Vent Thread

[Anonymous No.5238306]

Focus on your long-term goal. Don't hesitate to act now

[Anonymous No.5238318]

>>5238306
thanks

[Anonymous No.5238344]

>>5238306
My goal is to get a gf but my crush left me on read :(

[Anonymous No.5238362]

>>5238306
sprained my drawing hand, but all i want to do is draw
i can barely draw for an hour at a time
this sucks

[Anonymous No.5238419]

>>5238344
all your goals shoudl be art related. fuck getting a GF man.

[Anonymous No.5238551]

>>5238362
>drawing hand

[Anonymous No.5238553]

guys i literally draw till my hands hurt, then It takes about 3-4 days for it to get better... tf am I supposed to do?

[Anonymous No.5238556]

>>5238553
Don't draw until your hands hurt. Do carpal tunnel stretches every 2 hours. It prevents the pain and long breaks

[Anonymous No.5238561]

>>5238556
ok thanks what would you limit it to? i play guitar maybe 45min to a hour a day, I think this makes it worse..

[Anonymous No.5238577]

>>5238561
>play guitar maybe 45min to a hour a day
>AND trying to make it in art
You think this is a mother fucking game? Trash ass tourist, either throw away the guitar and put up a poster of Proko/KJG on your wall or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.5238579]

>>5238306
>tfw listen to Bob Ross in the background while I'm drawing extreme kink NSFW
Hearing him talk about how you can do whatever you want in your world and all the happy little clouds and stuff juxtaposed with me drawing 2B getting anally creampied so full it shoots out of her mouth is a bizarre and one of a kind experience. It makes me sad sometimes. I wonder if Bob would have denounced coomers or praised them for doing what they want.

[Anonymous No.5238582]

>>5238561
I used to play classical guitar for 4-8 hours a day and draw for a few hours afterwards, and I never had that kind of problem. Maybe something is wrong with the way you're holding yout guitar if that's really hurting you? Ergonomics and proper form are important to not fucking your body up.

If it isn't the guitar hurting you it's probably just how you're drawing. Maybe you are drawing small and the repetitive motions are killing your wrist. Maybe you have your paper or tablet in a shit position that does it to you. Don't really know what to tell you, but just try to take note of what position you are in or have been in for a while when the pain begins.

[Anonymous No.5238585]

>>5238577
>tfw played guitar for 16 years and went on 5 nationwide tours and countless mini tours
>now making $2200 a month drawing coom
Feelsgoodman. I can only go up from here.

[Anonymous No.5238593]

>>5238582
i sit down when i play that might be doing it, but Im right handed if that gives you an idea. Picking and drawing with same hand. I've also never understood the whole drawing with your shoulder thing either

>>5238577
took 2 classes at watts last semester, Im sure u are working just as hard why dont you post your work?

[Anonymous No.5238614]

>>5238585
Post your work, your soundcloud, the name and dates of the tours, and a photo ID to confirm it's you

[Anonymous No.5238627]

>>5238306
I fucking suck at everything and I'm a senior in art uni

[Anonymous No.5238670]

>>5238306
Recently I've found better company with Japanese artists on Twitter than Western ones. It's surreal how they just keep things to their art and the mundaneity of their daily life (e.g. "I finished work yay! Time to go home!") and it's honestly so much more comfy.

[Anonymous No.5238699]

>>5238306
When will I finally be able to make finished lineart in under 3 hours for literally anything

Digital is hell for this, pencil doesn’t show up on photos. I just want to keep up with everyone else so I can post shit on social media, but because I’m retarded I only post every now and then because I rarely am able to finish any sketch I start

[Anonymous No.5238703]

>>5238627
Same. Don’t give up because even if you’re not great there’s dignity in defeat. Just keep drawing, it’s fun

[Anonymous No.5238707]

>>5238699
Get a scanner? Also going from traditional to digital is learning curve in of itself.

[Anonymous No.5238711]

>>5238707
I do both on the regular. Not really great at either

And no scanner, though I should get one.

[Anonymous No.5238717]

>>5238711
Even one of those dirt cheap portable ones should be fine. Honestly anon, look into it if you find yourself going back to traditional a lot of the time.

[Anonymous No.5238733]

i'm starting to get wrist pains on my keyboard hand. i am probably blowing it out of proportion but i am fucking terrified. art is the only thing i have or care to do. any anons want to share the magic pill to stop this pain.

[Anonymous No.5238901]

>good looking art has messy lines, horrible anatomy, no noses, scribbled forms that trick your mind into thinking what the thing is, blobs everywhere

what the hell is the point of all these "studies" and drawing naked men? I get so fucking mad when I see sketchy styles that are a thousand times better than my polished turds

[Anonymous No.5238955]

>>5238733
Your drawing hand is your most important tool. Don't break it (it breaks easier than you might think). Give it a good rest

[Anonymous No.5238972]

>>5238901
You are aware that they also studied fundamentals then choose to draw in this loose and sketchy style afterwards right? The reason why they look so good and effortless is eaxctly because they've built up the basics and just put this stuff on paper without much construction.

[Anonymous No.5238980]

>>5238344
Girls shouldn’t be a Long term goal, simp

[Anonymous No.5238994]

>>5238593
drawing from the shoulder is moving your whole arm to make long, smooth lines instead of just moving your wrist. literally lock your wrist in a neutral position and then try to draw, and you'll understand. if it still isn't going through the best way to get the hang of it is just trad - if you have an A1 sheet, try to do a figure drawing filling the whole page. doing long lines like that and keeping them smooth is impossible by drawing with your wrist, you'll naturally start making larger arm movements. memorize that motion and practice it.

outside that, unironically start lifting. do pullups, shrugs, forearm curls, anything that engages arm/shoulder muscles and grip strength. when you draw, don't hold the pen too rigidly - relax your grip a little, especially on the thumb and pinky sides. this combined with drawing from the shoulder should make the process of drawing much lighter and put less strain on your hand.

other than that, take regular breaks and do carpal stretches. doing all of these things should minimize the pain after some time and then allow you draw for longer in the long term.

[Anonymous No.5239602]

>buy a set of 60 polychromos
>like them but realize I need the full 120 set
>if I had bought full set I would've have gotten the pencils for 1,5e each, now stuck at buying the ones I don't have for 3,5e/ea
I wish I had some art friends who could buy the 60 pencils I already have from the 120 set so I could I have the full set for cheap, but I don't

[Anonymous No.5239606]

>>5239602
the tradcuck falls once again

[Anonymous No.5239609]

>>5239606
It's hard to explain, but I'm required to work on trad. I prefer tablet and photoshop.

[Anonymous No.5239611]

>>5238901
the fundamentals are rock solid there buddy

[Anonymous No.5239612]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I NEEDD MONEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.5239617]

>>5238419
>>5238980
I’m on track to reach my art goals I just want a qt to cuddle at night

[Anonymous No.5239618]

>>5239611
en, not him, but the eyes are clearly on a different plan than the face for one

[Anonymous No.5239659]

Why is it that only I can't draw? I wish I could go back in time, warn myself not to draw but maybe I already did I choose not to listen and here we are

[Anonymous No.5239679]

>>5238306
A relative of mine is showing signs of narcissism. He is burning bridges with family over petty shit. He just burned his bridge with me over something that could have been a discussion, but he decided to set an extremely unreasonable and controlling ultimatum for me and hear nothing I had to say.

It hurts to watch it happen. It is distracting me from art. I had to distance myself and say I will let you back into my life if you ever get your mental health in check. It had to be done but it still stings.

[Anonymous No.5239680]

>>5239659
You have your own thread faggot stop shitting up other threads

[Anonymous No.5239776]

>>5239680
No one will help me
No one wants to help me
I just wanted to be an artist
Is it over for me? I'm so sorry Im sorry Im sorry sorry Im sorry

[Anonymous No.5239830]

>>5239776
Dude with that pic attached you're a cool guy to me. Take it slow, feel better, you're going to be fine.

[Anonymous No.5239834]

>>5239830
Don't respond to it. It is fishing for (you)s, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.5239853]

>>5239834
It's fine. They sound like my little bro when he experienced some rough patches growing up. I'd be glad if they didn't have to feel distress.

[Anonymous No.5239858]

>>5239830
Do you like Alita? I love the manga, the movies, evrything
I failed my inspirations but hope has been finally found
another anon gave me the idea, trigger ego death
6 months and more I failed, existence is pain, I want to go back into the void

[Anonymous No.5239860]

>>5239853
Have fun trying to help it and then getting shot down, completely ignored in favor of "nobody helps me" posts, and abused for it. Don't say I didn't warn you.

[Anonymous No.5239862]

>>5239860
Do I know you? You sound familiar
You ignored my texts if so

[Anonymous No.5239877]

>>5239862
>You ignored my texts if so
Only a few people have my number and they rarely text me, so, no.

[Anonymous No.5239882]

>>5239858
i love alita
no no, please try not to come to 4chan if you're experiencing mental vulnerablility. it's the worst place to ask for psych advice. talk to your parents, or look up a local friendly psychologist to bounce these things off of and just vent to. they can have some suprisingly good advice and can help pull you into a better mindspace, my dude

[Anonymous No.5239904]

>>5239860
It's fine, I don't mind if they post whatever they need to. Thanks for the reply man

[Anonymous No.5239922]

>>5239877
>>5239877
>>5239882
>>5239904
I JUST WANTED TO DRAW LIKE MY HEROES
BUT 6 FUCKING MONTHS
WHY?
DONT YOU THINK IT HURTS? IT DOES
IM TOO TRAUMATIZED TO DRAW NOW
I CANT DO IT
I CANT PICK UP A PEN IF ITS FOR DRAWING

[Anonymous No.5239950]

>>5239922
Everyone gives you the best advice you could ever have and you continue to ignore it.

[Anonymous No.5239956]

>>5239950
Which advice? I missed it, please what advice
I dont want to waste more time drawing if I wont get better at it, I want progress
for example Im NOT GOING back to vilppu since im angry at it being a scam
so what resource should I use to draw?
and I wont bother if im talentless please help me, what do you honestly think about my 6 months of drawing? what did i do wrong> I know some things i did wrong but please help me anon

[Anonymous No.5239960]

>>5239956
>>5239950
I WANT THE TRUTH
THE RESOURCE
THE ONE RESOURCE THAT WILL DELIVER
INSTEAD of the scams like Keys to drawing, vilppu and loomis
those didnt work for me
pic related i dont get contours so i gave up on dynamic sketching
I want a GUARANTEE that something will work

[Anonymous No.5239961]

>>5239960
>>5239956
Get off 4chan and seek professional help.

[Anonymous No.5239965]

>>5239961
SO YOU HAVE NOTHING THEN? THATS YOUR HELP?
I THINK YOU KNOW IM TALENTLESS
COME ON SAY IT SAY IM TALENTLESS AND TELL ME THE WHY
SURE YOU ONLY WANT ME TO WASTE MY TIME DRAWING WITHOUT PROGRESS
SO YOU CAN LAUGH AT ME
NICE HELP
NICE QUALITY ADVICE
IS THIS THE BEST ADVICE
FUCK YOU PRIMATE

[Anonymous No.5239968]

I just came back from work, I'm so tired, I should be drawing now, but I guess I will sleep. Drawing only at the weekends might be enough.

[Anonymous No.5239974]

>>5239965
Maybe if you were on proper meds you wouldn’t wast precious study hours on this timesink of a website.

[Anonymous No.5240015]

>>5239965
Holy fuck this guy’s still here, isn’t he? At this point seeing his posts genuinely just makes me sad

[Anonymous No.5240059]

>>5240015
he's a 21 year old attention whore
>>5239853
please fucking don't check his metadata he's received tons of advice but he ignores or skip the courses " I hope that faggot vipluu dies"

[Anonymous No.5240097]

>>5240059
I'm 20
This is, due to NEUROPLASTICITY, the last year to pick something AND STICK TO IT
TO BE GOOD AT IT
so I CANT WASTE MY TIME WITH DRAWING IF I wont BE GOOD AT IT
>>5240015
HELP ME
>>5239974
oH, SO you know nothing?
Like I did on my literally 6 months 4 hours a day MINIMUM 5 or 6 average
so you mean Like I did BACK THEN

[Anonymous No.5240100]

>>5240097
Bullshit you’ve been making threads constantly and calling that studying you fucking mental case

[Anonymous No.5240101]

>>5240100
I did my time, I did my grinding, so tell me why did I fail? I DID my time
I DID MY GRINDING OF FUNDIES
never GOT ANY BIT BETTER
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
SHOULD I GIVE UP?

[Anonymous No.5240110]

disappear

[Anonymous No.5240118]

>>5240101
Yes, quit and never post here again.

[Anonymous No.5240122]

>>5240118
Why? Be specific

[Anonymous No.5240126]

>>5240122
You’re not improving and your mental health is suffering as a result. Pursuing art should have the opposite effect.

[Anonymous No.5240130]

>>5240126
I explained the issue here
>>5239908
>>5239951

Tell me, ignore my issues
what's wrong with my drawings? would you agree in that there is a lack of potential?

[Anonymous No.5240138]

>>5240130
You whinging every thread is evidence you will never make it. If you don’t love the process you shouldn’t even be doing it. Learn something else.

[Anonymous No.5240139]

>>5240138
No, I said ignore the personality that writes
replies like that keep us here you know
answer me clearly

[Anonymous No.5240150]

>>5240139
Read my post you idiot. You hate drawing and grinding so quit already. You will never be good with this mentality. No one is going to tell you they see some spark in your shitty studies, and that’s probably what you keep fishing here for. Your studies are shit. Everyone has shitty studies but they kept doing them because they love the process. You clearly don’t so fucking quit already you dense motherfucker. Even a retarded ape will learn to stop hitting itself over the head with a hammer but yet you insist.

[Anonymous No.5240153]

>>5240150
Imbecile, that's a what you are, of course there's no spark, do you think if there was I would need you people to tell me, I would know
I want progress
if there was even a single hint of progress,now answer me clearly fucker

[Anonymous No.5240163]

>>5240130
>lack of potential
no retard, you're attitude is just shit. If you give up watercolor just cause your first attempt was shit than you clearly don't have the perseverance to do art long term

[Anonymous No.5240172]

>>5240153
If you can’t judge your own progress there’s no way an outsider would. There aren’t any dates on your work and that doesn’t matter it’s all low level.

[Anonymous No.5240177]

>>5240163
All the resources I tried are here
I failed in those
6 MONTHS WASTED
so what should I use now?
>>5240172
There are dates
check here, what are we looking at here
>>/ic/thread/5190763

[Anonymous No.5240185]

>>5240177
Stop blaming resources my lord. Most of improving at art is fueled entirely by self critique and reflection, you own ability to actually draw a lot and experiment a lot to see what works, resources simply give you a starting point and general guideline so you're not just trying to navigate in the dark.

[Anonymous No.5240187]

>>5240185
Cope. I'm not using your shitty Vilppu
The faster you help me improve the faster I leave, your choice

[Anonymous No.5240195]

>>5240187
No by all means please keep posting. Your activity makes Hirohiro happy which equals more $$$ from advertisers. A slow /ic/ is not something we d/ic/ks want.

Please continue to waste another 6 months shitposting.

[Anonymous No.5240199]

>>5240187
Do you have brain damage? They literally said resources aren't going to do everything for you.

[Anonymous No.5240218]

>>5240199
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on that one
You just want me to do the /beg/ trap that is Loomis and Vilppu

[Anonymous No.5240219]

>>5240177
You haven’t improved. You will never improve. Quit.

[Anonymous No.5240224]

>>5240218
I'm literally saying NOT TO RELY ON THOSE you braindead nigger, use them a guide line or not, that's up to you, but improvement is entirely facilitated by yourself.

[Anonymous No.5240231]

>>5240224
You really are a crab

[Anonymous No.5240235]

>>5240231
>gives good advice to schizo that doesn’t deserve it and won’t listen to anything other than the voices in his head
>you’re a crab

The absolute state

[Anonymous No.5240240]

>>5240235
>>5240224
Samefag
You're telling me stuff I already know, no shit resources are just a guide instead of a formula but why did I fail? It's talent, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.5240251]

How do I keep myself from just deleting all my posts and starting over like every month? My artstyle keeps drastically changing and I hate all my drawings that aren't recent.

[Anonymous No.5240254]

>>5240240
Seriously fuck off schizo

[Anonymous No.5240260]

>>5240251
Accept the fact that it's all part of the process and keep drawing. If you're gonna delete your posts off social media, at least keep a backup of them. If being in public is giving you performance anxiety, just make a private archive (only letting in certain followers) or post art without tagging it at all so barely anyone will find it. It's practice either way.

[Anonymous No.5240267]

>>5240251
I kind of like looking back at how my art has evolved. I also like looking at other artist’s growth. Only real fear I have is getting canceled over the content rather than how bad it looks.

[Anonymous No.5240273]

>>5238344
Learn to be content with no one but yourself, Anon.

[Anonymous No.5240543]

How do I know when I'm ready to post my art, I just keep getting ignored,even when I feel I made something worth my efforts

[Anonymous No.5240878]

I just watched a YouTube video about a cop with a body cam having an anxiety attack during a standoff and it's bringing back memories of the time when I was a kid that I got so scared my legs gave way and I dropped to the ground. I remember thinking, 'wow I thought this only happens in television' and I tried to will myself into standing up but it was surprisingly difficult.

So yeah, I got pretty sad. I can see how stressful it must be having to be in that kind of situation where your body wants to flee, but your mind is saying 'no you gotta stay'. Then weird responses happen resulting in your body freezing up or adrenaline pumping so hard you throw up.

[Anonymous No.5240882]

>>5238972
>>5239611
I'm sorry am I supposed to pretend that fundamentals are real? is it just a big joke nobody told me?

[Anonymous No.5240900]

When does your art start to get good?

[Anonymous No.5240914]

ic is so fucking bad now it makes me sad

[Anonymous No.5240917]

>>5240914
>now

[Anonymous No.5240935]

Sometimes I wonder if it's even worth the effort to learn how to draw. Given the amount of time and effort I would have to put into it, and how much I value my free time, it may be better just to pay someone else to make it for me.

But then I start looking at commission prices figure up how much it would cost. Some pics I want would run me close to $100. So then I get to thinking about all of the different things I could do with that $100, and getting a single drawing just doesn't rank anywhere near the top of that list.

So now I'm just frustrated.

[Anonymous No.5240952]

>>5240935
IWHat would you spend your free time on otherwise?

[Anonymous No.5240959]

>>5240952
Browsing 4chan, masturbating, browsing 4chan more, masturbating some more. Maybe play some vidya or write stories if I can get in the mood.

[Anonymous No.5240967]

>>5240959
Cool, draw isntead of doing that. Those are literally uselss activities add zero value to your life longterm.

[Anonymous No.5240975]

>>5240967
But I hate drawing, I literally only do it because I want the end product. Same with writing honestly.

[Anonymous No.5240976]

>>5240975
imagine the possibilities when you can draw your own coom
no longer a consoomer but a creator
you can do it
i believe

[Anonymous No.5240982]

>>5239968
Same. Just quit my job because I'm tired of it all.

[Anonymous No.5240988]

>>5240959
Force yourself to stop using this site. You'll be so bored drawing will become attractive.

[Anonymous No.5240991]

I took out the trash, only to realize it wasn't garbage collection day.

[Anonymous No.5241017]

>>5238551
>doesnt draw with pencil in ass
never, ever going to make it

[Anonymous No.5241033]

Im a bit worried I'll be called a tracer or something in the future because of the rate at which I've learned things. I only started doing studies a year ago and ive been aggressive at it. I started my twitter not too long ago and looking at drawings from a few months back the difference is quite big. I also dont have a style of my own yet and have posted different looking stuff and I can mimick my fav artist very well. When I look at other artist's work I can see their evolution but with my own stuff it all looks too different that I'm worried I'll be called a stealer or tracer

[Anonymous No.5241081]

I'm making a little comic and I like the comments that people leave, but sometimes they leave such stupid comments or the typical unfunny meme, that I want to delete everything and kill those people

[Anonymous No.5241155]

>>5241081
Stupid comments like? I am curious as to what they would say that would anger you.

[Anonymous No.5241178]

>>5241155
its just the normalfag shit you see in the regular comment section of youtube I assume. anons seething resonates with me

[Anonymous No.5241190]

>be depressed
>Masturbate
>be not depressed
Thanks God

[Anonymous No.5241217]

>>5241033
It's like cooking; you first follow other people recipes to make something not horrible. Soon enough you'll distilled all those recipes to craft your own weird but unique ratatouille .

Unfortunately some artist took the easy way and only follow other people recipes with the aim of becoming another mcdonalds. I dunno

[Anonymous No.5241219]

>>5241190
>be shit at drawing
>fap
>be good at drawing
fucking hate it

[Anonymous No.5241378]

>professional animators back in the day drew something like 20+ cels a day
>I have never drawn one single god damn amawu face that didn’t look like shit in my entire life
Some days it really does feel impossible. My brain literally can’t comprehend what it would feel like to be competent at drawing.

[Anonymous No.5241391]

>>5241378
I watched a Popeye documentary the other day and wondered just how all of those people got to where they are. The squash and stretch animation drawing is far more complex than anime.

All of those animators are dead now. Barely any of them retired to share their wisdom and I'm baffled why that is.

[Anonymous No.5241503]

>november 2020
>get the joy of drawing back
>find a bunch of cool resources, put in hard work
>christmas breaks rolls around, 2 weeks of drawing 8 hours a day
>rapid improvement, literally getting better from one day to the next
>start work again
>complete stagnation for the past 2 months

JUST

[Anonymous No.5241577]

It's hard to want to keep drawing when everyone you follow on twitter is already fuck tons better than you.
If you're not fucking autistic about some stupid anime or video game your art ain't gonna get any retweets unless you're already god tier or make some 'relatable' comic about being an introverted femcel.

[Anonymous No.5241615]

I think I'm crossing the point of no return between normal person with weird character weirdo and actual weirdo weirdo. My thoughts are so divorced from the norm that I doubt I'll ever be able to relate to anybody beyond absolute surface level. On the other hand I feel like there might be a path for myself somewhere in this direction, while only a few months ago I would only see an impenetrable jungle.

[Anonymous No.5241632]

>>5241615
Can you elaborate?
What kind of thoughts anon?

[Anonymous No.5241645]

>>5241632
Nothing edgy, I just have concepts in my head that I really built up over the years about beauty, art, life, etc. and they're getting way too brainy to talk about casually.
Do you have a favorite song where there's that one note at minute 1 and 12 seconds that just hits your innermost feelings, and you share that excitedly with a friend and he goes "lol ok"? I'm getting like that about everything.

[Anonymous No.5241649]

THE telepath who would abuse us by telling us to give up at everything
I HAVE ASKED /X/ FOR THE FUTURE
ONLY TO BE TOLD THAT THE CARDS WANT ME TO GIVE UP DRAWING
IS THIS TALENT?
AND FATE
BOTH CONSPIRING AGAINST ME

[Anonymous No.5241664]

>>5241632
And I've been like this all my life to a degree, I'm hyper-focused on details, I have a photographic memory and tons of imagination, but it's difficult to relate with people on the same level because I think they get tired. I had other (shitty) layers of personality to mitigate that and they didn't work too well, but they worked enough. Now I just went all in catering to this passion for detail and metaphorical ramblings and I'm forgetting how to use the friendlier layers.
inb4 autist/schizo.

[Anonymous No.5241672]

>>5241645
i have the same thing, it happens naturally when you detach yourself from people and focus on your own thoughts. i did that to focus on art and ended up developing my own theories about a whole lot of stuff that probably wouldn't even make sense to someone who hadn't gone through the same thought process. i came to think this is how philosophy in general gets developed and becomes its own bubble of abstractions outside of "reality"

there's no problem with it dbh, you could quite easily ground yourself again by re-engaging with people more. worrying about being weird is a surface level concern, thinking in the abstract about things isn't anywhere near as ostracizing as being some conspiracy theory crackpot. if anything it gives you an opportunity to offer people new perspectives on things and discuss your ideas to make for more interesting conversations.

[Anonymous No.5241693]

>>5241672
I wouldn't want to abandon this, I think this is what I was made for. I already channel this through art and some writing, but I've got crippling insecurities about throwing myself into the ballroom and showing it to the world, so I feel frustrated about that. I don't have the kind of friend who'd want to listen to all the wacky thoughts I have about things and tolerate that I might take a random photo of a mossy wall while walking because I like the texture.

[Anonymous No.5241712]

>>5241672
>i came to think this is how philosophy in general gets developed
Also yes I think it's unfocused but it's the same process behind philosophy I think. I feel like my brain's on fire sometimes.

[Anonymous No.5241714]

>>5241693
you don't have to abandon it haha, it's not like you'll suddenly unthink everything by going out into the real world. but be more confident about embracing it, you really don't have anything to lose. if you're worried about some normie opinion on you taking a picture of a wall then you'll end up forcing yourself into your own box for the rest of time. there are people out there just like you, interested in the same stuff, and even normies might look at you as some slightly eccentric artist archetype - which is by all accounts actually useful and marketable anyway, when it comes to having an artist persona.

work on letting go of your insecurities and you'll find more friends who'd be quite happy to listen to this shit and offer you something in return as well. you got it anon, i believe in you

[Anonymous No.5241722]

>>5241714
Thanks, this was uplifting. Maybe I am projecting too much hostility on the big bad world and social media didn't help.

[Anonymous No.5241937]

>>5241577
>caring about retweets

[Anonymous No.5241990]

The person I'm in love with doesn't exist but when I dream about her and hear her beautiful laughter I feel like I could die happy right then and there. Real people are too deeply flawed to love and I myself am to deeply flawed to be loved. Bring on the future where life is lived through virtual reality and let me be with her. Harvest my blood for fuel while I'm in there if you must just let me die happy.

[Anonymous No.5242007]

>>5241937
what's wrong with wanting other people seeing your work? I can't live with myself being the only audience, especially when I'm telling myself my work is boring/ugly

[Anonymous No.5242089]

>>5241577
following better artists is supposed to motivate, not demoralize.

[Anonymous No.5242097]

>>5242089
This, looking at good art constantly can not only help develop your style, but also improve your fundies a fuckload.

[Anonymous No.5242132]

>>5242097
>>5242089
Yeah it's supposed to do that, but when I look at better art all I think about how much better they are and how I'll never be as unique as they are.

[Anonymous No.5242137]

>>5242132
that's because you're being retarded. make it an active pursuit, whenever you see a piece of art, to ask yourself: how was this done? how is the anatomy expressed? what is the value structure? what is it that makes this image good, and how could i take that as a cue for what i could study myself?

[Anonymous No.5242156]

>>5242132
those are self defeating thoughts. when I look at art I think is good I ask myself
"why do I like this?"
"what would it take to achieve this"
It might be hard to quantify those things at first, but like anything else, you can learn it and once you are able to articulate what you like and how to achieve, you'll be able to move towards that direction.

[Anonymous No.5242204]

>>5242007
>equating retweets with how many people view it
They make more people see it but are not equal to how many do, neither are likes. Check the tweet's statistics, more people than you think see it, most just chose not to interact.

Imo there's nothing wrong with wanting other people to see your work. What I do believe is wrong, or at least rather unfun, is cloutchashing and getting angry at others getting a bigger social media number than you.
I too much prefer having an audience, but all it takes for me to be happy with the result is that the amount of people enjoying my work is above 0.

[Anonymous No.5242234]

>have trouble positioning iris of one eye
>still looks wall-eyed after many attempts
>ok I'll just look at how other people draw it
>now notice that nearly every picture has a floating eyeball problem

[Anonymous No.5242239]

>tfw no matter how hard I practice my inking skills look like trash

[Anonymous No.5242248]

>>5242156
>>5242137
Based mindful art observer posters

[Anonymous No.5242257]

>>5242234
least you realize you arent alone anon

[Anonymous No.5242296]

>>5242156
I'll never be achieve their level

[Anonymous No.5242303]

>>5238994
thank you anon btw, doing this

[Anonymous No.5242353]

>>5242156
>>5242204
Yeah, my biggest problem is just seeing ppl as competition when they're probably just enjoying the process. I should be able to as well
Thanks for the advice, anons. Will try to do that instead of self pity posting

[Anonymous No.5242355]

>>5239679
How old is he?

[Anonymous No.5242500]

>>5242296
The man who says he can and the man he says he can’t are both right.

[Anonymous No.5242602]

>>5241033
Don't worry too much. Some Japanese artists actually find it commendable if you can mimic someone's style to T. Seriously keep doing what you're doing and see where it takes you.

[Anonymous No.5242625]

>>5242500
What the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.5242629]

>>5242625
*who
Not he. Basically if you say you can’t, you won’t.

[Anonymous No.5242666]

Social media brainrot is fucking real. I've started blocking twitter for most of the day the past couple weeks. I felt like I missed out on good art, but my general productivity in pretty much all areas in my life went up.
Today was my first day with full access and I immediately crashed and got fucking nothing done. Not only that, I also feel so much worse in terms of mental health. I know it's probably pretty obvious, but experiencing and realizing it is something else

[Anonymous No.5242695]

>>5242666
That's right Satan, it's like a drug by design. Good luck getting anyone to care though

[Anonymous No.5242704]

I want to start a schedule for learning to paint.
But at the same time I'm terrified of letting my fear of sucking at first driving me away from my plan...

[Anonymous No.5242770]

Sometimes I feel more positive but when I look at the shit posted here I only want to bring harm to this place. I need to go somewhere else where there are no people I am so disgusted by.

[Anonymous No.5242774]

>>5242770
>want to bring harm to literally who anons because you can't deal with your emotions
yea, i'm thinkin cringe

[Anonymous No.5242777]

>>5242770
Cry more, pussy.

[Anonymous No.5242783]

>>5242770
Lol git gud faggot

[Anonymous No.5242792]

>>5242770
What an edgy little bitch

[Anonymous No.5242798]

>>5242770
Nice blog

[Anonymous No.5242804]

>>5242770
You're here forever, anon.

[Anonymous No.5242806]

>>5242770
The most harm you could do to us is posting your work lol

[Anonymous No.5243162]

Wageslaving is killing me
I get back from work staring at CAD shit all day and I really, really don't want to look at another screen or paper.

Really my eyes and brain just feel so tired

[Anonymous No.5243163]

so many pussies in this thread!

[Anonymous No.5243312]

>>5238306
Art school is making me wonder if I suffer from Dunning-Kruger. I’ve never thought I was perfect, and am very happy to hear my in-class critique, but putting a grade to it keeps catching me off guard. I keep feeling like my grade is lower than what I expected, or what I was led to expect from what my prof said.

Am I just incompetent? Am I blind? I hope I’m not unreasonably cocky. Some days I can’t tell.

[Anonymous No.5243314]

>>5243312
work post it, your professor might just be a crab who browses here

[Anonymous No.5243438]

>>5243312
Odds are you're overconfident. The critiques are likely being soft, you should try asking everyone to be as harsh as possible next time.

[Anonymous No.5243475]

>>5243438
Isn’t that just frustrating? Spend years being an unconfident artist only for there to be a chance that I’ve become overconfident.
My professor is the main critic, do I don’t know if it’s just an issue of being too nice in front of the class. I’ll have to ask for some harsher feedback, I guess.

[Anonymous No.5243514]

>>5242774
I want to bring harm to the board you stupid retard
>>5242777
>>5242783
>>5242792
>>5242798
>>5242806
You'll stay /beg/ and die /beg/
this is why no decent artist posts art here

[Anonymous No.5243517]

>>5243475
Turn it into motivation. But the first step is always to fully accept that you might actually suck. But then again maybe you're just not understanding the point of the assignments or some shit.

[Anonymous No.5243520]

I cant do it

I cant shade

I cant draw dynamic poses

Im 18 and there people younger who make my art look like shit

I should just put the bullet through my head and get it over with

[Anonymous No.5243523]

>>5243520
>Im 18
dude i turn 30 soon
you think you got problems

[Anonymous No.5243526]

>>5243523
im 33 fuck your own ass bitch

[Anonymous No.5243531]

>>5243526
i kneel, grandpa-sama

[Anonymous No.5243533]

>>5243523
I just feel like I’m at the point where I’d know if I’ll be successful or a wageslave.

If I dont get into the engineering program, my literally consider killing myself.

[Anonymous No.5243534]

>>5243520
kek you're so young
Take it easy you got plenty of time

[Anonymous No.5243535]

>>5243533
shut the fuck up you child you arent literally even close to knowing

[Anonymous No.5243548]

>>5242770
I know that feel. I often take a break from the internet due to that, other social media disgusts me the same as this place. Sometimes it is good to leave for 1 month.

[Anonymous No.5243625]

>>5243162
Lower the screen brightness of your workplace monitor jeez

[Anonymous No.5243628]

>>5243625
>>5243162
yeah dude this or maybe try one of those filters that go easier on your eyes

[Anonymous No.5243692]

I've spent the most time ever on this current drawing and now that it's almost finished, it's the worst piece of fucking shit i've ever fucking made.

[Anonymous No.5243699]

I had a dream I kissed my little sister and I don't have a sister nor am I a girl myself. SIGHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.5243726]

>tried getting good at drawing for like a year, failed miserably
>tried getting good at music composition for like a year, can make stuff that's serviceable but nowhere even close to the works I really like
>tried learning japanese multiple times, always fail after a few weeks
>have a couple of skills that I'm genuinely good at and put a lot of work into, but I just can't seem to replicate my success again
Maybe I'm just too greedy, but it hurts. I'm supposed to be a genius. I'm supposed to be able to surpass other people easily. I want to be good at everything. Why am I not good at everything?

[Anonymous No.5243777]

dad called my drawings dumb faggot shit and said I'll never make it as a freelance artist because in this world you either wagecuck or make others wagecuck

[Anonymous No.5243955]

Every human is your competition, and when one dies or fails, it means more food and resources for you and yours. I read the obituaries hoping to see a young death, because it assures a higher probability of success for those who will replace that person.

[Anonymous No.5243994]

>>5243955
COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION

[Anonymous No.5244000]

>>5243699
That sounded like an isekai light novel title

[Anonymous No.5244006]

>>5243726
>gave up after a year
>gave up after a year
>gave up after a few weeks
tell me mr genius, what do you think is the problem? you expect to achieve something that takes 10x as long in the space of a couple days? surely your great intellect will tell you that something's amiss here?

[Anonymous No.5244007]

>>5243726
>A year
Lol you dumb faggot you have to put in way more than that to get good. You're just mad you aren't immediately like your Jap idols.

[Anonymous No.5244013]

>>5243548
Dunno if I'll be able to under the meme flu but I think I should just leave. I think I can't stand the public internet anymore, not just 4chan. I'm so tired of people acting like spoiled brats. I hoped that I'd find a secret oasis, but given how fast the cancer spreads it would probably be something filled with its own brand of degenerates, extremists and schizos.
It's such a shame because nobody gives an absolute fuck about my interests where I live, so I'll just have to give up. But it can't go on like this. Fuck it.

[Anonymous No.5244014]

>>5243726
the basis of dunning kruger generally speaking is that the more you know, the more you realize how much there is you don't know. it is said that wise people are acutely aware of how much knowledge there is of which they are not in posession. seeing these kinds of posts makes me believe it's true, self professed genii tend to be the stupidest motherfuckers of them all

[Anonymous No.5244022]

>>5244014
This is also why nobody will publicly say anything in praise of themselves and you're forced to go "I hate my art I still suck tho lol" and other humblebrag while you show off your ultra polished performance of yourself
You can't say "I am competent" on this shithole either without some /beg/ faggot screeching dunning kruger and asking you to post work, so fucking tiring

[Anonymous No.5244349]

man this board is getting worse each day.
I think I'll leave for good this time.
Had some fun and learned a lot but now all is just about coom-art.
I'm not into that

[Anonymous No.5244427]

>>5244022
did you read the original post retard? this guy is basically on the same level as 6 month schizo and he's crying about not making gains when he gives up after a pathetic short term effort. sometimes you really are getting ahead of yourself with your arrogance and the fact that you can't take a pyw is pretty telling. if you weren't a beg yourself you might understand why people say they hate their art, and it has little to do with being "forced" to

[Anonymous No.5244484]

how do you choose artstyle that will be use for your entire carreer till you die while its being fit to various project? its really hard my style is changing everytine i draw, even my friends told me its good

[Anonymous No.5244523]

>>5244484
Your style finds you.

[Anonymous No.5244766]

>>5244000
Damn, Japan should hire me.

[Anonymous No.5244772]

>>5243777
based unsupportive father

[Anonymous No.5244780]

>>5244349
Take me with you...

[Anonymous No.5244791]

>>5244349
The rest of (4channel) is good, it's just /ic/ suffers from something. I only come here for lurking /lsg/ and this thread now.

[Anonymous No.5244802]

>>5244791
>The rest of (4channel) is good
Lol no it’s no-
> I only come here for lurking /lsg/
Oh nm I see you

[Anonymous No.5244998]

>tfw EXPLOSIVE GROWTH after wrapping my head around 3D construction
It's so fucking easy and quick to doodle my favorite characters in any position now, I can -feel the forms-.

[Anonymous No.5245429]

>>5244998
Good job anon keep at it

[Anonymous No.5245469]

>look at old work
>half feel like it's SO fucking bad that how did I even draw it
>half feel like I haven't improved much at all
Bros, it hurts. Will I ever get good?

[Anonymous No.5245491]

>>5245469
You definitely need someone knowledgable to points out what you're doing wrong. But the answer isn't in /ic/, we're a mixed bag of different mindsets.

That one anon that hired a toptier pixiv artist as his tutor using his furries monies probably got the right idea

[Anonymous No.5245632]

>>5241990
Bruh, I feel the fucking same

[Anonymous No.5245694]

>>5244427
kill yourself imbecile, I don't give a shit about the individual case of the faggot I replied to.

[Anonymous No.5245706]

>friends ask me to teach them how to draw
>accept since I love art, ask them what kind of stuff they would like to make
>"oh I really like that anime and manga style..."
>mfw
>I have no interest whatsoever into nurturing something like that so I just name a few drawing books and leave them to their own devices

What is it about anime that attracts so many beginners?

[Anonymous No.5245727]

Getting discouraged isn't an uncommon occurrence for me but now it feels like I was never even meant to be an artist in the first place. My brain simply won't allow it and there's nothing I can do. I can't understand how to overcome my litany of bad habits and shitty outlooks, it feels like my own mind and body are actively fighting against my desire to be creative and enjoy myself. Every piece of art I see is a reminder that I'll never find within myself the skill, courage, or insight to create anything of worth, and that trying will only cause me greater pain

[Anonymous No.5245738]

>>5239602
archi, cloth design?

[Anonymous No.5245765]

>>5245706
The fact that you don't have to draw 75% of the face and BOOBA.

[Anonymous No.5245811]

Reposting from the beginner thread because I forgot this one exists

>can sketch
>can’t finish my lines
>can’t color
>literally no clue how to actually finish my sketches
How am I supposed to turn my sketch into finished products
I’ve just been looking at touhou fan art trying to eyeball how they went from line art to that
I’m just so annoyed >:(

[Anonymous No.5245813]

fuck twitter artists, thats right that includes you

[Anonymous No.5245850]

>>5245813
E-even watashi??? :) :( ?

[Anonymous No.5245868]

I had another dream with sisters (YES PLURAL) in it again! But I don't remember what it was about. Before I woke up they were telling me to don't go and get up??

[Anonymous No.5245922]

>>5245868
What are your sisters like, what were they like in this dream and what was the first dream? /curious

[Anonymous No.5245962]

>>5245811
>can sketch
Lineart are just refined sketches. I can't see how this poses a problem to you, unless you chicken scratches everything

[Anonymous No.5246066]

>>5245694
oh word, then keep crying like the faggot you are

[Anonymous No.5246073]

i just had one of those moments when i realized its harder than i thought it was. i have more work ahead of me than i thought. i go back and forth about whether KJG is overrated or not. i'm back in the he is not overrated camp. this picture seems pretty simple. i like to draw women on motorcycles too. i think im better than average at vehicles, and ive been really working at getting better at people. but when i see this sketch this is what i realize:

for one, he didn't draw multiple drafts of this. he didn't even construct it in pencil or anything like that. what i find so impressive is his ability to put more than one person in a scene together like this and have the proportions of both people end up looking good, and the poses look very natural, not stiff. the way the guy is holding his arms, the curve of his back, the angle of his head. it doesn't look awkward. it is extremely convincing and it came from his imagination. and with the girl, im looking at her clothes. every time i go to draw a girl... i mean, i want to draw them in high heels, but it will look stupid. it will look like coomer trash. somehow he did it in a combination with these skinny jeans. so its at the perfect taste level.

And if you look at her feet and his knees. they are both perfectly on the ground. He didn't fudge anything he just nailed the proportions.

and on top of that he used a lot of black. he has no fear that he will mess up his art if he adds too much and that gives it a finished look instead of just looking like a sketch.

And also like i said i have drawn girls on motorcycles. and they usually have a gun. this is nothing new. for me this goes back to bulma from dragonball, but im sure it far predates that. but he has the guy licking the sword. wtf is that? she's smilling and pulling his tie, and his hands show that he is submitting to her.

i mean, not that that in particular is what interests me, but what im saying is, we get a lot of information from a single drawing.

[Anonymous No.5246110]

>>5238306
>be inspired by the old masters
>produce garbage
>self loathing intensifies
Don't give me that "love what you do, create what you love" nonsense, because I love things that look GOOD. I feel like I'm wasting my life half the time making shit. Sorry, but I just needed to get that off my chest.

[Anonymous No.5246119]

>>5246110
What resources are you using to learn? Old masters usually started with very meticulous copying of things like bargue plates, it's not creatively engaging but the final result is very satisfying.

[Anonymous No.5246157]

>>5246119
Most of these.
>Bargue plates
>More meticulous grinding
God, I hate how much I love art sometimes

[Anonymous No.5246168]

I'm too old to ever get really, really good. The kind of good that makes you go "wow". It's depressing, but kind of freeing in a way, I guess.

Just always gonna wonder what could have been

[Anonymous No.5246172]

>>5246073
>i think im better than average at......
>record scratch
pyw

[Anonymous No.5246181]

>>5246073
good post, i wholly get you friend.

[Anonymous No.5246193]

>>5245738
application to archi school yes

[Anonymous No.5246238]

>>5238306
OC threads are the best cringe threads on 4chan. Not only is it fresh content but the reactions are almost lolcow tier.

[Anonymous No.5246251]

>think about drawing all day while at work
>when I get home I feel tired and don't want to draw anymore
I hate this. I don't know how to deal with this.

[Anonymous No.5246256]

>>5246251
Condition yourself to just start drawing, pick up the pencil and just scribble if you don't feel like thinking, do this every day and it will stop feeling forced, your brain will understand it's drawing time.

[Anonymous No.5246276]

>>5246172
i ran out of characters because i ranted too much. i'm better than an average beg at drawing vehicles. but to be real, anyone who posts here is probably better than your average person. im not saying better than the average professional artist. i'm not intimidated by mechanical shit. i draw cars all the time. im pretty decent with proportions and perspective of static objects. gesture, figure drawing, and emotional expression are my weakness. but also putting 2 people in one scene interacting is very difficult. i've done it but usually the proportions get screwed up on at least one of them.

[Anonymous No.5246332]

>>5246276
Based vehiclebro
Have you tried drawing humanoid robots? If you're good with mechanical shit then it might make the process of learning human proportions easier if they're simplified into sections like a motorcycle is.

[Anonymous No.5246429]

>>5245738
know that by year 2 you wont need that, and even in year, you might, or might not actually use it

I bought so many pencils and colored pencils before I got in, then in year 1 we had to buy liners and machetes materials, barely used what I bought before getting in. And I hear in year 2 we will drop traditional and go full digital.

just buy what you need, and you see yourself using in your off time in the future

[Anonymous No.5246576]

>>5246332
Yes.

[Anonymous No.5246591]

>>5246332
like i said, i have trouble when there are 2 people. occassionally i get lucky and it works out good, but if something gets screwed up, rather than erase a ton of work and start over, i will just fudge it and end up with an arm that is too short or something that bends a way that it shouldn't. it's very hard to plan from the beginning and execute properly. i have done it, but when it happens it's luck. pick related is pretty a pretty good example of the fucked up proportions and they are humanoid robots like you said.

Actually i think treating people like mechanical structures is a big mistake. That's why they end up so stiff. I think you really have to do all those goofy gesture drawing exercises to get people right. If not, at best they look like 3d models or mannequins or something. I hate that look.

[Anonymous No.5246727]

>>5246591
I assumed you didn't know how to draw people at all. But it's obvious you have a good grasp on them already so yeah bro hit the gestures. But you should memorize how parts of the body measure up to other parts. Feet are as long as the skull is tall, elbows bend where the navel would be, hands are approximately the size of the face, nipples are one head below the chin, navel is one head below the nipples, etc. With those things memorized, your gestures will turn out more accurate while still being made up of approximate loose lines

[Anonymous No.5246740]

>>5240059
>please fucking don't check his metadata he's received tons of advice but he ignores or skip the courses " I hope that faggot vipluu dies"
How does someone become this obsessed with a literal who
Do westerners really

[Anonymous No.5246743]

>>5246276
You should get an ellipse template to tighten up those wheels.
>>5246740
I thought 4chan wiped metadata?

[Anonymous No.5246747]

Another one of their dissociative identities here, been hoping others would help me help them but to no avail, I don't understand art to be able to tell them what to do or how to improve.
>>5246743
It does wipe it, that guy is just an idiot, hash is not the same as metadata.
>>5246740
Got a problem with us?

[Anonymous No.5246759]

Being constantly derided and insulted has completely damaged any self confidence, they are one of the most insecure personalities, I don't know the amount of effort they're putting into their art but for them to actively pursue something beyond a month, that's a new development so I guess they like it.
To take an art class in person just isn't an option, I'm not artistic myself, are they that bad? To me, their drawings are passable enough, couldn't care less about art as a pursuit though.

[Anonymous No.5246809]

That's it, I have fuckin' made it guys
I've made myself a wife and I'm in love with her
You can't even imagine how it feels to imagine your wife in your brain and then draw your wife and she's just there in glorious 2D
(Don't ask me to post her, she's only mine)

[Anonymous No.5246885]

How do you guys keep your motivation up? I'm an absolute /b/eg here with 0 prior experience in drawing. I felt like I made really good progress in the first 2 months, but by the third month I felt sluggish and unmotivated. I took nearly the entire month off in-case I was burnt out, but that once burning passion that kept me drawing every day for 2 months is gone. Was it just never meant to be?

[Anonymous No.5246890]

>>5245922

I only have step sisters, but I never met them. In the first dream I only remember the kissing part. I kissed my little sister when we were sitting on the carpet floor in a bedroom and after the kiss she didn't seem phased by it (at first) but I was super excided. I wanted a second second kiss but she pushed me a way lightly and ran to the bathroom to wash her mouth out. I went after her and washed my mouth out as well...to make her feel comfortable about the whole thing? And then I tried to kiss her again and we did but then...I don't remember after that

The second dream uhh there was this strange garden next to a school and a waterfall and it was some school dream (not retelling of my life in any way) and at the end of the dream I was laying down and my four sisters were begging me to not go by shaking my body and then I woke up...I was a guy in my second dream, the first dream I was a girl.

[Anonymous No.5246895]

>>5246885
keep drawing

[Anonymous No.5246947]

>>5246895
I really want to anon I can't let the spirit of my grandma down, but I can feel my eyes glazing over whenever I pick up the pen.

[Anonymous No.5246948]

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO THE ASIAN GIRL IN THE COOM AD IS WHERE THE ASIAN CATCHES THE BLONDE GIRL BATING AND THEY START PEEING ON EACH OTHER THESE COOM ADS ARE GETTING TO ME GODDAMN

[Anonymous No.5246955]

>drew the last 4 days
>drew today
>will draw tomorrow
I'm having fun. Gettin started again wasn't that hard after all

[Anonymous No.5246956]

I'm angry that so many artists get away with doing boring uninspired shit just because they learned how to do one kind of dramatic lignting and draw characters that are too dull to offend anyone. These hacks will be forgotten by history because they make pop garbage to be consumed quickly by as many people as possible. I just want them to know if they're browsing in here that I am silently watching them and waiting for them to fail.

[Anonymous No.5246958]

>>5246890
That was a cool read, you've got interesting dreams, thanks for the reply.

[Anonymous No.5246959]

>>5246947
do it anyway

[Anonymous No.5246972]

>gaining weight due to pandemic+work+art+bad eating habit

>affraid of becoming a alien fatass due to that

>Decide to start eating healtier food

>doesen't have the time to go to the gym due to my lack of time

Holy shit I don't wan't to slow my growth because of my health...

[Anonymous No.5247011]

>>5246959
You drive a hard bargin I'll try harder to push through this mental block.

[Anonymous No.5247022]

>>5246956
I’m annoyed by people getting angry over the works of others rather than focusing on their own work. Not everyone likes what you like, autist.

[Anonymous No.5247041]

>>5247022
Not that anon but I get irritated or jealous sometimes when I see some of the shit he's describing pulling ridiculous tweetbux
This frustration makes me work harder, it only fuels my desire to get better

[Anonymous No.5247077]

I decided to get a new workflow: straight up paint without drawing beforehand. It works but I have no fucking idea what's going on. All I know is that I put down brush strokes after brush strokes and then it looks like the reference. What. How.

It might sound like humblebragging but it's a genuine concern. I don't know what or how to improve if I don't know what I'm doing. Not to mention the fear of only being able to do xerox copies.

[Anonymous No.5247185]

>>5246956
Why would that make you angry? Unless you’re just angry at the attention they get that you don’t.

[Anonymous No.5247454]

I have some mental block that keeps me from trying to finish a piece completely. I get really painfully close and then for some reason my interest shuts off and I have to force myself to complete it which ends up taking weeks when I could have had it done in a couple hours. Then I'm lucky if I actually save it as a final flat image file. What the fuck is wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.5247622]

>>5246956
>These hacks will be forgotten by history because they make pop garbage
Where we're going there will be no history to talk about. In the 2040s assuming we've not wiped ourselves out, you won't be able to look at anything made before that year, and so on next year and next year. All the statues will be taken down, all the books will be rewritten. And no matter the legacy, if something doesn't work in that new dress it will simply be discarded. And I'm looking forward to people grieving what they lost while all they see when they search for art is pop culture pornography garbage.

[Anonymous No.5247673]

>get likes on tumblr
>its all from bots

):

[Anonymous No.5247705]

I can't get the ideas out on paper. They're there, I know what they are, but it's like there's so many trying to come out at once and the bridge is broken and nothing makes it to my hands. Surely I'm not the only one with this issue, but how do you work around this?

[Anonymous No.5247876]

I miss ramun

[Anonymous No.5248083]

Why does this board have so many spamming schizos? Drawing requires some clarity of mind so why do they latch on to it specifically?

[Anonymous No.5248089]

>>5246885
Burnout is a myth except in very specific workplace situations. You are relying too much on a perfect storm of motivation to do anything instead of dedication and discipline.
Naturally you should keep things interesting for yourself too, try wildly different things and avoid unlearning grinds.

[Anonymous No.5248091]

>24 years old
>mentally retarded
>my dream career is the only thing keeping me alive
>/beg/ tier
>no artstyle
>can draw boobs and nothing else
>no drawing tablet, old one broke 1 1/2 years ago. expired warranty.
>could technically buy new one, but that's digging into my savings
>absolutely hate drawing traditionally, sketch for about 5 minutes and then get sidetracked.
>too ADHD to follow drawing tutorials, usually tap out after 5-20 minutes.
>currently unemployed
>cannot focus on art because i need to focus on education/work with meaningful pay

Sometimes I want to end it all. This is the last place to get any sort of sympathy or rational words, but I need any kind of advice.

[Anonymous No.5248093]

>>5247077
Tonal matching is one of the first things you learn regarding observational drawing, an underlying sketch is only important for making sure proportions are right before painting.
Anyone can do it with little to no experience, but most people give up right at the beginning instead of powering through the rough stage and then think they "can't do it".

[Anonymous No.5248105]

>>5248091
>ADHD
Stop thinking your distractibility and procrastination patterns are some unsurmountable mental illness because they aren't. Set specific times for drawing and learning and turn off any distractions during that time, your brain will understand it over time and you will have less procrastination urges.
If you have "no ideas" during this time then simply scribble lines, maybe some simple draughtsmanship exercises, it will condition you to keep drawing no matter what.

[Anonymous No.5248107]

Copying is fucking hard. Do I just wing through it and eventually i'll learn how to xerxox shit correctly?
Man i fucking hope so

[Anonymous No.5248131]

>>5248107
It's not hard, just be patient and meticulous, start with greyscale images and don't be afraid of erasing whole chunks if the proportions are fucked.
Keys to Drawing eases you into it by first copying tonal bars and then a soft greyscale image.

[Anonymous No.5248139]

>>5248107
>Copying is fucking hard.
It is, if you're impatient or your eye-hand coordination is poor.
>Do I just wing through it
No, put some effort into it. Check your accuracy and strive to improve it with each drawing.

A good advice is to copy easier subjects when starting out, to avoid losing motivation. Also, volume matters, so do it a lot.

[Anonymous No.5248528]

>>5238344
now you are free to move on to the next, anon!

[Anonymous No.5248534]

>>5238362
that is a great opportunity for you to learn the theory

[Anonymous No.5248547]

>>5238306

[Anonymous No.5248582]

>>5238901
>>good looking art has messy lines, horrible anatomy, no noses, scribbled forms that trick your mind into thinking what the thing is, blobs everywhere
but it is not good looking because you those, it is good looking despite of those.

[Anonymous No.5248733]

>>5240251
Draw every day. Nobody judges your posts as harshly as you do.

If your style keeps changing then continue drawing in different styles until you find one that you feel most comfortable with / shows your message the best.

[Anonymous No.5248737]

>>5241503
A tale as old as time

[Anonymous No.5248753]

>>5248091
Stop blaming your mental defficiencies for your lack of improvement. The important thing right now for you is to get your priorities straight and to develop discipline.

If you can't draw well anyways then just start with traditional, it's the fastest way to learn. Just find a medium you feel most comfortable with and then draw. Draw as much as you can and master the medium while learning fundamentals.

Then when you return to digital you'll be able to apply your learnt skills directly and in a unique way. You can do it man. Just keep the practice going and don't be a perfectionist.

[Anonymous No.5248766]

>>5246972
If you don't have time to excercise and don't want to gain weight then you can try fasting.

It's not that hard if you like coffee and it improves concentration.

[Anonymous No.5248914]

>>5248131
>keys to drawing helps as an introduction to copying start with it.
>be patient ans copy easy subjects.
Will do guys, i've been going about copying the wrong way it seems. I'll keep pushing my best and being patient with it. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.5248915]

>>5248914
Forgot to link >>5248139 post.

[Anonymous No.5248934]

It is hard to build up discipline. I can see some progress but it's never enough, I should be doing so much more. I get so tired during the day even though I sleep well. I have to focus so much to resist the urge to do random shit or go back to sleep.
Meanwhile there are people who wake up at 4am every day to do physical labor from dusk to dawn. I wonder if there's something wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.5248941]

>>5247705
Just don't think and drown your auxiliary doubts with some lofi. Then grab a large drawing space and roughly quickly put all you ideas (don't think about quality) into it. It should be easier to identify on which one you should work on first after this point, since the hardest part is usually taking the first step

[Anonymous No.5248987]

>>5248528
I’m too sad I’m just gonna draw booba and become a coomer

[Anonymous No.5249153]

>very happy with pic I worked on
>get slight critique
>confidence shattered

[Anonymous No.5249155]

I thought the top tier artists I looked up to had the most range and used a diverse skillset, but when I look closer I notice they all just draw the same exact thing over and over for years. Same rendering, same anatomy, same perspective, same characters, same pose. And they probably make thousands.

Its like if Queen only made remixes to Killer Queen their entire career, is this what making it means? Am I wasting my time for trying to improve and learn as many styles as possible?

[Anonymous No.5249157]

>>5249155
No retard, falling into comfort zones is what you automatically do AFTER you learn and then get stuck into eternal commission slavery.

[Anonymous No.5249180]

>>5249155
Supply and demand is the never changing rule.

But if you're planning to make money, being an artist is not the best way (for example a decent artist will never make the same money a decent programmer would)

[Anonymous No.5249211]

>>5244998
tell me your secret 3D anon what did you do to finally understand 3D forms?

[Anonymous No.5249264]

>finish sketch
>i'll just go ahead and take a break before I do the outline
>never open it again
>repeat ad infinitum

[Anonymous No.5249273]

>>5249211
https://moatdd.tumblr.com/post/89998719774/deluxe-draughtsmanship-exercise-cheetsheet-tm
drawabox to develop freehand perspective senses.
Spend a longass time every day drawing 3D shapes in fluid motions and doing the exercises, it doesn't need to be fancy stuff, just really big and smooth spheres, cylinders and freeform meshes. Exclusively draw this way if you're used to 2D thinking.
Do NOT ignore the draw with your shoulder thing, it's essential to have free and fluid linework, buy a bigger tablet if needed.
Understanding what you need to do is just the beginning, you need to become one with the strokes, this is very much a subconscious thing about lining up the body, eyes and mind like the link says.

[Anonymous No.5249332]

>start drawing some fairly suggestive fanart of one character, nothing explicit
>start getting comments that sound thirsty
>ok understandable
>later make a status update just talking about the same character
>get one guy going on comment spree, detailing how badly they wish they can get a BJ from said character
Christ why can't coomers fucking contain themselves? I don't mind drawing the occasional lewd/suggestive artwork because it's actually decent practice, but this shit is insufferable.

[Anonymous No.5249337]

>>5249153
>get slight critique
God I wish that were me

[Anonymous No.5249358]

>>5249332
It's only getting worse. Perhaps the end game of the entire internet is for pornography to absorb everything until every single facet is, in some way, consumption of pornography. Maybe it can't be stopped now that we've created it. Maybe now we're all sons of bitches.

[Anonymous No.5249377]

>>5249358
It's fucking bizarre, especially the lack of self-awareness on their part. I swear some people need to learn how to rein themselves in. I get it, you're thirsty, but you don't need to go on some bizarre self-reply chain about how badly you want your dick sucked.

The weird part is that the same guy used to comment on my stuff politely and discreetly. It's like a switch slipped in their brain to go full coomer all of a sudden.

[Anonymous No.5249411]

my art is shit because I made it. People only like it because they have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.5249446]

>>5249377
People under pressure revert back into animals. The world is in an observable downward spiral. Inhibition goes out the window when ppl need a fix for their addiction. Which they only developed because there's no substance in their lives, and porn is designed/engineered to addict you. It's the only joy they feel. Euphoria like a drug. Pitiful and pathetic, without a shred of discipline or dignity. Their eyes glaze over, mouth spraying spittle as they chant booba booba booba under their rancid breath, dick in hand. Barely human.

Of course there's nothing wrong with crankin it, but god fucking damn, that shit is unironically mental illness.

[Anonymous No.5249482]

>tfw no matter how good you get you'll never make it because our interests and sense of design are just boring to most people

[Anonymous No.5249945]

>>5249332
I genuinely wish they could be shot like pests, worthless trash even among the druggies

[Anonymous No.5249987]

i feel like i keep getting worse the more i draw

[Anonymous No.5250042]

>>5249987
>>5248737

[Anonymous No.5250151]

>>5244780
I'd do that :)

[Anonymous No.5250476]

I posted a quick sketch in the middle of the night only to find one of the artists I look up to retweet it (we're mutuals). Then, I noticed they were venting about their future and how they'll live and die a boring life, and how they knew some people who died near their age (?). I could tell they did this in the middle of the night to avoid the scrutiny from their other Twitter mutuals. I was glad to be around because I ended up consoling them, telling them how I support their endeavors, that everything will be fine and that I still want to see more of their beautiful art in the future. They seemed very receptive of it, even proclaiming that art/drawing was worth living for.

TLDR - Posted a sketch in the middle of the night and ended up consoling one of the artists I look up to from their existential crisis.

[Anonymous No.5250489]

>>5250476
Good job

[Anonymous No.5250557]

>>5250476
Am I cynical if I believe that if this happened on Twitter it was completely acted out for attention on the artist's part and you're a massive simp because you probably saw tits somewhere?

[Anonymous No.5250561]

>>5247876
who?

[Anonymous No.5250605]

>>5250557
I won’t argue with you for it but I’m pretty sure he’s a dude and I can tell he purposely did while 90% of his followers and mutuals (except me) are usually offline. He’s also Japanese going through some career crisis so I put more weight on him going suicidal than the average Twatter cunt.

[Anonymous No.5250606]

>>5250557
I won’t argue with you for it but I’m pretty sure he’s a dude and I can tell he purposely did it while 90% of his followers and mutuals (except me) are usually offline. He’s also a Japanese artist going through some career crisis so I put more weight on him going suicidal than the average Twatter cunt.

[Anonymous No.5250625]

>>5238306
why am I so fucking bad at this?

[Anonymous No.5250656]

>>5249337
Post em! I'll critique

[Anonymous No.5250663]

>no one ever asked me for my blog

[Anonymous No.5250665]

>>5250476

Was it SIR?
I'm never really sure how he's doing due to the constant stream of humor**

[Anonymous No.5250666]

>>5250606
>>5250665

Oh, hes Japanese? Nvm then.
He may have actually been serious..

[Anonymous No.5250668]

>>5250663
Share it anon!

[Anonymous No.5250673]

>>5250665
Nah someone different. They haven’t quite “made it” but they have enough of a fanbase to get 1-3k + on their artworks on the regular.

[Anonymous No.5250682]

>>5250666
Yeah he only speaks Japanese unless a foreigner compliments his work. Thank god for Twitter’s in-built google translate though, it’s how we ended up as mutuals. Somewhat relevant, he was having health issues the past few days due to overwork so that probably contributed to it.

[Anonymous No.5250686]

I'm so tired of everything and I just want to take a damn break but at the same time I'm affraid of losing my skills and I also have other stuffs in my life to carry on.
So I keep going,until eventually burnout or something else stop me.
And eventally I find myself in this akward situation where I can't find sleep,thinking about how much I suck and won't acheive my goals because my latest sketches where very fucked up...

[Anonymous No.5250690]

>>5250665
>>5250682
What's his twitter?

[Anonymous No.5250694]

I am pretty good at drawing but I am unable to reach my full potential since I already study another field that takes up almost all my time and energy. It saddens me to know that I can't become as good as I can be. I still practice as much as possible but it feels like I am lying to myself at times. I am currently burnt out for almost 2 weeks can't even draw for fun

[Anonymous No.5250723]

>>5250690
https://twitter.com/SIRArtwork/

[Anonymous No.5250728]

>>5250682
>Yeah he only speaks Japanese unless a foreigner compliments his work. Thank god for Twitter’s in-built google translate
I completely agree. I found a lot of cool asian artists this way.

>>5250673
>hey haven’t quite “made it” but they have enough of a fanbase to get 1-3k + on their artworks on the regular.

Damn, even 1k blows me right out of the water. Im lucky if I get 10. Hope he's doing ok.

[Anonymous No.5250782]

>>5250663
That's alright anon.
I got asked for my blog and I posted I and everybody called me a tracer since I've leveled up so much over the last few months.
I'll think twice before posting it again.

[Anonymous No.5250807]

>>5238306
Finally took the trace pill. Been grinding fundies and trying to make art for a couple years now. I'm just so tired of being inconsistent and just want the end results faster. It's not like i ever post my work online anyway. And i rely so heavily on reference it just cuts out all the bullshit. I get what i want and no one gets hurt. Hopefully i can learn a bit more from this so i can do it myself consistently one day..

[Anonymous No.5250816]

>Check out art streams on Twitch
>They're all just 99% finished pieces with the artist making tiny little marks here and there, most of which they alt+z
Is the key to art streaming to just finish the piece and then chat with your viewers while you make marks you aren't going to keep on top of it?

[Anonymous No.5250826]

>>5250816
I've seen lots of streamers go start to finish. I think it largely depends on who you follow

[Anonymous No.5250905]

>>5238306
Where the fuck do I go to get commissions? 4chan and discord people are broke as fuck.

[Anonymous No.5250922]

My art friends don't seem to respect me. I want to leave the group of art friends I have. I put a lot of energy and love into being kind to them but they are still mean to me in return. I respect them as people and friends that I care about but they will hurt me whenever I am vulnerable. I don't know what I did wrong but I am sick of being treated like shit. I think I will no longer hang around other artists anymore. It just hurts me time and time again. Fuck everyone.

[Anonymous No.5250935]

>>5250922
If they’re hurting you on purpose, mean to you, treating you like shit, they’re not your friends anon...

[Anonymous No.5250942]

>>5250905
Go to Twitter and advertise as a furry artist. They're loaded. Furries are fucking rich and are financially irresponsible.


>>5238306
OP. I gotta admit. I like drawing. I used to be a pretty big whale when it came to commissioning artists. Then I picked up a pencil and started to learn.

>but you're /beg/
>but you need loomis
>NGMI

I don't want to be in the "industry" or have a career in art. If my art doesn't reach industry levels then it wasn't meant to be.


Drawing is a hobby of mine and its an enjoyable no matter how many people on discord or Twitter tell me I suck. I love it!!!

:D

[Anonymous No.5250992]

>>5250942
Are you a furry?

[Anonymous No.5251023]

I don’t even know what to draw anymore and I can’t come up with interesting designs or poses
My skill is getting worse and it’s becoming difficult for me to draw things that were once trivial to illustrate
I’ve tried breaking into more than a few semi-niche fanart audiences to 0 avail, my posts are starting to average 20 likes compared to 50 last year
I don’t want to look up tutorials because I am too retarded to know how to apply them
I have basically been degrading in both skill and mental horsepower since last summer and there’s no way to stop it or k ow how bad it’s going to get.
I don’t want advice, just wondering if anybody else is ready to drink themselves into the cemetery via failed liver and just veg out on videogames until then

[Anonymous No.5251044]

>>5250992
Nope but if you are on the internet at all you should know furries are loaded degenerates. Charge as much as you can. Milk them dry. who cares about loyal customers. Its all about rich customers.

[Anonymous No.5251055]

time is the enemy. and i can't find a way to get into local art social circles here.

[Anonymous No.5251148]

>>5246740
he complains /beg/ often
>>5246743
meta data still exist, they just remove Exfil

[Anonymous No.5251216]

I've been stuck on a character design for the last 4 years. Nothing feels right for it. I hit a small inspirational breakthrough tonight but my autistic dissatisfaction about it cripples me.

[Anonymous No.5251280]

I dont think Im going to make it bros

[Anonymous No.5251342]

i don't even know what it means to make it or make good art

[Anonymous No.5251367]

what do you do when you just frustrate yourself by drawing? when every single line comes out looking 'wrong', when you get frustrated trying to draw a cube because it feels like your hands are working against you?

it seems like a coin flip whether i feel like this some days. i've had some days where i've actually felt pretty good about what i'm doing lately but today just feels like day 1.

[Anonymous No.5251387]

>>5251216
>Nothing feels right for it
There's no way to tell what's wrong without posting it.
If you're not confident posting it here, post it on the /hyw/ thread at /co/ ; the artist there are somewhat less angrier

[Anonymous No.5251555]

I went to walk my odge as usual and found a $20 on the floor then said "it would be nice to find MORE MONEY" and looked across the street and ANOTHER $20 bill was on the grass. Then I quickly turned around and KA-CHING another $10 across from me. $50 free bucks just for doing a daily routine!

[Anonymous No.5251719]

>>5251023
>thinks you need to be "creative" to draw every day
>social media whoring
>doesn't want to learn
All of your problems are self-inflicted and reek of small ego issues so get that fixed.

[Anonymous No.5251725]

>>5251367
Free up your hand with loose warmups before doing precision stuff, just draw big circles and lines for a while, whatever to get the arm moving.

[Anonymous No.5251889]

3 months into the year, I have still not picked up my pencil, and I am still addicted to video games. Fuck this shit man, how do I break the cycle?

[Anonymous No.5251951]

>>5251889
Start doing studies of things from the video games. I got good at drawing guns that way.

[Anonymous No.5252242]

Why can't I enjoy Reddit and Discord and all the other shitty normie sites? I just want to escape this dumpster fire but I have this violent allergic reaction to the other environments. I have no idea how but they manage to be worse, how is this possible? They make my skin crawl. I just want the 4chan I knew and loved when I joined. It was so comfy and nice compared to everywhere else. Now this place has become just a public toilet, no respect, no community, just screencaps from social media I hate and political shitposting and porn dumps. Everyone just shitting it up and then go back to their accounts on Twitter or Reddit or whatever the fuck they use as their main. It's always the fucking normies who ruin everything.

[Anonymous No.5252373]

>>5251719
Woman hands typed this

[Anonymous No.5252542]

>>5252242

I feel you. I miss web 1.0, too. I've begun to toy with starting a legitimate webring from the late 90's. Nothing automated, no smart technology- just bros with hand-made websites and blogs linking to other bros with cool banners, sigils and animated logos.
I have no idea who would join my antiquated autistic paradise, though. But I do dream.

[Anonymous No.5252672]

>>5252542
I pray and hope that one day everyone will go back to personal sites and blogs but above $0 costs and above 0 effort requirements make this 100% impossible

[Anonymous No.5252688]

>>5252672
>0 effort requirements make this 100% impossible

This is true. Although, one could always hype up those easy webhosts like Wix or something, to get the newbies started. Prebuilts might get some traction going.
Fugg, now even the thought of Geocities makes me nostalgic. ;_;

[Anonymous No.5252830]

>>5238306
I'm 18, turning 19 and I'm still /beg/

[Anonymous No.5253299]

>>5252830
fuck off and stay /beg/ if you're gonna bitch when you're this young

[Anonymous No.5253308]

>>5248091
fuck off i wish i was a year younger

[Anonymous No.5253458]

>>5252830
I am 19 and am still /beg/. believe in the neuroplasticity meme

[Anonymous No.5253746]

>open commissions when i sucked at drawing a few years ago
>actually get a few
>ffw to now
>drastically more skilled and charging the same prices and advertising in the same places
>no commissions
Why?