/jp/ - Otaku Culture

How would you change this game if you could? Let's pretend you have the power to make someone at Tasofro listen to you.

184.163.238.244:10800, Canada East.
Mediocre tier.

>>11003437
Make it ground based, forget the flight mechanic, return to high/low.

I don't think the whole aerial fighting game thing is working out well. It was a noble effort, but I just don't see it holding up in the long run.

>>11003457
So basically SWR 3? I'm pretty sure that ship sailed a long time ago. I was thinking about things they could reasonably do in a patch.

>>11003457
Or if you meant how would I update this game based on what it is, and not what they should have done instead, then just add older characters in, regardless of them being in the audience. This game's cast is weak.

>>11003462
Remilia pls go

>>11003437
hi/lo mixup and throws, without the dumb spirit orbs break/five mistakes before badstuff system
add Soku+SWR cast
Otherwise I like it. Neutral's a blast, combos are very adlibby due to spacing constraints, damage is decent. It could be higher meterless for round speed but there are so few uses for it currently that I don't really care, and this isn't a very Force Breaksy game.
None of the gimmick mechanics bother me, since you get popularity for playing aggressively and doing it right.

Otherwise the story for it isn't as charming as SWR or Soku's, nor is the soundtrack motif as good. But that's not as important. I do wish they'd kept the old style for the soundtrack. It was way... spicier.

>>11003480
I'd rather have Flandre (fat chance of that ever happening, I know)

>>11003482
HM soundtrack seems more for the stages than characters.

>>11003462
characters from older games, but that haven't been playable yet in the fighters. Flandre, Ran, Mokou, Shikieiki/Yuuka.

How does Ichirin's mechanic work?

>>11003561
As you takes damage, she builds up a "rage" meter. At around half-health, it was be full and activate automatically. Then she will temporarily deal more damage with her attacks. Not really sure how much more, but it kinda feels around 1.5x to me. Could be wrong.
Not the best mechanic, but nowhere near the worst. It has it's uses, especially with spell cards.

68.197.130.42:7501 Easy Coast

>>11003482
High-Low mixup wouldn't work in this system (or it would require an extra button to be held down to block in that direction), but you're right on the mark with throws. The guard break system needs to be rethought too. You need stuff to open people up in order to play aggressively, and that just doesn't exist in this game. They're banking on popularity to make people aggressive, but there's ways around that. The offensive game itself in HM is really weak.

I would like pushblock to either lower popularity, spirit, or both more drastically. Right now you do it for a short time and get out for free, with no real penalty. Instant Block should also boost popularity more.

I would also like taunts to exist to boost popularity.

96.231.171.118:9999
US EC, testing something tier

>>11003671
taunts could be abuse, since its easy to fly away and do just that.

>>11003671
Pushblock is not free in the least if you play someone who knows what he's doing.

>>11003671
Miko has a taunt, and there's a taunt system card, but for various reasons both of them really suck.

>You need stuff to open people up in order to play aggressively, and that just doesn't exist in this game. They're banking on popularity to make people aggressive, but there's ways around that. The offensive game itself in HM is really weak.
I've seen a suggestion that draining your own spirit during offense should reward you with popularity.

>>11003676
>That delay
Yeeeeaaaah, no thanks.
What part of EC are you in?

>>11003733
A short ways away from DC.

>>11003676
Rehosting.

what is the general consensus of balance between last words?

>>11003794
>12/4/2012
>Verizon, 8ms

Nice try mate.

>>11003811
He's paying a shitload for that FiOS option. It's not what the plebeians get.

>>11003810
The general consensus is that you seem them in actual matches about once every blue moon, so they really don't matter.

>>11003811
Yeah, I like to link the same image instead of retaking it repeatedly, is there a problem?

>>11003836
dude you should give him ice for that BURN

>>11003437
Option to turn off timer.

>>11003794
Not sure why it'd be that bad, then. We live pretty close by, and my connection's perfect as always.

>>11003814
Who in the right mind would actually pay for VERIZON FiOS? Kids probably running a Vista Dualcore to add insult to injury.

>>11003869
People who actually work for a living rather than living in their moms basement and jerking off all day.

>>11003869
His mother pays for it, not him. It's better than what your mother pays for.

>>11003878
>/jp/
>work

Lurk more.

>>11003884
I'm a librarian with a full time job.

How do I not suck so hard playing with Koishi?

>>11003894
Do you wear a funny fat and have a succubus working for you?

>>11003898
Actually...

Learn to combo off 5A, stop getting hit by things when you 66B, and if everything fails just continually prep 6B and spam either rising helix or teleport.

lol, wow you're so leet dudes

show me your epic 'net connection some more!

>>11003897
Learn to combo off 5A, stop getting hit by things when you 66B, and if everything fails just continually prep 6B and spam either rising helix or teleport.

>>11003437
Have them go back in time and just fix the few problems with SWR and keep releasing expansions instead of working on this monstrosity.
If they had put the same amount of time, money, and resources into another SWR expansion as they did HM they realistically could have added 15+ new characters (especially considering that Mokou and Kaguya were both apparently playable but were cut from Hisoutensoku (due to balancing), Wriggle may also have some assets already completed.)
So instead of having a piece of experimental gaming with 9 playable characters we could of had an improved SWR w/ 35+ playable characters
Yea i mad

>>11003438
Rehosting.

>>11003818
I've been in 3 matches with them appearing out of like 20 games or so, so while they /are/ rare, they do happen. I wasted Marisa's because I couldn't remember what it was X<
But I won a game using Miko's, so it's okay I guess.

50.135.157.148:10800
North West US

>>11004016
If you guys haven't tried all the final words I would HIGHLY suggest you into practice and try them all out.
Some of them are ABSURDLY easy to whiff, and when you whiff them, it SUCKS. Frankly as difficult as it is to 100%, it should never whiff but fuck that's tasofro for you.

>>11004051
Does not using them deplete your popularity to zero?

>>11004016
I see a last word pretty much everytime the match gets to round 3.

>>11004060
Eventually yes

>>11003921
you don't count and you know it

GGs to those I played. Will host again later/tomorrow.

88.112.94.107:10800
Finland
Tunnel vision tier

Damnit. And it held out so long, Nanou.
Oh, well. GGs. I hate Nitori so much with her stupid instant wall of pain :P
You're Byakuren has gotten a lot better. Your dashes and anticipation are starting to become deadly.
Anyways, I'm done for tonight. For real this time.

Has tasofro made any statements on Kokoro's full implementation?

>>11004227
Always tomorrow, friend. GGs and have a good night.
>>11004047
Rehosting

>>11004231

>>11004237
GGs Nanou.

GGs, Renee. It took me awhile to realize I should throw a lot more stars at you rather than try to straight up fight.

Just a dumb question out of curiosity. Futo's "plates" are actually plates are they? I keep people saying that EVERYWHERE (including the HM wiki)
I always thought they were just normal sakazuki (cups)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF5SHzDT_84

>>11004502
aren't, not are, rather

>>11004047
Hosting for a teensy bit

>>11004502
SoPM states that apparently the object Futo used for the shikaisen ritual was a plate. Miko used her sword. Given that Futo uses plates as weapons too, it should be clear.

>>11004502
I noticed this too
>>11004540
She also uses cups as weapons, unless that spellcard from Ten Desires is mistranslated.
Plus aren't the "plates" in HM filled with liquid?

>>11004186
GGs, I really need to stop using 2B so much and get better in something else than just using spell cards too.
I'm also waiting for tasofro to finish kokoro so I'll have someone else to play too.
The others don't really interestes me that much, though your Ichirin did make her seem more interesting than the first impression I got of her.

>>11004586
Probably it would have been better to leave it as "dish" but the word also means plate. And platter. And disc. Look at me, I'm so fancy, I can use a dictionary.

>>11004600
GGs. I think using 2B a lot is fine, as long as you use it in close range so I can't easily punish with 5Y, since there's very little I can do to punish a melee range 2B short of godly timing with 8B or perfect distance with 5B.
I really need to get better at actually using spellcards myself. I use maybe one every 5 matches.

Rehosting.

>>11004047
I aplogize for being so bad, that was my first online experiance where I didn't lag out of the game.

>>11004502
>>11004586
>>11004606
All correct
皿 can be used to refer to plates or sakazuki cups.
The translator in Ten Desires realized this and knew that Futa was throwing sakazuki and not just normal dishware, which is why we have "Mononobe's Eighty Sake Cups".
However, It makes more sense to call them cups from an English standpoint.

>>11004625
GGs, friend. You didn't do bad at all for your first time. All you have to do now is work out a few combos and remember to guard.
>>11004047
Still hosting

>>11004654
yup. Thanks a lot for a really fun game.

>>11004660
It doesn't have to be tonight, but stick around. I just started a few days ago myself, but these peeps are pretty chill.

>>11004621

GGs, sorry for so few matches, again. Have some things to do today too, but wanted a few morning matches before everything else.

>>11005195
GGs.

>>11004186
Hosting

116.197.200.18:10800 Singapore (SE Asia)

>>11005207
Well, whatever. Got some good games in. I think I'm just too far away for it to work consistently, so sorry.

>>11006167
Yeah, you're a bit too far for lagfree games. GGs.

Still hosting.

>>11004047
Hosting

>>11007250
GGs, Mindless. Don't forget to use your spellcards. They also stop time, so you can use that chance to kill an opponent who's going for a popularity win.

>>11007572

I try not to rely on spellcard too much. GGs Nanou. The power of your flailing is strong.

Anyone hosting?

>>11007581
There's literally zero reason not to use your spellcards though. They give you popularity just for declaring, they are powerful skills that don't cost anything big, both players have access to them, and the earlier you use your first, the earlier you can use your second. The game encourages you to declare and use spellcards as much as you want to.

>>11008045
declaring 8 times sounds hard.

>>11008105
You gotta BELIEVE!!

...But seriously, 2 or 3 is probably the reasonable maximum. Maybe just 1 if you curbstomp everyone you fight while hardly taking damage. Any more than those, and you're just wasting slots.

Ok, how do I use a spellcard?

>>11008212
There's a wiki that says how
You could also google it.

>>11008212
Easy peasy. Set a spellcard to one of your attack slots- doesn't matter which one, as long as it doesn't interfere with your playstyle.
Next, when you've hit the opponent enough/ taken enough damage during a match, your blue health will reach the end of your white health. That means you can declare a spell card at any point and time.
Declare the card at your leisure afterwards. Declaring a card will have some invincibility frames, but then you will return to normal control. Declaring will not "activate" the card immediately.
Then you have a couple of seconds to activate the card. If the timer runs out, too bad, the spell is gone for that round. Just wait for an opportunity or put your opponent into a white-stun state, then activate your declared card. Voila.
Cards will "respawn" with each round, so don't hold back. Also, even if you purely take damage during the fight, you'll probably earn enough blue health for about 2 spell cards. More if you hit the enemy more.
Learn what spell cards you like or are good with, and make use of them.

>>11008045
If your spellcard timer runs out and you haven't used it, you will lose popularity. Some spellcards are unsafe to just throw out, and so you might have a couple expire, costing you the pop. Still, I agree it's better to declare everytime you enter blue anyway.

>>11008304
Even then, you lose the same amount of popularity as you gained just from the declaration.
The bigger drawback would be getting interrupted during the declaration or having your spellcard avoided, since I /think/ both of those things give your opponent popularity.
Still, I think opportunity of taking off 1/3~1/2 health of an opponent is worth the risk of giving an opponent like, 10, popularity.

>>11004047
Hosting

>>11008105
You can only use each card once per round, regardless of how many slots you fill.

>>11008567
but that's not true

>>11008353
GGs as always, Octopus. I've gotta head out know, but I'll host again later tonight.

68.50.128.123:10800
US East
Friday night drinking party alone tier

>>11008353
Laughing my ass off. That's a good place to stop.
GGs Nanou. GGs.
I have got to find a way to counter your faster characters. Especially Byakuren and her 2B. So quick...

Anyone in EU still up?
I haven't played against humans thus far, but I'd really like to start.

>>11008602
Proof? That's how it works when I play.

>>11008692
When I can use up 3
maybe ecause thats how i edited my deck to be

>>11008717
He said each card can be used once per round.

>>11003438
Rehosting~

>>11008720
so put the same card in different slots

>>11008630
dude, guy who left, I wanted to play your reimu with my marisa...
rejoin if you want to play more...

Rehosting

>>11008792
Sorry dude, I have to bounce.

You're also the first person I tried my Reimu on, glad it was good for you. I normally use Mamizou, which I wanted to try with your Marisa.

Another time, then

>>11008812
Your reimu was good, it was effectively kind of annoying
I haven't seen a Mamizou yet either, that would've been interesting.
Futo is always fun though.

96.231.171.118:9999
US EC

>>11008722
I think my th135 stopped working again, but that's probably just as well. Even I can only take so much abuse ;P
GGs, Maribel. I haven't fought nearly enough Reimu's (or all characters, in general), and my new Miko is having trouble keeping up with the old one's speed. That priority...
Also, I have no idea when Reimu's comboes end, apparently. I thought the aerial kicks were usually the end of her comboes, but you just kept going.
Again, GGs, and good night.

>>11008722
Got a black screen after that last match. Don't know if it crashed or if you left, but GGs Octopus.
I can't freaking do that 5AAA6A 4Flashkick ender to Reimu's BnB. always whiff the 5A. ;_;

Rehosting

>>11008961
Holy fucking shit you're insane
Fun games though, gg.
It's about time I read that wiki.

>>11004047
Hosting

>>11009087
GGs, and thanks haha

>>11008969
Ggs, Reimu mirrors are quite fun!

Does anyone have any videos of high-level players playing this?

>>11003438
Gah, I need a break. Getting beat down is fine. Getting beat down even worse because my cat keeps fucking jumping on my KB, leading to stupid shit like pillar out of nowhere for no reason is just aggravating.

GGs Senovit

>>11009175
give it 2 months

>>11004047
Man you're insane too. GGs.

189.218.75.253:10800
Northern mexico
Just started to play

>>11009214
GGs to you too, Kimspark. Try to learn a couple combos that stun your opponent and then follow up with your spellcard. Marisa's dash SC is fine due to the near instant activation, but master spark needs the prep time.
>>11009123
Still hosting

>>11008961
GGs, Doctor.
Your Miko is leaps and bounds beyond mine. I'm just gonna take that victory I don't deserve and run.
If you're willing to tell me, what's the combo that you do near the wall? I know the ground-bounce combo, but I've never seen the longer one.

GGs Octopus.

>>11008961
Rehosting

>>11009258
The combo near the wall was probably 5AAA (1 hit) 6B 6swords jc 5AAA (2~4 hits) 8B 2swords.

>>11009259
Actually, I think I'm done hosting for tonight.

>>11009258
Also, that route I take is usually less than optimal, if you can squeeze proration to about 19~22% with the last 2swords than I'm pretty sure that's near optimal. 2B 5X (whiff) 2jc 5AAA 6B 6swords jc 5AAA 8B 2swords comes pretty close iirc.

>>11009221
That was fun, whoever that was. Sorry if I was not much of a challenge.

>>11009123
GGs as always, Nanou.
I'm getting sloppy. It's time to call it a night.

>>11009273
Thanks. I think the second half is gonna give me trouble, since jc 5AAA combos tend to, but I'll practice it.
I appreciate your response.

>>11009375
GGs, Octopus.
>>11009123
Still hosting

>>11009384
Jesus, too much for me. Though, I got you real good with those spell cards. Those Byakuren corner beatings are too much for me.

GGs, Lubei. Glad you stuck around for a bit even through the lag.
>>11009384
Still hosting

>>11009449
A little lag never hurt anyone. I'd be a poor sport if I back out of good matches because of it. Though, thanks for those Futo pointers. I'll try using that dish spinning move to end combos with.

67.177.122.59:10000
US Eastcoast
Attempting to host-tier

GGs Nanou I have had a few drinks tonight so sorry for the sloppy playing. I had fun.

Good round, Ganon, but I can't do that again. I'm sorry about the constant lag. I'll have to fix my connection before even trying to host again.

>>11009627
It's fun to watch replay in fullmotion

GGs, unaccusative. Seems like you should practice on your combos. I'd offer some advice, but I have no clue how Futo's pillars factor into any chains.
>>11007250
Still hosting

>>11009123

>>11009449
Sorry man, would have been fun games but my game keeps shitting out on me, not sure why either.

GGs, Pc. Sorry for the lag, that might have actually been me. Only now do I realize my torrents had been on the entire time.

>>11009678
Eugh, never mind. I can't do that. It seems like you've found all the annoying, loop-able corner spammy combos. I just can't go up against that. No offense.

50.133.212.119:10800 Nitori East Coast

>>11009794
Too much lag for me, might be on my end, sorry. Gg.

>>11009794
Good match. Work on that Nitori. Also, try to combo that cucumber launcher as a normal melee finisher. You'll hit practically every time.

>>11004186
Hosting for a moment. Would just like to get a match or two in before I have stuff to do, so I don't mind laggy ones at all.

GGs xzy.

>>11009678
GGs.
Playing Miko is hard, especially when I mess up the combos every time.

What do I have to do if I want to host a game?
Just choose the first option in netplay, post Ip:Port and wait?

>>11010032
Yes, just make sure the port you choose has been opened.

>>11010076
thanks.

Hosting
116.197.200.18:10800
Singapore (SE Asia)

91.152.90.229:10800
Finland
Tunnel vision tier

I tried installing HM on my older Windows XP laptop and when I launch it, I get this error message,loading screen and crash to desktop. Anyone know whats wrong? The trial is working just fine.

>>11010995
Ctrl+c lets you copy the text from message boxes like that.

>>11011099
ご使用の環境では正常に描画ができません
Ran through google translate:
"It is not possible to render correctly in your environment"

Still no closer to getting it to work.

>>11010859

ggs, I guess in the end this is not a game for me, they'd have to make sweeping changes to the cancel system which I doubt they'll do

Oh well, it was fun for a week

>>11011645
GGs.

Still hosting.

>>11010995
>older Windows XP laptop

There's your problem.

>>11011348
It's telling you what the problem is right there, it can't render properly. Update your DX if it's <9.0c. Otherwise the gfx card is just plain too shitty to be able run it.

>>11012015
>Otherwise the gfx card is just plain too shitty to be able run it.
Namely, it probably doesn't support pixel shader 2.0.

>>11010859
GG. Still trying to work out what I should be doing under corner pressure like that

>>11012554
GGs. Sorry I just disappeared. I was called out to help with something.

Rehosting.

How do I adjust my religion?

>>11012623
stat triangle when you change spellcards
top is shinto, left is taoism, right is buddhism

>>11012638

But how do I select the triangle? I can switch cards fine I just don't know how to select the triangle and change it.

>>11012648
Some cards can give you points toward a certain religion. Check through all of them to see what categories they add toward. There are also some system cards that +2 to one religion and -1 to the others. Koishi's hat system card does -1 to all religions if you want to head to neutral instead.

>>11012669

I see, thanks a lot.

>>11004047
Hosting

68.33.187.216:10800
US EC

>>11010859
GGs really nice Marisa

>>11003409
>Windows only

>>11012745
GGs. I played really poorly, dropping combos, using wrong ones and not paying attention to my spirit everywhere. Your play seemed much cleaner.
Definitely join again in the future. It was a lot of fun.

>>11012718
GG's, that ground bounce attack is my worst enemy.

>>11012889
thanks for the games, that was fun

>>11012746
Linux can't have games and they shouldn't pander to OSX fagboys.

>>11012897
>Linux can't have games

>>11012713
Still hosting

>>11012909
Go back to using wine you freedumb loving whore.

>>11012912
M$ cock sure is delicious!

>>11012930
Why are you still talking to me?

>>11012718
good games, i'm done for now. suddenly seems like my 5A has a microscopic hitbox.

68.50.128.123:10800
US East
talking with tech support tier

>>11003651
Hosting

>>11003651
68.197.130.94:7501 Easy Coast.

>>11013215
GGs futo, fun games.
sorry i need to talk with this indian tech support guy.

>>11013312
No problem, ggs! Futo is a lot of fun.

189.181.84.100
Central

>>11013295
Still hosting

98.209.119.22:7500
ec

>>11013474
>Marisa at Max Popularity
>lands a Dial A
>Doesn't use Last Word
>It runs out
Nanou.
Nanou. Please. You're breaking my heart.

GG, Sugar. I gotta stop getting to agitated in fights.I end up mashing buttons and screwing up combos.
>>11013843
The same happened here.

>>11013843
>>11013914
Sounds awfully similar to a certain nanu who played soku.

>>11003438
Rehosting.

>>11013964
GGs, Maribel.
I think I did a little better today.
Just wanted some quick matches before I ate supper.

>>11014198
Ah, well, thanks for playing.

Rehosted.

>>11014204
That was fun!
Good job on your combos, geez.

>>11009526
rehosting, I think I might have fixed my connection issue.

>>11004047
Hosting

>>11014325
Well, it's a little more bearable than yesterday.

How to edit your name?

>>11014343
Main Menu
Profile

>>11014348
Thanks!

>>11009526
That delay is a bit too silly. Not sure what's going on there.

>>11012746
> Not dualbooting

>>11014337
Good games nanou, sorry about the lag, it may have been me.. but im not sure/

>>11014412
GGs. Yeah, I'm unsure where the lag is from, it's not usually that slow.

>>11014483
really fun matches. alot were really close.

>>11014337
Hosting for a bit

>>11004186
Hosting till the end of time.

>>11015574
Sorry for the lag. Even still, gg's.

>>11015664
GGs

>>11015574
GGs, got to take a break.
I have to stop holding down 2/8 while I'm blocking so I don't eat easy combos.

>>11016463
GGs. Byakuren can be so hard to catch at times.

Hosting
184.175.34.153:10800
Canada (Toronto)

>>11003438
Rehosting~

>>11017222
I guess now's not a good time.

>>11004186
Rehosting till the end of time

>>11017519
GGs Octopus. A bit too laggy for long series.

Still hosting.

>>11017519
GGs. I just don't know how to compete with your smooth Marisa :P
Also, I appreciate the waiting for my computer to register that I was playing that one match. I couldn't do anything for a few seconds :/
Maybe someday I'll actually be some competition Lol

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is a site that lists all the numerical statistics for this game? I'm talking about like damage attack powers, proration rates, movement speeds and frame rates. Also, exactly how much items effect stats would be swell. All those nifty gritty details.
I've tried looking for a little while, but haven't come up with anything myself yet. It's not really important, so if no one knows, I'm not gonna lose any sleep tonight over it, but I thought it could be fun to try and figure out better combos with more concrete data.

>>11018004
Maybe the wiki

>>11018004
I remember when people had fun just playing games, and could still kick everyone's asses.

>>11018132
Lol Like I said, I'm not really worried about it. I kinda suck at the game and I know it. I'm never going to be the best, and don't really care to be. I just kind of like exploring the number-crunching when implemented with plausible combos or setups. Will it help me "kick everyone's asses"? Only very, very slightly. For the most part, it's just for a different kind of entertainment for me.

>>11018004
the wiki is the best you're going to get at this point, though it's incomplete. The Japanese scene should figure this stuff out first but I'm not sure where their information hub is.

>>11018132
I remember when different people found different things to be enjoyable. Oh wait, that's been the case forever.

>>11003437
Make it IAMP, but with the sprite style of this game.

ec?

68.50.128.123:10800
East coast

>>11022932
xyz, it suddenly froze at character selection, rehosting if you want to try again.

Does anyone know if there is a way to magically turn off only the title menu music, but keep the gameplay music on?
It's great music, but kind of tired of hearing it for hours while hosting and waiting for people to connect.

>>11022941
I most likely my connection's fault, it usually works flawlessly later at night, so I'll try again then.

>>11022954
Hm okay.

It's just whenever I see shit threads filling up /jp/, I like to bump up this thread for games.
Still hosting
>>11022932

Could someone post a translated picture of key menu interfaces?

Also, how do I change my buttons while using an Xbox controller? Is it also correct there's only 6 buttons, 2 of those 6 being macros?

>>11023002
Check the wiki, might have what you're looking for:
http://shinkirou.koumakan.jp/wiki/Config

Yes 4 buttons + 2 buttons macros of A+B and X+Y

How do you unlock Mamizou??

>>11023153
Enter the konami code on the character select screen then restart the game.

>>11023153
Beat story with every character, or download the score.dat on the wiki, which is on secret boss page for some reason. http://shinkirou.koumakan.jp/wiki/Hata_no_Kokoro

protip: Don't yell at people to use the wiki if it's shit.

>>11023214

As far as I know that is the hacked score.dat for kokoro to be useable in practice-mode and can't be used for normal play since Mamizou doesn't work in it

>>11023153

If you want I could upload my score.dat which has Mamizou unlocked. Could anyone recommend a place to upload the file?

>>11023515
mediafire, mega, dropbox, google drive

>>11023519

Thanks.

>>11023515

Here is the score.dat with Mamizou unlocked.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/wi9hzx09jci0s1v/score.dat

68.50.128.123:10800
US East
casual tier

>>11023609
koishi, i got stuck at a black screen right after the match,
rehosting, would love to play you again, connection is kind of crazy with you though.

75.177.129.197:7500 US East

>>11023609
GGs mindless
first time I've ever played against a koishi actually
you're corner game is great

>>11023688

Game keep crashing. I'll be around more often in 1.03 if netplay gets fixed. Also nice Marisa. Nice to know broom ride grazes. I had fun.

Is this game even going to be alive by the time I get a new computer at the end of the year?

>>11024359

are you going to be alive by the end of the year?

>>11024359
It's June! Why the long wait?

68.197.130.94:7501 Easy Coast. Only for a little.

Hosting.

201.141.61.247:10800

I'm new to the game, don't expect much.

>>11024845
Hmm I'm trying to connect but nope. I'm new to the game too, do you have to configure something?

>>11024906

yeah, you have to forward port 10800 in your modem settings if you want to host a game. if you don't know how to do it, portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm has a list of general guides for whatever interface your router has.

Hosting
107.199.70.67:10800

>>11025026
Tried to join your game, no go.

Hosting: 198.72.219.126
Just forwarded my ports tier?

>>11025056
If you can't join a game click on the second option.

>>11025069
Hmm? What second option, what does it do?

>>11025111
you figure it out

>>11025026
Good game.

>>11004186
Hosting.

>>11026702
GGs Aioli, it was a ton of fun. Sorry about all the fooling around. I just wasn't feeling serious tonight.

>>11026914

GGs

It's chill, I was playing like a tard anyways, not to mention I was mostly feeling mad over how much the game limits my pressure alternatives.

It's kind of frustrating that I have to back off because my spirit runs out, over and over, and even if I break through a guard, there's not a lot I can do without spirit, and I'm even using the character with a longer spirit bar.

Sigh, maybe this just is the limit of how much fun I can do in this game. Or maybe I'm just having a bad day, we'll see.

>>11026925
The secret is to never guard break but instead leave their spirit bar crippled and abuse that for neutral advantage.

>>11026936

Which in itself is a rather silly way to implement the mechanic, but even if I'm attempting that I still feel crippled.

If I manage to get my opponent in the corner, my spirit always runs out before I can get anything done, it seems the only real way to apply pressure is with delayed attacks that don't so that your spirit bar doesn't have time to run out. But even this seems like a really bad idea because of the high mobility of all characters, making gaps in your strings makes them easy to get out of.


I might be speaking out of my arse but by gosh, it is slightly annoying to feel crippled because you're playing offensively.

>>11026954
I may be intruding, but out of curiosity, have you tried being offensive with multiple characters, or seen how other people make use of what your character/s has/have? I don't know who you play as, but some of the characters are strictly better offensively than others. While none of them really allow you to CRUSH an opponent, which is what sounds like you want to do, but there are some characters that can get pretty darn close. Search around for some strategies that you may not have thought of.

>>11027038

Intruding shchmintruding, it's a public forum, go nuts.

I'm moslty playing Reimu, because that's who I feel have the most fun with, and fits my playstyle, I tried the others but they mostly felt gimped, aside from Byakuren who felt kind of EH at most.

Iunno,I'm probably just too bad at this, or having a bad day, or both.

>>11027181
Well, my recommendation might be to try changing your mindset offensively. The game itself really doesn't... encourage you to guard break. I'm not really sure any character would be good at it, Reimu included in that.
However, it DOES heavily reward punishing and countering, and Reimu is downright GIFTED at doing those. Her shutdown game is fantastic, and she has moves for basically any given situation.
Maybe in future games, focus less on crippling your opponent and focus more on making them hurt when they make a move?

>>11004047
Hosting

>>11029031
GGs, sorry for quitting early. Didn't mean to cause lag, and I can't really play anyone besides Koishi

>>11029068
GGs. It was fun, friend.
>>11029031
Still hosting

http://www.tasofro.net/touhou135/index.html#130612

1.03 is out.

>>11029635
What does it do? I patched it and still no Kokoro, so it may be just minor bug fixes.

>>11029645
Well, from what machine translations tell me from their blog,
Something about a coordination bug that apparently wasn't fixed.
Various input adjustments to make it more operational or something.
Some people were changed including Miko.
Miko's popularity lower limit is now working? Whatever that is.
They now support "Adjust Full Fledged"
They didn't make many big changes supposedly and that all that is for the next patch.
and something about the system cards being able to be chosen or something.

68.84.22.38:7500

testing to see.

>>11030113

Ah. So this patch did fix netplay connecting error. Thanks whoever connected.

>>11029635
No more extra hitstop on counterhits.
Popularity decreases RAPIDLY the longer you stay against the wall.
Changed pushback distance when blocking in the corner.
You can buffer dashes.
Pressing c/z no longer performs normal attacks.
Gravity affects downwards attacks from up high.
Fixed many game-crashing bugs - last words, etc
Fixed rng with random music and stage select!!!!
Fixed Byakuren's weak bullets being ungrazable I knew something was wrong with that fucker.
Futo's plates stay on screen.
Fixed Miko's cape not changing between rounds and rate of popularity change.
Nerfed Koishi.
Mamizou's aa8a is a little better not that anyone uses her.
NO Reimu changes.

>>11030394
>Fixed Byakuren's weak bullets being ungrazable I knew something was wrong with that fucker.
as if it's usable outside of combos

>>11030437
Don't tell me you're canceling your whiffed Bs into 5Y every time.

>>11030394
>Nerfed Koishi.

wat

>>11030452
what? i just told you i'm not doing that.
is the "weak" bullet 5X or 5Y? 5X has always been grazable so i assumed it was 5Y.

>>11030527
Weak is X.

>>11030394
>Futo's plates stay on screen.
What does this mean? I haven't played her for long but I never had a problem with Futo's plates.

>>11030537
I think the camera just shows your plates.

>>11030394
>Fixed rng with random music and stage select!!!!
What was wrong with it?

>>11030567
I tried that in training mode and vs com, and the camera didn't zoom out to show the plates or anything special.

>>11030537
Apparently they could land above or below the screen before, but not anymore.

>Nobody hosting

;_;

>>11030633
Probably means that the RNG was biased towards specific results where it shouldn't have been.

>>11030394
>not that anyone uses her.
fuck you

>>11024512
Hosting

>>11030394
No changes for Nitori?

>>11031791
I can't read this but these are the Nitori changes:
<河城にとり>
・菊一文字コンプレッサーの爆風に攻撃がヒットする不具合を修正
・上強打を上空で出した際に降下を経由して発動するように調整

>>11003438
Hosting for a short bit.

>>11032318
Reimu flash kick as strong as ever I see. I didn't know Reimu shinto bullets are so good. They have to be the most problematic bullets I've faced so far. GGs Maribel.

>>11032571
GGs Renee.
Reimu Shinto amulets are god tier harassment. If I was actually any good, I would dash cancel into a bnb everytime, but I'm not quite there yet. I still can't get the hang of low B -> high C, High B -> Low C either, keep doing low/low, but they home so strongly it sometimes still hits.

On the subject of problematic moves, Byakuren's sword swing? Holy shit that thing is strong. It's like Haohmaru 5AB all over again.

>>11030394
>Nerfed Koishi.
>NO Reimu changes.
How about FUCK YOU.
I just tested Koishi, she feels the same. I can't see the nerfs.

>>11032722
Something about being able to use stored bullets even when at or below 0 spirit. More of a bug fix, but still a nerf I guess since she's losing something.

>>11030394
Hitstun or hitstop on counterhits? No extra hitstun is pretty lame, no extra hitstop just makes doing stuff with em harder.

>>11032799
Feels like just hitstop

>>11032767

No. It's the other way around. She can now use the store bullets/special even if she doesn't have any spirit.

Is it just me, or does this game feel like you're fighting on a big trampoline?

>>11033031
it's just you

>>11032799
I thought by hitstop they meant the game momentarily stops to play the crowd cheer on counterhits and now it doesn't stop or it lasts less.

>>11032885
isn't that a buff of some sorts then?

How do I netplay?
New at this shit

>>11034467

Forward the correct port, default is 10800 nd then go to Vs Network, choose the first option.

Give opponent your ip and port in the ip:port format, and wait.

Or just connect to someone else, it's not rocket science.

>>11034258
Why is the cape fucked up?

>>11034783
It isn't.

>>11004047
Hosting

>>11024512
Hosting

>>11034467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3iZVy4-Ymg

>>11034783
The in-game effect on the cape isn't actually part of the sprite. Same thing applies to Kokoro's dress though that makes less sense.

>>11035298
GGs, SV. Sorry to cut the game short, but I've gotta get going.

>>11035298
ggs

Thanks for the games.

Is there any site that has every stage background? Ripped or screenshots both ok.

>>11035463

I don't think so.

>>11035463
http://www.mediafire.com/?np6a9ebg8y126vm
Just ripped them.

How do I stop the game from crashing at stage 7? I have installed all patches.

>>11035316
You've gotten a lot better at landing your normals. Sky fist is jc-able, I've seen it used in pretty much every bnb from some of the more damaging ichirins I fight.

That laser always manages to ruin my day, even when I think I know a way around it. GGs Foolish.

>>11035627
>Sky fist
Uh which input is that?

Ooh who are the other Ichirins?

Anyone still hosting?

>>11035597
Back in ver.1.00 at least, the game would normally crash if I did a Last Word or certain Spellcards.
I would recommend just Taking It Easy. Dodge the bullets Kokoro shoots, then shoot whatever your best bullet is. Don't get fancy, and just wittle her away.
I haven't played higher than normal, so maybe things get toooo hectic for this tacticon lunatic, but I doubt it.

>>11035683

My case is worse, the game crashes as soon as the fight is about to start, as soon as the dialogue ends.

>>11035316
Hosting again

>>11035537
Thank you! You're the best, anon!

How would I join a multiplayer game? Copy IP, choose network and what do I choose then?

>>11035789
Go to the second option or third for list or whatever, choose the IP you want, then choose the top option of the little choice box that appears. The other choice will search the IP for matches that you can spectate. Pretty cool stuff.

>>11035708
Well.
That sucks. I cannot help you. I am sorry :(

>>11035824

Thanks.

>>11035867
No prob.

Nanou, you're KILLING ME.
Reimu's Last Word is a GRAB at close range! You had so many chances to use it! Aaaaaugh!
And I was just SPECTATING!

GGs Nanou, sorry for the lag I think it was my side, but I can't be certain. I need a better Futo midscreen combo.

>>11035943
GGs Hina, sorry that my game crashed at the end there. Your Futo is better than what I've come across so far.
>>11035902
Sorry man, it looked like a taunt to me.
>>11035298
Still hosting

>>11035963
Technically, it is. It will counter any attack that hits Reimu during her pose. BUT if you use it with you pixels touching the opponent in inappropriate places, then it's also a grab. Fantastic for wake-up cruelty.

>>11035986
The game pauses to give your opponent time to jump out. It's not good to throw out as a real throw vs meaty option. Best to either combo into it or somehow catch your opponent jumping and follow them before they can jump again.

>>11035298
GGs. I should consider learning some more characters. It makes me a bit envious seeing people play more than one very well.

GGs, Smokey. Koishi's flowers are really annoying. Are they timed or do they activate randomly?
>>11035298
Hosting

>>11036159
I think they activate after a few seconds, but I do know Koishi can pop them by grazing past them.

>>11036159
Gg, it was quite laggy though.

GGs, profile1. We may be too far apart to play without lag.

>>11035298
Forever hosting

>>11036260
Ggs, lag was probably from my end sorry.

>>11036260
GGs Senovit, you're insane with Reimu. I'm suprised that I was able to even win a round.

My IP 68.229.68.127:10800

Is Marisa still 2stronk?

My IP 68.229.68.127:10800

Join please, onegai!

>>11036600
Doesn't work de gozaru.

>>11036626
I'm trying to re-host. Please let me know if you guys are going to (and can't join).

68.229.68.127

>>11036790
No dice.

>>11024512
Hosting

68.197.130.94:7501

I tried to join and it didn't go through. Did you get someone to join in the past few minutes?

I'm from East Cost, New York area. Anyone want to host? I main Miko.

>>11036790
sup travis

24.130.202.61:10800
Hosting attempt

>>11035298
Hosting once more

>>11036924
GG, bit laggy but matches were fun

GGs, Rhekar. Try to learn a few more combos for Byakuren. The one you were using didn't seem to fully connect most of the time.
>>11035298
Still hosting

>>11037027
Woops, exited on accident. Still hosting.

>>11036890
Wanna play?

68.197.130.94:7501 Hosting. Anyone can join atm though.

>>11037163

Did you stop again? I'll stop here too then. Thanks Nanou. You seem to have gotten faster with your characters.

>>11037163
Well, I did it again, but I think I'll quit this time. GGs Mindless, you got a lot better at the end there.

>>11037185
GGs xzy. Rehosting.

>>11037185
GGs.
Sorry about running away and winning through popularity that one match. I just wanted a single win.

How do I become a godlike Koishi player that can win Evo 2k13 and become the next Justin Wong?

>>11037248
GGs Mindless. Your reimu kick combo is unique. I have olny see people preform that combo with the down version too.

>>11037398
Gg Renee. Your Byakuren 5a is strong and I see you learn some new combos too and etc. About the Reimu kick combo, I think the other Reimu main knows that as well, there's just better options. Also is it me or is Reimu spread amulet annoying?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1EznocSWnk#t=3m14sec

what the fuck happened here

Does anyone want to host? It would help no matter where you are cause I just wanna make sure I can connect to people first. I could also host and port forwarded but no success either way so far.

>>11038511
That spell have a big startup time. Until Byakuren flashes spell is not activated.

>>11037185
Hosting

>>11038752
trying to join.

>>11036890
68.197.130.94:7501

I'm Hosting.

Going to try and host this time. I main Miko.
Let me know if you guys can't join.

>>11038771
Just found out I have to babysit. Will host in a bit.

>>11038795
Teach her how to play!

>>11004047
Hosting

>>11037185
Hosting again, lurking 3 year old tier

>>11038983
Trying to join, at precisely, 3:00PM New York/US Eastern time. Has anyone joined?

I still haven't been able to join, nor have anyone join my hosted game.

>>11038983
GGs SV. Going to take a break now. Will host later.

>>11038983
ggs renee
I always enjoy playing you.

>>11039159
>>11039162
Could one of you try to host for me?

>>11039154
I'll host in a good 15 if you're still around. I was in a match. You can choose the second option to after the first fails to see if people are in a match already.

Okay what's your IP?

I been copying to clipboard and then doublechecking it via looking at thread and the game, and back.

I opened 10800 port in my router which should let me host, right? But that doesn't effect me joining other games right?

Also when I played Hitensoku in the past, I never had trouble connected to people using (never hosted though).

Any common issues? I'm pretty sure I have most recent game up to do date and stuff.

>>11039182
Correct, port forwarding is not required in order to join or spectate other games. It only matters when you want to host. Game version does matter, our current version is 1.03b.

I'll host for you now.

68.197.130.94:7501 is my ip and port.

>>11039213
Immediately won't even work.

Usually there's a "..." before Kanjia, maybe saying it's waiting or searching or something.

68.197.130.94:7501
I'll try again but I'm going to host to see if u can join.

>>11039223
It works
I just tried it
it works

>>11039230
Whatcha mean? Didn't work for me.

I have no clue what I'm doing wrong...fucking hell.

>>11039223
I really don't know then. I just finished playing so I know I can host fine. I will continue to host for you. Make sure you have it on your clipboard and selecting the 4th option to connect. Waiting warmly.

>>11039237
What version do you have?

>>11039241
Ill try in a bit again.

>>11039242
I have the version listed as the "current version" in this treads' OP, so v1.02, which was listed on tasofro?

Just installed stuff the other day?

How do I check my curr version?

>>11039246
Current version is 1.03b. You can use the link in the OP to go get it.

>>11039246
You want 1.03b
And top left corner

http://s18.postimg.org/oriuw6jt5/halp.png

Well geez here's what happens when I try to join. Well, before I click join, via clipboard.

>>11039261
Update your shit.

>>11039268
Ya just noticed. Sooo just run the 1.03 update in my games\tasofro folder, and it will overrun 1.02? That's what I'm doing right now.

>>11039281
Yes

YAY it works. Thanks /jp/.

I'm using keyboard so ;_;

Also holy crap, crazy Byak.

Gg's to the Byakuren. Got my ass kicked. Even if I had controller wouldn't made much of a difference. I didn't know this game was combo-heavy, something I was happy about, but man, Byak seems to be crazy. Very good Byak dude.

>>11039304
Thanks and GGs, lets play again sometime. I think the game is more zone based though. I just have big normals.

Rehosting at >>11037185

>>11039369
GGs Hina, I keep getting my playtime interrupted.

>>11039369
GGs Renee, your byakuren is so intense. Those were some pretty fun matches.

I need to watch that replay again where I got max popularity. I think I went from 22% to max? That was weird.

>>11039512

something like that happened in this vid >>11038511

I dunno

>>11039562
Hmm, I wonder if you get max popularity when you start to make a comeback and connect a lot of hits in rapid succession, bringing your opponent's life to around your own? I was in a similar situation as Byakuren in that video. That's the only explanation I can really think of.

>>11039651
From my experience and the description on the wiki, it seems like the less health you have, the more popularity you are going to get when you beat the snot out of your opponents. If you're ALREADY popular (or at least more-so than your opponent) then it skyrochets at crazy rates, ESPECIALLY if you combine multiple popularity methods. Activating spellcard and then initiating a counter-hit combo that deals tons of damage on the enemy when you're at low health can push your popularity WAY up. I've seen popularity jump by twenty percent several times within moments, and rarely sometimes more.

I'm sad. My new summer work schedule seems to be interfering with my ability to play with everyone T-T
Does anyone have plans to host evening-ish on work days? It's so lonely having to go to bed early without anyone to play with TT-TT

>>11037185
Rehosting

>>11040116
Also I'm hosting. Just gonna do a game or two to test if hosting works properly.

Other new thread got deleted? The heck?

Remember to change the patch in the OP to 1.03b if you're making a thread.

>>11040121
I'm sorry, double post, but here's my IP. I'll be playing Miko, as usual.

My IP: 68.229.68.127

Also, I dislike IRC and all that crap but...

New thread
>>11040115