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5007743 No.5007743 [Reply] [Original]

Commission Price Check thread!
Price other's fucking work when you post your own edition

Want to start doing commissions? Have no idea where to even start with pricing them? This is the thread for you to get opinions from other anons on pricing.

When you pyw price at least 3 other works from the thread. Let's not make this a useless shithole like last time.

>> No.5007744

>>5007743
>Let's not make this a useless shithole like last time.
It wasn't though?

>> No.5007747

>>5007744
There were a lot of comms that got no actual prices or just 1 while great art got many. Even if it is not amazing or grabbing art even someone saying it is worth $5 and they are not ready to start comms is helpful.

>> No.5007750

>>5007290
What would people pay for a Zenigata like this? Especially if I fixed my perspective and had planned out my composition. I hate shading and like flat colors.

>> No.5007761

COOMMISSION

>> No.5007764

>>5007743
I remember BBCchan doing a very good tumblr post on self promotion and stuff like that. Anyone got it somewhere?

>> No.5007772
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5007772

How much would sketches like this be worth? I can do booba out too

>>5007750
It is hard to price something off of a concept when it's not clear what the execution will be like
As is this might be worth $20-$25

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5007796

>>5007743
oh i tried studying that a month ago

>> No.5007879

>>5007772
$65-$80, if it wasn't colored it would be around $50. Also is that actually your artwork, or we can't actually tell the price around it.

>> No.5007885

>>5007772
$3.1416

>> No.5007925
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5007925

How much for something like this
And is there a way I can add more appeal to my sketches?

>>5007750
Hmm maybe $15-$20 as-is. Post again once you make better composition

>>5007772
$30-$35

>> No.5008138

>>5007743
I'd give yall 0 cuz you coomfags so worthless

>> No.5008174

>>5007743
We really need two threads where dumb /beg/s assign prices based on literally nothing?
Can you not just do the fucking math?

>> No.5008176
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5008176

ITT: artists fear basic arithmetic and treat prices like a creative outlet

>> No.5008181
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>>5008176
>not ignoring basic arithmetic and selling art for less than 800k
NGMI

>> No.5008183

>>5008181
'less than'?
And this is a thread about commission, not art sales, which is an entirely different subject.

>> No.5008193

>>5007772
Cheelai is such a shitty character, basically green ugly Bulma.

>> No.5008201

>>5008183
Just make art for millionaire people, contact goes a long way to get commission for a lot of money and yes less than

>> No.5008205

>>5007743
>>5007796
Full pic (source) please

>> No.5008212

>>5008201
Not very good at English, are you?

>> No.5008232

>>5007764
i had this opened on another tab for ages but i can't find it
i want it too

>> No.5008238

>>5008212
are you?

>> No.5008242

>>5008238
Yes, I am. I am a native English speaker, unlike you.

>> No.5008246

>>5008212
You didn't specify what formula you would use for pricing commissions so I assumed it would be something like work hour * minimum wage * 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 depending on your skill + material cost
Now, using that you wouldn't get to millions unless you added $ based on literally nothing other than you know you can sell for it therefore just ignore basic arithmetic and put your work above the one million mark

>> No.5008249

>>5008212
There is nothing wrong with "less than" in that sentence

>> No.5008275

>>5008249
Other than the fact that it communicates nothing? $5, for example, is less than $800,000. In terms of money, an upper limit is meaningless without also specifying a lower limit. If he/you had said "more than 800k", then it would imply a large amount of money, whereas "less than 800k" implies nothing at all.

You are also assuming that was the reason I was pointing out his/your poor English skills, not the broken English in the post I was replying to.

>>5008246
What does that have to do with my question?

>minimum wage * 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5 depending on your skill
What the fuck are you talking about?

>> No.5008281

>>5007743
How do make anonymous transactions? And if that's not possible how do you avoid getting doxxed?

>> No.5008282

>>5008275
not ignoring basic arithmetic and selling art for less than 800k
ignoring basic arithmetic and selling art for more than 800k
You want the later
I don't know, you never specified the formula you use for your commission rate, I can only guess

>> No.5008284

>>5008282
>tt*

>> No.5008287

>>5008282
Learn English.

>> No.5008290

>>5008287
Already did, you were the one who misread it

>> No.5008299

>>5008290
Dumb ESL.

>> No.5008303

>>5008299
Using your secret arithmetic won't put your work above 800k, keep living under there pleb

>> No.5008313

>>5008303
Nobody is talking about that, dumbfuck.

>> No.5008318

>>5008313
>nobody is talking about that
>artists fear basic arithmetic and treat prices like a creative outlet
Mr Nobody was

>> No.5008319

>>5008174
The other one is in autosage dumbass.

>> No.5008336

>>5008318
Moron.

>> No.5008340

>>5008319
This is /ic/, a thread can stay active in autosage for weeks.

>> No.5008343

>>5008336
Our education failed you, I'm sorry. Maybe big B. can fix the education for the next generation

>> No.5008348

>>5008340
It is literally on page 9 and is going to die in a couple hours

>> No.5008351

>>5008348
Then you can wait a couple hours to make another thread, can't you?

>> No.5008475
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5008475

I was trying to copy a persona 5 character, lets say this was a full body nsfw, how much could I get?

>> No.5008480

>>5007925
I'd fork over 20-30 dollars, if you drew my favorite characters, but i've never bought commissions before so idk

>> No.5008482

>>5008475
if i was a onlyfans thot and needed an avatar i would give 10% of my income, whatever that may be, so assuming i get 2k from only fans, easy 200$ for u

>> No.5008522
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5008522

I-I'm not gonna price others' because I already know I'm terrible at it

>> No.5008558

Do the math, retards.

>> No.5008571

>>5008558
art + 120$ = 120.00$

>> No.5008585
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>>5008558
> 1 hour of work $500
> my art style $2,000
Wow thank you my art is worth $2,500 per sketch now

>> No.5008591
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5008591

>>5008558
>t.

>> No.5008610

>>5008571
>>5008585
>>5008591
Retards.

>> No.5008613

>>5008610
>needs to call everyone retard to make a point
this is 18+ only board kid

>> No.5008615
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>>5008176
Welcome to commission price check general where the dollars are made up and the opinions don't matter.

>> No.5008623

>>5008613
Then learn how jobs work, dumbfuck.
You don't just do an undefined amount of work and then get paid some arbitrary amount of money.
If you don't understand that, then yes, you are a fucking retard.

>> No.5008626

>>5008615
This is it exactly.

>> No.5008631

tfw i trace and get paid 180$ for 2-3 hours of work, double if two characters fucking each other, i don't even care anymore about my morals, rich guys most certainly dont

>> No.5008651

>>5008631
RPing faggot.

>> No.5008716

So everyone here is a coomfag

>> No.5008720

>>5008716
you can post any kind of art you want honey :)

>> No.5008726
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>>5008631
Even with tracing, good lineart+any appealing coloring worth $180 would take longer than that. You can't fake good lines and coloring
RP harder

>> No.5008729

>>5008716

>>5007750
And
>>5008522
Didn't post even remotely sexual art

>> No.5008746

>>5008726
use the original lineart and color, change hair, maybe clothes (i try to avoid clothes) and face only if client specify some expression. as for the pose i send them 10~20 already traced "sketches", if it's not a new pose i never done before, with the pose with different and camer angles and slight different positions for them to think i'm good enough so that they pay me 1/2 right after it, for that i usually send the sketches after 5-6 hours or the next day depending when i say i will "start working". tracing from images that you can replicate the style is a no brainer the same goes for keeping the images that are similar in style separated by accounts

>> No.5008770

>>5008716
Kill yourself Discord tranny.

>> No.5008774

>>5008746
Okay so why are you telling us your master plan that apparently works so well and sabotaging your business? This definitely sounds like some deranged jaded artist RPing as a successful coomer artist out of jealousy.

>> No.5008793

>>5008774
because u can't sabotage it, u never seen my art linked with those posts, and i lost some accounts for being found out, learned from it and took measures to have some accounts if i lose any again i can create a new one and start linking the new one to the old alive ones to get new followers fast, so losing 1-2 accounts won't affect me as much, and if you think this is not common, you would be surprised when someone gets found and some tracers will pm you asking if you need help getting followers for a new acc if you happened to be good friends with them, that's how i kept into it, unless you're a retard *cough* shex- *cough* it's really hard for you to get shutdown completely and even then you won't lose everyone

>> No.5008798

>>5008793
How many comms do you get per month?

>> No.5008801

>>5007743
>63 posts
>25 posters
what the fuck is going on here?

>> No.5008806

>>5008798
0~4 depending on the account, i won't say how many accounts i run because i don't want to run the risk of one of the accounts being found and you /ic/ go after every other suspicious account, so imagine it's 3 accounts

>> No.5008809

>>5008806
Its fine, thanks anon

>> No.5008814

>>5008801
Noone is posting any art and asking for prices because they are too selfish to give the minimum effort to price a couple other people.
So instead of actually posting art to price it just devolved into a mindless general arguing about art commissions thread.

>> No.5008833

>>5008806
Another thing, you don't need to answer if you don't want to. Do you have any way to remain anonymous with payment or just use paypal?

>> No.5008842

>>5008833
you can use websites like artist&client, the client pays to your account using their system, then the system sends the accumulated money whenever you want to your paypal account. they work as middleman

>> No.5008852 [DELETED] 

>>5008833
or, and hear me out here, maybe people who incapable of determining the value of their own work are not capable of putting a price on others’?
if you can see other artists’ work and determine their market value, what exactly would be stopping you to do the same for your own?
the only thing you can achieve by guessing is establishing a skewed value pattern in the thread, leading people to price your work based on the possibly retarded prices you helped establish

>> No.5008854

>>5008833
or, and hear me out here, maybe people who incapable of determining the value of their own work are not capable of putting a price on others’?
if you can see other artists’ work and determine their market value, what exactly would be stopping you to do the same for your own?
the only thing you can achieve by guessing is establishing a skewed value pattern in the thread, leading people to price your work based on the possibly retarded prices you helped establish

>> No.5008871
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5008871

I'm afraid to post my art and how much I charge in case I offend someone with my prices, I'm sorry. But here goes. I charge $60 for stuff like this. My commissioners think it's fair but if you guys think there's something I can do if it's not worth that price tag let me know.
>>5007925
Your style is very 80's or 90's, I'd say add thicker lines and some cheap post production cheese to make it look retro and you can find people who will commission you for well over $50 a piece.
>>5007772
You remind me of farfin but with coomier proportions, I'm sure you can sell your art for $30 or $40. The shaking lines look off, I'd say redo them with the same brush, make them more subtle or remove them altogether.
>>5008522
This is a lot like official pokemon art. I don't know if you're shading with black but you can make it much more appealing if you apply color theory for the shadows. I don't know if I can price it though.

>> No.5008939

ITT: established artists and crabs pretending to be artists tricking begs into pricing themselves out of the market.

>> No.5008941

>>5008939
Give us your prices anon

>> No.5008945

>>5008939
How much art have you been selling?

>> No.5008947

>ITT: Larping poorfags and begtards
Instead of playing pretend why don't you either actually commission someone at a realistic price or throw yourself out there and be a coom drawing slut.

>> No.5008955

I have been working on a game and need decent-to-high quality art.
Where do you go to hire artists?
I have tried various subreddits like hungryartists and the portfolio's people send me are mostly garbage.

>> No.5008958

Well this thread is going swimmingly

>> No.5008960

>>5008871
H! I gave you comments about this drawing. Looks great! I have a question, what is the best place where one can sell drawings like these, offer commission services? Even pornographic stuff?

>> No.5008961

>>5008955
Find one here >>5003361

Or go to twitter and artstation

>> No.5008977

>>5008960
You can't really ask me about that, most of my commissions are from Discord friends and a guy that saw my artwork on reddit. I suppose reddit and twitter are good starts. Maybe Instagram too but I hate IG.

>> No.5008996

>>5008205
not them but here you go
https://twitter.com/MoriawaseB/status/1312057157420904448

>> No.5009002
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>>5008480
Thank you for the price! Honestly I didn't know where to start so I appreciate it

>>5008871
$60 seems good! I love the posing. I am not sure what the faces look like without all the shading but it could maybe be more.

Should I thicken all the lines or just some of them? I feel like when I tried line weight I failed at making it look decent/better than thinner lines, and wasn't sure how to incorporate it in my more polished drawings like pic related.

>> No.5009008

>>5009002
Cute 90$

>> No.5009009

>>5008941
>>5008945
I was just shitposting. Carry on.

>> No.5009027

>>5009009
lol I actually wanted to know your prices

>> No.5009038

>>5009009
No you weren't, you obviously are a pro

>> No.5009053

>>5008871
>This is a lot like official pokemon art.
Thanks, I don't know about that!!
And I don't shade with black, but I do always under-saturate my pieces and keep having to bump it up, I'm not sure why.

>>5008729
actually I do also draw porn,

>> No.5009056

>>5009027
Nah, I have no prices since I don't sell nor do I buy art. I just draw as a hobby.

>> No.5009060

>>5009038
lmao, no I am not. seriously. I just draw as a hobby. Don't mind me, anon.

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>>5009053
Yeah it reminds me of stuff like Sun and Moon's character art. Maybe it's a weirdly calibrated monitor or something? You can try checking your art in other screens. Anyway shadows don't necessarily have to be a darker shade of the color, you can experiment with other color temperatures. The result will make the art more vibrant.

also FUCK CAPTCHAS

>> No.5009340

>>5008960
right, i see, thanks

>> No.5009430

>>5007925
>>5009002
Blog? (Please tell me you have something beside a twitter page)

>> No.5009436

>>5008996
Thanks!

>> No.5009442

>>5009002
If you can make good CUNNY art, you can make a big amount of usd drawing that shit

>> No.5009723

>>5007743

what skill level is necessary for cheap commissions? like a grade above /beg/?

>> No.5010149
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>> No.5010151

>>5010149
Nice coom

>> No.5010167

How much do you guys make per month of your commissions?

>> No.5010172
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>>5007764
>>5008232

>> No.5010187

>>5010172
Make accounts to look like it's from a fem
Comment on other people's art, no matter if they are beg or not
(Fake) Giveaways
Fake sad stories of your life
Make tutorials for begs for free
Fake you're going to some country, like Japan, and do some art related to that
Draw pose references
Create contests
Be liberal

>> No.5010192

>>5010187
>be liberal
NOOOOOO I DONT WANT TO BE LIBERAL IM A MILQUE TOAST FENCE SHITTER

>> No.5010194

The more I stay here the more it makes me think artists on twitter are all liars and tracers, is reality that grim?

>> No.5010204

>>5010194
No. There are just a lot of bitter anons who feel that way but there are plenty of artists who just do their thing. I am friends with 2 people that have tens of thousands of followers and just do whatever they would normally do and shit talk about seasonal anime and post on Twitter and I have seen them draw non-traced works with my own eyes and they make a living off it.

There are alllllways going to me some very manipulative shitty people artists and some people tracing stuff but that doesn't mean all of them do just because every so often someone big is caught doing it.

>> No.5010232

>>5009723
Depends on how well you render

>> No.5010331

>>5008806
So you roll 0-12 commissions per month.
6 commission every month on average it's not a masterplan

>> No.5010357
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>> No.5010370

>>5010357
Slave labor.

>> No.5010372

>>5010357
does that say

$2

>> No.5010375

>>5010372
>full lineart no color
>$2
Yes
Fucking faggot should’ve raised his price

>> No.5010383

>>5010372
>>5010375
Its competitive pricing though.

>> No.5010384

>>5010331
I don't think he would have only 3 accounts considering what he said about /ic/ hunting the accounts down, he could have downplayed the numbers, but I don't know

>> No.5010390

>>5010357
Is he from a 3rd world country or what?
I've seen shit tier art sold for a higher price on twitter
Have some self respect anon

>> No.5010396

>>5010390
I live in the third world but even I would’ve price 6-10 times more than what he’s doing.

>> No.5010399

>>5010396
Same here

>> No.5010419

>>5010390
How much would you price his garbage then.

>> No.5010438

>>5010399
same

>> No.5010441

>>5010419
6 for Lines
14 Colored
20 Shaded

>> No.5010444

>>5010441
THIS
He could be getting so much more while still pricing extremely competitively and affordably.

>> No.5010446

>>5010441
https://art.ngfiles.com/images/605000/605165_xpheretv_shadman.gif

>> No.5010453

>>5010441
>>5010444
Fucking morons.

>> No.5010465

>>5010453
?

>> No.5010494

>>5010446
reminder chadman charged $400 for commissions and even at that price he decided it wasn’t worth drawing for other people
all without patreon, just selling his merch

>> No.5010924
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5010924

Hey
what do you think would be a good price?

>> No.5011127

How good do you have to be to get $300 a piece?

>> No.5011139

>>5010924
About 45 dollars

>> No.5011320
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5011320

i'm not planning on doing commissions yet because i'm still slow as fuck, but what would this be worth? i have about 50 followers if that's important

>> No.5011463

>>5009723
there isn't a defined point. the more skill the higher is the demand and lower is the supply.

>> No.5011482

>>5011139
Oh, this is a good reference for me. Thanks

>> No.5011490

>>5010357
>$2
shit, just the time that he spend talking to the customer already make it way below minimum wage.

>> No.5013407
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5013407

I have no idea what to charge or how it works. I'm going to open up qcsubscribestar account once I get enough social media followers, but I pretty much just took screenshots of the top artists on there to see how pricing should work.

>> No.5013676

>>5011320
nice merc_wip

>> No.5014910

>>5011320
Figure alone maybe 20-25?
Bgs might bump up the price but the overall pic still looks a bit /beg/. I really like it tho.
I'd keep practicing, if you want to do commissions fast focus on faces and simple clean shading to drive up appeal while continuing putting out stuff to grow your followers.

>> No.5015284
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5015284

Here's one that I'm proud of

>> No.5015374
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5015374

Did this for $20

>> No.5017098

Bros, when am I ready to start commissions? What's the best place for reaching an audience? Should I start just drawing furry porn? Fuck, I think I'm headed there already.

>> No.5017281

>>5017098
pyw and we'll know how to answer your question

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5017542

Boys, am I over charging?

>> No.5017548

>>5017542
No. Most everyone else is undercharging, across the board. My issue with this is that it's not clear at all what each tier actually entails. Simple & Complex examples look the exact same (Simple arguably looks more 'complex' than Complex) does. What does "Conceptual" even mean?

People will have no idea what they're commissioning based off this current chart.

>> No.5017551

>>5017542
I think this is perfectly fine price-wise. Maybe complex should be $350 because I don't see too much difference between that and simple given your examples

Maybe give a brief description of what "conceptual" means. From that image I am guessing it means you can add complex props/bg and that it is more poster-like quality.

>> No.5017552

>>5017542
gotta pay for your meds somehow

>> No.5017554

>>5017542
well, are you getting work?
>>5017548
also, this
the only thing I can assume is that simple = animu/cartoon/heavily simplified stylisation and complex = realism
maybe put an example with better lighting for complex, right now it looks very “airbrush on side of a van”
no clue what conceptual is supposed to be

>> No.5017575

>>5017548
I think the difference between simple and complex is the background + the layers of shit flying around.

Conceptual art means it is supported by concept art. For example, that art is about the Greek Goddess Hera, so within the painting itself has various symbols that are associated to her mythology.

>> No.5017579

>>5017554
I am getting some coom art right after i started sharing my coommission sheet. So I decided to create a non-coom 1 just to see if there is any takers.

>> No.5017583

>>5017575
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conceptual_art

>> No.5017600

>>5017583
I know conceptual art in fine arts term, but i am just talking about mine. :)

>> No.5017609

>>5017600
yeah, and I’m telling you you can’t just use established conventions and decide they mean something else and expect your customers to know what that means inside your head nor for them to bother figuring out instead of just moving to a non-retarded alternative

>> No.5017624

>>5007772
I'd pay $15-$20 for this. Though I expect something like a character profile, with a front view (colored) and a few other poses with it, not colored like how they do those character sheets? I can see it being $20-35 if you do that though but I have to see it to judge it.
>>5007925
$20 colors are a bit weird.
>>5008475
Depends on how you can do on regular poses or something you don't have a normal reference to, $20-30
>>5008522
If this is your work? $35-50 because of the background.
>>5008871
$25-$35
>>5009002
$25
>>5010149
Person: $35-40 w/background: $45-60
>>5010924
Person : $35-$40 w/background: $40-$50
>>5011320
Person: $25-35 w/background: $35-$50 especially if it's even a larger background.
>>5013407
This is your work?
>>5015284
$5 +tip if it's funny
>>5015374
$10-$15
I think I can only price what I would be willing to pay so take it with a grain of salt. Since work like >>5017542 is beyond my budget and therefore my comprehension.

>> No.5017651
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5017651

just out of curiosity, I am not ready yet for commissions cause I need to refine my style and skill so that it's more clean

>> No.5017730

>>5017609
Should i just use the word Concept Then? Because concept art < digital means.

>> No.5017742

>>5017609
Thanks man i will change it to concept, when i change prices in a few days time. Concept is more accurate word.

>> No.5017752

>>5017624
Third worlder or just trolling? These prices are way too fucking low.

>> No.5017782

>>5017752
>be third worlder
>charge "american" prices for my work
>feel guilty because i feel like i'm overcharging
>get actually a few commissions right away, friends suggest i'm even undercharging
the different value money has in better countries is pretty insane and contributes to the undervaluation of online art we see all the time
personally i also blame deviantart kids getting paid in shitty deviantart points or $5-$10 for fully rendered original designs, thanks to those prices art is worthless to the average person
there was a post in a previous thread saying that the starving artist stereotype is perpetuated by artists

>> No.5017783

>>5017752
I guess some people pay for low art... and then some people are so cheap and living in third world to make a living with that type of prices...

>> No.5017855

>>5017782
Sh*dman himself said that he thinks all art should be free so the self perpetuated starving isn't too far from the truth

>> No.5017867

>>5017855
If art should be free, we are all fucked because creating art cost a lot of money. The tablet needs money. Traditional art material needs money.

Art can never be free, because if it is free, we are all doomed to patronage. Remember Van Gogh? Dude died poor with mental illness, sold only 1 painting. And never reach glory. Now his shit is millions of dollars. His starry eyes must be crying and spiraling in his grave.

>> No.5017878

>>5017855
Shad literally earns a living from selling prints, so I doubt you’re relating his words in good faith

>> No.5017883

>>5017730
>>5017742
If you do, make sure to include the design charts or whatever “concept art” means to you, so the customer knows what they’re paying. Regardless of the naming, right now it just looks like throw in some random additional elements with a higher polish

>> No.5017901

>>5017752
Then I guess I got ripped off cause the art I got for $20 was worse than everything I listed.

>> No.5017988

>>5017855
Saying art should be free isn't the same as saying artists shouldn't get paid, retard.

>> No.5018211

>>5017988
Where do we get income if not from creating and selling art then? Government gibs? Or are we meant to sell our art through non digital means like prints and stickers?
Adobe pays graphic designers thousands for 3D renders so it's not really feasible for every kind of artist.

>> No.5018626

>>5018211
Jesus Christ you're stupid.
If art is AVAILABLE for free, it does not mean there aren't ways to make money with art.
Commission, one of the most popular ways of making money from art, would be completely unaffected. Commission means paying for labor.
Selling prints and originals would also be completely unaffected. Buying art objects means paying for a limited physical good.
You can even still continue to sell digital files and packs of files, and people will still buy them if the service to get the file(s) is convenient. Being transferred a specific file or group of files on request means paying for a service of convenience.

>Adobe pays graphic designers thousands for 3D renders so it's not really feasible for every kind of artist.
And they still could, because that's commission.

Do you comprehend yet? I doubt it.

>> No.5018854
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>>5017624
Definitely some really strange takes

>> No.5019570

>>5017281
I'd get banned if I posted.

>> No.5019575
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5019575

Asking for a fren.

>> No.5019581

>>5019575
Based sakimi fan

>> No.5019612

>>5019575
damn i love cooming

>> No.5019643
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5019643

how much would this be?

>> No.5019654

>>5019643
i have a feeling that you trace

>> No.5019657

>people are still posting their art asking what they should charge
Fucking retards.

>> No.5019673 [DELETED] 

>>5019657
I didn't post in this thread hoping it would die but here we are.
I want to just make a new thread where I don't ask the artists to price eachother because it only resulted in a much slower, equally unproductive thread.

>> No.5019676

>>5019657
I didn't post in this thread for a few days hoping it would die but here we are.
I want to just make a new thread where I don't ask the artists to price eachother because it only resulted in a much slower, equally unproductive thread.

>> No.5019677

>>5019673
Try not putting coomershit in the OP.

>> No.5019697

>>5019677
B-but I want the thread to get attention

I will un-coom the next thread a week after this one dies but I doubt it will go much better

>> No.5020454
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5020454

Please value my work, /ic/

I want to know how much would you pay for something like this
From 1 to 4 is where more time was put into it

(4 is not really my style, I was asked to do it for a collab, but I enjoy the process anyway)

>> No.5020471

>>5020454
Same anon, here I will price others and make a small comment
For my case I don't know how much to charge for my art, so I don't know what to tell others.
Everyone that's here wants to know, so why would you ask them if they don't know in the first place?

>>5019643
Looks real nice! 18 USD

>>5007772
I would say 25, but other anons said 30 or more

>>5008475
20 USD

>> No.5020486

>>5020471
>I don't know how much to charge for my art, so I don't know what to tell others.
>18
>25
>20
Yeah no kidding.

>> No.5020524

>>5020486
I know right? I don't have any idea of how should I charge, that's why I'm here, to learn
But they also ask me to tell others how much should they charge, which is dumb, I think

>> No.5020532

>>5020471
Based lowballer anon

>> No.5020546 [DELETED] 

>>5020524
>But they also ask me to tell others how much should they charge, which is dumb, I think
OP here in >>5019676
I kind of realized that. Since I am better at appraising other's art prices than my own I thought most people were probably that way. Next thread I won't ask

Thanks for contributing by replying with prices anyways though in >>5020471

As for your post asking for prices,
1 would be $3, 2 would be $40ish, 3 would be $65, 4 if I could see the front it could help because how the face looks in that style is important, but $70-$75?

>> No.5020552

>>5020524 #
>But they also ask me to tell others how much should they charge, which is dumb, I think
OP here in >>5019676 #
I kind of realized that. Since I am better at appraising other's art prices than my own I thought most people were probably that way. Next thread I won't ask

Thanks for contributing by replying with prices anyways though in >>5020471 #

As for your post asking for prices,
1 would be $30, 2 would be $40ish, 3 would be $65, 4 if I could see the front it could help because how the face looks in that rendering style is important, but $70-$75?

>> No.5020566
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5020566

How much would you pay for art like this? I've been lowballing my art for quite some time now but I'd like to get some feedback

>> No.5020569

>>5020566
You have anything appealing?

>> No.5020577

>>5019654
Not him but what makes you think that?

>> No.5020583

>>5019575
my god, nothing makes sense on this drawing. HAHAHAHAHA

>> No.5020585

>>5020566
$40
I get the feeling that if you worked on your art a little more you could make it look really good but you stop just before that point.

>> No.5020588

>>5020583
lmfao look at this seething crab.

the art looks great what are you even saying.

>> No.5020601

>>5020588
It's so bad that I can't even red line it. It's a worthless piece of junk to be honest. So many dumb mistakes that makes me wonder what goes on anons brain.

>> No.5020623

>>5020601
>snibbety sneb

youre just trying to attack his self esteem because you probably suck.

>> No.5020631

>>5020623
go on that way, it's just a funny wonky piece.
If it's yours stop being a smooth brain, go study anatomy or at least trace.

>> No.5020678
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5020678

How much should I be charging for something like this? I did 4 version, clean, saliva (this one) cum, and both

>> No.5020687

>>5019643
>putting name right over the art like someone will steal it

>> No.5020697

>>5017651
I don't know if you're ready for commissions yet

it looks like you spent a lot of time on these but i couldn't imagine paying anywhere near that amount for this (not saying it's bad) composition needs some work and they feel flat

>> No.5020701

>>5010149
good stuff, probably 100

>> No.5020791

>>5020678
bout tree fiddy

>> No.5021093
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5021093

I'm not sure if this is the right place for this. Someone is interested in a commission from me and I've set the price at $90 but they also want to buy the rights to the image and I have no idea what kind of a price to put on that. I've googled the hell out of this and all the answers I get are useless, I don't even have a ballpark figure. Does anyone have an idea how much to charge ideally as a flat rate percentage of the $90 I was going to charge for just a regular commission?

>> No.5021163
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5021163

10min Half assed piece, how much approx.?

>> No.5021170

>>5021163
if you fixed the fucked up anatomy id pay nothing for it still

>> No.5021183

>>5021170
B-but sempai

>> No.5021194

>>5021163
At minimum wage it would be $1.20, but even that is too much.

>> No.5021209

>>5021093
By the "rights" do you mean for commercial use? Or something else?

>> No.5021218

>>5021209
yes, commercial use, he's a writter but hasn't gone into exactly how he's going to use it

>> No.5021239

>>5021218
Commercial use should cost at least double, and I always go for a small royalty as well. Royalties can really add up even at a low percentage.
If you are not sure that his book will sell well I would go with a higher up front cost with a smaller royalty, such as $250 with a 5% royalty. If the royalty amount is questioned it should be pre-tax (ex: For every $20 book sold you get $1)

>> No.5021256

>>5020454
post the Tenshi pic

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>>5021256
here

>> No.5021273

>>5021239
lmao who the fuck is going to give royalties for a single image in a book, are you retarded?

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5021283

>>5021261
Thanks, that's gorgeous. I've wanted to do something similar but I cannot paint to save my life.

>> No.5021298

>>5021239
Thank you, do you mean you wold charge $90 + $250 or $250 total?

>> No.5021321

>>5021273
I get royalties for prints of a poster I made for a local music artist and off of shirts and tote bags from a store, I don't see why a book would be any different. It is still something that is using your art to directly profit for themselves and 5% is an extremely reasonable royalty

>>5021298
$250 for the total up-front cash amount. Only go for $90+$250 if you have a strong feeling they would accept or if taking less for something they are profiting off of would make you uncomfortable.

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>>5021283
I wish I could tell you about my process, I kinda just do it

But I do know how to start, separate your planes and start by your values and your composition
Always go back and check everything from far, flip the canvas, sketch on top, etc. Two steps forward, one step back.
The farthest the lighter, rules of thirds
Then it's just... painting and throwing brushstrokes
Early version of the painting

>> No.5021510

>>5021093
>I'm not sure if this is the right place for this.
It definitely is not, because no one in this thread knows a fucking thing about pricing.
Buy Graphic Artists Guild Handbook: Pricing and Ethical Guidelines, if you want to be a professional and not just pick prices at random like the morons here do.

>> No.5021547

>>5021510
>>5021093
To elaborate, licensing fees depend highly on what type of illustration it is and what the client intends to use it for.
For instance, a color, interior spot illustration for a young adult novel is expected to be $200-400, with licensing fees broken down as follows:
Sale of original art - 50-200%
Stock sale of existing art for use in books only - 50-100%
Work-for-hire transfer of legal authorship; all rights - 100-300%

But again, without more information you can't really get a full answer.
The book I mentioned also has sample contracts and forms for artists. Get it and don't take business advice from anyone on here, least of all in these threads.