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New Higurashi VN, get hype.

>>12226993
>When they cry _

No 6, no hype.

>>12227003
still, I'd like to know more about this, even if Higurashi isn't the best out there

>>12226979
Saw this and came.

>>12227018
I was going to call you names and insult your grandmother but after seeing the op I admit I small sliver of hype is beginning to sprout in the far recess of my heart.

And now a story from the future. Three worlds will create a spiral. Beyond it...is who~o...

The first world is a world far in the future. The "Earth Eastern Alliance" advances into space. Leaving the solar system, they widened their territory through the galaxy.

Now, in space, were you able to see the small fireworks? Those small fireworks were the total sum of both camps' 200 quadrillion UA $ space fleets being annihilated in both civilizations' first battle in space.

Both fleets, having taken too much damage in the battle, have evaded further combat. The war became that which was thought to be a relic of the pre-space age: a land war in the bog of each colonized planet.

>>12227045
My masterpiece sense is tingling.

Though R07 never said it is WtC 5.

>>12227045
Why are you posting that here? It's not related to this thread.

>>12227054
Sorry for that.

>>12226979
You know, I'm just as hype as everyone else, but this series needs to learn when to stop, just stop!

We had a climax, there's absolutely no fucking reason to keep this ride going.

It has no bats and isn't set in a Romanian village.

My dreams are crushed.

>>12227155
There won't be much new and i don't have to listen and read to any other shitty platform anymore. So it's not that bad for me reading these stories in a regulair form for once.

Don't know if this was translated.

Hello. Ryukishi07 here.
I'm the representative for the doujin circle 07th Expansion that released the PC novel game, Higurashi no Naku Koro ni.

The mysterious deaths and disappearances taking place in the fictious village of Hinamizawa is depicted in "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni", Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Kai, "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Rei" and were published as an collaborative work during a four year period.

This time's announcement of "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Hou" will be a rendition of the unpublished original script of Higurashi no Naku Koro ni, "Hinamizawa Bus Stop", "Higurashi Outbreak" and the recent "Higurashi Outbreak Kamikanshi-hen".

We have taken all editions from the past of "Higurashi no Naku Koro ni" and merged them together.

>>12227236

>>12227045
Fuck Higurashi, what is this? When They Cry 5? When was this announced? What do we know about it?

>>12227278

Read >>12227045 and >>12227050
>R07 never said it is WtC 5.

>>12227291
But it probably is

>>12227295
>>12227236

>>12227296
No.

>>12227045 is no Higurashi...

>>12227236
Neat.

>we will never get when they cry 5

When Fans Cry 1

>>12227050
>googled WtC 5 to look for any related information
>get a bunch of 9/11 conspiracy sites

>>12228089
>>12228023
Who are you quoting?

>>12226979
>06/27/14
Holy shit.
10fucking years and he is still so bad at drawing.

>>12228099
no one
I'm intentionally misusing the quoting feature to piss you off
I also didn't sage this off topic post
have a colorful horse to make you feel better

will k1 and rena finally fug?

>>12227155
It's a prequel set in Feudal Japan, though.

I think it could be interesting. And I think it's fair for Hanyuu to get a series to herself, since she was only in the last 2 EPs.

>>12228148
Not a chance.

K1 only fucks Mion.

The Higurashi game comes C86.
The space game what is probably WTC5 come C87.

Does anyone have the English translation patch for Saikoroshi-hen? The only DL link I could find for it is dead, but I know it's floating around the internet somewhere.

Hopefully it'll still work on the copy of Higurashi Rei that'll be in Hou's bundle.

>>12229154
Couldn't Higanbana have been WTC5, if it just had a different title? It had the same feel.

What does a title need to be WTC: Repeating time loops? 8 episodes, split into two sections? Witches?

Well, whatever the title ends up being, it won't matter as long as it's really good.

>>12229332
>It had the same feel.

Not enough of a mind-screw. Higanbana had roughly the same theme and the same atmosphere as Higurashi/Umineko, but without overarching mystery elements. I feel it's a very good introduction to WtC, though.

>Repeating time loops? 8 episodes, split into two sections? Witches?

Overarching mystery explored through repeating time loops with people dying. Witches are a bonus.

>>12227236
>The original script
So will will finally see who R07 planned as OTP right, none of this Mion v Rena bullshit love triangle.

MIon pls win.

>>12230132
They mean the original script of Hinamizawa Bus Stop. I don't think K1 even existed back then.

>>12230248
Mion and Rika were the only ones that were created along with Hanyuu.

>>12229332
Higanbana was simply Ryukishi resting and doing something easy. No real connection to the WtC series.
He was likely taking this time to plan the next WtC.
This is theorized by him not doing much of the art in Rose Guns Days.
Instead of wasting time doing the art there, he simply focused on Space WtC.
Also worth noting that RGD used a lot of left over tracks from Umineko. So it's quite possible that dai and the other composers have been working on the next WtC exclusively.

>>12227278
There's a lot being speculated.
Basically, it takes place in space.
My personal theory is that we're going to get backdrop info on Hanyuu and how she came to Hinamizawa.

Personal bet is that Hanyuu is an alien and that we are going to learn more on Hanyuu, her race and her clan. There would technically be some merit to Takano's bullshit theory on the space ship in the swam.
Rika also mentions in Higurashi that Hanyuu came to Hinamizawa a long time ago by some unknown means which were written in the ancient scroll in the Shrine.

We will likely hear that they came from the M37 Cluster for whatever reasons and the next WtC will take place in three separate space station in that cluster.

Ryukishi stated in an interview that he did not have plans for making a WtC yet but if he did, it would be something across time and generations.
Something akin to curses across time periods and families, space and location.

Another point of interest is that Ryukishi said that he did not want to make another Umineko.
This has been interpreted as Ryukishi not wanting to make a WtC but this is false. He simply doesn't want to make a heavily meta game like Umineko.
I personally theorize that rather than meta, he will do ''mesa''.
Mesa is inner descriptive and goes more into details which is opposite to meta.

For more info of mesa check:
http://www.gwiztraining.com/Whats%20the%20opposite%20of%20meta.pdf

>>12230352
>My personal theory is that we're going to get backdrop info on Hanyuu and how she came to Hinamizawa.

But it takes place in the future?

That'd be cool, but I don't think it will be quite so intimately related to Higurashi.

>>12231062
>But it takes place in the future?

It also doesn't have to be fully connected.
Just have Hanyuu give a line saying ''oh yeah, I know it's my fault coming to this planet, bla bla bla'' or something, because the XXXXXXX had something something bad happening''.
The Higurashi pamphlet mentions that they haven't talked for centuries, so it can take place before the Hinamizawa disaster where Hanyuu has to sacrifice herself or after Rika wins.

The next WtC will take place in the present, the immediate present and the future.
It's worth noting that Ryukishi stated in an interview that if he ever did another WtC, it would be something that isn't a catbox. Since most people figured out they take place in a closed location, he wanted to do the opposite, namely make a story that goes through generations, time period. A curse that is not restricted to a single area. So it'll likely bounce around in time.

It's not going to be fully connected to Higurashi but there is a strong chance that M37 will be the next location and be connected to Hinamizawa and Higurashi that way.

If you check wikipedia and google on the M37 cluster, you'll find three ideal spot where stations could be located.
This works with the Space WtC synopsis given in the pamphlet.

>>12230352
>Mion and Rika were the only ones that were created along with Hanyuu.
What the fuck was it even about?
3 characters...
Suprising that evolved into something with as many as Higurashi.

>>12234373
Well, it was just a short story.

>>12230352
But Hanyu's story had a whole arc in Kizuna for it. Tough there a little english information from it.

>>12234373
Eh ? Obviously it had more characters than that dude, I own the manga, there are also two guys working for the Dam project, a photographer, and Irie being the fucking evil mastermind while an adult Rena and Takano are part of her team along with two other random dudes.

So next WtC (World Trade Center) is going to be sci-fi?

Will it have gun fight and exciting space action?

>>12234484

Shion returns as Gunnery Sgt. Shion.
Rena returns as Recon specialist Pvt. Rena.

>>12234373
Mion and Rika wait at a bus stop, hence the name, when two other dudes come along.
Scary shit happens.

I forgot what it's about.
Mion was a lot more lively in the short than what we know her today. Rika acts all cynical but more likely and has breast.

I wonder if Hou will give new sprites to the new Mion and Rika in that story.

>>12234484
One of the characters are shown to have laser guns hoisted. >>12227045
So there's a good chance that the answer is yes.

>>12234681
cool i'm gonna wait warmly

>>12234682
Nipaa

Welp, seems we got a batch of Higurashi Hou jacket art and screenshots.

Seems interesting.

>>12240146

>>12240146
>>12240149
Where did you get that from?

>>12240273
http://www.office-mk.co.jp/pcshop/images/hou/hou_l.jpg
http://www.office-mk.co.jp/pcshop/special/hou_ss.html

>>12240146
>tfw when you need to draw shitty drawing to keep the art coherent with the period you were super shitty.

Being Ryukishi07 is suffering.

>>12240355
who are you quoting?

>>12240356
I wanted at least one person to reply to me. Thank you anon.

>>12240360
Thank you?

Preorders for Higurashi Hou are open at AmiAmi, by the way:
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=GAME-0011787

>>12240417
Preordered.

>>12227003
What's the 5?

What seems the most interesting to me is this one.

Hanyuu and whateverthefuckhernameis talking in the sea of Kakera.

I always thought it would be interesting if Hanyuu's race would be the bridge between the actual world and the meta world seen in Higurashi.

Like, her alien race got so meta and stuff that they ascended to the meta world but can still interact with the natural world while the witches reside in the meta world but mainly fuck around with kakera rather than stick to a specific world.

>>12240728
Also, yay for Rena holding her weapon of choice.
Seems Ryukishi has learned how to make his characters hold weapons after Umineko.

Also, I guess this answers my question concerning >>12234681 if Ryukishi will give sprites to his character of Hinamizawa Bus Stop.

Seems somewhat fucking lazy though.

>>12240737
Seriously, what the fucking fuck Ryukishi?

>>12240740
How can you make even shittier art than the one you had before?

>>12240743
Arghhh, can't deal with this crap.

I'm still going to preorder this but holy crap is this bad.

>>12240417
>http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=GAME-0011787

I don't usually buy Japanese language stuff, but I think I'll get this now just to hope for the eventual English translation patch.

I could see the stock running out for this thing.

>>12240728
Oh ho, looking kind of Touhou there.

>>12240417
Oh, there's another sprite unposted here. Finally the "3 punk mooks" get their time to shine.

Do you need to have read all the previous Higurashi before reading Hou, or is this completely separate?

We always have to get people like these...

>>12241014
Why would you ever read a fucking fandisk before the actual story?

>>12241014
Hou is all the Higurashi Arcs and the additional arcs.
>>12241020
>fandisc
What? The game is released by 07th Expansion.

>>12241032
Someone doesn't know what a fandisk is.

>>12241038
Just explain what you mean? The extra arcs that weren't written by Ryu? Or do you consider the non WTC1 and WTC2 Arcs as fanmaterial?

>>12241043
>>12241032
fandisk is a term meaning for the fans, similar to fanbook.

>>12241032
ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ファンディスク
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_disc
Educate yourself, please.

>>12241074
Well ok sry I admit that was stupid,
A bit tired here. Still hope they get translated one day.

>>12241014
>Do you need to have read all the previous Higurashi before reading Hou, or is this completely separate?

The truth is, nobody knows since it's not released yet. It could possibly read well on it's own, but nobodies read it yet.

I'd bet on probably not, though, even if it's a "prequel" of sorts.

>>12230248
>Hinamizawa Bus Stop
Sorry for asking that, but what's Hinamizawa Bus Stop? Was it released?

>>12241847
>Hinamizawa Bus Stop

It was a script for a play that Ryukishi07 wrote before Higurashi. It was basically a "proto-Higurashi," featuring early versions of Rika and Mion. A historical curiosity, mostly.

>>12226979
okay so will this go deeper into the meta lore that combines umineko and Higurashi? like all the weird outer realm shit? whats it about?
>>12227045
What is this? please explain. its been so long since the 07 hype days, always getting a new ep every winter or summer season translated was the best feeling, i miss those days. will this be his new big thing?

So is the good old r07 gonna be back? not the shitty rose gun days r07? I want my horror/mystery and hype and the long name screaming BATTTTTLERRRRRRR.

I have a feeling by the end of this new Higurashi and the new wtc, everyone will be going, TAKANO WAS RIGHT.

>>12242463
Have you played Higanbana yet?

>>12242449
As far as we know, it will (to some degree) take place in the past, back in Feudal Japan. And this girl will be a main character: http://whentheycry.wikia.com/wiki/Tamura_Himenomikoto

I hope they do go into the supernatural discrepancy between Umineko/Higurashi. In Umineko, everything can be explained by humans. In Higurashi, it was "Yeah, there's just pagan deities."

>>12227045
I have a feeling it won't be a new WTC. If it was, wouldn't Ryu call it "WTC 5" from the start? It'll probably be a shorter work like Higanbana.

>>12242508
>I have a feeling it won't be a new WTC. If it was, wouldn't Ryu call it "WTC 5" from the start? It'll probably be a shorter work like Higanbana.
Please. Let me believe.

So maybe all the witches and meta stuff were actually meta god aliens in umineko and huragashi? one of the two races from >>12227045 ? Maybe "magic" was just super tech but was forgotten by even the alien race and when they landed on earth over time it was just called magic and the "witches and hanu gods/deities" are the two aliens races ??

>>12242513
why would you not want another wtc hype again. Higanbana and rgd didnt give hype or the same level of content that a wtc ever gave.

>>12242563
I want one. So I want to believe it's a new WTC.

>>12242563
>>12242566
I want to believe it's a new WTC.

However, looking at it logically, I don't believe it will be.

Still, Higanbana was A++ (I've already played both episodes twice over), so I wouldn't worry about it. Heck, if Ryukishi just made more Higanbana, I'd be happy. There was a bit of a "Too be continued...?" moment at the end of Second Night.

>>12242651
Ryukshi confirmed it was WtC with the pamphlet.

Also, I have no idea how you can logically believe the next work won't be a next WtC.
The main scenario theme is there, space, so there are insane possibilities concerning music and storytelling.

It's related back to Hanyuu and the setting will likely be M37 as >>12230352 shows.

Ryukishi had 3 full years to plan for this.
It's WtC and it's going to be great.

A full scale space opera.
>>12242556
You know the ol' quote, any advanced society is indistinguishable from magic.

We'll likely learn in Hou more about Hanyuu's race.
This will likely show us a bridge between the meta world and the actual world with Hanyuu's race.

I'm seriously excited.

Hanyuu's race likely went somewhere betwen meta and the real world.

>>12243009
Hopefully the new WtC won't have meta wanking in it, but I'm pretty sure Ryukishi learned his lesson from Umineko's poor reception.

>>12243033
Not him but i thought the mysterious "outer world lore" or meta stuff was really interesting. I swear i thought umineko was going somewhere with it, and even thought huragashi characters was gonna appear to help battler. I really thought battler giving up and submitting to fate was the worst though, it was the complete opposite of huragashi's themes. instead of trying to fight fate and bring back beato... it was really shitty. ep7 was the worst of all though, never just switch out your main character out of nowhere. Actually all of the answer eps right after battler became the game master and finally felt like something epic was about to happen, it went to shit. the meta and lore of umineko was fine, it deepened the when they cry series world even more, it was actually r07 ruining battler as a character.

>>12243033
>Hopefully the new WtC won't have meta wanking in it, but I'm pretty sure Ryukishi learned his lesson from Umineko's poor reception.
Nope.

Me and another anon actually theorized that Ryukishi will go completely opposite from meta; namely he'll do ''mesa''.

Mesa means 'to go into' rather than over or about something. So basically, go more into details and whatnot. This fits very well with sci-fi where space stuff is very imaginative about technology and whatever.

Now, imagine a WtC where we have an actual truthworthy narrator rather than an unreliable narrator. I personally think that's where we are headed with the next Space WtC.

Also, Ryukishi mentioned that he was not going to do another work similar to Umineko.
So no more worries about meta.

For more info on Mesa, check http://www.gwiztraining.com/Whats%20the%20opposite%20of%20meta.pdf

It's rather interesting.

>>12243041
Battler died when he solved Umineko.
After episode 6, there was only Tohya dressed up as Battler.

>>12242500
Higanbana a shit.
I fucking loved Higurashi, the first arc made me totally paranoid.

>>12243009
>Ryukshi confirmed it was WtC with the pamphlet.

Source? Or if you have the pamphlet yourself, please scan the part of it saying "When They Cry 5" on it.

>>12243083
>Also, Ryukishi mentioned that he was not going to do another work similar to Umineko.
>So no more worries about meta.
That's good to hear.
Umineko's meta sequences and discussions made me feel smart, but at the same, I was sometimes frustrated with Battler's unstable intelligence. Sometimes he figured out what was going on, and other time, he was easily cornered.

Not to mention it's not satisfying to read 8 episodes only to have a "the mystery will never be solved" message.

>>12243172
To each their own. I would actually rate Higanbana about the question arcs of Higurashi. Something like this:

1. Umineko
2. Higurashi Kai
3. Umineko Chiru
4. Higanbana 1st and 2nd Night
5. Higurashi
6. Rose Guns Days

>>12243186
What's wrong with Rose Guns Days, honestly?
Okay, it's not mystery, and it's not Ryukishi007's usual game, but I liked it anyway. Felt like fresh air after Umineko's heavy story.

>>12243041
You could say that Higurashi is a work of childish themes and Umineko is a work of mature themes. Ryukishi could write Umineko after experiencing the death of a loved one first hand.

Higurashi: "Miracles! LOL, bullets can be stopped easily!"
Umineko: "When people die, they're dead. You can only bring them back by pretending."

>>12243197
That's the main problem with Umineko : it constantly contradicts itself.
It repeats that magic exist, that you must believe in magic, in a young girl's heart how the music can free her, whenever it starts and it's magic, if the music is groovy, it makes you feel happy like an old-time movie, I'll tell you about the magic, and it'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger bout rock and roll.

And then just after that, it tells you magic doesn't exist and that you're a fucking inbred retarded moron for believing in magic.

>>12243192
I just finished the first episode, and I hear it improves after that. It's not bad, per se. The story just feels aimless to me. It seemed to be improving in the 2nd half, though, once the real main villain was introduced.

I think the "game" parts hurt the narrative. Like those parts where you choose between 3 places to go, but you'll have to go to all of them eventually, and your choice doesn't have any effect on the story...what was the point of that? Also, at least in the 1st episode, the fighting game ruins the tension of fight scenes, because you know the good guys will always win them.

>>12243209
Kinda true, but just to nitpick, I'd like to say that you're wrong.
Near the end of the first episode, there's a fight between the faggot and the wild dog whatshisname, which you automatically lose, despite winning it.
They shoulda kept these fights scenes for bosses and such instead of using them for every small fight.

But it allows me to hear Shall We Dance? more often, so I'm not complaining.

>>12243211
Yeah, there was that one fight, which did surprise me.

I think Mad Dog Wayne might be my favorite character from RGD so far. He's so moe.

>>12243203
I actually like that part of Umineko. And I like how it never gives a single "true" solution.

I like fiction that forces you to think about things, and that teases your expectations.

>>12243229
>teases your expectations.
More like shitting on you expectations.

>>12243229
>I like fiction that forces you to think about things
Umineko's first half did that. Just like Higurashi.
But while Higurashi gave you a clear answer, Umineko just plays around, and even tells you that there's no answer.
And personally, I hated that. And I'm really saying "hate". Not dislike, but hate. I felt like I read all of this, wondering as Battler was wondering, looking for solutions to closed room murders while at work, thinking about demons and logical fallacies, all of that for NOTHING, since there was no solution.

I was really furious.

>>12243197
umineko was shit towards the end and the path it took and battler became a shitty main character in the answer eps no matter what your excuse is. it being "realistic" (even though it wasnt, at all just really shit at what it wanted to be) doesn't cover the fact that battler became a character with no resolve or actually any character development in the end of it all, he just became emo and that was the end of his character after all you read. there was no development of the story and even worse he completely shoved a random main character out of nowhere in the second to last ep. And to think battler was such a great character to the point of him getting drunk and depressed and STILL coming through. All of that good character was thrown out the window for whatever shit reason and replaced with a shallow and flat character. this is why umineko failed and why it was hated towards the end. it didnt try and fullfill , well fucking anything it tried to be.

>>12243240
True, Battler was more likeable than Keiichi. He has more personality, he cried, screamed, boasted in front of other characters.
And the third-person narration was better, it allowed the player to see how the main character looked like.

I wonder, does anybody know where can I find RGD Last Season? It should come with the whole thing, right? I really can't find it anywhere.

>>12243234
I agree with all you say, except one thing
>I was really furious.
That's small time. I AM really furious after years.

>>12243243
>Battler was more likeable than Keiichi
Battler definitely had "more personality," mostly due to R07's own evolution, but I just can't forget about K. He's the master. He had so many good moments.

>>12243249
COUGH COUGH nyaatorrent COUGH COUGH


>I agree with all you say, except one thing
>I was really furious.
>That's small time. I AM really furious after years.
I can't be furious. I got a teeth removed the day before yesterday. I'm in too much pain to be furious.

>Battler definitely had "more personality," mostly due to R07's own evolution, but I just can't forget about K. He's the master. He had so many good moments.
True, but because you never see him, I always imagined him as a brown-haired dwarf. I also had a hard time taking him seriously, since he jokes a lot. The lack of expression really was troublesome.

>>12243234
>But while Higurashi gave you a clear answer, Umineko just plays around, and even tells you that there's no answer.

It's true, though.

>"That's okay... In this world, ......there is no truth. ......The truth is made later on and overwrites what comes before it. Real truth......doesn't exist anywhere......" - Beatrice, End of the Golden Witch

>>12243249
You can buy it from MangaGamer's site: http://www.mangagamer.com/detail.php?goods_type=1&product_code=110

>>12243261
>It's true, though.
Nonsense. The truth exists, and there is only one truth. Denying that fact is just biggotry.

>>12243263
>Buy it
Get out, MangaGamer devs.

Is this the TYPE-MOON thread?

>>12243411
it's a TYPE-ZUN07 thread

>>12240737
I actually quite like them. Reminds me of classic Chunsoft games like Kamaitachi no Yoru.

>>12240926
I'm curious to see if any fan translation groups will pick this up. That's not to say that we (Spider Lily) won't do it, but that would really be up to our translators. …I'll talk to them about it though and am certainly willing to assist anyone who does want to translate it. It'll be done by hook or by crook. That much is a certainty.

>>12241014
Higurashi Hou includes all the previous entries: Higurashi, Higurashi Kai and Higurashi Rei. You should of course read the eight main chapters first, but there's no need to purchase anything separately.

>>12242449
In short, Higurashi Hou will be released next month, and 07th Expansion will be releasing the first instalment of their new space-themed series in December. It has not been described as a When They Cry sound novel.

>>12243009
I think you are confusing Higurashi Hou with the upcoming space-themed series. Higurashi Hou is indeed part of the When They Cry series. However, it is not When They Cry 5.

>>12240356
Enough with this fucking internal meme joke, pls.

>>12244124
Right after when start using quote properly, mister Anon.

>>12244124
Just report and move on.

>>12244149
But I did nothing wrong ;_;

>>12243667
>I think you are confusing Higurashi Hou with the upcoming space-themed series. Higurashi Hou is indeed part of the When They Cry series. However, it is not When They Cry 5.
I'm not mixing the two.
Higurashi Hou is part of WtC, since the short story of Hanyuu and her clan will be related to Higurashi.

However, space WtC will be WtC 5.
Hanyuu's back story will give bakcdrop info on the next WtC.

Wait, wait, wait. What? What does this mean?
I should keep reading, but yeah, this is unsettling.

>>12244434
Does anybody know what happens in Kotohogushi-hen?
I don't remember this being shown in the show (which I watched years ago), so now I'm curious as fuck.

Oh boy.

>>12244694
Trying too hard boy.

>>12244756
When we get little flags in WTC5's space food I expect you'll come here and apologize.

>>12244759
Be assured I will. And I expect nothing less of you if there is no little flags in WTC5's space food.

>>12244203
Rule #3 : Do not post the following outside of /b/: (...) uncalled for catchphrases
Rule # 6: The quality of posts is extremely important to this community. Contributors are encouraged to provide high-quality images and informative comments.

With your "who are you quoting", you're violating two rules.

So I read hurgashi up to the last ep and randomly stopped. should i wait for the re-translation steam version, pirate it and read it all over again? does the steam version have all the eps at once? I dont remember but i really didn't think the translation was that bad. Will witch hunt translate the new hurgashi? Also why has noone translated rei? how will i ever know the full story if hou gets translated? is rei really not important? how long will hou be?

>>12245251
Rei is just a bonus, with some Umineko tease.

>>12245251
Most of Rei was already translated, at least everything that wasn't retarded fanservice.

>>12245251
>Also why has noone translated rei?
I don't think it was noone who translated what's translated of Rei.

>>12245251
The issue with the original translation of Higurashi wasn't just that it was poorly edited, but also that the translation itself wasn't very accurate. So I'd definitely recommend waiting for the new translation… and buy it, of course!

Higurashi will be released on Steam episodically, chapter-by-chapter as each is completed. The first chapter will hopefully be released later this year.

The Witch Hunt are currently working on Rose Guns Days, so they'd only be able to pick up Higurashi Hou when (or if) they're finished with that, which isn't likely to be anytime soon. I'd actually say there's a better chance that we, Spider Lily Translations, will pick up Higurashi Hou (though I certainly can't confirm anything before the game is even released).

Higurashi Rei is a fandisc, and I hope it will be fully translated eventually, but isn't particularly important.

It's probably best not to think of Hou as a proper instalment in the series. Rather, think of it as a DVD boxset containing all the seasons of your favourite TV series, along with a bonus disc featuring extras. Hou is a bit like that, containing all the previous content, plus a few extra short stories. It's worth noting that Ryukishi07 only had about half a year to write all the new content.

>>12245324
Is there still a live download link of Saikoroshi-hen patch, though? I've been looking for it but can't download it.

What about the PS2 episodes? They apparently countains Higurashi's True End or some shit like that.

>>12247136
Is it written by Ryu07? Or is it written because people want a more "realistic" ending or something?

>>12247189
Was written by Ryu007, because the original ending wasn't grimderp enough and he hates hapiness.

>>12247520
I feel the characters deserve their happy end so fuck grimderp in this case.

>>12247136
>>12247189
It was made because Matsuribayashi-hen wasn't done in time for the PS2 game. R07 doesn't have the rights to use it, it's owned by Alchemist.

I can't wait to reread Higurashi while being distracted by Mion and Shions big bad looking hooters. Thank you Manga Gamer for the gifts you are about to bestow upon us.

>>12247520
Actually opposite, Ryukishi loves his happy endings and has to force himself to make unhappy endings.

Though it sort of makes sense considering Rika does a 'miracle' and catches a bullet in midair by using a miracle.
Real world? Hanyuu gets shot, the end. And it's apparently what happens in the route along with other stuff like solving everyone's problems which is something the last arc didn't really do.

>>12246388
It's true that Ryukishi only has about a year but most of the content in this one, at least for me when I compare it to his other works, seem pretty small.
There's another Outbreak (wacky fun time in the post apocalypse, his old Hinamizawa Bus Stop story, one original concerning Hanyuu and her clan, and a collection of basically everything.

To me, it seems Ryukishi is mostly skipping this year. He's adding a few small stories and gives basically Higurashi in a single package to make up for him.

I'd love to imagine the reason he's not putting much in Hou is so that he can work full time on his Space WtC.-

It would be great if someone uses the new Mangagamer translation onto Hou. Either way, I'm buying the new Mangagamer chapters of Higurashi when they come out.

Witch Hunt will likely not do Hou considering Higurashi's length. Though they might do the small original content? Heh, who knows.
And honestly, the only thing on Rei that was worth reading was translated. The rest, you can just watch the Kira anime and get it there.
DEEN actually being close to the source works out this time around.

>>12247520
Also, why are there two Renas?

>>12248293
>the only thing on Rei that was worth reading was translated
Too bad it was machine-translated drivel.

>>12248293
>Also, why are there two Renas?
No idea. That's a weird bug I ran in totally randomly while playing with save/load. The background isn't the good one either.

>Real world? Hanyuu gets shot, the end
Thanks for spoiling the arc.

>>12248293
>There's another Outbreak
Don't you mean Daybreak?

So this is basically Higurashi(the whole thing) + extra, mostly unreleased, content. However, judging by the trailer it looks like it's getting a visual overhaul. It's definitely not going to be released in 640x480 in A.D 2014. I presume it will be in 720p with redone or at least higher res sprites and backgrounds. Any info on that thou?

>>12248596
>It's definitely not going to be released in 640x480 in A.D 2014. I presume it will be in 720p with redone or at least higher res sprites and backgrounds
HAH! Keep dreaming. Plenty of doujin games are still released in low-res.

>>12248610
Silly me, I've just realized that those fuckers still run win xp and use CRT monitors(well, I kinda do as well).

>>12248629
HA! HA!

I'm using Vista.

>>12248429
I'm pretty sure he doesn't.
Daybreak is the game, Outbreak was a story included in its soundtrack.

>>12248946
Oh. Then I don't know it.

>>12248596
Nope. It'll be in 640x480. The new sprites will of course be drawn in a slightly different style, but the existing ones will remain the same. Click for screenshots:
http://www.office-mk.co.jp/pcshop/special/hou_ss.html

>>12248629
Don't quote me on this, but IIRC, they're running Windows 7. They definitely have LCD screens, at least.

>>12249160
There's an anime/movie/OVA that DEEN made.
Weirdly enough, not many people have read the Outbreak short story included in the soundtrack.

Ryukishi is making another Outbreak short story which was likely made so that DEEN could make another shitty movie out of it.

There's something I don't get with Higurashi.
Irie (the doctor) knew what kind of person was Takano, and yet he never suspected a thing when convenient murders took place at the same time each year?

>>12250777
Takano was only involved in the 1979, 1981, and of course, 1983 incidents. I'm not sure why you think otherwise, since it's quite clear that Irie was fully aware of what was happening.

>>12251812
But when she dies in the last year, he doesn't suspect any tomfoolery?

>>12251970
He was confused as hell and didn't know what to believe. There were too much big possibilities and that's why he was afraid as hell. In front of other people it was at first silently but you didn't see that much behind that at first.

>>12251970
He actually had to consider Tokyo blaming him for everything. Most of his last hours was spent thinking what the fuck was going on. He actually kills himself not long after they find Takano, you know.

>>12253647
>He actually kills himself not long after they find Takano
Ha.
Something didn't finish the last answer arcs.

Hehehehheeheheheheheh -from Tumblr with love

>>12254008
Wat...

>>12254274
He doesn't kill himself, he's murdered by the ponytailed guy, the leader of the Yamainu.

>>12254616
Now i understand."Someone" and not "Something"

>>12254008
>Something didn't finish the last answer arcs.

>>12254633
Hu?
Oh shit.

>>12254616
What? No, he kills himself with pills because he realizes his life is already over and Tokyo/the law will assrape him to hell anyways.

>>12255803
Abandoning Hinamizawa? I doubt so. Not his style.

>>12255803
he really is murdered by Okonogi, tho.

>>12258828
>>12258842
The novel literally says he killed himself.

>>12260445
No, they forcefully force Irie to take the pills and kill himself so that it looks like he's the mastermind.
There's no proof that Irie was behind anything but suicide, by implication alone, shows that he was escaping something. This is how Tokyo is able to put blame on him.

It's mentioned by everyone that he's killed himself but he has no incentive for him to do so, especially when he was ready to kill himself for Satoko.
And considering how Rika appeared out of nowhere, it's clear that in one Kakera, he was killed by the Yamainu.

>>12260445
Correction : the people in the novel said that.
But they can be wrong, remember 34's autopsy.

Yeah I'm talking in code.

>>12261060
Yeah, the thing is they actually reveal what actually went on with 34's body.
Where do they reveal what actually went on with Irie's pills? In which episode, which chapter, which line?

>>12260641
>It's mentioned by everyone that he's killed himself
And never contradicted by anyone, unlike everything else that turned out to be false information.
>he has no incentive for him to do so
Well, how about >suicide, by implication alone, shows that he was escaping something
escaping being made into a scapegoat, as you actually say here: >This is how Tokyo is able to put blame on him.
He would be blamed anyways because both Tommy and 34 "were killed." He took the easy way out of that shit.

Geez.

>>12261612
>unlike everything else that turned out to be false information.
Because there's never actually any instances of false information anywhere in Higurashi.

There's also no direct mention of what Irie taking the pills or him thinking about it.

We only hear news of him dying from dying from pills and nothing else.

Jesus, we're going Umineko on this shit with no evidence.

>>12261612
Except it's not like Irie to kill himself. We're talking about a guy who made it personal to find a cure, both for his father's legacy, but also for the citizens of Hinamizawa.
If he knew that Takano was alive; he would've acted. Don't forget he's brave enough to put himsef in danger by trying to infiltrate the hospital again even through he had nothing to gain.

He's not a coward ready to take the easy way out.

>>12261913
>Because there's never actually any instances of false information anywhere in Higurashi.
Nice strawman, aniki.
Read what I said: Everything that turned out to be false information was at one point or another addressed as such, and the real facts exposed.
A "real version" of "Iri killing himself" was never shown, thus it's the truth.
34 didn't even need to kill Iri as work was already done by framing him and leaving him as a scapegoat.

>>12262175
>a guy who made it personal to find a cure
Yes, before everything going to hell, his bosses being killed, and realizing he was going to be the scapegoat for whatever the fuck huge plot was going on behind the scenes.
>He's not a coward ready to take the easy way out
Yeah, just like K1, Shion, and Rena would never doubt their friends. Just like Satoshi was a great brother who would never leave her sister. Oh wait, everybody is flawed in the novel, and Iri is no exception.

I'm not even trying to go Rosatrice here, but damn, people.

>>12262821
>thus it's the truth.
No it isn't, don't make me go Umineko on your ass, it's an interpretation of the truth based on information of the end result; namely that Irie was found dead from drug overdose.
We only learn the final death from other people, namely K1 Rika and Nomura's report to the Prime Minister, concerning his death.

The official reason, given by Okonogi and Nomura was that Irie was the ring leader, which he isn't and committed suicide to escape.
There is no evidence to put Irie in the blame.
Seriously, there is only circumstantial evidence that Irie is left alive when Takano and Tomitake are considered dead. They framed Irie, iirc, with some false evidence but Irie could have babbled or talked. Much simpler to just shut him up.
It also makes it more likely since suicide, by implication, makes it look as though he was running away.

>Everything that turned out to be false information was at one point or another addressed as such, and the real facts exposed.
>A "real version" of "Iri killing himself" was never shown, thus it's the truth.

What bullshit.
Only things that is false information is exposed, true, but things that are left vague and unresolved, such as future events past Rika's death, are left to interpretations.

There is also no false information. Irie is dead. Why he was dead is somewhat irrelevant.
No one is there in Irie's final moments, as such, the best anyone could say is that we don't know why he did it.

Catbox bla bla bla.
He could have killed himself because he felt cornered, or maybe he was killed as part of the plan, we'll never know since no information is given.
All you have as basis is that everything is answered, therefore if Irie's fate is not answered, then the actual answer must be the correct one.

That is completely backward and not based on anything inside the story but rather a meta way of finding an answer based on the narrative.

>>12262821
>Yeah, just like K1, Shion, and Rena would never doubt their friends. Just like Satoshi was a great brother who would never leave her sister. Oh wait, everybody is flawed in the novel, and Iri is no exception.
Talk about stawman yourself man, Irie didn't have the Hinamizawa syndrome.

>>12263571
The Hinamizawa syndrome only grossly magnifies feelings you already have. It doesn't just give you feelings out of nowhere.

Also, Satoshi wouldn't have needed it to think of leaving his sister.

>>12262821
You're so full of shit, dude.

>>12263655
>Satoshi wouldn't have needed it to think of leaving his sister
Also, I just noticed this, but you're again full of shit.

Satoshi NEVER left or had thoughts of leaving his sister.
He was breaking down hard after the murder of his aunt, bought the teddy bear and didn't know what to do or how to hold it in.
It's when Irie was bringing him home in his car that he started to have L5 symthoms while seeing his dead aunt everywhere, so had to be put in a coma and intensive care.

So no, Satoshi never needed to think about leaving his sister, he just didn't know what the fuck to do. Hell, his last thoughts where that he hoped his sister would be good.

>>12264230
Would be good and happy with the bear*

>>12264230
Not the same guy, but wasn't the bear-money meant for him to leave?
Or was it just Satoko's wild delusion?

Holy shit, is this 2007? I'm having fun.

>>12263566
>such as future events past Rika's death
Well, no shit. That's such a contrived example. It's such a particular case past the events the novel focuses on and not part of the mystery at all. Useless example.
>the best anyone could say is that we don't know why he did it.
Yeah, let's ignore how the novel tells you about how he was made into 34's scapegoat and crushed under that confusion and pressure.
>That is completely backward and not based on anything inside the story
The actual reasoning is "The novel never contradicts it, thus I'll think of it as the truth." Read that a couple times. Is it so fucking backward as you say? Jesus.

>>12264230
>Satoshi NEVER left or had thoughts of leaving his sister
Yeah, Matsuribayashi never reveals how a part of Satoshi's L5 symptoms appeared because of the guilt of thinking about leaving her. It also never says anything about him thinking about smashing Satoko's head against a wall. Never. Sure.

>>12264522
The actual lines in pic related.

And I'm not doing this to be conflictive. Just to show how Satoshi wasn't a magical brother who would never think of leaving his sister. K1, Rena, Shion aren't magical friends unable to distrust the people around them.
And in that line, Iri isn't a magical noble doctor who would never succumb to outer factors. 34 is killed, Tommy is killed, he's suspected of embezzlement, bam, he's crushed under all that, he realizes that's the end of the road, and just chooses to take the fucking pills.

Also, did anybody notice the "friend" of Rena's mother, Akihito, has the same name as one of Rosa's boyfriends as mentioned in one of Umineko's TIPS? I wonder if that was significant or just a silly reference for the sake of it.

>>12264551
But that's different for Irie I think. Finding a cure to the hinamizawa was his goal at life. Even if it was probable Tokyo was gonna sue his ass, he should have at least waited to see how the situation was going, he could always commit suicide later if that ended up being real.He would probably have tough that him commiting suicide would probably let the real murderer get away, that's not logical, the timming is just too good to be true.

>>12264551
>Rena, Shion aren't magical friends unable to distrust the people around them
Except that trusting your friend is Higurashi's message, and that's how they won the game.

What you're saying is that "they're freaks doubting each other, therefore Irie killed himself even through there's no real link between these statements".

Sure convinced me with that hot argument, m8.

>>12264522
>Yeah, let's ignore how the novel tells you about how he was made into 34's scapegoat and crushed under that confusion and pressure.
He was used but we don't see his actual confusion and final moments.
All we know is that he has ''what the holy fuck is going on here'' after Tomitake and Takano die. And then we find out he was found dead.

>>12264522
>The actual reasoning is "The novel never contradicts it, thus I'll think of it as the truth." Read that a couple times. Is it so fucking backward as you say? Jesus.
More like ''the novel never mentions otherwise, therefore it's true''. You're assuming it's true on the basis of lack of evidence for what you think Irie did.

>Yeah, Matsuribayashi never reveals how a part of Satoshi's L5 symptoms appeared because of the guilt of thinking about leaving her. It also never says anything about him thinking about smashing Satoko's head against a wall. Never. Sure.
He hated his sister leaning on him but he still kept protecting her over and over.

>>12264551
That image basically just says it all.
He never had conflicted feelings until he was about to buy the bear. Though ''just before'' might be a day before or longer so meh. To me, it just seems as though Satoshi as somewhat confirming what everyone thought he did but never actually did.

>Just to show how Satoshi wasn't a magical brother who would never think of leaving his sister.
He bought the bear. That itself is proof.
Or maybe he thought buying the bear would be enough to save him, meh.

>K1, Rena, Shion aren't magical friends unable to distrust the people around them.
Except when they talk to their friends. Hell, other than when K1 freaks the fuck out, he never suspects or doubt his friends. Even when Shmion is about to fucking torture him to death, he never doubts his friend.
Honestly, it's more like certain scenarios fuck the cast when they would have been perfectly fine. I blame Lambda.

Did R07 ever say anything about reused designs? Are Rika and Takano actually Frederica and Lambdadelta or something like that?

>>12265925
No. Lambda even never was intended to me Takano. She has a Satoko Persona. Bernkastel is a cat and Lambda is still an unknown being it seems. But not Takano in the slightest way.

>>12265977
Except Lambdadelta's name is a Takano reference (34).

>>12265285
>What you're saying is that "they're freaks doubting each other, therefore Irie killed himself even through there's no real link between these statements".
Nice strawman, m8. Sorry you can't comprehend arguments with more than a couple parallel statements. I know it must be difficult to live like that.

>>12265418
>More like ''the novel never mentions otherwise, therefore it's true''.
What then, do you want me to go with "things the novel never mentions are true" logic? Okay then, 34 was a transvestite (there's actually a funny omake page about this in the manga; the Yamainu make a mistake and get a male body, so 34 ends up having been a tranny) and Tommy had a family in Osaka.

>That image basically just says it all.
Yeah dude, not my fault if whoever translated that doesn't know how to read.
買う直前まで思っていた != 買う直前思った
He says he was hesitating right until he bought it. I don't even need to say this, at various points in the novel Satoshi's dilemma was exposed.

>>12266267
Part 2.

>He bought the bear. That itself is proof.
Buying the bear retroactively proves he never hesitated? That's not how logic works, man.

>Except when they talk to their friends.
Of course, that's Higurashi's main theme.
Who did Iri have to talk to about his problems? Oh, wait, I think I know. Oh, yes, I remember now. Nobody! He was absolutely alone. What happens in Higurashi when you're alone?

But well, okay, let's just say we can't 100% know if he took the pills or was made to take them. Though if he's such a dedicated doctor/researcher as you say I don't know why would he let other people kill him without resisting. Delicious' buddies said there was no fight.

>I blame Lambda.
Oh the shitstorm we'll get to see if she shows up in When They Cry In Space.

>>12266281
You're officially a moron. Congratulations.

>>12266677
Nice argument, dood.

>>12267171
I'm lowering myself to your level.
>Nice strawman, m8
>What then, do you want me to go with "things the novel never mentions are true" logic? Okay then, 34 was a transvestite (there's actually a funny omake page about this in the manga; the Yamainu make a mistake and get a male body, so 34 ends up having been a tranny) and Tommy had a family in Osaka.
>not my fault if whoever translated that doesn't know how to read.
>That's not how logic works, man.
>Who did Iri have to talk to about his problems? Oh, wait, I think I know. Oh, yes, I remember now. Nobody!

Yep, I'm lowering myself to your level : strawmanning, "ur source arent reliable but mine are", not taking the debate seriously, making fun of the opponing party.

What, you think I'm still taking you seriously after all that crap you spouted?

>>12267554
Wow. Are you seriously mad or just pulling my leg, a.k.a. ``trolling"?
>>not taking the debate seriously
>>making fun of the opponing party
Where?
>>Nice strawman, m8
Can't help it if you attack arguments I never held, dood.
>>That's not how logic works, man.
Well I can't help it if it isn't. I can't just go "Oh, you sound like a nice person, let's have logic work the way you want it to."
How does Satoshi finally settling with buying the bear retroactively prove he never thought about not doing it? How is that logical in any way, shape, or form?
>>not my fault if whoever translated that doesn't know how to read.
Is it? Is it my fault the translator didn't know the difference between 思った and 思っていた? How is it my fault?

I'll just choose to believe you're a cunning troll.

/jp/ - Armchair Logicians and Fallacy Rhetoric

>>12267596
>I'll just choose to believe you're a cunning troll.
How typical from a troll to call the other party a troll.

>>12267733
Did you think that post through all the way?

>>12267784
Epic troll mate. 9gag must be proud of you.

fact : higurashi is a piece of shit
umineko is the only good thing ryukishi007 made

>>12268069
I personally really disliked the Question Arcs of Higurashi.

>>12268069
>>12269630
pls don't bully higurashi ;_;

>>12268069
>umineko
>good

fact: rika is cute
OPINION: i like her

>>12269635
If you're too stupid to like it, I can't do anything for you.

>>12226993
>New Higurashi VN, get hype.
Higurashi was shit though, and the anime was even worse.

>>12268069
I'm genuinely disgusted anyone here likes it. The only acceptable positive feeling towards the game or series is wanting to touch Rika in places.

>>12269686
>>12269689
why do you guys show up? ;_;

>>12269691
I'm sorry but objectivity is essential to the future of the site and the board, think of it as vaccine shots. Hurtful but necessary and perhaps crucial.

>>12269648
Umineko level logic. Ryuukishi would be proud.

>>12269695
but vaccine gives people autism

>>12269701
Yeah well, you'll only be able to appreciate genuine masterpieces line Umineko if you have autism first so it works out for you either way.

>>12269701
You're not allowed to post on this site if you do not have autism.

>>12269702
>line
Looks like I need a booster shot.

>>12269703
No, only natural autists allowed, cyber/vaccine-induced autists not allowed.

>>12269708
It's a metaphorical vaccine.

>>12269710
Metaphor is still a no no.

>>12269701
You're a fucking moron.

>>12270056
no bully! ;_;

>>12270060
That's no bullying, that's the TRUTH.

Fact : if you disliked Umineko, it's because you're a retard.
Discussing that point makes you a retard.

>>12272454
QFT

>>12272454
Truth spoke.

>>12272454
Yup