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Hi. I use clip studio. AND I FUCKING HATE PAINTING!!! I'm wondering what your process is from start to finish. I can sketch out something and use vector layers to make clean lineart, but then I get stuck. I hate painting in this god forsaken program. It takes me on average 6 FUCKING HOURS to finish a simple drawing with no background. I know it is probably because of my brain being small, but every method of painting is so fucking time consuming and annoying. How do you do it??

>> No.5151180

>>5151178
Paint bucket tool

>> No.5151181

Use Photoshop.

>> No.5151199

>>5151178
You’ve been brainwashed into thinking good things should happen immediately.

Good shit takes time.

>> No.5151203

Start by drawing and painting using one layer and no zoom.

That’s a start. Thank me later. Actually print this out and post it on your wall.

>> No.5151204

>>5151199
what takes the longest is getting the drawing set up to be colored. I want to color inside my lineart not outside. It's so hard to fill the entire area when I have a bunch of lines that block the auto select from picking everything. My brain hurts.

>> No.5151211

>>5151204
Do the painting in another program then.

>> No.5151212

>>5151211
no

>> No.5151213

>>5151212
Why not?

>> No.5151214

ngmi thread

>> No.5151215

>>5151204
select outside, invert selection

>> No.5151216

>>5151178
You know you can make a basic round brush for painting, right?
The default brushes are for more experienced users.

>> No.5151218

>>5151204
>It's so hard to fill the entire area when I have a bunch of lines that block the auto select from picking everything
So just grab another selection tool and manually add the parts the auto select missed.

>> No.5151223
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5151223

here is the drawing i'm currently working on

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>>5151178
hello OP

>> No.5151225

>>5151223
Well, have you considered finishing the linework before you start painting?

>> No.5151226

>>5151225
i haven't finished it lol but just thinking about the coloring process is depressing me bro

>> No.5151230

>>5151226
forget the meme vectors, use a thick hard round brush.
bucket fill, with close gap + area scaling, use the close and fill subtool to cover the white spots
CSP is literally the best software for this kind of drawing

>> No.5151236

>>5151224
>>5151230
Pretty much this

>> No.5151271

>>5151226
also, one more thing: you'll learn a lot faster by watching jap streams on pixiv and VODs on youtube.
Test their workflow and copy the one you like more.
https://www.youtube.com/c/houtengeki
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheShiramasa
https://www.youtube.com/user/celisea0904/videos

>> No.5151276

>>5151271
1 moar anon to the booru trash they go

>> No.5151411

I STILL HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO BLEND PAINT GRACEFULLY TO DO SOFT AND LOST EDGES. IM STUCK DOING CEL SHADING AND PEOPLE LIKE IT BUT IS NOT A STYLE CHOICE ITS DEALING WITH LIMITATIONS FUCK!!

>> No.5151592

>>5151411
/beg/s are supposed to struggle with cel shading not the other way around

>> No.5151734

>>5151411
>I STILL HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO BLEND PAINT GRACEFULLY TO DO SOFT AND LOST EDGES
99.9% of everyone here has no idea how to do nice looking edges in digital art, nor will they ever learn.

>> No.5152204

>>5151734
Do you?

>> No.5152209

>>5152204
Getting there, but it's a real challenge.

>> No.5152231

>>5151411
Stop whining, watch a japanese artist do it goddamn
it takes years of practice to get good

>> No.5152236

>>5152231
I don't have a brush that can blend!

>> No.5152241

>>5151411
brush with blending properties
airbrush
smudge
for example

>> No.5152270
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>>5152236
https://files.catbox.moe/dciyhp.sut
it's this dude's brush, you literally have no excuses now:
https://toridamono.fanbox.cc/posts/1115006

>> No.5152283

>>5151204
>what takes the longest is getting the drawing set up to be colored
you’re not painting

>> No.5152314

>>5151224
何 the FUCK

How?

>> No.5152331

>>5152314
it's a select and fill tool that respects the reference layer. It's free in the assets store.

>> No.5152408

>>5152331
Do you have a link? I cant seen to find it.

>> No.5152414

>>5152314
Go to where the lasso tool is and select the shrink select tool, same lasso icon

>> No.5152508

>>5152408
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1759448

>> No.5152533

>>5152508
Based. Thanks anon. I appreciate it!

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5153350

>>5151224
Big fan here, how do I get as good as you?

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5153358

>>5151178
Just do this.

>> No.5153425

>>5153350
just draw

>> No.5153464
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5153464

>>5153358
Can't see shit, Anon

>> No.5153894

>>5153464
Thanks, didn't realize I posted a thumbnail image

>> No.5153898

>uses program with paint in name
>doesnt even paint well

>> No.5154020

good thing I stumbled across here thanks anon for the rss

>> No.5154271

>>5153358
>>5153464
>draw the rest of the fucking owl

>> No.5154359

>>5152270
Can I find this brush on the asset store? I'm an Android shitter so I can't import .sut files.

>> No.5154395

>>5154359
there's a link on my post where the artist explains the settings for the 3 brushes he uses.

>> No.5154412

>>5154271
Do you really not understand what the purpose of that image is? Pyw bro

>> No.5156491

>>5151178
Use GIMP.

>> No.5156493

>>5151178
>It takes me on average 6 FUCKING HOURS to finish a simple drawing with no background
takes me like 20 hours+

>> No.5156813

>>5154271
Unironically this, the sketch and the block in are worlds apart

>> No.5156830

>>5156813
Do you really not understand how to block in colors or values? It's extremely simple, come on dude.

>> No.5156876

>>5151224
I might buy CSP just for this. Krita and Photoshop CC suck ass and my CS6 stopped working on windows 10.

>> No.5156942

>>5156493
Oh yeah? Well it takes me about 150 hours and I lapse into heroin use after. Beat that.

>> No.5158180

>>5156942
i've never finished a drawing

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5158236

>>5156813
>He doesn't know about forms

>> No.5158260

>>5158236
>he doesn't know about lapsing into heroin

>> No.5158442

>>5156830
Everyone can block in values, crab kun. Blocking in the correct ones without copying a reference (yes its copying, be fucking real) and making it look believable under multiple lighting scenarios is very hard. Values are one of the fundamentals and are an ongoing study.

>> No.5158669

>>5151204
>What the fuck is a refrence layer???

>> No.5158680

>>5158442
What the fuck are you smoking? Do you even draw? You sound like you're either high or have no fucking clue about drawing

>> No.5158700

>>5158680
Read it again, carefully, take your time

>> No.5158708

>>5158700
I read it again and I have come to the conclusion that you have no clue what you're talking about.

>> No.5158710

>>5158680
>>5156830
Retard

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5158712

>>5158708
Yeah yeah, youre only pretending to be retarded, gottem, etc etc

be more interesting

>> No.5158753

>>5151224
This didn't work at all, does it need to be vector

>> No.5158767

>>5156876
Don't bother, it didn't work on my iPad

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5158799

>>5158753

>> No.5158825

>>5158799
Thanks, I bet it all on riling up someone's urge to prove someone wrong rather than the urge to help, in order to get the info posted. Thank you just the same

>> No.5159656

On the topic, does anyone have a download link?

>> No.5159750

>>5152270
do those brushes also give it that kind of texture like in the picture?

>> No.5159801
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>>5159750
It seems like he applied a paper texture on top.
pic related is how they look like.

>> No.5160129

>>5158669
Unironically what IS a reference layer? I'm new.

>> No.5160131

>>5160129
>>5158799

>> No.5160409

>>5160129
Google it retard

https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/910

>> No.5161373

>>5151178
Stop drawing digital like a fucking soi and do real acrylics you then scan

Takes 20 fucking minutes to make an acrylic painting, digital zoomers are so dumb, imagine wasting your time scribbling on a flat panel with no resistance only to smear everything with fake colors, the absolute state, digital drawings are for animation and coom commissions not real art

>> No.5161375

>>5161373
>fake colors

>> No.5161380

>>5161373
i feel the same way about acrylic virgins smearing plastic on plastic.

-t oil chad

>> No.5161416

>>5161373
why acrylics? you can't figure out watercolors? you fucking moron?

>> No.5163943

>>5161416
Probably because acrylic is easy for beginners and you can perfectly imitate the oil look with them if youre good. Watercolor is tricky.

>> No.5164007

>>5151224
I feel this is a retarded question, but I will ask anyway. I don't find it in my fill tool panel, where can I get it ?

>> No.5164015

>>5164007
You don't have it in fill or selections menu? It is there somewhere.

>> No.5164016

>>5164007
>>5152508

>> No.5164297

>>5164015
>>5164016
thank you, I managed to install it, this is pretty great !

>> No.5164310

>>5164297
yea, I don't know why so few programs care to create ways to easily apply base colors.

>> No.5164339

>>5158260
No matter how much drugs you lapse into it will not help you feel the form any better

>> No.5164351

>>5164310
Because most people just use clipping layers

>> No.5164374
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5164374

>>5151178
Hey OP, is this the brush you're looking for?

>> No.5164387

>>5164351
yes, but you need at least one base color to make a clipping layer

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5164463

>>5151178

>> No.5164470

>>5164387
>select outside lineart
>invert selection
>fill

It's not hard bro. I do appreciate CSP making it even easier though with the selection layers

>> No.5164492

>>5164470
I use a textured brush for lineart, it takes time to add base colors not matter what method I choose.
I wish the devs copied the blue selection brush from SAI.

>> No.5165055

>>5151204
You’re so fucking retarded. Put line art on top. Go to paint bucket tool there is literally an option to refer to other layers, you don’t even have to set a reference layer. There’s an option in advance settings to close gaps. Fucking kill yourself with your overreacting sperg out.

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5165598

>>5152270
>https://files.catbox.moe/dciyhp.sut
>it's this dude's brush, you literally have no excuses now:
Is this right? Am I using it right?

>> No.5166892

why

>> No.5168960

>>5151178
Use GIMP.

>> No.5169308

>>5151224
>that one pixel clearance next to borders because you have negative area scaling
Almost the perfect tool.

>> No.5169468

I've been using Photoshop mostly. Downloaded Clip today to try it out and already can't get used to the UI after using PS for so long. Should I make the transition anyways until I become more comfortable?

>> No.5169475

>>5165598
PWAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHHA WHAT IS THE POINT OF USING SOMEONE'S BRUSH IF YOU CAN'T EVEN PAINT, GO BACK TO /BEG/ AND START POLISHING SPHERES

>> No.5169493

>>5169468
what's bothering you in CSP?

>> No.5169507

>>5168960
gimp is abandonware

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>>5165598
>I keep cutting myself while chopping carrots, I'm using this knife right???
Cookie cutter painted anime pic boils down applying the shade then mixing it with the base color by colorpicking with ALT+Click.
If you don't know where to place the shading and highlights, don't even bother, start watching ctrl+paint and practicing their beginner exercises right now

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5169775

>>5151224
Anti-overflow > Do not cross lines of reference is another really useful feature for flatting when close and fill doesn't work or is inconvenient

>> No.5170166

>>5169775
This is cool, I knew there was an option like this, but I didn't bother to look for it, it seems very useful.

>> No.5170257

>>5151178
>It takes me on average 6 FUCKING HOURS to finish a simple drawing with no background.

That shit can take me days to finish.

>> No.5170640

>>5158442
>Reference = copying
So what?
If it works it works.
Don't lie to yourself. The renaissance artists used as much reference as they could.

>> No.5170648

>>5170640
the "old masters" approach to art was made obsolete by photography, you dumb trad-con art hack non-entity.

>> No.5173484

>>5169493
Have not spent enough time in CSP, I'm just used to the hotkeys and layout in PS. I know I can tweak some of it but after spending this year getting used to PS I don't really want to have to suddenly relearn digital. If CSP is more intuitive or has more potential though, I'd switch

>> No.5173491

>>5173484
The same happened to me when I briefly switched from CSP to Krita. It took me some days to configure everything.

>> No.5173530

>>5173484
what hotkeys are you talking about? a lot of the csp keys out of the box aren't that different. i prefer clip's hotkey layout for tools because you can easily bind different brushes you use to different tools. the ones i use the most get their own hotkeys. i have b, q, a, and z to cycle through groups of brushes that i was stuck to using the toolbox and b with in photoshop.

>> No.5176399

>>5173491
Is Krita worth using of the three? I switched from Krita to PS and found the transition was pretty easy. CSP feels very unintuitive however, as it has the most unique UI of the three.

>> No.5176453

>>5176399
krita is the weirdest software, like it's lag free, the fastest in my machine when I'm actually drawing, but the interface is slower than CSP's
colorpicking, interacting with layers lags and selecting and bucket fill take so damn time to process.
And that bug that renders your tags useless happened to me, and THAT's annoying. The interface sucks donkey dick.

>> No.5178223

>>5173491
Paint tool sai

>> No.5178237

>>5178223
is a meme

>> No.5178241

>>5169553
>webm
breh, that’s terrible on all points

>> No.5178265

>>5178241
it's enough for booba

>> No.5178326

>>5158825
kek I always do this