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Rin was the best character in F/SN
Of course the parts that were from her perspective are also the best

Knew this shit was too good to be true

oh wow its late

but it is type-moon anyways so go with it or sage/hide

Doesn't even need to climb the ladder
What a badass

Thoughts on 2nd ep /a/?

Story is still up in the air and camera team shows itself yet again to be the most likely bane of the show

Buy a katana

the music that matches that expression is the best

>>2929216

In speculation fair enough

However keep in mind that the magic circle on the garden shed serves the purpose of hinting to where the bodies were. Without it the shed may have not been checked till much later. In comparison the shed is much more planned out than the door.

>>2929191

That makes a little sense when you list Eva as one of the culprits, but "just to fuck with her" seems like weak motivation for doing unnecessary things during a murder. The whole nature of the door scenario is that doesn't make sense to do it only to freak out Natsuhi. The only plausible motivation for someone to go through the trouble is to atribute the bloody mess to the witch and they would need to know about the pendant to plan that.

>>2929059

I could not quickly find the 2nd door scene so I think that's it for that theory tonight. When I get to it I'll review and make some changes based on these posts and the 2nd scene. This is such a minor detail that it has to be important.
Thanks everyone for your critiques/opinions

>>2929083

I wonder if it is a coincidence that we first meet Kasumi in a route where her plan, for the greater part, failed. If it were a continuum from the 1st or 2nd games Kasumi would have gotten the money while Ange was still a minor.

>>2929059

I only thought of this while going through my first replay so I haven't revisited what happens regarding the door in ep2. I'm going to go check, but does anyone know if there is anything important said there? Helps if anyone knows what scene it's closest to as well.

>>2929000

The narration only shows Genji and Natsuhi, furthermore I don't believe the incident is ever even mentioned to anyone else. The scene seems to have so little effect, but Ryukishi07 is a follower of Cherkov's Gun than it must have some significance...

>>2928971

Yeah, for some reason I thought there was a picture of the door but there is not. The Krauss counter theory is pretty interesting.

The door is locked as Genji has to use his key to open it.
Though if someone could gain access to the room that would eliminate the 3rd requirement...

>>2928945

Speculation on top of speculation but...

It is unlikely that either Jessica or Natushi are walking around brandishing a cheap scorpion charm. If they were walking around with it the would likely keep it in a pocket or out of immediate vision. It is possible that at anytime a servant was monitoring Jessica and Natsuhi, however because Jessica only tells Natsuhi "I think it is supposed to go on your door" In order for this to work Shannon would need to report the effects of the pendant. This sits ok when assuming that all the servants are working together, but Genji is obviously not cooperating when he suggests that he clean up the mess and does so without significant delay. Doesn't it seem weird for Shanon to be cooperating while Genji isn't?

>>2928921

And they only cleaned up the Blood that he left behind on the door? The amount of blood on the door implies that he would have to be bleeding profusely, it would be everywhere. I'll look for the CG for evidence.

Continued...

When the door is found in the morning the only people to see it, and the only people to ever be told of it, are Natsuhi and Genji. Natushi acts surprised when she sees the mess and does not stop Genji when he says that he will clean it up shortly. The big point is that Natushi could have easily said “No Genji, save this for later. Finding our guests is more important.” The only point in painting the door would be to have people see it and further convince them that the witch exists. Natushi lets the opportunity of more than her and Genji seeing the mess slide and thus didn’t care if anyone else saw it. That means that the only worth of the painting would be for Natushi to convince Genji that she did not do it, a result that is hardly worth the effort as Genji would never suspect her anyway.
Conclusion – Only Jessica and Natushi knew both that the Charm was on Natsuhi’s door and that the Charm would prevent anyone from entering. Natushi does not use the mess to her advantage where it obviously could be, therefore Jessica made the mess on Natsuhi’s door.

1st Game - Morning of the First Twilight - What is the significance of the mess on Natsuhi's door?
For those that have no read in a while, the magic explanation is that something tried to get into Natsuhi's room to select her as one of the first sacrifices but failed due to the scorpion charm given to her by Jessica. From an anti-magic standpoint you could say that this is just another rouse by the killer to make it appear like a witch is behind the murders, however, when taking the narration as truth, this theory does not make sense.
In order to accurately predict the scenario the painter needs three segments of knowledge.

1 - That the Scorpion Charm was given to Jessica
2 - What effect the Charm has when placed on a door
3 - That the Charm was given by Jessica to Natsuhi

There are five people that immediately fulfill the first requirement, Jessica, George, Maria, Battler and Shannon. However, assuming that this information can be transferred very easily, this doesn’t narrow things down much.
The second requirement is the same as the first, but it is much less likely to be transferred in normal conversation. For example Battler wouldn’t include that much detail when telling his parents that he went to the beach, but Shannon may include that much when giving her report. This likely clears some of the family.
The third requirement is the lynch-pin. The narration shows that only Natushi and Jessica are aware of the interaction when the Charm changes hands. It is highly unlikely that Jessica would let anyone know about her sentimentalism and it is equally unlikely that Natsuhi would have time to tell anyone about something so trivial in the midst of the family conference. By this line of logic the only two people who have the knowledge required to paint the door are Natsuhi and Jessica...

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>>2925897

The Goats got me too, but what i was really dreading was if they imaged refocussed so that the goat head had a more detailed/gruesome face, that would have been awesome.

>>2925570

Ah i see, thanks

I heard rumors that Manga Gamer would be at Otakon for another panel, however that Otakon site doesn't list them anywhere, can anyone confirm this?

>>2920680

Beatrice is love

>>2920652

What a tweest!

Silly OP, you use Ciel to troll /jp/