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Old thread: >>10269309

Talk about Touhou and other STG's. Chat with fellow players, blog about your progress, plead for help on problematic spots, and so on.

>> No.10292012 [DELETED] 

DURRR VIDYA GAMES- I MEAN TOUHOU GENERAL XDD

>> No.10292009 [DELETED] 

first for hurt feelings

>> No.10292015 [DELETED] 

>>10292003
Touhou id so bad, I press te bomb button 1 min before get hit an stil die.

>> No.10292024

>>10292009
>>10292012
>>10292015
You 3 have already made this thread worse than what the old thread brought. The point of a new thread was to hopefully erase that portion of the discussion out of sight, and out of mind.

>> No.10292025 [DELETED] 

I cannot play my 2hu perfectly in GNU/Linux.

Why is Zun such a meanie, developing only for a restricted operating system?

>> No.10292171

So who else is going to play TH13 for the new year?
I'm not too fond of it but I'm willing to make an exception.

>> No.10292184

>>10292003
Was EoSD background always so empty?
>>10292171
Why would you play 13 specifically? It's not even its birthday.
I think Shoot the bullet is the only one that got released in December.

>> No.10292236

>>10292184
You probably played with the retexture patch that adds more detailed backgrounds among other things.

>> No.10292581

>>10292184
Maybe they meant 13.5?

>> No.10292650

/jp/ what are your STG goals for 2013?

>> No.10292660

Anybody get that bug in TH where your character just jams and starts going up or down and does so until you press that key again? It just started happening to me when i changed keyboards and it's annoying!

Could it be because i am using the key remapper program?

>> No.10292699

>>10292650
Just to beat Lunatic for now.

>> No.10292708

>>10292650
I can't say or else you might know who I am. :3

>> No.10292747

>>10292708
>:3
>>>/mal/
>>>/gaia/
>>>/facebook/
>>>/furaffinity/
>>>/deviantart/

>> No.10292770

I want to shoot my danmaku into your womb.

>> No.10292788

>>10292747
No need to show others the websites you like.

>> No.10292792

>>10292747
:3 and ;_; are /jp/-approved emoticons.

>> No.10292798

>>10292650
Start play Touhou.

>> No.10292809
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I can't believe that's not the spellcard I was stuck on.

>> No.10292821

>>10292792
No they aren't.

>> No.10292819

>>10292792
out. get out.

>> No.10292827

>>10292809
that one is so short it actually becomes assailable with luck alone. The original is definitely trickier.

>> No.10292910

>>10292650
To retire.

>> No.10293046

>>10292650
2.7B with every team + Youmu solo in IN extra.
5.6B with every team + Youmu solo in IN Lunatic.
Get grips with scoring in PCB.
Playing some other Touhou games more, except for UFO.

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10293337

Who has the most fun non spells? Personally I find Sakuya's to be extremely fun to dodge. Close second would be Yoshika

>> No.10293342

>>10292650

2B IN hard
1cc IN, EoSD lunatic

>> No.10293358

>>10292650
To actually become good at these games. Very unlikely.

I just don't know where to start when it comes to actually improving. It feels like I'm making the same retarded mistakes.

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10293388

Hey guys, does anyone knows about any good scrolling shooter for Android 2.3.7 Gingerbread?

All I can find online is CAVE shooters that require Honycomb or greater and the only one I've found so far has been Magical Cannon Wars, which is pretty lame...

>> No.10293427

>>10293337
I have a lot of fun with mokous and sakuya's.

I hate reimus though, more than I can put into words.

>> No.10293443

>>10293358
Depends on your definition of good.

I'm terrible (working up from hard to lunatic on TD Sanae, still haven't beaten UFO on normal) but the way I got through normal and hard TD was through practicing against specific spell cards that were fucking up my runs consistently. Died to that more than random fairies which are usually about memorization I think. I watched a few 1cc lunatic runs on youtube to get a feel for how skilled players handle spells--in a lot of cases I was doing it hella inefficiently and making it harder on myself than it needed to be, or missing a really obvious safe area which would allow me to get through without bombs.

For the spells that just require precise movements and good grazing I guess it just takes pattern memorization and practice until you build up that precision. I know one that's still giving me trouble is Kogasa's lunatic umbrella cyclone, just can't get a feel for it.

Also I think good decision making is important, like I have a hard time deciding whether to bomb through difficult cards or try to survive. It's nice when it pays off and I save a bomb but sometimes I feel like ragequitting when I die to stupid shit.

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>>10293388
>Android 2.3.7 Gingerbread
not sure why I laughed.

also, how the fuck do I do Momiji's midboss spell in MoF on lunatic?

>> No.10293447

>>10292650
1cc SA normal, either patchy or alice

>> No.10293457

>>10293337
Meiling and Mokou.

>> No.10293462

>>10292650
Beat Marisa

>> No.10293460

Good game to start play Touhou?

>> No.10293483

>>10293450
You press the X key.

>> No.10293494

>>10293443
Come on man. Normal and even hard UFO are easy. I don't even like UFO, the only time I play it is when I'm trying to 1cc it on each respective mode. Took me about 3 hours of practice to 1cc normal, then 2 days for hard.
TD Normal took me like 4 days. I'm about to work on hard then upto lunatic I go.

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>>10293460
Imperishable Night, which is the easiest of the series. Trust me, with Touhou, it's good to start from the easiest game. It took me an entire year to clear Imperishable's Easy.

Now, granted, I suck hard at videogames so maybe it'll take you shorter, and some people even prefer to start off from Normal. It depends mostly on your fine motor skills, fast decision making and eye-hand coordination in general.

>> No.10293504

>>10293491
IN isn't the easiest unless you're starting with 7 lives.

>> No.10293506

>>10292184
>2013
>Not playing Touhou 13

>> No.10293524

>>10293491
Thanks :3
>I suck hard at videogames so maybe it'll take you shorter

I don't think so, Touhou would be my first real game (never played one gravely).

>> No.10293557

>>10293494
Giving UFO a try on normal, I guess it's been a while or I was half asleep last time I tried, it isn't feeling too bad. I think I was getting rocked pretty hard by Ichirin, maybe I was running it on hard mode or some shit idk.

>> No.10293576

>>10293557
UFO isn't as difficult as people make it out to be. UFO is the most generous Touhou game when it comes to resources. All you have to do is plan a red and green only UFO route. If you don't feel like planning, just go for red UFOs only and you'll manage on any difficulty. You need to face the game with a positive outlook.

>> No.10293582

>>10293491
It's actually better to start with harder games, I hear. You improve a lot faster, even if you do game over five minutes into the game each time.

Or at least that's what a friend told me.

>> No.10293593

UFO Hard mode is rape if you just go into it without prior knowledge of the how and where the UFOs spawn. UFO is more about memorizing the best route than actually dodging bullets.

TD is pretty easy, so easy in fact that I got to Futo on Lunatic within my first 5 tries (after beating Normal). After that, it's again MEMORIZING the best spots to trance, not about dodging bullets.

Man, I wish ZUN would make games about dodging bullets again.

>> No.10293606

>>10293593
Next game will be a Phantasmagoria. I can feel it in my bones.

>> No.10293612

>>10292650

1cc TH6-13 on Hard...

Maybe except 9...

>> No.10293617
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>>10293606
One can hope.

I love the Phantasmagoria games. Seihou one is great. Dunno why, but PoFV felt a bit bland to me unless I was playing on Ultra. Still fun.

>> No.10293638

>>10293582
i started with ufo lunatic. i can't even 1cc eosd on normal. i've been playing for a year. it depends on the player.

>> No.10293696

>>10293638
How do you practice? Because usually, if one can play a game on Lunatic and do decently enough, they can blow up a game on Normal. The only time I've never seen them not be able to do this is when they do nothing but Stage Practice and memorize everything in the game. In which case, they aren't building much skill at all.

>> No.10293699

>>10293617

>Touhou14C82Trial.png

sauce, pl0x

>> No.10293711

It's funny. Checking over my normal 1cc replays now, I can only laugh at how bad I was back then. Danmaku closing in at the slowest speed ever. Gaps everywhere, and I'd just bomb for nothing.

I wonder if I'll look back at my hard mode 1cc's and think the same thing, once I move upto lunatic and get properly adjusted that is.

>> No.10293767

>>10292650
LNBNT TD
1-ALL some CAVE games
Lunatic 1CC GFW, Th1-5 and fighting games.

>> No.10293845

>>10293699
That filename was a joke, but if you really want the game in the picture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FIMUtbGN7A just read through the description. I'm still lazy, so I don't feel like explaining anything.

>>10293767
If you already have Lunatic 1ccs, 1-ALLing any CAVE game should be nothing for you. Chaining, on the other hand...

>> No.10293929

>>10293483
oh

>> No.10293976

>>10293557
Made it to the final card of stage 5, definitely feel better about it than I did before. 5 looks like a bitch on lunatic, watched a playthrough a while ago. Is Sanae B better than her A? I feel like the homing saves my ass during spell cards a lot of the time.

>>10293576
Yeah I guess I was just getting too comfortable wtih TD. If I'm just trying to survive is it best to always hold out for a red UFO or grab the occasional mixed/ green? Seems like a waste to ignore 4 non-cycling blues or greens.

>> No.10294095

>>10293976
Rainbow UFOs will drop two flashing tokens, so you will get more red tokens overall that way.

>> No.10294559

>>10293337
> Sakuya's
Probably mine too. Feels like you need raw dodging skills for them and no memorization at all.

>> No.10294876

>>10294559
The amount of memorization needed for some stuff in STGs is simply hilarious. I burst out laughing every time I see that guy on nicovideo stream Dai Ou Jou Death Label for the 10,000th time. It's really weird watching him play it and consistently do it the same exact way every time down to each pixel.

I wonder what drives him to play that and only that, rather than doing full runs. It seems like DL would get rather dull after awhile.

>> No.10294894

>>10294876
Because everything about cave games except the bosses is terrible.

>> No.10294990

>>10292650
6/6 LNBNV. ExNMNB of every game and some LNB runs.
>>10292660
That's common of USB keyboards. It can be switched by using a PS/2 port.
>>10293337
I like every spell in UFO. I also like Kanako's MoF boss fight and Alice in PCB. I'm also very fond of EoSD as a whole but its age sometimes gets in the way.
>>10293358
Everyone can improve.
>>10293443
>I'm terrible (working up from hard to lunatic on TD Sanae, still haven't beaten UFO on normal)
You call that terrible?
>>10293460
Try them all and pick the ones you like best.
>>10293711
That's just how I felt as I saw myself improve. I think I still have a quote of myself saying something like that when I first beat Hard mode.

>> No.10295409

>>10294990
Yep. Seems like pretty much everybody that posts in the shmup threads can clear most games on lunatic. Or at least it feels that way.

>> No.10295606

>>10294990
That's terrible compared to other people who call themselves terrible. Quite a few people I know hold world records or are the greatest at any given game they play(talented assholes) and still call themselves terrible. It never ceases to amaze me, really.

>> No.10295627

>>10295606
To call yourself anything other than terrible is to give up on improving.

>> No.10295629

>>10295606
Then why don't you do it as well and stop being fine with being a scrub.

>> No.10295687

>>10295606

You can still be relatively terrible. I had speed-run records in certain maps in a game that I used to play, I wasn't that good compared to the best people, I just got somewhat lucky..

>> No.10295809

Why is Miko's boss fight so boring? It just drags on and on and on and on. She's not even a challenge, which makes it even worse.

Worst stage 6 boss.

>> No.10295816

>>10295809
But...but...Guze Flash...Royal Clan...

>> No.10295835
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>>10295809
I find her to be one of the most difficult stage 6 bosses. Also I think she's fun to fight

>> No.10295864

>>10295835
She's even easier than Kaguya was.

>> No.10295874

>>10294990
what does the V from no ufo stand for?

>> No.10295883

>>10295864
Kaguya is not easy if you play IN the way it's meant to be.

>> No.10295997

I thought TD was supposed to be easy. I'm on hard mode and cannot seem to win this stage 2 boss without a bomb or two because her non spells are difficult as fuck. She's more difficult than Kogasa as far as I'm concerned. Stage 3 boss is also pretty hard. Infact the only boss I find easy is Futo. I honestly think if it wasn't for the trance system, and Futo being as easy as she is (she feels like a stage 2-3 boss. No exaggeration at all.) TD would be considered one of the harder games.

>> No.10296075

>>10295997
I feel like TD lunatic is harder than UFO.

>> No.10296167

>>10295409
I very much doubt it. People like to post about things they don't know about. Anyways, I could never call someone with those kinds of achievements terrible.
>>10295606
I agree. They can cut themselves and skill will come out instead of blood but they will tell you the most absurd and negative things about themselves. It's even worse when they accuse people of being egotistic for not participating in their orgy of self-loathing; the likes of which can make up 95% of the player base's skill in that particular game. It's like a cult. They are nice to you at first and want you to join their secret club, but then start treating you like trash and get angry when you tell them what they are.
>>10295627
I do not find that level of morosity to be a desirable characteristic in someone who wishes to take a video game seriously. I also do not care about a person's skill level as long as they have a desire to improve. I think that anybody can be as good as they want in anything as long as they are dedicated to it. I also find it very unnatural for a person to work for something and not have the desire to share it with someone else. I have never seen even the most lonesome of people do such a thing. I do wonder how long anybody here would play if it wasn't for the community, which is usually the primary factor in them ever deciding to leave the game in the first place.
>>10295874
The Japanese word for UFO token. It means NUFO.
>>10295997
>I thought TD was supposed to be easy.
I think that you are taking these threads too seriously.
>I'm on hard mode and cannot seem to win this stage 2 boss without a bomb or two because her non spells are difficult as fuck.
I find her spellcards to be the worst. Her nonspells are just gimmicky.
>Stage 3 boss is also pretty hard.
What do you find hard about her? The only thing I can see that could trip someone up is not knowing the trick for the first spell and having to deal with the awkward dodging in the last spell.

>> No.10296186

>>10296167
they get mad when you call them crazy cultists instead of abiding by their social conventions

>> No.10296201

I'm currently playing IN on Hard (Which is dumb since I haven't even beaten it on Normal), and Keine is the first place I have some kind of trouble, is there a trick to her attacks?
I've found that going outside of between the columns helps, but the knives and balls spell is killing me

>> No.10296213

>>10296167
Yoshi's non spells are what give me a bit of trouble.
This is the last of the games I have to beat on hard, it's also the one that's giving me the most trouble.
To be honest, I think I know what the problem is. I'm not using trance....I cannot ever remember to use it, and since I dislike the trance system, I really don't want to have to.

>> No.10296228

>>10296213
How does the Trance system work anyway?
Is it like Borders in PCB?

>> No.10296232

>>10296213
Also to add to this. I dunno whats with this game but I blame the background for most of my deaths. There I am just minding my own business, dodging danmaku when suddenly I'll just die and have no clue what hit me. Maybe my eyes just haven't adjusted, but I never had this problem with the other games

>> No.10296231

>>10296201
Do you mean her second to last spell card? That one is actually harder on hard than it is on lunatic. It becomes easier if you move slightly up and in the opposite direction of the knives so that they pass you by completely.

>> No.10296235

>>10296228
The meter fills when you collect spirits, so kind of. It's just that you need to activate it manually with C or else it only activates when you get hit.

>> No.10296238

>>10296231
I think that's the one, yeah. How is it harder on Hard? More random?

>> No.10296244

>>10296231
That spellcard is super fun, but it's actually pretty easy once you figure out how it works, if it's the spellcard I'm thinking of, with the red and blue knives + the bubble danmaku.

>> No.10296266

>>10296238
On that spellcard normal and hard have the same pattern, with hard having more bullets. While easy and lunatic have the same pattern with lunatic having more bullets. It's just that the easy/lunatic version of it is pitifully easy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvP2xX-DsWc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGUKLPh3jwA

>> No.10296269

>>10296167
>I do not find that level of morosity to be a desirable characteristic in someone who wishes to take a video game seriously

Cool I guess? I treated SC2 and hisoutensoku the same way as when I played them seriously. I don't feel like it's detrimental to my improvement to be overly critical of my play until proven otherwise. When I'm shit, there's ALWAYS something to improve on. Timings, build orders, micro, macro, game sense, combos, blockstrings, matchups--always something to fix.

>I also find it very unnatural for a person to work for something and not have the desire to share it with someone else

Doesn't stop me from being open about it. I played literally some of the best active hisoutensoku players to get critique on my play, discussed plenty of replays with master league SC2 players.

>> No.10296271

>>10296238
I suck at explaining...I could make a replay for you if you want, if you think it'll help. Basically though, I just watch the knives coming in from the side mainly, with my peripheral vision keeping an eye on the bubbles coming down.
Took me a while to get used to it at first, but again I find it easy now. Can do it almost 100% of the time.

>> No.10296277

>>10296232
That's one thing with TD's stage design. Enemies can spawn on top of you if you're not careful.

>> No.10296432

Apollo 13 is impossible.

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>>10296266
>lunatic version of it is pitifully easy.
Too dull, too easy? Then do it the fun way.

>> No.10296834

Streaming some SA LNB: http://www.twitch.tv/rizth

>> No.10297520

>>10296167
>The Japanese word for UFO token. It means NUFO
I got that I meant what's the word

>> No.10297544

>>10292650
1ccing mof

>> No.10297548

>>10296528
Nice highscore dude.

>> No.10297549

>>10292650
Finally 1cc every game and move onto playing for score.

>> No.10297559

>>10296432
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=26048
The safespot is much harder. Don't use it.

>> No.10297574

>>10297520
Oh, sorry, it's ヴェントラ(ventora), usually written as ベントラ(bentora)。You will rarely see it spelled as ヴェントラ, but the acronym remains. I think this is because Japan doesn't like the ヴェ sound. I'm not quite sure. I was actually wondering where this word came from myself. I can't find it in any dictionary, but it's standard terminology on Japanese scoreboards.

>> No.10297591

>>10296167
>they accuse people of being egotistic for not participating in their orgy of self-loathing
I've never accused you of egoism since you aren't a piece of self-loathing shit like I am. However, I've accused you of egoism since you seem to constantly attention-whore in the threads, posting in-necessary replies to posts that have already been answered to. Since you use tripcode and constantly post in the threads in it. Since you tend to call yourself out as a better player than you actually are. You're nothing but a mediocre player in anything but UFO survival, and you will remain as one unless you leave your safe-zone and start putting some serious effort in the other things, like scoring in the other games.

Nobody asked you to become a self-depreciating person. I'm happy for you if you don't have to deal with the constant pain of such personality, but I'll keep calling you an egoist if you act like one.

>> No.10297639

>>10295687
Sometimes, I hit rails in Quake 3 for an entire day. Rail after rail. And then the next day, I can't hit a damn thing. Wonderful, great, fantastic! Really makes me feel like everything I do is just the result of being really lucky.

>>10297549
Why not just begin with playing for score? There's no point in having to relearn the entire game all over again.

>>10297591
Riz really should put some time into score running. It makes you feel like such a badass when you reach a score that nobody else has reached before.

>> No.10297670

>>10297639
Because playing for survival is more fun than playing for score. I don't get a buzz out of being better at pushing buttons than other people. Some of the scoring systems are too interesting to not give a try though.

>> No.10297720

Please stream, /jp/

>> No.10297742 [DELETED] 

>>10296167
>I agree. They can cut themselves and skill will come out instead of blood but they will tell you the most absurd and negative things about themselves. It's like a cult. They are nice to you at first and want you to join their secret club, but then start treating you like trash and get angry when you tell them what they are.
You're a relatively flashy person. Your completely normal, creative, proactive, networking and social middle class behavior is virtuous but makes little sense in a video game community. We're not exactly trying to form business relations - STGs aren't even team games - so there's no need to systematically display yourself in great detail time after time. This is how the average complaining person sees the situation.

>It's even worse when they accuse people of being egotistic for not participating in their orgy of self-loathing
Unlike you're implying, I'm pretty sure that inaction is not the cause of their annoyance.

>I also find it very unnatural for a person to work for something and not have the desire to share it with someone else.
There's the magical w-word.

>I do wonder how long anybody here would play if it wasn't for the community, which is usually the primary factor in them ever deciding to leave the game in the first place.
Usually. When and how did you find /jp/? As you may have noticed, this is an odd place. I wouldn't expect a great deal of extroversion from a guy who plays STGs and especially Touhou in his twenties. It's about as kimoi ota as it gets. VNs at least are narratives of human interaction.

>> No.10297752

>>10297742
>I wouldn't expect a great deal of extroversion from a guy who plays STGs and especially Touhou in his twenties.

Riz isn't in his twenties yet!

>> No.10297756

>>10297670

Thank god I'm not the only person going for survival runs...

>> No.10297758 [DELETED] 

>>10297752
Well, that would explain much of the friction.

>> No.10297779

>>10297670
The only game I've ever played for score is DoDonPachi.

And I hated it. Having to study superplays and endlessly grind stages isn't exactly my idea of fun. But maybe it's different for Touhou, I dunno.

>> No.10297787

>>10297779
DoDonPachi isn't very good for score. Fuck chaining.

>> No.10297843

>>10297591
I should tell you that I wasn't talking about any person in particular. I was talking about a certain attitude that goes along with the STG community. Actually, I think that I was somewhat upset when I was writing that post. It's a little harsh for my standards, but I'm not upset at any people. I'm going to have to use the old and worn-out excuse that I am planning on adopting scoring goals once I am done with my survival ones. Even so, I wouldn't mind competing with a player if they ask for it. I find myself being challenged to race for a specific goal occasionally and I find it very enjoyable. I'm just not currently in the mood to match replays that already exist and kick people off scoreboards. I think that I am doing well for the time that I have played, but I have not yet had the chance to do everything that I have wanted in this game.
>>10297670
>Because playing for survival is more fun than playing for score.
That depends a lot on the game and the player, in my opinion.
>>10297742
I don't think that I should write up a response here since the post is deleted. If you would like to talk, you can find me outside of 4Chan.
>>10297779
>Having to study superplays and endlessly grind stages isn't exactly my idea of fun.
This is going to be every game for you unless you genuinely enjoy learning about it and playing it.

>> No.10297867

http://livestream.com/seppostream
Things

>> No.10297880

>>10297843
Well, yeah, I was just talking for myself. Something like Dangun Feveron is terrible if you're not playing for score.

>> No.10297916

>>10297779
Play a game that doesn't involve chaining then.

>> No.10297920

Astebreed trial where

>> No.10297963

>>10297843
>I don't think that I should write up a response here since the post is deleted. If you would like to talk, you can find me outside of 4Chan.
The janitor had to ban me for pastabombing the "NEET Retirement plan" thread before he could delete it. Consequently, all of my proper posts got deleted too. Now it's impossible for you to reply to me because that would be replying to a ban evader, and you can't afford it because you use a tripcode. Convenient.

>> No.10298041

>>10297843
And what am I supposed to do if said game has no superplays, or even stage practice?

>> No.10298072

>>10298041
Then l2p by yourself like the pros.

>> No.10298097

>>10298072
all the best scorers are constantly watching each other.

>> No.10298136

>>10298041
stage practice isn't important, you should be doing full runs anyway to gain consistency & to optimize earlier parts.
what game are you thinking of? there are superplays or strategy guides out there for almost everything, you might just be looking in the wrong place.

>> No.10298209

>>10298097
They watch other people play, but they still figure out all of the tricks on their own instead of mimicking every move the top player makes.

>> No.10298235

Anyone have a replay of Futo's last card or overdrive that the player get into the center and capture the card without moving ?

>> No.10298237

>>10298209
They figure out one trick on their own and learn everything else from other people, who also figure out one trick. I wouldn't be surprised if the people with the highest scores never figured out anything new and just peeked over the shoulders of others.

>> No.10298335

>>10297591
I don't see the problem with him wanting to master one game, rather than being a jack of all trades, master of none.
Scoring isn't the be all end all of Touhou as well. It's the one thing I refuse to learn, because I find no enjoyment in doing it.
This is why I hate the vast majority of score runners. They can only see things from their perspective and don't give a shit about anybody elses. What's that you did this and that hard challenge in the game? You're still shit because you don't play for score.
Uh huh.

>> No.10298357

>>10298136
I haven't seen many superplays of the Seihou games. Except for a few kusoplays on youtube of some people just barely scraping by with a 1cc.

As for Stage Practice, I feel like it burns me out really fast on the game. But at the same time, playing the first few stages over and over again not only feels counterproductive, but also burns me out.

>> No.10298372

>>10298335
Depreciating others' accomplishments only makes that person a jerk. Not everyone who plays for score thinks that way.

>> No.10298403

>>10298335
you're showing the same attitude towards score runners that you're complaining about them for, there are close minded assholes on both sides, but there are players on both sides that can respect the other, they're the ones you should pay attention to while just ignoring the assholes.

>> No.10298416

Is there any worse scoring system than Ikaruga?

It's impressive to watch superplays, but come the fuck on.

>> No.10298425

>>10298416
No, there isn't.

>> No.10298478

>>10298416
What's wrong with Ikaruga's scoring system?

>> No.10298491

>>10298478

You don't think it's ridiculous that there is one exact route you have to follow the entire game for maximum points?

If anything, it was more lazy than anything on the developers part.

>> No.10298501

>>10298478
Scoring in Ikaruga is like speed-running Portal.

>> No.10298512

>>10298491
there's one exact route to take in any game to get "MAXIMUM" points

>> No.10298517

My godness, I just gave Exceed 3rd a shot and what an amazing game. I love how fluid it feels.

>> No.10298519

>>10298512
You know what he means though.

>> No.10298875

Ikaruga's scoring system is 10x better than Dodonpachi's and Daioujou's.

>> No.10298984

I wonder if Akashicverse has an Alternative mode like on that one demo. That mode is so boss, damn. The music makes it even better.

>> No.10299276

Typical. Playing EoSD hard and I end up perfecting patchouli on my worst run ever.
Why does that never happen when I have like 6 lives at that point.

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>>10293388
You might like this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sorais.bakastg
Its a touhou game. A new boss (Sanae) was added in todays update.

These are similar games:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jakiganicsystems.danmakudeath
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.hasu.roku_shoot2

>> No.10299723

Please stream /jp/

>> No.10299745

>>10299282
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sorais.bakastg

Danmaku Death so good.

>> No.10299915

>>10299723

twitch.tv/eldestructoe

>> No.10299996

I will stream in due time. I'm too bad to be entertaining right now, I imagine.

>> No.10300012

does anyone have experience streaming with linux?

>> No.10300597

>>10297963
Cool story, bro.
>>10298041
If nobody plays the game then you can easily be the best in it!
>>10298235
I am surprised that I can't find any, but I know they exist because I've seen them before. I'm sure that someone has such a replay.
>>10299996
You can be entertaining from the day you start. I was entertaining people before I could beat Normal mode.
>>10300012
I have tried but failed. I would love to see it done. The biggest problem is finding recording/encoding software, as well as finding a service to air it.

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>>10298235
I remember doing this myself shortly after the full game was released, but I don't know if I have the replay anymore. I'll have to look for it. I guess I could just do it again.

>> No.10300810

>>10300597
I dunno, I doubt people have the patience to watch me fail hard mode over and over.
Especially when there are quite alot of lunatic streamers.

>> No.10300845

>>10300810
Adamar no smurfing.

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>>10300628
As it turns out, it's really easy to get into the safespot. You just have to hope that cards don't kill you. Or just believe in Reimu's nonexistent hitbox.

Also, the replay archive breaks with Overdrive replays, which explains why I never uploaded my first one. I don't have it on my own computer, so it was probably just overwritten at some point.

>>10300810
/jp/ watches people that game over on Normal at Stage 2 over and over. Just saying.

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>>10300628
As it turns out, it's really easy to get into the safespot. You just have to hope that cards don't kill you. Or just believe in Reimu's nonexistent hitbox.

http://moriya.ca/threp/replay/th13_ud0014.rpy

Also, the replay archive breaks with Overdrive replays, which explains why I never uploaded my first one. I don't have it on my own computer, so it was probably just overwritten at some point.

>>10300810
/jp/ watches people that game over on Normal at Stage 2 over and over. Just saying.

>> No.10300914

>>10300869
Alright, I guess I'll give streaming a whirl tomorrow or something then.

>> No.10301337

It's very late Eurotime, how many are there here at this time that would watch a stream?

>> No.10301384

>>10301337
I can say from experience that there are plenty of people that would watch a stream at this time. Some people are already asking for one.

>> No.10301393

>>10301337
I would happily watch a stream right now.

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>>10301384
>>10301393
Guess I'll stream a bit then, I need something to keep me awake.

http://www.livestream.com/greenmiscreant
Gonna be a few moments

>> No.10301412

>>10301405
>http://www.livestream.com/greenmiscreant

Livestream? It's 2013 mate.

>> No.10301487

>>10301412
But twitch sucks ass.

>> No.10301728

why are you all so obsessed with watching streams when you could just play the games yourselves?

>> No.10301833

>>10301487
This nigga right here.

Kappa

>> No.10301842

>>10301728
Because I suck at the games and need someone to make fun of while I watch them suck, even though they're better than me.

>> No.10301912

>>10301728
Playing is too stressful

>> No.10302090

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=26187

Welp, just 1cc'd IN hard...again. Only this time I went to Kaguya despite having not practiced against her in a very very long time, and it shows...I couldn't even remember most of her spells. Pretty good run other than that awful last fight though.
I was only playing through while I tested my livestream.


Does anybody even care about hard mode 1cc's?

>> No.10302115

>>10293491
Lotus Land Story and Mystic Square are considerably easier than even Imperishable Night.

Of course, they also require you to set up a PC-98 emulator.

>> No.10302122

>>10302090
It's a personal achievement. Congratulations.

>> No.10302134

>>10301487
It does, but livestream sucks ass even more.

>> No.10302173

any tips for playing as youmu in IN? Right now the ghost is hitting nothing about 90% of the time

>> No.10302203

>>10302173
I don't really have any other tip than to learn how to control it. It will take some practice but once you get used to it, you'll never want to go back. Until then, those who can't use it will find Youmu to be the hardest shot type. Those who can will find her to be the easiest.

>> No.10302240

asfsegtswegegerg
FUCK EOSD

>> No.10302254

>>10300845

How can I smurf when I don't trip or name?

More importantly, why would I care about that when I already spent two months streaming failing at normal over and over?

(No jokes allowed.)

>> No.10302285

I have a confession to make. I start all the SA vs UFO shitstorms

>> No.10302323

>>10302285
That's not true. I start them sometimes.

>> No.10302360

Why the fuck can I not bring myself to clicking to bomb button in eosd

>> No.10302407

Where can I download a bomb on death program? This is bullshit. Reaching Remi despite dying 6 times with no bombs used.
I refuse to be held back by something as artificial as not being able to click the bomb key in time.

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>>10302407
>I refuse to be held back by something as artificial as not being able to click the bomb key in time.
Yeah, and I refuse to be held back by something as artificial as not being able to dodge the bullets in time.

>> No.10302425

>>10302417
Unless you can no bomb run eosd, shut the fuck up.

>> No.10302450

>>10302407
>being this mad over your incompetent

>> No.10302492

>>10302450
I'm not mad though, I'm fucking furious.

>> No.10302552

>>10302425
Which difficulty?

>> No.10302555

>>10302552
eazy

>> No.10302558

>>10302555
Remi doesn't exist on Easy, 0/10 you're a retard

>> No.10302560

>>10302558
Trolled softly.

>> No.10302568

>>10302560
I said 0/10 because it was a clearly shitty attempt. Of course I knew you weren't the guy I asked.

>> No.10302575

>>10302552
Hard mode.

>> No.10302586

>>10302575
What are you playing for ?
Scoring: Learn to use bomb to get max score. Bombs are not free out of jail cards.
1cc survival: Stop using bombs like an amateur. Doing NB or pacifist run will improve your skill.

>> No.10302608

>>10302586
> Don't use bombs in a 1cc survival run.
Uh huh, great advice there.

Also my problem "is" with not using bombs.

>> No.10302612

>>10302586
Not using bombs or pacifying are challenge runs. Survival runs you use your resources to survive. Of course, challenge runs tend to have better survival.

>> No.10302660 [DELETED] 

>>10302575
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=6459
Eh, ended up at the last little bit of Scarlet Gensokyo and did something dumb. Most deaths were because I haven't played EoSD and/or Hard mode in a while. Please excuse the deathbomb on Meiling, went off on reflex. The silly deaths later on more than make up for it. Good enough?

>> No.10302663

>>10302575
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=26188
Eh, ended up at the last little bit of Scarlet Gensokyo and did something dumb. Most deaths were because I haven't played EoSD and/or Hard mode in a while. Please excuse the deathbomb on Meiling, went off on reflex. The silly deaths later on more than make up for it. Good enough?

>> No.10302670

>>10302608
No. Your problem is you're blaming the game for your failure. If you do a NB run, you can only blame yourself for your failure and start to improve.

>> No.10302696

I hope Zun gets cancer for eosd's stage 4.

>> No.10302777

>>10292650
Armed Police Batrider Normal Course 1cc and to be able to get to stage 5 in Ketsui consistently

>> No.10302783

>>10294894
Hi xoxak

>> No.10302794

If you are having trouble with bombs in EoSD or any of the Touhou games on the same engine then try the vsync patch. It reduces input delay.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications#Vsync_Patches

>> No.10302799

>>10302794
I'm using the vsync patch. They're still not going off when I click them

>> No.10302801

>>10302799
Buy a Cherry MX

>> No.10302802

>>10302799

Are you the guy that was crying this his bombs "had a delay" the other day?

>> No.10302808

>>10302801
got cherry mx reds with the keyboard plugged into the PS/2 port.


>>10302802
what, no?

>> No.10302818

Is there actually a delay on bombing in EoSD? There's been a lot of complaining about it recently...

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>>10292792

>> No.10302858

>>10302855
well that solves THAT mystery.

>> No.10302862

>>10292792
And :(
newfaggets i swear

>> No.10302897

>>10302855
Holy shit did that cat just eat an entire weird arrow.

>> No.10302925

http://livestream.com/seppostream/
Using livestream since I like both asses and sucking.

Listening to ebin HC satan /jp/radio since I'm xXxkiller00zZz etc. Remilia fingering flandre for 3min 21sec might make a guest appearance if you're lucky enough.

I'm not drunk.

>> No.10302929

>>10302925
Just insane

>> No.10302957

>>10302925
wat

>> No.10302959

>>10302818
The deathbomb window gets shorter for each time it is used, but I have never heard of there being an actual delay. The only exception would be input lag, but that's not directly relayed to bombing.

>> No.10303938

So, I just decided to get around to 1ccing EoSD on hard after hearing a few people complain about bomb lag. 1cc first try and experienced no such bomb delay. It's been a while so I was surprised. I died twice on stage 3 though. Hoorah...

>> No.10303975

stop being an autistic little shit. the so called bomb delay is all in your head. you suck at video games and you'll never improve. get the fuck out of here. i hate you and your family.

>> No.10304140

>>10303975
Calm down anon, it's all over.

>> No.10304575

>>10303975
he's forever free compared to us IRC gods lolol

>> No.10304593

>>10302777
Stage 5 in Ketsui? Why not aim for something higher, like seeing omote loop? :V

>> No.10304632

>>10303975
Numerous people have experienced the delay. If you google it, you'll see people talking about the delay there too. I feel the delay as well. It's easily noticeable.
Keep raging though, you little faggot.

>>10303938
If you 1cc'd it on your first try as you claim, then you're probably a lunatic player who doesn't need to bomb hard, therefore your experience on the matter is non existent.

>> No.10304633

>>10304593
Or the ultimate in survival play, the 2-Ura. Scoring actually becomes part of the game proper.

>> No.10304984

>>10303938
Stage 3 easiest stage

>> No.10305086

I finally played again after a few months. Man I got horrible. Better than I was when I started but those extras aren't exactly easy for me.

>> No.10305107

Would someone kindly stream?

>> No.10305127

>>10305107
http://www.twitch.tv/waahst/

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>>10305127
Thanks.

>> No.10305200

>>10305086
I'm clearing hard modes and still haven't done a single extra stage...

>> No.10305466

>>10305127
I would appreciate it if you didn't post my stream without asking me first, although I don't mind too much.

Thanks for coming to watch me choke on Yuyuko. Looks like I won't be getting 1.7b anytime soon...

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>>10305466
You'll get it sooner than expected! I believe in you!

>> No.10305989

Well I was going to stream today, but since I can barely make it past stage 2 for some reason right now, I think I'll pass.

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>>10305944
Thanks.

>> No.10306266

Streaming for a bit:
livestream.com/touhougameplay

>> No.10306322

So I can pretty much confirm EoSD has something wrong with it. The whole bomb delay thing? Yeh it's there. How do I know? Well apart from all the times it's got me killed, I just pressed it a moment ago when I thought I'd die. Guess what,I didn't die, but the bomb didn't go off until 1-2 seconds later.
How do you explain that?

>> No.10306337

>>10306322
You sucking at EoSD is giving you a rough time huh? Try to take it easy once in a while.

>> No.10306396

>>10306337
So you can't prove me wrong that there is no delay. Okay you can keep quiet now.

>> No.10306425

>>10306396
>So you can't prove me wrong that there is no delay.
If there is no delay, then what's the problem?

>> No.10306438

>>10306425
My English is not great, I figured you would ignore that and try prove me wrong, but I guess you're too immature for that.

>> No.10306454

>>10306438
If you didn't die then the bomb did work, the 2 second delay was just part of the animation.
Are you sure you tried the vsync patch though, you need to leave the executable name in japanese for it to work properly.

>> No.10306471

>>10306454
No. The spell ending the reason I never died. I wasn't looking at the lifebar, so I figured I'd bomb to avoid the death. Clicked bomb, spell ends, a second later bomb goes off.
Yes I am using the vpatch. 100% certain.

>> No.10306573

>>10306471
Which bomb? Reimu A?
Because Reimu A's bomb is supposed to work like that, it takes a while before it hits.

Try playing with a different shot type if you don't like it.

>> No.10306638

>>10306573
Marisa B.

>> No.10306711

>>10306322
You can easily confirm that the problem is not EoSD by itself, as most people don't have the problem. Also, proving that you aren't having delay isn't on us; you have to prove yourself that you are experiencing an actual delay. In most cases people complaining about things like this are just frustrated that they aren't executing movements as fast as they intend or misinterpret how close a bullet is and whatnot. Therefore, it's up to you to show that there is a delay on your end. The rest of us will keep thinking you're just doing it wrong until you show it.

First, have you experienced this in any other games? Any other Touhou games? Only EoSD? Have you tried using a different keyboard for a while, and if so does it still happen? The best way to show that there's a delay is by showing a video of your keypresses or something. But ideally you want to isolate exactly what's causing the problem rather than just trusting your setup and immediately blaming EoSD.

>> No.10306763

>>10306711
I guess you haven't been on here much. There has been plenty of people complaining about a delay in EoSD, so no it's not just me.
My keyboard is fine, and no I don't get the problem with any other game.
I'm not misinterpreting bullet distance either because it's happening constantly, not just once.
Reaction time has nothing to do with it either. Pressing the bomb button does not bomb immediately.

>> No.10306821

>>10306763
There was only one person that was complaining about a delay in EoSD recently and it was some kid that was screaming that the game is cheating him because he can't dodge bullets for shit. The solution? Dodge bullets better so you don't have to rely on bombs.

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>>10306821
the guy that 1cc'd eosd hard in a day without any prior stg experience can't dodge bullets for shit?
no offense but I doubt you could have done that good when you first started.

>> No.10306942

>>10306911
No wonder that a noob complained about the game for his failure.

>> No.10306949

>>10306821
I remember there being more than 1....

>> No.10306967

>>10306911
I highly doubt that was his first shmup from his replay.

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>>10306266

>> No.10307016
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The replays of ultra mode don't work, so I figured I'd have to bring out FRAPS just to record it. Now all of the sudden I can't record at 60fps anymore.

I'm running an intel quad-core at OC 4.15GHz, a video card good enough to play Battlefield 3 at it's highest without any FPS drops and I'm recording to an external drive. Does anybody have any helpful tips for FRAPS recording?

>> No.10307017

>>10306911
No need to desperately defend yourself, hotshot. Anyone watching his replay would clearly see that he was, for the most part, incapable of confidently clearing a dense wave of bullets. He would either bomb or die when he was faced with that.

>> No.10307049

>>10307017
Everytime I end up in a stream of bullets like that, I always go close to the screen of my computer to carefully dodge each one of them. It's not that hard, is it? Although in compesation I'm fucking awful at bombing.

>> No.10307079

>>10307017
> No need to desperately defend yourself, hotshot.
im not the guy you've been arguing/talking with. just saying.

> Anyone watching his replay would clearly see that he was, for the most part, incapable of confidently clearing a dense wave of bullets. He would either bomb or die when he was faced with that.


it was his first day playing according to him.
could you almost perfect the first 3 stages then go onto 1cc any of the games on your first day of playing? i doubt it. even on normal mode that wouldn't be easy for a beginner.
he was a whiny little bitch but he wasn't bad by any means.

>> No.10307192

>>10307016
I can only recommend reinstalling Fraps.

>> No.10307218

>>10307016
Recording to the external drive is probably the issue. Try not recording sound or try recording at a lower resolution.

>> No.10307231

Let's assume for a moment that EoSD misbehaves on certain hardware configurations and vpatch doesn't fix it.

Solution: Stop playing EoSD because it's shitty anyway.

>> No.10307262

>>10307231
Good advice there, Mr.Fox.
Can you recommend us which grapes should we have ?

>> No.10307347

>>10307262
You don't understand how subjectivity works.

>> No.10307456

99% sure that there is just one person with the "problem" and that this person is just making it up just to start shit. Stop feeding the troll and just ignore any such comments from now on tbh.

>> No.10307861

> Finally beat EoSD hard.
Disregard what I said, 10/10 game, would suck ZUNs dick again.

>> No.10308132

>>10307456
As nobody who's started complaining about the bomb issue has actually come forward with anything but "it happens, EoSD sucks" so far, I'd have to agree. If they're a troll then hot-diggity I've been trolled, but regardless it isn't worth any more attention now that it's become clear they don't want any help.

>> No.10308388

wouldn't one of the bombing problems be because of a ghosting keyboard?

I had that problem with someone else's pc...

>> No.10309335

>>10307079
Actually, on my first day I made it to ST 1-6 of DoDonPachi. It was my seventh run of the day, and I was extremely sleep deprived. I think I had a score of about 18M and by the end of the day, I could fully chain Stage 1-1.

This was, of course, watching a friend(who is shit) stream it prior to actually playing it.

>> No.10309397

>>10309335
Not the same anon by the way. I was just trying to state a point.

Survival doesn't mean shit for a player's skill. Any retard can luck their way through to a 1cc.

>> No.10309547

>>10307861
I can't even 1cc EoSD normal. Actually I can't even get to Patchy without retrying.
have like 3 days of experience in STG, I've only ever played the fighting Touhou games because I'm such a gigantic faggot who misuses the spoiler function
I've always known Touhou games are supposed to be hard, but still it makes me feel like a huge failure.

>> No.10309815

>>10309547
Play Lunatic for awhile and then come back to Normal. You could also play another hard STG and then come back to playing whatever game you're trying to 1cc.

>> No.10309889

http://livestream.com/seppostream/
Failing PCB Lunatic. We'll see stage 2, but only if we're lucky.

>> No.10309908

>>10307456

No, I was definitely serious about it. Have you tried watching the replays on PCB Ultra mode? Everything is off-sync and you end up dying before you even get to the first boss.

>> No.10309977

>>10309547
The fighters make me feel like even more of a failure though! At least I only get insulted for my piss poor skill when I'm actively a part of the community in the STGs. But for fighters, I constantly have to play with other people to improve at the game.

>> No.10310664

twitch.tv/eldestructoe

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This time I used a bomb when Oku died, just to be sure I wouldn't die with her.
Now to do it without continuing.

>> No.10311234
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>> No.10311472

>>10311234
Smart, shopping in a replay so that the guy not playing isn't a glaring mistake.

>> No.10311498

>>10311472
Hush, he's studying superplays.

>> No.10311588

>>10311472
The frame extends above the filmed space though, what a blunder.

>> No.10311618

>>10311234
I have that monitor/tv

I'm surprised the FBI would use super outdated equipment like that

>> No.10312433

How the fuck do you beat Reimu in Imperishable Night?

I've been playing Normal and can pretty much take a shit on Wriggle, Mystia is my favorite boss so far, both the boss fight and the music itself are fantastic. Keine fucks me up but I can beat her with a fair number of bombs.

Reimu on the other hand just seems ridiculous, it's damn near impossible to damage her consistently during the phase where she dashes back and forth across the screen, and dear god the phases afterward (I'm going into continues to get to this point) are just absurd.

>> No.10312435

>>10312433
Reimu is a really, uncharacteristically hard stage four boss, unless you're really adamant on not using a team that fights Marisa instead, you're going to have a hard time.

sorry, that's the only advice I can give you, I had to play as the border team to 1CC the game.

>> No.10312441

>>10312433
That's because you only stay at 1 place like i was. Reimu's moving left and right near the edge of the screen and her position is easily predicted, always left then right then left then right. You just need to find a path to move to those locations below her for every wave.

>> No.10312453

>>10312433
Hold shift for focused movement

>> No.10312466

>>10312433
Do what I do. Look very, very closely to your computer screen and dodge that shit.

>> No.10312464

>>10312453
It's better to use unfocus for this fight. There's plenty of space.

>> No.10312468

>>10312435
I find it amusing that the number of people who adamantly insist that Reimu is much harder than Marisa is about equal to the number of people that do the reverse.

>> No.10312470

>>10312433
As other anon said, during non-spells, stay below her, so when she is left, stay left, then when she shoots and moves go right. Repeat.
As for her cards, two of them move left then right, etc.
One (with stuff that aims at you) you have to move everywhere
For the last one, just move up and down (and slightly left and right from time to time).
It's mostly robotic.

>> No.10312472

>>10312433
By tapping X like a madman.

>> No.10312499

UFO is such a shit tier game.

>> No.10312501

>>10312433
I find the reimu fight to be a lot easier than the marisa fight.

>> No.10312506

>>10312501
I agree, anon. I just hate those fucking Marisa moving bullets.

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>>10312499

>> No.10312512

>>10312506
Which bullets don't move?

>> No.10312515

>>10312508
Exactly. God damn it.

>> No.10312519

>>10312512
Hmm, I'm thinking more of static patterns and moving patterns here. Should have specified more.

>> No.10312521

>>10312512
Youmu's bullets

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Why can't you defeat me, /jp? 2tanuki4u?

>> No.10312530

>>10312527
>/jp/
Just fixing it.

>> No.10312531

>>10312527
easiest exboss

>> No.10312549

So it's official. I suck at any boss/stage that goes heavy on the lasers. Not counting Shou though, I can actually manage her curvy lasers. Just those straight lasers that Yuugi and Ichishit use. I hope these stop being used. Truly the worst danmaku.

>> No.10312565

>>10312433
Marisa is definitely much more difficult than Reimu.

>> No.10312571

>>10312527
Only male tanukis actually matter.

>> No.10312582

>>10312565
No she isn't "definitely" more difficult. I find her easy as fuck, but Reimu more difficult. It depends on the players strengths.

>> No.10312586

>>10312582
Yeah, I think which one you find more tricky is probably one of the better ways of finding out what you need to improve on.

>> No.10312590

>>10292792
That's /a/.

>> No.10312620

>>10312527
How hard is she? I've beat every extra boss (except for 9) but haven't started on her.

>> No.10312750

>>10312582
When it comes to efficient scoring, Marisa is definitely the more difficult boss. Reimu is a bit more friendly when it comes to giving you time orbs in general, and you won't find yourself having to fit through pixel-sized spaces whilst not getting your meter above -80%. When playing for survival, it probably depends more on the player, though personally, I fair much better against Reimu. No annoying screen shaking, no bullets coming from 3 directions, not as much microtapping bullshit required.

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God, why couldn't Futo have more spellcards like her first spell. That spell is the only difficult thing about her, and it's fun as fuck too.

>> No.10313918

>>10313905
I don't know why that wasn't chosen to have an overdrive version.

>> No.10314146

adamar if u strm ill suck ur cock dood

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http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=26222
SA LNB with ReimuA

I didn't expect to get this so fast. I might try it again soon with another shot type. It only took a few days, similar to MoF. Now I only have two games left to LNB.

>> No.10314468

I've recently got my hands on an xbox 360. Are there any decent shmups for it I should get?

>> No.10314505

>>10314468
Many CAVE games.

>> No.10314694

>>10314468
DoDonPachi Dai ou Jou. It's a great port, a lot of people complain about the loading times, but the truth is, only the very first loading screen is actually long. The rest are fairly short. But that also could be because I installed it to my hard drive.

There's a few others that I can't comment on how good the ports are, but I've played Mushihimesama-Futari on an actual arcade, and it's a pretty good game. Supposedly has a good port as well. There's also Ketsui, but I'm not entirely sure if it runs on NA console.

If I recall, there's also Triggerheart Exelica, Ikaruga, and Radiant Silvergun on the marketplace. I can't comment on the quality of these games, but I've heard good things about them. Sorry if my post isn't too informative! I've really only played DOJ extensively because I enjoy torturing myself with chaining! My English is also very bad, but I tried my best.

>> No.10314888

>>10314694
DOJBL received an update patch that fixed some of the loading problems, they're still a little long in places but a big improvement from what it was, it's jp region locked too.
Ketsui & Futari both have great ports (Futari is also region free)
Ikaruga has some problems like different patterns & enemy layouts, Triggerheart Exelica is a different game, basically a prototype for Triggerheart Exelica Enhanced,

>>10314468
what region console is it? JP has a lot while PAL & NA don't have as many, but still have some good ones available.

>> No.10314898

Streaming: http://www.twitch.tv/rizth

>> No.10314912

>>10314888
Oh, yes. I forgot to mention that.

You also have DDPDFK, also known as DoDonPachi Resurrection. From what I've played, it is also a great port. And the EU version is region free and quite cheap if you buy it from the right place. Saidaioujou is coming out for the 360 soon too, which will probably be the same deal as DFK. And not only that, but Hibachi is a loli, if you're into that sort of thing.

>> No.10314924 [DELETED] 

>>10314898

strange accent. what is it?

>> No.10314928

>>10314912
>DDPDFK
Doup le Dick Penetration Da FuK

>> No.10314929

>>10314888
EU


Also thanks for the names, I'll check them all out.

Quick question too. I've only really played touhou as far as shmups go, how will I fare at these cave games? (I've currently 1cc'd around 4 touhou games on hard)

>> No.10314936

>>10314912
yes DFK is a good port, I think all the Cave 360 ports are good, DSII is a bit inaccurate but becomes more accurate the more credits you play, MMP is missing a wave of enemies somewhere & PS is missing the infinite lives trick but other than that both are accurate.

>> No.10314946

What's the best Touhou game in regards to scoring?

PCB and UFO are good because of border/UFO systems, what about the rest?

>> No.10314948

>>10314946
IN is the best.

>> No.10314986

>>10314929

You'd probably find yourself somewhat walled at stage 4 or 5 in most Cave games, but a bit of practice and you'd manage.

>> No.10315008

>>10314936
>DSII is a bit inaccurate but becomes more accurate the more credits you play
Wat? How does this work, exactly?

>> No.10315045

>>10314929
EU releases are
Wartech: Senko no Ronde, Deathsmiles, Dodonpachi Resurrection (Daifukkatsu), Akai Katana Shin & Under Defeat HD.
Region Free ones available are
Bullet Soul, Eschatos, Espgaluda II (standard edition only), Mushihimesama Futari, Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets, Ginga Force (I think)
I think I'm forgetting one
there're quite a few on XBLA & XBLIG too
if you can clear Touhou on hard, the easier Cave games & 1st loops shouldn't be too much of a problem survival wise once you get used to the different mechanics.

>>10315008
I think it's each sitting & doesn't carry over, sinmoon was the one that discovered it.

>> No.10315107

>>10314929
DOJBL and Ketsui will likely destroy you if you ever see the second loops. First loop Ketsui will destroy you at first until you get used to it. DOJ scoring will likely make you cry. Be prepared for many nights of stage practice and superplay watching if you want to be consistent with it.

Futari on Original and Maniac shouldn't be too much for you. Ultra will destroy you until you get used to it.

DFK, pretty easy game all around. You shouldn't struggle with the first loop at all. Chaining is still a bit annoying. Looping it is when it gets fun. TLBs are pretty hard, like every CAVE game. Best CAVE game to start with would probably be DDP, but that's just my opinion. And I believe you can't get it on the 360 unless you buy some visual novel anyway, but it's pretty easy to obtain on MAME if you don't mind emulation.

>> No.10315111

>>10315107
Oh, and I should have noted... Ketsui has two loops. Omote and Ura loop. Omote is the Touhou easy one, and Ura is suicide bullets and death and scary fast bullets.

If I recall, seeing ura loop requires you to NMNB the first loop with a score of 120M.

>> No.10315508

Please stream /jp/

>> No.10315515

>>10315508
drmadra prs strlm

>> No.10315548

>>10315515

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>>10315508
Please?

>> No.10316476

>>10316408
twitch.tv/waahst

Maybe a good run will happen.

>> No.10316484

>>10316476
Never mind, twitch servers are down. Will broadcast when it's back.

>> No.10316497

>>10314468
Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets

Only $30 on play-asia

>> No.10316715

>>10316484
Ok, it is back.

>> No.10317900

>>10314468
if you have a US console, buy:
Mushihimesama Futari
Deathsmiles
Akai Katana
Deathsmiles 2
Dodonpachi Resurrection
Espgaluda 2
Muchi Muchi Pork
Strania
Eschatos
Raiden Fighters Aces

if it's an EU console:
- Deathsmiles 2
+ Under Defeat

if it's a jap console:
+ Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu Black Label
+ Ketsui
+ Dodonpachi Daioujou Black Label
+ Mushihimesama
+ pre-order Dodonpachi Saidaioujou

>> No.10317936

>>10314936
DS2 is always very inaccurate if you're using Lei. The other characters are fine though.

>> No.10318724

How is it even possible to fly into stage four with five lives and full power and not make it out?

I wanted to see Sanae's stage, too.

>> No.10318733

>>10318724
Because you didn't bomb enough.

>> No.10318936

>>10318724
Stage 4 in MoF is just long and brutal, and require some planning. Use stage practice to figure out a basic route and bomb where appropriate. Unless you're really good at making microscopic dodges and redirecting bullets while avoiding walls, don't be hesitant to spam bombs on that stage. Also, if you time out Momiji's non spell, you won't have to deal with the wall spam section afterwards. You'll go straight to the shooting crows, I believe, so I suggest you learn her to save power/possibly lives. You can't really cheese anything on Aya, so it's all just a matter of practicing until you can dodge her stuff. Her first non spell is very tricky, and her spells aren't too bad after some practice.

>> No.10319102

>>10318733
That's for sure. I feel like I had enough to just sit at the top of the screen and bomb my way through the whole stage and all the spellcards.

>>10318936
I already bomb all the wall spam, I can't deal with either the one after Momiji and the one early on in the stage. Everything else I think I have a route for and simply fail to execute it properly. It was just an endless series of running into bullets for me.

I should have just spammed continues on that stage until I got good at it, but I was so fed up that I just went to do something else instead. Maybe tomorrow.

>> No.10319149

>>10319102
What's the difficulty?

>> No.10319157

>>10319149
Hard.

The only card I think is hard because I don't know how to do it as opposed to because I run into bullets like a moron is Tengu's Fall Wind, but after actually looking at the picture on touhouwiki I'm pretty sure I've been doing it all wrong.

>> No.10319167

>>10319157
I find not being stuck to the very bottom of the screen helps with that card.

>> No.10319179

>>10319167
I had been trying to dodge it from barely outside the great ring, but that's probably even worse.

I will probably just play pacifist on it to see what it actually does, I've just been throwing bombs at it as soon as things get ugly.

>> No.10319209

Question about Shoot The Bullet. Do Aya's writings change depending on your score or are they always the same?

>> No.10319218

>>10319209
Question about Shoot The BUllet, is it very hard compared to UFO or SA?

>> No.10319226

>>10319209
If you surpass a certain score, she will give her regular spellcard comments. If you don't, she'll just say "I can't write a good story with this." That's it, I think.

>> No.10319239

>>10319218
Starts out easy and gets progressively harder. Why not try it?

>>10319226
That's what I thought. Thanks.

>> No.10319271

>>10319179
I made you a replay: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=26233
The resource collection is not optimal and I didn't stop shooting fast enough on Momiji. Normally, she should be expelled at ~9 seconds on the counter to skip the difficult wall section.
>>10319209
That's hard to compare and it depends on the player.

>> No.10319272

>>10319239
>Why not try it?
I tried for a short time but I couldn't get the hang of it. I couldn't even get past the first boss.

>> No.10319275

>>10319271
Thanks! I'll have a look at it tomorrow.

>> No.10319324

>>10319272
Then you must practice. Are you familiar with the controls and how to take pictures and such?

>> No.10319601

>>10319324
Not at all, and I can't seem to get the hang of it even when I read the manual.

>> No.10319769

adrmr prs sdrm

>> No.10319813

>>10319769

>> No.10319880

>>10319601
You can hold z to aim a picture and steer it with the arrow keys. You can also press z without holding it to take a shot instantly. When you hold z and shift at once, you have super-slow movement and charge your shot fast. Of course, you still move with the arrow keys and use shift for focused movement.

Is this what you are looking for?

>> No.10319949

New thread.
>>10319946

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Hey /jp/, just got into Touhou and i wondered which of the games may be suitable for a starter, no experience with these kind of games at all Thanks for future replies!

>> No.10319984

>>10319961
I would recommend trying a wide range of them before settling on one. I think that sticking to one game from the very start is harmful for a beginner.

>> No.10320066

>>10319961
Stop.

Delete the games and just forget about it, before it's too late.

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