/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4708283]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make YOURSELF feel proud.

previous thread >>4705079

READ THE STICKY if you're new or need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

[Anonymous No.4708287]

Loondies and just draw

[Anonymous No.4708288]

Could someone point me where to put the lights here please?

I have intended the weapon to irradiate a gold light and to reflect on the characters faces.

I was thinking that the scene where the gun and the characters are is under the shadow of a tree, so there is a stronger light coming from the gun.

Much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4708290]

>>4708283
could I make more than 10 dollars with something like this?

[Anonymous No.4708293]

>>4708283
Ive been doing the Brent Eviston course for a few days- when using the overhand grip the way he shows are my supposed to look scratchy since drawing circles and stuff I’m going over it a few times lightly? Is it normal as well to find it difficult to draw vertical lines overhand?

[Anonymous No.4708294]

>>4708290
yes, 100% this is some solid pixel art

[Anonymous No.4708296]

any advice ?

[Anonymous No.4708299]

>>4708294
cool

[Anonymous No.4708300]

>>4708293
going over a line multiple times is not scratchy, putting small lines together to make a bigger line is scratching, overhand grip take a while to get used to as youve used trigrip for 20 years or however old you, going over it a few times is fine anon, itll lessen as you get more confident in the grip dw about it

>>4708296
too much wrong, go do a course like loomis

[Anonymous No.4708303]

>>4708300
Thank you for the advice bro <3

[Anonymous No.4708305]

>>4708303
keep at it anon <3

[Anonymous No.4708308]

Posting in /beg/ mainly to hold myself accountable.

[Anonymous No.4708309]

>>4708308
look at ear placement and the size of the forehead, why both doing construction and then not following it?

[Anonymous No.4708324]

>>4708288
It's really hard to say anything without knowing where the natural light is. Is this at noon? At sunset? Where is the gun in relation to each character's face?

[Anonymous No.4708326]

>>4708309
My bullshit shading hides it but the construction was wrong. I doubled down on bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4708328]

>>4708296
If you made this without reference: stop drawing without reference for now.

If you made this with reference: read Drawing on the right side of the brain.by Betty Edwards.

[Anonymous No.4708329]

>>4708328
What even is this? Is this OC or is this part of some TV show or game?

[Anonymous No.4708330]

>>4708329
It Bleach.

[Anonymous No.4708333]

>>4708329
I didn't make that pic lol, I posted it because that anon's work reminded me of that one.

[Anonymous No.4708339]

>>4708308
You made the nose and mouth too small and the nose is too high up. This is one of those cases where you really need to line up all the landmarks on the ref and figure out what goes where and how big it is in relation to other things. For example, the corners of his mouth don't line up with his tear ducts like you've drawn.

[Anonymous No.4708343]

day 17, starting to see some improvements, hair is still hard for me but its getting there

[Anonymous No.4708346]

>>4708343
Do you just draw 1 face a day and call it good?

[Anonymous No.4708348]

>>4708328
yeah without the reference. Guess im not there yet. Back to references it is. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4708349]

>>4708346
uhhh kinda, as i mentioned before i have my tablet by my side and when im browsing and see a face i think looks cool then i will draw it using the reference, and then at night i draw one face from my imagination, past few days though ive started loomis and im about 30 pages in

[Anonymous No.4708353]

>>4708346
i also do some quick sketches using
http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en

with 2 minutes on each face

i kind of try and do it like gesture, try to get the feeling and the emotion of the face in the fewest lines, but to answer your question in general yes i just draw a face a day and call it good

[Anonymous No.4708355]

>>4708324
Is at noon. Both of the characters are facing each other with the gun in the middle, irradiating light at their faces. The light of the gun is gold.

Is basically a Fortnite comic.

Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.4708357]

>>4708346
heres all 17 if you or anyone cares

[Anonymous No.4708368]

[Anonymous No.4708388]

Is anything off? Or cute?

[Anonymous No.4708389]

>>4708368
dont do lips as a blob , they need to be subtle, the mind knows what a face is it can fill in the rest, do them more like this

>>4708343

in general mouths will be filled in when you paint not with one single pen colour

[Anonymous No.4708405]

>>4708296
Was the pink haired girl Belle Delphine?

[Anonymous No.4708406]

>>4708355
it's useless for someone to just tell you how the light falls because that won't make you understand why, that would be like drawing a character without arms and asking for someone else to do the arms for you then calling it critique. at least make an effort to figure it out yourself and then ask for help.

[Anonymous No.4708412]

>>4708388
the ear is way too back in the head and the neck is too wide, try diving the head in a sphere as reference

[Anonymous No.4708413]

>>4708355
Well in any case if the gun is on the ground then the light from it should be coming from below the characters' heads, and I have 0 idea how strong you want that light to be; I assume you don't want their entire faces to turn orange.
I guess my advice would be to try to recreate this scenario in Fortnite and use the lighting on the characters' faces as a reference.

[Anonymous No.4708418]

>>4708389

[Anonymous No.4708429]

>>4708418
better but youre still drawing the mouth as a symbol, her mouth doesnt look like thta, FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL the form anon f e e l the form, i need to see i know you know that there is some plump to them lips, its a 3d object, what i see on your page is 2d, you have not convinced me its 3d, feel anon feel, just go watch a video on mouths, takes like 10 minutes and will be instantly better

[Anonymous No.4708430]

how can I improve the line work?

[Anonymous No.4708431]

PLEASE THESE FUCKING HAnDS ARE KilLinG mE

[Anonymous No.4708439]

Haven't lurked through the generals in a bit, here's something recent

[Anonymous No.4708441]

>>4708431
dont get too caught up in one piece anon

[Anonymous No.4708443]

>>4708430
By having single, concrete black lines instead of a bunch of light half-ass strokes. At this point just make another layer and draw the solid lines on top, and erase your sketchy ones. The original image looks like it was hastily made in MS paint anyways; honestly I don't think it's a good idea to be drawing shit like this.

[Anonymous No.4708454]

>>4708429
thnks bro

[Anonymous No.4708464]

This is Longo the Nefarious. Do NOT call him Slenderman he is NOT related at all to Slenderman!

[Anonymous No.4708485]

>>4708308
>>4708339
Thanks anon, that helped. Always worried about making the features too large even when I follow construction.

[Anonymous No.4708489]

>>4708441
H O W D O T H E H A N D

[Anonymous No.4708500]

>>4708406
I get where you are going, but this is my homework and i need to figure it out now, deadline is in an hour and i still have a lot of work to do.

This is why i hate school, it values score over quality but whaever, i am already there. Please help.

>>4708413
Yeah gun is below and light is coming from there. I indeed want the light to cover their faces giving an impression of being somethin pretty valuable and dazzling. But do whatever you think will look nice.

[Anonymous No.4708506]

>deadline is in an hour
You fucked up. Literally just wing it at this point and hope for the best.

[Anonymous No.4708507]

>>4708464
Nice fat slenderman

[Anonymous No.4708511]

>>4708500
Anon, don't wait until the last minute for homework, you'll gain nothing from the exercise.

[Anonymous No.4708519]

>>4708500
we aren't here to give you homework answers.
figure it out by learning the material, clearly if you're being asked to do lighting then the class has covered it.
this is an 18+ board anon

[Anonymous No.4708520]

>>4708511
I didn't. Ass teachers leave lots of homework in a short period of time.

School also sucks ass. I even have maths, in an art major.

[Anonymous No.4708528]

>>4708519
We don't have classes, we need to investigate and do the stuff by ourselves and that's what i am doing. I learned to draw this and to use Photoshop last week, so don't be pretentious and call me an underage.

[Anonymous No.4708535]

>>4708528
With only a few minutes left to finish this you'd be better off just doing it instead of arguing here. Finish it as best you can, submit it, then show your finished piece to us for critique.

[Anonymous No.4708537]

When does drawing get fun? I've been doing Loomis and Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain, but have been dreading the time spent. I find myself getting more frustrated putting the lines to the paper than actually enjoying myself.

[Anonymous No.4708544]

It's gonna be a long night, so I'm gonna repost my progress several times. Is it really going to stunt my progress if I set guidelines like this? Is it that different from measuring with my pencil and my eye, and then mapping out the key points?

[Anonymous No.4708545]

thanks for any advice

[Anonymous No.4708549]

>>4708544
/beg/ here, but that's how hyperrealistic artists draw their pieces, but a lot of those guys start to look really sloppy when they stop copying. I'd imagine you don't internalize much of the knowledge when you're basically a fucking xerox.

[Anonymous No.4708561]

Silly question, but what's the best way to learn how to draw comfortably? When I try to zone in on my paper and make small lines that are straight, or focus in on small details, I get extremely uncomfortable with my right shoulder and arm in general. Is form important?

[Anonymous No.4708567]

can you help a beg out? which one is the best? or at least the less worse?

[Anonymous No.4708570]

>>4708567
Left is better, the face on the right is very strange.

[Anonymous No.4708572]

>>4708545
Have a look at the sticky.
Read "keys to drawing" or "drawing on the right side of the brain"
Have a look at the block-in method.
Draw from reference.
Conciously work on the quality of your lines.

[Anonymous No.4708577]

>>4708567
jesus dude i have seen your work for years i think, but you really haven't improved much, do you study to get good sometimes?

[Anonymous No.4708578]

>>4708528
>we need to investigate and do the stuff by ourselves and that's what i am doing
Obviously not if you're crawling to 4chan for the answers. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4708582]

>>4708545
you're drawing symbols and the proportions are fucked in 10 different ways. also your lines look terrible.

at your stage, I'd recommend reading "drawing on the right side of the brain" or "fun with a pencil", whatever you want.

more specific advice:

eyes too big

learn to draw a frontal view before trying complicated angles

don't do fucking floating head, try to draw the neck at least.

if you are not using reference, use a reference.

stop chicken scratching

[Anonymous No.4708595]

>>4708431
Its fucking over. I'm going to be stuck doing pic related for the next day or two. critique pic related and tell me if anything is off ig :(

[Anonymous No.4708597]

>>4708595
and as a bonus
>Me

[Anonymous No.4708601]

>>4708293

Also currently doing Brent Eviston. Seems like your shapes are too dark from what I understand. Also having trouble with vertical lines and any oblique lines from 90 to 180 degrees. But I think it would come with practice.

[Anonymous No.4708607]

>>4708597
are you using any anatomy book

[Anonymous No.4708616]

>>4708607
one is coming in soon enough. 1 to 2 weeks give or take

[Anonymous No.4708621]

>>4708616
you can just pirate with 5min in google

[Anonymous No.4708625]

>>4708621
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Anonymous No.4708643]

I think loomis fully clicked

[Anonymous No.4708650]

>>4708643
Is that what you really want to be drawing, anon?

[Anonymous No.4708653]

>>4708650
Cute old ladies? Sure, I thought she was kind of adorable, I want to make her a cottage.

[Anonymous No.4708659]

>>4708643
Loomis? Is that how you learned to draw so good????

[Anonymous No.4708662]

>>4708643
This is really nice anon

[Anonymous No.4708663]

>>4708643
right eye and ear still needs tweaking but yeah you got it down

[Anonymous No.4708673]

>>4708659
thanks,yeah but not only loomis, I guess I haven't fully worked through all the "/beg/ books" but I've done exercises from a lot of them (perspective made easy, keys to drawing)

my first few "blooks" were super fuckin bad

[Anonymous No.4708681]

>>4708544
nope, keep going that's just how you learn how to stop symbol drawing and draw better. Betty Edwards explained it in her book.

[Anonymous No.4708709]

>>4708549
Yeah that's not really what I want to do, but right now it's really time consuming to keep measuring and remeasuring everything with just my pencil.

>>4708681
Thanks anon, I'll keep going like this then.

[Anonymous No.4708755]

I think I'm done with the proportions; Is there anything I should do or keep in mind before I move on to the values? I don't know what the digital painting workflow is like.

[Anonymous No.4708766]

I can't do dynamic poses. I did this with ink, no undersketch. and no reference. should I learn figure drawing before I can get good?

[Anonymous No.4708768]

>>4708766
>should i learn to draw figures before i learn to draw figures in dynamic poses?
hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Anonymous No.4708839]

>>4708755
The head is constructed wrong. Proportions are fine but they are not the only thing that makes a head look like a head. Box in the shapes, try making the drawing not look flat from the start. Step back, study the construction, a little bit of anatomy and try it again. Values shouldn't be just trying to find the right shade, it should be a representation of the relation of a plane to another. There are links to all of these study materials on 4chan somewhere, pretty sure there's a thread on it.

[Anonymous No.4708851]

>>4708709
gridding is not a good habit to get into, it's time consuming and doesn't teach you to understand how shapes relate to each other.

[Anonymous No.4708853]

>>4708839
look at his previous post >>4708544 - he didn't do any construction at all, just copied it over with a grid.

[Anonymous No.4708866]

>>4708839
>>4708851
Should I have just drawn the contours without guidelines? It's way more time-consuming for me to keep having to hold my pencil up to the screen for every single line but if that's the better practice I'll do it.

[Anonymous No.4708902]

>>4708768
>both villpu and Michael Hampton books start with gesture/figure drawing before going into the details of anatomy, joints and such
aren't they implying that learning the gesture/figure drawing comes before learning anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4708908]

Just started keys to drawing, haven't done the shoes but did two drawings based on that exercise so I know it's not the best but how is it? What can I do? As you can see I prefer the right eye well left one here to the other one, looks more organic? I have no idea about shading or expressions but wanted to try my hand at that

[Anonymous No.4708910]

>>4708908
Original

[Anonymous No.4708915]

>>4708902
drawing dynamic poses requires a pretty decent understanding of figure drawing, but you don't need a ton of anatomy to draw convincing figures from basic construction if you aren't planning to make them super detailed or rendered.

[Anonymous No.4708923]

>>4708908
>>4708910
If you're shading, you still want to fill in your center light. If you leave it blank then you have no way to draw the highlights on it except with a pencil color whiter than your paper.

[Anonymous No.4708927]

>>4708908
>>4708910
Anon, pay attention to your angles and your shapes. You worked through daddy dodson's keys yet?

[Anonymous No.4708933]

>>4708923
You're speaking alien to me right now, I really don't know how to shade but I'll use this to learn, thanks.
>>4708927
I'm just starting anon, wow it really makes all the difference, no I had no idea about that, my bad there but thank you for that redline. I didn't notice any of that

[Anonymous No.4708934]

>>4708927
woops didn't read your post right, keep working on keys >>4708908

[Anonymous No.4708940]

>>4708934
No worries anon, thanks again, I'll have a better drawing tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4708946]

>>4708933
The center light is the part that is actually in the light. That is, the right side of his face and most of his forehead. The highlights are the spots where the light reflects off of him, like the very bright spot on his nose, his forehead, next to his eye, etc.

[Anonymous No.4708973]

Scott Harris or Neil Fontaine?
>inb4 loomis
I learn better from videos.

[Anonymous No.4708979]

>>4708866
Understanding things makes you able to do your own "people", not just copying. Knowing this things speed up copying a lot tho. Watch any portrait artist doing it and you'll see they fully understand how the subject works (Watch Oliver Sin demonstration). You wont need to measure things as constantly as you imagine. It's a habit. Practice making relations between sizes and distances in the things around you as if you would draw them. The contour is the only thing you need to draw out of thin air, the rest of the marks can be related to it after that. The reason people that do hyper realism use grids is the amount of detail that has to be perfectly placed. Personaly I dont see the difference between doing this and taking a photo. If two artist draw the same thing and it looks exactly the same, there's no personality, no emotion, no art essentialy. Just my opinion tho, a lot of people might disagree. From personal experience charcoal is the best media for portraits, never tried pastels. Helps a lot when understanding values too, gets really dark really fast and is easily erasable. And cheap. Won't be the best for hyperrealism for obvious reasons. Oh, corners. Corners are really fucking important. Things like the meeting of the planes in the forehead, cheekbones, bridge of the nose, etc. When you get to more complex positions with tilting and perspectives you'll find out they are often times more important than the actual lines. Find study material such as videos and books. Don't be too hard on yourself in the /beg/gining, You can make it, just put in the work. This is basically a bunch of things i wish i could have told myself from the past and that's probably why it'll sound like im projecting a lot.

[Anonymous No.4709006]

Drew literally all day today. Ended it with trying some full figures. I need to do more specific hand practice as well as faces, those two feel like my weakest points to me.

[Anonymous No.4709009]

>>4709006
Where did you get these images

[Anonymous No.4709013]

>>4709009
quickposes.com

[Anonymous No.4709015]

Basically learning from scratch since most of my drawing time has been fucking around and not studying
First and last one was looking at reference

[Anonymous No.4709017]

>>4709015
ref

[Anonymous No.4709025]

>>4708979
Ok, you make a convincing argument so I'll shelve this attempt and tomorrow I'll try it the hard way.
My problem now is just I can't draw from imagination, so I can only copy what I see. But if I'm copying something, then why settle for flaws when there's an absolute objective metric of what my drawing is supposed to look like right there in front of me? I'm not trying to infuse any personality or emotion into the drawing, I'm just trying to force my dumbass uncooperative arm to draw the exact thing that I want it to. Either way, I can acknowledge that making guidelines like that is doing it on easy mode.

[Anonymous No.4709037]

Thx to the anon the other day that said to harden my drawing, it looks less mushy now.
Any advice on how to improve the rendering of the ground and square concrete structures ?

[Anonymous No.4709039]

>>4709037
>square
Meant to say rectangular/boxy

[Anonymous No.4709061]

>>4709037
Holly shit. If that is a drawing, you're good.

[Anonymous No.4709089]

Update! Also feels weird drawing naked characters

Gonna coom eventually!

[Anonymous No.4709108]

>>4709061
Thanks m8, I did start by doing a line drawing with pic related as reference. With this drawing I wanted to experiment with hard marker type brushes

[Anonymous No.4709199]

I'm so damn bad at drawing the eyes among other things.

>>4709089
What have you studied to get to this level? I've seen your other stuff and I like it.
However, I think the right arm is too thick?

[Anonymous No.4709208]

>>4708439
Infinite soul

[Anonymous No.4709284]

>>4709199
fix le eyes n the bottom with pantsu

[Anonymous No.4709318]

>>4708755
That kind of line work isn't a good way to start off a study of this sort. It doesn't give you any indication of the value shapes you'll be painting.

[Anonymous No.4709405]

>>4709284
Yeah, I have a huge problem with drawing eyes. It just doesn't click with me. Tips would be greatly appreciated.

>n the bottom with pantsu
Could you clarify this more? The bottom of the pantsu is supposed to be her cheeks from the other end but either that's wrong or I just drew it very poorly?

[Anonymous No.4709426]

Attempt at drawing from imagination, haven't really done it before.
Pose came out kinda awkward and I'm not good at facial features tho.

[Anonymous No.4709446]

So, digital painting. I'm going through a course from ctrl+paint and the guy is using the soft round brush. I've also heard from other people that you should start out with the hard round and avoid soft brushes until getting decent with the hard one. Can someone explain to a digitalet when to use one over the other because I swear I keep getting conflicting information?

I did this exercise, following the videos, but using the hard brush, with the soft eraser occasionally when blending. Just want to know if I'm on the right track here, trying to not pick up bad habits.

[Anonymous No.4709461]

>>4708357
stop rending and instead just draw like 20 heads per day. i don't see the point in repeatedly polishing your turds. learn to draw a head already.

[Anonymous No.4709466]

>>4708927
this is good stuff

[Anonymous No.4709470]

>>4709405
Here you go, just keep working

>pantsu quickfixer was here

[Anonymous No.4709574]

Can I get some critique I used just the default lead on my new mechanical pencil so its kinda scratchy

[Anonymous No.4709593]

>>4709446
Oh. Only use hard round for your initial block in. Soft round is for blending.

[Anonymous No.4709606]

Hi /beg/ so first of all i am completely aware of most of the proportion issues i got on this wip and specially the god awful pose i drew for this lucario, im kind of ready to patch things up but i've noticed i have an issue whenever i do fan art of things

Im always at a constant debate about how on model i wanna go, like i always take official art as reference but then i look at art made by other people and i go, "that's interesting i'll try this" or " actually this proportions look cuter, so i start changing stuff and i end up with a weird mix which later motivates me to go back to my mentality of "i must stay on model"

is like if other people go off model when making fanart of a character i kinda like it, but if i go of model i like it for 2 minutes and then i push myself back to go on model , this creates a lot of issues later on like the hands here for example they felt way cooler a few days ago now i see they are real bad i think i started changing them once i saw the proportions of manga korrina

[Anonymous No.4709624]

>>4709089
theres no form from the waist and below and that arm in the left is way too big

[Anonymous No.4709635]

>>4708567
If you put your fingers over the heads, these drawings are pretty sweet. Nigga knows how to draw clothes. Anatomy is probably fucked but I don't read loomis or Betty so I dunno. Looking good to me. Just need to delete the head.

[Anonymous No.4709639]

>>4709461
but i am learning? compare 4/5 to 16/17, painting the faces takes me 2 minutes and i find really fun so i do it :)

[Anonymous No.4709665]

>>4709446
Here's mine. For the initial block in i didn't care since we have a mask, i used a soft for the complete block in plus the bottom part aswell, then i used a hard round for the cast shadow and blended it using a combination of layers and soft round. Id say it turned out pretty good.

[Anonymous No.4709673]

>>4709574
not bad anon. I really have nothing to say because there's alot you could do to further improve. Go do some fundies, master perspective, then go to form so you can get a much better understanding of drawing in 3d. after that learn how to shade simple objects. dont forget to do some anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4709680]

>>4709446
>>4709665
whoops, forgot the upload. This is what I made.

[Anonymous No.4709689]

>>4709470
Thank you, anon, I appreciate it. I will keep on working and then I will ascend.

[Anonymous No.4709693]

>>4709446
>>4709680
here's the other one I decided to do, except this time I had to make the damn mask, I stretched out the proportions a bit.

[Anonymous No.4709719]

>>4708283
How do I draw the torso and arms i've been spamming faces and portraits for too long

[Anonymous No.4709729]

>>4709719
learn anatomy maybe

[Anonymous No.4709738]

>>4709665
Using soft round for block-in is gambling with fate man. You'll block it in, everything's going well, you go through and make your hard and soft shadows, render it out, finish it up, looking nice. And then one day you look back at it and oh god why are there transparent streaks in it

[Anonymous No.4709739]

>>4709693
>>4709680
Those are very nice anon, I really like how clean they look and the glossiness of the sphere. I also gave the cube thing a try, fucked up my layer structure somewhere along the way and ended up painting and merging where I wasn't supposed to. These techniques are all pretty new to me and those layer stacks look like black magic at times, but I'm pleased that I managed to do some babby's first renders without getting frustrated and autistically deleting everything.

[Anonymous No.4709758]

>>4709719
have you started doing figure drawing anon?

http://reference.sketchdaily.net/en

set it to 1 minute, you must draw the pose of whatever is in the picture before the time runs out, do this 100 times and then set it to 30 seconds and 100 more, at the very least you will learn to use a line of action to draw stuff over it even if you don't really understand the anatomy in depth you will start drawing bodies

[Anonymous No.4709775]

>>4708328
PEAK SOUL

[Anonymous No.4709784]

I make sure that shit is opaque no matter what. you are right tho, but i was so fucking lazy since I already knew what to do, i kinda just skipped it.

[Anonymous No.4709812]

>>4709739
Don't stress too much about it. What i can see is that you have poor edge control but that comes naturally. The only reason I can polish mine to this degree is because ive studied the fundamentals of lighting once I knew how to tackle perspective and form. Matt will only teach you how to place the paint, and will barely explain why its forms look like that in the first place. Try reading perspective made easy by Ernest Norling or take Eric Olson's course on perspective. (its 69gb good fucking luck). after that try scott robertsons how to draw, but that one is pretty advanced, you cant go in without atleast knowing what a cone of vision is.

The point of all this is for you to learn how to draw form, because If you can't draw it, you can't shade it.

Once you learn how to draw basic forms properly, only then can you light them and plot their cast shadows. Scott robertson's how to render explains it pretty well, but you wont be able to get past the first few chapters without the knowledge from the previous book, that bastard is vague as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4709835]

>>4709758
>>4709719
Haven't done much figure drawing so I will check out the site. On the other hand, I tried making something with anatomy more in mind but something still feels off

[Anonymous No.4709847]

Autism FWAP and some free hand circle/straight line practice

[Anonymous No.4709853]

[Anonymous No.4709864]

>self-doubt kicks in

[Anonymous No.4709875]

>>4708296
Loomis

[Anonymous No.4709883]

>>4709847
HHNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG

[Anonymous No.4709896]

I'm super brand new but I'm a little confused. Do I use this sticky or the one at the top of the board? I was currently on Loomis FWAP.

I'm also still unsure if this is something that I'll enjoy. Doing the Picasso exercise was kind of annoying and I felt like I rushed it to get it over with. Would 20 hours be a good enough time investment to see if art is fun for me?

I'd like to draw cute girls without having to resort to Kisekae

[Anonymous No.4709905]

>>4709896
just draw cute anime girls if you find that fun, if you find studying boring then dont bother if you just wanna have fun, if you actually want to improve it shouldnt be a chore and will come naturally when you have a love for wanting to draw and improve, the love has to come first and then trhough that you will seek out certain lessons to improve in what you want to, e.g my mouths arent very good, so you go watch a video on mouths, just have fun breh

[Anonymous No.4709910]

>>4709896
also the more you draw the funner it becomes because you get better, which is more fun so you learn more which makes drawinf more fun because youre better and then you want ti learn and then thats fun and fun fun fun

[Anonymous No.4709923]

First time here, Im drawing for 5 years now, but i feel like beg when drawing from photo or even worse from life. I skipped almost all fundies except dynamic bible, my ink on paper lines smooth and confident, but subject matter is just, you know. I need loomis and all that stuff, im deep in my comfort zone of same characters, i always impress normies when starting drawing character from "imagination" without guidlines and structure, although anatomy bad, it looks confident.

Now im starting at the beggining because i hit the wall for a long time. Im reading "keys to drawing" and it says "spend half time or more on subject instead of looking on paper all the time" but it looks like shit, i draw fucking boots from the beggining in 5 minutes looking on paper all the time and just occasionally glancing at them and it looks ten times better when im spend 20 minutes "analysing" remembering each shape and line and putting on paper.

Should i just continue struggling or i can just forget about "look, remember, draw" and do it my way? I cant pmw right now, sorry

[Anonymous No.4709927]

>>4709758
Tried filling out a page at least

[Anonymous No.4709932]

>>4709905
MY anime girls come out like shit though. It's like a lack of knowledge on how to make them look good.

[Anonymous No.4709939]

>>4709932
ok so acquire the knowledge? im not sure what youre saying here, you complain that your faces are shit but then moan about learning? you cant have both lol, just watch videos if you find reading boring, theres 1000000s of resources for you

[Anonymous No.4709951]

>>4708288
>>4708535
Homework faggot here. Decided to ignore the deadline and just finished coloring the vignettes.

Any feedback/criticism is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4709976]

>>4709951
and invest in a drawing tablet. You probably draw with mouse or an extremely cheap one, or your painting program is paint.

[Anonymous No.4709984]

>>4709976
I draw with a mouse but did the line art traditional. Do you mean anatomy is wrong right?

[Anonymous No.4709986]

>>4709984
Yeah i got it. Perspective is bad.

[Anonymous No.4709987]

>>4709939
It's a weird conundrum of "don't want to draw because I don't know how" and "the act of drawing is kind of annoying"

I'm wondering if this even is for me or if I should just commission everything. I don't seem to have the same passion as other people I guess?

Is passion relevant?

[Anonymous No.4709991]

Soul or no ( this is not my art ) not that it matters anyways.

[Anonymous No.4709995]

>>4709991
Soul

[Anonymous No.4710001]

>>4709987
well passion came to me when i started to get a bit better and have more of a grip on how to draw, the better i get the more passion i get which it turn makes me better, its a snowball effect and the hardest part is to get the ball rolling, you cant for inspiration to hit to something life, you act first and inspire second

[Anonymous No.4710005]

>>4710001
* you cant wait for inspiration to hit to do something in life, you act first and inspire yourself second

[Anonymous No.4710053]

>>4710005
Yeah, maybe I should just continue for a bit to see if I like it. At least then, if I get decent and still don't enjoy it, I'd at least experienced the process of getting good.

[Anonymous No.4710070]

>>4710053
good luck anon

[Anonymous No.4710100]

>>4709923
> when I do this thing I'm already comfortable and used to it comes out okay
> but when I do this thing I'm not used to then it comes out shit
> should I continue doing the first thing or should I continue struggling with the second

Also, you're not supposed to be looking, remembering, and drawing lol You should be drawing WHILE looking at your subject and glancing at the paper.

[Anonymous No.4710137]

>>4708283
Is this character A E S T H E T I C?

[Anonymous No.4710143]

>>4709624
Honestly i was thinking the same thing, the bottom half bothered me and the arm felt really off, thanks for the 2md pair of eyes

Im proud of the fingers on the waist tho

[Anonymous No.4710147]

>>4709199
Honestly its just constant drawing, and small studies of gesture

Haha but thanks, i figured the arm was too thick

[Anonymous No.4710151]

Be honest with me bros, do I have potential, or should I just give up on art?

Also, forgive me for the poor image quality. I drew/am uploading this on a cellphone.

[Anonymous No.4710171]

>>4710100
Yeah i get that, im gonna struggle, im just thinking is there a point in doing it hard way if i have my way, would it bit me in the ass later if i would complete /beg/ it would be shit ether way

[Anonymous No.4710172]

Can somebody post general workflow guidelines (steps + time you should spend on them)? I always feel like I'm missing steps when drawing, or not spending enough time, but at the same time I don't want to stay polishing something I should've moved on from already. tia

[Anonymous No.4710191]

why yes i use loomis how could you tell

[Anonymous No.4710195]

I've randomly decided that I want to git gud at digital art, despite never really having done it before, so I'm stuck at /beg/ tier right now. I'm still unsure on what style I want to even go for, to render or to cell shade

I have no idea what I'm doing kek, so any advice or pointers on what I've done wrong would be helpful

[Anonymous No.4710201]

>>4710151
i like this anon keep going

[Anonymous No.4710248]

>>4710191

[Anonymous No.4710253]

>>4710248
yeah pretty much, i call him hammer jaw because it looks like he could knock you out with his jaw

[Anonymous No.4710270]

drawing is fun

[Anonymous No.4710279]

>>4710270

[Anonymous No.4710300]

>>4710201
You sure about that anon? My style is a bit basic for an 18 year old.

[Anonymous No.4710301]

Does this look ok? I feel like her bottom half is fucked. Any crits before I make the lineart?

[Anonymous No.4710304]

>>4710300
you sound like an insecure teenager anon just fucking draw if you like it and dont if you dont its that simple, how good you art is doesnt matter, how much fun youre having does, but yes in general i do like your art

[Anonymous No.4710305]

>>4710270
Fix yo proportions bro otherwise good.

[Anonymous No.4710311]

>>4710070
Thanks bud, question though. Is there anything different I should do for digital?

FWAP is a little harder not using a pencil haha

[Anonymous No.4710314]

>>4710304
I'm not particularly insecure, and I do enjoy art, but I don't wanna delude myself, y'know? If I'm bad at something, I'd rather direct my energy towards something I'm good at than continue to waste my time.

[Anonymous No.4710319]

>>4710311
different for digital in what way? and whats fwap?

>>4710314
you should direct your energy on having fun, having fun is not wasting time, unless you are pursuing a career in art just enjoy what you like :)

[Anonymous No.4710322]

I want to make some thicc drawings, is copying my favorita artist a good way to practice??

[Anonymous No.4710323]

>>4710322
if youre using it as reference rather than just tracing then yeah sure, try to understand the forms and why he drew the lines he did to represent the things he drew

[Anonymous No.4710328]

>>4710279
yes, I'm a bit retarded, I copied the figure then tried to rely as less as possible on reference to do the shadows, but it didn't worked out very well.

[Anonymous No.4710333]

>>4710328
just cross reference it after youre done and fix the issues, its digital art you can also delete and redo

[Anonymous No.4710337]

>>4709199
>I'm so damn bad at drawing the eyes among other things.
you're focusing on so many things
MIN 09:44
https://youtu.be/k0ufz75UvHs?t=583

[Anonymous No.4710341]

>>4710319
>you should direct your energy on having fun, having fun is not wasting time, unless you are pursuing a career in art just enjoy what you like :)
I actually would like to pursue a career in art someday (preferably in comics or animation, though that's a pipe dream). But obviously, I need to improve my style a lot before I can do that.

[Anonymous No.4710351]

>>4709635
> nigga knows how to draw clothes
y u lyin

[Anonymous No.4710352]

>>4710341
then follow your dreams anon, if youre under 30 dont worry too much, follow your love and passions

[Anonymous No.4710386]

>>4710311
You can 100% do Loomis with digital. The issue is that you've been using a pencil your whole life whereas you need to relearn how to draw with digital. If you're not sure you even like drawing just practice traditionally with a pencil and a bunch of printer paper. If you find that it's something you want to pursue then start working on getting into digital.

[Anonymous No.4710397]

>>4710352
And for the over 30 gang it's definitely okay to follow your dreams anyway but it's tough to break into the industry. That doesn't mean there aren't other avenues to "make it"... self publishing, freelancing, etc.

[Anonymous No.4710399]

Was trying to go for a Bilal-esque technique here, opinions?

[Anonymous No.4710439]

>>4710397
oh yeah 100% you just have to be a little bit more realistic as you have rent and food to buy etc so its hard to fully dedicate yourself

[Anonymous No.4710506]

I got Fun with a Pencil and Figure Drawing: Design and Invention from the sticky. What books should I get next?

[Anonymous No.4710511]

>>4710397
Breaking into the industry is ngmi tier.
The goal is becoming a furry-millionaire.

[Anonymous No.4710512]

>>4709446
beg but
The only time I might use the soft brush is for soft edges in shadow shapes, but a lot of times I'll do that with the hard brush as well just because I'm more comfortable with it.
I think people say begs should avoid the soft brush because it might trick them into thinking their rendering is smooth when in reality it's just a hazy mess.
Just pay attention to the edges of your reference, if they're very soft it's okay to go with the soft brush, otherwise try with a hard brush first.
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/hard-and-soft-shadow-edges

[Anonymous No.4710522]

any advice ?

[Anonymous No.4710531]

>>4710522
/beg/tard

[Anonymous No.4710574]

i feel we need to enofrce read the sticky more like /fit/ does, the threads not good if people draw there first ever face and come here like what do i fix? everything nigga, go read the sticky and read some damn books

>>4710522
>>4710399
>>4709719
>>4709199
>>4708545
>>4708418
>>4708296

[Anonymous No.4710581]

>>4710506
I'm not a fan of Hampton's book but maybe it will work for you. I strongly suggest you watch his lectures if you're going to follow his book.

[Anonymous No.4710637]

>>4710574
bet you're the same seething crab from earlier that was larping as being someone who works professionally in the industry. still waiting for you to pyw.

if you're not the same guy,
pyw.

[Anonymous No.4710643]

>>4710637
im completely beg, my work isnt good but how does that discredit my point? these people dont go learn and they just post shit here without even trying to read a book and then say what needs work when the answer is in the sticky

this is my work

>>4710191
>>4708343

[Anonymous No.4710652]

>>4710522
rammed through it

[Anonymous No.4710665]

>>4708290
Holly shit, this beautiful. yes.

[Anonymous No.4710710]

i really need to learn hair

[Anonymous No.4710712]

>>4710191
>

[Anonymous No.4710723]

>>4710712
eggman with neckman, who is going to gain the upper hand?

[Anonymous No.4710748]

i took a look at the sticky...i didnt realize there was so much shit in here. i guess i'll follow it accordingly.

[Anonymous No.4710756]

I'm still confused what sticky to follow. The one in this thread or the one at the top of the board? What's more up to date.

[Anonymous No.4710783]

>>4710756
>Anonymous 07/09/20(Thu)13:09:44 No.4710756▶
the one in this thread is more solid, i think.

[Anonymous No.4710786]

>>4710756
the one in this thread is so much better it's insane, only thing i would add is Iten's how to draw what you see and his accuracy guide

[Anonymous No.4710876]

Did the hand exercise, took more than 15 minutes and some lines might be skewed

[Anonymous No.4710893]

>>4710876
Ah now I see the issue, I messed up my perspective on the wrist, palm

[Anonymous No.4710896]

Got this far and stalled... is it worth it to keep going, and what should I focus on?

[Anonymous No.4710977]

Gamut masks almost feel like cheating

[Anonymous No.4710982]

>>4710399
I think it looks good

[Anonymous No.4711004]

>>4709318
Damn that's good. I'll retry it today.

[Anonymous No.4711037]

>>4709426
Stick to reference for now, you'll learn faster

[Anonymous No.4711056]

>>4710652
Check the cheek bone to eye

[Anonymous No.4711079]

Trying to fundie

[Anonymous No.4711091]

>>4710896
Go to /int/ -_-

[Anonymous No.4711099]

>>4711079
Foreshorten your boxes.
Proko shows an idiot-proof way to foreshorten boxes to get you started until you just do it without thinking:
https://youtu.be/3uEtdDvK6Xo

[Anonymous No.4711139]

>>4711091
/beg/ confirmed

[Anonymous No.4711141]

>>4711079
https://www.deviantart.com/nsio/art/Nsio-explains-Foreshortening-427366531
https://www.deviantart.com/nsio/art/What-s-difficult-about-perspective-for-you-713875932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaG-cBidCBw

[Anonymous No.4711142]

I'm utterly unable to situate the main body masses in this pose even drawing directly over the reference. Please help, I'm actually going fucking insane

[Anonymous No.4711164]

I don't know where to begin exactly but I know I symbol draw a lot so I'm trying to fix that and Feng Zhu said rock formations are good practice so how did I do so far?

[Anonymous No.4711169]

I don't know where to begin exactly but I know I symbol draw a lot so I'm trying to fix that and Feng Zhu said rock formations are good practice so how did I do so far?

[Anonymous No.4711178]

>>4711169
shadow is too light. If you have two values you can just paint the shadow black

[Anonymous No.4711192]

>>4711169
The Art & Science of Drawing - Brent Eviston (Udemy.com)
https://mega.nz/folder/r0w1iSoB#zPYwniAktcfCaxTL7p8Lcg
The Art & Science of Figure Drawing - Brent Eviston (Udemy.com)
>>4708649
https://mega.nz/folder/HkhCVAqZ#Kuts7ln7DQMgm8YE_svSFA

[Anonymous No.4711199]

[Anonymous No.4711217]

>>4711178
Even if some shadows are darker than others?
>>4711192
I don't have enough data to download any of this does he have a book maybe?

[Anonymous No.4711229]

>>4711217
For now you have two values in a painting. Shadow, and no shadow. They are almost the same, so the painting doesn't "pop". It is worth to lose some detail, to make the painting look 3d. You can also make the outline darker.

[Anonymous No.4711230]

can i ask what loondies is?

Im going into the sticky now, thanks everyone to contributing to a board like this

[Anonymous No.4711235]

>>4711230
loondies sounds like a dumb meme name for loomis+fundies, basically art fundamentals alongside one the ways to learn basic figure drawing

[Anonymous No.4711243]

>>4711192
Better than loomis for beggars.

[Anonymous No.4711253]

>>4708430
>>4708908
>>4709896
>>4710756
Don't waste your time >>4707139

[Anonymous No.4711258]

>>4711192
>he have a book maybe?
Nop

[Anonymous No.4711286]

>>4711235
thanks babe

[Anonymous No.4711289]

>>4711229
Should I use that line of thinking even on humans?

[Anonymous No.4711296]

>>4711142
how about thinking about it while taking that pose

[Anonymous No.4711297]

>>4711289
You can do everything if you understand the planes

[Anonymous No.4711323]

Who said this was for beginners? It gets pretty difficult at one point.
How long should I take to finish this book?

[Anonymous No.4711326]

>>4711323
as long as it takes

[Anonymous No.4711328]

>>4711091
/beg/tard confirmed

[Anonymous No.4711623]

Mfw I am the worst artist I know

[Anonymous No.4711631]

>>4711199
Very rad and I witnessed those digits.

[Anonymous No.4711666]

>>4711323
Practice shit until youve internalized it, don't just blow through the book, dipshit.

[Anonymous No.4711682]

>>4711141
>>4711099
Thank you anons

[Anonymous No.4711706]

How long did it take you guys to get used to drawing from the shoulder? I just started doing it and I can barely control my pencil.

[Anonymous No.4711715]

Spent a decent amount of time on 4 but 1 and 2 were still better. How do i actually improve?

[Anonymous No.4711719]

>>4711715
Just like that, through iteration. Do it over and over again, make note of your mistakes, then try to fix them in your next attempt.

[Anonymous No.4711720]

>>4711141
I really do appreciate these links but pic related is breaking me. Art is full of retards like me that don't do well with math and physics, why does following art have to eventually have to lead back to math?!

[Anonymous No.4711754]

FZD ep 101

>>4711720
just read Scott Robertson How to Draw

your image is a really terrible abbreviation of it

[Anonymous No.4711757]

pls comment

[Anonymous No.4711760]

>>4711757
ref

[Anonymous No.4711762]

>>4711754
another one

[Anonymous No.4711784]

>>4711720
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2152549
Download only the first two videos
Marshall explains the terms that you need to know(90 °, 45 °, parallel, etc)
Then do the drawabox lesson 0-1 (that includes the 250 box challenge)
https://drawabox.com/lesson/0
https://drawabox.com/lesson/1

Believe me, you don't need to know math to learn perspective
you just need perception(The 250 boxes will help you with that)
https://youtu.be/jdvWEBtVoZs?t=908

[Anonymous No.4711787]

>>4711623
Actually the shitty one I drew from reference, this one which is way better I did by construction from imagination. Wtf

[Anonymous No.4711789]

>>4711787
Forgot Pic

[Anonymous No.4711805]

>>4711784
Watch the other videos of Marshall only after finishing the DAB Lesson 1, you will see how everything will start to make "sense"

[Anonymous No.4711809]

>>4711720
You don't need to know math per se, but you need to know logic. Geometry is logic.
This stuff isn't new. It isn't even knew to /ic/, we've covered this endlessly. The people who really get this stuff don't just read about it, or memorize it. They apply it every chance they get.

[Anonymous No.4711815]

>>4711719
Alright thanks

I've been told by people here to draw from real life and not pics is it really that important? I feel like it'd be way easier to copy 2d.

[Anonymous No.4711871]

>>4711815
That I don't know anything about. In this age I feel like copying from photos or images is just something everyone lives with.

[Anonymous No.4711885]

trying to feel the form with my homie

[Anonymous No.4711898]

How do I get out of tutorial hell

[Anonymous No.4711908]

color practice

[Anonymous No.4711934]

[Anonymous No.4711936]

third portrait i've drawn, first not of myself. the eyes took a lot of redrawing, and look at them now they still look very symbolic and shitty. any feedback would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4711968]

>>4711934
do you have a specific question

[Anonymous No.4711974]

>>4711968
just to know if I'm doing something wrong with her face, i don't particularly care for the hand at the moment

[Anonymous No.4711985]

>>4711936
If you know you're symbol drawing the eyes then stop. Just look at them and draw what you're seeing, not what you think you see.

[Anonymous No.4711990]

>>4708283

I am new to art, and my attempt at female form lacks feminine form but I dont see why. Ive tried to make a small brow, notable cheekbones, mouth closer to the bottom of the nose, a less pronounced nose etc. But i dont know why its not right. Critiques please?

[Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.4712016]

What should i do to improve if this is my level?

[Anonymous No.4712017]

>>4712016
study anatomy

[Anonymous No.4712024]

>>4708283
>tfw never gonna make it
Where my art failure bros at

[Anonymous No.4712045]

I really just can't get my head around loomis. It's just so weird. I always lose where I'm at once I try and draw the jaw at any angle. I've been noting it each time, but can't seem to figure out why I'm so lost on it.

Anyone else had similar problems?

[Anonymous No.4712059]

>>4711706
a week or so

[Anonymous No.4712070]

Another day of hand grind

>>4711757
It's not bad, but it's got some measurement issues, like the eye looks too big, forehead small, mouth a little smaller. If you correct these things the likeness will increace. Also, it kind of look half inbetween a more graphic style and a rendered one. I mean, I see you put some tones here and there but left the face mostly intact, which means it's the lightest value, and that's not the case on the ref, I only see very few spots of pure white, on the nose and the mouth. Then you put some value on the cheek which yes, it's there but in this case it doesn't help to read the form, so I would be more subtle with that. Anyways, you're doing good, I would just start working on rendering since your proportions are pretty good.

>>4711936
Eyes too big and symbol drawn, the rest is not too bad, I like how you got the mouth angle. Front angle is very difficult

>>4711908
I don't know shit about color, but these are pretty anon

>>4712016
Start with the basics, gesture, anatomy. Don't try to draw the clothed figure if you can't draw the figure by itself

[Anonymous No.4712120]

I've been trying to copy the pose below with the character above. Do you ussually draw lots of versions of the same pose?

[Anonymous No.4712177]

>>4712070
Haven’t seen you in a while anon, and I wanted you to know that you’ve inspired me to go through Bridgman hands too (even if I’m a lot messier). Keep it up!

[Anonymous No.4712197]

>>4712177
Aww that's so wholesome anon, you made me feel all warm inside! Yeah, I've been busy with uni so I had little time to draw, but I'm back at it.
I love seeing you put some hard work there, those are a lot of fucking hands! I'm kinda slow, just reached page 40 of the book, but I'm planning on finishing it and then move to something else, maybe do Bridgman's book on the figure (which I started years ago but never finished). Godspeed you anon!

[Anonymous No.4712205]

I did a self portrait, any critique.

[Anonymous No.4712211]

>>4712205
you should lose some weight fatass

[Anonymous No.4712212]

>>4712205
Too /beg/ to give real critique but I like it. What brushes did you use?

[Anonymous No.4712213]

>>4712070
cool pic, and this all is from imagination?

[Anonymous No.4712217]

>>4711990

[Anonymous No.4712219]

>>4712211
hahaha Yeah, I know.
>>4712212
"Real Pencil" in CSP.

[Anonymous No.4712223]

>>4712205
Nose looks a bit smushed and the eye on the left looks a bit smaller than the other. Ear seems a bit high up, they usually hang a little lower where the top edge of the ear will be lined up with the corner of your eye.

[Anonymous No.4712231]

>>4712213
oh no, they're from this book

[Anonymous No.4712237]

doing a DTIYS challenge

[Anonymous No.4712275]

>>4708544 >>4708755 Here, I scrapped the guidelines and started over. How should I proceed from this? Am I symbol drawing? Should I block in the values like I've started doing?

[Anonymous No.4712292]

>>4711666
ok ok, I get it.

[Anonymous No.4712343]

>>4709089

HMM i like the stomach render
gotta practice more

[Anonymous No.4712364]

Today was box forms, did I get it okay?

[Anonymous No.4712384]

>>4712343
I'm ngl, your rendering skills are gifted from the 10 gods of art themselves, however your anatomy, perspective and structure both need tons of work

[Anonymous No.4712399]

>>4712231
Is this better than just finding hands on Google?

[Anonymous No.4712416]

I know that shading/rendering is a huge problem for me right now but what else should I prioritize to improve my figure drawing?

[Anonymous No.4712422]

>>4712384

thats where you're wrong sir!

i need tons of work on everything...

[Anonymous No.4712433]

>>4712343
Nice tummy bro

[Anonymous No.4712494]

>>4712205
You've got a good base built up, I tried painting over it to show you how you could take it a bit further. I agree with the other anon that that the nose looks a bit distorted so I tried fixing that. Other than that I tried to slowly build up the value and add some more variation. Everything was mostly in the midtone range so it made it easy to start adding lighter values in places like the cheek and forehead in order to make them pop. I also tried to indicate a stronger light source by making the nose cast a shadow, making the shadowed side of his face darker and by reducing the amount of contrast around there. I also tried to make the eyes pop a bit more by rounding out the form of the eyeball (added a cast shadow on the eye) and I tried integrating the beard and the skin a bit more by blending the transition between them. But yeah, you've got a good base of midtones set up so all you really have to do is build on top of it, slowly add some lighter values, blend them in, add some more, etc. The same goes for dark values. Hope it's somewhat helpful.

[Anonymous No.4712523]

What programs do you guys use for digital drawing? I know photoshop and thats really it.

[Anonymous No.4712528]

>>4712494
too much blending, looks 2d as fuck. Use harder brushes

[Anonymous No.4712530]

>>4712494
Well thank ya kindly. The original light source was just my computer screen.
I'll try a better contrast next time.

[Anonymous No.4712533]

>>4712528
He overblended it a little but you must be fucking blind if you think that looks 2d.

[Anonymous No.4712539]

>>4712523
I use CSP, it goes on sale often.

[Anonymous No.4712541]

>>4712533
there are no shapes, just patches of shadow mud. It doesn't make it look 3d, the only part that might be 3d is behind the nose

[Anonymous No.4712637]

First attempt at gesture drawing.

1 minute poses from quickposes com

[Anonymous No.4712657]

>>4712637
The biggest problem here is the shapes you used for arms and legs. Follow the curves of the limbs more, so the thigh and the calf/forearm and bicep are distinct and convey any movement/twisting/foreshortening correctly. Bottom left is one of the better ones here, as you've done that with the leg and somewhat with the arms.

[Anonymous No.4712726]

>>4712343
arms are too long i think. the upper arm should end with the rib cabe. And the wrist should reach the crotch.

[Anonymous No.4712868]

Doing Proko/Loomis head. Only day 2 of practice. Trying to get a feel for it. Be as harsh as you want

[Anonymous No.4712875]

>>4712868
head I was using for practice. sorry about the size trying to get it under the 1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4712994]

>>4712399
Well it depends. For me it works because I'm a big fan of bridgman's style, so it makes me wanna draw more. The thing with a book like this is that is specifically made to help you draw hands, so most of the drawings in it have a certain gesture and structure to make it easier to understand and get a feel for it. Google images is great, or hell, eve taking your own pictures, but I think is more difficult to learn by yourself how to comunicate gesture/form just by trial and error only using refs. In Bridgman's book he already made the artistic choices to make the drawings look appealing, so if you actually study him (instead of just copying), you eventually end up picking up these subtle things he shows and you then incorporate in your drawings. I feel I'm improving, I also draw hands from ref and try my best at imagination, everything is cool, you just gotta find what works for you.

TL;DR: It's better for me, your experience might differ

[Anonymous No.4713259]

How do i paint ? Why do i always make the color looking muddy and unnatural.

[Anonymous No.4713421]

>>4712219
No fucking way. How did you render so well?

[Anonymous No.4713427]

new
>>4713425
>>4713425
>>4713425

[Anonymous No.4713443]

First time bleending

[Anonymous No.4713812]

>>4712523
krita is free

>>4712868
you should read a book on perspective before loomising