/beg/ & /int/ - Beginner and Intermediate Thread

[Anonymous No.6484214]

Feel「 the form 」edition

If you are a /beg/inner or /int/ermediate in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
Use this thread instead of making new threads or post in the drawthread with fundamental exercises.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS wide using one of the following methods:
1. screenshot the image and post that instead
2. change camera capture settings to something smaller
3. send to computer and resize in MSPaint

READ THE STICKY:
Completed: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit
New collaborative sticky (anyone can edit): https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
Old: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn

RECOMMENDED BOOKS FOR BEGINNERS:
Read the sticky

TRY TO BE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK.
When giving feedback, avoid vague "advice" - point what's wrong and try to give the anon you're quoting a clear direction to improve their art (study heads < watch THIS VIDEO about head structure, read THIS SECTION of THIS ARTIST'S BOOK, etc).
You, feedback seeking anon, should also try to be clear and concise when asking for critique/help. When posting your artwork, say what you want help with, and what's your goal with the study/artwork.

Previous Thread: >>6480679

[Anonymous No.6484219]

Bad case of hangover today, didn't draw a lot

[Anonymous No.6484224]

>>6484219
you can graduate from the /beg/ thread now, anon

[Anonymous No.6484225]

Beefheart Anon here.

[Anonymous No.6484227]

>>6484225

[Anonymous No.6484230]

>>6484227

[Anonymous No.6484235]

>>6484224
do you just leave the board when that's the case? The other threads on here suck, maybe the style generals are good, I haven't checked them

[Anonymous No.6484237]

>>6484235
I supposed eventually you'll want to grow your own social media and participate in the "real world" again. At the end of the day, you don't want to be on 4chan forever.

[Anonymous No.6484250]

trying to get over my fear of wasting time polishing turds and just finish pieces, even if I know they aren’t the best. used clip studio/Medibang/etc tutorials for the eyes skin and hair

[Anonymous No.6484258]

>>6484224
Retard
>>6484235
Brainlet
Read the title of the thread again

[Anonymous No.6484259]

How do I into pen pressure settings?

[Anonymous No.6484262]

>>6484258
Fuck off and die already please. Why doesnt anyone make a normal beg thread wtf is even going on?

[Anonymous No.6484266]

Arnold Schwarzenegger study w/ no guidelines.

[Anonymous No.6484267]

what's your daily sketch streak anon? mine is 6 days

[Anonymous No.6484272]

im late

[Anonymous No.6484284]

>>6484266
Make the neck a little wider and it's perfect.

[Anonymous No.6484310]

Draw this.

[Anonymous No.6484313]

>>6481114
I disagree. When they were separate half of all posts were arguing about what belonged in /int/ and what in /beg/. Also now we get a lot more int traffic in here which increases the chances of begs getting good advice

[Anonymous No.6484314]

>>6484267
I got up to 40 days when I was doing DAD. Burned out and didn't draw for a month afterwards

[Anonymous No.6484330]

Happy new year!

[Anonymous No.6484354]

Trying to get better at paintinig, but it feels like I am skipping some steps.

[Anonymous No.6484355]

>>6484262
>seething retard can't read
>seething retard seethes uncontrollably
>seething retard thinks splitting up and having a million fucking threads on a slow board like /ic/ is a good idea
The absolute state

[Anonymous No.6484356]

No idea how to blend this

[Anonymous No.6484360]

>>6484250
>pillow shading

[Anonymous No.6484361]

>Someone reposted an image I drew
We are all gonna make it

[Anonymous No.6484364]

>>6484354
nice to see some actual paint.

[Anonymous No.6484368]

>>6484361
What image?

[Anonymous No.6484372]

>>6484368
I'm not saying because it's kinda old and I hate it now but it did feel good.

[Anonymous No.6484382]

>>6484360
explain pls

[Anonymous No.6484390]

I want to make pic related colored but I don't know how to go about it. Does anyone here have any resources on coloring a full piece. I've set up my value groups, (although dk how good that turned out, I think I need some darker values on the house) but then what? I'm guessing I need to establish a palate?

[Anonymous No.6484391]

>>6484382
>>6484360
nvm googled it. will keep in mind ty

[Anonymous No.6484413]

Over a decade of work for nothing. I can't draw. What does it take for ic to admit defeat and agree that not everyone can draw instead of clinging to the delusion talent doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.6484416]

Would appreciate some critique on this and any advice on how to make the left figure look less stiff or should I just redraw the whole pose?

[Anonymous No.6484417]

>>6484416

[kndlarts No.6484423]

>>6484310

[Anonymous No.6484424]

>>6484416
They're not really looking at each other

[Anonymous No.6484426]

>>6484424
That would be gay tho

[Anonymous No.6484428]

>>6484426
Idk bro, they're both shirtless, and the dude on the right isn't even wearing pants.

[Anonymous No.6484434]

Complete beginner having fun with Cartoon shit, how did I do for on and off? Also how do you draw a virgina lmao

[Anonymous No.6484441]

[Anonymous No.6484449]

practicing stuff today

[Anonymous No.6484482]

Check my skull

[Anonymous No.6484502]

>>6484482
proportions are off, be careful to copy your reference closely

[Anonymous No.6484514]

Took way too long to do this one loomis head

[Anonymous No.6484522]

>>6484514
>draw the rest of the head
God I hate FWAP

[Anonymous No.6484528]

I'm starting to think people just bullshit their way through foreshortening
Nothing makes any sense
Why bother learning proportions if they can be distorted beyond recognition by viewing it at a slightly different angle
Do artists just use photographs/3D modeling programs, or what?

[Anonymous No.6484529]

>>6484522
I dont think I like it either but I just need to drawwwww instead of procrastinating

[Anonymous No.6484538]

>>6484529
It's not worth it if you're not having fun with a pencil
Loomis is worthless

[Anonymous No.6484541]

>>6484538
People just now figured this out? Why was he being shilled so hard for so long?

[Anonymous No.6484552]

>>6484541
Because Loomis is good if you're /int/ and understand what he assumes you understand. Artists generally suck at teaching so they pointed to Loomis as someone who presents a book that looks like it teaches drawing. As the board grew and was full of newcomers instead of the same old crowd of talentless, the Loomis meme died.

[Anonymous No.6484553]

>>6484502
The circle is too big, right?

[Anonymous No.6484558]

>>6484553
sorta, the whole structure of the skull just looks kinda squashed to me.

[Anonymous No.6484559]

>>6484441
looks symbol drawn

[Anonymous No.6484560]

>>6484558
I need to draw shadows and more colours.

[Anonymous No.6484564]

>>6484559
PYW

[Anonymous No.6484571]

>>6484538
Drawing is fun, not knowing how to is not. I'm sort of getting it but the cartoony anatomy feels like I'm messing up in some places

[Anonymous No.6484573]

>>6484355
>seething retard seethes uncontrollably
thats (you)

[Anonymous No.6484574]

>>6484571
See, you're way above my level. You don't have the right to tell that to me.

[Anonymous No.6484578]

>>6484574
Anon I'm literally at level 0
My only finished piece was done a year ago
I'm just following along with FWAPS process

[Anonymous No.6484584]

>>6484578
What does that have to do with you being above my level? I can't do that well.

[Anonymous No.6484588]

>>6484584
What I can do has nothing to do with what you can do
Just open up the book and draw, just like what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.6484590]

>>6484588
I did, and I learned I can't in 2011 and 2017.

[Anonymous No.6484592]

Ah the loomis grind... brings me back. I spend like a year doing nothing but loomis. And it still gives me trouble to this day.

[Anonymous No.6484593]

>>6484590
It's 2023 you could draw right now if you wanted to.

[Anonymous No.6484600]

>>6484593
I clearly cannot. Or is this that pedantic joke where you mean I could draw a shitty stick figure if I wanted to?

[Anonymous No.6484601]

>>6484600
I'm saying you can open up FWAP and do loomis heads too

[Anonymous No.6484605]

>>6484601
I'm telling you, and showing you, that I can't.

[Anonymous No.6484607]

>>6484605
Dunno then anon, sorry. I'm not a teacher nor am I much of a student. But I want to get better so I'm trying to draw more instead of not drawing

[Anonymous No.6484609]

>>6484607
You might want to. I know I can't. What I want to know is why /ic/ refuses to acknowledge my kind exists.

[Anonymous No.6484612]

>>6484609
I think you only fail if you stop doing what you want to do.

[Anonymous No.6484613]

>>6484605
I mean you can, you just do it badly right now. To learn to do something well you have to do it badly a lot first.

[Anonymous No.6484615]

>>6484613
>A lot
How much is a lot to you?
Is 20+ years without any meaningful improvement past the beginner stage an improvement?
>>6484612
You can think whatever you want. It won't change the fact that you need talent.

[Anonymous No.6484618]

>>6484615
I'm not sure what you want me to say anon, I just wanted to share my loomis head. Good luck on your journey

[Anonymous No.6484620]

>>6484618
I want you to say that drawing requires talent and you will not keep insisting it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.6484621]

>>6484613
So how are those artists on DeviantArt doing?

[Anonymous No.6484622]

>>6484620
I think everyone is capable of learning, I don't believe in talent. I do believe people learn at different paces, though. I don't want to continue this conversation, you seem to have made up your mind.

[Anonymous No.6484624]

>>6484622
You don't need to "believe" in talent to recognize it exists. What do you say to someone who has continuously failed at learning to draw for over 20 years? Do you also believe that all humans are the same?

[Anonymous No.6484627]

>>6484624
Talent doesn't exist; retards do.

[Anonymous No.6484630]

>>6484624
I said I don't want to continue talking with you anon.

[Anonymous No.6484631]

>>6484621
>>6484615
I didn't say that drawing a lot alone will lead to improvement, it requires intentional study and work. If you have gone 20 years without improving the methods you have been using to learn so far have just not been successful. That doesn't mean you cannot learn, but that you need to learn a different way than you have attempted so far.

[Anonymous No.6484634]

>>6484627
>Talent doesn't exist
Tell that to athletes and geniuses.
>>6484630
Yet here you are, still talking to me. Go on and answer the question. If you can't, that's obvious.
>>6484631
You can change as many times as you want, but if you lack the talent it won't matter. Conversely it doesn't matter how bad the learning method is if you're talented, you'll overcome it. Look at you, all you can do is spout empty rhetoric because you shut down at the sight of someone who completely undermines your worldview.

[Anonymous No.6484643]

>>6484634
This isn't empty rhetoric, I am just an educator and understand that learning styles aren't universal and that skill acquisition is different for everyone.
I'm not saying everyone can become a master of any particular skill, talent has a huge role in that. But talent absolutely isn't what prevents anyone from achieving basic proficiency in a skill.
Unless you are disabled your genetics aren't why you can't draw passably.

[Anonymous No.6484644]

>>6484643
>Educator
Your pedagogical skills leave much to be desired. You can't even define what basic proficiency means. Might I suggest you go back to school?

[Anonymous No.6484645]

>>6484644
>go to school
why bother if everything is all about muh natural talent, i thought learning wasn't possible lol

[Anonymous No.6484646]

>>6484644
talent exists and you don't possess it, you've wasted all your time, now stop shitting up the thread

[Anonymous No.6484648]

>>6484645
>>6484646
Keep seething, sweetie.

[Anonymous No.6484655]

Just stop responding bros

[Anonymous No.6484658]

>>6484655
Why would you stick your head in the sand? /ic/ keeps pretending talent doesn't exist and it's hurting this board more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.6484660]

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[Anonymous No.6484664]

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[Anonymous No.6484665]

thats all

[Anonymous No.6484667]

>>6484660
>>6484664
>>6484665
I really like your style, the pieces all have so much texture and i just love the color palettes. very cute stuff anon

[Anonymous No.6484673]

Here, I'll try practicing my painting, values and style, don't care the potato/British face but I may change it

[Anonymous No.6484734]

[Anonymous No.6484791]

This cranium fucking confuse me a lot.

[Anonymous No.6484805]

>>6484658
Anyone can draw but not anyone can tell a good story through drawing. The story telling part is the part that requires talent. So technically those pros weren’t lying when they say anyone can draw but they omit the fact that composition and color choices in an artwork is what separates the talented and the talentless

[Anonymous No.6484824]

>>6484734
What resource are you using for theses studies, anon? Tomfox?

[Anonymous No.6484840]

Something I rarely see in these threads is scenery, is that really just that uncommon?

[Anonymous No.6484843]

I’m a total beginner. Should I start with a pencil and paper or buy a tablet and do everything digitally? I’m mainly interested in drawing Touhou girls for fun, nothing serious. I feel like some of the digital tools would help me (layering, colors, ect) but I’m interested in hearing what the thread has to say.

[Anonymous No.6484851]

>>6484571
You're way too afraid of the nose leaving the boarder of the head.

[Anonymous No.6484854]

I think i get it now

[Anonymous No.6484855]

>>6484791
>>6484854
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/human-male-skull-f1eaaef50e5845c796d6834fd1b702e5
Here.

[Anonymous No.6484863]

>>6484573
>no u
Damn bro you sure showed him
Lmao fukn retard

[Anonymous No.6484869]

[Anonymous No.6484871]

>>6484869
cute

[Anonymous No.6484886]

Gonna be taking a break so in the meantime, what do you guys think of the muscles of this piece? Not the best at drawing muscles so any form of critique and correction would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.6484888]

>>6484886
Keep practicing

[Anonymous No.6484889]

>>6484528
>try to track down all foreshortening guides I can
>find some mention of helpful boxes and even sometimes perspective vanishing points
>yet every time it comes down to the artist just drawing the angle how he thinks it should look, probably with a few reference images he doesn't bother mentioning
3d models help and I'm convinced that most of them are using them to help even when they don't bring it up. It's included in clip studio for a reason.

[Anonymous No.6484895]

>>6484482
I think drawing a realistic skull is to much for you right now. First get familiar with drawing the cube in perspective around the skull. This should help visualize what I mean https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/skull-proportions-5ba99282d218446e856acf36e056d3e6.. After you get comfortable with this you can move on to something more complicated like >>6484310

[Anonymous No.6484920]

>>6484528
>bullshit their way
Pretty much. A lot of artists use intuition that they've built up from years of experience in order to purposefully draw certain part of a figure wrong in order to achieve the desired affect. If you place a 3d model in the same position in space, you'll notice that it's going to look different. If you want to get good at extreme foreshortening I sujest first getting good at drawing the figure as a 3d object and then study art or photos which have the foreshortening you want. There's an image pack called Extreme angle I recommend.nmvrwg

[Anonymous No.6484939]

>>6484843
Pencil and paper. Not only is it better for a beginner, but there's also no point on you spending several hundred bucks and then realizing you don't like the hobby.

[Anonymous No.6484960]

>>6484390
Yeah, you could user a wider range of darks. You got some nice dark highlights on the beast thing to the right, as well as the hair, hand, and belt of the main demon dude, but it's not enough to make it interesting. It's fine to keep the background with a low value range so it's not too distracting, but in that case you need to make the main front characters have bigger contrasts so they pop against it.
As for coloring, you could start by adding a new layer with some basic colors and a blending mode, and see where that takes you. Look up grayscale to color method.

[Anonymous No.6484963]

>>6484843
There's 2 options:
Start with pencil and paper, since you are already familiar with it from your childhood, so you don't need to learn a tool at the same time you try to learn art. If you later decide to swap to digital though, you'll need to learn the tools and software and go through an adaptation period.
Or, you can start directly digital, which will be harder for a few months as you try to learn and get used to several things at the same time, but if you do get through that process then that's it.

[Anonymous No.6484977]

I really struggled trying to capture his likeness. Still doesn't feel right.

[Anonymous No.6484993]

>>6484272
Better late than never.
Nice froggy, I also didn't know what was going on with his right front leg.

[Anonymous No.6484994]

>>6484869
https://archive.org/details/PerspectiveMadeEasy

[Anonymous No.6484995]

Waito piggu go homu

[Anonymous No.6485009]

>>6484994
>book that tells you to go sit on some traintracks
kinda funny

[Anonymous No.6485016]

trains do not teleport and it not need to be busy line. I guess it was written when your people still was able to walk

[Anonymous No.6485024]

>>6485009
>>6485016
There's pictures in the book to spark your lack of imagination.

[Anonymous No.6485029]

>>6485024
I'm not the person you were replying to, I am working through the book too actually.

[Anonymous No.6485057]

>>6484977
Looking at the reference. I'm gonna say the perspective of the nose is wrong. He's facing straight ahead, and we're looking up at him.

[Anonymous No.6485063]

>>6485057
But that probably wont fix the likeness*

[Anonymous No.6485099]

>>6484310
messed up the jaw

[Anonymous No.6485102]

>>6484805
Sorry but this is nonsense, anyone coming to drawing from photography/photo editing can tell you about how easily you can improve composition and color choice just by looking at stuff and seeing what pops.
Like you can just stick a gradient overlay on a photo in PS and hit randomize colors until you get one that looks good and you'll find your confidence in your own color choices develops as you do this.

[Anonymous No.6485109]

>>6484977
Your line quality is really nice. Although it's a bit overworked on the eyes and nose.
Subtle angles are really hard, you brain wants to force it into a front facing view. It can help to consciously remember this and force yourself to see it correctly. You can also double check in a mirror or by taking a photo with your phone and flipping it. Seeing at a different angle makes the mistakes stand out. For the likeness, get the shape of the head is really important, yours is pretty good. Getting the correct distances between facial features is crucial. Although overall I can still tell it's meant to be Gosling.
This guide for likeness is pretty good.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/w8yrQO

[Anonymous No.6485111]

>>6485109
>>6484977
I thought it was meant to be Zuckerberg lol

[Anonymous No.6485112]

Is it really a bad idea to draw over 3d models to get the proportions right?
Or should I just keep practicing gestures and stuff?

[Anonymous No.6485114]

>>6485112
I would recommend trying to get them right first, then double checking by tracing. Compare the differences and see what is off. For example, you might make the legs too long, so you can keep that in mind on your next attempt.

[Anonymous No.6485118]

>>6485112
Both. Tracing models and photos helps build proper muscle memory about shapes and lines, while gesture/figure/master copies train your eye. Both skills are just as important, and neglecting one over the other is gonna make you plateau hard.

[Anonymous No.6485121]

>>6485109
Thanks for the advice, anon. I'm gonna give it another shot after I get some rest.

[Anonymous No.6485129]

>when gesture drawing clicks

[Anonymous No.6485188]

New bird just dropped in my way to work

[Anonymous No.6485239]

>>6484310

[Anonymous No.6485244]

What the FUCK is gesture drawing.
How can something so important be so boring to practice

[Anonymous No.6485247]

>>6485239
good. but would tone down some of reflected white, you tend to overdo it

[Anonymous No.6485256]

Drawabox is cool, but I’m starting to dislike hearing that brown, short, swarthy nigger speak or reading most of what ever it types.

[Anonymous No.6485258]

>>6485244
It's a drawing that capture the movement of the pose. Like an impressionist lineart. I find it quite fun tho.

[Anonymous No.6485277]

>>6484267
For a moment, I thought that was Gihren Zabi.
If you ever run out of things to practice, add a middle part to the hair and you're on the way to drawing Space Habsburg Hitler.

[Anonymous No.6485282]

>>6484869
How many hours did you spend constructing that rifle?

[Anonymous No.6485287]

Studies and doodles.

[Anonymous No.6485292]

>>6484869
>flashlight
>scoped weapon
>nvg

[Anonymous No.6485295]

An I spending too much time on exercises? This one is "draw your eyes" from Keys to Drawing and I spent like 3 hours on what's essentially polishing a turbobeg turd.

[Anonymous No.6485296]

>>6484824
Yeah, it's his anatomy book.

[Anonymous No.6485300]

>>6485188
I like your birds, anon

[Anonymous No.6485308]

>>6485295
The only point where you're spending "too much time on exercises" is when you're not finding drawing fun anymore.
What you posted isn't that bad though.

[Anonymous No.6485327]

>>6485295
I don't think this is bad! 3 hours isn't a trivial amount of time, but if you feel like you learned something and you enjoyed the process it's worth it!

[Anonymous No.6485332]

Unfinished sketch of Lalo Salamanca (Breaking Bad/BCS)

[Anonymous No.6485335]

>>6485332
I'm currently rewatching Breaking Bad, on Ozymandias so things are getting spicy. Funny timing to see a fan art for it on here.
Nice work, anon. Finish that other leg, you got this. Use a ref if you need to.

[Anonymous No.6485337]

why he is naked with a gun :/

[Anonymous No.6485340]

>>6485337
y arent u naked with a gun?

[Anonymous No.6485343]

How do i become funny ?

[Anonymous No.6485344]

>>6485332
his pelvis is missing

[Anonymous No.6485347]

>>6485287
perspective and anatomy looks off on the figure in the middle.

[gotyarts No.6485351]

>>6485295
were you on /soc/ ? theres an eye thread

[Anonymous No.6485358]

Today's study. One of the few anatomy books I can stomach.

[Anonymous No.6485378]

why in my drawing she looks like old and saggy and the reference looks a semi chubby woman?
before i got here i posted a normal thread and they told me to come here. They gave some critique that made sense, like the proportions all wrong, and lack of gesture. The reference, she is posed more curved, and mine is all stiff looking

[Anonymous No.6485389]

>>6485378
It's symbol drawn

[Anonymous No.6485392]

>>6485378
What you're trying to draw is out of your league right now
I suggest drawing some simple objects in basic perspective. It will help you immensely

[Anonymous No.6485398]

Drew some arknight titties

[Anonymous No.6485400]

R8 my Rukia
I know this isn't practice, it's just fun

Post theme https://youtu.be/9akaGyO9dwY

[Anonymous No.6485401]

>>6485398
nice but her left eye is fucked up

[Anonymous No.6485402]

>>6485392
simple objects like the cubes and spheres?

[Anonymous No.6485405]

>>6485378
From your drawing, I can tell you seem to at least be putting in the effort and time despite lack of skill, so I'd suggest you pick a book or course and work through it, carefully doing every exercise it tells you to do. Vilppu's book and course (do both at the same time) would help you the most at this stage, but if you want to improve your accuracy you could start with Keys to Drawing. Steve Huston's Figure Drawing for Artists is also a good intro point. If you feel like doing Keys to Drawing might take too long (it really doesn't, it's like a month-ish of an hour a day), then you could look up Dorian Iten's Accuracy guide, it's a single video you can draw along with that will teach you some of the measuring techniques you need to copy more accurately.

In short, you need to work on 2 skills: your observation/copy accuracy, and your gesture/dynamism.
For the former do Keys to Drawing by Bert Dodson, or Dorian Iten's Accuracy guide.
For the latter, Vilppu's Drawing Manual (books + videos), or Steve Huston's Figure Drawing for Artists. Pick one of each, can work through them in parallel so you can use the techniques you learn in each other's exercises as well as your own art.

[Anonymous No.6485407]

>>6485402
Yessir.
Cubes, spheres, eggs, cylinders (!), pyramids. Also ribbons are really neat to learn.
See that little black and white piggy creature I drew? It begun as egg shapes

[Anonymous No.6485408]

>>6485398
Very impressive and based taste
>>6485400
Really nice, could almost pass for one of Kubo's doodles between chapters, only part that looks a bit iffy to me is the back eye, the bit of tear duct below the big hair bang makes the overall eye shape look off compared to the other

[Anonymous No.6485411]

>>6485405
I think it's overkill for that anon
I think he should just start very simple and do this >>6485392

[Anonymous No.6485424]

>>6485407 sick, i thought it was some other stuff

>>6485405 im gonna look into this glenn vilppu guy

>>6485411 I think im gonna mix some stuff, practicing the shapes and watching vilppu's videos couldnt be super overwelming

[Anonymous No.6485429]

>>6485408
What about now? Hopefully it looks better

[Anonymous No.6485434]

My 2nd painting with acrylic

[Anonymous No.6485444]

>>6485343
Even better

[Anonymous No.6485460]

>>6485429
looks better

[Anonymous No.6485474]

>>6485434
Nice!

[Anonymous No.6485480]

>>6484214
Hey /beg/, how do I stop quitting?

Just cleaned my Intuos 4 with rubbing alcohol after not using it for 9 months.
I had a strong start in 2022. Started with Krenz, felt really good. Moved on to figure drawing. Even did the 100 boxes meme. I've kept drawing something every day for 3 months.

And then.. all of a sudden... like it was all in vain, I quit.
First I just let the tablet sit right there in front of me. "I'll get back into it...", "Just you wait /beg/ igmi!", "Looking forward to showing off my monthly improvements on new years" I kept saying to myself. 2 months later I finally moved it aside... the dust kept piling... and here we are.

Help

[Anonymous No.6485486]

>>6485308
>>6485327
Yeah, I think it was worth it, but I was certainly tired by the fourth hour
>>6485351
>were you on /soc/
Fuck no.

[Anonymous No.6485491]

>>6485480
What kind of fucked up shit you are in to? Make that your sole reason for drawing
>play vidya? draw fanart
>like anime? draw hentai
>like pets? draw furry
>are you a pedo? draw loli

[Anonymous No.6485503]

>try doing cel-shaded lineart
>takes me days to finish and it's a chore
>do everything on one layer, just slam more paint on top
>it's fun but messy
i wonder how this would look if i spent a couple more hours cleaning it up
>>6485480
draw more stuff you enjoy and less boxes

[Anonymous No.6485506]

>>6485474
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.6485516]

study practice

[Anonymous No.6485519]

>>6485516
style practice* my brain is tired

[Anonymous No.6485526]

>>6485503
Fuck around and find out.
Part of the process is finding yours.

[Anonymous No.6485527]

>>6485516
Rather pug-like in appearance

[Anonymous No.6485530]

>>6485398
I like how it done but I doubt you are who did that

[Anonymous No.6485531]

>>6485516
Eyes are a bit too low even accounting for style. If it's her hair that just puffs up above her head it needs to be clearer.

I like your style though, anon. Keep going !

[Anonymous No.6485533]

>>6485347
I thought so, how can I do that better?

[Anonymous No.6485561]

>start to improve a little bit at anime
>gets harder and harder to find good study material because you start to notice the flaws in more drawings, especially fan art
It's a blessing and a curse

[Anonymous No.6485563]

>>6485516
Good linework, ugly face.
Find a new style.

[Anonymous No.6485569]

>>6485527
>>6485531
>>6485563
fug you're right, I can see it now
guess im too tired

[Anonymous No.6485590]

why do I get no replies

[Anonymous No.6485592]

>>6485590
me too anon

[Anonymous No.6485594]

>>6485590
Because I'm drawing.

[Anonymous No.6485597]

>>6485590
because you're a ngmi faggot and it shows

[Anonymous No.6485600]

>draw circles clockwise
>hey they are getting decent
>oh right should try going counter clockwise
>shit
fug

[kndlarts No.6485608]

[Anonymous No.6485624]

>>6485590
because you keep making ugly studies but never finish anything lmao.

[Anonymous No.6485686]

DAB shitter reporting. I'm on the texture exercise doing a crumpled piece of paper and I don't get it. I'm trying to draw what I see buy this is totally alien to me and I'm just doing what feels like floating planes. Is there an aha moment here that I'll stumble into?

[Anonymous No.6485691]

>>6484805
>Anyone can draw
Why do you lie?

[Anonymous No.6485701]

>>6485480
You stop starting. You will never need fear quitting again. I don't even know how you started with krenz but I can tell you right now that you're never going to make it.

[Anonymous No.6485703]

>>6485608
cool skelly. Try smoothing your lines

[Anonymous No.6485711]

>>6485686
If you have to ask? No, there won't. You had a chance and you're proving that drawing isn't for you.

[Anonymous No.6485720]

>6485711
>If you don't intuitively know everything you're never gonna make
Post your Mona Lisa you hilarious faggot

[Anonymous No.6485723]

>>6484214
any tips on perspective? to me it looks a little distorted due to the closeness of the vanishing points.

[Anonymous No.6485739]

>>6485720
You have never held a job and it shows. Nobody takes this kind of excuse seriously.

[Anonymous No.6485741]

>6485739
Post job and nose

[Anonymous No.6485747]

>>6485741
>oh I know I didn't do enough but give me more time and it'll justify throwing money away on me
Any job means any job, anon. Trades, sales, management, finances, you name it, they expect results. It doesn't mean you need to be the best of the best, but there's a certain speed you're expected to reach and maintain and you can expect to be let go if you can't manage that.

[Anonymous No.6485751]

don't engage with trolls

[Anonymous No.6485756]

>>6485751
I know anon, I should know better but how can I stand by and let people sell NGMIs a lie that this time they'll really become an artist and somehow doing the same shit they've done for years will be different this time? Trolls need to get called out. They still infest the /ic/ sticky webpage so there's a lot of work to do to get rid of them.

[Anonymous No.6485758]

>>6485751
I'm pretty sure he's using a chatgpt bot as a therapist and just pasting the replies

[Anonymous No.6485759]

>>6485758
Unfortunately for you this is all handcrafted.

[Anonymous No.6485763]

>6485759
>No work posted
Sus

[Anonymous No.6485768]

I've seen some deranged people in threads before but coming here day after day to try to and bait people into not drawing is some real insane shit.
Seek help fren.

[Anonymous No.6485771]

>>6485763
What work are you looking for?
>>6485768
>bait
I'm telling you retards to admit the facts instead of insisting anyone can draw. That's all.

[Anonymous No.6485776]

>>6485723
>to me it looks a little distorted due to the closeness of the vanishing points.
You're right. Look into "cone of vision".

[Anonymous No.6485785]

>>6485771
My friend, why are you posting here if you don't have any hope of improving? It's just annoying and cringe, you are just a fucking insect buzzing about contributing nothing. Quit being an attention-seeking fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.6485792]

>>6485785
But I do have hope of improving this dump. Time after time I find people who were inspired by me to walk away from this cesspit. They gave up on drawing and found happiness doing something else. That's reason enough.

Now tell me, why do you insist anyone can learn to draw? What process do you imagine leads someone to draw? What's your work look like?

[Anonymous No.6485793]

>>6485785
Just don't respond. It's that guy who would post the retarded looking portraits and complained that he didn't want to be a human xerox (he says this a lot) and complains that he works too much to practice anyway. He got blackpilled and just does this, crabbing for hours. Wait for his shift to start.

[Anonymous No.6485799]

>>6485793
You're thinking of two different people anon. Can you try answering any of the questions I ask instead of dismissing them? You could even draw the answer. Or is that too much work for you? Wasn't drawing fun?

[Anonymous No.6485813]

>>6485686
Draw this. Include the border.

[Anonymous No.6485819]

>>6484356
Well, I guess I'll just leave it like this.

[Anonymous No.6485821]

>read the sticky
What if you can't? I've been getting to that picasso exercise and the six videos after and, my brain just refuses to focus. It wants to see something else on youtube, or it's frustrated at all the terms it doesn't understand, or we're just getting depressed that this as far as I get everytime.

I've been sitting here for three hours, and I'm sure that the big easy answer is just draw, but you guys said I saw it somewhere, that just drawing without the basics is a waste of time but, every attempt to digest the basics is failing for me and I don't know how to sit down and get it into my brain. I have ADHD, I take meds for it, but it's not helping. I have this subconscious lock against improving, and I want to improve? I think? Oh that just goes into a whole big mess of 'what I want' and I don't even know what the fuck I want from art and just asking that feels like ground you've covered and

you get why I've been thinking and cycling my brain on this for a while, just nothing's getting done, and it's frustrating me and that frustration means nothing's getting done and it just loops and loops until it's been three hours and I'm feeling like hurting myself, like the only resolution is to feel pain to resolve this building shame and self-loathing

help, i don't know how but help, I shouldn't be this whipped up over desires to draw cartoons better but gdi here we are fuck is this peak ngmi, i don't think i would want to live if i knew i wasn't even going to be able to make art with my life but fuck I think i can't even do that

[Anonymous No.6485822]

I'm getting filtered by the first loomis exercise. These faces are not funny.

[Anonymous No.6485824]

>>6485821
Get therapy anon.

[Anonymous No.6485825]

>>6485821
FZD 89

[Anonymous No.6485829]

>>6485819
Good effort. Looks like your shadows are a tad too light. Can't give you any straight answers on blending. but maybe you can learn a thing or two from this (even tho it's traditional) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpDLyGzi9Tk

[Anonymous No.6485832]

>>6485821
You can do something else anon. You will never be able to learn how to draw, and that's okay. Stop stressing out over it. The Picasso exercise is a great way to instantly filter out non artists but the evil thing about it is that they pretend everyone can do it, which makes you feel guilty. There's no help provided for those who can't make it. It is a toxic cult of positivity.
>>6485824
How much therapy does someone need to take before an internet rando feels they've had enough?
>>6485822
If you're not having fun with a pencil it ain't worth it.

[Anonymous No.6485833]

>>6485829
Thank you, I'll watch it right away.

[Anonymous No.6485834]

>>6485799

[Anonymous No.6485843]

>>6485821
If the meds aren't helping your ADHD you need a therapist/counselor/psych of some sort to walk you through figuring out how you can mitigate the issues you are having. There are a lot of different strategies out there to help people who are struggling with executive functioning, focus, etc.
Medicine is enough for some people but it sounds like you need more coping strategies and shit.

[Anonymous No.6485848]

>>6485834
Nice, you're subconsciously agreeing with me. The anon depicted there is nothing but a fag with no hope of improving his drawing ability.
>>6485843
No anon, sometimes the ADHD is your brain scrambling your thoughts up when it senses danger. Art is a waste of time for someone like that, they will never be able to reach the heights of the mostly neurotypical artists they dream of copying.

[Anonymous No.6485853]

>>6485821
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynew5KSbAQQ

[Anonymous No.6485859]

>>6485853
Apples and oranges.

[Anonymous No.6485860]

>>6485859
nah.

[Anonymous No.6485879]

>>6485860
Yeah, perfectionism and ADHD are two different beasts.

[Anonymous No.6485889]

>>6485879
why even assume it was a response to adhd.

[Anonymous No.6485893]

>>6485889
>>6485821
>I have ADHD

[Anonymous No.6485896]

>>6485893
ait here you go
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbE0MAoC21Q

[Anonymous No.6485904]

>>6485896
Wrong poster to quote, anon. It's impossible to learn how to draw, especially like a neurotypical, when you have ADHD. Full stop.

[Anonymous No.6485913]

>>6481683
struggling quite a bit over here.
guess i'm trying too many things where my skill level isn't there yet.
i was happy with how the face turned out, everything else feels fucked.

[Anonymous No.6485919]

>>6485904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouZrZa5pLXk

[Anonymous No.6485920]

>>6485919
You don't even watch the videos you link.

[Anonymous No.6485924]

>>6485913
just keep going. finish it. i like it so far

[Anonymous No.6485925]

Greetings BEG! Finished the book. It is basically direct upgrade of the Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. Instead of babbling about brain and failing usa school system it contains very detailed idiot-proof step-by-step guides for each exercise it gives you. I didnt really learn much new stuff from it but eh, it wasnt waste of time: i drew. Still its power and scope is nowhere near Keys to drawing which i still consider as king of BEG books.

>>6485822
loomis is book for INTs or higher begs. You have been warned.
>>6485821
Pick a beg book and do 2 pages per day. Easy peasy. Write down on which page you ended yesterday
>>6485819
i too suck ass at blending. But i cope by saying i havent researched blending tools in krita so i have hope :-) Not bad at all study
>>6485686
you are trying to do contour exercise and honestly giving beginner crumpled paper as reference for that is MADNESS. Even high beg would struggle a lot with such poopy reference. Do yourself a favor and pick actual good course like Keys to Drawing or Drawing for utter Beginner (i just finished). The more i learn about DAB the more shitty it looks
>>6485600
post your circles
>>6485503
even your "messy" looks very nice. Have you considered using eraser to clean the around lines for lineart? Might work out for you
>>6485480
idk, slow and steady?
>>6485434
low contrast but it could be just bad photo skill. Still good one!
>>6485398
INT
>>6485295
very solid! dont worry about time, take all the time you need. After a few months you will speed up considerably. Until then each pencil stroke will be pain. Btw why did you make outline of right iris but not for left one?
>>6485244
if you are getting bored then you arent doing them fast enough
>>6485188
weaker than your previous birds. The BEG can tell you have been slacking
>>6484995
hard to tell what is going on. Either you need to hatch more carefully (dont cross over outlines) or use thicker outlines for the objects so the objects are more obvious.

[Anonymous No.6485926]

>>6485920
if you say so

[Anonymous No.6485929]

>>6485926
Considering all you do is spam links without context, I know so.

[Anonymous No.6485933]

Do you guys rotate the canvas (be digital or trad, whatever) to draw lines in your most comfortable position, or you can draw clean lines in any direction without rotating the canvas?

[Anonymous No.6485934]

>>6485925
>Easy peasy
Easy for you to say. What beg book? A trap like Loomis?

[Anonymous No.6485936]

Fuck you guys I’m learning blender

[Anonymous No.6485937]

>>6485929
Guess you should watch the videos for context. There's a handy dandy double speed option if you're in a hurry.

[Anonymous No.6485939]

>>6485937
Transcript or image or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.6485940]

>>6485939
You're gonna lose all the nuance.

[Anonymous No.6485943]

>>6485933
I rotate but I use a regular pen grip so it is harder to draw in any direction. If you use the overhand grip it is easier to draw lines in any direction. Also drawing at an angle helps.

[Anonymous No.6485944]

>>6485940
Oh well, I don't care. You're the one trying to make a guy waste his time on an unrelated video about ADHD.

[kndlarts No.6485946]

[Anonymous No.6485947]

>>6485936
blender is fun

[Anonymous No.6485949]

>>6485944
you made it about adhd

[Anonymous No.6485958]

>>6485933
Rotating is a NGMI.

[Anonymous No.6485961]

>>6485949
>You
I wasn't OP.

[Anonymous No.6485964]

>>6485933
Rarely. Think it's good practice to not get dependent on one motion.

[kndlarts No.6485965]

anyone got tips on simulating threshold effects like in picrel, i did this with that in mind, any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.6485967]

Do you think there's anything art related that's actually worth spending money on? I've been drawing on a tablet in photoshop since I started because I already had that stuff and I buy books because I don't like reading pdfs but I'm otherwise spending nothing on what might now be my main hobby.

[Anonymous No.6485969]

>>6485949
>>6485940
>>6485937
>>6485926
ignore that poster, I'm >>6485821, thank you for sharing the videos, I can't say they're making me feel better, but they're informative

And yes, lol, I regularly 2x videos if they're more than 30 minutes

[Anonymous No.6485972]

>>6485969
They're not going to help you learn how to draw, anon. After all, none of them talk about it.

[kndlarts No.6485975]

>>6485967
i think the only good stuff to invest in is courses and brushes

[Anonymous No.6485978]

>>6485967
a good pencil or pen and a small sketch book. You never know when you see something that you want to draw.

[Anonymous No.6485980]

Can someone explain this to me?
How come you can't just draw stuff and over time get better? I'm a writer, I've written all my life. I never had to study novels or other authors to get better, I just learned how to do it through osmosis and, more importantly, simply doing it. How come learning how to draw isn't that way? I don't even know how to tackle learning how to draw because everything I've ever learned how to do has just been to do it and get better, but for drawing, you have to read books and watch videos and have the right equipment and so on and so on. Is it possible to just draw shit all the time and inevitably get better? From my understanding, if you do that, you're just going to end up like Chris Chan or Linkara where you just keep drawing the same garbage with the same mistakes over and over.
Of course, I don't expect to be able to draw perfect anatomy without studying, but I mean, it feels like you can't even do decent work without having to rigorously train and study... It's all very confusing.

[Anonymous No.6485986]

>>6485980
>Can
No because writers cannot become artists. You'll have artists try to explain but they can't because they aren't wired the way you are.
Also lol get the fuck out of here with your "I never had to study novels" BS

[Anonymous No.6485989]

>>6485967
A screen tablet - if you have any interest in digital art, I advise against 13" as I regretted that

[Anonymous No.6485992]

>>6485980
>How come you can't just draw stuff and over time get better?
???

[Anonymous No.6485996]

>>6485969
>They're not going to help you learn how to draw, anon.
I... know? That's why I didn't say that, I said 'can't say they made me feel better' because he started talking about diet and habits affecting emotion, (marijuana lowers REM sleep, diet can affect motivation) and that has me rolling back my years thinking how long some of these problems have been in play, which is making me think more about past mistakes and bringing my mood down more...

It's like a gordian knot of depression, all attempts to untangle are just dragging me down more, or my mind just wants to find the worst way to take it. I get that that's exhausting to hear for someone trying to help me, and I don't want you to think it wasn't worth it, but I felt like explaining. I don't know if I needed to explain, but I wanted to, and it's been a few hours since I've been doing something I wanted to do.

I guess asking art questions >>6485825 I googled that and got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqWX7onVmU I think that's what he wanted to link but
>don't draw cartoons because you'll pick up other people's styles from it
Is that really a problem if all I was ever trying to do with learning art was to get good enough to replicate an established one? All of this self-hate is over drawing pictures for a fanfiction that look as good or closer to the style of a show I'm working on (no one's just going to read a words-only adaptation of a visual medium). I figure, yes, I should learn the fundamentals and such to get better overall, but... in this case, isn't just drawing the references of the cartoon style I'm trying to emulate fine? Or at least, fine enough to be okay for 'just draw'ing?

[Anonymous No.6485997]

>>6485980
They're the same, it's just that formal English education is a lot better than formal art education.
By the time you leave school you've learnt punctuation, grammar, sentence structure etc etc but if you're anything like me by the time you finish compolsory art classes you've learnt nothing actually useful.

[Anonymous No.6486001]

>>6485980
I think you need good taste to take the "just draw" route.

[Anonymous No.6486003]

>>6485996
Look at the title, it's a meme
And yes, ADHD means you will never be able to learn how to draw. Especially if you wanted to replicate a neurotypical artist, as I said earlier.

[Anonymous No.6486007]

>>6486003

[Anonymous No.6486013]

[Anonymous No.6486017]

>>6485997
Thank you, this actually really helped me. English is a core subject, so of course you learn a lot more. The last time I "studied" a novel was in high school and through that and a general growing interest in storytelling, I've learned how to analyze a story and now I just passively do it as I read. Like you said, art education is very bad, at least in American public schools; like for one unit we're painting, then the next we're drawing perspective, then the next we're making pottery. I never actually realized how much of a head start school gave me when it came to writing, which is why my writing is much better than my drawing. I need to effectively supplement the years wasted in art class with actual art education through books.
I've spent so long looking at drawing as this enigmatic and incomprehensible beast when it's really just because I wasn't given a proper foundation and understanding of it. Well, I'm off to doodle in a notebook now. Thank you

[Anonymous No.6486022]

>>6486017
Stick to writing.

[Anonymous No.6486030]

>>6485934
I can personally vouch on
>keys to drawing
>drawing for the absolute and utter begginer, revised
Both these books should be very resistant to your ADHD as long as you split the book into enough pieces so you dont get overwhelmed. Just two pages per day. If book has 200 pages and you crawl 2 pages per day, you will finish it before summer starts.

If you have mega strong ADHD then print the book and physically take 2 pages out of it at a time so your brain cannot slobber over whole book nonstop flipping back and forth. And just copy the drawings and do the exercises.

if you cannot do even the 1 or 2 pages at a time then i am sorry, you will be forever NGMI and probably end up dying as hobo on street since you will never finish even applying for social welfare. I wish you good luck. You will probably need it.

>>6485980
i have seen too many badly written fanfics online to know you dont learn good storytelling just "by writing a lot". You need a good feedback or good references. Or you will end up just like with the drawing: writing the same shit, using the same limited vocabulary and using the same broken grammar and ineffective tropes.

[Anonymous No.6486031]

I rely on horizontal flips to see if I'm drawing things correctly, and I always notice very wrong angles after flipping it. Without the flip, it feels correct, I cannot notice it is wrong.

Is this sign of NGMI?

[Anonymous No.6486039]

>>6485296
Share it?

[Anonymous No.6486041]

>>6485980
You haven't written a great novel yet just like you haven't painted a masterpiece. Your writing is as shitty as your drawing.

[Anonymous No.6486048]

>>6486031
Nah this is a known thing where you can't spot mistakes when you're in the zone.
The traditional way to spot them is to either walk around the studio and look at your work from different angles or to come back to it later. Flipping is just a digital way to get the same effect of breaking familiarity

[Anonymous No.6486050]

>>6482176
Continuing from here.
I wanted to get some color in the girl's sweater while still keeping them monochrome. I intend to add a different line color for each photo, based on the surrounding. I'll be adding some more shading to the cloth bits as well.

[Anonymous No.6486054]

>>6486050
Really cute stuff, I love the progress on these so far

[Anonymous No.6486083]

>>6486030
I tried ktd already. It was a huge failure. I can't really do drawing for the absolute beginner because I already tried ktd so I'm not a beginner. Also you dont have ADHD

[Anonymous No.6486097]

>>6486083
consider pressing ctrl + w

[Anonymous No.6486116]

I hope this isn't a NGMI trait but I just want to have nice lineart, I have zero desire to render right now.

[Anonymous No.6486128]

>one chance to be born
>born a poor third worlder
>digital fingerlet

[Anonymous No.6486132]

>>6486097
Consider actually trying to understand what ADHD is and talk with someone who's actually familiar with it instead of what you read about on 4chan once or twice

[Anonymous No.6486139]

>>6486116
At least you won't become one of those artists who uses over-the-top rendering to hide poor drawing skills

[Anonymous No.6486188]

>>6485282
0.03
I just draw red lines for the box shape of the rifle then everything else I just draw on whim
>>6485292
>flashlight
The white light is not on
>scoped weapon
>nvg
She is not using the scope, she is passively aiming using the piggybacked red dot

[Anonymous No.6486205]

Working on a new bird
Still not finished

[Anonymous No.6486278]

What’s /ic/s take on istebrak is it a good start on learning how to draw faces

[Anonymous No.6486292]

>>6484214

[Anonymous No.6486315]

>reading comics while taking a break from grinding
>they tell me to get back to studying loomis

[Anonymous No.6486321]

>>6486292
this are great anon

>>6486205
I like it

[Anonymous No.6486336]

Phone camera is such a nightmare for trying to photo my paintings.

>>6486292
Look great to me, how long were you taking for them?

>>6486205
Cute, looking forward to seeing it finished.

>>6486128
Is a digital fingerlet someone who has short fingers? Sketch looks cool anyway.

>>6486013
Interesting work. Head looks a bit big to me and I think the way the hood is hanging is a bit weird, I feel like it sticks out on the her right a little bit too much, also looks kind of odd how it goes behind the hair on her left at the bottom, almost like it goes right into her neck.

>>6485946
Soulful.

>>6485913
Agreed with the other dude, keep going. I honestly like the looseness of the body and background,I'd personally maybe define the hands a little bit more and leave the rest. I think the face is a bit too black, looks like hes been working in a coal mine as opposed to in shadow, I'm too beg to give solid advice but I think its like a colour theory thing.

[Anonymous No.6486367]

>>6484673
I think I'm done for yesterday, time to go for a new one and see how it gets. Any advice/critic? I don't want to keep talking alone :(

[Anonymous No.6486379]

>>6486367
Nice symbols but where's the drawing

[Anonymous No.6486489]

[Anonymous No.6486520]

>>6486030
How do you use Charles Bargue's drawing course? Do you just copy page after page?

[Anonymous No.6486541]

>>6485821
This is an enormous mental effort, but go slower. Turn off the music, the non-related yt videos, anything. If the brain starts panicking - take a step back for an hour, but then come back to it.

[Anonymous No.6486546]

>>6486367
Sorry anon, it's a bit hard for me to judge such a zoomed in portrait.
Do you start with the skull?

[Anonymous No.6486560]

>>6486367
Symbolic. Do something in 3/4th view.

[Anonymous No.6486571]

flat front is at the same time more easy and more hard thing to do. It much more easy to place features, to draw a simple face contour and you just copy eyes but much harder to give it any sense of depth. if you turn it even simple shapes will reads as having some depth but it harder to orient and put it together

[Anonymous No.6486692]

[Anonymous No.6486702]

Thoughts on the poncho? Also, how do you draw the sun hat?

[Anonymous No.6486720]

I'm not sure but isnt poncho have just head hole, and what you did is some kind of sleeveless jacket

[Anonymous No.6486735]

>>6485401
Redline it, show the class how it's done big boy

[Anonymous No.6486750]

>>6486541
That's not how ADHD works.

[Anonymous No.6486777]

>>6486050
why she looks like she has down syndrome lmao
the blue berry man and the plush is the only good thing about this kek

[Anonymous No.6486802]

>>6485378

[Anonymous No.6486806]

>>6485600
>oh right should try going counter clockwise
Why?

[Anonymous No.6486835]

>>6486735
NTA but if you cant see that mistake you are NGMI

[Anonymous No.6486841]

>>6486835
NTA but pyw

[Anonymous No.6486852]

>>6486841
here you go, big boy
what now

[Anonymous No.6486860]

>>6486777
How rude!

[Anonymous No.6486865]

>>6486852
nice one https://twitter.com/rakugaki100page/status/636884503173005313/photo/2

[Anonymous No.6486868]

Really wish mods would do something about this guy but reporting them doesn't work

[Anonymous No.6486898]

>>6486852
>>6486865
>ask shittalker to post his work
>he doesn't post his work
Every time.

[Anonymous No.6486899]

>>6486852
That's not your work. Also, even if it was, her arms are swollen. If you can supposedly see the problem with anon's drawing then it should only take you a couple minutes to "fix" the "issue". Go on, we're waiting.

[Anonymous No.6486903]

I'm almost sure shittalker is the same person who posted that arknight tits he grabbed from twitter

[Anonymous No.6486905]

>>6486899
Not only that, but the line quality isn't good at all. It's chicken scratchy as hell.
I mean, it's clearly not /beg/, but it's not a master work either

[Anonymous No.6486907]

>>6486903
Actually no, the arknight tits guy was me. I asked the other anon for what he saw wrong with the eye because I showed to other artist friends with larger followings and they said it was fine.

[Anonymous No.6486908]

>>6486907
but did you drew it?

[Anonymous No.6486909]

>>6486905
I actually follow that artist, he does much better work from when he's posted those practices. It has a lot of issues, but the artist is actually good now. Not sure why he'd grab one of his old sketches instead of his newer works.

[Anonymous No.6486914]

>>6486913
>>6486913
>>6486913
Whenever you want, move along

[Anonymous No.6487037]

1. Critique my childish scribbles
2. Redraw in your style

[Anonymous No.6487085]

>>6485480
Pedo

[Anonymous No.6487092]

>>6487085
BOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.6487513]

Any advice?
I just draw faces.

[Anonymous No.6488498]

>>6487513
>Any advice
Stop doing what you're doing and learn to draw faces.

[Anonymous No.6489060]

>>6486520
Yes, but extremely accurately. There's a method to it etc. Amazing way to learn, but it's like pure brute forcing it and it's very grindy and hard