/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>11493787
I keep telling myself I'll go to bed, that was 4 hours ago.

>>11493789
Your soul is on an expedition, with your ship daughters, Teitoku. You can only sleep when they get back.

>>11493791
More or less the precise reason I can't goto sleep. I need to say goodnight to my girls first.

本日の「艦これ」全サーバ群共通メンテナンス＆アップデート、現在若干予定より遅れつつも、各作業進行中です。少しだけメンテ完了が遅れてしまう可能性もありますが、なるべく早い作業完了に努めます。また、状況、ご報告致します。

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>>11493793

They're seasoned veterans of the Imperial fleet, I think they can handle it if no one tucks them in at night.

Any Kancolle related documentaries to recommend while waiting for the game to go back up?

>>11493800
They don't need it, but I do.

Is there a translation program that uses OCR that lets me read KanColle's kanjis?

>>11493802
決断
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0L5wvWpwlo

>>11493815
Thanks.

So far I figured this game is about some sort of strategy and cute girls. But how is an actual gameplay? What is fun about this particular game? I haven't found much on wiki. I considering wasting my time on trying to get in it, but with my absent knowledge of moonish this feels like a drag.

All you need to know about CAs.

>>11493822
This is a wasting time grinding game. So go away

>>11493822
You click things and pray to the RNG god.
Would you flip it?

>>11493829
Can't forget that you also watch timers count down and other numbers count up.

Occasionally you poke ships too.

>>11493836
Ok, that looks much more suited to her historical performance.

>>11493836
Lvl?

>>11493826
So they essentially excel at nothing.

>>11493826
I'm gonna need translation. I can only into Chinese, not Japanese.

>>11493886

>>11493889
Teitoku: These are the compass girls. We'll leave them to decide on our headings in the future.

Secretary: This guy's hopeless...

>重巡「鈴谷」建造可能に！ →先のイベントで先行配信された重巡洋艦「鈴谷」が建造可能になりました！

Guess that makes her the 2nd craftable aircraft cruiser?

>>11493892
change that to "decide on our headings from now on."

>>11493893
>鈴谷
Suzuya? Neat.

>>11493893
With the amount of attention they are giving aviation cruisers, I'm getting this feeling that they'll play a role in the upcoming event.

Guess I gotta grind Mogami.

>>11493826
I didn't even know improved 20.3 cm guns existed.

Yet another thing to put on the list of "things to fail to craft."

>>11493892
>>11493900
Good wordings.

Remember Teitokus, you need to treat the compass girls with respect, even if they piss you off all the time.

>>11493905
Says right there that they're uncraftable.

>>11493905
It says there "uncraftable" and states Mikuma. You probably get it from leveling Mikuma.

Is 5-3 broken? It takes me to the first node which has nothing, then takes me to the SE sub node where it disconnects me. This happened twice in a row.

>>11493893
Cool, now I can finish that hybrid carrier quest.

>>11493893
Any confirmed recipe for her?

>>11493906
You're not safe even in this manga, Naka.

Anyone having this message?

According to Futaba her upgrade comes at lv55.

>>11493925
Is there some sort of historical reference of Naka-chan's infamy?

>>11493853
55

Remodel is level 55. Not THAT bad.

Not that strong either, but whatever.

>>11493936
>>11493937
Just realized her eye color changes after remodel. That's scary.

>>11493916
You -do- get it from leveling Mikuma.

>>11493943
It's because she's a vampire now.

>>11493944
well, that was fast.

>>11493944
What's the recipe?

>>11493950
I doubt anyone would craft specifically for CAs.

>>11493944
standard heavy cruiser recipe?

>>11493951
True, and judging from background, seems like a drop instead. 5-3?

>>11493953
Her card color is steel silver, so that should be from crafting. Maybe same recipe with rare ships, 250/30/200/30 ?

>>11493953
The sparkles indicate a build. I'm trying the standard CA recipe right now, but so far nothing.

>>11493957
>>11493956
Oh my bad, didn't realise her base color was silver background.

Guess her timer is 1:30 since it's mogami-class

>>11493917
Clear cache. Also, beware of the Flagship Ta-type BBs at the intersection where you'd be going SW towards boss. They... they hurt...

>>11493925
>>11493934
No, just how annoying it becomes when you are crafting and she shows up. See this page. Also, Aoba so cute.

I'll pause here for now.

>>11493925
>>11493934
No, it's just based on how annoying it is to get Naka-chan when you are trying to craft something else. See this page. Aoba so cute.

Sorry I posted a non-clean version earlier. I hope no one caught that. I'm pausing here for now, will finish later.

captcha: cleaned eriafe

>>11493971
God damn it, missed one of Aoba's bubble. The middle panel says "Admiral! Naka-chan quite is amazing!?"

>>11493805
How adorable.

>>11493893
I guess that should make trying to build I-58 less of a pain now.

Little things:
>戦闘後のファンファーレBGMを一新、勝利ランク毎に雰囲気が微妙に変わる仕様に更新されました！
Not sure what the conditions are to hear this music, haven't heard it yet.

>現在の最前戦#5-3に【夜戦】を中心とした新海域マップが追加実装されました！また、同海域の最深部では、先のイベントで先行実装された重巡洋艦「鈴谷」や、伊号潜水艦、五航戦などもゲット可能です！
I'm going to guess this just means 5-3 drops the stuff from last event like Suzuya, the subdaughters, and Shoukaku/Zuikaku?

Also did anyone happen to rank up high enough to get a present?

>>11493979
I heard the music when I was sent home for my flagship taking too much damage

Has anyone ever managed to sink a flagship class submarine with only 2 DDs?

>>11493979
Perfect victory also has a different tune

>>11493979
What rank do you have to be? Below 500?

I think this is beyond even Isuzu X's abilities.

>>11494007
>Going to night combat
>Against subs
Why.

>>11493937
Firepower on par with most heavy cruisers.

>>11494009
5-3 is night battle only, isn't it?

>>11494009

5-3 is only night battles with one node being pure subs.

>>11494016
It's "night battle centric", don't think that meant "night battle only".

Someone call Sendai.

Cut-in overkill attacks are always nice to watch, at least.

So, apparently it's not good to bring an anti-sub focused fleet because it'd distract your fleet from firing on the boss.

>>11494027
Huh, so only the boss node has day battle? Wonder if I should bring a carrier...

>>11494007
That's fine since most of the time they miss. I had one time where it ALL the subs activated their cut ins and it was rape heaven. The node after that is the problem for me. Those Flagship Ta-type BBs are either nice to you or not. But the problem would be that even if you do bring Imuya and Goya they have a nice chance of getting raped here. It's weird to have the Ta only do single digit damage on my DDs sometimes though.

>>11494027
I still haven't gotten past that forsaken sub node, there must be a setup to avoid that node and go north route instead.

>>11494034
I finally managed to take the more Northern route. Here was my setup. I'm 100% sure it's random though. I've used both Kitakami and Ooi before. Two BBs before. One SS before. Less than one DD before and they've sent me all to the Southern route

I'm done for today... I'm going to bed now, Kaga-san...

Just as I was upset about the swarm of submarines and level 1 flagships in PvP, Fuso went ahead and crafted another 46cm, followed by 3 turbines in a row. Now I have enough spare 46cms to do this.

I think I might be in love.

Poor guy.

Maybe tomorrow.

>>11494052
For a second there, you had me all excited that they snuck a level 70 Fuso remodel in the update.

Are subs really that important for 5-3? I'm aiming for Verniy, Isuzu-Kai2 and torpedo sisters to counter those subs, while the rest are BBs.

>>11494085
I wish.

But most ships will probably get their second modernizations sooner or later, so it's only a matter of time before the unlucky sisters get their day in the limelight.

>>11494093
Not really, subs are good at night battles and can serve as a distraction but that's about it. I think it's mostly just people messing with fleet line-ups to see if the sub node is skippable.

someone at Kyoani was playing too much

Scary.

>>11494101
That's how "Nightmare of the Solomon Sea" should be.

>>11494101
See, RJ? Ask the staff for new remodel if you want to get rid of your flatness.

>>11494104
>"Nightmare of the Solomon Sea"
What?

Please plain me.

what should I equip on CVLs/CVs? What color of plane is the best? (im not facing submarines atm).

What map is good for power leveling subs? Subs are targeted first and they are in the red after one sortie.

>>11494100

>>11494101
That white flag.
Rumor has it that Yudachi raised her white flag before being fired upon by USS Portland, which the American captain deliberately ignored, directing his gunnery officer to sink the son of a bitch.

>>11494114
Read the FAQ.

>>11493754
>Yamato herself didn't use them.
>these renewable oils were used by escort DDs such as Fuyutuki, Suzutuki and Yahagi, etc.
that's comforting, at least. can't imagine how bad it is to have pride of the IJN running on shitty fuel. Not to mention any buttdevastated nips.

although i would like to mention the original source that i got is from the US naval technical mission to Japan.

>>11494113
the first time i see those girls, it reminds me of COMIC LO.

>>11494119

>>11494100
>>11494119
>>11494175
Next up, archery boob protector thingy, sword replaced with bow, carrier deck pauldron, etc

Is this guy stating the formula for her?

>>11494183
Never seen that formula before, though I think it's inline with CV recipe.

Is 3-1 or 3-2 better for
1) XP to level my destroyer fleet to take on the boss
2) Kongou sister drops
?

3-1 seems to have tougher enemies since the fleets are entirely elite, 3-2's first node is always an easy fleet, but I'm not sure if I missed something that might make 3-1 easier. The steel node in 3-2 being better is another attraction as well. I did see a post before on grinding 3-2-1 (?), so was wondering about that as well. Sorry if this has been asked a lot.

>>11494201
The answer is always 3-2.

>>11494201
>3-2-1
for consistency sake, it's better to write it as 3-2-A.
and yeah, 3-2-A is the obvious choice.

>>11494183
Tried it, got Chitose.

Looking at Yuudachi Kai Ni's stats on wikiwiki, it appears she gets a unique destroyer red gun that has...1 additional firepower.

>>11494220
Yuudachi farm time.

>>11494183
>>11494211
Aoba here.
Goodbye precious materials.

>>11494228
i dare you.

>>11494237
Just like that Isuzu Kai Ni farm, eh

>>11494207
>>11494210
Thanks. So you just retreat after the first node no matter what? Too bad about the steel I guess.

>>11494246
Get the steel then reload the game.

That's what most people do

cant read moon here.
what do the stars underneath the ship levels mean?

also is it better to keep fuso/ise class BB's in BB mode or hybrid Carrier/BB remodel?

>>11494258
How close they are to their max stats.

Remodelling is really up to you if you're that picky about a few loss in firepower. Personally chose to remodel because of overall stats increase

From Futaba.

>>11494278
so basically you have a high likelihood to make it to 1 before the boss node and then an even higher likelihood compass shoots itself once it gets there

Just started recently, and I'm already struggling with the game:

What kind of fleet do you recommend?
I have tons of destroyers and light cruisers, but barely any heavy cruisers and 2 battleship. Absolutely 0 carriers.

I tried using Kongou and Kirishima, but having both gluttons at the same time is too much for my limited fuel income. So i'm running with 1 BB, 1 CA, 2 CL, 2DD, and I struggle a lot with 2-1 already.

>>11494278
>sub node 75%
Feels more like 90%.

>>11494291
>Just started recently
There, your problem right there. I mean, you just started, of course your resources are gonna be limited. Have you been doing expeditions? Mind you, I cleared all the way to 2-4 with 6 dds, had to change to bbs because 2-4 is a bitch.

Why aren't people's names showing up in pvp?

>>11494323
Use your vpn.

>>11494303
Well, I didn't expect to breeze through the maps. More like I was wondering if there isn't anything I can do to maximize results (such like fleet composition or battle formation).

Yeah, I'm sending my second and third fleet on 3 and 5 all the time, but even so, fuel is barely keeping up. I'm also cycling the daily quests.

>>11494291
Post a screencap of your fleet so we can laugh at how underleveled you are.

>>11494330
You only need 3x DD for expedition 3 and 1x CL 3x DD for expedition 5, if you are sending 6 ships then you will use more fuel than the expedition brings back.

You don't really have to use BB until world 2, heavy cruisers will bring you through world 1 easily, but you can start leveling them around 1-4 if you want.

Also don't excessively craft, just do enough to fulfill daily requirements and just aim to complete them. Fuel is usually the main limiting factor at the start though, it's normal.

>>11494331

>>11494337
thanks, duly noting your suggestions. Since I failed once expedition 3, it was my assumption I had to send a full fleet. At least, it was just a +/- 0 for the third expedition but meh.

>>11494346
Yep, looks like you are horribly underleveled alright.

>>11494347
The wikis are there for a purpose, especially if you;re unsure about expeditions. There;s a min. ships needed + flagship level as well as the type you need to bring to complete them.

Refer to wiki when in doubt.
Stop playing for a day or two if you really need to replenish fuel.

>>11494347
There is a minimum level requirement for the flagship, but it's like 2 or 3 or something, do check the 2 Japanese wikis to be sure.

If you want to do 2-1 and 2-2 with that fleet setup you need higher levels, if you want to get by with level ~10-15 you'll need 2 or 3 BB to be comfortably going through. Try farming 1-4 if you are having trouble until you get Chiyoda or Chitose and level her up, they are like baby carriers that don't use a lot of resources and get a lot better after the level 10 and 12 remodels. Try to slowly swap your DD and CL for CA, and don't be frustrated if you need to take a break and let resources recover, just go do something else and check back every 20min for expedition 3 or something.

bless the RNG gods of 2-2

>>11494129
what a douche, firing on someone who'd surrendered.

The only reports of building Suzuya at wikiwiki are using battleship recipes. I hope she's also attainable from 25/3/20/3.

>>11494418
>firing on someone who'd surrendered
that's ironic since he fired on Japanese

>>11494428
It's only ironic because the Portland was the ship Yuudachi torpedoed in the first place. More like a revenge shooting.

>>11494386
God damn you and your luck

>>11494420
Checked atwiki as well. No reports of Suzuya using the rare ship recipe either, just the battleship/heavy cruiser recipe orz.

So /jp/, have you gotten your daily dose of heart attack?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21957713

What if I made an English game like this ?
I was playing Kancolle for a week and then just stopped because the game plain sucks and it's not fun. I would love to play it because I love mecha musume and I need a fun game when I'm bored but there's no point playing Kancolle if it isn't fun and it can be a massive time sink as well.
Since coding a game like this isn't such a problem I was thinking if I could make a game like this. It would be 100% free to play and had ship, tank and plane girls, would be primary multiplayer with single player missions where you fight sea monster-girls, ghost ships or something. Instead of flash I would rather do it in Javascript or Java.
The biggest problem though is the gameplay. The game has to be simple but still entertaining and fun where you can any time come back and just have some fun playing it. I want to add more action to it while keeping it simple but I couldn't find the right combination.
If you want to discuss it (or not) let me know and we could make a new thread for it.

>>11494496
The biggest problem is art. People would eat shit up even though there's no gameplay involved as long as the girls are cute.

Can you really make hundreds of decent character designs?

>>11494509
That's bullshit and you know it.

Give the prettiest art and people would still not touch it if the game itself is crap. Unless you're some pervert that masturbate to whatever picture of cute girls there are

>>11494496
The main attraction of the game isn't really the game itself but the ships that come with it. Sure, the thread here is filled with gameplay discussion and what not, but all of this is pretty much how players take care of their girls. Another main attraction is the fact that this is a casual game with very simple mechanics. It's something you could play while you work/study. That said, a game like you mentioned would be readily welcomed but I would suggest you try to work on a prototype first.

>>11494513
Prettiest art, sure. But do note, that the game gives them personality so you could form attachment to them.

>>11494509
The art and voices would come from people from 4chan and the Internet. Of course I would pick only the good ones. It would be a community thing.
What I need in the first place is a good gameplay that would fun even without good visuals.

>>11494518
Yeah the thing even when he called Kancolle "boring", he's gonna use it's whole game-mechanics and "improve on it" to include planes, tanks and ships.

Oh best part? He wants to do it with Java AND make it completely free to play.

Game is probably doomed from the start of wherever he got this stupid idea from.

Maybe you can get it developed if you're rich or have talented friends who can help you with. But will people play it when you get it out? No. Because by the time you develop something like that, major publishers would have already gotten something even better out that makes yours look "boring" and plain "sucks".

>>11494346
>Lv 12 Isuzu
>repairing instead of remodelling her
Dohoho

>>11494518
Lets forget why the game is popular here. I just want a fun mecha musume game that's simple and casual - but it would have all the waifu stuff of Kancolle for people who enjoy these things. Actually I was thinking to add a dating simulator like interface, for the full waifu feeling.
I can't make a prototype if I don't have the gameplay. Without the gameplay I have no inspiration.

Welp, this thread went bad in a hurry. Can you guys take that egotistic guy and discuss your butthurt with him somewhere else? I have a lack of Musashi/Shinano event to cry about here. I just want a new special capital ship ;_;

To whoever participated during the august event.

What's generally the average level of your ships for a chance of getting Yamato? I've pretty much hit a wall in 4-3's compass so I figured I'd just concentrate on getting ready for Musashi. Were there also special nodes where you'd need a type of ship in order to reach the boss a la 3-2?

>>11494464
Ah, I can have a good night sleep. Thanks for this.

>>11494534
40s = you lucky motherfucker
50s = all muh resources
60s = doable
70s = safe

>>11494523
No need to be that hostile, anon just want to make a game, let him be. Hell, I'm pretty sure there are currently doujin games in the works right now. What he probably needs is a decent artist who could work with him but he would need to show that he has the skills needed to make the game.

>>11494528
A gameplay similar to FFT would probably be a good start.

>>11494523
I can't tell if you are trolling or just so dumb.

Has anyone crafted Suzuya from the cruiser recipe yet?

>>11494496
You're not gonna find anyone to participate in this project if you don't even have a single deliverable. You don't just go and say "you should hire me because I have confidence that the idea that I don't even have yet is going to turn out wonderfully".

>>11494537
So, no gimmicky "you must have x specific ship to pass" nodes during the event? I guess that makes things a lot easier then

>>11494550
From what I've seen on jp wikis, mostly everyone went with a recipe that can get you BBs/CVs and managed to get Suzuya from it.

Gonna try the 250//200/ recipe for tomorrow dailies.

Also, I honestly don't think this is the thread to be discussing >>11494496 big ambitions

>>11494553
Next event, YOU MUST HAVE NAKA-CHAN TO REACH BOSS NODE!

>>11494550
I'm not looking for anyone to participate. I just asked what gameplay it should have.

>>11494560
Joke is on them! I use Naka for expeditions!

>>11494561
Joke's on you! You need 6 of her!

The more I see this side of Shirainui, the more she grows on me. What the fuck is wrong with me?

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21575890
>5-way Naka-chan

>>11494569
So they solve this by selling a cash item that allows you to have 6 Naka-chans in a special fleet called the IDOL GROUP!

>>11494562
But you cannot have 6 Nakas in the same fleet!

>>11494553
E1 required some ASW cuz boss is sub.
in E2, ChitoChiyo made easier route.
2 DDs let you skip one combat in E3.
having one DD led you to the boss 100.

Sure you can just pray your compass, but leveling various type of ships really helps.
I still keep lv62 vanilla Chiyoda for some reasons.

>>11494525
woe is me. Completely forgot she could be remodeled early at that lvl. Will save the remodel for the next repair session

>>11494553
>>11494571

I meant

having one DD 100% led you to the south route and boss in E4.
North route's compass in E4 was so dirty.

As for levels, my lowest was lv47 Hiei other ships were around 60 or 70ish.
I think Lv60 fleet will do their job in E4 just fine.

>>11494570
Naka gets a 2nd remodel at level 48. Event boss drops an item called Graduation, an extra component needed for the 2nd remodel.

God, the repair system in this game is annoying.

At the very least they could allow autorepair in docks so I can leave for a day and have all ships back.

I bet most money they make is from selling those goddamn buckets.

300/30/300/30

Suzuya get!

>>11494609
>buying buckets
Expedition 2 for a week would solve all your bucket and ammo problems you might have.

>>11494609
Just be glad you didn't have to run around blindly in this game without knowledge of battle mechanics readily available in an English FAQ.

>>11494615
I got Mogami from that, so we're on the right track I guess? What's Suzuya's build time?

>>11494615
I'll hold you liable if you're pulling my leg anon.

>>11494615
>300/30/300/30
O_O

>>11494627
Get out.

>>11494624
1.5h, same as Mogami since she belongs to the same class.

And no, I'm not joking since I'm not the only one who went with standard recipe and not bb recipe.

>>11494619

I started doing exactly that today. But shit is still random as hell.

My overnight expeditions gave me 0 out of possible 4...

How come my ammo isn't regenerating anymore? Already cleared cache.

>>11494646
Then it's how you set up your expedition fleets. There's no RNG in expeditions.

>>11494646
Chance of getting buckets from that expedition is about 50%.
a Japanese guy noted his total 400 times of #2 expeditions.

4 normal DDs got 48 buckets out of 100 expeditions.
4 sparkled DDs got 54 buckets, 79 were great success.

6 normal DDs got 52 buckets out of 100 expeditions.
6 sparkled DDs got 44 buckets, include 99 of great success.

After these research, he has over 1200 buckets now.

need to unlock my 3rd fleet
>inb4 babby teitoku
already have 2411 and jintsu army
where do i go for sendai?

>>11494680
Sending sparkling fleet on 30 min expedition is kind of a pain the ass though. Unless you have 6 remodeled DDs sitting around that aren't attending to other expedition fleets.

>>11494682
Someone told me that they got her in 1-3 and 1-2. But I crafted her so I'm not sure.

>>11494680
I thought when you get great success you get the item drop 100%

>>11494701
That's certainly been the case with me.

>>11494682
I need to get mine as well, all I have is 2411 and I keep getting DDs or CVs trying to craft the other two.

I'm also stuck in RNG hell with 1-3 and can't make it to the boss node.

>>11494685
You're missing the point.
Most important thing this research tells is that we don't have to sparkle for expedition reward items.
With or without sparkle, you have 50% chance of getting buckets, at least for expedition #2.

I believe high level admirals include me has around 25 remodeled DDs for expeditions though.

>>11494701
It's not 100%. I've definitely not gotten great success with a fleet of all sparkling ships.

The game really wants me to be Isuzu farming non-stop. I just finished clearing out my stock and am now training my original Isuzu Kai, and all of a sudden I start getting Isuzu drops and crafts everywhere. I now have another 5 or 6 of her.

>>11494721
I'm going to stop after my current 6th one, what are you going to do with all those type 21 radars anyway?

>>11494728
Isuzu is nice anti air food too.

>silly Japs expecting Yanks to respect international laws and conventions

>>11494747
You can get more than enough duplicate CVL and BB to feed your ships, raising Isuzu specifically for that seems wasteful to me.

Will Ayanami ever get a gyaru makeover to make her less plain?

>>11494680

So if I spend more ships on expeditions there is higher drop chance?

Anybody researched how cruisers affect that?

Oh god guys. I just realized that the supposed "anti-air" cruiser that was hinted at in the magazine in the other thread may not be Maya at all.

Aoba.

On harder maps, is it better to stack torpedo planes to help neutralize weak targets early, or stack bombers to help damage the hard targets?

Or go for a balanced build? I've had Akagi with this loadout for my first 3 runs on 4-4. She does great damage against the CVs and BBs, but 80% she does more or less 0 damage on the opening bomb run.

>>11494826
Personally I don't use carriers to damage hard targets. When I do boss runs, Akagi and Kaga's job is to weed out the small fry so my BB's don't go full retard and use their strongest attack on the tiny destroyers like the retarded A.I. always does.

>>11494787
Not likely.
It's just spending more sparkled ships will increase the chance of great success.

For instance, There's a expedition #27, 20 hours one. It requires only two subs, i58 and i168, to complete. But sparkling both and send only two ships does NOT make it "great success" at all.
We have to fill the fleet with more sparkled ships, like four more sparkled DD to obtain 1200 steels as a reward.
Some says adding one sparkle ship will increase 15% of the chance of great success but we're still not sure.

>>11494788
Oh I can't believe I forgot about Aoba's AA upgrades. I did read through the entire Wikipedia page on her because I found her to be really cute.

I hope her firepower doesn't get nerfed, though, if it's indeed her who's getting the AA CA upgrade.

>>11494890
>I did read
I had read*

>>11494890
Aoba has AA upgrades? Never used her because of her "AA" capabilities since I found her stats pretty average. Only used her because of ... THE VOICE!

>>11494864
That's what I usually do too. The problem is that I'm using the boss route express fleet setup so I had to put Shimakaze/Yukikaze/Maya in my fleet.
With Haruna/Mutsu being my only big hitters, I needed Akagi to assist in taking out the big bads if they fail.

I'm also ASSUMING that this run will be the one where the boss spawns with 250 hp and is escorted by the "floating fortresses", I feel like I'll need all the big hitters I can squeeze into those 3 spots.

>>11494910
I was referring to the AA refits that she got in real life. Sorry, "AA upgrades" was vague. Check out her Wikipedia page.

>>11494910
Her stats are actually below average.

Neat.

>>11494924
The Battle of Cape Esperance? Wow.

Stop doing weird things to my dick, Kongou.

>>11494760
What worries me is that pretty much every second remodel comes with substantially larger breasts. I do understand that it means my shipdaughters are growing up and becoming self-sufficient, but flat chests deserve love too.

In fact, there were a fair number of ships that lost displacement after remodeling, so it might be possible for a ship to become more flat after the second upgrade.

2-4 boss, should I night battle?

>>11494994
Yes. You monster.

>>11494994
The enemy still has 3 relatively healthy battleships. I wouldn't. Also, I believe your levels are a tad low if you've suffered this much damage and only taken out the 2 small fry.

>>11494994
No. Enemy's BB turns will go first, if she hits your Haruna, it's pretty much over until you get Mutsu.

no

>>11494924
I'm sure it's been mentioned a long time ago, but 4-2 is curry, 4-3 is Sri Lanka, 4-4 is Madagascar.

>>11494994
No, you're going to lose.

>>11494992
RJ just locked herself crying in the washroom and wouldn't come out.

>>11495028
RJ is in good hands though, she at least has Zuihou as her flat chest sister.

>>11494710
Meanwhile I got Sendai and Jintsu right off the bat but Naka on the other hand...

>>11495028
RJ actually had a substantial increase in displacement (~2500 tons, I think) after her first refit, so she doesn't have anything to worry about.

Repatriation vessels and anything later converted into an escort or training ship (or minelayer, should we ever get Tokiwa) should beware, however.

>>11495007
The only low level ship in this was my flagship, being level 26. Everything else was +40 and haruna was 52.

>>11494959

I think I'm rushing this game too much. I'm at level 11, and I see others at roughly my level having remodeled versions of ships while I am barely halfway there on one of my ships for a remodel.

>>11495091
They probably grind practice matches or something. It's fine to play at your own pace.

>>11495091
Depends on the ship. There are a bunch of ships with level 10 - 12 remodels.

>>11494994
>can't damage boss
>ships have low HP
>"do I go into night fight ?"
guess what faggot

>>11495091
If you faggot read the wiki you would know ships can be remodeled at levels 20-25-30.

And here, we have the Hieis in their natural habitat: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21960174

>>11495111
Hey faggot, how does that even answer his question?

He's at level 11 and he says people near his level have remodeled versions. So why bring up level20++ remodels?

Faggot.

>>11495119
Ships are typically at higher level compared to the Admiral's rank, unless of course you're grinding expedition day in and out without sortie.

>>11495112
(ﾟдﾟ)クマー！！

if i remodel fuso into the aviation battleship and then i get hyuga, will i still be eligible to get the 4th fleet slot? or do i have to keep her in her pure BB form?

>>11495170
The Ise/Hyuga and Fuso/Yamashiro quests still work if the ships in question are remodeled.

>>11495174
holy shit thats what i was meant to ask. i just went full retard. u dont even need fuso for the 4th fleet and the other ship is yamashiro.

4:50am i should go to sleep but mah expedition daughters :/

>>11495181
>:/
Don't do that.

>>11495170

Is it even worth it to turn them into aviation battleships?

They can only field floatplanes right?

>>11495181
>no capitalization
>:/

>>>/v/
>>>/b/
>>>/out/

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm21952264?user_nicorepo

Let's kitakamikami

>>11495189
>>11495193
Autism or simple paranoia?
>>11495196
Except firepower every other stats increase.

>>11495196
given this question is answered about 10 times per thread since the beginning, I think this should be in capitalized letters in the the OP from now on..

>>11495196
Firepower drops a little, but every other stats increase like evasion, etc.
Increases the consumption as well though.

Also yes, floatplanes only

>>11495214
How about board etiquette?

>>11495214
Would you rather have an autist, a paranoid, or someone who can't figure things out for themselves and expresses themselves like a gradeschooler?

>>11495218
It's elitist paranoia then.
>>11495222
Can't I avoid both?

>>11495226
>elitist
I don't think the word means what you think it means.

>>11495226
Go to /a/ they will surely welcome you

>>11495189
>>11495193
Do what? :-) *le epic smile face*

>>11495230
Believing that your group's opinion about something, smilies in this case, should prevail on others' opinions is a form of elitism.
>>11495232
I tried it and I didn't like it.

>>11495249
>tfw I like Shigure

Aww, low blow, man. There isn't even a US sub in the same to do it.

>>11495256
>>11495232
Teitokus, pls no fight.

>>11495264
my harbour > your harbour

I swear, this game deliberately fucks me over on modernization. Normally, firepower is a lot harder to cap than armor, and so whenever I feed a newly remodeled ship the game gives me all the armor and only half the potential firepower. So now I remodel Furutaka, who starts out just 16 firepower but 28 armor below cap, feed her 14 firepower and armor worth of ships, gain 14 firepower and only 7 armor.

FUCK. And the other three old heavy cruisers are going to be remodeling soon and I'll need to feed them too before I try running 2-3 with them. Gonna need a whole lot of light cruisers to max out their armor if the game keeps doing this when I feed them BBs and CAs.

>>11495293
Modernisation's RNG is really the lesser issue in this game, it took me two, three days to maximise both KTKM and Oi after their lv.50 remodelling. On the other hand that trollish compass...

>>11495303
The compass is really the worst. I can put up with all the other RNG shit in the game included misses and crits but not being able to go where I want to go frustrates me so much.

>>11495303
>>11495313
The compass wouldn't bother me nearly as much if it weren't for one thing.

>>11495322
That's another relatively unimportant issue imo, you just have to wait a little. Rotate your fleet/ships to train some neglected daughters or do something else. Doing the same map over and over because compass doesn't comply is much more frustrating, especially on long ones.

>>11495313
Why the heck do we have to put up with a compass anyway? Is our navigation ability so terrible that we have to basically rely on luck to get from one place to another?

>>11495333
women can't navigate for shit, it's a fact.

>>11495333
admirals too busy getting frustrated over naka

>>11495333

I wonder how are they going to explain that in anime or the incoming more serious manga.

Those quests... they just sit there, taunting me...

>>11495345
Impenetrable fog, need the fairies to point the way. They're usually wrong.

>>11495345
They're trying to track something that can presumably go underwater at will. Some confusion is inevitable.

You should be glad that the entire Armada of the Depths doesn't work on submarine mechanics.

>>11495345
They'll treat it as if they can navigate fine with *absolutely* no problem arriving at where they want to

>>11495352
Now that you mention it, maybe they don't actually know where the heck their enemies are so they just spin a compass and decide where to go next until they run into something.

>>11495352

When you think about it these things are nightmare fuel.

I hope they start the show with normal fleet getting slaughtered.

Managed to get a Hibiki in 2-1. Wonder where should I go in order to grind her..

>>11495361
Muv-luv on sea with the Kancolle cast. What could go wrong?

>>11495363
321

This game knows my intentions. I run out of Isuzus to farm on, it has given me five today.

>>11495361
I could see it starting with an attack on a merchant ship before the DD escorts appear and save the convoy.

>>11495361
the abyss fleet is 100% nightmare bait.

>Shimakaze drop from 2-4 first node
I feel all warm and fuzzy inside

>>11495346
At least you cleared everything else, I stopped thinking about Hiryu, Cranes and Nagato class... now I wanted to get that aviation cruiser, instead I ended up crafting 15 heavy/light cruisers and a single BB (fucking Fuso)...

>>11495346
I've got those and still need to complete the 2-3 sortie missions for the subs and the old cruisers. Grinding Kumano to 35 is what's holding me back on the aviation cruiser one, since I don't really feel like spending my time doing it outside of practice battles and dailies.

>>11494254
I don't think reloading actually works anymore, done it a couple of times today, steel isn't changing.

>>11495377

We need a flashback or something from they first appeared.

Like monster girl Pearl Harbor.

>fed Yudachi to other ships whenever she comes up
>now that I want one she's nowhere to be seen

I can almost picture her laughing at me from unemployment center.

>>11495573
You deserved it. I just regret that I focused more on her sisters and I'm still at level 19.

>>11495573
I got rid of her long ago along with most of the Shiratsuyus, and I have no intention of bothering to grind one just for her new upgrade. Likewise with Hibiki, it's just not worth the effort and I'm trying to cut back on my playtime, not add to it.

Based RNG

So the very first time I sortie Isuzu Kai-2, she barely does enough damage to kill normal subs, then proceeds to get critted by the opening airstrike of 3x elite light carriers, which I normally take for granted will only ping me for single-digit damage.

What the fuck, she's doing worse than before I remodeled her. And yes, I already fed her a bunch of ships, her stats aren't maxed but they're better than they were.

So I'm lvl 29 right now, and I don't understand how all these admirals I'm facing in practice mode have lvl 30-40+ ships when my highest ship is also 29.

>>11495256
>Believing that your group's opinion about something, smilies in this case, should prevail on others' opinions is a form of elitism.
Every community with any standards for anything is "elitist" but people have standards for reasons.

>>11495703
The ratio of ship EXP to admiral EXP is not constant.

Also, if you're raising a whole fleet to high levels as opposed to one fleet + 3 low-level expeditionary squads, that could be it also.

What's so special about Yudachi that makes her deserve a second remodel and boosting her stats to a heavy cruiser levels? From what I am reading, she's just sinking Destroyers here and there, nothing else really notable.

>>11493886
I didn't notice the suggestions while working on this part but I think the way I worded things is fine.

>>11493889
The faces of evil are so cute.

>>11493906
Irritated just didn't have the right amount of oomph.

>>11493925
Sadly there was no room for a bear pun.

>>11495744
>boosting her stats to a heavy cruiser levels
The only stat that even comes close is firepower. She's barely on par with Yukishima and Russian Hibiki now.

Her wikiwiki page is more detailed than the English or Japanese Wikipedia page, if you haven't read that already, but I agree that she doesn't seem so special to get a 2nd remodel.

Non-H Kancolle doujinshis has been popping up more and more on sadpanda, but they're almost always in Chinese (and extremely poorly translated to boot).

Where are the damn raws?

>>11493971

>>11495802
See >>11493972
I missed the bubble on the right.

>>11495807
Secret boss.

I'm stepping out for a bit.

What is on your schedule of shit to actually get done in game today?

>>11495851
Unrealistically: Get Yudachi to level 55 for second remodel
Realistically: Get Yudachi to 20 for first remodel.

>>11495851
One level/day for Fuso. Three 46cm/radar attempts. Preliminary trials at 4-2, push through if the fleet ends up undamaged.

>>11495851
Getting 10k oil after failed 30 Nagato crafting attempts

>>11495851
1am eurofag here so for now sleeping. tomorrow will be :
- trying to beat the last two times of 4-4
- trying to beat 3-4
- 4 crafts + 4 quest crafts of nagato/zuikaku/suzuya/I58 attempts
- 4 crafts + 4 quest crafts of radars
- getting a yuudachi drop
- Hibiki lv60 -> lv63+

>>11495871
How do you not have a Yudachi? I had tons of her.

>>11495851
Wait on repairs to get done. Clear 4-4, hopefully for the last time.
Without using buckets I can only manage about 2-3 attempts per day, so I really hope I don't get diverted at the last node again.

If I manage to complete that, start grinding Kaga/Kongou/Hiei in preparation for 3-4.

How do you get ranking points anyway?

>>11495851

Fix the steel problem I have encountered after attempting to make 46cm guns.

>Try to get Shoukaku
>Get Souryuu instead

...that works too. Now I have a Nagato, Akagi, and Souryuu

>>11495851
Try to get Sendai, grind up fleet at world 1-3, maybe try and go through 2-1. Also, Expedition 5 all day every day

>>11495851
Ponder whether or not to start hating money for Emergency Repair Workers/Goddess' or painfully consider the strategy of gambling and sacrificing SS and DDs just to get through 5-3. I could also wait out for a better strategy and camp their twitter for tips on it. Or I could just take it easy, ignore 5-3 for now, and wait for their next event to start hating money.

Secondary objective is just go get Yudachi to 40.

I'm about to run 2-4. Is there a setup better than: 46/41/15.5/Zuiun on aviation battleships, and red red blue green/yellow on carriers?

>>11495880
scrap/meatshield.
she didn't have any value beside mild cuteness (to me) before today, so I just happened not to have any.
I'm busy working on that lv61hibiki anyway.. I'll get yuudachi eventually again, and work on her.

>>11495807
And that's why I bought the futon. Definitely. I fixed the missing bubble on the last page and here I changed "Gen" to "A" just because I think it flows better.

>>11495851
I'm going to pour all my resources down the drain, same as usual. Maybe clear 4-3 if the compass is kind.

>>11495913
You probably only need one recon plane in your fleet and it might as well be a saiun. This gives you an extra slot on your BBVs to work with. I recommend another main gun.

Finally beat 2-4, went the whole way without taking a hit until boss node and Haruna drops after my Haruna deals the finishing blow. Also shout outs to KTKM-sama and Ooi for each taking down a BB in pre-battle phase.

>4-4 final phase, night phase
>Boss down to 120 HP, accompanied only by flagship submarine
>DDs fire futilely at sub
>Mutsu hits boss for 40
>Haruna hits boss for 20
>Welp, guess I'll have to try agai-
>摩耶様の攻撃、喰らえ～っ！
>combo attack, 56 damage, 43 damage
>Boss defeated, 4-4 cleared

I take back everything bad I ever said about heavy cruisers

>>11495930
I still have one furniture craft item left. I wonder if I could make that ofuro.

Why does my quest thing blink?

How do I make my ships miss less often?

>>11495973
Radars

>>11495976
Do I need one for every ship or do I only need one for the entire fleet?

>>11495851
Pray to every RNG goddess out there so that 3-2 compass won't fuck up this time

>>11495977
Every ship who you would like to miss less often.

>>11495977
Do you think ships in WW2 could share radar info with their friendly ships in real time with high enough accuracy allowing the said friendly ships to land hits on enemies?

>>11495973
Level them up/15.5 secondary gun/ radar/saiun/single vertical line formation.

>>11495985
I'm not sure if level actually affects accuracy directly in any way. Enemies might have better evasion at higher levels, but I think that's it.

>>11495841
I keep reading this one in the wrong order.

>>11495984
Seeing as how the radio was invented long before then and ships don't move very quickly, how not?

>>11496043
Now try coordinating that with all of the ships in your fleet, compensating for the differences in the positions relative to the ship with the radar.

How do I do 3 + 5 PvP matches for the dailies when the list doesn't refresh until tomorrow?

>>11496177
Pro tip: The list refreshes every 3am and 3pm JST

>>11496177
Practice battle list refreshes twice a day.

>>11496177
Please read the wiki.

Got my Atago yesterday and Shimakaze today. Time to actually start leveling people up.

I just fought a solo level 45 Yuudachi with the fleet name "1st Fleet" in English. Was that any of you?

What the heck, I got Kaga and Hiryuu from 2-2 boss but still waiting on Kongou and Haruna... not even sure whether to be happy or annoyed about the drop. Saw the gold background, had some hope, then... uh.

>>11496294
> Hiryuu
> 2-2
Hiryuu, not Hiyou?

>>11496190
Shimakaze/Yukikaze kai are really tough cookies. Once fully upgraded, they can do 300+ pts dmg with torpedo, while getting away from most enemy fire unscathed.

>>11496301
Oh oops wrong one, I got Souryuu. Sorry.

Just got Yukikaze now. Lucky me

Is there any farming spots other than 3-2 and, to an extent, 2-2?

>>11496325
4-1. You can clear more than 1 node done at a time, so you don't build up fatigue as quickly.

So I've made it past 2-4...

It's okay Kitakami (level 43), you can sleep now ;_;

>>11496341
Nah.

>>11496341
She's just sleeping in the bathhouse right?
RIGHT???

>>11496341
Say it ain't so, Teitoku.

I got my Yomi, I mean Atago.

I am so happy now.

p.s. maintaining 3 Heavy Cruiser on early game is.. heavy.

>>11496039
Yes, that one is sorta strangely divided. It has a mini-broken transition for the panels.

Have you accepted her as your goddess yet?

>>11496409
A wild Isuzu appears, literally.

>>11496425
Not stray?

How do you guys set your flagship?
The ones you like? The one who want to level up fastest? Or even the one with least HP?

Thank you anon.

>>11496442
All three. Depends on the situation.

>>11496442
Depends on what I am doing. Leveling? Whoever is the lowest/the one I need the most for a map. During sorties? Whoever has the lowest hp or level/The best config for night battle/Whoever I don't want to get hit.

What does the difference in the text mean when you get a ship via sorie? I thought at first when it had the additional text below it meant you got a new ship, but that isn't the case.

>>11496431
Wording says wild. Stray uses different characters.

Just until level 12, they say. No escape, Isuzu.

>>11496457
Are you getting that additional text in 1-1 or 1-2? If so, it's just a tutorial message saying something along the lines of you should try putting her in the main fleet.

My i-168 sunk on a sortie

Cheer me up, /jp/ ;_;

>>11496460

>>11496484
You're pretty stupid for letting that happen.

>>11496496
I..i thought it won't get sunk on 1-2 maps..

I.. thought...

;_;

>>11496500
You probably don't know how the flagship system do you?

>>11496500
You probably didn't set her as your flagship did you?

>>11496484
I wish i had a sub, i'd take good care of her, would use her a lot and would never let her sink

>>11496493
Run away Isuzu, before it's too late!

>>11496526
>>11496527

I remember I was doing some quests and forgot to change it back.

It was only on 1-2 too... Why would the A.I all out attack her? I don't understand anything anymore.

;_;

>>11496500
Happened to me too, because I pressed the wrong button. Then I tried crafting for her 60 times and got her back back, along with 1 Shimakaze, 2 Yukikaze, and 1 I-58.

>>11496527
You will realize it's really hard to keep her in your fleet. Every time you finish a battle, she'll always end up in orange or red. It's painful to see her suffering for a long time.

Still, subs are cute.

>>11496543
Because subs are high priority targets and WILL be targeted until sunk.
That's why I always use my sub as flagship so she won't sink and to take fire away from my weaker ships.

>>11496549
>>11496552
Thank you anon, I feel better now.. I hope I will get her again someday...

>>11496553
I will take note of it for next time... If there is any...

>>11496529
Poor Akagi. You're so crazy for food it's silly.

>>11496570
Don't worry, she'll come back. Some other fleet will probably pick her up stranded on some island there and return her to you though you'll have to make a new "equipment" for her again
If only things work that way

I alt tabbed while modernizing my Ooi, then tabbed back thinking I got another one when it was just the post modernization screen.

...And I just lost my Kagerou (25) against 3-2 boss battle and got a rank C.

I was so shocked I even forgot to SS my blunder.

Goddammit Shimakaze, if you only cut-in attacked the flagship and not the fucking DD ;_;

>>11496581
I have no idea what this joke is about really.

>>11496611
I might be too base here, but is it just that he is a premature ejaculator?

>>11496610
>level 25
I think your loss is justifiable now.

>>11496622
He is.

>>11496552
That's what I never got about subs.

When I fought in PVP or PVE, subs seemed to be crazy awesome. You could shoot everything at it and it would just take 1 damage or evade.

But then when I got my own sub she seemed to be taking crits every other battle.

>>11496611
>>11496622
The Japanese original raw says Kakeru/かける, which I searched up and does not lead to ejaculations or anything related. I really have no clue what it means. Also thanks for reading. We're done!

>>11496663
Uh, yes it does...

>>11496663
Isn't it a euphemism?

>>11496663
The term "bukakkeru" ring a bell to you?

>>11496665
>>11496671
I can't into Japanese. Does it look like I can ever into Japanese? I survive through Japanese games solely by reading kanji because I'm Chinese.

>>11496679
Then maybe you shouldn't be trying to translate doujinshis? The Chinese translation are laughable enough as it is.

>>11496692
Feel free to redirect the manga to any other translator groups. I'm sure they'll do a better job than me.

>>11496709
For some reason, sometimes whatever I upload gets changed into completely random pictures.

>>11496716
It's been happening more or more often lately. The image you posted gets swapped with someone else's that has the exact same filename.

>>11496716
So, out of curiosity, what picture did the other person get?

>10 times 400/100/601/30
>10 times heavy cruisers

fml.

>>11496758
I'm already at world5, need that last Nagato to complete my collection.

>>11496756
It's normal. You can still get to world 2 with heavies.

>>11496760
My mistake, good luck with that.

>>11496756
6 times 400/30/600/30
6 CA, three are Maya

Maya, i like you, but not right now, please go

>>11496764
Luck? Fuck luck, that thing is a lie. I even rolled a dice a few times to see how lucky I am and I got a triple 6, but RNG here gives me shit.

whinewhinewhinewhinewhineeee

>>11496774
The probability of rolling a triple 6 is way much higher than getting a Nagato though, considering the huge sample space for ships. That said, I need a Mutsu, Hiryuu and that fucking beaver to finish my page one.

>>11496777
>beaver
Who?

>>11496777
You guys have it easy. The pool for rare ships is small. Follow the right recipe and eventually you'll get the right ship.

My problem, on the other hand... I've been playing for 3 months now and I've been trying to get her every day. 30/30/30/30 recipes 10 times a day, Stage 1 runs at least a dozen times, still no Sazanami. I have every other rare ship (barring those uncraftable ones) but this is boggling my mind.

So I guess I'm completely at the compass's mercy for this map.

>>11496784
The one who looks like beaver

>>11496784

>>11496785
At least she's not important in any quest. I need Ikazuchi for one.

>>11496784
Yukikaze.