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Previous thread: >>11840875
Pastebin (new): http://pastebin.com/DEL18961

Vendor links:
http://en-nls.com (Japan)
http://hotpowers.jp (Japan)
http://amzn.to/1dM3vkU (Japan)
http://japanshoppingservice.jp (Japan)
http://queencatadulttoys.com (CA)
http://toydemon.com (IL)

Pic related: http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00GWFAEYE

>> No.11861266

>>11861235
that hint for this microwave guy in the last thread
i dont know where people get those ideas

well this pastebin is much better than the last one

>> No.11861312

>>11861235
Suggestions for the guide: not sure why you don't mention e-Packet for NLS since it's cheapest and not too slow.
For hotpowers, it might be worth mentioning they (only) ship with EMS. Also, (most of) their holes can be bought through amazon too.
You might want to go in-depth with JSS, as a proxy shipping service they can use sal/ems(air/sea too).
A big plus about JSS is that they ask what they should declare as, before they ship out your lewd items.
Might want to mention both hotpowers and JSS mark item as 'gift', NLS does not. Can help skip tax for some countries, but not always.

You also might want to advise people to use microfiber towel since it doesn't leave (or barely any) lint.
Finally, you might want to specify turning holes inside out is the easy way out, since a lot of people will probably get fed up with more careful ways of cleaning.

Just suggestions, I found this to be a pretty good write-up! I guess recommendations could be next, but since people are different that might not be easy at all.
Talking about manufacturers might be useful too (i.e. Tomax, Magic Eyes, ExE, Alice Stage)
Past pastebins for reference:
http://pastebin.com/evYxG02E
http://pastebin.com/P8Yhya6n

>> No.11861314 [DELETED] 

>>11861312
(no one should ever use AIR shipping since it is completely redundant between SAL and EMS)

>> No.11861333

>>11861312
(no one should ever use regular AIR shipping since it is completely redundant between economy air SAL and priority EMS)

>> No.11861340

>>11861312
>>11861266

Thanks for the feedback. This was definitely a first draft of a new pastebin, and it will be refined based on input from anons with each week's thread. I definitely plan on getting in-depth with JSS and the various product lines in the near future.

>> No.11861365

>>11861312

if recommendations are going to be added they should be sorted in price regions like this holes are soild choise in the range of 30-50$
Would help since people asking here for recommendations often have limits

would use nls price as reference value

>> No.11861398

>>11861312

there is also another pastbin
http://pastebin.com/5nLZh4kz

>> No.11861432

>>11861235
If the objective of this pastebin is to reduce the number of redundant questions asked in these threads, I would recommend adding links to places where people can read up on individual onaholes, and a short description of each one. onaho, onahodouga, and the /jp/ archive come to mind.

>> No.11861478 [DELETED] 

>>11861398
That one's mentioned in mk2 though.

>>11861432
Hotpowers reviews are pretty good solid too, onaho is worth checking out although not always consistent, onahodouga is mostly useful to check out the video.
Hotpowers also has great videos to see what the material's like. + Hotpowers, NLS and daimaoh all have cross-section pictures.
All in Japanese though, google translate only goes so far. Onaho eu has English reviews, but they aren't worth much to be honest (sorry dude maintaining this blog).
Like OP says, toydemon and queencat reviews are worth checking out to see what us gaijins have to see about certain holes. Maybe even amazon.com reviews although those are scarce.

>> No.11861485

>>11861398
That one's mentioned in mk2 though.

>>11861432
Hotpowers reviews are pretty solid too, onaho is worth checking out although not always consistent, onahodouga is mostly useful to check out the video. Onaho.net also has videos, but not very detailed.
Hotpowers also has great videos to see what the material's like. + Hotpowers, NLS and daimaoh all have cross-section pictures.
All in Japanese though, google translate only goes so far. Onaho eu has English reviews, but they aren't worth much to be honest (sorry dude maintaining this blog).
Like OP says, toydemon and queencat reviews are worth checking out to see what us gaijins have to see about certain holes. Maybe even amazon.com reviews although those are scarce.

>> No.11861744

>>11861235
The pastebin could use a line regarding secure toy storage such as,
"If you need to store your onaho securely a locking toolbox from the hardware store will solve all your problems".

>> No.11861752

>>11861744
Or anything that can be locked. Like a drawer, or a safe if you want to lock up your precious lolis.

>> No.11861773

>>11861752
Those too I just see tool boxes recommended a lot (not hear but on other sites) beacuse of there ease of there low cost and how easy they are to find.

>> No.11861778

>>11861773
>not hear but on other sites

That should be 'here'.

>> No.11861789

Review: Ipponsuji is a rubber vice dick chewer. That's the last time I get suckered by a lolihole.

>> No.11861850

>>11861789
>rubber vice dick chewer.
what does this even mean.

>> No.11861888

>>11861850
I assume it translates as "uncomfortably tight".

>> No.11861912

>>11861888
And has some kind of ridge or ring inside of it that wants to decap my mushroom.

>> No.11862043

Does anyone know if Amazon Japan sells the equivalent of what EN-NLS has up as a Toy Bag? I've tried searching but the pictures seem different. So I don't know if a size L will be sufficient for the onahole, like the one from EN-NLS was.

Is JSS a rapid service btw? I'm not sure how long they will take, does anyone have experience with it?

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11862126

Screw fake vaginas, I'd send used pantsu to the person who could get me one of these nifty lil' water bottle caps.

>> No.11862167

>>11862126
imagine all the things you could fill a bottle with

>> No.11862277

I await the day teledildonics truly take off and we can fuck people around the world with no bothersome 3D besides genitals.

>> No.11862344

>>11862277
No smell, no feeling of stickiness, no feeling of the body against yours, no hot breath, etc.

>> No.11862360

>>11862344
And your body pillow provides that?

Anyhow, it'd be more of an option for shut ins than those of us who enjoy sex.

>> No.11862363

>>11862360
I don't have a body pillow. I mean sure it'd be interesting to try but I enjoy the real thing a lot more. The only thing better about dakis and onas are that they can't get pregnant and ruin your life.

>> No.11862685

Any Swedes here with experience of ordering loli holes? Would it be best to ask NLS to dispose of the onahos' box or will I be fine? I don't want to accidentally offend someone.

It's the Sujiman Kupa Rina btw. It doesn't look that lewd IMO, but you never know.

>> No.11862956

RDC's comments on the Higyaku Aryuune holes deforming at 30 celcius makes me apprehensive about buying them.

>> No.11863146

>>11862956
I've both types ordered in normal hardness and due next week. I'll post my results since I was gonna use my USB heater anyway

>> No.11863465

>>11862043
They sell them on amazon too
http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?__mk_ja_JP=%E3%82%AB%E3%82%BF%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=%E3%81%8A%E3%82%82%E3%81%A1%E3%82%83%E8%A2%8B

And yes, JSS is a rapid service! Only thing that can slow things down is time zones, but they order, notify arrival and ship within a day.
They don't work on Sundays, though.

>>11862685
You can ask them to remove packaging for peace of heart, but customs really don't care. Might want to read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_status_of_cartoon_pornography_depicting_minors
You can ignore what they said about US though, since customs people don't give a shit.

>> No.11863501

>>11863146
God bless.

>> No.11863516

>>11863146
I've normal 'before'/loli in my drawer but never used it. Do holes get bad? I want to get my other stuff worn out before I start with that one.

>> No.11863536

~2 months on, my reviews:

Seventeen Bordeaux
Used it quite a bit, really enjoy it. Benefits from a good warming and a thick lube, it's super stimulating! I have to really take it slow with this one. sticking to shorter thrusts until I'm ready to cast my magic. The suction effect is decent too.

HEPS
Kind of the opposite end of the spectrum from Seventeen Bordeaux. Very smooth and soft, feels lovely. It's got a bit of a suction effect going on, but it's a bit hard to keep it going I've found. Makes some fun sounds too! I've found that I can go a while with this one quite easily thanks to the pressure control and the general low stimulation factor.

Meiki 005
Goddamn this is fancy, I feel like I have to take it on a dinner date first. Feels amazing, I can see what all the fuss is about! Kind of hard to describe other than "a wonderful adventure for your diiiiick"

>> No.11863605

how is the new twin tales compared to the old one?

>> No.11863635

>>11861235
Does the onahole bleed when you stick your penis inside it?

>> No.11863642

>>11863605
bigger.

>> No.11863683

>>11860625
>Does anyone have the ロリくぱぁ / Loli Kupa and can give some feedback on it?

Very, very tight, and very, very stimulating, almost uncomfortable to use. Constantly tries to push your dick out.

>> No.11863991

>>11863683
That's fine since I prefer tighter holes due to my small size. Unless, of course, it's as tight as the LO Kupa, which requires you to have a dick the size of a pinky finger.

>> No.11864177

Anyone in the UK buy these? Where from? Is it safe?

>> No.11864237

>>11864177
I'm from the UK and I brought back some onaholes from Akiba that had some "risky" illustrations on the box. But I just threw away the packaging and just put them in my suitcase just in case.This probably didn't help you unless you're going to Japan... Sorry.

Maybe ask the company you're buying them from to remove the box they come in? Hopefully they will cooperate.

>> No.11864242

My oral onahole is falling apart but still feels great and my vagoo one basically had bits coming out of it all the time... Just dumped it in the trash, prolly some tramp is making use of it now...

>> No.11864249

>>11864237
Define risky box illustrations? is a picture of a loli on a box a problem, or are they usually nude images?

>> No.11864264

>>11864249
just learn how the law is in your country cant be too hard

>>11861235
add a sentence about package removal

u could also add a topic about reparation

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>>11864249
Yeah the loli character thing was the only reason why I removed the box, I didn't want to be stopped at the airport. Then again, I did smuggle a copy of PETA (pic related). Just concealed it within a backpack inside the suitcase. If a random search happened maybe I would have been screwed?

>> No.11864666

>>11862126
>>11862167
They market it as a silly water bottle attachment, but we all know someone is going to put that in their butt.

>> No.11864670

>>11864271
Why wouldn't you just keep it in your carry on bag they don't search those.

>> No.11864818

Secret Twin Tails owners: My onahole seems to be corroding in small areas here and there after minor use. I've used pretty good amount of baby powder after each use so I'm not sure what the problem is. Is it supposed to be like this or am I doing something wrong?

>> No.11864854

>>11863991
Oh sorry, I misread. I was speaking about the LO Kupa. I'm sorry.

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>>11864271
It's really up to the discretion of the customs officer doing the inspection/search.

I've given up on trying to bring in analog material into my home country, the risks are too much for me to handle especially given prior cases that have ruined people. Shame, since there's a lot of unscanned doujinshi out there by some damn good artists that I could straight-up import. Instead they'll go out of print like everything else.

>> No.11865002

>>11864895
1. buy a scanner
2. scan abroad
3. ???
4. PROFIT

It's the perfect crime.

>> No.11865067

>>11864895
>>11865002
Move to Japan to scan doujinshi.

Become a man of honor.

>> No.11865076

>>11864895
How sad. What books?

>> No.11865342

Loli holes are objectively the least enjoyable

>> No.11865350

>>11864895
Why wouldn't you just mail them to yourself?

>> No.11865392

>>11865002
>>11865067
Unless /jp/ can put up the money to hire me full-time to scan doujinshi, I doubt that'll happen.

And trust me, I'd love to be able to live for a few weeks in a dingy hotel in Japan, drinking one-cup sake non-stop and scanning doujinshi for upload.

>>11865076
Half-dozen or so Tenshi, a handful of Lucky Star and SAO volumes. Don't have the links off-hand, these were published back in 2010. I think at least one of the artists has since quit pixiv.

>>11865350
I've ordered from Japan before. Twice my packages were opened by customs.

>> No.11865418

>>11865342
I like fragile loli onaholes because then I have to be very gentle with it and I can only insert 1/2 of my penis, just like a real loli. Cumming inside is more satisfying this way for some reason. I guess it's because I need to work a bit harder for the orgasm.

>> No.11865656

>>11865392
Out of curiosity where do you live?

>> No.11865666

this thread is gross

>> No.11865685

>>11865666
your gross

>> No.11865686

>>11865685
sick wicked burn but its spelled ``yore''

>> No.11865704

>>11865686
no it's yur

>> No.11865817

>>11865666
you're just jealous that I found that chinko bottle cap before you did.

>> No.11866971

Does anyone know if I can get this in the US without any problems?

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Adult-Toy_000000000471777/item_%E3%81%A6%E3%81%AB%E3%81%8A%E3%81%AF%E3%81%A3%EF%BC%81%E3%83%BB%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%AE%E5%AD%90%E3%81%A0%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A6%E3%83%9B%E3%83%B3%E3%83%88%E3%81%AF%E3%81%88%E3%81%A3%E3%81%A1%E3%81%A0%E3%82%88%EF%BC%9F%E3%83%BB-%E3%82%AF%E3%83%A9%E3%82%B9%E3%81%A7%E4%B8%80_5363535

>> No.11866968

>>11865666
First time here? What are you expecting? Onaholes are just pieces of plastics for us to jack off.

>> No.11866982

>>11866971
sure.

>> No.11866981

>>11866971
yeah dude, that'd be perfectly fine, quite literally the ONLY thing you need to worry about with US customs is loli-esque things, that doesn't look loli at all, so it'd be completely fine.

>> No.11867005

>>11866981
ive gotten like 3 separate packages with the loli box and that shit never got opened

not saying it will but who the fuck cares

>> No.11867355

Just ordered a Venus Clone Soft! This is my first Japanese onahole, however I have had a Fleshlight in the past. I will tell you all about it after I've given it a few goes.

>> No.11867724

>>11867355
We usually prefer something with lolis in box. Venus is more like a competiton with Tenga or Fleshlght. Hope you have fun with it.

>> No.11867728

>>11867724
Shut up, Tomax's toys are very good.

>> No.11868004

>>11867724
Seriously are you new? Tomax holes are very well regarded around here. Way better than any fleshlight.

>> No.11868035

>>11868004
No loli though

>> No.11868060

what about those gilf onaholes you can get, I heard they intricately insert real grey pubes from the old ladies.

>> No.11868081

>>11868035
Box art is only one things we care abut here and the tomax line may be lacking in lolis on the box but there relatively low price and outstanding quality make them highly recommended on /jp/,
but if lolis on the box are really that important to you magic eyes has some good onaho you may enjoy.

>>11867355
Last I checked loli was legal in the US and all customs seems to care abut is drugs, bombs and anthrax.

>> No.11868133

Did someone use an onahole warmer as an anal dildo before?

>> No.11868141

>>11868133
The thought has crossed my mind but that little thing would get uncomfortably/painfully hot.

>> No.11868195

>>11868141
Wonder if it would be fun to have one that doesnt get too hot, but still plenty hot

>> No.11868215

>>11868195
A self heating dildo/plug with a digital thermostat would find a market.

>> No.11868224

Thanks to the guy that linked the Nexus Revo 2 at Pinkcherry in the last thread. Got it for $90 with the 25% off coupon. Seems like a pretty damn good deal. Pretty excited about it.

>> No.11868236

>>11868224
Really low price, that. I paid the full $120 a few weeks back and I thought that was a fantastic price. It's a big step up from any of the Aneros massagers. I don't always finish completely hands free but it's as good as solo prostate massage gets imo.

>> No.11868244

http://en-nls.com/pict1-34030?c2=12001012
I hope this was worth it.

>> No.11868268

>>11868224
>>11868236

£120 to put in my ass, sounds fucked up

>> No.11868291

>>11868268
Thats dollars its only £73,
unless your local retailers just swap the dollars sign for a pounds sign.

But yeah some sex toys are stupidly expensive,
gold plated vibrators anyone?

>> No.11868310

>>11868268
>>11868291
I know a chick who spent over $150 for her vibrator, no joke. And apparently WE are the ones with the problems, right?

>> No.11868316

>>11868310
Melonpan once spent 250 euros on a vibrator for kartoffel iirc

>> No.11868313

>>11868310
>lol bro she only bought a vibrator cos u aren't fuckin her
>hahaa virgin hey bro lets go hit up the bar and bang some sluts

Don't try to rationalize normals.

>> No.11868321

>>11868313
It feels great being enlightened, doesn't it?

>> No.11868464

I've mailed JSS last Thursday but I've yet to hear back from them. I've read they don't work over the weekend but even then, its taking quite long to get a reply. How long does it usually take them to reply?

>> No.11868560

So I've been looking to get the succubus wavy in normal from queencat but they've been out of stock for like the past week. Anybody have a rough idea of how often they restock? Or am I out of luck?

>> No.11868571

>>11868291
Well considering that most prostate massagers are in the $50 range the added functionality of this one seems to be well worth it for that price.

>> No.11868594

>>11868560
I think they're waiting on the new versions with boxes possibly to restock. Might be another clearance sale before they decide to order more. You can always email them and find out.

>> No.11869012

How normal is it to dislike the tightness of loli holes? Because I have a Rina I've used 10-20 times, and I'm pretty sure I dislike it. And I don't have an especially large penis, I only get partially erect and I'm only 5-6 inches when I'm there (probably 6 under vacuum). I know Rina is a somewhat hard hole, I assume soft holes are more stretchable.

>> No.11869014

>>11868571
Pardon my ignorance, but why are prostate massagers so expensive? Isn't it just a weirdly-shaped piece of plastic?

>> No.11869015

>>11869012
What? Rina is a soft hole and not that tight.

If you really want something tight and hard, try a LO. Even a micropenis would have a hard time inserting into that.

>> No.11869045

>>11869015
Not that anon, but rina is pretty strange. It's soft on the outside, but the textures on the inside don't feel great. They don't conform and wrap around your dick, so it feels like you're rubbing a rough piece of rubber over your dick. I guess that was what he meant by hard.

It's a nice toy, but I don't know why the insides feel that way for some people.

>> No.11869191

>>11869014
Aneros massagers run around $35 on Amazon.

>> No.11869226

AmiAmi sells a lot of onaholes, I never realized it before.
Maybe add that to the vendors list.

>> No.11869241

>>11862126
Anybody know where I can buy one of these?

this is my fetish

>> No.11869248

>>11869014
Couldn't fully answer you. I'd guess you'd have to ask why a bunch of rubber pussies cost so much as well. Mostly design I guess but probably because it's more niche.

>> No.11869348

How are the Tenga Flip holes as discrete starter holes?

>> No.11869354

>>11869348
HEPS is tons better and more if not just as discrete.

>> No.11869389

I have a fairly small dick (just under 5 inches erect)

Will most standard onaholes like Tenga Flip, etc. be too big?
Should I get a loli one instead?

>> No.11869473

>>11869389
Tenga Flip would probably be too big
Dunno about loliholes

>> No.11869515

>>11869389
You'll fit in anything targeted towards Japs. Fleshlights and Flips will definitely be too large.

>> No.11869703

>>11868464
I usually got fast responses concerning my orders. What's the inquiry?

>>11868560
They told me lots of stuff including the new Tubo masturbators will launch in 3 weeks or so.

>>11869012
Some people don't like it. I wasn't a fan either.

>> No.11869827

>>11869012
Lotions may pay a factor. For example, I ordered finish and sleep lotions, which feels cleaner, but it doesn't feel too comfortable. The lotion come with magic eyes is actually better.

If not, maybe you want something softer? Or some holes with more stimulations?

>> No.11870017

>>11869703

They were some questions regarding the service itself, which I did not fully understand. Some pages 404-ing on me did not really help much either, so I was not able to find out.

I guess they did might not have answered due to lack of research on my own part, which is not really the case IMO but eh.

I just asked them if I understood correctly, do I send them a list of items I want to buy, or do I place an order delivered at their location. As well as if I want several items, am I looking at bulk shipping, or is that something different?

>> No.11870032

>>11870017
JSS has two services, one in which they handle everything for you, all you have to do is tell them what you want and give them money, it's called their Shopping Service. For this they'll charge a lot more for handling service and the such. This is like a concierge?

The second is where you tell them that you're going to purchase a bunch of items and give them the list. They'll reply with an email which contains a shipping address with a unique number identifier attached to it. You then go purchase the items and tell them to ship to the address JSS sent you. JSS will receive the items on your behalf and then forward them to you. This is called their Bulk Shipping Service. It is like your typical forwarding service.

Bulk shipping is a lot cheaper compared to their online shopping service, where they'll just charge you a small fee. With both services, you have to tell them what you want so they know what items they're expecting to receive on your behalf. Once your stuff have arrived at their warehouse you'll have to pack it, it is here where you tell them what shipping method you wish to use and most importantly, What you want them to put on the label, instead of rubber sex toys.

>> No.11870034

>>11870032
Which service you should use, depends on the shop you're shopping at. If you're not in the US, and you want to get the venus line, or want to get the Alice Dayo hip, you'll have to get them through the online shopping service since the shop doesn't accept foreign cards or some such.

If you're planning on buying stuff that accept foreign cards but don't ship outside of japan, like Amazon Japan, that's when you use their bulk shipping.

>> No.11870054 [DELETED] 

>>11870017
You are using their functional online store right?
http://japanshoppingservice.jp/onlinestore/
everything happens through the forms over there

>>11870034
Daimaoh can ship directly to you though, if you e-mail them. A few threads back someone did that, so no need to pay proxy fees. For alice stage I think shopping service is required.
For multiple items just make sure to check 'combine shipping', and do as much as you can through bulk shipping which is really affordable.

>> No.11870057

>>11870017
You are using their functional online store right?
http://japanshoppingservice.jp/onlinestore/
everything happens through the forms over there.

>>11870034
Daimaoh(Tomax) can ship directly to you though, if you e-mail them. A few threads back someone did that, so no need to pay proxy fees. For alice stage I think shopping service is required.
For multiple items just make sure to check 'combine shipping', and do as much as you can through bulk shipping which is really affordable.

>> No.11870076

>>11870057
>>11870034

Thanks. That helped a lot. Yeah I did see their online store. It sounds like bulk shipping is the way to go for me then.

I'll have a look at this but it definitely makes more sense now.

>> No.11870086

One more thing regarding JSS. I would assume Cash on Delivery as an option, means I can PayPal them money to pay for the order in case I don't have a Credit Card that works?

Also, when am I actually given their adress, I'm currently trying to put the bulk order together, and I hope I'll understand Amazon Japan' checkout page.

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>>11870086
I see a paypal logo on their site.

You've given their address once you've submitted an bulk shipping order through their page, check your email address.

Some people have had trouble trying to get the unique identifier into amazon, here is what I used.

>> No.11870105

>>11870086
Cash on Delivery (COD) should work if your credit card doesn't work. Amazon jp works just like amazon.com though, so there should be no problems.
Make sure to click "display in English" on amazon when it comes, it's in a corner somewhere, afterwards many terms are in English.
The address involves some playing around until it looks right but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

>> No.11870656

>>11861789

Which one did you get? I have both and the Mizuho is much harder than the Arisa, but neither were uncomfortable to me.

>> No.11871286

What should i be using to fast dry my onahole? i hear using microfibre or lint free cloths are good because they don't leave any small traces in the rubber, but i dunno.

Also, internally.

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Can anyone review Puru Puru Oshiri Finale for me? Pic related. I would pound the ever-loving shit out of Mami, but I need to know if the price is justified.

>> No.11871554

>>11871540
Buy the REAL instead, near the same price and a better hole all around.

>> No.11871562

>>11871554
REAL? Sorry, I'm new to this shit, link?

>> No.11871570

>>11871562
http://en-nls.com/pict1-38060
I don't trust anything Tamatoys makes, since they mainly do the 'parody' holes.

>> No.11871592

>>11871570
Tamatoys is bad? Fuck, they would have had me at 'Mami' and 'anal.' Thanks for the tip, REAL is actually slightly cheaper.

Any option for discrete shipping with these things?

>> No.11871602

>>11871592
You can ask to get boxes removed, but mine came in a normal cardboard box and the insides were stuffed with paper. Usual discrete shit. NLS might black-vacuum bag it instead of paper, and it was labeled as figurines for me.

>> No.11871637
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11871637

Why not just make a deeper ass hole?

>> No.11871654

>>11871637
Too worried I'll break it somehow.

>> No.11871676

>>11871637
Jews.

>> No.11871738

>>11871637
What onahole is this?

>> No.11871762

>>11871738
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=LTD-ETC-00103

I don't think NLS has it which is why its selling so well on amiami.

>> No.11872163

>>11871637
Probably because a second hole plus soft material would make for an easily damaged toy. Too little space for a thick wall. The mini hole can hold a bullet vibe from the looks of it, so there's that.

>> No.11872166

>>11871637
its just to play with

>> No.11872247

>>11871762
730g only, it looks small

>> No.11872309

>>11871540
Tamatoys and parody toys are almost universally shit, just so you know.

>> No.11872331

Just tried the USB warmer, and I have to say, a warm hole is awesome. Too bad there isn't a way to keep the hole warm the entire time.

>> No.11872340

>>11872331
Onahole with embedded heating elements that plugs into an electrical socket.

Will I make millions?

>> No.11872344

>>11872331
find a friend's hole

>> No.11872345

>>11872340
Wouldn't cleaning and/or powering it be dangerous due to water and electricity being a bad combination?

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>>11871540
Unfortunately that thing is shit, and jlist sells it for 3 times the amazon price.

>>11871637
www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00GZJGGBC

>> No.11872352

>>11872345
Do you want a warm hole or not?

>> No.11872354

>>11872340
Why you've just invented the toaster!

>> No.11872358

>>11872354
s-shit, let me file a patent real quick

>> No.11872359

Why not just get one of those microwavable neck/body mini pillows that are full of oats/beads and retain warmth?
Wrap that around or near whatever ya need.

>> No.11872370

>>11871762
So you can buy from amiami and have it shipped with SAL without any proxy costs? This should be added to the pastebin, I don't think it's ever been mentioned before.
Proxy bulk cost is only 400-600yen though, and some things are cheaper on amazon, and proxy undervalues/sends as gift.
Amiami's catalogue is pretty limited too, but it might be interesting for some. It also seems everything is on 1-2week back-order. Proxy might be the best after all.

>> No.11872388 [DELETED] 

>>11871762
This is an old 2011 hole from ExE, from before the Puni virgin
www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B006MP03UE/
Reviews say: soft and short, quick to tear, "half-assed" product. It looks cute, though.

>> No.11872393

>>11871762
This is an old 2011 hole from ExE, from before the Puni Hole
www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B006MP03UE/
Reviews say: soft and short, quick to tear, "half-assed" product. It looks cute, though.

>> No.11872396

>>11872345
Removable heating elements,
which also allows you to sell the holes separate.

>> No.11872400

>>11871637
maybe it's not for sticking your dick in and more like for your thumb so you can fuck the pussy and finger her asshole, you know like your hentais?

>> No.11872425

>>11872331
Doesn't it stay warm with use? I know mine does, but then again I don't use an onahole warmer. Do you have a zombie penis or something?

>> No.11872456

>>11872425
No it stays body temperature, which is... lukewarm I guess. That's what I thought too, but using a warmer was an eye-opener. When you enter a warm/hot hole it's really amazing.

>> No.11872501

>>11871286
Anyone?

>> No.11872510

>>11872501
Someone a few threads back recommended alcohol, but I've never used that to clean the inside so I don't know what it does to the hole long-term.

>> No.11872538
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11872538

Does jp know of any good cock rings? I was thinking of getting a Jejoue Mio. Sorry if this is too unrelated. Just ignore this post.

>> No.11872617

>>11872331
>wormholes

>> No.11872654

>>11869012
It's preference, like everything. I didn't like it so much at first, but I've grown to like them. It also adds variety.

>> No.11872865

>>11872538
>cock ring

why

>> No.11872878

http://en-nls.com/pict1-38909
wat

>> No.11872881

>>11872878
It's delicious pleasure, sweet love.

>> No.11872927

I can't be the only one who hugs my onahip while going to sleep..r-right?

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>>11872370
I don't know if it will take that long, I'll let everyone know how it goes when I order something.
Considering this: http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=LTD-ETC-00149&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_maker%3DPPP%24pagemax%3D20%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1

Since I still have no hip hole, but if other hip holes out there are still nowhere near as good as puni hole I'll just shell out the money and get it.

>> No.11873155

>>11872927
I sleep holding my Meiki Plush doll, but I wouldn't cuddle a rubber toy in bed.

>> No.11873160

>>11872456
Once you've used a warm onahole you never wanna go back. I have to plan playtime in advance now so the heater can run for a full half hour and my Meiki can be nice and toasty.

>> No.11873190

>>11862126
A Darth Vader bottle cap, neat!

>> No.11873210

>>11873104
6000+yen for that is pretty pricy! Puni isn't that more expensive, even, but weight ups the cost more. Just save up for Puni.

>> No.11873234

>>11873104
I have this and it's really small.
You'll easily pierce through it, it's not particularly stimulating either.
Maybe as a gimmick if it were 4k~ yen, but it's not worth it at the current price.

>> No.11873273

>>11872865
They help you stay hard by trapping blood in your member.

>>11872538

I figure a cockring is could count as an onaho accessory.

You can get them at your local sex toy store for about 5 dollars,
but the one you listed will likely be made of silicone, have quality electronics
and a rechargeable battery so if your willing to throw down the money it looks like an OK choice.

>> No.11873323

>>11873273
sounds like a nice way to have your cock shrivel up and drop off

>> No.11873369

>>11873273
I would only worry about staying hard if I were banging a 3dpd or something. A rubber hole isn't gonna complain about you going halfway limp.

>> No.11873758

>>11873323
Thats why you do not wear them for long periods of time.

>>11873369
The hole might not complain but the guy using it might,
"why cant my semi-limp dick fit in this tight hole?"

>> No.11873777

>>11873758
No seriously, he made a good point. I wouldn't bother with no cock ring.

>> No.11874068

>>11873758
I thought cock rings were used to prolong orgasms and increase sensitivity?

>> No.11874104

The only thing a cockring does for me is make my dick look really, really angry. Very veiny, red, with a flared shiny head, and thick shaft. I don't like it.

>> No.11874116

>>11873104
I do not recommend this. Size matters. And this is way too small.

>> No.11874119

>>11872510
That is not something you want to use on silicone.

You all need to invest in a good sex toy cleaning solution, or just use mild soap.

>> No.11874161

Tomorrow my soldering iron should come in. In a desperate attempt to fix the Maria Ozawa, I hope to transfer some part of the material to the weaker side.

It is so off-center, its pretty horrendous. Stuff already comes leaking out from the side. Oh well, on a positive note, I can't probably make it any worse than it already is.

>> No.11874168

one time i used a cockring and my dick became an annihilated husk of its former self

>> No.11874191

>>11874168
hot

>> No.11874601

>>11863146
>>11863501
just finished a pretty long and enjoyable session with the before/normal
had the USB warmer in for ages too but I can't say I'm seeing any deformation of the hole

anyway I guess it passes the basic checks for making penises happy and not turning into a melted heap of rubber, anything more specific you want to know just ask

>> No.11874608

>>11874601
I'm more interested in how it's doing a month from now, through regular heating and usage.

>> No.11874622

>>11874608
well it won't be that regularly I use it but if it falls to pieces in the next few months or so I'll be sure to vent in the nearest onahole thread

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11874641

whats a good onahole for someone with phimosis who is too lazy to stretch it out?

>> No.11874678

Left my warmer in for over two hours. Got completely engrossed in the eroge I was playing and forgot all about it. The inside of the hole is now all smooth and shit.

That's my horror story for today.

>> No.11874690

>>11874678
Got a photo? Kind of curious.

>> No.11874708

>>11874690
Sorry, the only camera I have is the webcam on my laptop. Just tried taking a picture and you literally cannot see jack shit due to the low resolution.

>> No.11874717

>>11874678
That's awesome.

>> No.11874821

>>11874678
was it one of the original ones without temperature limit?

>> No.11874867

>>11874678
What hole?

>> No.11874882

>>11874678
Did that too and learned my lesson. Always use a timer with warmers.

>> No.11874891
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11874891

http://en-nls.com/pict1-38908?c2=9999

Wow, this is 7 kg. Weighs way more than the Gokujyo Namagoshi and it's cheaper. I wonder if it's any good.

Shipping just kills it though. I wonder if Toy Demon will pick it up. They don't overprice their hips too badly.

>> No.11875093

>>11874867
butthole

>> No.11875095

>>11874821
>>11874867
both very relevant questions.
30 minutes regularly in tomax and npg meiki holes here. no loss of texture or shape observed over the course of ~2 months.

>> No.11875121

>>11874821
By original, do you mean the white one? Regardless, neither the pink nor white one have a thermostat. And it was the pink one.

>>11874867
A cheap EXE/Outvision hole which shan't be named because I'm paranoid.

>> No.11875135

>>11874821
I think it's been decided that the 'new' usb warmer doesn't have any temperature limit either, please add this to the paste bin.

>> No.11875177

>>11875135
that's odd, I could've sworn it was one of its selling points

>> No.11875189

>>11875177
More like a warning not to leave the thing on for extended periods of time. I'll concede that the Engrish is hard to decipher.

>> No.11875430

>>11874119
I was asking about how top dry my onahole fast, but how to clean it though

>> No.11875432

>>11875177
>one of its selling points
Sure, if you can't read Japanese and think machine translations are accurate.

>> No.11875435

>>11875430
not how to clean it*

I've been awake way too long

>> No.11875471

old but relevant.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-06-29/secrets-of-obscenity-the-classification-riddle/2776656

>> No.11875620

>>11875471
Thanks for the link, quite relevant for me.
I bought a Secret Twin Tales last year, pretty sure that would classify as "obscene" under Australian law.
About to order a Sujiman Rina, perhaps I'll ask for it without the box this time.

>> No.11875649

>>11875620
Better safe than sorry.

>> No.11875697

What's the best Onahole?
I'm looking at getting a second one when my first one breaks

>> No.11875705

>>11874641
Maybe something soft and loose. I think it´s much safer to stretch it out.

This is an extremely soft hole which might work for you.
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-1073.html

>> No.11875852

>>11875697
>what is best onahole /jp/
please stop doing this

>> No.11876033

>>11874891
The NLS writeup seems to note that the material used has a strong oily smell and feel. I don't recognize the brand either. It may be big and have a low price for its size, but I won't risk my ¥ on a hip like this.

>> No.11876349

>>11875852
You know it won't.

>> No.11876399

So on JSS, I now have to input "Amount of compensation". What do you guys put here? I assume in this box I am setting myself up for customs tax? Not sure what to put there.

Any creative discreet way to describe a box filled with nasty shit, lol?

>> No.11876416

>>11876399
masturbation aid :)

>> No.11876486

>>11876399
For amount, it's generally best to go with around half of total real value. For description, you'll have to think of something yourself.

>> No.11876723

>>11876399
unless you're shipping with DHL you don't have to be honest
nls use figures as their default declaration and hotpowers say cushion, if you're stuck for ideas

>> No.11877145

>>11876399

rubber toys

>> No.11877683

Which onahole have you experienced the most realistic texture with?

>> No.11877688

>>11877683
no one here would know, why would you want realistic anyway?

>> No.11877689

>>11877688
I was just curious. I've seen some pretty batshit insane textures, such as that one alien one.

>> No.11877708

>>11877689
was the texture anything special? all I remember is the colour

>> No.11877716

>>11877708
I remember it looking nasty. It looked rectangular with a deathly color

>> No.11877734

>>11877716
not as odd looking as these though
http://en-nls.com/pict1-31857

>> No.11877737

>>11877734
I bet it feels like fucking lubed up bubble wrap.

>> No.11877748

Is the A10 the best electric onahole?

>> No.11877818

>>11877748
I remember this thing being 'decent' for the low price
en-nls.com/pict1-37849

>> No.11877871

Any recommendations for a first time buyer?
Loli onaholes are probably out of the question, due to size.

>> No.11877884

>>11877871
Country?

>> No.11877888

>>11877884
Murrica

>> No.11877895

>>11877871
how large are we talking?

>> No.11877897

>>11877871
>Loli onaholes are probably out of the question, due to size.

You're kidding, right? My penis is 8 inches erect and 6 inches in circumference and I have a collection of loli onaholes.

>> No.11877910

>>11877888
http://www.queencatadulttoys.com/brands/TOMAX.html
Anything from here is top tier for durability and feels.

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>>11877910
why does this exist

>> No.11877933

>>11877922
Transgenders.

>> No.11877943

>>11877922
for girls to screw with people by having a bulge in their unders

>> No.11877975

>>11877910
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_hpc?ie=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=TOMAX&node=3760901
They're also on Amazon if that's more convenient.

>> No.11877977

DAMMIT! I'm on edge here...
I should have paid the extra couple of dollars to get my hole delivered by now.
I bought via JSS's sal packet option (6-13 days).
It's been 10 days. Is it too much to have hoped for sooner than later gaddamit!
What if.. it got confiscated by customs!
.. gah, I'm a wreck.

>> No.11878001

>>11877933
funny joke

>> No.11878006

>>11877977
Most of us use SAL though. Just bear with it.

>> No.11878019

>>11877977
SAL can be pretty slow some times dude, no reason to panic
if it still hasn't arrived by the 20 day mark you can maybe start to worry but for now it's just SAL being slow

also was it standard SAL or registered SAL? the latter giving a tracking number

>> No.11878066

>>11874891
>16 lbs of pussy and ass
Seriously not enough. Go 20 or go home.

>> No.11878210

First time buyer in the UK, any suggestions?

>> No.11878281

>>11878210
1. decide if you want a loli hole or not
they're tighter but have a narrower canal
(although you won't really know your preferences until you've tried a few different types of onahole)
2. nls is probably the easiest to order from for europeans without any grasp of japanese so you will most likely use them
if you decide on a loli hole you can ask them to remove the box should the art be a bit too provocative
3. buy lube, no two ways about it (peace's is my personal preference although I think maybe thinner lubes are more suited for loli holes)
4. prepare your anus for parcelforce fees (you have my sympathies on this UK anon)

that's as much as I can suggest without knowing your budget or other details

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11878359

so this is awkward

I'm returning home to the US from Tokyo on Monday. I dont foresee myself getting laid anytime soon at all after getting back home. Right now, I'm feeling very bored/unsatisfied/uninterested with regular masturbation, probably due to issues with my relationship. Either way, I'm toying with the idea of getting one of these things to assuage my sadness.

Should I do it?
Which should I get?
I can order off of amazon.co.jp, and probably get it delivered by Sunday.

I have no idea about these kind of things.
Possibly important to mention I'm moving back to my family's home, so I'd have to be paranoid about hiding/cleaning the thing. Is it worth it?

>> No.11878370

>>11878359
You're a viking, just do it.

>> No.11878371

>>11878359
I bought 2 safes, and put one inside the other to house my onaholes
It's the only way I feel safe

>> No.11878374

>>11878359
Everyone's opinion will be different, but for me it is way better than using your hand, and I actually prefer it to real sex (not that I've had any for a few years).
A small one (not a a hip) is pretty easy to hide.

>> No.11878383

>>11878359
people always seem to ask if onaholes are worth it or something to that effect
let me just say that in my experience it makes regular masturbation feel like a wasted opportunity

>> No.11878386

>>11878359

Just get a bag with it. It will not draw any attention.

Cleaning takes a few minutes. Rinse it out with soap, cold water, pull a paper towel through it, and put it in the bag again.

And its much better than using your hand I definitely agree with that one.

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>>11878374
>>11878383
>>11878386
Maybe I'll take the plunge, then. Which model would you recommend for a beginner? The only thing I know is that Tenga is supposedly good? I dont really want one that looks like a real pussy/is flesh colored.

>>11878371
Honestly if I had the cash I'd do similar things.

>>11878370
sadly I a but a culturally confused Colombian

>> No.11878423

>>11878383
This is exactly what I feel, im an impatient person, so whenever I masturbate when im short on time or theres someone nearby, it feels like such a huge waste

>> No.11878433

>>11878406
tenga's are the japanese equivalents of fleshlights. As for what to get it is really up to personal preference. >>11878281
Just take the plunge and buy one that interests you. Then read through the threads and archives and see what people say about certain onaholes and see if they match up to your preference.

If you're worried about people finding your onahole, you're boned no matter what style you choose. Just think of what uses there are for a rubber tube with a hole in the center, not many. Just get a air permeable non transparent bag and try your best to keep it in a discreet place.

Fuck everyone has fuck toys, I found my dad's onahole when I was clearing through his stuff after he died. I'm sure your mom has like a 20 inch bad dragon dildo and a diesel powered vibrator hidden somewhere in the house as well.

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>>11878433
>>tenga's are the japanese equivalents of fleshlights
alright, but how are those different from other "onnaholes"? I dont know anything about this at all, honestly.

Its not that I think that my parents will be perturbed or angry about it; I'm old enough that it doesnt really matter. I'd just like to avoid awkward conversations if possible, thats all.

>> No.11878475
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>>11878444
they're probably more like the onahole equivalent of macs
functional enough, heavily marketed and way overpriced for what they are

also I just had a thought that you may as well pick up a npg meiki off amazon if you're in Japan already
since the prices on amazon are pretty amazing for them and the only obstacle for the rest of us is needing a proxy buyer

>>11878433
on the topic of discreet onaholes I think the smoking phantom tin would be pretty cool to have

>> No.11878489
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11878489

Well, she found it guys. My mother knew about my onahole all along (pic related). She attempted to come in my room without knocking to make my bed and then I shouted "Wait a sec!" and when I finished and asked her what she wanted she said "It was nothing, you can put away your blow-up doll now! Hahaha" fucking hell man!

>> No.11878492

>>11878489
I think maybe she wants to be your onahole

>> No.11878496

>>11878489
Your mother makes your bed for you?

>> No.11878501

>>11878496
Yeah and I'm 21 lol

>> No.11878503

>>11878489
>She attempted to come in my room without knocking to make my bed

Jesus Christ, look at this

>> No.11878513

>>11878489
wait is that from tamatoys? some people say their holes are shit how is that one?

>> No.11878523

>>11878513
It will probably last you a good 6 months before it starts to fall apart inside, however I'm still using it and it feels fine.

>> No.11878605

is it harmful to lick the cum and lube out of my onahole ?

>> No.11878610

>>11878513
tamatoys are hit and miss, far from all they make is shit. that one is supposedly really good.

>>11878605
ingesting some lube is generally not harmful, but eating it all the time definitely isn't good, anon.

>> No.11878612

So I had a big shipment of onaholes coming in scheduled for today, and was really excited.
They just did not deliver at all. Means I gotta wait till Monday. Really bummed out ...

>> No.11878618

>>11878605
Dude I've tried this before, and it tastes fucking horrible. You'll regret it man.

Especially when it's all cold and shit, that's fucking gross...

>> No.11878632

>>11878612
i know the feelio
mine are stuck in the customs for the weekend

>> No.11878747

Planning on buying a onahole for the first time after some lurking.

Last time I checked onahole threads ALICEだよっ AGM were highly recommended so were also http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-1046a.html and http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/a6-075.html were recommended for lube of choice.

My budget is 75 $
I want something soft
not a loli hole, rather have something like a meiki/zero spiral.
live in Europe

also is there something like this : http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-1054.html but in plastic and for use with your hand, since aren't onaholes quite sloppy when faping with them since there's no casing around it?

>> No.11878784

>>11878747
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/set-hole47.html also thoughts on this? pick two for 7500yen

>> No.11878789

If you had a choice to get an onahole in the 150$ price range or a bag of dank weed what would you go for?

>> No.11878846

>>11878789
Assuming you're talking about US dollars, where are you going to find a $150 onahole?

>> No.11878852

>>11878789
$75 hole and $75 of weed.

>> No.11878858

>>11878846
I was thinking like a puni hole DX from queencat or something.

>>11878852
Not an option but that would be so nice

I think I'm just gonna go with the dank weed.

>> No.11878861

>>11878605
I'd recommend only doing that with a TOMAX hole because they're made with medical grade silicone rubber. Also look for an edible or flavored lube.

Still a bit gross but I won't judge you.

>> No.11878874

>>11878747
Regarding that air pillow, they released a new version that looks more like a hip
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-1072.html

As for something plastic, I've been waiting for the price to drop on this thing
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00EXG1CBS
e-nls sells something similar for cheaper
http://en-nls.com/pict1-23221?c2=9999
What's the difference? I guess it's just dimensions and the included panties and onahole.

You could get the hayu and a spiral zero with the set offer from hotpowers if you want, I don't know how the new spiral zero fares, the old one was supposed very good according to RDC.

>> No.11878892

>>11878874
Oh nevermind me, I didn't read that you wanted to use with your hand. I don't think there's one, but I never needed to add a case around my onaholes when using them.

>> No.11878916

>>11878874
thanks for the response. I'll get the the new version of the air pillow.

Could you help me with links for hayu and spiral zero also how do I know which version of the spiral zero it is? as I want soft only

>> No.11878914

Guys this just popped up on my amazon recommendations.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/SANWA-SUPPLY-USB-TOY54GY-USBペットボトルウォーマー-グレー/dp/B002ZNKDBG/

Is this it? the holy grail of keeping onaholes warm?

>> No.11878924

>>11878874
That Tamatoys one looks so good.

>> No.11878931

>>11878916
You can search the text of the hole you linked http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-1046a.html in the set offer page.
I think the soft spiral zero is the blue one.
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-1073.html

>> No.11878956

>>11878359
1. You cant be seen/heard while using the toys
2. You cant let ppl see your toys, or smell your lotions, or smell your semens
3. You need to keep your toys clean and dry after each use
4. You mostly want a bath after each session
5. You must clean the sink, not leaving anything there
6. Never left a hole at bathroom
7. You are probably unloaded and cant erect a few hours after each use

so basically, you need a quality hole and secure closet. only use it on calculated moment like planning a crimen.

good luck.

>> No.11878966

>>11878931
thanks I'll see if I can google translate which one is hard and which one is soft. How's the hyau? never heard of it but I've read great things about zero spiral.

>> No.11879021

>>11878966
RDC had all of them. The Hyau Spiral is enormous, for one. Really big. IIRC the old Zero Spiral was better regarded.
The newer Zero Spiral (transparent, super soft material) feels even better but seems to suffer from durability problems. Difference between Hard/Soft is the firmness inside, I think.
They don't produce the old Zero Spiral anymore, in any case.

>> No.11879023

>>11879021
should I just go with something else instead of getting those two then? if the new zero spiral isn't as good as the old

>> No.11879024
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11879024

Can anyone recommend a good hip hole? I already have the Alice Dayo and I like it, though it doesn't have anal access which would a huge turnon for me.

The thread seems to have a few alternatives and the REAL keeps popping up.
Price is not an issue (if it's not ridiculously overpriced) so I'd just be looking for the "best there is" in pussy + anal hip holes.

Any recommendations?

>> No.11879028

>>11879023
It's superb, the insides just tear away, just like a Meiki does. Doesn't stop people from buying Meikis.
Alternatively, get Alice Stage stuff.

>> No.11879038

>>11879024
The REAL is same price range as the Puni. Both are supposed to be good.
Maybe this would be the 'next level': http://en-nls.com/pict1-5072
Thing is, it's NPG, soft and thus probably not super-durable, which makes it quite the pricy thing.

>> No.11879043

>>11879028
ah, I'll go with the two then. Thank you for your help.

>> No.11879055
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11879055

I haven't heard people bring it up before, but I got the tsurupetta soft and it's SO SMALL. Probably smallest onahole I ever got!
I had an idol cadet before, and that one is noticeably bigger.
The other one I got is also much smaller than expected. I expected it to be huge! It's a little fat, but not that much bigger than the tsurupetta.
In pic I compared with lip balm thingie. Anyway, I now understand these low ratings on amazon ...
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B008CVQJEU/
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00G43WLRM/

>> No.11879060

>>11879028
You mean the REAL? Yeah it does look good, the only downside seems to be that the other side is flat, as opposed to a belly-shape.

>>11879038
Yeah, the puni does ALSO look good, and I would probably lean towards it just because it's natural shape as opposed REAL, though hard to say which feels better. Personal preference, yeah, but I'd still like to get the one that has the better feel/durability ratio.

The namagoshi seems fine but if durability might be an issue, it's quite expensive. More into the loli holes anyway, though not ruling out anything.

Anyone tried these to say how they compare/last/feel?
Also these any good? (posted earlier in the thread):
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00GZJGGBC
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail

>> No.11879067

>>11879060
That PPP one is ridiculously expensive, and untested. Better get the Namagoshi if you want expensive.
The Puni Fuwa Mochi isn't worth its money. It's really small, prone to tearing.

Hotpowers makes great hips too you know. Unfortunately their cross vampire one is no longer in production. There's this though:
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-972.html

In my opinion really, if you have the Alice and want to try something new, save up for the Gokujyo Namagoshi. Both the Puni Virgin and REAL will be firmer, and probably not that special in comparison.
NPG/Hotpowers seem the way to go, but expensive.

>> No.11879073
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11879073

>>11879055
It's the smallest in the series.

>> No.11879263

>>11879067
Hmm, gotta think about it, but thanks.

http://en-nls.com/pict1-38487
Now this looks promising, anyone got experience from it?
Not that expensive and the "open my pussy!"-series was supposedly good. Might be a good alternative to the PuniDX/REAL.

>> No.11879280

>>11879263
That one's definitely worth considering too. It's not really similar to the "open my pussy"/sujiman ones.
It's a full fledged hip, with all its caveats. Hard to clean, maintenance etc.
So far everyone that got one loved it. Seems great if it's what you're looking for.

>> No.11879297

What's you guys opinion on the proof of meiki 005?

I've heard good things, but also things like the insides tearing easily.

>> No.11879329

>>11879297
At amazon price it's good. It's true what people say, the insides "shed", after a while there's lots of red dual layer gone.
At full price @ other stores, it's pretty damn expensive.

>> No.11879334

>>11863465
So if I were to order something like an Alice Dayo, US Customs/FBI wouldn't be knocking on my door if I were to buy one? Namely the state of Texas and the PROTECT act and what not and could file under obscene ;_;

>> No.11879347

>>11879329
Does that 'shedding' have any effect on the overall usuability or life of it? assuming im taking good care of it.

>> No.11879369

>>11879347
Well if you take really good care of it, it should last a good while, but it does obviously have an impact.

>> No.11879385

>>11879369
I'll treat it like my own child!

hopefully it can last till the end of the year

>> No.11879399

Probably asked in previous threads, but are there any good fellatio onaholes?
http://en-nls.com/plist_p-12001217

Mainly interested in the "give me your milk!" ones, they any good?
Guessing they don't feel that different from other onaholes, but haven't owned one.

>> No.11879414

>>11879399
Milk 2 is decent if you'd like a transparent one. Superb Fella 3 is good too.
But supposedly this one is one of the best: >>11878489
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00DSI47UK/
You need to mail NLS to order it, it's not on the English site for some reason.

>> No.11879427

Never bought or used an onahole and that Puni DX looks very interesting. Am I jumping into hips to fast? Should I start out with a simple onahole before buying something pricey?

>> No.11879439

>>11879414
Thanks anon, I'll probably get the ES or the one on the link.
The JP amazon seems to giving me a white page right now so I'll have to take a look later.

>> No.11879468

>>11879399
best regarded ones are (afaik)
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-956.html
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/1-1058.html
http://www.hotpowers.jp/goods/a13-130.html

first two are hotpowers exclusives, third was already mentioned in thread

and then there's also stuff like the HEPS

>> No.11879469

>>11879414
I thought Tomatoys stuff was supposed to be mediocre. Is that one an exception? I really want to try the hotpowers ones. Overall I'd say the best I've had is the Fella 3. I didn't like the Milk 2 that much and it broke fairly quickly.

>> No.11879495

>>11879439
Here it is on JP NLS. Not sure what's going on with amazon
http://www.e-nls.com/pict1-35065

>>11879469
I have one of the hotpowers bj holes, really good, lots of suction.
And Tamatoys has some occasional good stuff, yeah.

>> No.11879545

>>11879334
I'm pretty sure protect got shot down by the supreme court because of first amendment issues
(and the fact that it was so badly written that it made pediatric medical diagrams illegal).

>> No.11879549

Anyone from UK ever used Wanta? Any good?

>> No.11879550

I'm trying to order from hot powers but getting error on my zipcode what can I do? already have all the address info in comment field

>> No.11879552

>>11879545
Oh alright, welp. Time to order an Alice Dayo. Thanks for the response and I hope my paranoia doesn't go overboard with this.

>> No.11879601

Just ordered from hot powers should I just wait for the paylink email now?

>> No.11879603

>>11879550
if you can't leave it blank just put in 00 or something
we don't really use zip codes or post codes here so that's what I always use for sites

either way you'll be putting your address w/o zipcode and with country in the comment field anyway

>> No.11879612

>>11879603
did just that.

using :

名前:[your name]
国名:[your country]
郵便番号:[zip code]
都市名:[city]
番地:[street number and name]

>> No.11879620

>>11879612
yep that should work just fine

>> No.11879683

>>11879601
missed this post but yes, they'll send you a follow up email with shipping costs included
usually takes between a few hours and a day for them to get back to you but it'll probably be longer because it's the weekend

>> No.11879703

>>11879683
ok thanks

>> No.11879751
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11879751

After lurking around, I've decided to settle on this. Lost my onahole virginity and I came within a matter of minutes. After the third time around I had a good 40 minute session. How bad is it to leave my bodily fluids + lube in the onahole until the next day to clean it?

>> No.11879766

>>11879751
I prefer peaces to pepes myself but I guess any recommendation depends on which lube you used

if you can afford it this stuff is pretty good
http://en-nls.com/pict1-27929
also please clean your onaholes more promptly in future

>> No.11879772

>>11879766
*used before

also might be worth picking up some medium sized toy bags if you haven't anything to store them in already

>> No.11879776

How do you clean loli onaholes?
I cant exactly turn them inside out, and theyre too tight to stick a napkin in

>> No.11879790

Why do all the recommended sleeves have closed tops? Are there any good open-ended onaholes?

>> No.11879796

>>11879776
Rinse it out and then put liquid hand soap on your finger and masturbate the onahole till its nice and foamy. Rinse again.
And don't shove things in like towels, just let it air dry over a few hours.

>> No.11879802

>>11879790
sleeves, not that I can think of
the puni hole dx is open though

>> No.11879805

>>11879790
Closed end holes are the most common type,
they also have this nice vacuum effect.

>> No.11879846

>>11879790
For through holes, I started with the Pocket Monster 8.
http://en-nls.com/pict1-33887
It's small, but feels good to me and is very cheap and easy to clean. You just put it under the faucet and finger it a few times.

>> No.11879967
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11879967

>>11878475
That analogy makes more sense.

I guess I will look up said NPG Meiki?

Any other suggestions for a first time hole?

>> No.11880019

>>11879414

All of a sudden no pages tagged adult will load on Amazon JP for me from outside Japan can some check if its just me.

>> No.11880035

>>11879967
Meikis are considered kinda high end holes and never really suggested for first time buyers, it's just the fact that you're in Japan already (bypassing proxy buyers) that puts them into the ridiculously affordable category
and given the price you can't really go wrong with it, it's soft, it's stimulating, it's large enough to accomodate most people
honestly the only real downside is that it has an unpleasant smell from the preservative/whatever npg uses to store it
and even that fades after just one or two washes and a few days

amazon jp isn't loading for me atm but see if you can search for 名器の証明 005 which is the most popular one in the series iirc

>> No.11880040

>>11880019
yeah that's happening to me too

>> No.11880042

>>11880019
Same thing's happening with me, maybe a restart will fix it.

>> No.11880045

>>11880019
>>11880035
>>11880040
>>11880042
S-shit are they banning no ip ips?

>> No.11880058

>>11880040
>>11880042

ugh such a nuisance had an order I wanted to make hopefully its not permanent. I am sure there is probably a way around it regardless.

>> No.11880083

>>11879766
I'll keep that in mind the next time I make a purchase.

>>11879796
I've seen people talking about using micro-fabric cloths to dry. I can see why it would work but still not sure about using them.

>> No.11880087

well I got around it seems to be an error with the age gate verification coming up, i google searched "http://www amazon co jp adult" and clicked first link and it came up.

>> No.11880094

>>11880087
thanks that fixed it.

>> No.11880135

>>11880087
thanks dude

>> No.11880249

>>11880035
Oh, yeah, looking 'em up they look more expensive than I was planning to pay. I assume ~$35 is super cheap for these things, but I'm not sure if Im comfortable spending that for my first time.

Anything cheaper thats also decent quality?

>> No.11880252

Is there anything for someone with a foot fetish? Smells, toys, etc?

>> No.11880286

>>11880249
it's cheap for a high end one, yeah
most entry level ones (for lack of a better term) will be like $15-30

>> No.11880388

>>11880286
Is there any specific brand that makes decent entry level ones? I need to order it pretty soon if I want to get it delivered before I leave Japan.

>> No.11880401

>>11880388
magic eyes, tomax, ride, outvision/exe and toy's heart are all pretty legit within the $15-30 range
just be aware that you'll probably need to buy lube as well since they're often either not packaged with any or packaged with mediocre quality lube

>> No.11880403

>>11880388
You could try magic eyes. They have a new hole, that they are advertising as an eternal virgin, with a hymen. It is a dual layer but is being sold cheap now cause of a manufacturing defect that causes the inner layer to be the same color as the outside of the hole.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/マジックアイズ-MAGIC-EYES-1089-すじまん/dp/B00HD7XAK0

>> No.11880535

>>11880403
>>11880401
I want to check these out, but I keep having this problem: >>11880087

But googling that doesnt help at all, I think its because I have a Japanese IP? Ive tried clearing my cache/cookies, and using a different browser. Nothing works.

>> No.11880542

>>11880535
try using this link to trigger the 18+ prompt, then search for what you actually want http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/bestsellers/dvd/896246?ie=UTF8&redirect=true

>> No.11880548

>>11880535
aaaaaand just figured it out, by chance.

>>11880542
I tried using a lot of links for that, but the only one that worked was the main adult page section: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/search/ref=sr_hi_2?rh=n%3A160384011%2Cn%3A%21161669011%2Cn%3A171288011&ie=UTF8&qid=1391839600

>> No.11880589

>>11880252
https://en-nls.com/pict1-33364?c2=12001111
i bet it sucks
https://en-nls.com/pict1-33703?c2=9999
https://en-nls.com/pict1-33704?c2=9999

>> No.11880640
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11880640

Gave in and ordered this one essentially randomly:
【閲覧注意】すじまんくぱぁ ろあ Ag+配合 2層構造
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%80%90%E9%96%B2%E8%A6%A7%E6%B3%A8%E6%84%8F%E3%80%91%E3%81%99%E3%81%98%E3%81%BE%E3%82%93%E3%81%8F%E3%81%B1%E3%81%81-%E3%82%8D%E3%81%82-Ag-%E9%85%8D%E5%90%88-2%E5%B1%A4%E6%A7%8B%E9%80%A0/dp/B00826IK4C/
no idea how good it is, but the price seemed alright and it looks like it could feel good?
and some pepe blue cap lotion

god have mercy on my soul
guaranteed delivery for feb 9th though so at least I will get it in time

>> No.11880669

>>11880640
probably should've taken rina over roa but it's not a bad choice by any means

>> No.11880826

Just shipped out some used holes to a fellow anon who paid for shipping.
Hope they reach you soon and that you like them, Anon!

>> No.11880832

>>11880640
Should've gone for the newest one
www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00HD7XAK0/
the bad reviews were because of an error in color, it's a great hole.

>> No.11880919

>>11880832
>>11880669
welp its too late to change anything now

though having no point of reference, I'm sure I wont notice any problems

>> No.11880956

Is this warmer worth anything or should I get something else? http://www.amazon.com/Usb-Onahole-Sex-Toy-Warmer/dp/B00G77NIZE

>> No.11880957

>>11880956
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GNIB3JA/

>> No.11880958

>>11880957
Thank you. How does it work? Do I just plug it in and wait?

>> No.11880961

>>11880958
Yup, that's how that works. It's kind of overrated though, it doesn't do THAT much, but some people like it so if you want something, get that.
The warmth fades quickly. Other ways are warming the lube, or submerging the hole for some time in warm water.
I heard people putting lube in the hole, putting the hole in a zip lock bag, and putting that in hot water. Probably best way.
The warmer is just a gadget.

>> No.11880962

>>11880961
There's a guy saying it destroys toys. Will 6 minutes ruin my Rina?

>> No.11880963

>>11880962
It destroys holes when you forget it in a toy and go away. Then the insides can melt and get flattened, rending a toy unusable.

>> No.11880984

>>11880963
I know but this guy is saying only a few minutes ruined it and it happened too quickly

>> No.11880996

>>11880984
I don't believe that, he's just being butthurt about messing up.
Just be careful and you'll be fine.

>> No.11881002

Do you think /diy/ woul know anything about making a home made heating element with a thermostat?

>> No.11881003

When i let my onaholes air dry, the inner most end is always wet.
Should I just leave it then before I use it again, rinse it out really quick? or should I use a cloth?

>> No.11881009

>>11881003

a quick rinse is fine or use as is if its only been left a day.I would only be worried if you leave it a couple weeks without using it.

>> No.11881012
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11881012

>>11881009
It's been three since I last used it.
What should I be worried about? I'm kind of scared now

>> No.11881016

>>11881012
You should always either use a cloth and go deep and make sure it's dry inside (or turn inside out if you want),
or rinse within a couple of days and use again. Otherwise it can go bad. You'll have to see.

>> No.11881019

>>11880958
20-30 minutes gets it nice and warm although you appreciate it most with the first insertion

the guy that melted his in this thread said it'd been 2 hours unattended, if you have any worries that it'll do damage in less than 10 minutes you need only plug it in and see for yourself how slowly it heats up

>> No.11881021

>>11880640
Sorry, you made a bad choice. Roa's axis is not in the center, and it is very short. You may pierce it after some uses.

Ony works if you have a thin and small microdick. I means it's extremely uncomfortable.

>> No.11881025

>>11881021
>Roa's axis is not in the center
Sorry, but off-center axis is only there in defect units. Some toys have more off-center ones though, like the Maria Meiki is known to occasionally have that.
Also, many people with bigger-than-microdick enjoy loliholes. Rina is probably better, but Roa isn't too bad.
Me personally I don't feel shit if I use thick lube with the Sujiman Roa/Rina.

>> No.11881034
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11881034

If you melt your hole, you'll have an excuse to buy more holes.

>> No.11881050

>>11881034
g-genius

>> No.11881053

>>11881050
>>11881034
But if I spend all my money on onaholes how will I afford to feed myself?

>> No.11881063

>>11881053
Just eat the melted holes.

>> No.11881074

>>11881063
But that's not as nutritious as my Soylent.

>> No.11881094
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11881094

>>11881025
>>11881021
>>11880669

Just double checked my order, I actually got Rina instead of Roa.

So hurray?

>> No.11881102

>>11881094
Bully! Good job, MiB.

>> No.11881168

>>11881094
that's a bit of luck alright, also I can't say I know pepe blue cap lube but if it's thick at all, you should probably dilute it a bit since that's a loli hole

>> No.11881230

>>11881094
People here like Rina. The price is quite good too.There are better holes but more expensive.

Have you bought lubes?

>> No.11881268

Any idea why amazon jp's age verification thing isn't popping up? It's a little annoying to have to go there everytime to refresh the cookie

>> No.11881273

>>11881268

hopefully its just a glitch that will be fixed soon since they seem to be updating the website lately.

>> No.11881501
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11881501

>>11881102
show love to the black suit

>>11881168
>>loli hole
well.

that was not my intention, but lolis are cute too I suppose

>>11881230
yeah, I got Pepe blue cap lube, just picked one from a brand I recognized with next day shipping.

In other news, the delivery is on track for tomorrow, but I have some last minute errands to do in the afternoon, so there's a chance I wont be home when they show up. Wrote a dual language note telling the guy to leave the package in front of my door or with my friend across the hall. Really would hate to miss the thing after getting all flustered over it.

>> No.11881807

>>11881501
I did.

>> No.11882046

Short term:
Wash out with water and soap
Bump out as much water as you can
Use a paper towel to absorb water inside the hole.
Leave hole out to dry

Long term:
Short term + use powder on outside and inside of hole

Anything I'm missing?

>> No.11882079

>>11877734
This is fucking hot, are there any more monster girl onaholes? Standard onaholes are so boring.

>> No.11882166

>>11882046
don't powder the insides of the hole, you wouldn't want the powder to mix with the moisture and cake up.

>> No.11882339
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11882339

Toydemon has a Valentine's deal going on

>> No.11882772

Argh, I hate to be off-topic, but I need to ask. Are you eating Soylent?

>> No.11882946
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11882946

>>11882079
http://en-nls.com/plist_p-12001318

Wet Meiki Shin is excellent value.

>> No.11883561

Guys, is there a toy out there specifically for thick dicks? All my toys keep ripping after five uses or so and I have problems getting it in some of them.
Only thing I found on NLS was some deepthroat cup but that mouth worries me.

>> No.11883859

The next revolution in onahole tech will be onaholes with a high heat capacity.

Called it here first, remember that

>> No.11883887

Are the ないしょのついんでーるず(I saw them very often in previous threads) or that tomadachi ga sukunai ones any good? Any opinion on them?

>> No.11884030
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11884030

I read that condoms are usable with onaholes but my Crown condoms get stuck to the inside of any of my onaholes and break if I move, even when using a lot of water based lube. Can only circumcised use condoms with onaholes or is there a trick to it? Post has one onahole I use. Please help, onahole connoisseurs.

>> No.11884034

>>11884030
ditch the condom

>> No.11884038

>>11884034
It feels good and I like the quick cleanup to keep going for more.

>> No.11884062

>>11883887
I think the twin tales one is pretty popular here, v2 being a bit larger
anime parody holes are normally terrible though

>> No.11884064

>>11883561
which have you tried already?

>> No.11884093

>>11884062
NEET girl? How is that?

>> No.11884103

>>11884093
I can't find anything on nls or amazon matching that name
but if it's a 10bux tamatoys parody hole you can safely disregard it

>> No.11884139
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11884139

Which Venus - Real, Clone, or Cross, and which softness - hard, normal, or soft?

I'm leaning towards a hard Clone but I'm certainly open to suggestions.

>> No.11884143
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>>11881807
and thats why you're my favorite

in other news, its 7:43 pm, and the no package yet. i was out until recently, but the note i left on my door for the deliveryman doesnt appear to have been touched, and theres no missed delivery slip or anything, The amazon tracking says "on delivery" as of 3:40pm, so its possible the guy is still out there on his way?

I would hate to have missed him and have to pay American markups.

>> No.11884150

>>11884139
Hard will make you cum instantly if you're sensitive at all. I'd personally go for a soft/super soft clone/real, or a normal if you're adventurous. What other onaholes have you used? I can compare the material types to them.

>> No.11884170

>>11884150

I have had a Super Tight Declaration Shimetan, the Lilith Spiral (normal softness), the 17 Bordeaux, R-20, and my Puni DX.

Shimetan definitely has been my favorite, but sadly I melted the inside and made it all smooth overnight several weeks ago and had to chuck it. The Spiral is definitely high-quality, but I found it to be a little understimulating, though I suppose that might be the lube, I don't know. Regardless, it's also Tomax which is what I'm basing my "hard" choice on. The Bordeaux is okay, but the R-20 isn't good. It feels like rubber on my dick, I like high stimulation but the material is too abrasive. And lastly my Puni is nice, I do like it, but I think the feeling of the Shimetan is better and it is of course a lot more convenient.

I was going to order a Shimetan or two from NLS since they're finally back in stock but thought I should consider the Venus line since so many people love it.

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>>11884143
>>11884143
Delivery man just showed up. Apparently he read my note, left, and came back later in the day to make sure I got the package. Holy crap I will miss Japanese customer service.

So now I have my loli pussy sex toy and a much bigger tube of lube than I was expecting. But the real question is, what do I do with the postcard that came in the box?

>> No.11884179

>>11884170
I'd say soft would be softer than the Shimetan, and hard would be more akin the material of the Puni. I have a Soft Lilith Uterus and it's floppy as fuck if I hold it from one side, and just clings to me when I use it.
>>11884172
Jerk off on it, or keep it as a collectable and show your friends.

>> No.11884186

>>11884030
Also I have not put corn starch on my onaholes in a long time. I doubt it is that though.

>> No.11884220

>>11884179

All right, I do think I'll go with hard then, thanks. I hope it arrives before Friday, I don't want to wait over next weekend too.

>> No.11884267
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11884267

>2014
>not using Mother Nature's own onahole

>> No.11884316

What can I expect from chinese knock-offs of famous products?

>> No.11884342

>>11884139
Real in Very Soft or Clone in Soft would be my recommendations. Just avoid Cross. It's actually pretty terrible imo.

>> No.11884642

>>11883561
Bad Dragon holes may suit you. It's made of silicione, very durable and very expensive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2e8S-Oxk9Y

>> No.11884761

>>11884316
It's like always.

Quality is more or less determinate by maker and model. If the maker is not known, the quality is not known either.

If a maker has its only identity but similar name, at least you have a chance to trace their records. If it's only a fake, then do not expect quality or durability.

Think before purchase.

>> No.11885273

>>11884030
Why the hell would you have a 17Evo and then use a condom with it? Isn't one of its selling points the whole cumming in the womb thing?

>> No.11885637

I want to order Kupa-LO from NLS but noticed that even their Japanese site isn't selling it anymore. Think there's any point in emailing them and asking?

>> No.11885679

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