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This game recently got a translation and can be found here http://www.nutaku.net/games/lord-of-valkyrie/play/

This is the japanese wiki in case you are interested in see what we are losing at the moment
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/

and probably people will want to talk about aegis war since it's coming soon, probably in this monday.

>> No.12893020

>>12892980
I sure hope this delicious R card posted in the OP isn't scrapped down from the english version.

>> No.12893032

>>12893020
Not loli

>> No.12893074 [DELETED] 

*Mouth Waters at the sexy angel*

>> No.12893076

>>12892980
This is that super p2w game right?

>> No.12893094

>>12893076
Yes.

>> No.12893154

I've been wasting my gold lottery on Cards since I'm playing solely for the h-scenes.

I had 2 SR and 1 R as my cards. In later stages in the quest, I've been getting the ' Monster has escaped because the damage was not sufficient '

So I decided to give the item lottery a chance, used 3 gold lottery on it and got powerful items.

I hit for 7000 and I haven't gotten the ' Monster has escaped because damage was not sufficient '.

Item lottery is worth a gold lottery

>> No.12893226

>>12893076
It's like every DMM game

You can pay to get recovery to avoid waiting or pay to get shit to spin the lottery of higher rarity cards/stuff.

It's very p2w, but not super due to lottery. Super would be if you could straight up pay x for "insert overpowered shit here", instead of pay x to have a good chance to get "insert overpowered shit here"

>> No.12893290

>>12893020
This was on their twitter that's why I posted it, probably they are bringing this too

>> No.12893323
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12893323

Yes.

>> No.12893338

>>12893323
Why.

>> No.12893352

>>12893338
I am the most adorable hero.

>> No.12893362
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>>12893352
And I'm actually a girl that owns a magical unicorn

>> No.12893384

>>12893362
I don't see anyone else who's more adoreabler. So clearly I am the winner.

>> No.12893385

when the hell do i get to fuk navi, she's literally the only girl i'm interested in

>> No.12893387

Should probably add in the next op that for each comrade you have, you get +1 to each stat.

For that matter, need more friends. Name is Ithere.

>> No.12893397

I'm still full on comrades.

Level 30+ or bust.

Meanwhile, I need to grind my Pure Girl Marins and Quiet Knight Athenas this weekend.

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>>12893352
>Not playing as a cute 2d girl that has a penis and can fuck her Valkyrie girls

Why play

>> No.12893447

>>12893433
>Not understanding the true honor in giant hair

>> No.12893464

>>12893447
It comes with true douchness too

>> No.12893481
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>>12893464
What are you going to do about it?

>> No.12893508

Do not all of the Valkyre have h scenes? I didn't get one when I upgraded Elle

>> No.12893512

>>12893508
That's odd. She has one alright.

>> No.12893517

>>12893508
Has to be ++.

I actually got an error when I first upgraded her. If you go to the album (top-right when in town) and search for her card, you should be able to load her h-scene there.

>> No.12893531

>>12893508
You have to get their final form.

If you evolve once they go to +. Gotta evolve a second time to ++.

>> No.12893535

>>12893517
Thanks

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>>12893385
>i get to fuk navi

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12893777

>>12893385
>when the hell do i get to fuk navi

If only you knew...

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12893787

>just got the Cecil scene

>> No.12893799

>>12893787
At what stage in the quest? Right now I'm at Purgatory Boundary.

>> No.12893806

>>12893032
I dunno if that is even the case going by this https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/552857949102567424

It's still to be seen if loli cards are infact gone or not.

>> No.12893811

>>12893385
You poor bastard...

>> No.12893829

>>12893806
Doesn't make any sense. Quite Knight Athena is quite the loli yet they brought her.

>> No.12893834

>>12893799
Heroes cemetery. Haven't been advancing all that much sadly.

>> No.12893838

>>12893829
Yeah I don't know what happened and why some cards are taking longer to get over here. So long as we get them all I could care less.

>> No.12893844

So do we have any idea when Aegis is supposed to be released? It looks really fun.

>> No.12893850 [DELETED] 

>The law enacted 18 U.S.C. § 1466A, which criminalizes material that has "a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture or painting" that "depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct and is obscene" or "depicts an image that is, or appears to be, of a minor engaging in ... sexual intercourse ... and lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value". By its own terms, the law does not make all simulated child pornography illegal, only that found to be obscene or lacking in serious value.

What makes Lord of Valkyre's lolis have serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value?

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>>12893850
Name a single person prosecuted under that law. No Hadley doesn't count, he plea bargained when he should have challenged the law. The previous version was already shot down by the US Supreme court for violation of 1st Amendment rights.

Mangagamer has already proven that nobody is going to prosecute them for selling loli in the US.

>> No.12893861

Jeez why is damage so unreliable?

I hit a glimmer for 10k and then hit it for 1,600.

>> No.12893866 [DELETED] 

>>12893856
Hadley also had real child porn which is totally different from lolis.

Legal lolis might have weird cultural impacts though. It seems like they are getting more and more common every day.

>> No.12893887

>>12893861
Could have been a crit.

>> No.12893975

>>12893829
To be fair, Athena might have gotten a pass because her h-scene is a blowjob scene.

But then we have Marin who's got an even loli-er bod and voice, so fuck if I know.

>> No.12894042

>>12893975
Blowjob is still considered a sexual act.

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>>12893975
>her h-scene is a blowjob scene
Yaaaay. There went the surprise.

>> No.12894069

>>12894053
I had the same reaction as you. Spoiler alert it atleast.

>> No.12894096

Instead of actually playing the game are the scenes on youtube or nicovideo or something?

>> No.12894116

>>12894096
I doubt it.

>> No.12894120

>>12894096
>on youtube

muri muri anon

>> No.12894146

>>12894096
Please don't tell me you're actually this retarded Anon.

>> No.12894391

dammit i wanted to make this thread
missed it i guess, thanks anon

>> No.12894395

>>12894391
Does it matter who makes it?

>> No.12894405
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12894405

What's with those eyes?

>> No.12894430

>>12894395
nah it doesn't, it's just that I already had an OP text written a few days ago

>> No.12894434

>>12894430
Thinking too far ahead.

>> No.12894437

>>12894434
i love this game

>> No.12894455

>>12894437
But it's just a mobile game with the occasional titty picture...

>> No.12894466

You gotta fucking love failing gear enhance at a 90% success chance.

>> No.12894522

>>12894437
Me too anon

>> No.12894529

>>12894466
Be grateful, it happened to me at 96%.

>> No.12894938

>>12894466
>>12894529
I've had three 99% failures in a row in the past hour.

>> No.12894993
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Just a reminder to go to

items>>tradingpost>>exchange loging proof to get some lottery gold.

>> No.12895004

>>12894938
that is actually impressive.

>> No.12895125

>>12894993
Where do I get these continuous login proof thingies? I did login several days in a row but I got none.

>> No.12895129

>>12895125
gotta just keep logging in every day.

>> No.12895154

>>12895125
You get some every five consecutive days.

>> No.12895262

>>12895125
>>12895154
you get 10 on the first 5/10/15 days, 20 on the 20/25 days, 30 on the 30th day, then 30 again every 5 days
i think that's how it goes

>> No.12895288

>>12895262
If that is the case it makes me wonder how they plan to make money off this game, that is more then enough lotto golds to get everything you will ever need and then some.

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12895304

>continuous log in proof for me today
I wonder if I should get a card or a new item.

>> No.12895316

>>12895304
Items, always items.

Card lotto is a complete and utter waste.

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>>12895316
Hot damn. This is something very nice. Thanks anon.

>> No.12895327

>>12895324
You now have the best weapon (currently) in the game, congrats.

>> No.12895719

>>12895262
I just logged in my 15th day today and I got 20.

>> No.12895808

>>12895719
thanks, then it's 10 on 5/10, 20 on 15/20, and 30 on 25/30

>> No.12896240

Does fighting other peoples mega bosses get me anything?

>> No.12896248

>>12896240
You get a little something for helping.

>> No.12896267

>>12896240
You get some stuff depending on the boss.

Weaker ones will give you a C, some a bit stronger ones will give you a C or an item, and the dragons/glimmers can give you items or UCs.

Could be other stuff too, but this is just what I've noticed so far.

>> No.12896288

>>12896267
Dragons and Glimmers also give [R]s or [C]s. No items.

>> No.12896327

>>12896288
I thought I got the elemental armor from dragons? Or were those wyverns?

>> No.12896341

>>12896240
If you deal damage to the boss and the boss is subsequently defeated (remember, only the boss's 'owner' can inflict the finishing blow), then you will receive something in your gift box.
However, if the boss is not defeated, you'll get nothing.
I'm not sure whether you need to deal a certain amount of damage to qualify though (if you do, then it doesn't seem to be much), or whether you can qualify even if your attack(s) dealt zero damage.

>> No.12896360

>>12896341
It's mostly 5-10%. Roughly 16k for dragons, 19k for glimmers, etc.

You gotta do 42k on Silver Dragons though. Bastards.

>> No.12896378

>>12896341
>>12896360

>http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=633696&postcount=718

>> No.12896386

>>12896327
Elemental Weapon/Shield/Armor are from birds.

I still have no idea where to get fire equipments now that birds are out of my spawn range.

>> No.12896393

Just wanna ask, what does the Ward Off button do? Does it extend the boss timer?

>> No.12896444

>>12896360
>>12896378
Ah, thanks for the info!

>>12896393
That allows you to use the Smelly Bag item (if you have any). I'm not entirely sure what that does though… Kinda like an instant defeat item, maybe?

>> No.12896445

>>12896393
I guess you send the boss away

>> No.12896459

>>12896445
Shouldn't you receive something from it, though? Otherwise I don't see why you couldn't just wait for the timer to expire and the boss to go away anyway. Unless you're hoping for a different boss to show up, I guess.

>> No.12896463

>>12896444
I'm the one who gave you that link, but it's probably better to do a bit more damage than they suggest. I just narrowly passed the margin for a boss battle (~500 over), and didn't get anything.

>> No.12896547

>>12896459
Smelly Bags just send the boss away instantly without giving you anything, so you can go on quests again and find another boss to fight

>> No.12896657

Who else is going to try Aegis when it comes out next week?

>> No.12896765

bscones, plz kill your Idoneus, kthx.

>>12896657
Just you, Anon. Yes, I will.

>> No.12896775

>>12896657
I played Aegis a few months ago. I'll give it a shot in English but I won't be too happy when there's no loli there either.

>> No.12896789

>>12896775
loli is what we need in this world.

>> No.12896876

I sure hope this game contain atleast one oppai loli.

>> No.12896928

>>12896775
The DEVs posted a pic of Dina in one of their Aegis posts. I wouldn't rule out lolis just yet.

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>>12896876
Lord of Walkure or Aegis? Aegis has pic related off the top of my head.

>> No.12897524

>all lolis removed
Shit game.

>> No.12897807

i already got a staff of askepilos or whatever; what sorts of defensive items can I expect out of the item lottery, and when should I switch to the card lottery?

>> No.12897824

>>12897807
In the defensive category, you can either get a dual-wield sword, or, of course, magical defense and physical defense items. As for card lottery, Switch to that when every gear piece you have is ridiculously OP

>> No.12897832

>>12897524
i agree

>> No.12897847

>>12897824
i mean, what counts as ridiculously op in the defense category? Also, do i get rings and necklaces from the item lottery, or do those come from somewhere else

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>>12897807
>>12897847
There's this thing which I wasn't all that thrilled I got at first but as I've been getting more armor I've realized it's actually really nice.

Wouldn't really consider it OP though. Definitely doesn't win any matches single handedly.

>> No.12897871

>>12897847
Though I have not yet gotten any OP armor, I have the dual wield sword. You will know it is overpowered when its art design is extremely decorative and the armor is glowing and giving off sparks. Rings and necklaces haven't been added in yet, since this is only the alpha version of this game. I would suggest getting OP of both physical and magical equipment, which will take quite awhile.

SR and R cards come with Boss fights. And to compete in those higher level boss fights, you need high level gear. Think of it this way. One set of OP gear can get you unlimited rares and Super Rare cards, while Card lottery only gets one. Which would you choose?

>> No.12897893

>>12897847
For mega bosses, defensive items are apparently pretty much all about elemental attributes. I've seen people with the best weapon in game who literally just walk around with different sets of unupgraded level 1 elemental gear. Apparently even 1 more atk would be better than 1000 defense.

For PvP, defensive stats seem to be more useful, but I'm not sure if there even are defensive items strong enough to be relevant against a really good weapon. I never really looked at how much defense the best armor provides. Also, I'm not sure if there's even a point in doing pvp if you already have the best possible weapon and don't need to upgrade anything anymore.

I heard that in the Japanese version, there are occasional events where you can special cards (including the SSR rarity tier cards) from the lottery during the event. So once you are capped in terms of weapon, it might be a good idea to just save lottery gold for when we get an event.

>> No.12897949

What would be the best 3 for mega bosses?

The first three have the most base damage currently but Teresa is hitting glimmers for 3000-4000 when she does her magic so I'm wondering if going all rare would increase damage.

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>>12897949
It would help if I included this.

>> No.12898087

>>12897952
Against stronger bosses with good defenses, which are the bosses where your setup matters most, skill damage is usually the way to go. Against dragons for example, none of your valks will deal any meaningful damage with normal attacks, so skill damage becomes your main source of damage.

When it comes to picking which one to choose as they are right now, you should also factor in elemental attributes, but when it comes to levelling, I would probably concentrate on the rares since they become more meaningful in the long run.

>> No.12898115

>>12897952
Yeah, I stopped leveling the UC's beyond a couple easy levels for some of the stronger ones once I got Teresa.

also I just realized that the second stat is skill damage. For some reason I thought that was the cards defense stat. Guess I glanced over it and my brain auto completed it as defense, since that'd be what is usual. This definitely gives an entirely new look to each card.

>> No.12898157

I just got the Tiger-dragon sword and the dragon slaughterer with gold after continuous login.

I think the game is trying to hint at something here. Perhaps that I now actually do damage.

>> No.12898228

Are there any implications for losing in Match? Or should I just burn down my Force even though I rarely have a chance of winning?

>> No.12898262

>>12898228
You get weaker items for losing than winning. That's about it aside from the lost force.

You can get some pretty decent items from it and higher level upgrade materials. Though your best shot at good items will be from bosses and the occasional free gold item lottery.

>> No.12898334

>>12898262
Yeah I won a few times and was placed into the next rank. However everyone in this rank is much more powerful obviously. But cheers, I'll focus on the quests and lottery.

>> No.12899912

I have just recently started, and I don't know what comrades do, but, if anybody would like to add me. My name is melo.

>> No.12899986

>>12899912
Comrades help you fight bosses later, which you will need to get new UC, R, and SR cards.

>> No.12900003

>>12899986
Right. That makes sense. The difficulty with the bosses spikes rather quickly. I was killing them all quite easily, and then I got a giant centipede and he ran away several times. Is that normal?

>> No.12900060

>>12899912
>>12900003
each comrade also gives you a +1 boost to all your knight stats (charisma, stamina, force) as long as you have them added, so get 30 comrades as fast as you can

>> No.12900123

>>12900060
Oh that is great. I will try thank you. Also is there is certain way I should be dividing my stats? I have been putting more in stamina overall, but I don't know. Sorry for the new questions..

>> No.12900405

>>12900003
Yes, that is completely normal. Actually, when you get to start fighting dragons and the elemental lords, you'll be glad you have lots of high level comrades. Also, you can fight your comrades' bosses for about a third of the force that your comrades have to fight their own for, so let your comrades take down your boss while you help out your comrades.

>> No.12900412

I just got my second Quiet Knight Athena! Woot!

>> No.12900519

>>12900123
yeah, stamina is in my opinion the most important stat to increase, but distribute your points among the other two once in a while as well

>> No.12900554

>>12900519
Stamina is the most important until you get to about 100 maximum... then you distribute between Force and Stamina 3:2... 3 to stamina and 2 to force.

>> No.12900597

>>12900519
>>12900554
Thank you very much. I will continue to place most of my points into stamina then.

>> No.12900610

is rank 9 the top pvp rank? I just won a match when i had "clears to rank-up:0" and I didn't get a rank-up battle

>> No.12900613

>>12900610
No clue, I'm rank 6, but nice job! =D

>> No.12900633

Does anyone know the mechanics behind elemental strengths and weaknesses? Right now I'm trying to decide if equipping a dragon scale (30 fire, 50 magic attack) is going to increase or decrease my damage against a water glimmer.

>> No.12900648

>>12900633
Water is weak to earth in this game, not fire. You'd be weakening yourself.

>> No.12900655

>>12900648
I mean, i know water is strong agianst fire, but does that mean that they have extra defense if I have some fire element, or does it just mean that if I have earth element I do more damage?

>> No.12900657

>>12900633
I don't like using elemental weapons if I can help it, but that's since I have a +7500 attack weapon. You would have a disadvantage using the flame weapon though, since water is triumphant over flame.

Add Me! AeroJ777

>> No.12900660

>>12900633
It should increase damage. +50 is too small though. Fire doesn't deal less damage to water.

>> No.12900665

>>12900655
It wouldn't gain more defense, you would just deal less damage with your hero. So, either use a strong vanilla weapon, or an earth weapon.

>> No.12900668

>>12900657
I have the asklepios staff, the fire element thing is an offhand "defensive" item that happens to add to magic attack and fire element

sorry, my comrade list is already full! I don't like to clear out my lower-level comrades because it feels mean, but if some of them are still at like lvl 15 after a couple weeks maybe I'll make space for you :3

>> No.12900680

>>12900665
do you know what the formula for damage is though? For instance, I have a no-element staff with over 16k magic attack, and a fire element staff with about 2k magic attack; will the latter do more damage against a wind element monster?

>> No.12900685

Also, I just realized that even though I have a 50 earth and a 30 fire item equipped, my only element is 50 earth. Does your highest element always determine your total character's element, or is the other one playing into damage calculations without actually being displayed?

>> No.12900695

Another case I'm wondering about: is 16760 atk and no element better or worse than 16760 atk and 50 strong element?

>> No.12900696

>>12900668
NP at all, I only get rid of low level characters they aren't active either, same with high level characters.

>>12900680
The latter will not do more damage.

>>12900685
Yes, the higher will determine your hero element. Mine right now is Wind.

>> No.12900704

>>12900633
>>12900660
Shit, I forgot to ask, why not use a Diamond Bracelet or something? That thing's everywhere and it's +30% Earth

>>12900685
One with the highest value is your element. On the case of equal values, Earth>Water>Fire>Wind

>> No.12900707

>>12900704
I enhanced away all of my diamond bracelets soooooo... do you remember if that comes from pvp or quests? If quests, I might have to go back for one

>> No.12900711

>>12900707
nvm i found it, hero cemetary stage 2

>> No.12900721

>>12900704
Are you using your lottery golds for the equipment lottery, or the Card Lottery? USE THEM ON THE EQUIPMENT LOTTERY. Trust me, you won't regret it =P

>> No.12901038

if I evolve a valk that's like level 20 or something but not max level, is that basically the same as evolving a lvl 1 valk? I'm not sure what the 5%/10% thing refers to.

>> No.12901053

>>12901038
I think it's the % of power you keep from the card. All I know for sure is you will end up with a stronger evolution if both cards are leveled.

>> No.12901087

>>12901038
It's 5% of the stats of that card that gets added onto the evolution. In other words say the max level of a card is 50. If you evolve at level 49, you get 5% of lvl 49's stats. But if you add a single level, you get 10% of a lvl 50's stats. If you want maxed stats, you have to fully level both cards.

>> No.12901179

>>12900680
According to the few tests I ran on that, having a value of x in the enemy's weakness translates into x% more raw damage on your attack. So if you have 6k atk power and you attack an enemy with 3k defense, you deal 6k-3k=3k damage. If you have 50 in the enemy's elemental weakness however, you instead deal 6k*1.5-3k=9k-3k=6k.

Reduced damage against the enemy element seems to work the opposite way, meaning you have to divide 6k/1.5-3k=4k-3k=1k. Note that it doesn't seem to reduce your damage by x%, but rather to the amount which, if increased by x%, goes back to 100% (which for 50 element means you deal about 66.6% damage).

At least this seemed the most plausible formula to explain the very limited data I got.

>> No.12901201

>>12901179
Also note that the way it seems to work on raw damage, rather than effective damage, makes elemental attribute much more important to get right. As you can see in the example, increasing my raw damage by only 50% makes me deal twice the actual damage, thanks to the enemy defense. Likewise, reducing it by only 33% makes me actually only deal 1/3 of the damage I normally deal. This effect gets more and more important the more defense an enemy has.

>> No.12901203

>>12901179
What. I hit Wind Glimmers for 7k with +80 Earth, and 7k is my No-Element damage to Glimmers. If what you said is true, I should be hitting for 1.4k

>> No.12901207

if my equips are all like +15 to +20, should I just be selling the gear I get or is it worth it to keep buffing them up?

>> No.12901211

What items should I use for water and wind element on left hand, and for fire element on body? I'm at the colorful crystal cave but I basically enhanced away most of the elemental stuff I got earlier on, not thinking it would be useful later

>> No.12901222

>>12901207
Only sell anything when you are running really low on gil.

>> No.12901253

>>12901211
Crystal Bracelet (Water) from quest treasures.
Heavenly Scroll (Wind) from Rank 8 pvp Victory.
Alternatives are elemental shields from elemental birds.

Fire body is non-existent. The only fire armor is from Fire Birds that increases fire by 30. Lottery might have some fire but I dunno.

>> No.12901268

>>12901203
I was concentrating mostly on finding damage increase since I always switch into the strong element anyway, so it's very possible that I just got a few bad balance rolls when I tested whether there's a reduction when using earth on earth. Unfortunately, I don't have access to strong elemental gear, which would make the test more stable.

Also, the expected value of your attack against glimmers with my formula would've been around 2.7k, not 1.4k, but either way, if you do hit for 7k noncrit with 80 element, I guess the part about reduction was wrong.

>> No.12901319

>>12901253
thanks. Hopefully heavenly scrolls pop up in later quests, since I don't want to have to pay to lower my pvp rank

>> No.12901829

is it worth getting the 10% bonus for UC cards? I just got the lamia and don't know if should take the time for all the card leveling. seem like maybe reserve for R card?

>> No.12901902

>>12901829
Save it for R cards, since they are extremely easy to find once you start taking down dragons.

Just bring your UC+'s up to level 10-20ish for cheap stats to use up the cards you pick up.

>> No.12901997

>>12900610
yes

>> No.12902273

Is there any advantage to using up Gila to combine/evolve Cs before using them as combination material for higher-ranked cards? As opposed to just combining them in as they were originally.

>> No.12902342

Not sure where OP got the idea that Aegis is coming out Monday, Twitter/Facebook/Posts on forums by Devs all say Thursday at the earliest.

>> No.12902351

>>12902273
Each level is 1 xp, same element is 1 xp, and rarity is 1 xp.

At a small loss of xp you can combine different (but same ele) commons to level 2-3 to save gold when you hit level 30+ combinations.

I'm too lazy and just farm the later stages for level 6 commons.

>> No.12902355

remove loli?
ban this shit shit

>> No.12902897

>>12902355
Someone specifically asked about Camus (JP version loli game mascot) and the response was that they'd bring her over, but the H scene art would be slightly modified

>> No.12903169
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12903169

I swear on every fuck. I will someday get you, Silver Dragon. Those titties will be mine.

>> No.12903379

>>12902897
So they'll give her giant tits?
Those retards are the worst cancer I've seen in a while. They're even pretending they change content because 'muh laws'.

>> No.12904034

Is there any real point to maxing ANY card aside from a (SR) if you only get 10% of your previous stats?.. Seems like an awful lot of work for just 10%.

>> No.12904192

>>12904034
Maybe for a really good R if you have the copies, and having horrific luck with SRs.

>> No.12904464

>>12904192
What's the maximum level per rarity?

>> No.12904473

>>12904034
A maxed out UC++ is about the same power as a maxed out regular R. I'll still probably max out a few of my UCs just because.

I'd max out a few R's though, some of them can go a long way. If you're impatient, you can forgo leveling base cards, but max out the first evolution cards. You don't lose as much stats that way.

>>12904464
Common = 30
UC = 40
R = 45
SR = 50
SSR = 60

>> No.12904533

>>12895327
Anyone have a list of the best items in games? I'm spending my lottery gold on items and I want to know which items are the best.

>> No.12904557
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12904557

>>12903169
Feel free to add me, I spend all my force on bro's mega bosses if I'm not battling a mega boss myself.

>> No.12904579

>>12904473
>SSR

What? there's a a type of cards that's stronger and rarer than SR?

>> No.12904589

>>12904557
Alrighty then. Sent. I'm Clockwork btw.

>> No.12904611

>>12904557
Darn, I added you, but already sent out 30 support requests earlier. Need help taking down this Pandeon.

>> No.12904616

>>12904579
Yes, but we don't have any yet, to my knowledge.

>> No.12904617

>>12904589
Accepted

>> No.12904622

>>12904617
Many thanks

>> No.12904809
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12904809

I'm wondering if we'll get to see Navi in this outfit?

>> No.12905235

>>12904473
>I'd max out a few R's though, some of them can go a long way. If you're impatient, you can forgo leveling base cards, but max out the first evolution cards. You don't lose as much stats that way.

Okay thank you. I will try doing that. Perhaps maybe when I find R cards I super like.

Also if any people want to add me today my name is melo. i am not too good at helping with the mega bosses though because of poor gear. very sorry.

>> No.12906130

Is there a way to battle megabosses, without using "force"? I just encountered a boss which I cannot fight since I haven't put any points in my "force" yet and I'm at 10/10.

>> No.12906220

>>12906130
No. Put points into force.

>> No.12906223

>>12906130
whoa, still at 10/10? what level are you?

>> No.12906370

>>12906223
LVL 18, just been playing for maybe 6 hours or so starting today.
I figured it'd be best to put points into stamina at first.

>> No.12906421

>>12906370
Force is important too. Since killing Mega Bosses awards you UC, R or SR Valkyrie cards or items.

>> No.12906548

>>12904473

Dammit, I read somewhere Rares were capped at 60. Had I realised it was that low, I'd have kept at it. Oh well, good thing I have more copies of Athena.

Is nobody raising the best commons to swing for 3k Atk (at Lv 16 after evo) before focussing on Valkyries?

>> No.12906564

>>12906421
Sure, but it's easier to grind this way while losing as little time as possible.

Well, I'm propably not goint to keep playing this for long regardless. I mainly just started to play this to see what you people were talking about. This game is below my standards.

It's pay to win (or pay not to wait), it's a simple casual browser game, it's behind the jap version (which is gaijin blocked), it might be missing some loli content (is there a sure word about this yet?), it has almost no story, the h-scenes are short and lack detail since the jap version propably had pixelation, it has yaoi...

And I also don't particularly enjoy the comrade system. If some of those comrades were atleast cute shy girls in real life and you could talk to them, I might change my opinion.

>> No.12906938
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12906938

>>12904809
Yes, yes we will.

>> No.12906994

I'd hold off on investing real money in this until we're sure of just how serious nutaku is on localizing this.

So far literally all we've got is the explore mode, bosses and the arena. We're still missing lots of storyline stuff, investigations and several other things. There are no loli cards in game yet either and we don't know if they're gonna allow loli or not.

Basically, at the moment it's buyer beware.

>>12894096
I dunno where you can find the full scenes but all the art can be found on sad panda.

>> No.12907038

>>12894096
>>12906994
Sad Panda only has the mosaic'd artwork, as far as I can tell, though uncensored artwork (albeit limited to those available in Nutaku's version) can be found here:
http://m0e.uk/nsfw_valkyrie/

Of course, you won't be able to read the accompanying text or listen to the voice acting without playing the game, but neither of those are that great anyway.

>> No.12907101 [DELETED] 

>>12906564
>>12906994
https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/554766891193864192

>> No.12907462
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>>12906548
>Is nobody raising the best commons to swing for 3k Atk (at Lv 16 after evo) before focussing on Valkyries?
I did back when I had no [R]s. I still have my Aion. The others became food.

>> No.12907481

>>12906548
The only common I keep around is Nine Tailed Fox, specifically because I'm disappointed by the lack of a scene for it.

>> No.12907499

Is the stamina cost and obtainable exp always equal in the champaign?

>> No.12907508

>>12907499
Nope. There's some where the stamina cost is slightly higher than the exp gained.

>> No.12907514

>>12907499
Outside of a few rare cases, yes.

I think I've seen maybe 2 where cost and exp are different and I'm up to zone 22.

>> No.12907741

>>12907499
The last areas of Forest of Morning Fog, Sacred Mountain of Drifting Snow, and Ancient Underwater Heritage Site cost more stamina than exp to run, but they have a rare chance of dropping UCs. Elle drops in the forest, Cecil in the mountain, and I think Pham drops in the underwater place. Haven't progressed further than that, but I'm sure there are other areas like those.

>> No.12907786

>>12907741
Small correction: Pham isn't in the game. Drops Mage of Explosion Lamia instead.

>> No.12907806

>>12907786
Figured. I haven't spared the stamina to try getting that to drop yet.

Eh, I've got enough Lamias as it is. I could use more Mobile Girl Deltas though.

>> No.12907878

Are they really removing loli?

I mean I don't care much about loli but fuck people who want to censor it for stupid fucking reasons. Perfectly ok for them to force their shitty morals on everyone else yet the moment it's some other stupid issue like faggots it's all "HOW DARE YOU!!!"

>> No.12908606

so, when you think they are going to release aegis war? I think till friday is a good bet since they just posted one more pic from aegis on twitter and facebook

>> No.12909083

>>12906938
>Evolved Navi

What happens if you sold or combined the original Navi you had at the start of the game?

>> No.12909094

>>12907806
Mobile Girl Delta h-scene was so cash.

>> No.12909099

>>12909083
It'll probably just give you the card anyway.

>> No.12909124

>>12909099
is it confirmed that the R Navi is included in the english version?

>> No.12909132

>>12908606
there forum post here says maybe 15th of jan. the nutaku dev has posted in the thread before. I don't know how correct.

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26560&page=51

mega bosses are starting to get super hard for me. i am doing no damage. i hope i find some good things soon.

>> No.12909139

>>12909124
Their twitter says they intend on bringing everything over.

How true that is remains to be seen.

>> No.12909164
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12909164

Your friendly anonymous guy from here:
>>/jp/thread/S12820295#p12892773
Bringing you tips for you people without gold cash. After playing for a while, level 32 right now, here's a couple of things you should take into account:

1)Stats:
You are free to choose what to raise, after all it's your character. What I recommend to raise is as follow:
Charisma 16-17:
You'll have enough cost for a UC++ elle, UC++ tsukasa, and a rare.
Force 26-27:
At level 32 you'll get 5 runs at rank 7, more on that later.
Stamina, just keep raising it:
After all as you have seen you'll have good enough stats in the other ones, but remember as you level up things could change, so this is just a personal recommendation.

2)Cards value:
There is a slim chance you'll get a rare card with the normal lottery tickets you are given, took me a while. But at level 32 I have a fire flare. My 3 cards are UC++ elle, UC++ tsukasa and fire flare. So it goes like this:
Fire flare, MUCH better than UC++ tsukasa.
Tsukasa, better than UC++ elle.
You also get one rukia at stage 9. Hopefully there's more of them later so you can evolve rukia.

3)Items:
Quest items are a joke, rank 7 items are not even comparable to the 2 items I got from the free two gold lottery tries. But rank 6 weapons, that you get AFTER A CLEAR, are good enough if you didn't get a weapon from the free gold lottery tries, I guess.

4)Ranks:
Your goal here would be to get to rank 7, where you'll proceed to get DESTROYED after taking into account all the tips I have given you. Simply because you'll encounter people with WTFISTHAT items, and... if you have been reading what I have been saying, you'll know how they got them. There is some people who don't even use cards, just items, and yes, I lose to them as hard. Rank 7 items give good amounts of money, though, so now you know.

And that's it for now, if I happen to know some new things after playing I'll be sure to let you people without gold cash know. See you later.

>> No.12909200

>>12909164
I'd recommend just logging in once every 5 days and getting your continuous login proof to buy lottery gold.

Bothering with matches for the sake of getting good items is a waste of force and time.

Also, I'd recommend using lottery gold on items. Since using them on Cards is pretty useless if you have bad items.

I used my first 4 lottery gold on cards, got 2 SR and R Cards, my items were pretty low, and I kept getting the ' Damage was not sufficient, monster has escaped ' during quests. Which was pretty annoying.

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>>12909200
My sentiments, although a little bit of a correction on the ranked runs, rank 7 items that you get just for doing a run give good amounts of money, more than say, rank 6 items.

>> No.12909355

>>12909164
You're prioritizing PvP matches, which is why you're still using UCs. Just add friends, spam poke Bosses, and you'll be drowning in the basic elemental Rares very quickly. All of which are stronger than your UCs.

If you're doing Matches then yes, most items are terrible for you. On the other hand, since I haven't gotten any good weapons from lottery, I've been switching between the elemental blades depending on the boss, and I've been doing okay with that. So MY suggestion to new players is to increase your Charisma to a decent amount (~15 is okay, and lets you run a team of Rs, so just add more if you have better cards), and then use the rest between stamina and force. If you balance them, you also don't have to log in as often. The Quest equipment isn't the best, but it's good enough to let you poke Bosses and hope RNG gives you better stuff. Otherwise, it's hoping the item lotto gives you good stuff.

>> No.12909425

>>12909355
Reading back on it,
>>If you balance them, you also don't have to log in as often.
was just a random thought, and I've personally been increasing stamina:force at about 3:1.

>> No.12909625
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>>12909355
LMAO this nigga thinks I am putting UC++ on a pedestal, let me get this straight, fool. You have read my previous post with the image of the ONE RARE I GOT FROM THE LOTTERY, yet you tried to slide in I am actually SCREAMING UC++ FOR THE WIN. Then after that you go to another low AND GIVE SHIT ADVICE, people need cards fool, that's why the game is not stupid like you and tries to give players elles from all sides. Now before they wait a long while FOR A CHANCE AT A RARE like I did they need UC++s... ya'll non gold cashers should take note of elle, tsukasa and rukia, they are the guaranteed cards that the game gives ya. Which brings me to my next point:

>and you'll be drowning in the basic elemental Rares very quickly.
Someone give this guy the herp derp award. Gayga bosses DO NOT MAKE Rs, and for that matter, SRs and SSRs RAIN FROM THE SKY. This guy is bonkers, I have only gotten common cards from gayga bosses, not to mention this guy says RARES RAIN FROM THE SKY FROM GAYGAS, LAUGHING MY FUCKING ASS OFF REALLY OUT LOUD.

>> No.12909653

>>12909625
I don't think he was trying to bully you. Just pointing out different view. We all need to get a long and have fun together.

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>>12909653
Then let's take it easy, I thought he was belittling me by saying "All of which are stronger than your UCs.". Got all worked up.

>> No.12909664

>>12909625
Yup. Rares rain from the skies. Finding a Dragon and killing it is a guaranteed Rare of the corresponding element. Poking an elemental dragon is a chance of that rare, with people in past threads estimating the drop rate anywhere between 5-20%.
And while SRs don't rain from the skies, poking higher ranked bosses DO give you a chance at SR drops.

>people need cards fool, that's why the game is not stupid like you and tries to give players elles from all sides
Which is why I'm saying using your force on matches is a terrible idea. They'll give you shit equipment, which you also mentioned. Which is why I'm saying you should ignore matches on focus on bosses.

I'm not "bullying" you, I'm just pointing out what I disagree with in your post. Others are free to take whatever advice they believe sounds more reasonable.

On an unrelated note, you get more UCs than Elle, Tsukasa and Rukia.

>> No.12909671

>>12909625
This seems oddly familiar from a previous thread. Is this entire thing an act where you give advice with a few questionable points and then lash out at anyone who gives a different advice back? If it's not staged to go that way every time, you might want to work a little on your temper.

>> No.12909676

>>12909425

Until I hit 108 Stamina (with 30 friends), I've been going approximately 1:1. Afterwards, force got much more attention. That way I get more out of a force refill whenever it happens.

>> No.12909680

do you have to level before combination?

>> No.12909692

>>12909676
I tried doing that, but probably just lack enough active friends. I tend to sit on extra force and spend it on matches, which didn't feel very productive.

>>12909680
I recall somebody saying that leveling up cards before combining saves gila, but you lose out on some exp.

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>>12909164
>Force 26-27:
That's really low. I have 57 force with 30 friends at level 36, and I'm going to increase it to 60 next level. Bosses are your main source of good cards and the more force you have the more bosses you can get the assist on or burst it down if the timer gets really low.

>>12909625
Rares do drop like candy though. You're honestly retarded. Dragons are guarenteed to drop a rare of their element if you are the one who got it and you have a good chance if you are a helper. Idoneus can drop a SR for both the one who got him and the helpers too.

Just look at this. Every rare but the last one on this list I got from dragons and glimmers. The last one I got from a point lottery.

>> No.12909717

>>12909625

Find a (friend with a) dragon, poke it, either get a rare outright or get the best Common for that element (possible exception for Water). I've gotten more mileage out of C+ Alchemist, Witch, Ishtar and 9-tail Fox than UC++. It's what let me fumble into PvP rank 9 with no item lottery weapons or armour.

Having said that, once you get Rares you do need to focus on them - spike damage is kinda essential to successfully poking later bosses.

>>12909664

Spending excess force on losing PvP is valid for genreating Gila. It's easy to farm Ch 1 quests for upgrade fodder but the price to feed gets high.

>> No.12909718
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>>12909664
SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, this nigga was not being nice. THIS NIGGA ALSO DIDN'T READ WHAT I WROTE, he has not noticed I am level 32 and instead thinks I am fighting ayy lmao dragons already. Now read carefully what he is writing:

>Poking an elemental dragon is a -> chance <- of that rare.

But remember this fagit said this also:

>and you'll be drowning in the basic elemental Rares very quickly.

This GUY IS HIGH AS A KITE. I just noticed he is thinking not only I am at the point of fighting ayy lmao dragons, but EVERY SINGLE FUCKING NEWBIE THAT DOES NOT SPEND GOLD KASHING.

I also see you are still trying to be even more retarded and are saying now that you get more UCs than the game GUARANTEED gives you, go ahead and say from where. If you say GAYGA bosses I am just gonna laugh out loud again.

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>>12909693
Something that might be useful to know is that your gift box holds up to 50 cards, for what I assume is indefinitely. So if you're planning to hold onto cards but don't need to use them right away, keep them in the gift box to free up space.

>> No.12909740

>>12909718
I read that you're level 32. If you had spent those levels poking bosses instead of doing PvP then yes, you would definitely have more than 1 rare.

The poster 2 above you is barely higher than you, and seems to be doing a lot better in that regard.

You also don't need to solo the dragon. You need to be able to do 1 damage to it. One. Everything else your comrades can do.

You get more UCs as you advance through the storyline. Go up some levels and you'll find out yourself.

>> No.12909755
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12909755

>>12909693
OH MY FUCKING GOD, I specifically said I was level 32 you fucking dipshit, bust most importantly, there's people who doesn't have over 9000 16 COST CARDS AT THAT LEVEL YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT. This is the problem I try to avoid but it seems some people can't help being retarded.

I now see you are another cocksucker who thinks everyone and their mother spends gold and are at the level of fighting dragons as quickly as you dropped your wallet on this game. I'll be back gonna play some other games, can't fucking end up spending the whole day in here.

>> No.12909756

>>12909718

You don't need gold, you just need friends. Advance in the story far enough and you can make your own dragons, then hope your friends do all the damage for you (not hard if you find active friends).

Before Dragons with their guaranteed Rares, Evil Eyes and Wyverns drop guaranteed UCs if you spawned them. Again, friends and story progression is all you need.

>> No.12909765

What are silver niggers weak to? I've got 3 maxed rares and a 10k atk weapon and I barely scratch them.

>> No.12909775

>>12909755

And we're repeatedly saying: if you've never seen a Rare outside the Normal Lottery by Lv 32, you're doing something wrong.

>>12909765

Nothing. They don't even have good loot so friends don't want to help out either.

>> No.12909791

>>12909755
I've been assisting on dragons since I was like level 25 and you can meet them on the sacred mountain, you should be more than high enough level to see dragons.

You seriously have some brain problems.

>> No.12909810

sorry for new question again.
but lot of you are talking about "poking" bosses. is this just helping out comrades? how much damage do I have to do to be able for item? the couple of people who send bosses are much higher level than me and I don't do much.

also if anybody need more friends my user name is melo, but i might not be able to help with bosses too much at the moment since only been playing for two days. sorry.

>> No.12909816

>>12909810
As long as you spend the login bonuses on the item lottery you should be fine. When you are around 8k attack with weapon you can get credit for dragons in 1 attack usually. 2 for safety.

>> No.12909831

>>12909810
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=633696&postcount=718

Something important here is the elemental weaknesses. For dragons If I just wear whatever I'll do something like 30k, but if I wear the element they are weak against I'll be doing 50k+

You want to keep the best of each element for each slot. The basic will give 30 for each slot, and I've encountered some armor that gives 50. If you get a really strong weapon though you can ignore the element of the weapon. You don't need to upgrade any of the gear but weapon for mega bosses.

>> No.12909846

>>12909816
>>12909831
thanks both of you. i did not know much of element. i have a few pieces that i will hold on to even if they are very good and hopefully get some good lottery pieces when i have the bonus.

>> No.12910226

So when is the best time to stop leveling stamina? I've currently got 170 total at 50 and feel like I need more force, have 105 force.

>> No.12910250

>>12910226
Stopped leveling my stamina when It reached 142.
Try to reach your force to atleast 120 so you can hit mega bosses that require 40 force 3 times when you have full force bar.

>> No.12910255

>>12910250
No reason to hit mega bosses more then twice though. Hit it once request help and wait for it to get to 1hp, killing blow.

>> No.12910287
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12910287

I finally got the bastard.

>> No.12910289

>>12910287
I hope I get the assist bonus

>> No.12910298

>>12910289
Let us pray

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12910301

Rather direct isn't she?

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>>12910287
What the hell is this.

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>>12910367
They think I need more Gila. Great.

>> No.12910373

>>12910367
copper bars, silver bars and gold bars are only there so you can sell them, they're worth 10k 20k and 50k gila respectively

>> No.12910386

I'm currently in the process of trying to make +20 gold bars, just to show off my immense swag levels.

A complete waste but why not.

>> No.12910390

>>12910367
>>12910371
Welcome to Idoneus.

You got lucky with silver. All I've ever gotten was copper.

>> No.12910398

>>12910390
Eh silver isn't that hard to get, I get 1 silver for every 3-4 copper.

>> No.12910469

>>12910386
I like you

>> No.12910541

>>12909132
Nice, I didn't even know they used this thread

>> No.12911090

>>12910287

>> No.12911092

>>12911090
accidentally pressed enter
I got copper bars from that battle.

>> No.12911144
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12911144

Yep. This is exactly what I wanted. More Gila. Oh no, you keep those cards I could use for enhancing. I'll be fine.

>> No.12911183

what's with japan and valkyries everywhere?

>> No.12911543

Are people really maxing their SRs before evolving? I mean, I just got my first SR, and you have to get 4 of them to level 50 to get a ++ with maxed stats. That seems like an absurd amount of work.

>> No.12911547

>>12911543
Actually you have to get 6 of them to 50, my bad, it's even worse.

>> No.12911840

>>12911543
You don't really lose anything, since you can still use your SRs as you slowly level them. It's more a question of "Why not max them?"

>> No.12911854

>>12911543
If you get a SR you might as well min max it, Plus I mean you can use it while it levels and most SRs will very quickly surpass R cards.

It's a waste to not max it.

>> No.12912063

>>12911840
>>12911854
I could spend time maxing them, but my deck consists of LV30 R++ cards, and it'll take a loooooong time for the SR to surpass them.

>> No.12912068

>>12912063
Eh, I dunno SR will probably surpass R++ by SR+, SR cards get fairly strong very fast.

>> No.12912112

what's the best way to maximize exp gain from C cards? Just feed them at lvl 1 to the target monster or should I feed some to the C then that C to the SR?

>> No.12912122

>>12912112
I just feed them at level 1, it's not worth the effort to gain a few extra XP. Later on you find most commons at level 4-9 so it stops being a worry.

>> No.12912941

I need comrades, post your name so I can add everyone

>> No.12912991

>>12912941
melo

but i am not too good with help with bosses. still new.

>> No.12913178

>>12912941
Clockwork

>> No.12913231

Should I evolve UC card at max level?
I just started, and only have 1 R.

>> No.12913237

>>12913231
It's not overly important to max UC's, just evo them as soon as you can for the power boost to hold you over until you get more rares. R's will outclass even UC++'s quite fast.

>> No.12913323

>>12913231
Wouldn't really recommend it.

Lamia is the only UC I might have thought of maxing before evolve since she was almost as strong as a ++ Elle while base, but the rares you get from dragons are much better due to how damage works.

The base rares you get from dragons have a lot lower attack, but significantly higher skill damage, and skills will be doing most of your damage against things with high defense.

>> No.12913431

>>12912941
Teleo

>> No.12913644

>>12912941
Solva

>> No.12913736
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12913736

So are there any better physical weapons in the game or is this the best we can get currently?

>> No.12913773
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12913773

What should I use?

>> No.12913779

>>12913773
Use the one with more damage.

>> No.12913793

>>12913779
One increases physical, the other increases magical. Which should I prefer?

>> No.12913795

>>12913793
It's up to personal preference really, Physical does better in matches due to the staggering amount of people in robes to get super high magic damage neglecting phys def.

Disregarding matches matches pick whatever you want, it all works.

>> No.12913799

>>12913795
I don't really do matches, more considered about Mega Bosses.

>> No.12913801

>>12913793
Physical/Magical doesn't matter against mega-bosses.

In PVP, the people who are tough as fuck usually wears Panacea Robe, which increases mdef by a ton. Therefore, Physical is the way to go.

>> No.12913803

>>12913799
in that case it does not matter in the slightest. Pick whichever one looks cooler to you.

>> No.12913902

i got Dragon Slaughter +15 and Neverrage +15 from my first login bonus lottery. oh i have gone from doing barely 10k to the mega bosses to the 40ks.

>> No.12913915

>>12913902
Yeah getting your first good lotto weapon skyrockets your damage.

>> No.12914006
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12914006

This is just too tough.

>> No.12914018

>>12914006
It still has roughly 1m HP left too. You'd need other people to attack it ~50 times (doing 20k damage each time) in 45 mins if we're gonna take it down...

>> No.12914034

>>12914018
Bah, forget about it. Don't waste your force.

>> No.12914141

>>12914006
i beat one today thanks to this one guy using his entire force, got a much needed SR

>> No.12914179
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12914179

2 attacks that cost 50 force each and I only took his hp to 99%

Pretty brutal.

>> No.12914181

>>12914006
jeez, you're getting all the massive bosses now. Black dragon and now a neo dreadnought.

>> No.12914184

>>12914179
He's very weak to wind.

10k attack with 80 wind and I just hit him for almost 39k. Seems far more doable than the black dragon.

>> No.12914203

>>12914184
Oh right, nice, I first thought the game tried to troll me because I read the wiki as if his element was wind, not his weakness. That's why I first thought I needed Fire, which is the element I have not a single gearpiece for.

But with wind, I can actually around 15-20k to the guy.

>> No.12914249

>>12914179
Would've preferred you got the other one. I want a Flame Athlete Hana.

240 lottery miles to go... Speaking of which, what's everyone using for their miles? Assuming they don't add more cards to the trading post for the next patch... whenever the hell said patch is, anyway.

>> No.12914288

http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=635798&postcount=821

All chars confirmed in, but lolis are getting boob jobs.

Which still makes zero sense considering Pure Girl Marin, but eh, I guess I'll take what we can get. At least they get an A for effort.

>> No.12914300

>>12914249
I'd probably use the lottery miles reactively, based on which particular card I need. By the time I have 400 points, I don't think there's much of a point left in getting a single unevolved SR card, so it's probably best used to complement what you currently have already.

Or maybe, if we can buy event cards with miles as well, I would just save it until we get an event. Anyone here who knows how the Japanese version handles this?

>> No.12914308

>>12914300
I've already got ten Pure Girl Marins and seven Quiet Knight Athenas, so I think I'm good on the 200-point cards. Another Teresa would be nice, but I'll hold off on her.

You can only exchange each card once anyway, it seems.

>> No.12914326

>>12914249
I might get Yukina or Sandra which I already have, to evolve them. Dunno if it'll be worth it.

>> No.12914463
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12914463

Hell yes. 15th day of continuous log in. Hope I get something nice like last time.

>> No.12914471

>>12914463
And I just noticed that that gif is broken. Damn it.

>> No.12914483

>>12914288
Oh no. I barely see Earth Dragons now. How am I supposed to get her when she comes out? fffffff

>> No.12914561

>>12914179
16% left. Hope you're on if/when we get it down low enough.

>> No.12914596

>>12914561
seems like it won't get down enough.

man, so close. If only I had a force jewel left over or was close to leveling.

>> No.12914600

>>12914596
Do you have enough force to hit it once?

>> No.12914601

>>12914600
yes. I have a vial

>> No.12914604

>>12914601
On it.

>> No.12914613

>>12914604
Ugh. Those were bad rounds.

Yeah, it's lost.

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>>12914613

>> No.12914616
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>>12914613
Well, we tried.

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>>12914613
>>12914616
Thank you guys

>> No.12914627

Goodbye, dreadnought....

Somewhere out there, in a not so different parallel universe, we barely made it...

>> No.12914628
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>>12914613
Hit 16 force just barely before it hit 0 and hit battle in hopes that it might make the difference

3%.... if I just had anything that would give me another attack left it might've happened.

>> No.12915567

>>12914288
ugh, cancer.

>> No.12915664

>>12914628
unlikely whoa. Next time you'll get him.

>> No.12916111

>copper bars everywhere

I'm starting to feel your suffering.

>> No.12916141

>>12912941
darkshadow18

>> No.12916201

So on the various cards, is skill better than attack for R or what?

>> No.12916213

Have you guys been feeding your old UC's into any rares you get?

>> No.12916215

>>12916201
Skills will be your valks only source of damage reach black dragons and up, normal attacks always hit for 0.

>>12916213
Yeah there is no reason to keep UCs once you get to rares. R's are far better.

>> No.12916221

That feel when a Neo Dreadnought sets at 1hp for nearly an hour and still times out because the guy who found it never kills it...God dammit.

>> No.12916226

>>12916215
What about Navi? Do we ever get others to evolve her with?

>> No.12916231

>>12916226
No, you don't get a scene with her nor any other copies to evolve her with. Stuff happens later once you progress the story.

>> No.12916240

>>12916221
how do this happen? if you started the fight and call comrades you think you be around to finish it. unless emergency of course.

>> No.12916246

>>12916213
I keep around the UCs I like. I still have Navi, Elle, Lamia, Delta, etc.

>> No.12916249

>>12916246
I did that too, until I found the Album thing.

>> No.12916327

>>12916240
Might have gotten sidetracked or as you said something came up, still annoying.

>> No.12916338

>>12916246
No reason to keep them, you can just view their scene and pictures in the album. Just wastes card slots.

>> No.12916367

Whats the point of soloing or having one Valkyrie with you in pvp rank 9 and above? Is it even possible to win matches because so far I have demolished these people

>> No.12916370

>>12916367
Good weapons can carry you, taking out all valks but one let's your character swing his weapon more which can easily win you the fight.

it's a cheap tactic but it works well with really good weapons.

>> No.12916392

>>12916370
I was doing that before, but then met strong people. but, i had question. does your character just stop attacking if you only have weapon for awhile? after three swings my character would not attack anymore and i got hit like 6 times.

>> No.12916399

>>12916392
Yeah 3 hits is the max. You are banking on the fact you will be able to kill them in 3 hits or lose.

The Asklepois staff can do this very easily.

>> No.12916405

>>12916370
But these guys I have seen soloing are also on very low lvls (usually in the low to mid 30s). I know powerful equipment can sway the battle but these guys still think this will get them far. Unless you have the top 3 equipment, I shouldnt be seeing it anymore

>> No.12916412

>>12916399
ah that is fair. thank you. it doesn't feel the same battling without my girls even though some battles were over very quickly.

>> No.12916456

>>12914288
Oppai loli treatment? Sign me in.

>> No.12916798
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12916798

Let's beat it this time!

>> No.12916816

>>12916798
man i want you as a comrade

>> No.12916820

>>12916798
Pretty good timing, I'll be leveling up in one hour and can burn all of my force on it again.

>> No.12916830

>>12916798
whats your name? I could use more active people with endgame mega bosses.

>> No.12916841

>>12916830
It's Solva

>> No.12916842

>>12916798
I wish I could stay and assist longer, but I'll have to go in about 5 mins...

At least I was able to level up and spend a full force bar on him.

>> No.12916865
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>>12916798
Welp, I did what I could to help. Fucking thick skinned motherfucker.

>> No.12916869

>>12916865
He's getting wrecked this time, god damn. down to 10% in less than an hour.

>> No.12916877

>>12916869
I have no idea why I'm hitting him so hard

>> No.12916880

>>12916877
That you Solva?

>> No.12916881

>>12916877
He's very weak to wind, if you got a good wind weapon or equipment that'd be why.

I hit him for almost 40k with a 10k weapon and 80 wind.

>> No.12916890
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12916890

>>12916880
yep
>>12916881
Oh I see now lol

>> No.12916909

So, what did you guys get?

>> No.12916920

>>12916909
waiting on pepper to kill it

>> No.12916934

>>12916920
Ah. Sorry.

>> No.12916960

>>12916798
Shit, you guys got it to 1 HP without me. Bah.

>> No.12916975

Didn't land a weapon in the item lottery, again. Time to wait another 5 days.

Though it's nice to see ordinary players without item lottery weapons in PvP rank 9 now.

>> No.12917006
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12917006

Thank you guys.

I got Prisoner of War Sandra which I already have, should I max her or evolve her? maxing her would be a pain.

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12917008

this makes me want to stop playing

>> No.12917016
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>>12917008
At least you get more Gila.

>> No.12917017
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12917017

>>12917006
Apparently he can give silver bars.

that's uh. a thing. apparently that ulmf doesn't even know because it's not listed there

>> No.12917020

>>12917008
It seems we're brothers in suffering.

>> No.12917031
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12917031

>>12917006
>>12917008
Oh, Okay. I got some silver bars too. I mean, i'm not complaining or anything, but I just came in, slapped his ass cheeks around for a bit and walked out compared to the damage that everyone else was distributing.

>> No.12917038

I don't understand why you guys are hating on bars. It's a lot better than getting a shitty elemental book.

>> No.12917041

>>12917038
not when you have millions of useless cash. I'd rather have the books, those atleast have use.

>> No.12917046

>>12917041
Give cash please. I only have 200k and it's going down fast.

>> No.12917050

>>12917038
I already have a ton of gil from selling the arm and armor equipment I get. More defense won't really matter much against megabosses and I don't care about matches nearly enough to not have more gil for maxing my rares I like.

>> No.12917051

>>12917020
All helpers seem to get the same prize.

Eh, at least I can rest easy knowing I missed 20k instead of an SR.

>> No.12917055

woo, got an another athena, just need one more

lets go earth dragons

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12917064

yeah I was fine with the silver bars.

gotta support muh autism.

>> No.12917068

>>12917064
So you just don't want to evolve them or what?

>> No.12917072

>>12917068
4 maxing all rares

>> No.12917073

>>12917068
The higher level the card is the more stats carry over to evolved card. If you have two maxed it's a 20% boost to stats.

>> No.12917074

>>12917072
Ah. I see.

>> No.12917085

>>12917064
It's not autism if we're pretty much required to do this to hurt future bosses.

>> No.12917113

>>12917064
Is it worth it to level them to max? I just got another Sandra ( SR ) and I evolved her without maxing her. Maxing them both to level 50 would be kinda impossible.

>> No.12917122

>>12917113
Maxing them both to 50 is super easy, you just threw away a lot of it's potential power.

>> No.12917127

>>12917122
My current Sandra was level 27. It's just hard to reach 50.

>> No.12917133

>>12917127
You can use them as you level them, there is no reason to rush evolving R or SR cards.

>> No.12917134

>>12917113
According to the japwiki Sandra 4MAX at max level would have 12693 attack with 22356 skill damage.

Sandra without any max but max level would have 7676 attack with 14167 skill damage.

>> No.12917135

>>12917113
If I'm reading the jp wiki right the stat difference at level 50 ++ is: 7676/14,167 not leveled at all compared to 12,693/22,356 4 maxed

>> No.12917136

>>12917113
You just ruined two SR cards.

>> No.12917143

>>12917136
Oh well

>> No.12917208
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12917208

One more day until I get my Valkyrie waifu.

>> No.12917493
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12917493

>>12917017
Got them as well.

If my (limited) Japanese skills don't fail me, he's apparently supposed to drop Sandra, Heidi, the 4 books, and 2 items called "Giant Bird Wing/Feather" and "Dragon God Scale", which are apparently alchemy (?) raw materials.

My guess is that these 2 items are not yet in the game, so silver bars are a replacement in the pool much like the missing lolis are temporarily replaced with other valks.

>> No.12917603

>>12917208
she's the reward for day 30? nice
i'm about day 7 can't wait now

>> No.12918465

https://twitter.com/nutakugames/status/556199791102033921

New Valkyrie lolis.

>> No.12918572

>>12918465
i-is that
is that alice?

>> No.12918575

Is the rank cap in pvp level 9?
My "clear to rank up" is 0 and I am still doing pvp but the rank up battle icon isnt lighting up

>> No.12918595

>>12918575
Rank 9 is the max you can go right now.

>> No.12918640

destroy that dreadnought

>> No.12918693

Has anyone tried playing this game on mobile with that puffin browser

>> No.12918741

>>12918693

It works. Set flash quality to minimum to keep your bandwidth usage low. The browser has an in-screen trackpad for clicking on scrollbars that are too small to reliably hit with a finger.

>> No.12919026
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I'm getting really tired of this fucking silver dragon.

>> No.12919075
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>>12919026
Holy shit ruhroh! If you are in this thread, thank you so much. I'd blow you if I could. I also got this fucking thing and I have no idea what it does or how I use it. But hey! At least I was finally able to kill the damn thing.

>> No.12919097
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12919097

I'm not used to having this many comrades.
every boss I put up gets sent to 1hp as soon as I look back at it

>> No.12919118
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>>12919097
Well..... you know.... us comrades gotta look out for one and other you know. It's the hood rules.

>> No.12919119

>>12919097
I think i need more /jp/ comrades and less random request comrades

>> No.12919136

>>12919119
We should make a list of everybody we know so far

>> No.12919161

>>12919075
It's mostly combine fodder for XP.

>> No.12919169

>>12919136
I'd like this, I have like 25 or so randoms who are never fucking there.

>> No.12919234

So, is General of Fire Flare just straight up better than Mage of Madder Naga?

>> No.12919257

>>12919136
darkshadow18
Solva
TaintedDream

Keep it going, comrades

>> No.12919267

>>12919257
Justin

>> No.12919294

>>12919257
Clockwork
Pepperman
melo

>> No.12919297

>>12919257
Eric
Daverost
kabuto

>> No.12919402

>>12919257
me

>> No.12919406

>>12919402
oh shit, this is an actual comrade name

>> No.12919425

>>12919406
All of them are names, I tried them all and they all worked.

>> No.12919428

i'm off to bed, think we'll need a new thread soon so whoever makes it please include the list in the OP
thanks!

>> No.12919448

Whoever does make the new thread should put the names in a googledoc or a pastebin as to not make the OP gigantic with names.

>> No.12919452

>>12919425
It's just that "me" actually being a name surprised me.

>> No.12919608

I swear the percentages on the enhancing system is complete bullshit.

Failed 5 times in a row at 99% raising fodder from +3 to +4

>> No.12919664

>>12919136
yes i am looking for new comrade. i always try help with mega boss if i have force. i do 36-42k depending on boss, so not too strong.

if a complete list is round i will remove people who aren't from jp so i can fit more.

>> No.12919675

>>12919448
This, we could make a pastebin only for the names

btw my name is Ozio, I am helping with bosses when possible

>> No.12919720

Chau here, I think a pastebin is a good idea. That, or a googledocs.

>> No.12919744

>>12919720
I hope you got Sandra and not bars from Idoneus

>> No.12919746

>>12919744
Gold bars.
I mean, if I'm getting bars, at least it's gold, but...yea.

>> No.12919765

>>12919136
Teleo

>> No.12919773

>>12919675
i hope you get the silver. :( i blazed all the force i had left and did nothing. they are strong.

>>12919746
well, yes, gold is not so bad. better than copper.

where do people think best place to get fire cards to level Rs? 4-2 seem best, but i don't know, i am not far in story.

>> No.12919788

>>12919773
Use the first area to get cards for the first 30 or so levels. Then farm crystal cave for the expensive last few combines.

>> No.12919796

>>12919788
thank you. i am not up to crystal cave yet, hopefully it isn't far from 'Sacred Mountain Of Drifting Snow'

>> No.12919818

>>12919796
It's 5 maps after it, so a little ways out.

>> No.12919823

>>12919796
Five areas away.

>> No.12919909

Mobile Girl Delta has the best H scene so far, hands down. It's perfect.

>> No.12920020

>>12919234
Anyone have an answer to this?

>> No.12920046

>>12920020
Fire Flare is physical damage, Naga is magic damage.

Flare will hit harder with normal attacks but Naga will kick the shit out of flares skill damage, skill damage is generally preferred when you get to Dreadnoughts and DN Neos.

>> No.12920055

>>12920020
>>12920046
Both are inferior to Luca since Luca has a high initiative. All three have shit crit rates though.

>> No.12920064

>>12920055
Does initiative even matter on mega bosses? I know it's use in matches but I've already capped at rank 9 so I have no reason to care about initiative now.

>> No.12920065

>>12920046
But on the chart on the wiki, Flare has a higher skill AND attack

>> No.12920070

>>12920065
Well then yes, that would be the case.

That aside I was not aware a wiki was established for this, I have not looked in like a week now and there was not one then.

>> No.12920072

>>12920070
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Cards

This is what I went by, hopefully its not wrong.

>> No.12920078

>>12920064
If I'm not mistaken, ideally, you'd want high initiative AND crit so that the crit procs at the same time as the skill.

Think of it this way. Against a mega boss with high defense, if a Valkyrie only has high crit, she'll often only do regular attacks that may crit, but won't do a whole lot of damage per hit. If a Valkyrie only has high initiative, she'll use skills often, but if it doesn't proc a crit, she could still end up only doing 0's.

>>12920070
Japanese wiki's here. Something to include in the first post of the next thread, I guess.

http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/

>> No.12920100

>>12920064
Isn't intiative the chance to trigger skills? Why would it not matter?

>>12920020
You decide.

Flare++ Lv 45 (Crit:6, Balance:9, Initiative: 28%)
4 Straight: 5541 Attack, 14845 Skill
4 Max: 8008 Attack, 21091 Skill

Luca++ Lv 45 (Crit:5, Balance:20, Initiative: 41%)
4 Straight: 4377 Attack, 13671 Skill
4 Max: 6826 Attack, 22609 Skill

Naga++ Lv 45 (Crit:2, Balance:8, Initiative: 29%)
4 Straight: 4976 Attack, 14349 Skill
4 Max: 7889 Attack, 23332 Skill

Source: JP wiki

>> No.12920323 [SPOILER] 
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12920323

Gotta admit, saw that coming from the start

Also my avatar is Blaxer, if i have force i like spamming on the mega bosses so add me if you feel like it, getting tired of batles all alone no one helps and no one's in a boss battle so i can't help either.

>> No.12920359

>>12919257
Schverika
(not active around GMT 0000 - 0700)

>> No.12920437

>>12919257
Flocci

>> No.12920468

Does anybody know what the time limit between removing comrades is?

>> No.12920510

>>12920468
My guess would be about 10-30 minutes.

>> No.12920519
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12920519

Sweet Jesus, my 150 force isn't enough for this.

>> No.12920538

>>12920519
I can usually poke a few requests because most of them are around 11~16 useage

>> No.12920610

What's the post limit for this thread?

>> No.12920665

>>12919773
good I had some jew force, that damn thight time but I got him

>> No.12920684

stage 22 gives 0.5 progress, then another 0.5, then 1 progress for every 21 stamina
nice

>> No.12920946
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>>12917046
Gold/Silver/Copper Bar drop rate too low. God damn it RNG.

Being poor is suffering.

>> No.12920959

In the first stage it's possible to meet bosses spending 1 stamina?

>> No.12920986

>>12920959
You'd be spending 3 stamina. The chance is really low though.

>> No.12920994

>>12920986
I see, so it's no good to farm bosses in this low lvl stages, I didn't find a single one spending almost 200 stamina

>> No.12921013

>>12920994

Spending 200 stamina in stage 1 to look for bosses would succeed maybe 40~60% of the time, by my own experiences. It's not the main reason to farm stage 1.

>> No.12921024

>>12921013
Is there a reason to farm it at all?

>> No.12921028

>>12921024
Level 1 Earth/Water Commons

>> No.12921037

>>12921034
see you there

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add my alt acc if you want to :)

>> No.12921687

In real need of comrade. Name is Ahia.

>> No.12921726

Hm... Is it better to grind out a few of the earlier stages for combining fodder or should I try to rush the story more?

Currently I'm on stage 10, Help'd be appreciated.

>> No.12921929

>>12921726
you dont have anything to use the fodder on in earlier stages, there is no reason to stay there, as you can always come back to grind if you need fodder

>> No.12921974

>>12921929
I have some R's. 's Why I'm asking.

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