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Looks generic.
Meh.

Higurashi, by its very nature, sucks and always will suck.

Can we still use the old sprites on steam?
If not, then it's shit.

We should have the choice.

>>12242378
people would make a patch about it anyway.

>>12242360
What happened to their hands?

>>12242360
I am part of the minority (it seems) that vastly preferred the original sprites. However, this will be good for spreading it to a wider audience. And, I'm especially glad that we'll still be able to get the new translation with the old sprites.

>>12242378
>Can we still use the old sprites on steam?
>If not, then it's shit.

>We should have the choice.

I wouldn't use Steam anyways. I have the hard copy version.

>The old version with the original sprites will continue to be sold on our website as well, and all current and future owners of this version will also receive the updated translation at no additional cost.
Meh, carry on then.

Boxing hands sprites best sprites.

>>12242360
mion should have bigger boobs and a more mature face, ps2 sprites were better but if this makes manga gamer tons of money to translate better and more games, why not. manga gamer could be our only hope now that it has steam on its side.

>>12242435
Bigger ? They didn't even look as big in the original, wait before we see Shion's Angel morte suit.

it's not the ps2 sprites?

>>12242442
ps2 are licensed by whoever published the ps2 version.

>>12242435
I agree.
This is one of the biggest problems I had with the anime.
Mion needs to have huge chest beefers. They are an important juxtaposition to her tomboy-ness.

Unfeminine girls with huge knockers are a justice to the world.

>>12242360
Rena is moe!

>>12242393
They are aparently normal, now.

The eyes are way too low. Mion's chest also looks a little too emphasised. I liked the PS2 version where it was quite obviously larger than this but not as in your face

>>12242400
>However, this will be good for spreading it to a wider audience
Yes, things have only gotten better due to getting a wider audience! Just look at video games, 4chan, hipsters, Koreans and democracy!

>>12242746
>If something is mainstream I can't like it.
This is just going to increase the ammount of shit that's localized because it's more profitable, quit your whining.

>>12242378
Just buy the hardcopy version and wait for the new translation to come out.

>>12242547
I agree. The eyes are particularly disturbing in a bad way.

That's nice and all, but what about the music? Will the patch for their current release work for this one too?

>new sprites
I spewed so much my head exploded because it was overloaded with the amount of puke coming up, but it didn't stop there, the puke kept coming out of my neck, then my upper body exploded, the puke kept coming, out of my lower half, which exploded too, then it was my two legs, just standing there, puke all over the walls, then the legs exploded too, finally the walls floor ceiling stained with puke.

>>12243105
How are you typing then?

>>12243311
It's his fetish.

>>12243311
>>12243754
I thought she was joking.

>>12242887
Who are you quoting?

>>12242367
Everything Ryuukishi has ever done has been shit and I don't know why it's so popular in the West.

>>12243783
Oh ho, and what would you prefer? Kantai Collection? Touhou?

>>12243840
stay buttblasted nerd

i can literally feel your ravaged anus

>>12242378
The sprites will be toggle-able in game for the steam release, and if you want ps2 art instead that won't be hard to swap in.

>>12243844
Hipster weebs at their finest. They just like to copy what the hipsters on futaba say.

>>12243866
[citation needed]

>>12244673
lel

People were complaining about how Mion's suit was weirdly placed on her boobs (and they're right), so tried to modify that just to if it could be improved a bit.

>>12245396

>>12242360
Looks like they have down syndrome. Wonder what Rena's eyes will look like.
>>12243866
Are you guys redoing the backgrounds as well or just the sprites, Doddles?

>>12245321
Oh, I'm a big dummy. I didn't realise he was an actual big deal.

>>12245399

The old sprites were kinda weird, but do they really annoy people that much?

>>12246596
Normies can't into unique artstyle.

>>12246609
What are you talking about? Normies love "unique" art. Makes them feel superior.

Am i really the only one who likes the new sprites?

Okay that's one of the shittiest aspects of Higurashi fixed. Now they've just got to fix the story and characters

>>12246596
>>12246609
I liked them, though they were incredibly amateur, almost like out of deviantart

>>12242360
>replaced Rykishi007's specific model by Generic Sprite #1435
If it helps newcomer, why not? As long as we can turn it off, I'm okay.

>>12246620
That's trash.
>>12246649
Ryu07, like ZUN arts, are an acquired taste.

They have a specific styles, and not deriatives trash like common DeviantArt

>>12246642
They are okay IMO, but nothing tops the original boxing hands.

>>12247000
You just don't understand it. It's a very unique piece of art that truly captures exactly what Pollock had for breakfast.

>>12246620
Meh, this shit looks almost like a camouflaged pattern, except it's a fucking mess.

I guess when you make art, you shouldn't make it obvious that you just throw random colors together.

>>12247024
Shut up philistine, it's "the expression of the intern nature of man and his tendency to slowly destroy himself".
3deep5you

>>12246609
>Normies
I've seen a lot of the complaints from anime elitists who start throwing a hissy fit if something doesn't look like everything else they watch.

/jp/ is going to be absolutely flooded with casual pieces of shit, and all the old memes with be given the /v/ treatment...

>>12246620
I like it. It makes me think of fall in the city.

>>12246609
in 100 years, Higurashi art will be considered a masterpiece.

>>12247849
That lion's got better hands than anyone in Higurashi.

>>12244492
Are you implying they can read Japanese?

>implying i'm avoiding the use of memearrows

>>12247828
So it'll be just like the last 4 years?

>>12243866
It's ridiculous that people were shitstorming about this until Doddler posted when the information was already out there. /jp/ confirmed for being unable to read.

>>12247952
More like unwilling to read. After Doddler posted they just had no excuse to bitch about it anymore.

>>12243866
So I don't care.

I don't mind the sprites, they look generic, but not that different form PS2 ones anyway.
I wish they were closer to anime with that huge hair and all, but they're not bad.

Why didn't they just use the damn ps2 sprites?

>>12248536
GEE, I WONDER WHY SOMETHING SO OBVIOUS DIDN'T HAPPEN?

>>12248536
They didn't want to bother making a collaboration with Alchemist, just hiring a drawer only for the sprites was faster, exactly like for the musics.

>>12242435
Ýeah cant wait for mangagamer to get a monopoly going back by steam. Cant wait for VNs with all sexual content related to anyone under 21 altered / removed.

It'll be epic win.

>>12248852

As opposed to mangagamer's competitors which already do that?

>>12248844
>exactly like for the musics.
They're adding new music too?

I just want to know where are the ham-hands, my sexual fantasies are not fully fulfilled if they feature this joke of a scum-level hentai grade.

>>12249331
I don't know about that, but since they're going to bother adding in the original sprites, I assume they'll have the same music.
I hope

>no more big ass hands

>>12242400 >>12242949
>I wouldn't use Steam anyways. I have the hard copy version.
>Just buy the hardcopy version and wait for the new translation to come out.
There has been no confirmation as to whether owners of the hardcopy releases will be able to benefit from the new translation. That would be quite unlikely, imo.

>>12245405
>Are you guys redoing the backgrounds as well or just the sprites, Doddles?
Kouryuu: "The backgrounds are the same, but we’ll be redoing all the sprites."
http://blog.mangagamer.org/2014/07/03/announcements-from-anime-expo-2014/

>>12251921
Who quot /a/niki?

>>12246997
>As long as we can turn it off, I'm okay.
You can only use the old sprites if you buy the game outside of Steam.

>>12248536
Licensing.

>>12251980
>There has been no confirmation as to whether owners of the hardcopy releases will be able to benefit from the new translation. That would be quite unlikely, imo.
MG actually confirmed that owners of the hardcopy would get an update.

>>12252660
See >>12243866:
>The sprites will be toggle-able in game for the steam release

Well, that's miles better than the original sprites while not really worse than the PS3 ones.

>>12252715
Watch out, this guy's going all out!

Okay, so will Satoko will be naked or in a towel this time around?

>>12242360
>New Sprites
Interesting.... I wonder what Rena's "USODA" face will look like...

I posted high res pictures of the DS character sprites on /a/ back when it was first announced. Did that French guy manage to do anything with them?

At least the sprites don't look like 10. yr. old deviantart shit anymore.

I like Ryukishi but the guy can't draw to save his life. I know people make excuses and pretend his artstyle is good because it's "unique and amazing" but no. Just because his art looked amateur-ish doesn't make it good.

Fatter characters with big hands =/= better

Same thing with Umineko. The old art was cringe fucking worthy. Doesn't fit the mood, theme and style of the story at all. And visual novels aren't known for amazing art anyway. I'm just glad people put effort into the new sprites and made them look presentable. Aside from nostalgia and 4chan hipster cred, liking the old sprites for their look is really pretentious.

Also, Mion is still the pure maiden. Mion did the thing

>>12257610
yes he actually HDfied them
>>12257725
excuse me but higanbana looks great

>>12252660
The old sprites look like my little brother's doodles when he was in elementary school.

>>12257732

Oh shit, did he really? Do you have any pics or links?

>>12252660

No, one of the staff members confirmed that you can switch inbetween them in the steam game.

>>12257792
https://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/12210930/ somewhere in this thread cbf to find it

>>12242360
Still going to buy it regardless.

Hopefully Rika will look good since she's probably the only reason I'm buying this new version. She has to look composed, moe and calm. The original art works and the sprites fail fucking hard on that.
I'm also somewhat curious about Rena's creepy eyes and her YOU'RE LYING face.

>>12242378
Forgot who said it, but on twitter, they said ''we'll give people the opportunity to switch back to the original version since people like that''.
They seem to know what they're doing.

Also, getting new art actually seems like a good idea and good business move.
People will less likely buy a VN simply for a translation but will buy them to see how the new art looks like.
So MangaGamer might actually be rolling in cash if this works out considering Higurashi is a popular VN.

>>12245482

>>12257842

They need to be bigger.

>>12258028
Ok.

>>12258060

Aw yea

>>12257610
Did I post this comparison at some point ? Was the one who did it too.
Just tried a bit Takano. Got some results but wasn't satisfied, so simply abandonned it. I've been only working on my patch besides that (just finished the whole second arc), may try with the others, like Mion and Kei.
On the other hand, it's pretty much sure I can make every new expressions for Rena (with longer hairs too), Mion, Rika and Satoko, will just need some work.

>>12258931
And that's it, I'm finished with Rika's Kizuna expressions. Still need to save them for each costumes tough.
Also, remade the smirk expression so that it would fit more the original's.

>>12259211
"You call THAT a penis ?"

>>12259211
Ah, also ended up trying to improve the costume a bit using the full body reference from the other time :

>>12259272
damn it, wrong version.

Btw, somehow managed to lose mion's and Satoko's full sprite ref', mind posting them again ?

You mean there are people who haven't played Higurashi yet?

>>12259306
2hamfisted4me

Tried with Kei, but since I didn't have any new expression I was quite limited.
I tought about using it for the character choice tought :

>>12259306
I dropped it during the second episode. I can't even say why I lost interest, I quite liked the first one.

soon ~

>>12259453
I'm a big fan of Ryukishi07, but IMHO, Higurashi doesn't get really good until the 3rd episode in. I feel like that's when he started hitting his stride.

>>12260059
> big fan
> Anime

>>12260115
I mean the 3rd episode of the VN, Curse Killing.

Wasn't Frenchman looking for that guidebook for the fourth Kizuna game with the sprite sheets and event CGs?

You can get it on AmiAmi for $65 or so. It's the cheapest price I've seen it at: http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=TVG-NDS-2260&page=top%2Fsearch%2Flist%3Fs_keywords%3Dhigurashi+kizuna%24pagemax%3D20%24getcnt%3D0%24pagecnt%3D1

>>12259286

Also, would it be possible for you to trace Takano's body? She looks way better, since her skirt doesn't look like a flat board in it.

>>12261386

Actually, that sounds too greedy. Sorry, disregard that.

>>12261386
worked on it a bit but it didn't look good, would still need some work;

>>12261365
Still too high, and that doesn't even include the shipping price.

>>12261390
>>12261386
Thanks for those. Satoko is almost the same, I'll see if I can still modify a bunch of stuff. As for Mion, I'll at least try to get her new chest.

Also, Baratomaya from When they translate began to work on making an english version. He even want to add the voices, but for this wait & see.

>>12261416

I might buy a copy for myself off of ebay for the limited edition. If that happens, I'll try and send the booklet and everything to you.

>>12261436
Well, would be pretty awesome to get some scans of it. I'm mostly interested in getting good references for the sprites, if not the cgs and bgs.
As we can see in this sample, there are even the full cgs, and since the book is in A4, the size should be far enough.

Aaaaand I think I managed to do it for Mion. Could only keep the torso to make it available for both poses tough.
The face will come later, will use other references I've got like Rika.

>>12261483

And an ingame test.

>>12261480

I'll definitely keep my eye out for it. I noticed they even got Rena's hatchet poses in some ebay photos.

>>12261483
>>12261486
>>12261494

Finally, they have been set free.

>>12261508
Rena got no less than 2 action pose with her hatchet.

And here is also Shion !

>>12261576
ingame test

What was so wrong with their original hands? I think they looked normal.

>>12261599

Really?

>>12261486
Kizuna casual expression done.

>>12261620

The eyes really do look a million times better in Kizuna.

I'm playing through Meakashi right now, and I have to ask: is that one sad piano song supposed to play every five seconds? I used the skip function to see, and it kept going all the way to the very end. It's literally the ONLY song used after Satoko dies. I also made sure to patch the music.

Is this a mangagamer thing, or was the original sound novel like this, too?

>>12262065
It gets way better in the Answer arcs.

>>12262345
but meakashi-hen is an answer arc

>>12242378
Translator has already said that old sprites will be usable. I'm pretty sure the Japanese voices and original music can be used too.

>>12262440
>I'm pretty sure the Japanese voices and original music
Probably not going to happen since the voices are licensed by Alchemist and the original music of the question arcs is nowhere to be found since it was some free music Ryu found on the internet.

Also regarding the music, do you guys think Ryu is going to use new music or at least the music from Kai for the question arcs in Higurashi Hou instead of the old one?

>>12262466
>since it was some free music

Only at first, they replaced it with "real" songs when the whole question arc pack came out (since the serie was at this point popular). It's possible to get the rights for every musics, but that would mean asking for every person who worked on them.

Mangagamer is just too lazy to do that. Hell, the french translator/editor was alone and still managed to get every musics.

>>12262345
>>12262355

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the "Confession" rendition of "You" is supposed to play when Shion dies at the end, right? It's just replaced with the generic sad piano song.

>>12242360
Why didn't thy just use the PS2 sprites
Geez

>>12261599
Strongbad is one of those characters where you can't help but read posts in his voice.

>>12262786
Congratulations. You've mastered elementary pattern recognition.

>>12262737
Because they were too lazy to make a collaboration with Alchemist.

What are the chances of Alchemist doing an adaptation of Hou on the Vita/PS3/Whatever?

What are the chances of a company like Xseed licensing it?

>>12265150
Absolutely zero.

Hou is basically Ryukishi putting everything Higurashi he made into a single package as an attempt to mostly skip this year as compensation.

It would be unnecessary to add Alchemist into the mix for no reason. The only time Alchemist actually comes to do art is when there's a new WtC (hence why Higanbana and Rose Guns Days weren't touched or approached)

Also, fun to note.

PS2-> Higurashi
PS3 -> Umineko
PS4 -> Space WtC.

We'll have an Alchemist adaptation in possible 5-6 years.

I wonder if DEEN will actually make another anime of WtC after the shit fiasco of Umineko which never happened.

>>12246596
The old art-style is trash and I rarely ever get bothered by art-style. It's just that bad.

>>12265514
Philistine.

>>12265514
You sound like a crying girl.

>>12265514
Higurashi looks a bit weird but he definitely improved in Umineko and onward.

I'm sure by the time we get to Space WtC, it'll actually look pretty good.

MG just posted this to their twitter.

>>12268880
Those bangs are fucking ugly

>>12268880
she's not badly drawn or anything, but this new art looks like something out of any generic moege...
though i like the original art best, i don't dislike alchemist's new sprites, since they still have character to them.

>>12268925
>though i like the original art best, i don't dislike alchemist's new sprites, since they still have character to them.
How fucking deluded do you need to be to like that piece of shit 10 year olds could do better?

>>12268880
Can they like tell the artist not to make the hair so tall? Goddamn. They can still fix this shit.

>>12268930
i think his art is cute. i wouldn't ever say it's particularly well drawn, but it's distinctive and doesn't detract from the mood of the game for me, and i understand how people can dislike it.
however, if someone were to say that they like these new sprites better than the alchemist sprites, i'd really be questioning their taste.

I... I'm not conviced at all by Rika's sprite. The hairs and pose just don't fit. And what with this skirt being SUPER short ?


Otherwise, I continued a bit working on Kizuna's sprites : maanged to improve Rena's and Mion's casul ouftit, mainly the torso : Can't change much, would look weird.
Worked on the expressions they had in the heroine menu (for Satoko too) to set it early, here is how it looks.

>>12268930
Stockholm syndrome and ``my childhood"

>>12269044

>Higurashi VNs

>Childhood

Unless you could read moon and had terrible parents, I doubt it.

>>12268880
Arghhh my eyes, my poor Rika.

At least the :< looks cute.

>>12246644
>>12252715
>>12257725
>>12257742
>>12259309
>>12265514
>not liking the original sprites

>>12275576
More like endless blindness in your case.