/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4939704
I have issues studying art, my ADHD doesn't let me learn by visual alone and yet that's the advice all my art teachers give me and the way they all make me learn, "just watch how this works and replicate it!" simply doesn't work for me and I feel like my art has stagnated because of that.
It's taken a tool on my self esteem which depresses me more, and that makes me draw worse.

>>4939697
Dunno if you're still here, but you can still buy Vilppu's drawing manual from vilppuacademy.com. You just have to email them. The only books they have published atm are the Drawing Manual and "Vilppu's sketchbook" (I think its his artbook), but they told me they're planning to republish his other books soon, including the Sketching on Location manual and his Composition book.

I wish time stop and responsibility isn't a thing.

>>4939714
I have had the same issue. Just tell your teacher you are a hands on learner. Ask them for one on one time where they walk you through it while you do it.

I've been dealing with suicidal ideation for the past year, on and off. I'd figure I'm past it then it'd come back.

Started working out 6 days a week now, drawing and writing every day.
I've set some petty, short-term goals to keep my mind off it and it's helped a lot.

I still feel kind of pathetic, having drawn for 7 years now with a disproportionate lack of skill, but I'm seeing gains and getting faster.
The exercise, though I dislike doing it, has helped cure the pain in my thumbs, wrists, and back.

I won't say I'm past it, but I'm feeling a lot better these days

Haven't drawn anything in three weeks. Haven't browsed /ic/ either, until now. Feels like they're both for the best.

>>4939704
Derek dies when Derek dies. You cannot harass me or rob me to give to him. Go fuck yourself.

3 months of my life, I've spent like 3 months trying to learn to draw and frankly I've always known it was going to be this way, fucking hell, i feel pathetic, 3 months, sure i stopped at times but two weeks max
and im mentally ill so that fucks me over too and i cant bear it, i cant take it, ive given up
im actually getting worse, my peak was this piece of shit.
Today I was finally ready to quit, got a bunch of drawings, paper and tools made a bonfire out of it and I hate myself but I held onto some pages, pages in which I keep failing. I want to stop, Im never going to be good at drawing and I dont have the time for it anymore but I held onto some and made some lines, yeah lines, i dont even know what to fucking draw.

>>4941085
To add to this, Im fucking old, Im 19 soon to be 20, neuroplasticity will go away so I have to pick something but frankly, life is just bullshit to me.

>>4941085
>>4941088
>3 months
>only 20
>muh neuroplasticity
Retard

>>4941100
eat shit fucker, the science is solid on that, its now or never

>>4941101
stfu retard, if you're whining at 3 months you should just kys

>>4941107
>>4941107
another guy at /beg/ is miles better than me on those same 3 months, ive got no talent

>>4941101
>>4941085
Literally ngmi. Not because you objectively can't, but because your unrelenting goalpost moving will never let you get there. If you started drawing at 20 and are this stressed about it after 3 months, you're not actually drawing because you enjoy it. You're drawing to prove a point.

If you can't enjoy the process you'll never be satisfied. Stop being autist/ic/ and just draw when you feel like drawing man, ffs.

>>4939704
I haven't drawn since my mom died. It's been 3 months, and I don't know when I'll be able to pick it back up.

>>4941115
wtf you asshole you're basing your entire depression off 1 guy, how about you look at the millions of others who are way more dogshit?

I wish these threads can suck my dick of instead of sucking the joy out of me

>>4941088
fuck you i wish i was 19 again

>>4941121
My condolences anon

>spend 4 hours sketching beautiful nun playing the organ at church today
>she asked if she could have the drawing and I just had to give it to her for free
God is cruel.

>>4941065
What does that mean? Are you ok anon

>>4941138
>had to
did she cast some sort of spell on you or what.

My art is objectively ugly. And I'm not even /beg/

>>4941100
Don't set standards that high for yourself, many people on /ic/ are in their mid-20s and been drawing for at least some years, don't fret about the ngmi shit, just improve and get good otherwise art isn't for you, be realistic.

I've been doing commissions for most of the year for a mid-sized production of an american "indie anime," and I'm able to replicate the art style well enough, but I can't draw my own characters anymore and it's making me hate myself and my art.
For some reason I can draw things for money and not feel any hesitation at all and feel fine, even happy with the results. Not just because I'm being paid but also because I think the art actually looks good. But when I draw my own characters who I want to look as good as possible, I clam up and the overbearing left brain kind of pumps the breaks, and the resulting image suffers for it.
I don't know what the way toward getting better looks like and it feels like I'm confused about what I really want my art and my characters to look like in the first place. If I loosen up too much, the resulting image looks like shit. I might try photobashing my characters out of other images to see if maybe that'll help me have a clearer mental picture. I've already tried doing breakdowns of artists that I like(so far Guweiz and Ilya) to kind of mixed results: their work is more painterly and I'm trying to hone in on something that I can animate.
I spent maybe 4 hours today on a drawing that just didn't work out and I just feel bad now.

>>4941121
My mom died last March. Stay strong, brother. It's going to be alright. We're gonna get through this.

>>4941143
Maybe im autistic but it seemed to be proper courtesy to give something like that to the person and church I used as reference

>>4941121
>>4941152
Fug..how old are you bros?

>>4941154
on my mid 20s

>>4941153
It's a nice gesture anon, you should be happy. Look at it this way, in a year's time, who is likely to appreciate it more, her or you?

>>4941121
>>4941152
I'd been through a lot beforehand, but my grandmother's injury and later death put the breaks on my ability to make art for awhile. I had to take care of her while she was on her way out, that had something to do with it. I couldn't rationalize my way back to being productive or inspired in any meaningful way because we're human and we don't just live in our heads, you know? So just breathe and be patient with yourselves anons, the pain is part of a process, and don't be too frustrated with yourselves if things don't go back to normal for awhile. It's okay and its something that everyone has to get through at some point in their lives. Condolences.

>>4941155
We are here for you, hope you will find a way to channel your feelings into something productive like your art

>>4941163
>>4941164
You're a good egg, anon(s), don't ever change that.

>>4941163
>>4941164
thank you

I’m fine not having a large audience I just don’t want to become homeless. Art is the only thing I can do competently but I’m too slow and imperfect to find employment through it

I may truly become a NEET and just draw 5 or so hours a day and then shoot myself when mommy and daddy’s money runs dry

I’m lazy, I’m too stubborn, and most of all I’m too stupid to survive on my own in late capitalism. This is the only way forward so I’m going to draw as much cool shit as I can before Things get really bad

>>4941085
Dumbass, that looks better than most people at 3 months. Shut the fuck up and keep practicing dude.

>>4941184
Man I feel that. There's always the possibility that your art is good enough for someone out there, and if you find that person/people, you can get better and more efficient with your process by working for deadlines and spending money.
If you're lazy or easily distractable, setting yourself loose with no responsibilities or time commitments is a recipe for more of what you're already doing with your freetime. You need some kind of frame to operate in, some kind of task or responsibility. Otherwise you're like a PC with no OS installed./

>>4941195
>like a pc with no os installed
Mfw

3D surfaces make me nut.

I just want to give up desu but I can't, I dunnu why but when I stop drawing for a while I miss drawing and I comeback to it.
But with drawing comes frustrations and I'm depressed always about my progress.
I have been drawing for like 4 years and I'm still at beg level I can't progress at all becuae of my lack of critical thinking. I have always been this dumb kid no matter how much I try I never succeed.
I have paid alot to get into courses with feedback in figure drwwing/digital painting/organic or construction sketching/perspective . It is all the same result failure
They all almost have the same feedback " you are don't understand the concept/idea right, you need to slow down, you need to analyze, break down the model, etc..,"
Also I'm always afraid of trying something new or drawing from reference and getting constant frustration when doing it.
I just don't have it and yet I can't bring myself to stop trying and practicing.

>>4939704
I've never had depression in my life and I've been around for a couple of decades. Have had depressive periods, been down, but never been clinically depressed. I am now. I feel awful about it because being depressed is pretty lame, makes one say and think edgy stupid shit. So I slap on my smiley face and try to pretend shit ain't as bad as it is. I mostly keep in touch with anyone over the internet anyway, so they can't really tell. I spend my days sleeping, doing whatever work I absolutely have to to keep getting a salary, and I just exist
It's pretty exhausting and I don't know how to stop it.

Sorry for the blog

>>4939714
if you have trouble paying attention, watch while doing something else with your hands or exercise. then also trace and try to duplicate or copy cartoons. do a lot of that, and you will eventually be able to draw better lines and follow techniques faster. draw many simple shapes, and practice cursive writing

Turns out those #junkterrorbill Filipino people that follow me on Twitter are just different breed of Communists like the #blm my coworkers and old schoomatrs post online. I just want to post fanarts of random cartoon and videogames i still enjoy, none of thesese politically inclined retards that aren't even subbing on my patreon.

>>4941503
why are they following you in the first place

>>4941503
I feel like Twitter is awful for fan art. Unironically deviantart, tumblr and Pixiv is where you want to live. You don't get a niche following by shilling on normie platforms.
And fuck the tumblr stigma. It's just a livejournal successor.

>>4941396
Hey anon, being frustrated and depressed with your results is part of the process of getting good at art. The fact that you still stick it through to art and kept drawing shows that you deeply have a pursued interest in art. You will get better with time, effort, and study. No matter if you think you will or won't. So as long as you're drawing and trying to improve you are gonna make it no matter what. You just need to take a step back and enjoy the process. Just drawing for fun even if your drawings looks like crap will help. Let loose and don't give a fuck! Please remember to have fun!

WHY IS CLOTHING ESPECIALLY CLOTHING WITH TEXTURE SO HARD FOR MY LIZARD BRAIN TO UNDERSTAND AND PAINT AAAHHHHHH

My main issue is that as someone who started in his late teenage years,I feel like I can't have the credit of just messing around with bad drawing or having a crappy anime phase since
I'm already aware of the existence of fundies that "artists of my age don't draw like that anymore."

There's also that fear of stagnation,I know examples of artist who drew for more than 5 years and producing work that,at least for me looks not that good for such years of practice.

And last but not least I'm currently struggling with enjoying the process,It maybe fun sometimes but I've recently found myself quit in the middle of a drawing just because I was dissapointed.

>>4941943
and that*
sorry

I have been learning to draw the head for a couple weeks now and I’m legit about to just pull a Kyle and use some hacks because I get 100 percent the procedure of breaking down a head but visually seeing the box in space is what’s fucking me up. Every single time. Traceover a photo? No problem. Trace over a 3D model the construction underneath? Easy. Freehand drawing the head? Sorry sir but your box is about a few percentage off which means everything is fucked.

Maybe being a hack is the way and that the old people in the industry can wing it because they have 20 years experience drawing over and over. Maybe this is coping that boxes, no matter how much I draw them, still bite me hard. Well what am I typing for let me try the Kyle method...

>>4942318
Oh wait on second thought heads aren’t just floating but connect to a neck. Tracing over a model is only going to get me so far due to the limitations of the model. Unless I’m prepared to work with the whole figure model rather than a floating head model...hmmm

>>4939739
Thanks, I looked and the 2017 version was sold out everywhere. I'll email them,

>>4942325
I went through my old dms and totally forgot advice I was given (question I asked) by this guy about this sort of thing. His work was pretty good last year and now it's top tier good. Yeah, Imma take the kyle pill.

A friend had been looking to buy her first car, she ended up getting a BMW X1 calling it "affordable"...
Today I'm reminded again how the rich live in completely different realities.

>>4942390
Actually I'm starting to get it now, I just needed a break. I won't hack afterall.

Y'all are a bunch of bitches.

I have a really weird need to draw the girls from Genshin Impact but I don't even play the game, I just saw my cousin playing it and I loved the designs but I try to never draw characters from things I dont consume

>>4939704
I wanna move on from somewhat alright floating loomis heads but i feel like i can't.

I just keep doing the 3/4ths angle with the side oval and cross lines because it feels safe. Even then they aren't super good and I can recognize I'm in a trap but im not sure how to move out of it.

I'm 28 and I wanna create characters and comics god damn it.

>>4941121
>>4941152
Mine died a few years ago, she suffered a lot prior thanks to stage 5 cancer, it returning even after having her breasts removed, having to get very heavy chemo therapy etc. it destroyed me for a few years but I’m okay now, I think the next most important thing to do is become someone who your mom would be proud of and try your best, don’t waste time

Anyone who posts in /vent/ instead of /alt/ or /las/ is a NGMI - all the time you spend making these vapid blogposts could be spent studying Vilpppu or Proko or Shadow, for God's sake --- what's wrong with you?

>>4943007
/las/ doesn't exist anymore

>>4942968
draw my daughter klee

>>4941138
being that you post on this board I'm surprised you didn't shout NO and run away

>>4942976
why's everyones mom dying? feel better bros :(

I DONT WANNA DO MY HOMEWORK

my former art friend blocked me everywhere

>>4942969
loomis isn't the end all be all of art teachers
frankly books are a terrible way to learn compared to video
if you can find a torrent of actual video lectures and demos take those instead

>>4943244
Pay me

my gf is an attention whore and I don't know what to do

A grandma asked me for direction today and I gave her wrong direction which is opposite of where she wanted to go. Her smile and "thank you" still stick with me and I feel like an asshole.

>>4943455

If you did it on purpose you are a dick. If not, well, shit happens.

How do I ask Konsui if she wants to go on a date with me?

>>4943406
>BREAKUP
>breakup
>GRABYERBRUSHANDPURALITTLE MAKEUP

Can I vent if it's happy excitement I'm venting? Today I drew the first dog I feel good with and proud to have drawn. It's /beg/ trash by /ic/ standards but I'm happy with it. I started drawing on and off 4 years ago (mostly off) and the process has been a mix of frustration and rewarding feelings. So this has felt very rewarding for the first time in a while.

>>4943508
>If you did it on purpose you are a dick
If you did it on purpose you are based. Crabbing has no age limit

I've done a couple commissions. I know I'm barely good enough to do anything and it was only 5 dollars each, but I felt so much passion to make something good then. I want to do art more so I can make better commissions but I have absolutely no passion for any sort of practice. Having someone else want my art so much that they would pay even a dollar is such a great motivator but no one is gonna pay me do gestures and boxes

Just recently found out one of my artist friends was outed as a pedophile who cheated on his girl with minors. Not sure how to feel about it. He was always so nice to me and always gave off a "fuck drama" aura, spouting all kinds of feel good shit and better yourself only to be diddling kids in the background.

>>4943455
I didn't do it on purpose which is why I feel like shit.

>>4943708
was your grandma ever found

Getting married was a mistake. It killed my art life.

>want to take a break from art (and pretty much everything

>don't want to lose my current skills

>Starts to feel like shit after talking about my art and my ambitions because I know that "the more you talk the less you do"

>Possibly burned out but my friends and familly don't know and those who know don't take that seriously

>Think about talking to a therapist,ashamed of that

>>4943669
how old were the "minors"?

Am I supposed to use my imagination to practice gestures or use references?

>>4939704
My art has no appeal. Heavily considering just taking the coompill

>>4943748
When gesture drawing, it's better to reference Live model in front of you, in a studio. But you are free to use reference google images and other static posing people. Make sure you learn how line of action gives stability in poses. Use reference heavily until you can imagine any character in any line of action you draw on canvas.

But if you post it online always say it's from imagination, even it's your first time drawing it just to fuck with beginners.

>>4943751
As a coomfag, my art has exponentially improved from a month. Take it.

How do I workout if I'm a fat autistic loser that can't walk to the gym

>>4943869
Buy a bike and ride late at night.

>>4943869
stationary bike

Just realised that I'm still trash

>>4943381
Why?
Were you being really annoying

>>4943744
Probably 16 or 17.
Even though in most states that legal age of consent.

>>4943954
What's the point of teen girls having tight vaginas if no one's going to use them

>>4943956
I think the bigger question is how tf do these guys manage to have all these young girls wrapped around their fingers when majority of them look like pic related.

>>4943958
Showing off how much "influence" they have to easily impressionable teens. not to mention making them feel like said teens are smarter than they really are by treating them like "adults"

>be me
>drawing the usual inoffensive figure drawings
>urge to pee
>get up from my desk
>brain gets out of artist-mode
>mind realizes I've been staring at nude bodies for half an hour
>get a boner as I walk to the toilet
>can't pee

Every damn time, bros ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>4943748
do a 30 minute figure session then do some from imagination
its a good practice imo

>>4943751
twitter isn't the only place for artists

>>4941398
honestly i get that shit
for the last 25 years i've just had minimal periods of sadness, lot of failures but its not like its been a terrible life

but two weeks ago it all just hit me
i don't think its a mid-life crisis but knowing that you never had much to show for your life except failures and continue to fail is heartbreaking

>want to buy a $60 video game but got no money
>got client work for $1,200 but that's literally all for rent.
>get desperate and open an ArtistsnClients account on the side for $30 commissions.
>girl commissions me
>wall of text of IDGAF character story
>"the black sheep of a prestigious family of elves, her long snowy locks frame her flawless silk skin face"
>this is the reference


i forgot how much i fucking hated doing commissions

>>4939704
no (you)s, not in my art, nor in my shitposts.

time to leave i guess.

>>4939704
Why does work read so differently on different devices? I view on a 4k screen, larger cheaper monitor, and my phone. Work looks different from device to device. It's so irritating. Anyone else have these feels?

How do i keep myself from losing motivation when seeing artwork i really like thats fan art of a series i love as well, fellas? It hurts thinking "wow, too bad i won't be able to do that for years"
>>4944267
Probably oled to lcd and color calibration. Oled screens make work look beautiful

>>4943381
>Anonymous
I understand how you feel. Same happened to me after they started therapy. I'm happy they're doing better but wish they could have at least said something before blocking me everywhere. I promise it gets easier though, there are lots of other people who want art friends out there.

My estranged dad ended up in critical condition in the hospital. Didn't find out for a week. He ended missing a vein while shooting meth and he got a massive infection. Even though I don't like him its make it really difficult to focus on my own art.

>>4944771
>enstranged
>drug abuser
Who cares. Hes just another man on the street at that point

>>4944006
I always get a lot of (you)s on /beg/, but most of them are to tell me to stop drawing or that my drawings are cringe.

>>4944775
I'm trying, It's just not that easy. I was around him till I was like 15 but we haven't really interacted in 8 years or so. It's just complicated.

>>4944771
i wish my estranged dad would hurry up and kick the bucket.

>>4944875
you're a good person anon

>>4944803
well, at least it is a reaction.

>>4939704
>want to draw for pleasure
>get more skilled in drawing
>get even more pleasure from drawing
>draw good enough to convey your stories into paper
>wake up
>its just your imagination instead
>you are going by another day without drawing
>have to pursue a uni degree and a career, that you dont even want to have, instead
it got so bad that im actually enjoying myself when i draw for uni, thats very bad bros
i should have been more assertive, but i cant
>inb4
>just follow your dreams then dude
>what are you waiting for you pussy
im an adult, but i still care too much about what my parents expect of me
im a robot


im compelled to stay
im compelled to obey
and now here i post because of them, because of them im still just an agent of their system
because of them i havent changed, im still pluged, an adult child, so to speak, unlike you obviously bound

>>4944006
you will get used to it anon and learn to accept it
thats just the fate of invisible men

(1/2)I just want to enjoy drawing again. I get so stressed and tense now when i try to draw i feel incredibly miserable. I get so worried its going to look like shit or im not learning or if im drawing right or wrong. Theres so many mistakes, it gets overwhelming and i feel sick.
>Is the anatomy right is the perspective right is the lighting clothing hair colour etc correct.
Most of the time it isnt or i am being overly pessimistic.
>pay attention to the line the accuracy the measurements dont erase make sure to get it all right in 1 go, does it match the figure? Can you understand all that?
I feel so overwhelmed trying to keep at this in mind.
>you dont have a reference or reference doesnt match exactly what was needed
What do i do? How do i know if its right or wrong, is the clothing ok? Can i even draw in a perspective like that? How can i change the reference to match the proportions I want? What if its wrong? What if i wanted to change the clothing or acessories? What if its wrong, what do i do?
>the construction is wrong or i completely fail to understand what I an doing.
What do i do to fix it, does this even make sense, can i even comprehend this if it was like a 3d modeling software(no).
>the sketch fails to exactly match the picture
Where did i go wrong? Can i even understand the 3d form, why am I not understanding. Why is every part from line to rendering irredeemable.

(2/2)
I feel horrible because there was many times i wanted to do drawings for friends or myself but never could finish them due to feeling horribly inadequate and i felt like id be giving my friends just a garbage drawing, or falling so far behind my expectations. I feel so horribly lost and confused. I dont know what went wrong, do I over pressure myself to suceed but just completely break under the pressure in which i just cant even move. It doesnt help at all that I dont even understand what my favourite artists are doing when they create a piece. Then i pressure myself to get to a similar level but then squirm like an ant under a heel of a boot because im nowhere near that nor understand what their doing.
I remember a prof, reccomending me a book to read(forgot the name) it just instructed me to draw things out of cubes spheres cones cylinders and shit. I tried with stuff like furniture but it out so god aweful the perspective was so terribly off. The chair looked like it was made by a person with downs. I tried with multiple different couches chairs and desks same shit every time. It failed to match the image and the construction failed me horribly. I didnt even get past to the part on cylinders because i failed so miserably at just basic shit like couches desks tables and chairs, felt like I couldnt even move to next chapter because of it.
The only way I can describe this feeling is suffocating.

>/dad/ thread promotes an entire different website
>advertisers shilling their tablet products
>coom arts everywhere
>/trad/ dying
happyboy post art review on art thread, woh that is wrong, reported.
I dont even intend to monetize that shit.

>>4945270
By your logic, the sticky promotes an entirely different website too

>>4945259
>>4945262
You’re over thinking it
Draw for the fun of it and you’ll get better in time. Video games let you get near instant gratification with little effort, making appealing art does not

I wanna shoot the bastard who invented homework and rape his wife over his corpse

>>4945291
Info cannot be monetize.
Youtube video that cannot be monetize.

/dad/ tracks and withhold personal data.

>>4945304
I honestly love this guy, he’s a massive meme and I hope he blows up just to spite /ic

>>4945312
I just might :D

>>4939986
Newfag to exercise. What exercises should I do to strengthen my back? I have fucked up posture and have a bad habit of getting my face closer to my screen tablet for details

>i spent 2 years building my IG with SFW art. over 900 posts. 180 followers.

>Started a pixiv 3 weeks ago. upload 12 coomer drawings. 107 followers.

Just draw coom.

why would i even bother drawing normie shit anymore? what's the fucknig point? why waste my time. i can probably charge for requests on pixiv now. some of my drawings have over 70 bookmarks/likes.

you just have to be really creative and then be good about how you tag your art and remember its a japanese website so figure out the translations if you dont know them. japs do not tag in english.

>>4945405
its so stupid to draw for fame dude
if you want real work get into actual illustration

>>4945405
What about twitter? Do you link your pixiv to it too? Does it feel good to have 107 followers? Do you think they care about you?

>>4945405
In the past I'd call bs on you but I'm following an incredible fucking artist who barely breaks 30 likes on each post. He has almost 90 posts up on his insta and uses hashtags extensively. It's absolutely mind boggling.

https://www.instagram.com/one_sketch_a_day_wen009/
Go follow him guys. He's amazing

>>4939704
The idea of having to make money with art just sucks all the joy out of it for me. Whenever I pick up the pen the thought of having to be good enough and having to appeal to the masses eventually drowns out my desire to create.
This is doubly stupid because i don't even have to do art as a job, I'm in education for something completely different. Seems like things are only valuable to me when they pay.
Recently I got back into art with streaming. And with how it's going I seem to have at least some charisma. But i can already feel the thoughts creeping back in of what I'd have to do to be successful.

>>4944771
Posts like this make me wonder how I'll feel when my estranged family dies. I guess I should start preparing for that.

Anyway, you have my condolences, anon. Family is tricky, you never truly know how you feel about them until something happens. Just take care of yourself.

I have a literal box full of blank fucking sketchbooks of every type, paper weight, shape, and size, but every single time I go to the art store I get one or two new ones. Am I retarded? I've seriously got like 30 blank books sitting around, completely unused.

>>4944957
oh man I know what you mean. got into uni for something I thought I cared about but learned all to quickly never try and make a career out of what you love - the constant soul crushing lectures and pointless memorizations that have left me dreading every time I get new work assigned. Now even the thought of something I once daydreamed about exhausts me.
And when I take something I admire like art I get frustrated because I can't realize any of the ideas I have and I learning is all the harder after the uni workload leaves me wanting to just be free for a damn minute. It's like the only happiness in my life comes from imagining doing all the things I want to do.

If you don't think about it so much it's not too bad. Things always seem worse when you think them over. We might do what we want but probably not, that shouldn't stop us from trying. There might be a road block 99/100 times but as long as the desire is still there it's worth seeing how far it'll take you. That's what I think at least

>>4945905
you're not retarded if you're going to draw in all of them someday anon. Think of it as investing in the future.

>>4944930
I don't feel like I am lol, but thank you. I appreciate that.

>>4945812
That's very kinda of you anon, thank you.

It's kinda a weird feeling at first but it gets easier to deal with in time. Just have to remind yourself that they're estranged by choice at least, so you've don't all that you can. I think everybody's got at least one family member they feel that ways about.

>>4945905
If you aren't filling those sketchbooks up with drawings then yeah, that's just mental illness.

>>4945905
send them to me please, I'm so fucking poor I can't afford drawing anymore

I've been watching plenty of lectures and I'm tired of hearing "once you get the construction right, shading is easy". Both are pretty hard, even when I get the construction right, getting this satisfying and nice rendering is so difficult. I get frustrated when I watch these good artists get it done and make it look so effortlessly, but I guess I should use that for motivation.

>alright let's block in the shadows
>looks decent enough, now on to halftones
>oh god why does it look so scratchy
>fuck I thought if you just imagined this a spherical shape it would look good
>fuck Huston you told me this was a boxy shape, why does it look so wrong when I do it?

>>4941184
I'm in a very similar situation.

I was on a streak of sleeping and waking up on time, and this weekend got all fucked up for no discernible reason. Been awake for 18 hrs straight, that’s not normal that’s not right. I didn’t sleep at all last night and now I have to be somewhere in 45 minutes. Deeply upset, I don’t know if there’s a god to blame but I’m angry because it’s not like I can do any good work while I’m tired. It’s just senselessly wasting a day, multiple days, my life. I will never get any of this back and I lost it for reasons I can’t ever know and that fucks me up. Trying to get good at a skill and make something happen with it while fighting my sleep schedule is like fighting the whole world and losing for all eternity. I’m so fucking cursed. I did everything right and I don’t deserve this. This is why Cain killed Abel.

>>4945905
I do that too, but just dedicate each one to a specific study and be specific

>>4945905
kek, I feel you, anon. I get so inspired whenever I see one, I can't help but get one and never use it afterwards.

Ears

>>4945405
Pixiv is much better than other sites if you draw anime. I have only 115 followers on Twitter but I have several thousand on pixiv. My pictures that get 2 likes on Twitter get around a thousand on pixiv. And it's not only coom, it's like that no matter what I draw. But coom is the most popular and I've seen popular com artists on Twitter show their pixiv stats and a lot of them have like 600k followers, which is more than pretty much every artist I've seen on twitter. There is just a much larger audience on pixiv for people who aren't blessed by the Twitter/IG algorithm.

>>4945905
I get you. I love the feel of a brand new sketchbook but too much of a pussy to draw on it. I have 4 blank A4 sketchbooks I guess this will probably take me 2 more years to fill in

>>4946841
Yeah, but isn't pixiv limited to the pixiv audience alone? Twitter can go global and trend to even people who aren't just looking for it because of the platform. In any case, I wonder how the follower to profit ratio there is on pixiv in comparison to Twitter. Although which popular artists post their pixiv stats? I have never seen that before, so 600k followers is a surprise.

>>4939704
might just join the army to finally be away from my shitty parents, i'd have to leave my younger sister though. still debating if its a good idea, 25M MOS (multimedia illustrator) seems pretty decent considering that there is transferable credit that comes with ROTC. any anons with this experience?

>>4945682
twitter is gay as hell. i dpont want twitter

I was told to PYW but I posted someone else’s and they never knew the difference. I’ve beaten the system. Bask in my glory.

It always surprises how a good manga lights a fire on my ass
Some of these works are unreal
Even if I never reach the same heights, I'll keep working for it

I draw requests in the /a/ threads and the /co/ drawthreads. It's literally free practice and there are some fun prompts there.

If I only drew when I got paid for it, I'd never improve.

Lonely, horny, etc.

>>4947315
Thank you kind drawing anon.

>>4945905

Im doing the #100 Heads Challenge to use up my new supplies.
Try taking on small art goals to get some use out of them.

>TFW got good

Some of you need discipline, some of you need Jesus.

All of you need to work harder.

>>4947515
pyw

>>4945262
>The chair looked like it was made by a person with downs
Maybe it was anon

There's someone that has been art mogging me right now but instead of feeling demoralized it's the exact opposite I hope they will notice me someday.

>>4947643
They won't

>>4947659
based crab

>"based crab"

>>4947672
There comes a certain point where you absolutely shit on everyone until you find that one you can't help but feel a form of companionship because they draw the same subject matters as you, is this what having an idol feels like?

4947684
If you @ me again them im going afk in spawn.

>>4947693
Is this Discord tranny speak for killing yourself? Be my guest.

4947702
It's Gamer speak for im gonna ignore your cringe posting starting now. The last thing you want to do is piss off a gamer, faggot.

>>4944957
Find a job that allows you to focus on your art maybe? I work as a psw on nogt shft, i get a good 4 hours to draw in peace.

>>4947643
I just try to be supportive

>>4947315
doing drawthreads feels soulless sometimes. Even if you enjoyed drawing the prompt, the requesters being ungrateful assholes takes the joy out of doing it

>>4947515
ya gonna make it son

>>4947643
post their work

>>4947693
>>4947659
>>4947693
>>4947659

>>4947872
Not going to post their work because then you faggots will know who their secret admirer is.

>>4939986
Hey anon. That's good. Keep going. You're pretty cool. The world is better with you in it.

>>4941085
If you put the same effort into your lines as you do into your doomposts, your sketch would actually look decent.
In short: Shut the fuck up zoomer faggot.

>>4941184
I would throw you out of my house at supersonic speed if I was your father. Fucking leech.

>>4943276
everyone mother dies eventually, anon. It sucks every time.

>been working on my rendering a lot
>today's fortune cookie: If the cake is bad, what good is the frosting?

Been super depressed and angry today. I just want to fucking draw but i can't because of the guilt i have towards school. I feel like no matter what i do i will fail and everyone sees me as a failure. I'm a socially inept retard who can't land a job to support myself when my parents kick me out of their house.
The only thing keeping me here is thing i love doing most, which is art.

>>4948014
I'm not talented and I'm still learning how to cope with that, a talented person would be doing so much better, 3 months
3 MONTHS

Dreamed with a dead relative some days ago and currently feeling like I don't fit anywhere. It's like having a war mentality in moments of peace or running while walking. I need to start training but it doesn't seem it will take my inheret violence away. Complete extermination and destruction of whatever this madness of what we call "world" seems to be the only way for me to finding peace, but instead of that I am just drawing. My worst sin is that I haven't read Loomis.

>>4948291
If a cake falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?

>>4948014
I PUT IN EFFORT YET IM STILL TRASH
3 MONTHS FOR THAT? AM I TALENTLESS?

>>4948682
You are talentless. Stop wasting your time and do something else, art is not for you.

>>4948697
i KNEW IT
not all birds can fly, chicks just fail to take to the skies and they die

>>4948699
At least you realized it soon and now you can move on to other things, good luck.

>>4948699
>99
>44
ill take this as a sign, a divine message sent to me
for accepting defeat with such grace

>>4948704
WHY?

I wish i can draw again without feeling extremely stressed out. I constantly get upset at my faults, hell i always believe a drawing will turn out garbage before i even lay down the first line.
I get stress out at the things I cant do or barely am able to do. I get mad at myself for taking too long or fucking up constantly when i should just get it right.
I get so angry and so spiteful towards my drawings and myself.
Then i just get extremely envious and jealous of other artists. And their usually not the top % according to this boards standards...
Watching them able to lay sketch things out so easily, come up with their own ideas, coloring, confidence in their own lines. When i watch others draw it seems almost magical. I cant understand anything at all. How did they do what they did from start to finish? I doubt i could understand.
I get so stressed out if im improving or not and i never think i have am or will. Anytime anyone said i was "good" or improving, i always thought of them as a liar trying to make me feel better.
This was the last thing i attempted to do about 2 months ago, for a friend that wanted me to draw again. I couldnt finish it because i felt so terrible about it, the anatomy is fucked so is the perspective the clothing, the legs, the hand, and so on. I cant say one single thing i find anything good about it, those issues are same in anything ive ever done...
Nowadays i get so anxious it wouldnt be far off to say i am pretty much terrified or too ashamed in myself to draw. I wish I knew what the hell to do anymore...

it's a "I have two nearly finished drawn figures except for their hands and feet which I haven't even started" episode

>do a commission of someone’s furry OC
>they post it and tag it “fanart”
Bitch I don’t give a FUCK about your hermaphrodite otter character. Don’t call me a fucking fan

I used to really like art of cute anime girls just being cute. Now I see that most of it is bad from a technical perspective and a lot of it is also quite soulless. It doesn't convey anything other than just "cute" or "lewd". Nice to look at, then forget about a few minutes later. It gets a lot of attention on social media, but I doubt anyone actually finds it memorable or life-changing. It's just so generic. I want to draw cute girls who aren't just cute or lewd and that's what I want to look at too. It sucks coming to dislike all this art I grew up with. Now, I can only be impressed by art with real character and soul. It doesn't matter what the technical skill level is. I want to see your unique ideas and feelings and how you express them.

How the fuck do you come up with outfits?

>>4949639
Reference. It's the magic pill to make your drawings instantly better.

>>4939704
hashtags dont seem to work for me at all. I get more likes drawing my own stuff.

I'm so tired of trying to appeal to the bipolarness of twitter. Everyday it's a new game or fandom that has taken over the masses. I just want to draw my own stuff but it never gets that many likes or retweets. I have to draw whatever game twitterweebs are raving about or else my stuff doesn't even get noticed.

It's all so tiring. I'm just tired.

>>4949552
>posting a drawing you did of someone else’s furry oc of all things for money
Kuk

>>4949661
Just become the trend setter.

Need to start making time before work to do everything good for me like cooking for myself, exercising, and drawing. Currently doing little to none of all of that and slowly losing my mind to the monotony of
>wake up hour before work
>work soulless drone job
>come home tired, demoralized
>heat up frozen no-cook meal
>game with friends till 3am
>go to bed
>wake up hour before work and repeat
Gonna be cutting out alot of friend time at night but alas such is life, can't have everything.

>>4949705
Keep the friends, drop the art. Please. Take it from me.

>>4949707
>Take it from me
You are no one, shut the fuck up

>>4946904
The army is kinda a mixed bag. Just if you do it WORK OUT. Like do not be lazy, you're body will give out if you're not atleast in shape by the time you get there. You do NOT want to get injured in basic training. Just work do a lot of high intensity workouts multiple times a week and make sure you eat right. Basic is the main hurdle though, once you get through that you're good. Also that mos will most likely land you in fort sill, so if you di enlist, try your best to plan around the weather. Drill sergeants there are assholes and dont care if you get frostbite during ftx (one of the guys in my platoon got it). Its gets really fucking cold in Oklahoma.

>>4949649
What do normal females wear?

>>4949730
I just rip off urban outfitters or fashion nova website lmao

I really wanna make it bros, I really do, but I don't feel like I can.
My anatomy is a fucking joke, my angles are pathetic, I chicken scratch, I feel like I don't know the basics yet I've been drawing for years, my friend commissioned me and I feel like I will do nothing but dissapoint, he gets shit ton of commissions from incredibly talented people I just cannot keep up.
I was feeling proud of an art today and then my pal showed me this super cool artist and then it hit me that I probably would never make it, I'm a joke at the only thing I'm supposed to be good at and I don't know what to do, I don't know how to cope, I don't know where to start or how to git gud, and getting depressed only makes my art look worse.
Doesn't help that my ADHD 3 IQ ass cannot learn by visuals alone, am I just doomed?

>>4949709
Drawing won't fill the hole, anon

Made about $1,000 in a day from three commissions.

>>4949747
>says I really wanna make it bros, I really do
>ends with am I just doomed?
You know what I think you are? A joke. Stick with your beliefs instead of trying to be in between. Believe your doomed or you're going to succeed. Not both.
>inb4 but but
Just tell yourself you won't make it and give up then so at least you and I can be in peace.

>>4949792
ok

>>4949661
Doesn't that just mean you're so shit that you're only value is following the trend? Like if I saw an artist and thought his colors were really good, i would look at the rest of his art to see if it's just that one piece or all of them. Sometimes though I'll find trending art where that only piece is their only thing that's good. For them, I assume it's luck.

>>4949792
During furry?

>>4949735
How far can I get from just drawing lolita dresses and nothing at all?

>>4947315
>/co/ drawthreads
I used to spend quite some time on /co/ drawthreads, but having fetish niggers show up and flood the thread requests with "can you do (girl here) but thicc/big feet/giantesshit", just to either A: get salty about muh tumblr puritans when nobody awnsers or B:>>4947315 , did it get any better?

i wish /ic/ didn't convince me , a middling /beg/, that drawing floating anime heads was a terrible, heinous crime against art. i have dont nothing but draw floating anime people, i have not left my "comfort zone" in weeks and i couldn't be happier. it gives me breathing room to think carefully about every facial feature, because im not trying to juggle 100 different thoughts that take place when attempting a dynamic drawing.

i would liken it to studying a math problem in a quiet room vs studying a math problem with doing a hula hoop and dribbling a basket ball. could i do that? maybe. but i'd rather take the quiet room.

>>4949841
No. Mostly tabletop and MMO avatars, with some occasional OCs and horror here and there. Farthest I go is pinups.

>>4949916
Pretty based

>>4949916
Horror?

>>4949747
PYW and we'll give it to you straight

>trying to resolve a clip studio paint error with celcys support
Jesus fucking christ. It's like writing to a computer that can generate english looking sentences but don't understand what they mean

>>4949747
Two episodes made me realize I would never make it. One was seeing the frontpage on ArtStation. Not because it's all way beyond my skill level, but because I hated every single piece, and the things I hated the most were the ones rated the highest. How am I supposed to make it if what people think is the absolute best of the best gives me nausea?

>>4939704
>Mfw for some reason Art-chan really hates me playing video games
>Mfw i tried playing some
>Mfw now she's all tsundere with me now and won't give me my art gains back
Why is Art-chan so jealous over VG-chan?Should i cling only to Art-Chan?

>>4941121
Condolences anon.Wish you the best.

>>4950097
wrong pic

>>4949707
>>4949758
It unironically did for me.
Friends are fickle but art is forever.

Ars longa, Vita brevis

>>4949707
>Drop art
No
Art-chan is cute when she's not full tsundere.

>>4949707
We still hang out on days off and talk at work, just not gonna be gaming till 4am lol
Not dropping friends, just dropping unhealthy habit that just happened to include them.

>>4950097
I love how horribly inappropriate this is

>>4950045
What's the problem?

>>4941085
>>4941088
>To add to this, Im fucking old
oh okay, how ol-
>Im 19 soon to be 20, neuroplasticity will go away
holy shit you're retarded

>>4949897
pfft, cant fuck a head.

>>4950186
Humanity now stops growing intellectually at the age of 12 so it makes sense that a 20 year old thinks he's decrepit.

>>4950185
It seems to be a bug. I discovered that high resolution paper textures display brighter with "overlay texture" than low resolution ones. The larger texture, the more bright it is.

>>4941065
at least sing a fuckin swan song tweety bird ass ninja

>>4941088
Shut the fuck up kid
I wish I could draw like that when I was your age
How about you get your head out of your ass and stop acting like a woman fishing for approval
Seriously if this is how you’re going to act I hope you kill yourself soon

>>4949726
thanks for the tips anon, i'm pretty sure that i'm fit enough since i heard from my recruiter that since i did wrestling it'll be pretty similar/easier

just curious, what mos did you choose?

>>4950191
You got it half right
But you don’t know shit about psychology
Read some Piaget

>better job opportunity
>secret NDA thing I cant say

Are things finally looking up for me? Did the gods answer my prayers?

>>4941085
Motherfucker I'm 30 and wish I could tell my stupid 20 year old self to not stop drawing. I've taken multiple breaks of multiple years, mostly due to uni/grad school/life. But goddamn do I wish I NEVER stopped making art regardless.

>>4950191
>>4941088
Go watch "Unsung Heroes of Illustration"
Half of them were born with a paint brush in their hand, but the other half were like workers/printers/soldiers until 40 before they STARTED drawing

>>4941088
If you ever need further proof that teenagers are absolutely retarded

>>4945405
I got almost 10K on Pixiv over 3 years but I don't post there anymore
Post on Twitter for half that time but only got 2K
Proof that Twitter is trash.

I feel like I need some kind of push to do the 100 hands challenge
Anyone actually do it? I draw every day for a year and 9 months now but havent done focused body part practice
Did you feel like it really helped?

>>4945405
>Just draw coom.
I know that for a porn artist this makes no sense, but... There are people who don't like drawing porn. Not even privately. Some people just like drawing other things, sometimes even more intimate than just sex.
I don't want to say you're a bad person for doing what makes you earn money/followers, or because you may happen to like drawing porn, but the thought that people today can't even understand why art other than porn might have some value, for a number of reasons, and someone who doesn't want to draw porn is "bigoted" or crippling himself with retarded mental gymnastics... I can't live with that. You don't know how many times I have been told
>Your art is fucking great, but you should draw some porn to get popular
>Just sex up your art and it'll work out
By porn guys who were disproportionately successful judging by the quality of their art. On one hand it burns like hell to "lose" to people who don't even understand why you wouldn't want to draw porn in the first place and think porn is the best thing since sliced bread, on the other hand when I make a detailed illustration I've made with sleepless nights and the distilled essence of my fucking soul and I get 2 likes and the disgusting looking futa porn uploaded right after gets 3000, all I can think is "I don't want to be here anymore". The likes don't mean much on their own, of course I don't care about a number, but they do mean a thing: that nobody is receptive to things I am trying to signal, but they are very receptive to things I find hideous. Why would I share art to people who absolutely love things I find disgusting and care nothing for what I find beautiful? And if I have no reason to do that, what is the point of making art at all? Who am I painting this for? My imagination is stronger than anyone's art. I can just close my eyes and daydream. I could just sleep instead. Why should I keep going?

>>4950656
pretty good series, thanks for the recommendation

>>4950750
Yeah, it really gets you to look at hands and makes you realize just how someone could spend their entire life studying one body part.

My PC keeps BSOD-ing. And it's my own damn fault due to being an idiot and not giving it the proper maintenance it needs. And to make it worse: I woke up unusually motivated today, but wasted it fixing my shit.

>>4941116
>Stop being autist/ic/ and just draw when you feel like drawing man, ffs.
Not him, but I needed exactly this.
Thank you, anon from like a week ago.

>>4941116
I needed this anon, thank you...

>>4950815
Guess I'll do it in a few days when i have time then. Drawing and trying to learn made me realize two very important things required for freedom of drawing characters
Learning perspective for foreshortening, and learning hands to be able to embrace gesture. Everything else can come naturally faster I think

>>4950767
I like looking at some coom art so I drew some, and though I had fun with it at first and got lots of attention for it, it eventually made me feel so dead inside. It's like being the artist version of a cheap whore. But whenever I posted sfw work, the coomer followers all ignored it. Felt like shit. I ended up not drawing for a while because it felt too stressful to have to draw something I didn't feel anything for. Then I realized I was free, and could make whatever I wanted. You really don't need to care about what others think or expect of you. Most people have shit taste. I also thought about the same things as you. Just draw for yourself because you believe in your vision of beauty and you won't need an audience. (Forget about beauty and standards if you actually want to make a living, though). However, I post online so I can keep a gallery and also in hopes of there being someone out there who might appreciate the same things I find beautiful. If they exist, nice. If not, oh well. My non-coom art eventually started getting more likes too, so I guess it's not all that bad.

I feel like I should add, I continue to draw erotic art from time to time, but only tasteful stuff that demonstrates the things I find beautiful about the human body and psyche. Sexuality is an important part of human life and can be used as a way to strip characters down to their core and reveal their deepest fears and hopes. Actual well written sex scenes are so much more interesting than generic titty monster #7388273. But cumbrains just want to fap, so that's what gets the most attention.

>>4950767
(Cont.)
I didn't really address the issue of what the whole point is if no one understands what you find beautiful, but this is something I read. Artists who create for the sake of beauty are creating art for God. Not a religious God or anything like that, but Beauty. Beauty is its own reward, and exists independent of whether it is observed by humans or not. That beauty is absolute. If you are someone enraptured by that beauty, then it will always be worth it to sacrifice your life for art.

>>4950841
You don’t want to be a cheap attention whore but you’re okay with posting like an attention whore saying you feel dead inside when you don’t get attention
Lol

>>4950873
Kill yourself.

>>4950898
Aw did I hurt the teenagers feelings? Cry over social media some more

>>4950767
>futa
>disgusting
gay faggot retard detected

>>4950907
Wasn't the anon your responding to but your in a vent thread, shitposting about someone blog posting. You are the definition of a dumb fuck nigger who thinks he's smart. Kill yourself.

>>4950967
Teenager still mad I see

>>4950968
If you wanted (You)s, all you needed to do was ask.

I'm never gonna to get into Calarts its been 4 years since high school and I'm still goddamn shit. What the fuck am I going to do there are 16-17 year olds I know who can draw me into the ground.

>>4946904
I mean you've got an advantage for doing wrestling but if you haven't kept up with it your gonna struggle, you need to be able to run too cause you will be running everywhere. Also honestly dont trust everything your recruiter says, they want you in and it's not above them to lie. They'll tell you it ain't true but they have quotas. Also I was a 35 fox (human intelligence analyst). Fort hwachuka is in the middle of no where, and if you don't have good study skills it really fucking sucks. Just make sure to watch videos on how to prepare for basic, and don't argue with your drill sergeant.

its much easier being a girl than guy in the art world

Women are fucking babies

men are treated unjustly and no one gives a shit

>>4950983
Man up and go somewhere else, if that doesn't work then go solo on social media and grab every crumb of knowledge you can catch for your gains to eat

I love mogging artists who are worse than me. There is nothing better than saying "I suck boohoo" while getting thousands upon thousands of retweets and people praising my art. I'm living Twitter life on EZ mode. Get fucked pleb artists. You'll never make it

>>4951508
The hell is a mogging artist.

>>4941164
>We are here for you
i dont mean to be an ass or to belittle anyone, im at risk of going through the same thing, in what ways can anonymous, or even not anonymous, internet people be there for me?

>>4951514
I think anon meant mocking. As in he jokes he sucks, but really he means everyone else sucks so they give him fake (you)'s for such a dumb joke.

hooker mode activated

>>4951657
To talk to, or listen to you so you don't feel alone? To talk on discord if you want a more personal relationship? What the fuck do you expect, a gofundme?

>just want to draw cute things
>post my drawings
>get endless criticism over how my work isn't interesting
>see other artists who post body horror, gore, baphomets, and demons
>people always asking them for blogs, commission info, praising their work (which admittedly often has technical/skill merit), etc
I'm willing to accept my art is subpar, or even below subpar. But I have to say I'm a little reluctant to accept criticism from people who clearly have their art tastes calibrated to a literal, unironic "satanic" setting

I went to 3d animation school and thought I was going places when I was 20. I was supposed to be somebody in the industry. That was 12 years ago.
I've spent the last 8 years doing odd jobs and drawing coom art. I don't really know how to feel, I've found that the coom art community is the most welcoming community I've ever been a part of. No job, school, or place of business has made me feel this sort of comradery among peers. Even worked on a very successful patreon pulling in 4000+ coomer bucks a month. But I still feel empty.
I would love an official position at a company doing comics or skullgirls graphics for a video game. But as I'm getting older, I feel like that feeling would just linger regardless of my position in life. I guess I'd just want to work an industry job just once to give myself closure.
Not sure if this is a vent, but I felt like saying this.

>>4951687
>What the fuck do you expect
i dont know. everything feels empty to me right now. forget i said anything.

>>4950750
pair it up with 100 cooms

The loneliness is suffocating. I’m helpless.

>>4939704
I enjoy drawing people suffering...

>>4951761
I also draw alot of vent art but rarely save any normally deleting them after I finish

>>4939704
I give up man, I fucking love art but fuck this shit, everything is too complicated

>>4951777
Congrats on finally being free my dude.

>>4951778
free from what

>>4951761
When I draw people teary eyed or upset, I find myself wincing in real life as I draw it, unconsciously

I would do anything to go on a date with Konsui, why is life so unfair bros?

>>4951713
Sorry, I responded harshly because I initially construed entitlement from your question, but upon reflection I realized it could've instead been desperation for help.

To suffer in silence will feed the emptiness inside you, sometimes having others simply know of your sufferings makes you feel less alone. If you don't have anyone you trust or feel comfortable to talk to, then look inward towards God and know that everything you are going through, He is watching and knowing. There's a reason for the consistent pattern of people turning to religion in their 30s, humans can't handle the traumas of life by themselves.

>>4951908
people who turn to religion are just too stupid to pick up philosophy

>>4951908
Good post.

>Push myself out of my comfort zone
>98% of the time is spent correcting mistakes or figuring shit out
>Been working steadily but at a shit ass pace on the same piece for about a month already
>Feels like other than a few tidibits here and there I havent learned much
>Since I dont have much free time all the time is dedicated to the piece and I havent been doing my regular practice
Everyone keeps saying you only have a number of bad drawings in you but I seem to be both an unlimited source ON TOP of being slow as shit. Coupled with my anti talent I might make it in 1000 years.

I realized I can't even make proper boxes.
I understand the 3d form of a regular box, but turning it seems to just turn my brain off at the same time, and it's so frustrating. It's probably due to a lack of experience, but I've gotten -ok- at photo studies so it's just frustrating to fuck up such a fundamental thing as drawing a box from imagination.
I think I desperately need to start studying perspective to fix this.

>>4951922
Not a matter of intelligence, plenty of idiots pick up philosophy then jerk themselves off about how God isn't real while living in depression. Plenty of intelligent people use spirituality to find peace and improve their quality of life. Religion's spirituality and philosophy's stoicism have a lot of overlap when it comes to helping the human psyche, but there are specific needs that can only be filled by one or the other.

>>4951922
>philosophy
i dont see much community available in philosophy.
dont get me wrong, churches and all that weird me out, but at least theres people there.

>>4948066
Luckily you’ll never be a father just like the rest of us faggot. Enjoy your power fantasies however, since you probably enjoy them more than you do drawing

>>4951830
might be my autism but my face tends to copy the emotion i'm drawing, feels like it helps me express the feeling better

>>4952127
Would you care to draw either of these faces for me?

>>4952049
I spent all day yesterday drawing boxes because apparently I forgot how to draw boxes correctly. Then I applied it to my head drawing and like magic my work improved. So always go back and do your practice swings.

>>4952035
It might benefit you more to do studies instead of that finished painting, of skill is what you’re after

>>4952098
>>4952071

>the furry community is right there
>they're smarter too
>how many powerful artists have come out of the furry fandom vs the jesus fandom?
>even furry music is better

after thinking about it, nothing quite has the transformative power of religion, for free anyways, even if it is at the cost of your capacity for thinking for yourself. which is something an artist should never lose.

but i guess my actual argument is a human being can overcome existential dread without the belief in a god.

and i don' agree with stoicism. an artist shouldn't be indifferent to injustice or beauty or their emotions. there's better beliefs: humanism, romanticism, absurdism... the things that teach you to get back up n' why.

im not too keen on fighting about whether god is real or not. its .. . more than that . . . and its not like i hate the bible or something. i just think people take religion too literal. i read this book called the bible as a dream by murray stein, its a really interesting interpretation of the bible. u can rly tell it was just some shit written by some wise old men , the original meaning of everything has been buried.

its more than just having people around... its about understanding your place in the world. why we feel the things we do, why things happen the way they do. learning how most people are just misguided . shit like that...

religion , at face value, teaches you to erase all doubt and just trust in something outside of yourself
but its not look towards god, its find god within
you are not overcoming this by yourself, because you are not alone in your struggle
im tellin ya, the ancient greeks figured this living shit out long ago


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>>4952134
i'm /beg/ with nonexistent fundamentals but thought it'd be fun to try

>>4952237
Thank you for the kind reply, I've been working on it today but I need to do it way more until I get to a point where I feel comfortable with it. Maybe in a few months I'll have made some good strides forward.

>>4939986
gib source anon

>>4952332
>teaches you to erase all doubt
i feel as though a good church would respect someone that doesnt completely abandon all free-thinking in how they choose to believe. you know, so long as theyre not openly telling others theyre dumb or something.
i cant see myself doing this unless i met someone that dragged me into it.
but my feelings on religion have become considerably less "edgy" over the past two years.

>>4952305
I still don't understand how you are supposed to study. Everytime I ask I get a completely different answer. Also since I have no one more proficient to guide me I have no idea if I'm actually reinforcing good or bad things.

>>4952332
>you are not overcoming this by yourself, because you are not alone in your struggle
You are objectively wrong

>job says $14/hr
>bait and switch the offer when calling me for 11/hr

Bitch I’m not working for less pay. Fuck outta here.

>>4952370
ideally yes, but realistically things like
is heaven literal?
is god REAL?
are things that are basically non-negotiable to most christians

of course, everyone will respect you so long as you don't share a view that defies the status quo. its a matter of whether or not you're okay with that

why not be ok with that? because christianity taken literally is hateful and judgemental. its cringe.
imagine feeling better than ppl who r literally just vibing bc you're a prude. like... no actual accomplishments, you get no pussy and you say its because g-god doesn't want you to have premarital sex. you deny yourself of the pleasures of life and talk shit about people who are literally just vibing because you're insecure. its cringggggggeeeeee.

christians are stagnated. need to evolve with the times. i think they'll be ok when all of the old ppl finally die out. they will write a Bible 2 and jesus will just be a waifu like hatsune miku.
but for now? same 3 fuckin songs. on christian tv all i see r the ads that r like "YOO U WANNA GO TO ISRAEL" (christian version of brazil) the dudes that r like "u need to empty ur cup to receive more wine <3. give me your whole wallet" they have so much power to educate and grow people and they just. don't. and the christians. they gobble it up. same old shit.

what does this have to do with the actual intelligence of the people? i dont even know anymore. where am i. wasted potential EVERYWHERE. AAAAAAAAAH


/blog

>>4952535
dead ppl who came before you have struggled with the same shit and have left you notes on how to deal with it
you are not alone, because you are part of the human experience
there is nothing but LIFE

>>4952127
I accidentally make coom faces when drawing porn.... hope no one sees me

Why is twitter such shithole? I'm getting 100-2k likes depending on what character I drew while I get the same amount of bookmarks on pixiv no matter what I draw

>>4951126
I'll definitely will be working out more and also doing more research on my own. I just took the PiCat yesterday and I'm able to pick whatever mos I want, just not sure if the 25M is a job that would be put to use. Thanks again for the advice, there's a high chance that I'll be joining by the end of this school year.

Working a shitty retail job that makes me want to kill myself every single day because I didn’t get a job out of university. Too exhausted to work on my art passion when I get home. Don’t really have friends. Too depressed to care anymore. I see people from my art college class getting what would have been my dream jobs and I feel like my soul breaks with every one I see. I am happy for them but I am just so disappointed with how I turned out. A worthless parasite.

I am a dumb autist and a failure and I welcome death at this point. What a complete and utter waste of life I am

>>4952861
Anon, I wish you the best. From a fellow autist.

i go through some major fits of feeling like i'm improving and then something just hits me that i'm not good enough. whats wrong with me

I feel like I'm coming into drawing too late. Not because of age or anything, but because I missed the years at uni where I would have like 4-5 days a week free with nothing I needed do to at all. Now I'm only drawing for an hour or two after work, and having to share my leisure and gym time with art mean that it's hard for me to do big stretches of practice. I'm not really doing any long periods of studies or filling pages, I'm just doing a page of exercises from whatever book I'm going through and a single drawing for fun a day, and it feels like it's going to be painfully slow to get anywhere like this.

>>4951663
this is a mog

honestly i feel as if i could be a professional in a month and i'd still feel like i'm progressing to slow

>>4952369
looks like fat elf