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Why is the western 2hu fanbase so retarded?

Why is the Eternal House "Eientei", while Scarlet Devil Mansion isn't "Koumakan"?

Why are all of the games ordered by their gibberish Engrish subtitles instead of their actual names?

Why are characters blatantly misnamed, like Lumia being called "Rumia" for no sane reason?

There are obviously way more issues than just these, but these are just the absolute basics. I don't think it's really justified to say you've beaten a 2hu game if you didn't play it in Japanese.

>> No.15733873

Which one of these sound cooler to you?
Touhou Chireiden or Touhou: Subterranean Animism

>> No.15733886
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>>15733856
Fuck off
I call them what I want

Only autists who give a shit about those details anyway

>> No.15733900

>>15733873
Nice cherry picking of one of the few subtitles that's vaguely similar to the original, and then putting it up against a term you can't even understand instead of the English equivalent. The Palace of Earth Spirits isn't as catchy, but at least it's the name of the game.

>>15733886
You can do whatever you want, it just makes you a braindead retard.

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>>15733856
>Why are all of the games ordered by their gibberish Engrish subtitles instead of their actual names?
They're almost universally ordered by their release date, actually.

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>>15733900
Who are you calling someone retard on /jp/?
No one cares about your stupid argument

Kill yourself and let the thread die

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>>15733856
>like Lumia being called "Rumia" for no sane reason?
What.

>Why are all of the games ordered by their gibberish Engrish subtitles instead of their actual names?
I don't know what list you looked at but the wiki is ordered by release date.

>> No.15733921

>>15733856
>I don't think it's really justified to say you've beaten a 2hu game if you didn't play it in Japanese.
i can't even think of a snarky response for this

>> No.15733937

>>15733856
What a bad thread, oh my god

>> No.15733976

So this is what it feels being primary

>> No.15734060

Christ, this is the worst thread i've seen on /jp/ in months. How is this shit still alive and not rotting in the archives as it should be? Even those fucking idol generals that have been plaguing this place are better than this. Clean the cum off your eyelids, open them up and read what i'm typing here very carefully because the future of the board--no, the whole site depends on it. Kill yourself. 'Everything bad about /jp/ is a direct result of your existence and the only solution is to remove yourself from the gene pool. Maybe you should destroy your genitals for good measure.

>> No.15734077

>>15733856
t. Davido-kun

>> No.15734080

>>15733856
>I don't think it's really justified to say you've beaten a 2hu game if you didn't play it in Japanese.

Yeah, NISA really butchered the difficulty of the games with its localization.

>> No.15734108

>>15733856
Because Eientei is shorter than Eternal House.
Scarlet Devil Mansion can be shortened to SDM, and is shorter than Koumakan as a result.

ZUN pronounced it as Rumia. Just like we say Chi-Ru-No instead of Sir-no, we arent plebs who go against ZUN's will.

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>I don't think it's really justified to say you've beaten a 2hu game if you didn't play it in Japanese

Best thread on /jp/ right now.

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Shut up and post 2hu mom in bikini

>> No.15734150

>>15733856
ゲームの難しさは言語に関係ない。お前は日本語が出来さえか?

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15734153

I don't like shmups but like 2hus how bad am I?

>> No.15734155

>>15734108
Why does it matter which is shorter? Surely the one that actually means something is more useful than an effectively gibberish name, which is exactly why SDM is used in the first place, because Koumakan means nothing to you, just like Eientei doesn't. It's a completely bizarre double standard.

>ZUN pronounced it as Rumia.
We're talking about a nip here, they need weeks of practice to even differentiate between L and R, and you're saying he clearly said "Ru" somewhere instead of just saying ル? You're grasping at straws.

The whole "sir-no" thing even came from Zun romanizing the name in a bizarre manner, making it even more obvious he has no understanding of English conventions. It's always been Chi-Ru-No, and taking anything written by someone who doesn't even understand English as the word of god is the height of idiocy.

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>>15734108
>Just like we say Chi-Ru-No
Chi-R-No

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>>15734153
You're better than pretentious primaries

Post more cute 2hus

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>>15734108
>>15734155
>>15734162
This is how you really say it, you willy-wonkas.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4fwdvk

>> No.15734190

>>15734155
I don't understand, in that OP you act all weeaboo to the point you consider clearing the game in Japanese the only real way for some reason, but with names you say your English headcanon is more important than what ZUN wrote? Oh sorry, I should say JUN, because that's the real intended nickname he wanted to use as a kid but was too stupid to know the alphabet phonetics.

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>>15734162
I'm with you anon.

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>>15734187

>> No.15734210

>>15734190
I'm saying that I feel sorry for you, being forced to view the game through the eyes of clueless translators and people who can't pick up on basic ideas.

One nugget of gold, going back to Cirno here, is that ZUN even tried to correct himself back in Touhou Sangetsusei by referring to Cirno as Chilno. But that was taken as a "mistake" by the English community, because something that obviously shows off the whole reason for the character's name must be wrong after you've already spent a decade calling her Cirno everywhere. Can't have that.

And then you start rambling about ZUN/JUN, when we're talking about names based on footnotes in manuals instead of online handles in constant use for over 20 years. You're a real genius.

>> No.15734214

>>15734210
how far are you going to take this bait?

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>>15734202

>> No.15734223

You're right.

>> No.15734245

>>15734124
Kanako is such wasted potential, artists could incorporate her mirror into lewd designs by giving her a choker with a small version of it, but no.

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>>15734124
Why is that barren hag given the focus then?

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This thread reminded me of this shitty image.

>> No.15734270

>>15733856
>Why are characters blatantly misnamed, like Lumia being called "Rumia" for no sane reason?
B8?

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>>15734217

>>15734245
I like to see her cleavage in full display

>> No.15734298
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>>15734255
Because Kanako is hotter but I like cute frog, too

Too bad I already has Sanae as my girlfriend

>> No.15734308

>>15733937
This

>> No.15734332

>>15734278
Chokers dont effect cleavage.

>> No.15734573

>>15734267
How old is that image?

>> No.15734604
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Would you bath together with Momiji in your backyard?

>> No.15734605

Shit thread but if we're really getting into character names

Rumia's name is a corruption of illuminate as a silly little form of irony when it comes to her ability. Pronouncing it or spelling it Rumia or Lumia really doesn't make a difference anyway.

Cirno's name is a corruption of chill, it would make sense to pronounce it like "chi-ru-no" or "chillno".

And they both go with EoSD's western theme in that barely anybody introduced in EoSD has a Japanese name (I mean Sakuya isn't even her real name anyway so whatever).

>> No.15734631

>>15733856
>Why are all of the games ordered by their gibberish Engrish subtitles instead of their actual names?

The Japanese names are also gibberish.

>> No.15734638

You can't just discuss whenever a given name is correct or not, it makes no sense. We many have real life cases of common names getting modified to fit the country's language. No matter what reason there is, Rumia is called Rumia. You don't suddenly stop being John and change into Giovanni when you go to Italy or Juan when you go to a Spanish speaking country.

>> No.15734677

>>15734638
Fucking THIS. Anytime a company or fandom tries localizing shit it starts triggering my autism.

You don't call the Kamehameha the Turtle Wave Volley just because that's what it translates to, you call it the Kamehameha.

>> No.15734714

So this....is the power of crossies.
wow

>> No.15734723

>>15734638
>No matter what reason there is, Rumia is called Rumia.
Even when the reason is simply that ZUN didn't know the correct romanization? It's Lumia dude, the name is supposed to be ironic.

>>15734677
It's nothing to do with translations, you utter sperg.

>> No.15734736

>>15734677
>You don't call the Kamehameha the Turtle Wave Volley just because that's what it translates to, you call it the Kamehameha.

And you don't call 非想天則 Unthinkable Natural Law or whatever, you call it Hisoutensoku.

>> No.15734794

>>15734736
Hisoutensoku is a universal exception because nobody can be bothered to type out 'Lacking Perception of the Rule of Heaven in the East' or whatever preferred translation every time.

>> No.15734817

At first I thought you were just some anti-localization puritan, until I read:
>I don't think it's really justified to say you've beaten a 2hu game if you didn't play it in Japanese.
And now I know you're trolling.

>> No.15735070

>>15733856
I'm gonna bite just because.
>Why is the Eternal House "Eientei", while Scarlet Devil Mansion isn't "Koumakan"?
Rule of cool. Whichever name sounds better or handier is adapted over time. Scarlet Devil Mansion abbreviates nicely to SDM while retaining an individual appeal, while Eientei is picked over "Eternal House" because of how generic the latter sounds.
>Why are all of the games ordered by their gibberish Engrish subtitles instead of their actual names?
They're sorted by release date. Check your facts.
>Why are characters blatantly misnamed, like Lumia being called "Rumia" for no sane reason?
Rumia is an actual name.
>There are obviously way more issues than just these, but these are just the absolute basics. I don't think it's really justified to say you've beaten a 2hu game if you didn't play it in Japanese.
There are literally no differences between Japanese and English-translated versions of Touhou, unlike games like, say, Devil May Cry 3, where regional releases' difficulties are adjusted.

>> No.15735931

Why is /jp/ so awful lately? Where are these people coming from? I just want to take it easy.

>> No.15736150

>>15733856

This is why primaries are cancer.

>> No.15739401

>>15735931
General crossboarders combined with shitters from forums are invading because of Comiket.

>> No.15740970

>>15734267
I wish the guy that made this didn't put so many meme images, I don't know who half of these are supposed to be

>> No.15741703

>>15735931
/jp/ need less primaries that only care about arguing and polluting cute comfy thread with "muh canon" and ugly oldfag meme.

>> No.15743315

MC fkn Kill yourself u pathetic weeb >>>/a/

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