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I'm reading Amatarasu Little Star. I just had to download a 1.5 GB voice patch, because the original sound quality was absolute shit.
It's pretty ridiculous for a new release that's 5 GB in size already.

Still no sign of Izayoi no Fortuna. I hope someone uploads it sooner or later.

I'm reading Amatarasu Riddle Star. I just had to download a 1.5 GB voice patch, because the original sound quality was absolute shit.
It's pretty ridiculous for a new release that's 5 GB in size already.

What's OP?

>>11698229
A faggot.

Just getting back home from a 2 month travel and it's time to take it easy. Any good moege from last month, or to be released this month?

>>11698186
How is it so far? I saw mixed reviews.

>>11698232
Comedian act made of golden material.

>>11698229
一番じゃなきゃダメですかっ？

>>11698236
A lot of crazy and weird shit going on so far. I'm expecting it to get really lewd.

Also, apparently MoteYaba is a pretty well-received. I love the art, but I'm finding the common route boring and hoping it gets better in the individual routes.

>>11698257
The story doesn't really get much better in the routes to be honest.

>>11698241
>一番じゃなきゃダメですかっ？
Thanks.

Just finished Sekien no Inganock. It was pretty good though a couple of the lewd scenes felt unnecessary.

I still don't get the whole Kerkan and Ruaha thing at all.

>>11698279
Kerkan saw Ruaha as a woman and the rest was pseudo romance stuff. She's human so they more or less love each other well enough
Read the webnovels too.

>>11698147
>>11698241
Source?
Do they fuck?

>>11698304
I understood the concept just not the speed at which he went from brooding over "I must kill all humans so they don't suffer" to "I must put it in because that's obviously why she is getting naked".

Yeah, I'm almost done the webnovels. Will Shikkoku no Sharnoth make for a good choice for my next read?

This thing. Just started, still in common route.

It's dull, the voice actors aren't very strong and the name makes me angry. But a moege is a moege.

>>11698314
Are you brain-damaged?

>>11698327
Only if you've read Celenaria imo. Otherwise a lot of the things they talk about won't really make sense if your only introduction to Kadath was Inganock.

Last three things I read were:
Subahibi: Goes without saying fucking great. I'd be okay with losing my memory and rereading it again.
Sumaga: It was okay. Felt like I was reading some Shounen manga or something, with porn thrown in. It was really long.
Oretsuba Prelude: Really well written.

I guess the obvious choice would be to go read OretsubaR now but I'm not sure. I'm worried it is going to be so good that everything else I read after it is going to be so boring or something. I want to read WA2, DCIII (Does X-rated have more content other than, well, hscenes?), or something else. Or maybe a moege. How's 大図書館の羊飼い? I've had that downloaded for awhile now.

Anyway, any advice or should I go with the obvious choice of action and read Oretsuba?

>>11698340
Daitoshokan has some really nice dialogue and fun characters, but Oretsuba is much better if you can stand Nishimata's art.

>>11698257
I heard the routes aren't good either, except for the imouto it seems. Good thing since I'm just playing it for the incest.

>>11698330
I know right, it sounds like a title from a LN. It's okay though.

>>11698334
Just as much as you

>>11698348
Kanae's route is good too. Maina's and Aoba's aren't too bad overall, but they more or less just brush off the issue of being in love due to the magic and the former's ends with a dumb contradiction. Miya's is average.

>>11698335
>Celenaria
And here I thought Inganock was the first one for some reason... Guess I better cracking on Celenaria then...

>>11698387
I liked Celenaria quite a lot, but most people seem to think it's the worst of the series I think Valusia is much worse and skippable for some reason, but I really wish I had read it before going into Sharnoth just because of how isolated Inganock's setting was. Also, it's pretty short and ends up being pretty relevant in Valusia once you get to that one.

>>11698405
I didn't like it that much, but I'd still say it's better than most of what Valusia had to offer.

Just finished rewrite a couple of hours ago, was a good run.

;_;

>>11698427
Now go read Saihate no Ima. It's basically what rewrite could have been if it wasn't for key or the non-Romeo writers.

新作エロゲを買いませんか？ (2013年12月版)
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm22416138

>>11698437
Senjou no floklore just maybe? I kinda want to download the trial and check the gameplay first since I tend to suck at most of what eroge uses as gameplay.

>>11698437
I'm so out of the loop these days, been a while since I completed an eroge.
Thankfully next year looks great.

Finally gave up on actually playing Sengoku Hime 3 and just downloaded a 100% save; every single event is viewable from the omake section so I'm not missing out on anything (other than the various one-liners where I can only replay the voice). At the rate I was playing it was going to take me at least twice as long as Otosen 1, which had nearly deterred me from touching another gesen18 VN due to how long it took to finish. I can't imagine anyone autistic enough to legitimately play through all the games in the series (they just recently came out with 5 now? jesus fuck).

I just caught a Japanese cold though, leaving me with no energy to fap, so I started playing MGQ3 and trying to win every fight on the first try. Even if I lose it's usually one by THAT guy so I just skim through the scene and retry.

>>11698335
After reading Sharnoth it really bugged me how Ixrec always says reading Celenaria is unnecessary for the rest of the series. Sure, the main plot of Sharnoth is independent, but it really has so many side references to stuff from Celenaria (and the Celenaria fandisc is VERY relevant, although there it was kind of the reverse case, lots of the stuff in it made more sense after reading Sharnoth). I recall someone on the amaterasu forums bitching about how the characters in Sharnoth kept obsessing over the sky and then it never had anything to do with the main plot; if they had read Celenaria first it wouldn't have seemed odd at all.

>>11698477
>it wouldn't have seemed odd at all.
The game still makes a really huge point on it in itself, I mean, the pope in it declared a point that let just a little bit of sunlight in London a miracle, it was obviously a big deal.
I read Celenaria afterwards and then re read sharnoth for the FVR and some things really made more sense.

>>11698427
Rewrite was shit, at least try not to have your writers contradict each other.

I might be getting back into VN after not playing/reading one for a few read by getting a new laptop, does the whole translation software like ATLAS still work or is there a new thing out there? Also for shit and giggles does VNs work on those window surface tablets or should I just get a normal laptop/built a new PC?

>>11698477
>After reading Sharnoth it really bugged me how Ixrec always says reading Celenaria is unnecessary for the rest of the series.
It's worth noting that Ixrec is barely literate in Japanese. It's best not to take his opinion on anything too seriously.

>>11698504
Also, it's good to note that Sakurai has a pretty distinct writing style that didn't come across at all in what Ixrec released.

>>11698437
Vaguely interested in あやめの町とお姫様, but I'll wait for some reviews first.

>>11698437
Nothing really stands out. I'm vaguely interested in the new LoS game, but I still have Magical Charming installed and yet to start.

>>11698437
I'll be playing ラブレプリカ and あやめの町とお姫様 this month. I'm actually downloading the Love Replica trailer right now. I have for some reason really high hopes. I can report back.

Can someone explain this joke to me? If context helps, they just had their first night and he accidentally came inside her after she asked her not to.

>>11698437
Love Replica seems like it might be decent.
The main heroine from Ayame no Machi to Ohime-sama looks really charming for some reason, even though I usually find long black-haired girls plain. Will probably download the trials for these two.

Overall it's a pretty weak December.

I'm looking forward to Tsuyokiss Next just to see if they can rehash Tsuyokiss for the third time but with different character this time.

>>11698147
What am I meant to do if I can't read moon runes?
Just look at the pictures and make my own story?

>>11698818
Yes.
That's what everyone in this thread actually does.

>>11698437
あやめの町とお姫様 looks nice, but I didn't play that company's other game, so I'm not sure what to expect from it. I think I'll download the trial and see.

>>11698818
That's what we all do.

Hello, a newfag here. I am thinking about actually buying the my Girlfriend is the President game. The girls seem cute and the premise is so retarded that the game has to be fun. Only VN:s I have read are the Muv-Luv trilogy.

Is this game even nearly worth 35$? Or is it just a piece of crap with cute girls and shitty plot?

>>11698818
The stories you infer from simply looking at the pictures will actually tend to be better than the real thing.

>>11698833
It happens to me with nukige, the scenes I imagine from the CG set are a lot hotter than the real ones.

Reading the trial for the new minori game. Totally feels like Perseus winter edition, seems like they're sticking to a formula that sells games which is fine by me. Not even expecting a side-route for Rin, nope, tits are too small.

>>11698747
There are myths regarding vinegar and birth control, I wonder if that is?

>>11698915
that is really nice underwear

>>11698927
It's along the lines of what i was thinking, that's probably it, thanks.

If only real girls were as nice as the girls in VN...

>>11698835
I thought it was cute, though not as good as some of Alcot's other games. The routes are also really repetitive.

>>11698977
We wouldn't be playing VNs.
We would still be, right?

>>11698977
If only real girls fell in love with me instantly like girls in VNs, and even girls that I just knew from preschool were saving their virginity for me.

>>11698992
The world would basically need a 5 to 1 girl:boy ratio and polygamy would be mandatory while boys are separated in mains and bros or also called eunuchs.

What sites do you guys visit apart from 4chan? 2ch/chan, EGS?

>>11699000
Even with those odds I'd probably be still alone.

>>11698986
I'd still play VNs.
I like reading life stories from another perspective, even if the plot is complete shit.

>>11699062
>>11698986
Very intelligent use of the spoiler function.

>>11698345
I was never bothered by Key art or R07 stuff so I'm sure I'll be okay. I kind of liked the art in the prelude anyway.

>>11698835
I couldn't finish one route. There are so many better things you can spend your money on.

Is anyone else getting a laughable number of bugs from otome switch even after applying the latest update?

Backlog doesn't work properly if you load a save at anytime or go back to the title no sounds will play.

I'm hoping this is just me but christ this game is buggy.

>>11699163
I'm not having either of those problems on 1.13.

>>11699241
That's really fucking odd, I guess I'll try a clean install then.

>>11699252
This is pretty strange, even after a clean install and both with and without the patch I'm still getting the same problems. I'm starting to think there is something wrong with the one I downloaded.

Is there some patch order I'm missing or something? on the main site it says 1.13 has all of the current fixes but I guess it can never hurt to ask.

Crap.

There's no translation for Celenaria is there...

>>11699434
If you must ask the answer is almost certainly no.

What do you play your VNs on? I'm trying to look for a laptop.

>>11699458
A state of the art PC with 36GB of DDR4 RAM, a 16-core CPU and 6TB in SSDs.

>>11698915
This image made me go grab the trial on an impulse (and a rather primal one at that) without knowing a single thing about it.

I have just now learned that the Rin you're referring to is in fact the girl in that image (considering what I've heard and seen of Perseus, I should have known when you said "tits are too small") and from what I've seen on the Internet she's not a heroine. Serves me right.

Oh well, at least it looks pretty.

>>11699458
Are you looking for something cheap? Used Thinkpads are nice. I got my T400 for $130 from dell refurbished in Canada and it was near mint. Though I don't use it very much, it's for emergencies or something.

>>11699458
Desktop PC with a 24" monitor. I sometimes switch to my hooked 42" TV for VNs with high res art.

>>11699551
Pretty sure that's not how resolution works.

I don't think there is one considering the type of game it is, but does Daitosho have a particular or preferred route order?

>>11699605
All you need to know is that Kodachi's route is locked until you do at least 2 of the other routes. Finishing Kodachi's route unlocks another route with new endings for the other heroines.

Besides that, just do the routes in the order you want.

>>11699587
*VN systems that don't look like shit at 1980x1080

>>11699635
I thought it was just one for Kodachi's route?

>>11699723
I'm pretty sure it was two of them.

>>11699754
Seiya-Saiga is saying two, but G-Seeker and another site are saying just one.
Personally, I only have Kodachi's and Tamamo's route cleared as well it seems looking at the CGs and stuff I have unlocked.

Why is it that moeges never have a main character capable of keeping his fucking emotions concealed? I thought I was supposed to be able to self-insert in these? I don't think even the most socially inept japanese otaku is this bad about blurting out what they're thinking/letting it show on their face.

So annoying.

>>11699994
Because japanese never let out what they actually think so a really spontanous character that blurts out shit is good escapism

>>11698747
I'm actually interested in particle に here, after 煮物. Here it means "and"? "Fried food, boiled food and vinegared dish."? I often see に between food names and found myself guessing what does it means.

>>11700270
Ask your teacher.

>>11698747
In Japan it is said that pregnant woman like sour food.
酢の物 taste sour.

What's an easy to read VN?

>>11700430
Strawberry feels.

Moteyaba is the dullest, most boring eroge I've ever read, Jesus Christ. Aren't you supposed to have some kind of gimmick in your generic moege, at least to pretend like you're different from everybody else?

Since I'm slowly getting into VNs, and having just finished the first route of F/SN, should I continue doing the other routes? I cared for Sabre more as a character than Sakure or Rin, and was really content with doing just that first route, but if they are as enjoyable as the first routes, I'd consider it.

Otherwise, have my eye on majikoi, assuming it is ever completely translated.

>>11700472
It's cute it's fun and it has a sister route so fuck you get some taste instead.

>>11700478
I didn't find it particularly cute or fun, many are like that
>and it has a sister route
Oh come on, so many things have one by now it's barely a selling point.

>>11700481
Maybe you just shouldn't be playing moege.

>>11700477
yes, story is more important than heroines in FSN
Rin route is more like Archer route
and Sakura route is more like Shirou's dilemma route

>>11700483
Maybe you should start sucking dicks.

>>11700487
At least Sakura is relevant in her route, Rin pretty much has to wait for that route to get some real development.

EROGE FIGHT

>>11700481
Then you aren't suited to play moege games, go find some more "serious" VNs to play

>>11700487
Fair enough, thanks.

>>11700493
I don't mind moege, but it has to have SOMETHING beyond 100% moe nothingness, even if it's only a little bit. Like, say, yuzusoft games. Those work fine with me.

>>11700472
>some kind of gimmick in your generic moege
But there IS a gimmick.

>>11700498
Well it doesn't help that it has a pretty non-existent plot honestly

>>11700502
Is it actually a gimmick if it just makes it even more generic?

>>11700503
Again, it's a charage, you play it for the characters and the cuteness. Most of them are "generic". They're supposed to be fun and heartwarming, if you're looking for original ideas you shouldn't be reading these.

>>11698147
Different anon from >>11698314 but source?
I haven't been checking the last year releases and I like its artstyle.

>>11700513
Then it at least should have compelling characters.

>>11700493
>>11700513
Not that guy, but the characters weren't really a strong point in MoteYaba. Even if they're generic, they can still cute. I guess the writer just sucks at cute interactions and making the girls appealing.
Only good thing was the art, but even then it was kinda inconsistent.

>>11700564
Not really? The only thing these games need is one or more heroines that could appeal to you for a bazillion possible reasons.

What is the most epic VN released in 2013?

>>11700631
>epic
>>>/v/

>>11700631
Epic as in "great in scale"?

>>11700640
Yes
>>11700641
Those plebs don't know nihongo

>>11700643
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=789309

>>11700655
>cyclet
no thank you

>>11700631
That shota elves one.

>>11700643
Grisaia no Rakuen perhaps?
Also KKK if you're counting Akebono no Hikari.

>>11700640
Epic as in a VN in poetry format.

>>11700643
戦場のフォークロア looks like it's going to be pretty epic.
The writer is unknown though.

For already released games I think it's Chusingura and Reminiscence, both had problems but they're still pretty epic.

>>11700745
Should I read Akatsuki before Reminiscence? What is the relationship between both of them?

>>11700631
http://erogamescape.dyndns.org/~ap2/ero/toukei_kaiseki/toukei_median.php?data_suu=5&year=2013&month=1

Monmusu quest according to the above

六波羅の最強武人。

How many hours a day do you devote to reading visual novels?

>>11701545
1-2 I have other hobbies

>>11701545
0.

>>11701545
I don't "devote" any time to any given hobby. Some days I feel like reading for an hour, other days I feel like reading for ten hours, and sometimes none at all.

>>11701545
All the free time minus the time i spend doing other stuff.

>>11701545
every night i play for 2hrs if VN is good i can play it for 6hrs

>>11701545
around 3 fiddy

>>11701545
All the hours that I don't spend sleeping I spend reading visual novels. So, 16 hours.

>>11701545
I try to read a route/day, so 3-4 hours if I feel like it and longer for weekends, tend to leave longer VNs for it.

Is there any novel that you have two protagonists, but in your average sol setting? I mean, one where X protagonists has like two or three possible romances only to him and Y has the same only to him and both help each other to conquer then?

Well, I got bored of bad moeges in remarkable time after learning japanese.
I guess the new challenge begins now: finding shit worth reading.

>>11701873
Myself;yourself I think, didn't read it.

>>11701878
Nice thing about knowing Japanese is that you're not limited to just VNs. With the relative dearth of good VNs lately I've been clearing some of my JRPG backlog. Or you could read a novel.

Is it normal to be hung up over a VN for weeks after finishing it?

I still can't stop thinking about Baldr Sky. I find myself listening to the OST way too much.

>>11701908
How are Japanese novels? I kinda want to start reading those, if only for an excuse as to why I learned Japanese.

Do you guys pick your nose while playing visual novels?

>>11701925
I run into this problem when i spend over a week with a single VN that has a decent set of characters, looking at you Tsujidou-san

>>11701927
I like Japanese scifi novels.

>>11701927
No idea, I haven't branched out into novels yet. I really want to read 吾輩は猫である sometime, though. I've also heard 村上春樹 is a really good writer.

>>11701948
村上春樹 is a massive massive westaboo chuuni.

Which you may or may not like.

Personally, his chuuni gets to be way too much sometimes.

>>11701944
Nope, that would be rude towards the girls

>>11701927
The only Japanese novel I've read was the steam punk one Sakurai wrote from last year and that was pretty nice if you like her other stuff. Of course, I personally think that the way she wrote certain parts would work better in an ADV game. Aside from that, I haven't really read any actual Japanese novels aside from the beginning of 1Q84, which I thought was pretty good.

Guys is there seriously no happy ending for aoba in moteyaba? or does they come together again after separating?

>>11702030
You didn't watch past the credits?

The girl in the OP picture looks like a slut!

>>11702051
She must have learned it from your mom

>>11702044
No, i closed at that point and my current computer doesnt have the game.im redownloading right now, but it'd be really great if somebody could spoil me since i cant really wait for tomorrow to learn that.

>>11701953
I've read a few of his books and the ones that aren't 世界の終りとハードボイルド・ワンダーランド just feel like they're all the same novel. Disappointed.

>>11702060
You don't even need to reach the credits, actually.

They reunite a bit before the credits and declare their pure, undying everlasting burning love for each other, now without the shackles of the magic thingy because he asks his sister to undo it. Then they are shown happy with each other, then the credits roll, then they have a kinky sex scene involving cream.

>>11702060

They get back together again and they are viewing aurora borealis in the country she mentioned earlier on in the game, they are back together by their own merit and are no longer bound by the ritual, her family has recovered from the finical issues and in fact has gotten even richer since that point. she makes a statement that implies that he will be her husband in the future and they will spend the rest of thier lives together

I pretty sure that's how her route ended, correct me if i;m wrong

What do you call those thick lines on the thighs of pantyhose?

>>11702070
Oh thats really seriously great.if the game would end at that point i wouldnt even read other routes and just delete the game.now i can redownload it without any problem.Thank you very much.

>>11702075
a piece of elastic material? does it even have a name?

>>11702072
thank you very much my friend,really both of you guys are best.

>>11702085
If it has moe potential, it has a name.

>>11702091
I honestly can't find the name for it, sorry anon

>>11702085
Everything as a name. The plastic thing on shoe laces has a name.

>>11702075
I assume you're referring to the hem?

>>11702120
the thing on the tip of your shoelace is called a aglet or a aiglet. I'm just saying i can't find said name for what he is looking for

>>11702137
Whatever that part that's darker than the rest on the upper thigh is.

>>11702155
Google and Wikipedia have led my to believe it's simply called a "panty".
>> However, the panty or upper part of the pantyhose is often made with cotton or other porous material.

>>11702213
Yes, the hose part just refers to the fact it covers your legs. So it's just panties when referring to the panty part.

>>11702075
Is that something that even occurs in real life? I can't find anything similar on the internet, and it may not have a name yet if it doesn't exist. This is your chance to make eroge history by naming an aspect of an article of clothing! Try not to fuck it up.

Those lines are normally only on stockings, not pantyhose, and its the end of the stocking, where the garter belt attaches.

Are we talking about pantyhose or stockings? If you're talking about the thick elastic band on stockings, it's called the hem.

>>11702370
Pantyhose, not stockings.

>>11702373
Then I have no idea what "thick lines on the thighs" even refers to. Do you have a picture of the thing you're talking about?

>>11702386
The picture in the OP.

>>11702389
What are the lines even for? Decoration?

>>11702389
Those are either decorative or she's wearing stockings over her pantyhose. Either way, they don't come standard with pantyhose, so I doubt they'd be given a specific name.

How have you guys not seen this before? They're on 99% of all eroge heroines that wear pantyhose.

>>11702405
It's called a control top.

I found out. They're called "control top" pantyhose.

Most annoying character! i can't understand i like Michiru voice in Grisaia, but here my ears hurt

>>11703663
Michiru's voice is music to one's years, pleb. Now Komari's seiyuu really takes the fucking cake. I was horrified to hear her pop up in FutaPara, nearly the exact same character type and all. Fucking hell.

>>11703663
Get through your thick head is a different character first.

相州戦神館學園 八命陣　PV3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBMQ3yu8HvA

>>11704029
Looks like some edgy chuu2 shit. Yawn~

So I just finished yesterday my third monthly pick (Sakuoto, HHG Ragnarok and Moteyaba), is there any other 'worth' release that I missed? No EA please.

>>11704029
Am I a bad person for not wanting a Rinko route so she can end with her childhood friend?
Mizuki is so main heroine the rest deserve something too.

>>11704273
I agree, a little bit of something wouldn't be bad for the ones.

>>11704273
That's what I like about Kajiri Kamui Kagura.
Chuunigames are better with OTPs rather than harems.

>>11704285
I wouldn't mind a love triangle with Akira and Mizuki, Akira really likes him and there's her whole father stuff, so I'd like that.
Ayumi is jus so fucking weird personality-wise, like she's fundamentally broken or something and it's just pretending.

http://www.tigresoft.com/reminiscence_recollect/

>レミニセンスの続編にあたり、前作のヒロインたちのアフターストーリーに加え、新規ルート追加のレミニセンス完結編。
Looks like the story will be complete this time... or so they say.

If you have to use a text hooker then you're not really reading Japanese.

Stop kidding yourselves.

>>11704292
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE.

>>11704294
As a matter of fact, text hookers are the best way to use dictionaries, pasting a kanji>>>having to look it up.

>>11704292
Yeah right, at this point it's probably better to expect the company collapsing before we get any form of ending without something that leads to a sequel.

>>11704289
Ayumi herself told Harumitsu that "they've" got a Westermarck thing going on when it comes to Yoshiya, though I don't recall getting any confirmation of that from Akira.

>>11704306
I guess that's due to the time fuckery the game has going on.
Still waiting for a trial in which they show their new-old uniforms.

>>11704266
someone?

>>11704328
VBG if gameplay or tnetacles is your thing.

>>11704029
>That BGM
Sounds like something you'd hear in Ys.
I love it.

>>11704530
I'm not, guess it's backlog time until next year then.

>>11704631
I wouldn't really recommend gensou no idea if that's on your backlog.

>>11704647
Why? Is it bad? It got a decent score on EGS.

>>11704696
On a personal opinion, I didn't think it was very good, much less 80-good, drags out a lot despite being 20 something hours long, the writing is quite boring and the couple of battles it has aren't good.
A coupe of the heroines are good, I can give it that, but the plot is quite shabby and lacked proper exploration of some other things that were mentioned and more than half of the cast was left undeveloped.

ひとつ飛ばし恋愛 seems to be a surprisingly fun read.

It doesn't do anything new and it's not particularly funny, but... It at least has ENERGY over the competition. It kind of feels like whoever wrote it had fun doing it.

>>11700477
Saber is really prominent in the other routes as well.

>>11704712
I really enjoy the 4th wall breaking, though I do realize it'd get old if everyone did the same.

>>11704700
I've already read Gensou. My only problem with it is the red protagonist side, have the only bad heroine and for all that I could care I hoped that Noel would throw the bus on Himawari, like seriously, please let that girl die.

Finally finished Asairo after a hiatus.

I was tearing up before I knew it, what the hell.

>>11704960

Soon you will feel empty for the fact you won't be able to forget and re-read to relive the same feeling. Enjoy the afterglow!

>>11705002
Right now I just kinda feel sad for Araragi and 青姉。Especially 青姉, she never stood a chance.

>I give up on Rail soft, usually they have interesting settings and plots but their horrible writing tends to ruin the flow and characters while reading. This time however the plot itself is lackluster, reminiscent of the game about a ship wandering around that either Rail or Liar soft made.

#rekt

>>11705172
Who the hell are you quoting? Seriously, you didn't even link to a post.

>>11705180
http://omochikaeri.wordpress.com/2013/12/01/december-2013-eroge-releases/

He's quoting grumpy green's comments on Astelight.

>>11705183
>If all it took to make a game good was artwork and H scenes there would be nothing but nukige.
Wow this guy is DOUCHEBAG

>>11700244
You mean the introverts these games are marketed at. Not Japanese. Stereotyping an entire people isn't good.

>>11705197
Shut up you stupid anti-racist cunt, it's part of their culture.

>>11705197
>Stereotyping an entire people isn't good.
>implying Japs = people
lel

>>11705172
>Did not play the first game, will not play the second. This series is about as interesting as it would be were it a game about the life of britney spears.

White Album

>>11705183
>another fortissimo rerelease
Why. At least they put the best girl on the cover this time.

>>11705172
>>11705183

Why does this guy even play eroge?

>>11705440
I don't think he does anymore. Why he still writes on Micchi's blog is a mystery.

>>11705440
No idea. He seems like one of those guy who just continues with his hobby even though he hates it.

>>11705465
Sounds like me.

I can't believe people even still read that blog.

>>11705183
I can kinda understand where Green's coming from even if I personally like generic moege shit. There aren't really any good games being released with a few exceptions. There are so many VNs that I've read and forgotten about because they're generic to the point where they all mix together. They might be cute to look at for a few hours, but there's nothing exciting about them.

Honestly I find Blue more annoying, he never shuts up about imoutos.

>>11705519
It's not even about the games being generic or masterpieces. They are both biased as hell: Blue loves his imoutos and whenever those are involved he fails to give a decent analysis, green hates everything without even taking a look at whatever he tries to criticize.

It's nice that they make a list of eroge every month, but trying to get helpful opinions from them is an exercise in futility because they are both too far gone into their own extremes.

>>11701945
>Nagatani Dai

>>11705953

Root Harem.

Wow, this feels like a doujin game.

>>11706136
There aren't enough adv games that display more than 4 lines of text in my opinion.

Man I can't wait for LaDea next year. I hope there's no pushback or bullshit like that, so I will start learning moon now and can play it then.

>>11706145
They need to artificially lengthen the game somehow.

>>11706518
It's the same amount of total text, it's going to take the same amount of time regardless of how much text is on screen at once.

>>11706500
Yeah...learning moon is so easy....

>>11706612
You can learn enough Japanese to understand even the most difficult VN without a dictionary in less than a week if you're not severely brain damaged.

>>11706622
most japanese people wouldn't even get everything in the hardest VNs, you're full of shit

unless you mean the ixrec definition of "understand"

>>11706622
How?

>>11706628
All you need to know is learn how to say, "I'll pay you to translate this for me" in Japanese. That takes 20 minutes, tops.

>>11706612
Considering the large amount of easily accessible free resources for learning the language as well as tools specifically made to help someone, who is still learning the language, read VNs. I would say that it isn't exactly an unclimbable mountain of a task.

>>11706636
Why would you need to know how to say that in Japanese?

>>11704700
For me what I didn't like was mostly how it ended since it made much more sense for it to end in a sort of harem way instead of individual heroine epilogues where every other girl apparently just vanishes.

I found the writing strange but generally fine when you think of it as a story that looked and sounded to be a chuuni but ended up telling a story about something else.

That may as well had been the writers intention from the start since it seemed to stop and make fun of other chuuni stories at some points.

Sorry to be pleb central but the only VN i played was KS, is there anything like that in that romance/depression genre that I can just download and play for 3-5hrs?

>>11706923
search vndb for utsuge

good luck finding anything quality for a 3-5 hour read, unless you want retard rape.

>>11706926
KS was around 5 hrs though, I thought most VN's would be that long to be honest

I thought I'd finished every route, but I'm missing this CG. What did I miss?
White Album 2

>>11706946
Go read F/SN please. Come back when you finish all 3 routes, or when you think it's definitely not for you.

>>11706946
He said "quality".

And no, average is more like 20 hours or so, with some being way longer.

>>11706953
Again I am all for trying it out if it's in the genre or close to that I asked for although again I'm a noob, how would I go about reading F/SN.

I don't know how you guys take to noobs asking for help though.

>>11706960
That is good I'm up for a good read. The F/SN sounds interesting.

>>11706965
forgive me for posting a /a/ picture here

>>11706971
>torrent
I'm more of a DDL type of person, does anyone have a DDL of the game by any chance? And thank you for the pic to figure out how to play it.

5 days wow.

>>11706990
http://erogedownload.com/downloads/fatestay-night/

>>11706990
>5 days wow.

Naturally, it's a lot faster if you don't have the voices on and read at a decent pace.

>>11706993
Thank you. So is this an application or do I need to use Daemon tools?

>>11706994
I see. Well if it's good I won't mind the long read.

>>11706994
>not listening to every sentence possible
Get out, now.

My god this thread is balls

>>11707004
Muramasa is shit and overrated.

Better now?

>>11706998
Because this is /jp/, someone has to say it: if at all possible, read it in Japanese instead of English. The translation, while not terrible, completely butchers Nasu's writing style.

Why is nobody working on a Monobeno translation? I thought all this "Imouto licks your ear"-business would spark one. It's also good.

>>11707006
People can read Kanji here? Fluently? I can speak it decently but I still can't read that shit

>>11707007
Too many lame puns and weird dialects. Translating it would be a pain in the ass.

>>11707011
This thread is primarily for untranslated VNs. Most of the discussion of translated stuff happens in /vg/.

>>11707011
Most people (I'd hope) here can read and/or speak Japanese fluently, probably some people using TL programs here as well.

>>11707018
>>11707021
Oh wow I didn't know that. I feel noob as fuck even more now. Thanks guys I am going to try to download all the files for Fate/Stay Night.

If I have any problems I'll ask if I find another thread like these. Thanks for all the help

>>11706952
ok nevermind got it, my fault for not replaying from the start.

>>11707026
>>11706993
ok what the fuck. I put in the captcha, wait the damn 115 seconds and when I push the create download link ...nothing loads the webpage just goes blank

>>11707000
Sorry for not worshiping VN voice actors.

>>11707046
You're essentially not even a real fan

>>11707048
Fate/Stay Night didn't even have voices until the all-ages version.

>>11707044
Just torrent it like a normal person.

>>11707044
Thanks for letting us know

>>11707059
i was kinda asking for help on why this is happening

>>11707054
i haven't torrented in years, i don't feel like starting now

>>11707065
Well it's tough to give help when everyone else is using the torrent.

>>11707065
Try using a different browser or something. It's supposed to just connect you to the download server when you click on the button. It worked when I tried it.

>>11707069
yeah you are right, I understand. If I can't figure this out I'll probably just bite the bullet and just torrent it.
>>11707071
That's what I'm thinking it is or an addblock or something is stopping it from loading.

>>11707007
Why don't you translate it?

Just started 空色の風琴. The lack of voices is sort of putting me off and I see reviews saying that the scenario is lackluster, but I really like the art and music.

>>11700745
Isn't it by the creator ofキャッスルファンタジア ～聖魔大戦～? I thought でぼの巣製作所 are trying to attract people with this.

Is there a VN with some FFM threesomes? I don't really care which gender is the protag as long as the two girls touch/kiss each other.

>>11707639
That's GAY and you just triggered my homophobia, please put such indecencies in spoiler tags in the future.

>>11707652

That's not what surprise boxes are for, anon.

>>11698147
I decided to download that and will it, OP. I hope it's not shit.

Were there big changes to Chaos;Head Noah? I've already read the original, but Noah is free on PS+ for Vita at the moment so I'm not too sure if it would be worth re-reading it. Especially if Chaos;Child has references to things added into the Noah version.

I just finished Taiyou no Promia, and it was simply amazing.

I can't recall the last time I enjoyed a VN so much. The plot was interestingly constructed, with every route showing new details and completing the others, and it made me smile too many times to count. (there was one point I missed, though, what was Flarerouge? A body for Promia that had lost its memories and grew up as a normal human?)
The music was also great, I fell in love with
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vV_ukw4f0g
(slight spoiler warning) which was played quite often, but still managed to make the mood every time. There wasn't a single moment I felt bored while playing it.

I liked every single character (with the exception of a certain villain who has too little screentime) which given that it's essentially a charage makes it a success. Even Flarerouge, who I thought would be a cliche tsundere warrior, was far more honest and sweet than I assumed. Promia has to be the most adorable baby I've ever seen. Elegano's benevolent trolling ("I'll take care of the baby tonight, we can't have her seeing you two FUG ALL NIGHT") was some of the best I've seen. Most of all, though, I liked Rino-Reno, I'm a sucker for eternal lolis but she's even better than usual. Her maturity, experience, cuteness, voice, and playfulness had my full attention from beginning to end, and both her H-scenes and ending were incredibly cute.

In a few weeks, I'll play the FD, and some other time I'll replay the main game. For now, I'll start some nukige, because I'm not sure I can easily find something I'll enjoy so much. That was seriously good.

>>11707816
I forgot to mention that I loved the way it played the "light=good" thing completely straight, and did it well. I was expecting some "it was actually evil" twist, and was pleasantly surprised. Everything was warm, bright and glorious, as is fitting of the city of the sun.

Yeah, I enjoyed Promia a whole lot too, rather underrated game. Never read their next game, didn't hear good things.

>>11707811
Routes for all heroines, like with S;G

This is going well, I can read all the kanjis so far!

>>11707881
Thanks. Maybe I'll skip through some of the older parts to find the newer content. Got a pretty big backlog so not really worth fully rereading something.

>>11707954
Those are easy

Blue
and
Black

>>11707961
That's the joke.

Very interesting to see how the acquired knowledge of clichés present in otaku media allows a reader only mildly versed in japanese to be able to know the reading of a kanji.

>>11707961
it's green

>>11707988
Green is 緑

You ain't fooling me

>>11707811
It got routes for all heroines, all with bad ends and most way better than the true route. So yeah, it's very much worth a read.
>>11707881
S;G doesn't actually have routes for heroines, you make a wrong choice one main route and get a short ending, and there is one for each heroine. C;H Noah actually has full routes for each heroine and they are not that short.

>>11707961
>>11707988
>>11707989
This thread isn't for the discussion of elementary school kanji, take it to the /a/ japanese threads.

>>11707961
You're wrong, it's...green!

>>11707961
>Those are easy

>Blue
>and
>Black
You missed 晶, moron.

>>11707997
Yeah well maybe I just felt embarrassed of mentioning a guy with a gay name like Crystal? You ever thought about that m8?

>>11707985
If you don’t know 今、日、穿、何 or 色 you have a problem m8.

>>11707997
And 毎日笑顔

I expected literary value out of this, but apparently pantie colours is all there is.

>>11708003
I didn't knew 穿いてる.

>>11708008
That's really all the literary value I need.

>>11707985
what was her response?

>>11707989
no, green's 翆

>>11708008

Wow that's a really cute expression.

Omochikaeri~

Man, Nukige can actually be good when they cater to your fetishes, and it's only beginning too. I can see this one lasting many faps.

>>11708043
Damn, this VN is really terrible.

I sure do love /newjp/ - babby tier japanese and tech support

Why is everyone shitting themselves over one generic VN?

>>11708069
Get that fucking white box out of there, this may be a sfw board but you don't have to care seeing as none of us have jobs.

>>11708082
I don't get it, porn games belong to a sfw board.

>>11708115
You must protect the underdog.

>>11708105
What kind of terrible taste would you have to have to choose the osananajimi over the meido?

>>11708105
下級生 always.

I hate when I only noticed I went the wrong route when it's too late.

>>11708105
osananajimi is the worst kind of character ever
I guess it only works with people who have one

>>11708176
>osananajimi is the worst kind of character ever
I think you mean tsundere.

>>11708186
What about an osanajimi tsundere?

>>11708186
I think you mean okaa-san.

>>11708191
How can they be the worst if they barely exist outside of themed nukige?

>>11708190
Just add glasses and then you'll have a candidate for worst character ever.

>>11708190
I can't believe there are writers who actually think those are a good idea.

>>11708200
They can be really cute, sometimes, basically when the MC has been with her so long that he knows she's just being tsundere and can see through her.

>>11708202
An MC seeing through a tsundere? Does that ever even happen?

>>11708202
I think the whole tsundere act is only cute with lolis. With older girls it's just pig disgusting.

I miss tsunderes that honestly just don't like the protagonist at first and he has to win them over somehow. The modern bipolar bitch type is horrible.

I actually agree with the MC here, really cute.

>>11708226

I was also surprised that she got me to like her. Then again the change in character doesn't really make any sense.

>>11708226
I really hated her.

>>11708236
She was too stuck in her own research and doesn't like boys, Sho showed her a really kind side and since she's never experienced love before, she became loveable. Classic meltdown.

>>11708252

"Classic" doesn't make it any less bullshit. The japanese can't into consistency.

>>11708176
I've come across a few that I actually really liked even though I've never had one.

Ikikoi. There are a lot of small things that bug me, but its overall going good so far.

Can someone upload the 12の月のイヴ trial onto Mega or something? I can't find a link that's not on the main site.

>>11708983
http://www1.axfc.net/u/3108771
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share?s=r_NUb7tKR18rGu8m8LsV80
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share?s=MswuVPdfSCsrX5xcWJK2bI
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share?s=oro6kY4HR0wq9mgwyLcPto
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share?s=ZDP85wSIQVQuM7KJeWnU2A
https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share?s=cuzPghjfSgEqeRRLix_ULI

These are some of the links on the official site. Should be pretty fast for the main data since it's on Amazon's servers. The password for the first link is "12eve".

>>11708995
Thanks Anon. You're awesome.

>>11707993
can you play chaos;head noah on pc? According to vndb there is a windows version but I can't find it anywhere.

Does anybody have a cd-key handy for Caucasus by any chance?

>>11707816
>>11707869
The subsequent releases didn't add anything, right?

Has anyone tried reading this? I'm kinda interested in Sugita's writing, and I heard that it's been well-received, too.

>>11708983
Minori is so broke now they have to make nukige to make some money.
I will still fap to them all.

How is 運命予報をお知らせします?
I was reading the official site and the setting seems pretty interesting, but how was the actual execution?

Would i lose much by playing the all ages version of himawari? The possibility of playing it on my tablet really interests me.

>>11710596
You get better backgrounds, more CGs and actual voice acting at the expense of worse music. It also has the side stories which are a must for the fandisk.

>>11710600
That seems like a good tradeoff, I'm going with this version then. Are there any other good android VNs?

>>11709455
There is no windows version. If you are really desperate you can get the PSP version to work on the PC with an emulator. I tried it and it works.

>>11709455
Yeah, the guys on TLwiki managed to hack the Xbox version to run on the PC.
But that was before the whole "Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games" so good luck finding the tools needed.

>>11710974
but that's wrong. He just found a way tot ransfer the Noah content into the PC version, and he didn't event do it cos' the project died soon after because of the reason you mentioned.

Bump limit could be higher.

>>11711057
Considering how slowly threads die, it's not important.

>>11710967
>>11710974
I wanted to play it on pc so I can use ITH + TA, but I guess I'll just play it on ps3. Thanks!

Excuse me for requesting things..
I wonder if anyone still have this kurukuru soundtrack album http://vgmdb.net/album/31550
Every link I get is dead or no seeders anymore.
Thank you.

>>11711255
https://mega.co.nz/#!a5ZGzIyR!KyfY4AoMir3DynwLU6TIRQUS7b4LGEvX-a6Y1mlVr_w
https://mega.co.nz/#!m0JERAKY!V4f3oRNOE-2Nj2-qyqMMWAbrwhwgULdKwi_cxee2z4I
https://mega.co.nz/#!T8BARIAB!G3RBFhWbZaIIJrD2cNPHrw7GP-E6Q7ByEoJn6gUz86w

>>11711329
Thank you so much!

>>11704047
Hey, it's better another "edgy" game from Type-moon.
Fate/shit and its target audience of fate/kids are the worst tumors that happened to grow on TM virgin body that cannot create anything now. All we get is sameface everywhere.
>Mahoyo a shit
>Fate/CCC
>Tsukihime
>Brb Nasu's studying Paradise Lost's edgy-ness

>>11711638
>Makes a unrelated post just to shitpost about a popular series when nobody cares about your opinion.

Please go to /vg/ if you want to shitpost about a series.

>>11711638
I guess you'd know a lot about cancer.

>11711656
Shit writing is shit writing.
When has TM wrote a story that's in anyway or form related to lolgrails, really they can't create anything new now.
Mahoyo was edgy old as fuck, Turkey Handle remake will always be a Turkey Handle even if you increased the production value.

Even CCC's cosmology all that shit about, trichiliocosm-shit, Nayuta-shit and Muryoutaisuu-shit, sounds like they're shamelessly copyshifting to a cosmology like to PL/KKK/DI. Get the fuckout of by Buddhism/Hinduism shit Nasu.

What happened to the ROOT-shit where servants and phenomenons came from?

The only good thing about CCC was AUO, well really that's the only good thing about it. Original > Fakers.

>>11710549
I've been reading that, slowly, at the same time as several other things. The writing isn't bad, and it does some interesting things. Aside from the weird art I like it, definitely worth giving it a try at least.

>>11711656
Shit writing is shit writing
.When has TM wrote a story that's in anyway or form related to lolgrails, really they can't create anything new right now.

Good Writing works on two levels, general structure and subtlety of prose. While a translation strips the latter but you can always see the former and Nasu has some of the worst pacing you've have ever read, serously 4mb worth of nothing.
I can't believe it's just author repeating himself a hundred times like his readers are braindead monkeys or rewriting the characters to behave as dumb as possible. General structure makes up the vast majority of an author's talent and it's no surprise that the big names /a/ & /jp/ are fond of fail miserably enough at it to be stuck writing for this industry.

Mahoyo was edgy old as fuck and Turkey Handle remake will always be a Turkey Handle-shut even if you increased the production value by a factor of 10. It's not a substitute for good writing. Shit will be shit if it's written like shit.

>>11711803
What a good writer writes: This is a fanfiction lol
Did nasu ever wrote something on a level of this excerpt?

"The footfalls of sandals alerted Father Hughes to his young acolyte’s arrival long before his frantic voice.
“Father! Father! The sign in the heavens has come, just as you said it would.”
The room Father Hughes prayed in was small. It was a tiny cubicle of gray stone that had worn down with age and was marked by the Holy motifs of Him. As far as players of prayer went, it was humble. A fact more unusual given the grandeur of the palace it was located within. But it was an old place, and while the palace had steadily grown and become more baroquely beautiful with time, the little chapel remained as it always had been; a simple little gothic structure dedicated to Him and Him alone. There was no need for gold, silver or great works of art painted by the best. Faith was all that was needed in the small chapel and Father Hughes’ heart brimmed with it at the acolyte’s news. "

Even CCC's cosmology all that shit about, trichiliocosm-shit, Nayuta-shit and Muryoutaisuu-shit, sounds like they're shamelessly copyshifting to a cosmology like PL/KKK/DI. Get the fuckout of my Buddhism/Hinduism shit Nasu.
What happened to the ROOT-shit where servants and phenomenons came from?

>>11711807
Oh well ROOT-shit is mosly irrelevant in the discussion outside of lol!Zelretch.

I guess the shift in cosmology would make it easy for Nasu to fakewrite a plot similar to Chuunishits like DI/KKK/PL.

What if they're Nukige-shit, Netorare-shit, plain old shit and chuu2-shit? Everything is up to the writer's capability to make it work, regardless of the the genre.

Nasu is good as a dreamer and constructor of his Nasuverse but he's fucking terrible as a writer. If you disagree with that then you didn't read a single good book in your entire life. Because Nasu's writing skills are on the same level as some shitty Harry Potter fan fiction or "gaming" literature.
Nasu really failed to learn "show don't tell" lesson in writing school, who the fuck releases 5+ character materials to answer questions that contradicts his very-own story. It's like a bad fanfiction writer that has to explain to the reader wtf he's reading every chapter.

The only good thing about CCC was AUO, well really that's the only good thing about it. Original > Fakers.

Seriously is /jp/ full of uneducated pork who never read any decent literature, eroge, chuunishit and randomshit? Ever? or is everyone on this board Hongfire goblins living off machine translations?

>>11711803
>>11711807
>>11711816

Well shit, you turned a shitpost into a decent set of posts while still getting the same point across, consider me somewhat impressed.

>>11711816
>Nasu really failed to learn "show don't tell" lesson in writing school
This is actually my number one complaint about Romeo as well. He's a "clever" writer, and is good at choosing his words, but I wouldn't really call him a "good" writer outside the context of the eroge industry. Good writers keep their infodumps to a minimum.

>>11711803
>>11711807
>>11711816
I don't think anyone here disagrees with Masada being a much better writer than Nasu.
Your first post looks like the typical /a/v/ level shitpost and was treated as such.

>>11711905
His subsequent posts don't looks much better.

>>11711827
Samefag pls leave.

Those posts are incoherent shit through and through.

>>11711874
This.
It's hard to break the habit though, once you go down the path of infodump writing until your editor(competent) tells you to stop. You're future work will most likely include a lot of infordumps.

I'd prefer if the most authors info-dump in small pieces, instead of dropping it entire explanation in a middle of damn fight scene :/

Another is incompetent characters; There's always an incompetent antagonist to make the protagonist 'look' competent.
>Various characters fiction

>>11711905
Sometimes you just have to summarize writing a long as post in shit-post format.

>>11711656
>>11711827
are the same person

>>11711638
>>11711803
>>11711807
>>11711816
is a different person


Is it that hard to follow a conversation?

>>11711934
No you don't, and I imagine more people would be receptive to your opinion if you didn't sound like you'd just taken some sort of massive cranial trauma or spent the whole day drinking.

>>11711932
See picture

>>11711874
This.
It's hard to break the habit though, once you go down the path of infodump you'll likely to infodump later, until your editor(competent) tells you to stop. I doubt that though; competent editors that don't suck-up are hard to find.

>>11711905
Sometimes you just have to summarize writing a long ass post in shit-post format.

>>11711932
The .gif bro
I'm this guy.

Did two routes of ひとつ飛ばし恋愛.
Actually pretty funny in parts, especially considering it's from japan. I even dislike the whole tsukkomi schtick. Lotion ending in Risa's route made me laugh a lot.

But other than Risa the heroines all seem pretty boring and the art is quite bad. Fapping to a character I can pretend to have some sort of emotional attachment to is half the fun I have with this kind of game.
I think this is it for this one.

>>11711945
Those must be tough to fake.

>>11711945
Why are you impersonating me?

>>11711953
I seriously don't give enough of a fuck about this conversation to waste time editing paint pictures.

>>11711950
Has there been a single eroge that has had an editor on staff? Honest question.

>>11711874
> Good writers keep their infodumps to a minimum
What about Les Miserables, War and peace, and Moby Dick?

>>11711956
While you are having fun editing with paint.

>>11711960
There will be times when you'll need to impart information to the reader, and this is perfectly acceptable. It only becomes a "dump" when there's too much of it concentrated in one place, or when it's largely irrelevant or unnecessary.

>>11711960
I get your point, but those were all written in the 19th century. Writers back then fucking loved infodumps and run-on sentences. It was a mark of being "high class" and "educated."

I couldn't get through any of the three of them, to be honest. Especially Dickens, God I hate his writing style.

>>11711977
Er, I meant to mention Great Expectations in that post in case anyone was confused by the reference to Dickens.

Man, >>11704047 got his payoff pretty late, but I guess it was a good one.

Starting wa2
The journey begins

>>11712036
Man after watching episode 10 I really want to start it, will probably do after the new years.

>>11711874
The only Romeo game with infodump is Saihate no Ima and it's a game that actually played with the idea of infodump due to its structure.

>>11710602
Play the original with the voice patch. I prefer the original music much more than the all-ages version. Also only 3 or so CGs were added iirc, wasn't impressed when I played it. But I'm pretty biased, whatever you want.

>>11710602
Play the original with the voice patch. I prefer the original music much more than the all-ages version. Also only 3 or so CGs were added iirc, wasn't impressed when I played it. The downside is that you'll need to reread/get a save for the all ages version to read the side stories. But I'm pretty biased, whatever you want.

>>11710549
Nearly 12 hours late but it's quite good, does a lot of things really well and manages to make the drama feel very natural and not based off retarded irrational decisions or speeding trucks on an empty street.

It gets better the farther in you go and the final route was great. Had me going "hell yeah!" for a confession scene instead of the usual "about fucking time." Give it a shot, it's a neat change of pace.

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