Vent Thread

[Anonymous No.4919703]

Are you having a good day, anon?

[Anonymous No.4919712]

>>4919703
I was supposed to do todays inktober, but i worked on the one for tomorrow, but i can’t post it because then everything is out of order.

I also burned my lunch

Worst day ever

[Anonymous No.4919713]

>grab a dip pen to try out
>carefully open bottle
>pry up the very edge of the seal with tip of fingernail
>fingertips completely covered in ink
i hate it already

[Anonymous No.4919749]

>>4919713
Wait for the day when one wrong move and that nib stabs the shit out of you. It's comin.

[Anonymous No.4919843]

>>4919703
Yes, its my dad's birthday today so I cooked him a steak and got him a cake. But I've got wrist pain from the morning and have residual weakness from it and so might miss posting an inktober doodle today.

[Anonymous No.4919909]

no its been horrible, i got so upset at my ineptitude i almost threw up from the stress. i am trying to draw again after not drawing for a few months, every part of the way i want to kms. I constantly only care about the end result of the drawing. and 99% if the time theirs so much wrong with everything i do that i just feel completely hopeless. nothing makes sense, and that just adds to the stress. I couldnt even finish a drawing because of all the flaws it had. I wanted to design an OC for a while now but have been putting it off for so long because I know the end result will just be trash. I just wanted to cool anime shit and thicc anime tiddies similar to the people i admire was why i started but drawing now only seems to bring completely misery because i perceive a perpetual state of failure, i never see a positive outcome from what i do.

[Anonymous No.4919911]

>>4919703
I labored over the same fucking pose for two hours

God damn I hate drawing porn for a living

[Anonymous No.4919913]

>>4919911
pyw

[Anonymous No.4919921]

Supposed to finish comic comission, still have 5 pages left.
>Maybe I'll trace, noone of normies will ever know

[Anonymous No.4919925]

>>4919703
my biggest obstacle in art is my own chronic stupidity, I've been using a drawing tablet for years without the driver installed. My biggest art problems got solved by a download button.

[Anonymous No.4919936]

>>4919843
You’re a good child

[Anonymous No.4919937]

>>4919909
I hope you feel better after venting anon. I want to get over the same issues.

[Anonymous No.4919958]

>>4919925
Holy crap anon I can't even imagine

[Anonymous No.4919967]

>>4919703
My roommate sucks and constantly interrupts me while I'm working on my art gains. If I put headphones on to ignore him and focus he just taps on my shoulder every 5 minutes trying to talk or pulls my fucking headphones off. I can't even escape him for a good night's sleep, he just follows me over to my bed and keeps talking to me (my room is a den like supposed to be a dining room or some shit, so I don't have a door just a curtain up there). I've tried talking to him about it, I've tried telling him to fuck off, but he's constantly drunk lately and doesn't remember our conversations in the morning and especially not when he gets drunk again. Working from home like this during covid lockdown is maddening. I just want to be left alone for 8 hours a day, fuck.

[Anonymous No.4919976]

>>4919703
I made a twitter because I thought it'd be a good jumping point for my art. I thought it'd be motivating to gain some followers and make friends with other artists, maybe even with some of the artists I look up to. I wanted to be a part of something, be relevant.
>three years later
>two posts
>seven followers
I couldn't even make small steps towards my goal, and I'm of course still stuck were I started.
I've wasted so much time thinking about making art instead of looking the world in the eyes and taking control of my life.
Now I'm in my late 20's and too discouraged and unmotivated to even pick up a pencil, watching the rest of the world move and progress fast beyond me.
I remain sedentary and stagnate, hoping one day I can break through this.

[Anonymous No.4919988]

>ask for writing advice
>everyone has an opinion, can provide input, has some understand of what they think a story should be structured as, and tips and tricks of stuff they've found out either through the grape vine or from experience
>ask for art advice
>suddenly no one, not even the art friends knows shit about what can make something appealing or entertaining or provide things they have found out on what could help to improve

whats up with that dudes

[Anonymous No.4919993]

>>4919976
twitter is just a bad porn website
i randomly get followers on instagram and i haven't posted art there in ages. and its just sketches from old sketchbooks i put in there
i'd put in more, but its far to annoying to put digital art into instagram since you can only upload from your phone
point is, twitter isn't the only place for art

[Anonymous No.4919995]

>ask for writing advice
>everyone has an opinion, can provide input, has some understand of what they think a story should be structured as, and tips and tricks of stuff they've found out either through the grape vine or from experience
>ask for art advice
>suddenly no one, not even the art friends knows shit about what can make something look better (even in their opinion) or provide things they have heard or methods they use . Its just "figure it out yourself"

whats up with that dudes

[Anonymous No.4919997]

>>4919995
Dunno fren. Have a piece in mind you want opinions on?

[Anonymous No.4920002]

>>4919988
Writers know they will never ever make money. Writing is language on paper, anyone can pick it up. Drawing is a completely unnatural skill that has to be developed from scratch and therefore inherently has more value. It’s like riding scooters vs skateboarding. Everyone in the community thinks scooters are wack

[Anonymous No.4920003]

>>4919997
i was redrawing some of my inktober drawings because i wasn't happy how they turned out initially and just wanted to have some fun

i started asking my friends on what i could do better, and they just patronized me like always. honestly put me down a spiral i don't know why i got so pissed

[Anonymous No.4920004]

>>4920002
what does that mean? artists are all just in it for themselves?

[Anonymous No.4920011]

>>4920004
He's trolling ignore him.

[Anonymous No.4920013]

I feel like every time I go into a longer period of direct practice/study it kills my motivation to draw fun stuff, as I feel like I'm missing out on stuff I could have learned something to use in the fun things.

[Anonymous No.4920022]

>>4920013
Maybe the mistake is believing you're missing stuff. It's like saying because you're drawing, you couldn't be playing a game or hanging out with other people. Just keep on going and remember that.

[Anonymous No.4920024]

>>4920013
i can't even look at other people make art. when i. study for periods of time
just makes me feel jealous that they're past me

[Anonymous No.4920026]

>>4920011
i mean he's got a better answer than anyone right now

[Anonymous No.4920028]

>>4919909
I'm with you anon. My art is shit too but the only way we get better is by making shitty art until it gets better. desu I think it's more of a mental game than an art game, which is more than I bargained for. anyway hope you get some help for your stress

[Anonymous No.4920029]

>>4919967
what the fuck. you guys need boundaries. Tell him next time he pulls your headphones off you're going to kick him in the dick, and when he does it next time, kick him in the dick. maybe then he'll remember.

[Anonymous No.4920032]

>Try to make a piece
>Midway spot terrible mistake
>Despite knowing the mistake cannot figure out how to fix it
I hate being so bad
>>4920013
>Practice constantly
>I wish I was drawing and able to implement all of this
>Try to draw a piece
>Unable to pull off what I want. I should go back to practice
>Over and over
>0 improvement

[Anonymous No.4920033]

>>4920028
if you have depression you're basically born to ngmi

[Anonymous No.4920038]

>>4920033
Is this a cope? Fuck that. Get over your depressions guys, we can do this.

[Anonymous No.4920039]

>>4919703
I have a headache and I feel like every night I gotta fight an internal battle about how sad I am about shit and how pointless life is and how there's nothing good happening in the world. but like otherwise, actually never mind my art is shit too.

[Anonymous No.4920041]

>>4920038
Yea seriously we got this. Also depression makes art more interesting anyway.

[Anonymous No.4920042]

>>4919976
I thought the same when starting out but it turns out that if you're not a delusional attention starved autist or a sociopathic normie, it will only have negative effects on you and your art.
You start questioning yourself whether it's worth the effort, if there's a point.
You start procrastinating, you draw less and less while still craving the draw, but you'll spyral into the same questions and thoughts thus never doing anything, never drawing.
You'll start coping; "it's me, i am the mistake, if i only wouldn't be this lazy but what's the point of putting in a lot of effort for a minimal chance of getting my existence acknowledged by strangers on the internet who don't really give a shit but are there to consume content and if i drop the ball even once i'm pretty much done.
If i don't draw what people want, i'm done.
If i don't draw specific things, i might as well not even try.
If i don't have the required skill, why even bother?
So much effort to gain something small, one wrong move to lose it all.
Too much risk for no reward. No wonder i don't want to keep on pursuing. Maybe one day i'll wake up and find the strength to soldier on and reach my goals"

That day is never going to come, anon.
For art in itself is suffering, especially when it's infested by people.

[Anonymous No.4920043]

>>4919995
style is intuitive and most people dont want to fuck up and provide the wrong advice

writing is a lot easier to work with because its something most people do in their lives and they can at least clearly identify when something feels "off" more becuase they can just rewrite it themselves to how they want

non artists cant do this with drawings besides "looks weird"

[Anonymous No.4920044]

>>4920039
Just start back from 0 anon, reset your standards. You're crushing yourself for the wrong reasons.

[Anonymous No.4920047]

>>4920043
i wouldn't ask if i didn't value their opinion

[Anonymous No.4920048]

>>4919976
I was going to do this, but this post is making me think otherwise.

[Anonymous No.4920049]

>>4920038
>Is this a cope? Fuck that. Get over your depressions guys, we can do this.
its easy to start ignoring shit that makes you feel sad until art starts making you feel sad too
at that point you start reminding yourself of the rest of your inadequacies whenever you draw

[Anonymous No.4920050]

>>4920042
Thanks for accurately putting down our thoughts into words anon. I hope we find a way to break this cycle. I just want to be liked and appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4920052]

>>4920041
for what audience. even if its for yourself, people never faced with hardship still feel the same sense of pride when they finish a well-made piece
and they can reach those areas because they. don't have any mental blocks

the industry and communities basically shuns out misfits these days too so spoiled kids never have to come to terms with the idea that someone can have a unique vision and reach greater heights than they could

[Anonymous No.4920057]

>>4920049
How about not starting that at all? You say it's easy, so how about doing something else instead? Remind yourself of how competent you are and how amazing you're going to be.

[Anonymous No.4920058]

>>4920042
Poetic af anon. I feel better now knowing we both feel bad. <3

[Anonymous No.4920061]

>>4920057
>You say it's easy, so how about doing something else instead?
letting go of a dream can be even more distraught than struggling with it and people keep saying. you'll get good eventually so you're trapped yourself in a state of eventually hoping you can be happy. again

[Anonymous No.4920063]

>>4920061
but you won't be happy because your misery is literally blocking you from reaching those heights

[Anonymous No.4920066]

>>4920050
I wanted to belong too, anon.
But the world has no place for the likes of us.
For the madmen will call you mad because you're not as mad as they are.
>>4920058
Sometimes all we need is to witness that we are not alone in our suffering to escape the prison that is our mind.

[Anonymous No.4920069]

>>4920043
>style is intuitive and most people dont want to fuck up and provide the wrong advice
thats so fucking patronizing dude
people aren't retarded, if they think advice is worth conisdering they'll take it, if its not they'll ignore it
you're either lazy, hoarding information, or just have such a big ego that you think that only your advice will matter to someone when they're looking for some notes. people hungry for information take it from all places

even normie advice people understand how to take because maybe it "looking weird" wasn't the intention, and if it was they'll know they did something right.

when someone asks for advice, they want to see new considerations. that counts for even stylized work

[Anonymous No.4920073]

I have a crush on someone on /ic/ that I talk to quite frequently now. I feel pathetic because it’s online but I can’t help my feelings. We draw together and it makes me happy. I think about him quite a lot too.
I don’t want to tell him because he seems quite uninterested outside of the art aspect.
Fuck this I’m too autistic to read signs.

[Anonymous No.4920079]

>>4920073
>>4920073
>I feel pathetic
Sounds it too. Stop being a child, online relationships aren’t real

[Anonymous No.4920085]

>>4920079
I know, I know. My feelings will just have to die on its own eventually. I’ve never had feelings for anyone online before so it’s definitely a first. I don’t really know what to do with myself or how to force myself into no longer liking him. I really just can’t help it.

[Anonymous No.4920087]

I want to die. I'm not actually suicidal or anything like that, nor am I so far gone to be considered "depressed" but I really just keep feeling like I want to die at any given moment in time, if I'm not doing something.

Maybe I don't have enough variety in my life or something, but in truth, I don't think it would help at all. It just feels like the world overall is pretty fucking shitty right now and a lot of the people are just bad. Looking at them makes you lose hope, there's almost to reason left to live or fight for anything other than yourself or what you believe in, fucking everything else is just pozzed up to hell and back with bullshit. Shit feels hopeless. You want to make a change, but you know it'll either barely affect anything or you'll just be swept under the rug and not given a shit about.

[Anonymous No.4920101]

>>4920087
Same, don't know what to do except think about it. Maybe an answer will turn up eventually or we change our preconceived notions.

[Anonymous No.4920108]

why the fuck did nobody tell me that i have to like measure shit while im drawing i thought it was just like a one time deal and then just let jesus take a wheel

[Anonymous No.4920130]

>>4920108
You don't really have to, your brain already does it for you. Like you don't think about how far to walk or all the super precision muscle work it takes to throw a ball. Your brain does that work for you. Same with drawing.

[Anonymous No.4920137]

Anyone noticed a strange increase in oddly confrontational, short message posters?

It's probably just one or two autists floating around, bored from quarantine, but I really have to wonder why someone would troll in a board like /ic/

[Anonymous No.4920151]

>>4920130
well it does an extremely shitty as job at it then

[Anonymous No.4920167]

>>4920151
Does it? Does it really? You're able to function on a daily basis without fail despite being a tadpole at one point in your life.

[Anonymous No.4920172]

>>4920073
Sad. Be my gf instead?

[Anonymous No.4920175]

>>4920137
I noticed vauge posts that feel it's directed to me lately.

[Anonymous No.4920184]

>>4920087
>>4920101
Big changes, like in art, don't happen except incrementally. It isn't easy to go against the status quo. It's a downright awful, lonely, brutal slog sometimes. But the thing that cemented it for me was knowing my acquiescence puts slave collars on other people. I couldn't tolerate that. But remember, even if all of the worst of human nature actually is more widespread and intense now, it's all shit people have been dealing with since the beginning. You're not in a new position by any stretch. And you're not alone. Look around at the anons itt.
A few things I try to keep in mind, from day to day, maybe they'll help idk.
One- The above; it's only ever a process, not an end state. No matter how good or bad things are. Up and down are both infinite. Even if only technically, it's always possible for things to improve. Don't ever give this up, only hell follows.
Two- exercise openness. Every little thing you can find to exercise and expand the constructive, the optimistic, and the enjoyable, grab it and don't let go. What do you appreciate right at this moment?
Three- Your baser instincts are not going to help you if you wish to counter their effects in the rest of the world. So many of the problems people face can be couched in terms of pride, vanity, and selfishness. But that's an essay itself.
Four- Try not to think of it so much as fighting negative influence- that's a trap- like answering trolls. Think about it as building the positive alternative. In that vein, it's not about hating the people, it's about hating the problems. That hate is another trap.
Five- I've heard two types of people described seperately as the most valuable to society- Those with moral courage, and those who give hope. And they both sound like fantastic places to start having an effect on the world, one person at a time.

[Anonymous No.4920199]

>>4920175
If something isn't addressed to you, it's pretty nonsensical to assume its intended for you isn't it?

[Anonymous No.4920231]

>>4920199
The posts have been very vaguely related to me though.

[Anonymous No.4920238]

>>4920231
Well, take them for what they are then i suppose. Are they trash tier or worth thinking about? I don't know what else to say beyond don't get wrapped up in it.

[Anonymous No.4920248]

>>4920231
>>4920175
You must love horoscopes.

[Anonymous No.4920249]

>>4920137
I’m not gonna lie, I came to this board semi recently with good intentions and positivity. I’ve spoke to good people but mostly complete crabs, assholes and people screaming pyw pyw. This in turn made me into much more of an ass and way more likely to write short confrontational messages than I ever would have before. This likely in turn inspires many more people to be assholes and I honestly feel like I’ve genuinely made the problem worse considering it’s a fairly slow board and it’s become my regular place at this point.

I’m trying to stop being such an ass but it’s hard when you’ve got literal threads bragging about crabbing and reporting mega links. People here are constantly shitting on everything. I can’t say that it’s my fault alone people have been being worse but I accept my part in it and apologise. I think many of us feel the same way and if you say you’re never an asshole on here I don’t believe you.

I guess this is my vent, can we try to stop being such cocks to each other? You can’t stop everyone else being an asshole but you can choose not to add to the noise. I’m gonna try my best not to

[Anonymous No.4920271]

>>4920238
>Are they trash tier or worth thinking about?
Not really trash talking, just bits and pieces of things that are obvious. Anyway I'm starting to sound like a shizo but I noticed it for the past 2 weeks. I'm not bothered by it though.

[Anonymous No.4920280]

>>4920271
Nobody knows who you are mate, what I’d say is focus on the things you feel are directed insults at you because it’s probably just noticing your own subconscious insecurities. You can easily find out if they’re warranted insecurities by asking for criticism in the appropriate places.

[Anonymous No.4920292]

>>4920249
This is such a bitter place

[Anonymous No.4920307]

>>4920271
What this anon said
>>4920280
Plus I'd add, there's the possibility that if something speaks to you, then there might be a reason it's worth exploring to you personally. But really, no one knows who you are, it's the internet, and everyone is anon besides.

[Anonymous No.4920333]

>>4920249
>>4920292
focus on the good parts, there's people out there going OUT OF THEIR WAY to share and help you.
Focus on that and pass on the favor!

[Anonymous No.4920348]

>>4920333
Truthy trips come in three.

[Anonymous No.4920355]

>>4920137
>>4920249
>practiced drawing some sprite porn
>posted one of the stuff in a thread
>only replies i got were from two people straight up calling it disgusting or some shit, telling me to kms
>post it later on /v/
>replies were now saying they could actually jerk off to it and asked me to post more
welp. i really don't expect much from this site, i know it's mainly filled with vitriol and bitterness. so whenever you post, you need to keep all that in mind and learn how to filter out retard posts from actual advice and proper criticism.

[Anonymous No.4920368]

>>4920029
I have the boundaries talk with him on the regular nowadays. Honestly I'm about ready to kick him in the dick. Before lock down he actually respected my space and would often go out to get his social bullshit and drinking done with his friends. Now he can't go do that, so he's 100% relying on me for all social interactions. Plus he's furloughed so he never leaves.

I'm just hoping that between rent and bills I can save enough money up to get out of here and rent a cheap shitty place on my own, before the lease is up and before I end up beating the guy senseless for blatantly ignoring me telling him to fuck off while I'm working, trying to de-stress alone, and trying to sleep. This bullshit has been going on all year and I'm done.

[Anonymous No.4920532]

>>4920249
Same here.
I started lurking this board roughly 5 years ago.
I just wanted to get better and exchange with fellow artist but now i am something completely different.

Trust me, this shit hole is better this way.
You don't even know how bad it could've been.

[Anonymous No.4920540]

>>4920073
How can you tell its the same person each time?

[Anonymous No.4920564]

>>4920073
stupid sissy faggot. maybe start drawing some dicks instead.

[Anonymous No.4920692]

>>4920532
>Trust me, this shit hole is better this way.
>You don't even know how bad it could've been.
How so?

[Anonymous No.4920694]

Yesterday I got my work ID, and saw that the retard who took my photo gave me the most unflattering fucking picture possible. I looked like a retarded inbred incel or some shit. Mind you, I still look better than most of the retards I work with, but I felt so fucking violently angry when I saw the shitty picture that the guy took, how hard is it to take a decent fucking picture. I can’t believe the incompetence of these idiots. It’s like the entire world wants me to hate it, with every passing year, my malice grows. The more time I spend around other people, the more I understand why great men like Ramirez and Bundy did what they did.

[Anonymous No.4920696]

>>4920694
AAAAAAAAA AND my stupid fucking WHORE of a mother won’t get off my fucking case either, when will I finally be rid of that wretched fucking CUNT???!!

[Anonymous No.4920699]

>>4920696
why aren't you grateful that she gave you life, food, clothes, and shelter?

[Anonymous No.4920709]

>>4920699
She’s not fucking useful to me, she can’t shut her damn mouth, I’d almost rather I not be born than deal with her, she’s really only just using me for her own benefit (fuck her, I’m no one’s pawn), really, I’d wageslave and give her my paycheck as rent if it meant I didn’t have to interact with that useless slag anymore, I plan on dipping in about year or so anyway, and my art might help me get there if I draw coomissions, but to answer your question, no I’d don’t need to be grateful for retards doing stuff that even a retard could figure out, plus I’ve loathed my family and most of the people I meet for years on end, it’s not as if I’m just now being an edgy teen

[Anonymous No.4920712]

>>4920699
not you again you fucking obnoxious retard... holy shit just kill yourself

[Anonymous No.4920714]

>>4920709
Post her feet

[Anonymous No.4920719]

>>4920709
Why are you such an ungrateful disrespectful sociopath? You sound like an incel who was bullied every school year.

>>4920712
take your meds schizo

[Anonymous No.4920721]

I came up with the twitter caption before even starting the drawing and when I posted it it got so much attention and replies I feel like a fucking genius but at the same time I feel awful because no matter how good your drawing is there's always will be someone le quirky random with more attention than you.

[Anonymous No.4920723]

>>4920709
Don't respond to the retard.
He goes around starting this exact same shit on other boards as well, ignore him.

[Anonymous No.4920737]

>>4920714
Gross no, but I wonder if it’d be possible to traumatize her enough that she’d fuck off. Well, I don’t wanna mess things up until after I fucking jump ship, so for now I’ll just sit tight.
>>4920719
>ungrateful disrespectful sociopath?
I don’t exactly have a whole lot to be grateful for now do I? It’s always idiots like my parents that are getting in my way, and they’re no better than any other retard out there, so why should I respect them? I’m at least good at being respectful on the outside, though I swear sometimes I feel like the act is impossible to keep up
>You sound like an incel who was bullied every school year.
Actually, I’m quite good at socializing, if a little lonely. I just resent others for screwing me over so many times. And you don’t know me or what I’ve endured. If anything, you sound like you’re projecting, I’m a perfectly good guy, there’s nothing wrong with me, other people are just that bad. Plus, I feel like I’ve more or less paid my parents back (paying bills with my wageslavery, they used up all the money I had saved previously as well) so yeah, take your judgement and stuff it up your ass. It’s other people who are in the wrong, not me, I’m a kind person, a really nice guy, everyone who knows me can attest to that.

[Anonymous No.4920739]

>>4920723
My bad, I didn’t realize I was talking to a neck beard troll

[Anonymous No.4920752]

I wish when AR glasses finally come in 2022 that someone makes an app to overlay transparent cubes in your view for artists. That would help so much.

[Anonymous No.4920761]

>>4920692
lurk moar

[Anonymous No.4920764]

>>4919703
I was having a good day until I actually tried doing fundamental studies.

Good news is I have little trouble just drawing for fun; drawing like I know what I'm doing. But when I try to do any kind of studies from a book or video or whatever, I struggle to stay interested for even half an hour.

I can draw all day for fun but that's only going to hinder me unless I get some fundamental studies done.

It's all so frustrating.

[Anonymous No.4920765]

hate incompetence, imagine having a boss not competent as you.
Its like hes telling me to kick him out and take over his status.
I also hate sensors.

[Anonymous No.4920769]

>>4920764
Feel good about yourself in knowing you weren't alone today.

[Anonymous No.4920773]

>>4920761
>you have no idea how bad it coulda been
>why?
>if you’d been here you would know

I’m not gonna go digging for an answer, this just makes it sound like you chat shit

[Anonymous No.4920801]

>aphantasia
>low IQ
>no talent
>ADD
>low test womb
>ligameme
>no apple iPad Pro 12.9
>no cgpeers account
I'm stacked against impossible odds

[Anonymous No.4920813]

>>4920773
>implying
just lurk moar, faggot

[Anonymous No.4920821]

>>4920696
>>4920709
>>4920737
Siggy? Siggy is that you honey? Come to dinner already your meatloaf is getting cold. You know how we worry about you so Siggy.

[Anonymous No.4920864]

>>4920737
>>4920709
>>4920696
>>4920694
Were you molested or what?

[Anonymous No.4920889]

>>4920864
I was raped.

[Anonymous No.4920907]

>>4919703
Just 2 more days of wageslavery, then I can finally go on my 2 week vacation!

[Anonymous No.4920918]

>overloaded brain by trying to learn to many things at once
>still have not recovered and messes with my when drawing

[Anonymous No.4920919]

>>4920889
>>4920889

You
https://youtu.be/5PZpKWcMxGo

[Anonymous No.4920926]

>>4919703
yes actually, hbu?

[Anonymous No.4920963]

>>4920368
Sorry you're going through that.

[Anonymous No.4920978]

>>4920889
Sorry to hear, hope you recover

[Anonymous No.4920982]

>>4920889
How many times have you jerked off to that moment?

[Anonymous No.4921317]

>>4919703
>>>/qa/3533577

[Anonymous No.4921444]

>>4921317
God bless the janny. You got what you asked for, faglord.

[Anonymous No.4921448]

>>4921317
cry more baby haha

[Anonymous No.4921451]

>>4921317
Nobody likes you for a good reason.

[Anonymous No.4921479]

>>4919703
I'm doing some /asg/ style studies and it really is amazing how I kill the soul of every anime face I try to copy.

[Anonymous No.4921496]

>it's "good japanese artist with 150k posts of food and gacha screenshots on twitter without pixiv" episode

[Anonymous No.4921532]

>spend september going out of my comfort zone
>get back on faces for this inktober
>they're in a new style the first four days, more appealing
>the old style come back
>get disapoinnted

At least there's potential...

[Anonymous No.4921631]

Im wondering if i should just draw things i want to even though i know their gonna turn out shit because i lack the skill knowledge etc. Because if i wont be producing anything if i just grind and grind constantly, and ill probably never actually reach where i want to be.

[Anonymous No.4921640]

>>4921317
you got what you deserved mikufag you mentally ill fuck

[Anonymous No.4921645]

>>4921496
I unfollow them immediately.
Fuck whoever does this. Make an actual gallery ffs.

[Anonymous No.4921649]

will getting better at drawing make me feel like i'm good enough?

[Anonymous No.4921655]

>>4921317
What does it say? I’m not clicking that shit.

[Anonymous No.4921664]

>>4921655
It's just some pedo whining about getting his shit deleted for breaking the rules.

[Anonymous No.4921672]

>>4921649
Maybe. Whether or not you feel like you're good enough depends on when you want to feel that way.

[Anonymous No.4921874]

>haha yaaaay i've got some free time, let's draw some!
>come up with a pose.
>come up with a pose.
>come up with a fucking pose!
>nothing's coming out, let's check out a reference resource or something
>i don't want to draw any of these
>why are these so stupid looking can you guys chill
>holy fucking christ
>close sketchbook and post itt instead
fuck this

[Anonymous No.4921876]

>>4921874
I feel you. Not sure how to get over it, but I've tried just drawing the very first thing I think of and I mean it could be whatever, thinking of myself drawing or just brushing my teeth or some shit. Once you get going, maybe it helps.

[Anonymous No.4921893]

>>4921874
Creativity gets easier anon. It's actually something that can be cultivated. I know this to be true, from personal experience.

[Anonymous No.4921920]

>>4921874

Start being a shizo and take pictures wherever you go and then think of poses within the pictures you take using your imagination.

Instead of fighting for a pose from your head.

[Anonymous No.4921929]

>>4919703
I went back to school to study 3D animation and I think I'm on my way to my first breakdown.
Modeling the head is so complicated, I feel like I've made a mistake at the early stages and barely have any idea how to fix it.
I feel like I'm choking with fear. I'm getting the opportunity of a lifetime, and I'm gripped with fear by the possibility of failure.
I don't know what to do. Learning to draw better is fun. I've had some experience animating in 2D. I want to work in 3D, but it's so complicated I feel like I'm too dumb to get it. If I don't get it here, I won't survive.
I'm freaking out, guys.

[Anonymous No.4921958]

>>4921929
Failure is inevitable in the journey of learning.

Fuck that school for putting so much pressure on you

[Anonymous No.4921962]

I spent all day being a sad cunt instead of drawing.

[Anonymous No.4921997]

>>4921962
me too

[Anonymous No.4922019]

>>4921496
When following jap artists the protocol is to turn of retweets and pray they dont spam inane shit all day. It's a vain hope

[Anonymous No.4922020]

I feel like it’ll bite me in the ass down the road, but I’m doing remote classes for art school, and I was constantly depressed by the isolation at one point, but now I contact people less and less, and my overall state of mind has improved significantly.

I dunno if it’s vent type material since I do feel comfy, even if it’s not so hot that my social skills have atrophied. It is really nice being able to do art school without all the social strain and high octane stress of campus life though.

[Anonymous No.4922025]

>>4921496
>it’s a “western artist with a lot of followers and posts you scroll through the media tab, seeing hundreds of memes and no actual art of theirs” episode
I hate this shit more

[Anonymous No.4922040]

>>4921496
>>4922025

Friends, why must this be a problem? Just do a media search

[Anonymous No.4922051]

>>4921929
This is literally the filter. You either break or keep going.

[Anonymous No.4922059]

>>4922051
I know. I just really don’t want to break. I thought I was pulling through until recently. It’s all just hit me at once.

[Anonymous No.4922063]

>>4921929
>>4922059
Yo talk to the prof or the TA if there is one, they’ll surely be down to offer some technical council or will generally understand that kind of thing

[Anonymous No.4922115]

I really wanna learn animation too but I’m still a huge noob at drawing so I just draw the darn bouncing ball before I fall asleep depressed

[Anonymous No.4922119]

Nobody replies to my posts

[Anonymous No.4922131]

I wanna do things with my life like go to college and volunteer for things, but I'm afraid it'll distract too much from drawing. I don't really want to work in the industry or make money off art, but I really wanna make a comic or something someday so I can at least leave something behind before I die. I already work full time, so if I did this other stuff it would suck up a lot of my time

[Anonymous No.4922135]

>>4922040
I like to see the new art in my timeline as soon as it posted, not browsing the gelbooru and praying that the new stuff was uploaded

[Anonymous No.4922137]

>>4922115
Sounds like your issue is you decide to categorize. You know you don't have to right? You're not competing with anyone.

[Anonymous No.4922140]

my best friend just told me that he took a plea deal with the fbi. he's been under investigation for securities fraud for a few years, and he finally plead guilty. i guess he figured it'll get him a lighter sentence if he helps them catch the bigger fish. this is so fucked. i said my best friend but really i only have 3 friends. my anxiety just went through the fucking roof thinking about this. I can't tell you what he did because I don't know. I specifically told him not to tell me because I didn't want to have to lie about anything it I ever get questioned and he said he wasn't allowed to tell him anyway. I could say he plead guilty to a felony but not give any details about the case. I think I'm more worried about it than he is. Or at least he didn't show it.

[Anonymous No.4922143]

>>4922119
have a (you)

[Anonymous No.4922144]

>>4922137
I know but making shittily drawn animations demoralizes me, because it screams that I should go back and learn the fundies before tackling it

[Anonymous No.4922149]

>>4922144
See, you're doing it again. You demoralize yourself for some sour reason of just because you think you're bad. Who are you comparing yourself to? You don't have to. Just improve on yourself. Animation is also separate from fundies, so don't fall into the trap of constantly going back either. It's like trying to get ready to be ready. Just do instead.

[Anonymous No.4922159]

>>4922143
(you) too

[Anonymous No.4922189]

>>4922149
Yeah you’re right anon it’s always about just doing it. Guess I’m tired and grumpy these days since I’m pressured into constantly doing commissions so I have a higher income, then I work on drawings for fun, going through a course and also inktober now. I’ll try animating something using reference which I haven’t tried yet

[Anonymous No.4922204]

>>4919703
I'm in such a funk today that I couldn't turn on my "normal guy" act when we had guests today. Couldn't even draw to get my mind off things.
What's wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.4922209]

i will never be able to compete with furudo erika

[Anonymous No.4922221]

>>4921962
>>4921997
Sometimes these are the times I practice drawing something strictly not 'just for me'. Pride of accomplishment, money, coom, these things will fail you when things aren't in order for them. But something that isn't dependent on you won't. Doing something for a higher ideal isn't any more lofty, pretentious or shallow than brightening someone's day, or making a joke, or a token of gratitude.
Besides the cliches of it being its own reason and reward, it'll get your mind off your problems and onto something better. Hth.

[Anonymous No.4922351]

how bad of a state am i in when even seeing a friend with good art puts me in a bad place?

[Anonymous No.4922363]

>>4922351
Why can't you just let go of it? What's it buy you? What a cool friend you could be instead if you could just enjoy shit together. Am I wrong? So just loosen up and enjoy shit for what it is. It'll be gone tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4922378]

I am a trad artist and my art pile is growing out of control just from this past year alone (I threw most of my art away in my move last year). I want to throw it away (the fun for me is the art process, end result is cool but not something I feel the need to save) but everyone I know gets SO MAD when I do that. Like come over and bring a bag if you want my drawings so damn bad. I'm not mailing this shit out to you.

[Anonymous No.4922389]

>>4922378
Remember to recycle, reuse, and reduce anon!

[Anonymous No.4922396]

>>4919713
I'm actually fucking loving my dip pens so far. I suck with them but I can feel the pure undiluted SOUL flowing through my body and onto the page

[Anonymous No.4922437]

>>4920069
im glad not many people think like you, people with no idea what theyre talking about does nothing but misdirect other people with no idea what theyre doing, causing them to progress even slower or waste their time

[Anonymous No.4922457]

I keep seeing great art on Twitter and get motivated to practice but instead play a shitty MMO and waste time on the internet. I drew a picture I was genuinely proud of and saw the improvement, but then just stopped drawing for a month and a half. Now I'm just rebuilding that progress I lost.

[Anonymous No.4922460]

>>4922457
Must be a fun MMO, glad you got over it.

[Anonymous No.4922507]

One day I’m fine and the next I’m pissed off at everything. No idea why I was so angry yesterday.

[Anonymous No.4922513]

Been spending way too much time on videogames and today I felt the regression hard. Even though yesterday was fine nothing I drew today was even fucking legible for some reason. I feel like I just got knocked back 2 years and it sucks

I’ve also been really blackpilled regarding talent, my mental handicaps etc. which allowed me to justify playing so much fucking videogames.

>>4922457
A lot like this guy, but I never quit art entirely. Good luck dude, I’m in a similar spot

[Anonymous No.4922524]

>>4922513
Have you tried drawing just 1 hr a day. Have you of how 1 can build up to a lot more than 0?

[Anonymous No.4922529]

>>4922524
I’ve been spending probably an hour and a half average each day drawing up until today

[Anonymous No.4922710]

>>4919703
I fucking hate warhammer commissions. I make great money doing weird furfag shit for money where I could afford a blown out computer. Got into the warhammer 10th edition hype and thought I was in the clear for rent the next three months with the amount of interest I was getting. But I hate the warhammer community so fucking much.
>Draw me (a fat bearded balding 50 something) as a space marine and make him a complete bad ass.
>do you draw female space marines? Please tee-hee.
>can you draw rule 34 of guilliman and aeldari? No, not eldar. Aeldari. You’re clearly not a fan of the game. No commission for you then.
>you didn’t draw my Tau cute enough. I’m doing a chargeback.
>I want a sister of battle with bandages over her eyes and a samurai sword. No, don’t make her look like 2B from Nier automata.
>ever heard of oviposition?
And don’t get me started on an argument I had because I used a Space marine Mk7 Aquila helmet instead of a MkX Gravis helmet.
I just wanted to draw pic related and these fucking spastics keep fucking ruining it. That’s my rant.

[Anonymous No.4922772]

>>4922710
>get into autistic edgy fandom known for their lardass basement dwellers and skellyngton looking punk-goth tryhards
>"Why are they being so difficult?"
Post the dms, anon.

[Anonymous No.4922826]

Not really an art vent but what the fuck is wrong with people now? Maybe I'm just out of touch but why can't people just fucking talk about shit normally and not in these fucking meme quotes, wannabe nigs and wojaks. And what the hell is with the obsession of taking a piece of media and building your entire identity around it? I know that shit has been around for a long while but it feels like it's a lot worse now. Maybe I just really can't stand people at all anymore.

[Anonymous No.4922842]

>>4922826
Everyone's just fixated on themselves and how they're going to get their next hit of instant gratification through getting attention by either committing to stupid shit, virtue signaling or by consuming specific products.
People have been retarded for a long time but fanatiscism is the key word here.
Normies want to indulge and belong, preferable to a circle of like minded people.
Fandoms give them those opportunities.
Then depending on the circle's inner culture, things happen.
Blame social media.

[Anonymous No.4922853]

>>4922826
meme magic is real, and pic related came out on top.

[Anonymous No.4922910]

>>4922826
Humans are social animals, you join a tribe, you learn from the tribe. Normally this would be chatting with people you know and thus developing the way you act and talk around them, but now thanks to the internet your tribe can be a bunch of memers, so people learn behaviours from that.
Like you said that obssession existed before, but now whats changed is that the old things people used to build their identity around are not as strong, whereas media has huge amounts of mass marketing supported by psychologists with the objective of making people consume the product. No surprise their methods are effective and so you get those fanatics. Before the fanatics would just be preaching around their neighborhood but now the internet allows them to scream about how they love [thing] to everyone in the world, so their existence becomes more obvious to you. Combine those (effective psychological marketing and ease of communication) and that shit will seem to be much worse now to you than before.

[Anonymous No.4922937]

>>4922772
>>get into autistic edgy fandom known for their lardass basement dwellers and skellyngton looking punk-goth tryhards
>>"Why are they being so difficult?"

The point is that the supposed real autistic basement dwellers aren’t the ones who wear animal costumes and give me a 3 digits straight to my bank account for a single inflation pic

[Anonymous No.4922949]

>>4922710
Did you create picrelated? Its so cool anon.

[Anonymous No.4923029]

>>4922937
Ah, yes, i skipped over that when i was reading your mind, anon. Good point.

[Anonymous No.4923062]

Do I have to make a complete new twitter if I'm banned in 2 areas ?

[Anonymous No.4923069]

my dad is a retarded conspiracy theorist with i suspect an early onset of dementia. he comes into my room every day to tell me about the most batshit theories he fully believes about the government, corruption, satanists and illuminati running the world etc.

It always ruins my flow getting to work drawing, and i have to just sit there and agree with him because if i don't, then it's a debate, and he won't let it go for even longer.

i wish i could tell him to fuck off, but it's his house and i have nowhere else to go, and not in a financial situation to support myself.

[Anonymous No.4923117]

I had a mental breakdown just now.

[Anonymous No.4923173]

>>4923069
Anon, just fucking talk to him. Prove him wrong.
Your dad's just lonely.

[Anonymous No.4923193]

>>4923117
Over what

[Anonymous No.4923195]

>>4923069
what the fuck, this sounds almost exactly like my life

[Anonymous No.4923217]

anons here most of the time start the most stupidest and useless threads , yet i still keep coming here. Wondering if there are any good active art forums or discussion sites that are worth lurking.

[Anonymous No.4923227]

>>4923062
I made a new account and forwarded my unposted art to it and it's still not showing up in the search results. It doesn't matter if I post from my mobile device or my PC or even the PC at a public space under a completely different, fresh account and unposted image I'm still getting blocked from social media.

What in the hell is going on exactly? Is it some kind of metadata that is getting carried over? Any other images that I don't create on the new account are viewable in the gobal twitter search but any image I make is not viewable. I can't be the only one experiencing this? Am I on a watchlist?

[Anonymous No.4923232]

>>4923217
Your best bet is finding a very small discord honestly. Many people here are ignorant underaged retards and normal fags, so they make a new thread for their crappy two minute doodle and say “thoughts?” because they couldn’t be asses to look for the proper thread. Other sites can be painful because accounts are required so people tend to filter out their true opinion on something

[Anonymous No.4923241]

>>4923232
Not previous anon, but how do you even find those? Many art discords are filled with asspatty idiots who have no interest in progressing or helping others progress. I see mention of holy grail communities all the time, but am never given direction.

[Anonymous No.4923252]

>>4923062
Alright I figured it out. As soon as I erased the exif data from the images my posts can be seen. My devices that I normally work on are banned. That's creepy.

[Anonymous No.4923256]

>>4923241
Well they’re hard to find because if they were easy, they’d just be clogged with people pretending they want to be a good artist as they proceed to do nothing but jack off for 6 months. I found a nice one from a certain thread General here, an anon was talking about making one for people who really wanted to improve so he made it, posted invite links once and about 10 people joined, a few stopped drawing and left so now it’s just like 5 of us and the creator who share material and sometimes help each other out, mostly we do share our daily drawings, not really looking for instant feed back, but just to share the artwork over time. Basically you need to just keep browsing or maybe even make the discord yourself, but keep any kind of elitism or opinions of someone’s work flow to yourself so no issues come up. Anyway I get the frustration but that’s what you sign up for when it comes to art, there are a lot of immature artists

[Anonymous No.4923264]

I don't know what kind of art I want to make anymore. Whatever idea I come up with feels so stupid I can't even bring myself to care about it, much less the others.
Experimenting with themes and styles only got me more lost and confused. I keep practicing but it feels increasingly more useless because even if I had a skill of a god I wouldn't know what to do with it.

[Anonymous No.4923270]

>>4923193
my mom triggered some emotions
I had to get it out eventually

[Anonymous No.4923289]

>>4923264
>feels so stupid
What are you talking about? Just do it. You need to learn to express yourself or you’ll end up never making anything in fear of embarrassment. Look at anime and manga, they’re full of “stupid” ideas but they get done. One piece has a stupid boy who can stretch like rubber and beat up people in a pirate world, Gurren Lagann has people from underground driving mechs fueled by spirit in space by the end, this could go on but the point is that stupid ideas shouldn’t be canned every time
>>4923270
I guess I understand. I used to be really depressed when I had no income, no where to go other than my home, jobs not hiring me, and my dad would yell at me to find a job and drink, so I’d be pretty unstable and not know what to do

[Anonymous No.4923320]

anyone else feels like /ic/ is heading the same way /cgl/ did in terms of drama vs actual artstuffs ratio

[Anonymous No.4923322]

>>4923320
Not feel, it is going that route.

[Anonymous No.4923376]

>>4923320
women causing trouble as usual

[Anonymous No.4923389]

>>4920696
>>4923270
You two should kiss

[Anonymous No.4923484]

>>4923320
women ruin all hobbies

[Anonymous No.4923486]

my headphones broke and now because my room is right next to the bathroom i have to listen to my families turds dropping all fucking day

[Anonymous No.4923490]

>>4923264
i know how you feel dude
really hurts when your "friends" won't even hear you out or feel like discussing your ideas with them
BUT NO they'll expect you to listen to what they're doing but won't even ask on what you're doing

they're only asking now just because i blew up on them, but now it just feels like pity.

[Anonymous No.4923495]

>>4923486
Fucking kek that must ruin your mood huh

[Anonymous No.4923496]

>>4922437
how am i wrong?

[Anonymous No.4923504]

>>4920063
but its what i want

[Anonymous No.4923525]

>>4923256
Thec lonesome road continues. Thanks for the hope though, anon.

[Anonymous No.4923637]

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON I can't post to social media I can't even fucking make threads without it vanishing in 2 seconds am I under surveillance or some shit?????

WHAT DID I DO FBI? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

[Anonymous No.4923658]

why is /draw/ so god damn dead? Where am i supposed to get all my shitty art advice from? FUCK

[Anonymous No.4923699]

>>4923658
everybody posts in /beg/ now get with the program

[Diego’s Art No.4923713]

My family called my art trash and all of the people who are supposed to be my friends are being toxic and resorting to name-calling

[Anonymous No.4923727]

>>4923699
/ic/ is really gay i guess. What's the point of the /draw/ then?

[Anonymous No.4923769]

>>4923496
Your not, that anon is just a faggot thats too lazy to put in effort into the information and doesn't have a spine to just say no or not reply.

[Anonymous No.4923781]

I'm tired of being poor. Aint got no laptop or tablet to draw on but I'm ready to take commissions. Moved back in with rents and they ridicule me whenever we talk about art so I don't talk about it. Only friends I had were from an old job I left because I had no time to draw, too anxious to hang out. I have plenty of time to take up a part time job and draw but nobody's hiring part-time. I've got another 10 weeks til money runs out but I've already spent 4 doing nothing. I'm stuck but the only thing in my way is myself. Compared to someone else who is really struggling, I'm blessed, but still can't make the most out of this. Generally this has been my life since I dropped out of uni about 5 years go. Spreading my eggs into 15 baskets and none of them are 'fruitful'. No discipline to stick to any projects or ideas, or communities to help me progress or get inspo from. I'm worried this will be my life forever, or that I'll give up, throw away the chances I've got and just delve into drugs til I go.

[Anonymous No.4923831]

>>4923495
i'm trying to grind forearm anatomy, it's frustrating as fuck as it is, when i heard a big splash and an after fountain of piss, i no joke actually started to cry.

[Anonymous No.4923896]

>>4921874
practice more gestures. all "imagination drawing" starts with a gesture

[Anonymous No.4924636]

>>4922119
:)

[Anonymous No.4924638]

>>4923069
This is my dad too.

[Anonymous No.4924677]

>>4924636

[Anonymous No.4924682]

>>4923069
This but with my mom. I blame /pol/ for this.

[Anonymous No.4925005]

>>4923069
>>4923195
>>4924682
Lmfao, why don't you just blow your parents out with FACTS and LOGIC? Seriously, your parents probably watched a few Alex Jones videos and are just panicky from the influx of info, it's the first stage of any paradigm shift.

5G does NOT cause any viruses or disease. No one's purposely putting estrogen or fluoride in our water to turn us gay and autistic. A society of elites is undoubtedly real as humans will always form closed social circles, but they're not an all powerful round table of lizard people.

[Anonymous No.4925007]

>>4925005
Are you a lizard?

[Anonymous No.4925024]

Man is drawing comics hard, but I really want to see these two characters fucking
Just stayed up to 3AM trying to finish the first page, kinda proud kinda tired...

[Anonymous No.4925045]

I wish I was born in the future where space wars are commonplace and I served a monarchy and feel like I had a sense of belonging to a country and my people.

[Anonymous No.4925080]

>>4925005
>5g doesnt do anything
>no one poisoned the water supplies
>fluoride isn't harmful
>we're not being ruled by baby eating satanist lizard people
That's exactly what a lizard people would say.

[Anonymous No.4925082]

>>4925080
I know, and why won't
>>4925005
Fucking tell me he's not a lizard?

[Anonymous No.4925086]

>>4925045
You don't want to be on the monarchys side, trust me. You'll have a place, and that's all.

[Anonymous No.4925197]

It took me a fucking week at the hospital to be somewhat productive when it comes to drawing. Now I'm back home and I'm doing nothing again

[Anonymous No.4925208]

>>4925005
>lizard people in our midst RIGHT NOW
Alex Jones was right, LISTEN TO YOUR PARENTS. Buy Super Male Vitality and Neuro-gains from InfoWars to protect your artistic gains!

[Anonymous No.4925213]

>>4925208
I mean, if he ever visited here, I wouldn't blame him for talking about satanic pedophiles all the time.

[Anonymous No.4925238]

Everything is just so goddamn distracting. My family is constantly making noise, and if I manage to drown it out for a while, I feel guilty for not interacting... My only friends are all sad, I feel guilty for being so unhelpful. My sleep is fucked. My stomach is upset every week, doesn't matter what I eat. My eye has been infected for over a month, can't afford a doctor visit. The world is dying under our shoes and my country is led by a retarded cartoon character who stopped being funny years ago. I grind for little crumbs of money but feel guilty for spending any of it on things that make me happy. I just want to draw. And yet I don't want to draw. Every fucking night. It's all right in front of me, but my mind just isn't with it. It's all so goddamn distracting.

[Anonymous No.4925240]

Going through another "explosive creativity" moment. But that never makes me productive, it instead makes me want to start 99999999 different projects at once and work on them.

I hate this. It's dopamine all day inside my brain, just thinking about all those cool ideas. But it's impossible to get any done. Even if time weren't a constraint, I'd be fucked by my own skill limitations.

[Anonymous No.4925248]

>>4919703
Why pedophile faggots have a safe space here why why WHY

[Anonymous No.4925262]

>>4925240
What is your secret, anon? Where do you get those 99999999 ideas from?

[Anonymous No.4925313]

AYEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.4925316]

>>4919441
it's been a few days but I just wanted to say I've been thinking about this a lot and I've come to believe that you're actually onto something. I feel like my outlook has improved significantly and I appreciate it a lot

A couple of things still bother me, however. First of all, if aesthetic appeal is entirely unimportant then why is every artist obsessed with improving their technical skills above all else? Secondly, if ideas live regardless of execution then does true improvement simply involve learning to have 'better' ideas? What does that process even look like?

[Anonymous No.4925370]

I can't be creative without being in love. I don't know why. It's such a shitty, unstable, unreliable source, but no matter how hard I try I cannot get inspired by anything else. When I'm out of love I'm empty and brain-dead and can only do studies and nothing else. This wouldn't be such a problem if it didn't last for literal years. I don't want to be dependant on some stupid fickle feeling, but I have no idea how to be creative on my own, how to have ideas I can care about without one of the characters being my self-insert and the other being the person I want to hug.

[Anonymous No.4925390]

>>4925370
Fuck off tranny

[Anonymous No.4925393]

>>4925313
no

[Anonymous No.4925503]

I've been improving a lot in the past year, but I've also finally realised that my art has no appeal whatsoever. The anatomy is (mostly) correct, I define the forms, my lighting is realistic, but it's all ugly as shit. Being so intent on making things look true to life has made me develop a really ugly style for faces and my figures are stiff because I'm too afraid of making the proportions wrong. My colours are true to my refs, but combined in a painting they don't pleasant at all. I also over-detail everything.

I'm trying to study stylisation and colours now, but I'm scared I've developped such a poor sense of aesthetics and overly convoluted painting process that I'll be stuck like this forever. I wish I could reset my brain.

[Anonymous No.4925513]

>>4925370
There there, everything will be okay. You'll be able to love one day.

[Anonymous No.4925521]

>about to line the sketch
>wait the facial expression looks weird
>redo it
>still weird
>redo it again 3 times and I'm still not pleased with it
For fucks sake. I have no idea how to get better at doing expressions

[Anonymous No.4925530]

>>4925521
You are me
I’ve been drawing a few faces a day every day for almost two years and I still don’t get them

[Anonymous No.4925533]

>>4925521
same. I default to the same expressions and at this point it's pissing me off as I want to do way more stuff with faces

[Anonymous No.4925648]

>not good enough to do realism
>too soulless to have a real style
>left with nothing but bland cartoons

[Anonymous No.4925672]

>>4925262
>>4925370
Was being called a tranny that nerve-wrecking to you?
I'm >>4925240 and, for one, I love myself. Maybe that's our main difference, as I don't need "outside inspiration" to be creative and ache for making things. I do need external motivation to put anything in action, though, cause I'm a procrastinator.

I would love to feel love for others, but I don't. I haven't, more than a couple short times in my life.

So all my energy is used towards consuming information, measuring it against my previous knowledge and moral compass, idealizing, picking favorites, saving ideas "for later". I'll binge-read Wikipedia one day and translate a poem the other. Watch that movie I always wanted to but didn't cause I procrastinate entertainment too, but sometimes I'll download some movie I didn't know anything about, but whose one scene caught my attention on a webm thread.
I could live 20 lives and not run out of brain juice for these things, it's too stimulating.

My meager corpus of creations is very dear to me, and each new character is a potential universe that I will always feel guilty about not developing. None is (as far as I can tell) a self-insert or an ideal wife to me, but maybe they are ideal children, since I like them so much.

No advice here, but hope it gives you some perspective/insight.

[Anonymous No.4925673]

>>4925521
start doing it in fineliners so you immedetly know whats wrong with your faces instead of hidding behind sketch phases

[Anonymous No.4925679]

>>4925672
good for you, you want a medal or something?

[Anonymous No.4925682]

>>4922363
i want to be a good friend who gets interested in other peoples stuff
but i'm just depressed. i see them improve drastically but my depression is holding me back from the same. when i'm starting to get out of my funk i see their stuff and just lose my motivation and self worth

[Anonymous No.4925686]

>>4925679
I was specifically asked, and I write this with not a small hint of despair.
Keep your medal, give me some of your remaining lifespan.

[Anonymous No.4925687]

>>4925682
You could do studies together, a collab or anything together. The problem is that you can't see them as an equal.

[Anonymous No.4925702]

I'm not improving; I'm just catching up to the weeks and months of ability that I had 2 years ago due to moping and not drawing frequently. With maybe a tiny shred of passive improvement.

[Anonymous No.4925757]

>>4919703
>Are you having a good day, anon?
Not really. I've posted in /alt/ pretty much every day for the past two weeks and never gotten any replies. Not a single one. Is there such a thing as being shadowbanned on 4chan? Maybe my posts aren't even showing up to other people.

[Anonymous No.4925760]

>>4925757
pyw and we'll reply right now

[Anonymous No.4925764]

>>4925760
Here's my most recent draw.

[Anonymous No.4925766]

>>4925757
Is it anime or coom bait? If not then give up.

[Anonymous No.4925783]

>>4925764
You're not getting any responses because it's a black.

[Anonymous No.4925785]

>>4925764
You are in the no man's land where you're not good enough to warrant 'blog?' but not bad enough to warrant derision. This is actually a very broad zone between beg and int, so if you want replies you'll need to specify what you need.

That aside, pic is OK. Highly stylized, so critiquing anatomy or perspective is kinda pointless, obviously everyone could work on those subjects more. It's just kinda bland, but for working on technical knowledge it's decent practice.

[Anonymous No.4925786]

>>4925764
/beg/

[Anonymous No.4925802]

>>4925783
Surely not everyone hates black people though.
>>4925785
Thanks for the reply. Guess I gotta study and/or work on my style more.
>>4925786
oh

[Anonymous No.4925939]

>>4925672
wtf are you doing out of the clone chamber?
Get back here.

[Anonymous No.4925946]

>>4925687
i've done collabs before
its honestly made me feel like dead weight
i feel like i can't take art as seriously them even if its something i also do everyday. like there's something wrong with me and i'm not capable of being an artist

[Anonymous No.4925951]

>>4925946
Then stop obsessing about being good and do it for fun.

[Anonymous No.4925953]

>>4925248

WHY

[Anonymous No.4925960]

>>4925951
i used to do it for fun, but never improved. people have told me my art sucks because i'm not taking art seriously and i don't grind enough. but when i grind i always feel like i'm doing it right either

[Anonymous No.4925966]

>>4925764
Cute

[Anonymous No.4926077]

>>4925802
No need to hate blacks in order to find them less visually interesting. (But, for reference, I hate blacks.)

[Anonymous No.4926118]

>lack motivation and stop drawing for 3 days
>regress heavily
I must be retarded to not remember what I practiced just a few days ago.

[Anonymous No.4926120]

>>4926077
stop being so hateful, not everything is what you see on the news

[Anonymous No.4926123]

My monitor died after 7 years of service and now I’m down to using only 2 screens ;-;

[Anonymous No.4926516]

Only got two months worth of emergency saving left. Still trying to support my family any way i can, since i'm the only one without a job. I've applied to almost everything and still haven't gotten any contact back. The only type of job i haven't applied too was burger shit, since the last one i had made me really depressed. Doesn't give me any hope that every time in turn around another burger joint has closed down due to covid.

I'm trying to see if i can become a commission artist, since art is my only "skill" that i have developed. I've been grinding my ass off for the past few months, while it's better, it's still not good enough to start(at least not something i'd pay for) The anatomy is better, but i still don't know how to line art and color to make it actual art. I just feel so uncertain about everything right now.

[Anonymous No.4926524]

>>4926077
Twat

[Anonymous No.4926542]

>>4925316
It's nice to hear anon. It's no small personal source of misery for me watching artists twist themselves into a myopic perspective and suffer for it.
>learning to have 'better' ideas?
Yes! and no, it's somewhat a trap to try to delineate, if you were perfectly able to do so, you'd just singularity yourself to perfection- or your version of it.(there's an interesting thought experiment btw). Similarly, aesthetic appeal isn't just made of nothing or random, it very much is attached to underlying ideals.
But how do people know a good idea? It simply has its own gravity. You say "I like that." Whether it's a social rule that says 'don't kill each other randomly' or the form of a line, a character's haircut, a shape of cloth, etc. So think of it as forming truer or higher fidelity ideas. A cartoon doesn't really have fidelity to the human form does it? No, it's true to an extrapolation of that form with its own set of 'rules'. Artists have long been considered sensitive types, and it makes sense, because in order to make anything with any kind of appeal, seems to me a good idea to being open/ sensitive to what made that in the first place. Develop that sensitivity far enough and it can become a passion. What do you suppose you'll lack if you have that? Every thing you enjoy had a humble start. Everything.
But if you want to fast track your ideas to nowhere, and yourself to misery, then start by putting arbitrary distinctions on what you'll allow yourself to enjoy. How much? Well, how much would you like to limit yourself?
It's not perfect or all encompassing, but I think it's a good start, and I hope it helps anon.

[Anonymous No.4926553]

>>4920696
AAAAAAA and she won’t fucking stop, I’m THIS close, THIS FUCKINF CLOSE TO SOCKING THAT USELESSS ANNOYIYUNT HAG 8N HER HAG FACE, WHY WONT SHE JUSST LEANE HER FUCKING PLACE, sazaaa@www if I could get away with it I’d have beaten her senseless by now many times over, I just wanna slap her across the face real hard and grab her shoulders and shake some fucking SENSE 8nto her, I swear I hope she suffers in her final years, FUCKKCKKKKJJN

[Anonymous No.4926558]

>>4926553
She completely ruins my productivity by ruining my mood, I might actually act on all this rage someday if she pushes far enough, and it’d be all her fault too

[Anonymous No.4926588]

>>4919703
Had a talk with family about life. Still thinking about what career I should take. I took a year of college for 2d animation but I blew it. I wish I could tell them I'm more worried about my fears of dating and if I can get a girl but that feels embarrassing, and I know they want me to focus on education and getting a better job. I think the only way I can get a girl is if I double down on improving my art so I can be another twitter artist. But it's been years since I made a real drawing or a really good sketch. And that would get in my way of working.

[Anonymous No.4926637]

>>4925316
>if aesthetic appeal is entirely unimportant then why is every artist obsessed with improving their technical skills above all else?
If you have skill, you can choose how you do your creation and have a wider variety of options on how do you express yourself. It can be simple, complex, realistic, abstract, etc.
If you have no skill your options are limited by your lack of knowledge, and it may hold you back to being able to convey what you want in a drawing/painting/sculpture/etc.
Famous example is Picasso. Before going for his cubist stuff he learned traditional realistic art, then he later decided to go against all of it and make art which was unique for the era, even if most consider it ugly. People can argue all they want if they think Picasso is good or bad, but the fact that he studied traditional art skills basically gave him the guidance on "how to make the least realistic art possible".


>if ideas live regardless of execution then does true improvement simply involve learning to have 'better' ideas?
You can only have ideas based on your history of knowledge. This comes from everything in your life. The people you see, the language you speak, the culture you know, the art you look and the art you make. Studying and practicing simple increase your "knowledge backlog", which in exchange expand your potential for new ideas.
For example, if you have never seen a cat in your life it would probably be very hard to imagine a cat, even if someone described it for you. Since you've seen cats before, you know how they look, thus you can reproduce them, even if abstractly. If you practice cats over and over again, eventually you'll memorize specific proportions, textures and sizes, giving you more options on how can you represent a cat in your next art piece.
Having better ideas is simply a matter of having more ideas and selecting the best ones based on your knowledge.

[Anonymous No.4926769]

i whish i had art friends but every people outside of 4chan seems absolute shit normies but i won't join any discord here and the majority of people who post here are too beg and the ones that aren't are asholes... i feel so lorny...

[Anonymous No.4926771]

>>4926769
>the majority of people who post here are too beg
Then become your own friend.

[Anonymous No.4926773]

Not really a vent but I'm really glad I found a very supportive place of artists with similar interests. I finally feel like I have no reason to keep browsing this shithole anymore.

[Anonymous No.4926777]

>>4926773
can they say nigger tho? yeah i thought that

[Anonymous No.4926779]

>>4926777
I don't think anyone would care but there's nobody infantile enough to spout that stuff

[Anonymous No.4926782]

>>4926773
Good job, anon. if you plan on browsing here again, just do it for the memes and laughs. That’s what this shithole is original for.

[Anonymous No.4926820]

>>4926118
>have motivation and focus my practice on specific weakpoints
>regress on everything else
it's actually just bullshit any which way

[Anonymous No.4926828]

>>4926777
blessed trips of freedom

[Anonymous No.4927888]

>>4925757
/alt/ doesn’t really reply unless you’re really good or an anon decides you’re bad enough to talk to.
It’s probably nothing.

[Anonymous No.4927942]

>>4919713
>still using dip pen
>rinse and carefully wipe out nib after every use
>leave on end to make sure it's drying properly
>2 days later
>tube that slots in the holder is full of rust
i might be retarded lads

[Anonymous No.4927966]

>>4927942
You're not touching the nib with your fingers, right? You should only handle it with a tissue or paper towel or something. Don't get your skin oils on it.

[Anonymous No.4927973]

>>4927942
Wait, you didn't take your nib out of the nib holder? Bro you're not supposed to leave it in especially if you've had water on it wtf

[Anonymous No.4928000]

>>4927973
yeah, it's basically rusted onto the holder now.

[Anonymous No.4928014]

what's with the political baiting threads? seems out of place for this board

[Anonymous No.4928026]

Lads I'm struggling with faces so much

[Anonymous No.4928090]

>>4926773
This is my dream.
May I ask, is this irl place or online?
How did you find it?

[Anonymous No.4928100]

>>4928014
>Weeks before the general election
>GEE WHAT'S WITH ALL THIS TALK ABOUT POLITICS I JUST WANT TO GRILL FOR G-D'S SAKE

[Anonymous No.4928101]

fuck you anime style haters lmao

[Anonymous No.4928195]

>>4928100
You say this like fucking americans haven't made everything into constant politics for over 5 years now.

[Anonymous No.4928223]

>forgot to save work
>start again
>an hour in I check if it's in the recovery backup folder
>it's not
>go back to drawing
>all my layers are gone
>ctrl z does nothing
i'm about to lose it

[Anonymous No.4928248]

>>4928100
there are zero undecided burgers on this website, and this is the grilling board, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4928257]

i just struggle to spend more than an hour on anything

[Anonymous No.4928409]

>>4919703
I have gone past doing requests and now am wanting to make my own art but I lack ideas on how to progress with regards to things like concept art for characters for my game. I just don't know where to start so I'm moving inch by inch on the programming side of things rather than the actual art.

[Anonymous No.4928436]

>>4919703
>neet
>mentally paralyzed the minute i try to work hard at essentially anything
>can't sit still despite my life being occupied with literally nothing
>can't imagine a future that is even remotely enjoyable
>turn off internet in an attempt to get work done; can't
>envious/feel like shit when I see amazing artists even though they've clearly earned their success
>not having fun with entertainment/distractions at all
>only thought is "why aren't you working hard"

most of my days are just waking up in the evening and being in this fidgety inactive state until sunrise. I need help so i don't kill myself, am i going mad?
I've been fighting burnout for several years, each year is harder than the last.

[Anonymous No.4928532]

I'm struggling to draw or create things for myself.
I feel like whatever I make needs to be validated or enjoyed by at least one person.
But at the same time I don't want to just pander and make something I have no interest in.
I think if I just made something for my own amusement I would be making stuff more often and I'm sure people would still like my output.
How do I rewire so I can enjoy drawing things for myself too and not just for others?

[Anonymous No.4929198]

>>4928090
Online. I found it thanks to another artist

[Anonymous No.4929334]

>>4928436
I get this on the small scale - so a tea and a cold shower w/ music tends to do the trick.
Personally I find having a variety of 'easy' and 'hard' tasks to be the best way to always be active. For example, exercise and learning a language are 'easy' , since you're essentially just on a pair of well worn railroad tracks; while I consider drawing to be 'hard' since it requires insane amounts of self reflection, criticism, and redirection to patch holes in the ship as they appear (similar deal with writing btw).
This way, even when I'm too retarded to do a 'hard' task, I can default to a relatively simple railroad (exercise, learning language, [insert basic bitch productive thing here] , and I can use that as a segue into the harder duties.
I also have that annoying nagging voice of 'why the fuck arent you working retard' whenever I start playing games, etc. Pain in the ass but it ends up helping if you can obey it somewhat.

[Anonymous No.4929349]

>try to draw myself again
>i draw what i see but others say it might as well be someone else
>yet my portraits of others are similar enough
??

[Anonymous No.4929861]

kek the crab thread may be dead but i can definitely tell you all are still present in many threads
proud of ya, keep up the good work and lets make this world a better place

[Anonymous No.4930264]

>>4928532
whenever you're feeling bad
like so bad you can't even draw. write down how you feel and any ideas that come to mind
then you'll have something

[Anonymous No.4931544]

Fuck it, I quit Twitter.

[Anonymous No.4931562]

>>4923376
>>4923484
Silly anons, women don't exist on 4chan.

[Anonymous No.4931566]

>>4925248
cope, faggot.

[Anonymous No.4931570]

>>4931544
Why were you even there in the first place? Twitter is a shithole.

[Anonymous No.4931609]

A friend I used to enjoy drawing with found a better art friend

[Anonymous No.4931855]

>>4931609
I wish I didnt know this feel

[Anonymous No.4931905]

>>4931609
>>4931855
I wish I had a pal to draw with.

[Anonymous No.4931936]

>>4931544
I'm going to shitpost during the election cycle and see how long it takes them to ban me.

[Anonymous No.4931937]

>>4931570
>implying 4chan isn’t a shithole either.

[Anonymous No.4932004]

>>4931609
>>4931855
>this kills the heart.

[Anonymous No.4932060]

>>4931544
lmafo faggot boomer

use keywords and tags, suck up your lowbrow ego and pander like the under 1k follower pleb you are or you'll never get anywhere

[Anonymous No.4932603]

>>4919703
i am having a very calm day today. my only troubles are that every day after work i just don't feel anything when i start to draw. i used to draw everyday last year, but know i just don't feel motivated to put the pencil on paper and draw. i spend everyday playing vidya. do you know of any ways to geg inspired and motivated?

another problem i have is i want to draw hentai doujins but do not know where to start? any ideas. please and thank you

.Anonymous