Are you using the theory of Gestalt in your art Anon?

[Anonymous No.6887304]

No I don’t mean the optic illusion shit.

The whole is more than the sum of its parts is literally the whole idea behind gesture drawing.

[Anonymous No.6887312]

I gestalted in your moms vagina lol

[Anonymous No.6887348]

>>6887312
NGMI

[Anonymous No.6887365]

I pity whoever tries to "apply gestalt" as a conscious thing in his works.

Please, understand: theory is meant to explain why something looks good, not a way to make it look good.

[Anonymous No.6887369]

I'm literally a professional artist and I don't even know what Gestalt is.

[Anonymous No.6887413]

>>6887365
This. Visual theory is meant to explain to the pencil pushers why the design is good and they need to shut the fuck up about petty changes they don't even want in the first place.

[Anonymous No.6887463]

>>6887369
>literally
You aren't exactly setting a very high bar in erudition here.

[Anonymous No.6887484]

>>6887304
please show some examples of artists deliberately using the theory of gestalt in their art. better be good or I'm not gonna use it, simple as.

[Anonymous No.6887507]

>>6887369
I think OP means to remind people to take a step back and to not get lost on details and other insignificances.

That's all.

[Anonymous No.6887525]

>>6887507
I think OP doesn't know what gestalt means and is just looking for one more theory rabbit hole to spend a year researching so they never get to actually just fucking draw.

[Anonymous No.6887528]

>>6887525
I think OP has an understanding of 'gestalt' but is indeed one of those motherfuckers that looks for theory rabbit holes and never actually gets anything off the ground.

I think OP is just like how you described him and I think he's unskilled.

[Anonymous No.6887541]

>>6887484
dave mckean

[Anonymous No.6887543]

I dont understand why this board, as autistic as it is when it comes to theoretical concepts like fundies and whatnot, is so openly hostile towards graphic design fundamentals such as these.
You can easily apply your understanding of Gesalt theories and other graphic design concepts into your art works because at the end they are fulfill the same purpose of communication through visual mediums, hey are no different than your regular art fundies, some even overlap.
Seriously, why are you guys so allergic to graphic design?

>>6887365
What you're saying essentially boils down to semantics. Theory is meant to explain why something looks good as opposed to being an objective way to make something look good; that is true, but making the conscious effort to apply these theories into your works (when applicable) in a way that functions for the whole piece only results in it being more visually appealing and better at conveying whatever the message is supposed to be. So I dont understand why you paint it as a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.6887548]

>>6887348
No, he was saying he already made it into your mum's vag.
Pretty sure we're all GMI.

[Anonymous No.6887551]

>>6887543
Graphic design won't make the anime tidd bigger and sexier, also most "art" teachers are massive plebeians with extremely narrow tastes, so they don't teach a multidiscplinary with visual thinking as a fundamental, if they're aware of these principles in the first place (unlikely)

[Anonymous No.6887561]

>>6887541
looks cool but confusing.

[Anonymous No.6887567]

>>6887561
Here's a finished illustration. McKean's a true artist.

[Anonymous No.6887570]

>>6887567
seems more of a graphic designer + artist

[Anonymous No.6887572]

>>6887543
>So I dont understand why you paint it as a bad thing.
When you see the word tick tock or the word nignog, you don't need to know what an ablaut duplication is in order to create* the sentence "I am tired of all this AI slipslop and the pooloos constantly dumpbumping it".

In fact, if you know the rules of ablaut duplication, you can only produce slipslop, as pooloos and dumpbump follow different rules of reduplication (rhyming/consonantal swappping in this case).

*Anyone with any command on English can create a pattern like this on the fly, given the correct context.
I had to give you an example sentence, and that's why I put an asterisk. I was consciously using the rule, instead of simply knowing English and using whatever tools are appropriate for a sentence, and because of that it took me a good while to come up with some decent example.

As I wrote "swapping", THEN it occurred to me naturally: I could have written swipswapping here!

In short, there is nothing bad with knowing these rules and analyzing stuff, but by thinking you should follow all these random Gestalt principles when doing your art, you will be crippling yourself.
You can learn all the grammar you want in a language, but you'll only get a feeling for it once you start to actually listen to it and reproduce what you've heard from others who are natives.

Such principles should be used as "tie-breakers" or in very specific points. You drew something using your intuition and something is not working well:
>Why is it? Are there any tangents in my drawing? - Oh, here it is! Let me work around it.
Now you're using rules in a non-bad way.

[Anonymous No.6887574]

>>6887570
That's what makes him so based. He's like Gogeta or something.

[Anonymous No.6887575]

>>6887507
Yeah this is exactly what I meant. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.6887578]

>>6887304
yeah

[Anonymous No.6887579]

>>6887574
he's more like perfect cell

[Anonymous No.6887581]

>>6887575
I think you're a woolly talkey faggy though but I agree with your important reminder. I usually give the same advice to people even though I'm dogshit.

For some reason people do ask me for advice and think highly of me often to my surprise.

[Anonymous No.6888708]

>>6887543
Graphic design is so braindead it's one of the most over-matriculated jobs on eart and still most graphic design is done by amateurs or adjacents like printers and marketers.

You can learn and internalize all visual communication principles in an afternoon. If you legit have to conciously think about it, or worse reference a book on it while working, you're legit subnormal IQ.

[Anonymous No.6888767]

>>6888708
We're not talking about designing brochures out of Behance for Orange County pet shops. We're talking about developing graphic imagination. It's not something you'll understand in an afternoon (lel), and not in a year, and you should treat it seriously. Knowing ABOUT something is not equal to knowing HOW to do it, or you wouldn't still struggle to draw hands despite your terabyte of hoarded textbooks covering the subject.

[Anonymous No.6888792]

>>6888767
Please say you didn't go into debt to study graphic design in 20 fucking 23.

[Anonymous No.6888796]

>>6888792
nigger intentionally misses the point

[Anonymous No.6888816]

>>6888796
What point? That we're wasting time here because you're substandard and need to purposefuly study shit that normal people internalize on the fly?

Nigger YOU CAN READ you already mastered the visual-gestalt process.

>>6887525 is right, you're just looking for one more trivial thing to waste years "studying" so you never get to actually fucking draw.

[Anonymous No.6888823]

>>6888816
Please do share your work! I'd love to see your sick design skills. This board chronically struggles to make visually exciting images and thinks downloading another anatomy will unlock the secret to art. Who do you think you're fooling, pretending you're something you're not?

[Anonymous No.6888897]

>>6888823
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[Anonymous No.6888900]

>>6888823
post your gestart

[Anonymous No.6888903]

>>6887567
>>6887574
great inspo, anon. thanx for posting.

[Anonymous No.6888919]

>>6888767
you're spot on anon. When checking out art online the stuff with a strong graphic sense is what stands out. And it will be a differentiating factor as the robots gobble up & regurgitate all that ArtStation render-shit (which I was never a fan of anyway). Highly graphic art is full of intent & imagination & yes, it takes time to develop.

[Anonymous No.6889072]

>>6887304
retarded modern art school midwit bullshit

[Anonymous No.6889083]

>>6888919
Do you or anyone else have a guide or advice on how to develop a strong graphic sense? What fundamentals should i learn? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.6889095]

>>6887304
Yeah its a pretty good game

[Anonymous No.6889126]

>>6889083
You do the fundamentals and look and copy artists you like.
It's about exaggeration of shapes.

[Anonymous No.6890198]

>>6889126
That's quite vague.

[Anonymous No.6890326]

>>6890198
it's already a vague concept.

[Anonymous No.6890327]

>>6890198
Almost like they don't actually know what they're talking about?

Read this book.

[Anonymous No.6891906]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.6891935]

>>6887304
Never heard of it before, but that image is so shit that I will from now on refuse to use it on purpose.

>>6887312
>he fell for the Venusian flytrap
NGMI