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skyrim mods

>>14123612
Because Gensokyo is literally a closed space, you idiot.

>>14123626
Gensokyo is a country large enough to open world in though you nerd.

>>14123612
Either it'd be too shallow with nothing to do or it won't be all of Gensokyo. You need an actual budget to make something big y'know.

>>14123612
A new breed of danmaku?

My dream game is a Touhou roguelike where you have to traverse Gensokyo on foot, collecting magic items, talismans, food, and booze, while fending off fairies, lesser youkai, and maybe the odd loli as well.

>>14123612
Not enough info about locations, also a game like that needs a big budget unless you want something really crappy.

>>14123612
Touhou-themed minecraft server.

>>14124848
its not the same

>>14124950
Anything is possible with enough mods.

>>14123612
>Why hasn't anyone made an Open World Touhou game yet
Because there is no way to monetize it. ZUN's licence forbid ad and subscription based revenue. Self respecting devs do not do anything for free.

>>14124972
He asked about making the game not getting money from it you jewish nerd.

This is why we can't have nice things in the West.

>>14124848
Years ago /jp/ had a bunch of Touhou-themed minecraft servers that a bunch of autists went all-out on, building Myourenji and shrines and all sorts of other shit. The people are all gone, though.

>>14124027
I'd play the shit out of that if it was a VR game.

>>14123612
I'm an overambitious Math/CS student and I would love to work on an open-world Touhou game, but I probably have neither the resources nor ability to make it a reality.

>>14125149
You don't sound very overambitious to me.

>>14125149
We live in a world where you can download game dev software for free. You have nothing to lose but time.

>>14125182
Not that anon, but making a game requires a lot. What is he going to do about 3D and 2D art, music, and sound design? Is he going to write the character interaction? Level design? If he could get a proposal and prove he has organizational skills then he could probably cobble together a team from the OC threads and maybe /agdg/ on /vg/, but there's a lot of work to be done that it's incredibly hard to get people to do for free.

>>14125220
Exactly. A diverse array of talents is required to make a game and I'm not a one-man band like ZUN.

I don't have a lot of experience working on complex software projects and I'm really timid about approaching other people for collaboration, so that's why I think of making a fan game as overambitious.

That being said, if anybody wants to throw out their ideas, I'm all ears. If I can come up with some concrete plans and people seem sufficiently interested, I may show up again at some unspecified point in time with design documents.

>>14125300
Ideas-wise, the Touhou game I'd like to see is a VR game focused around exploring Gensokyo and talking to the various youkai and humans. Gameplay would mostly consists of walking around and doing simple quests. Combat would be danmaku, but it'd be a lot easier than the official games. The game would end once you've completed all the quests, and overall the game should have a SoL feel to it.

>>14125410
So, basically "The Elder Scrolls: Gensokyo" with VR support.

In this case, I would probably be looking at leveraging the power of an existing AAA game engine and learning the ins and outs of Oculus development.

Additionally, since its supposed to be a virtual reality simulation, I would probably need to recruit modelers, level designers and animators to produce lots of detailed assets. Large amounts of content multiplied by high quality (this is supposed to be a virtual reality simulation after all) equates to lots of man hours from talented people that I probably won't be able to obtain. If I could settle for simple, stylized graphics, it might be more reasonable. I don't know how that would look in VR. Depends on what you are willing to settle for.

>>14125488
VR works just fine with simple, stylized graphics instead of ultra-detailed assets since simple graphics tend to have lower resource usage, and VR requires a lot of computer resources to run. You can start by reading https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/intro-vr/latest/concepts/bp_intro/ to get a basic idea of development concepts when making a VR game.

>>14125041
I gave you the reason why it doesn't exits. Without the financial incentives there's not point in investing that much time into something. Non-programmers such as yourself do not understand how much work goes into creating a game like that. Even with an existing engine it would be a full time endeavor.

ZUN has created a non-profit (i.e., anti-capitalist) environment so Touhou has little appeal to indie developers in the west where they can pick from things like kickstarter, indiegogo and steam. ZUN wants fans to advertise his products but he doesn't want to share the profits. He's a typical Japanese socialist. Please respond with immature things like, "money isn't important". Tell that to your mom who supports you or the tax payers who support her you socialist little shit. I apologize for that rant.

>>14125588
>He's a typical Japanese socialist.
His restrictions on derivative work aren't any different from any other Japanese corporation's.

>>14125556
Alright. Well that simplifies things significantly.

Also, apparently Oculus Touhou games are not unprecedented, so that's somewhat encouraging. I'm not sure as to which engine the developer used, though.

https://share.oculus.com/app/suwako-chan-cubic-for-oculus-rift

For me, it would be ideal to write as much of the game as I can from scratch, but I think that's at odds with being able to actually deliver a finished product at any point in the next decade.

Feed me more suggestions if possible.

>>14125604
The engine isn't going to have too much of an influence on the final product, try both Unity and Unreal and see which one works for you. You can try fleshing out the idea and drafting a detailed proposal to start with, and then work from there to get individuals willing to work on the game.

>>14125488
>>So, basically "The Elder Scrolls: Gensokyo" with VR support.
You could use the OpenMorrowind project if you want to go with something like that. I'm sure VR support will be hacked in there before through one of the underlying engines before it's done.

>>14125760
Interesting. I had no idea that this project existed. Maybe creating a fork of OpenMW and adding Oculus support would be a good start.

>>14125787
I looked into it, and there is apparently already work being done on OpenSceneGraph, which is what OMW uses.

But that would be a horrible start. VR support should be the last thing you're worried about though. It moves much too fast to develop for before you have the rest in an acceptable state. If you spend a couple of months getting VR working, then a year to get the assets done, you're going to have to rewrite the VR at the end. Save stuff like VR and adding extra frills on the dresses for the end when you approach 1.0.

>>14125805

Okay, good point. I guess my priority should be to figure out which features are most essential before I invest months of my life researching volatile cutting-edge technology. Frilly dresses are obviously a must-have, though.

I'm getting lots of useful advice. It's welcome to see this level of feedback.

>>14123623
There's, like, 2 Touhou mods for Skyrim. One changes the loading screens, another gives bards some flute arranges to play.

Math/CS guy, here.

I'm going to turn in for the night unless there are last second suggestions. I will try to check in regularly, or at least for as long as there are people who seem interested, to discuss ideas and elicit requirements. If I can garner enough hype, maybe some people will jump on board with me.

>>14123623
Yeah, flute music and playing as a white Reimu makes me feel like it's a touhou open world game.

>>14125969
Go to bed Math/CS guy. This will be /jp/'s failed project #5322 if you are lucky. It most likely won't even make it that far. I've seen this happen so much on /jp/. All we need now is an ideas guy.

>>14125993
Thanks for the constructive criticism, Anon. I will go to bed.

>>14123623
Better fallout.

>>14123612
Because Japanese don't like open world games, too much choice.

>>14125588
>ZUN wants fans to advertise his products but he doesn't want to share the profits.
But he literally allows the fans to profit from their fan works. They just have to stay doujin if they want to do so, and they have to follow his rules.

>>14123612
It would be really cool if each group (scarlet devil mansion, moriya shrine, etc) had their own story-arcs. It would also be cool if there were multiple endings.