fucking hell her upper arms are too long. Never, ever notice this shit until it's in a thumbnail.

>> No.4711432
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How do I come up with interesting poses?

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>> No.4711445

You ruined Merle. Good technique and art but awful aesthetics

>> No.4711461
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m8 his bitch has a straight-up stink face throughout half the show lmao

Nice ID though.

>> No.4711470

This, but unironically.

>> No.4711488
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I keep fucking up the shading I s2g

>> No.4711494

The skintone is way too bright for the rest of the composition. Try changing the tone of your shadows from a red to a muted purple and make the lines crisper/harder in places where the object blocking the light is closer is closer to the body. Everything is all blurry and that's not how shadows work.

>> No.4711506

Will do, thanks anon

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Next time you run into a problem like this try viewing your piece in grayscale. The crazy values will give you an immediate indication of where you're going wrong. As you can see the skin shadows are so light they're barely there, whereas the rest of the shadows are almost black they're so dark.

>> No.4711545

Damn, that's mega useful, I'll make sure to add that to my workflow. Hopefully it'll suck less lmao

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Honestly how’d I do

>> No.4711638
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Instead of focusing on the individual lines when you eyeball, focus more on the underlying shape and structure

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Holy shit I think I just finally figured this out.

This is the first anime face I've drawn from imagination that I'm not completely embarrass by. Fuck that took forever.

>> No.4711812

I feel like I just squeezed out an enormous shit after sitting on the toilet for months.

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>> No.4711874

LOL brow too big?

>> No.4711875

I always try to but struggle

>> No.4711884

Not that guy, lately I have been practicing hips and I generally use simplified shapes for the pelvis bone, I couldn't for the hell of me come out with a real one out of thin air. My results are there but they are incredibly lackluster, how the fuck do I achieve your level?

>> No.4711952

thanks! that helps

>> No.4711971

Damn that’s amazing. What courses did you follow?

>> No.4711996

I don't know about you, but I have a hard time imagining Mio in such a scene

>> No.4712018

Top of the head a bit wide yea

>> No.4712019

They look like goblins

>> No.4712027
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I did some more studies from FLCL, this time of Canti. his model changes from episode to episode (even sometimes form shot to shot), so it's kinda hard to tell what some parts of him are supposed to actually look like
is yours the one on the right? I think you really improved the foreshortening on the raised leg, the size increase really helps make it more dynamic. the face lost some of its appeal, but I don't think I'd notice if the original wasn't right next to it
looks great, super expressive line work. I think you could sacrifice some of the anatomical accuracy on the face of the girl of the left, the face shapes look 'correct' but not necessarily appealing. drawing interlocking fingers is complicated as fuck, but I think you nailed it pretty well here
I think figure drawing would come in handy for that. I had a teacher once who told us to come to a figure drawing session with a model sheet and some reference of a cartoon/anime character of choice and to draw that character doing the model's poses. pretty fun exercise!
I think the details turned out really well, you definitely have more patience than I do. I dunno if it's because I'm turning my head sideways to look at it, but the drawing looks pretty accurate to the ref too, really well observed
looks pretty good, those shadow shapes are very old school anime looking. don't let the epiphany escape you, keep drawing more!

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I also did an illustration from imagination again to try and get the style down, but it didn't turn out super well. might do another eventually

>> No.4712054

Any reference for anime hands? If I draw from life it looks too fat/stubby

>> No.4712058

Learn to draw hands first.

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>> No.4712077

you need to know perspective AKA N-G-M-I

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literally nothing like the reference lol. i'm definitely getting lazy with my studies

>> No.4712145
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you can cheat by taking some interesting reference, drawing the figure's loomis style skeleton thing and then imposing your character onto it

>> No.4712226

You don't need to, the hip bone is there to illustrate the point. All you need are just those kidney shaped plates and you're good to go

>> No.4712262

it makes me uncomfortable to imagine what you used as reference for this

>> No.4712269

my cat bruh

>> No.4712278

I can draw hands in perspective from imagination but they look like man hands. Idk how to make them slender and cute without looking alien

>> No.4712286

how does lineweight works? do you just place them randomly?

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>> No.4712293

it depends on several factors like light, darkness, hard surfaces, soft surfaces, how close or away of the camera the subject is, etc. you'll develop a sense studying your fundies, color, pespective, anatomy.

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yeah I guess, I just look at some pieces sometimes and it feels random to me

>> No.4712432

Look at works where the finished work is just lineart

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>> No.4712515

is the one on the left Xiao from Dark Cloud?

>> No.4712548

It's honestly perfect if that's the case then.

Surprised anybody got that since I forgot to add her arm warmers when I started drawing her arms and she doesn't have a slingshot yet. That and hardly anybody played Dark Cloud.

>> No.4712676

I love Level-5's early stuff and just got back to my project of finally beating Demon Shaft. It would be cool to see Ruby in your style too!

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I'm actually doing a play-through right now (why I'm drawing Xiao, wanted to draw the two most influential catgirls from my childhood).

When I played the game as a kid I guess my disc got fucked, because it always froze midway through the Moon Sea. Could never manage to fix the disc so I never got to complete the game or experience the Demon Shaft. The game is fun, but goddamn it's a mess. You can tell it was an early-gen title and Level-5's first game. They really didn't understand the architecture or how to maximise the power of the PS2 at all.

Ruby is hot, but Witch Dancer was the real babe.

>> No.4713387

This was actually mind blowing, thanks

>> No.4713439


based Pin2D

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>> No.4713560

I wanna put shadows from the palm fronds onto this sphynx. Where should they go?? I'm so scared of shadows

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>> No.4713563

a qt but left arm is too shrivelled and short

>> No.4713653

The palm what
Theres no clear light direction
Whatever the case you can put them in between the toes at least

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I tried doing another, although the pose isn't particularly interesting
I did some studies of anime hands a little further up in the thread. taking an anime with a style you like and doing some direct copies can help a lot with deciphering what works and what doesn't
hard to say, you should plan out these sorts of things in the sketch/layout phase of the drawing, it makes big artistic decisions much less stressful. you could have one of the fronds casting like along the back, maybe one on the head obscuring the top half of the face in shadow if you want some drama. if you have a digital drawing program, you could try painting over your scan digitally to try and see what different set ups might look like
looool pretty sure they mean the leaves from the palm trees, not the palm of the sphinx's hand

>> No.4713814

>wanting to download the book collection
>mega is slow as fuck
FUCK is there any mirror?

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why do both of these look terrible, and why does the “don’t” side look better?

>> No.4713920

Yes lmao I definitely meant the palm trees not the paws

And yes i should have planned earlier, I am so bad about that. I hate to think of all the times i've completely started over because I didn't plan well enough and I need to make adjustments. Here at least the only adjustment I want to make is the shadow. I'll try doing a mock up on my tablet before I attempt anything, thank you!

>> No.4713930

imagine taking advice of anime style from a western artist

>> No.4713963
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True KEK
Try this

>> No.4714024

considering that the study of anime should be mostly rooted in memorization, what would be a good way to use a flashcard program like anki to help with it?

>> No.4714028

there is no good way to use anki for art. srs is nothing to do with drawing.

>> No.4714036

The center palm would surely carry a shadow from mid right back to left buttocks/leg

>> No.4714038

i understand where you're coming from, as art is supposed to be original and creative. srs can't help with that part. but what about the parts that you should memorize? for instance i've been using it to study the muscles, their origins and insertions.

>> No.4714047

>Draw your references from memory after letting time pass from when you did your
tracing and copying. It will help to stare at and analyze your reference for a few
minutes before letting time pass. After you complete your memory drawing, let some
more time pass before you compare it with the reference and review your notes and
above is from a guide in the sticky, and it sounds exactly like spaced repetition lmao. just want a way to efficiently memorize, not just study drawings from memory randomly and ineffectively.

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>All you need are just those kidney shaped plates and you're good to go
I'm not good to go, my art is both bad and extremely inconsistent. Problem is I understand I need to practice perspective and simplified shapes to properly convey things on space, but.
a) Even with practice my perspective is crap, I'm not expecting to be a master but I'm failing to get a basic understanding and foundation where I can work from. Things get only worse when the trunk is not going towards the same vp as the hips and even worse when adding the rest of the elements such as limbs, I don't even know how to practice perspective effectively.
b) Even if I can put a hip on a reference when deconstructing, I cannot put them properly when constructing without reference

>> No.4714089

looks like anatomy for sculptors?

>> No.4714101

something wip for /a/

you could probably get away w/ making this cuter/more charming by taking out or downplaying some excessive definition here and there even if it looks fine anyways
you got a blog or something where i can see your progress or any tips/recommendations for gesture/anatomy?

my childhood amounted to Dark Cloud 2 for PS2 and Megaman Z 3 for GBA SP, both picked up from the side of the road

ironically i never got past the forest in Dark Cloud 2 either, but that's because I was a retarded kid, not cause my disc was broken

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forgot to attach image

>> No.4714115

built like a tree trunk

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a) Understanding perspective is a matter of experience. Take pictures, visit places. You need to build a large library of reference both mentally and physically/digitally. Nothing beats real-life experience. Of course, you'll need to read up on theory and apply them, such as point perspective rules or rule of thirds in composition. I sometimes like to take photos of figurines to test out how the composition/perspectives would roughly be like and it's invaluable to my work

b) Don't worry about drawing from memory. That comes with years of practice. Right now, your focus should be on getting your fundamentals down to build yourself up to the next step

>> No.4714275

>Right now, your focus should be on getting your fundamentals down to build yourself up to the next step
This is what I'm aiming for at the moment.
>Of course, you'll need to read up on theory and apply them, such as point perspective rules.
This is what I'm failing to accomplish altogether.

>> No.4714306
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Who are your art influences bros?
The actual ones, not the "I'm gonna call them that to make them feel special" type.

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fuck me if my art doesn't look nothing like my idols

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How's this one?

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I added some colour.

>> No.4714605

Kawaii !

>> No.4715100


This isn't even anime

>> No.4715332

You're not even anime.

>> No.4715382

Fuck I came here to ask for this.

God I needed a good laugh.

There's just something about that Sasuke that makes me chuckle every time. Reminds me of how I used to draw I guess.

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>> No.4715412

Thank you

Jesus Christ

I'm saving this to my desktop

>> No.4715417

It's so good lmao

>> No.4715520
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You did do some studies today, right anon? At least one? You're not slacking off, are you?

>> No.4715522

he got so good he turned pro and stopped posting. that's what happens to anyone who sticks with the /asg/ method for more than a week

>> No.4715533

seems like you need to practice more the looking from the top angle, find some real reference and break it down to grids and planes to see how it works.

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This is what i have now.
I occasionally check the thread in ic.
But i had given up on this crab filled shit hole and is in a discord now.

>> No.4715773

Good to see you are still at it.

>> No.4716252

The draftsmanship quality for this show is off the charts.
I'm honestly shocked everytime I'm reminded this is a TV show, and not an OVA or feature film. Sure, they have the occasional repeat frames here and there, but the overall quality is pretty damn crazy imo.

>> No.4716370

looking for that soft brush/lasso tool skin rendering tutorial that gets posted every so often

>> No.4716805
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>and is in a discord now

>> No.4716829

>still chicken scratching
>still symbol drawing
>still drawing kids
so you were looking for a circlejerk, not actual advice

>> No.4716843

That's not chicken scratch
But surprise surprise the crab turns out to be a discord tranny

>> No.4716850

check the hair

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>still drawing kids

>> No.4716919

So much this.
>>4716829 your a complete idiot.
Drawing kids is good..
fuck off you religion maniac brain dead scum.

>> No.4716962

Bros what are best resources to read and write Japanese to embrace my weaboo dream?

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>> No.4717164

check /int/

>> No.4717256
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As long as i'm not here to be dragged down by the crabs, i'm improving slowly everyday.
Seeing that i'm still living rent free in some mentally ill anons here, it's the best decision i made to leave this shithole and found a discord instead.
No wonder the crabs are so afraid of discord.
Because everyone is trying to improve there, and have zero tolerance towards crabs behavior.

Anyway, i'm currently learning to draw hair. Maybe i will be back here again some other time.

>> No.4717355
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Working on a bunne

>> No.4717374

Eyes too far apart
Does her muff also have a fluffy white puff?

>> No.4717392

Oh lmao I'll fix that

I'd like to think so :^) but I prefer it to be clean shaven

>> No.4717399
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Not sure if you're still around anon, but hopefully this'll help you out

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>> No.4717469

Really appreciate it but I should have been more clear. My problem is that my perspective is shit and always wrong, don't know how to practice it properly and even when studying the theory I fail to apply it when doing attempts. So even if I'm successful on simplifying shapes the end result is still absolutely terrible. For instance with the examples you just gave me I would fail at attempting any kind of different rotation or foreshortening.

>> No.4717487

It looks like his use in the ref is a bit more dynamic as well. Notice how his leaning back rather than just standing straight?
Watch a few tutorials on youtube about dynamic posing, it really goes a long way.
Keep up the good work, anon!

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Your best bet is drawing from observation. Get a physical object, rotate it and draw still life

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>> No.4717546

ganbarre anon

>> No.4717566

Either make the scarf tighter or put the scarf over her chin It looks bad in real life too if you wear it like that because no neck

>> No.4717574

>>why you should copy anime

>> No.4717575

Just draw lmao

>> No.4717576

how much more do i have to suffer

>> No.4717586


>>4717399 here, post your stuff, I'll see what I can help you out with

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Not too bad, honestly. One main issue is how the face is structured, ie how long it is. You might want to take a look at the art from the artists you like and "borrow" that style.

Anime usually has rounder heads for the cuteness factor, so you can try rounding things out

>> No.4717660

>given up on this crab filled shit hole
>is in a discord now.

Only loneliness can create a great artist

>> No.4717730
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>You might want to take a look at the art from the artists you like
not really good cause i love every style and good art i come across
i tried drawing a cuter one

>> No.4717733

>like an artist
>do a study
>ask for critique
>anons point out all the shit anatomy in the reference instead

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Last ones:

>> No.4717780

Pick 3 artists that has the most influence in your art, then go from there

>> No.4717992
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Studied Kojima today
note to self: draw bigger

>> No.4718036

since you guys are more likely to use cps I'll ask here
is there any book/site/resource on how to use digital brushes, especially in clip studio paint, I usually just use the lighter pencil but it's kinda cause I have no real idea on what I'm doing in terms of pencil, in traditional drawing there's tons of stuff explaining different pencil but i'm having a real hard time finding resources for digital

>> No.4718057

ctrl paint and it's the same thing. ignore her mixing settings but you want a basic hard round and soft round

>> No.4718088
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so ill just copy them?

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I need some advice on whether it is possible or not to draw like this do you need to goto some art school or can you be self taught to do this. i know naver a korean website has alot of classes to pretty much teach you how to draw this because the artist is LITERALLY ON THERE TEACHING AND I CANT LEARN CUZ IM NOT KOREAN https://en.class101.net/collections/most-popular-courses/products/wedji
anyway this is the only thing close to any western courses ive seen online SCAM or good?

>> No.4718299

Copy what you like about their style, yes

>> No.4718432

Where can I find some good chink speedpaints? I want to see how they work

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>> No.4720555

This is so good but also so creepy.

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