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Also, if ShKanon were true, every single adult would have to know about it. So they could lie about finding the corpses in separate places in Ep 3.

Additionally, Virgilia, who was brought in to help Battler, would have to have lied during her reconstruction of the crime scene in that episode. Although, Knox rule 2 denies using that as evidence.

>>4037273

Why would there be 'a key for each servant' in the first place, if they had only one body?

>>4037253

There are various problems that slowly cause an intensely painful death in that case, I've heard. She could have lived for a while, though.

>>4037245

That doesn't make sense, either. A master key can be used to open any door in the house. Having two is no better than having one, so there's no reason to carry around two.

'There are five, one for each servant.'

This is in regards to the master keys, right? Why would a hypothetical ShKanon need two?

>>4029296

When has she done anything like thaaaaaat? Beato's very trustworthy, you know.

>>4029187

Beato, who knew the truth, considered them two separate people, though.

Therefore, we should examine the Ep 6 red, not the previous ones.

>>4029139

Replace it with DID, then.

>>4029143

I mean, where was Shannon when Jessica was being killed? I remember Kumasawa and Gohda being suspected for it...

>>4029126

It still doesn't matter to the detective, unless they're going for the 'why dunnit' part. A detective will always consider the body the thing that committed the crime, not the personality.

>>4029105

I'm just trying not to use the phrase 'MPD'. Replace hypnosis with whatever you want, as long as it works the same.

>>4029089

Where was Shannon during those murders, exactly? If I were a culprit, I'd think that Kanon's missing corpse would put more suspicion on him than on me, right?

>>4029070

'I think differently, but I already thought before, although I don't know about that', more like.

>>4029056

What, that's a common theory.

And Kyrie wasn't necessarily dead.

>>4029050

....because it's really easy to explain, and could have been done by Gohda or Jessica in 2, and almost anyone in 4.

>>4029031

You won't explain it to me? I don't think anything I've heard about self-perception can make one person into two people.

>>4029012

Kanon's body in 2 and 4 doesn't really require explanation. Thrown out the window or hidden by the culprit.

Nanjo was killed by Kyrie, or Beatrice who entered the island later.

Beatrice entered the island at the end of Ep 1.

>>4028993

I'd like to hear how it's different.

>>4028976

>If Shannon accepts George proposal, she will never go back to Rokkenjima and will separate from Kannon (implied forever).

Shannon accepted it in Ep 1, and Kanon still appeared after that.

>>4028928

It's not a loophole at all. If they're the same person, it's a disguise. If they aren't the same person, then they violate the person number limit in various red.

MPD isn't any different from the hypnosis I described. If I suddenly gained another personality and made myself look like someone else, it'd still be a disguise. Even if I didn't know it was happening.

>>4028860

What, do you mean the fourth? This is just an example that replaces MPD with hypnosis, to put it into perspective.

>>4028839

In a mystery, a detective will never see inside a person's head. You can't say two people look like different people, but aren't in disguise because they don't think they are. Especially without clues.

>>4028760

In that case, did Erika ever have a POV?

>>4028725

Let's say that there's some method of hypnosis that allows a person to think that he's someone else.

Additionally, let's say that person Z knows this method of hypnosis, and uses it on person X, making him believe he's person Y.

As person Y, he commits a crime, dressed as person Y, and believing he's person Y. Afterwards, the hypnosis is reversed, and person X has no memory of the hypnosis or the crime.

Who dunnit? Would you say person Y did it? Person Y doesn't really exist, so can you say that he was a separate person, who committed the crime? Would a detective say 'person Y did it', or 'person X, thinking he was some imaginary person Y, disguised as this person Y, did it'?

>>4028696

That seems odd. What about in Kinzo's study? During that Natsuhi persecution scene?

>>4028685

Erika's the detective, though. If she saw them together, they were together. Battler's POV shouldn't be related to that at all...

>>4028657

You stopped thinki-...

>>4028662

What? I'm saying that if they're separate people in the same body, then two out of the three personalities are in disguise.