/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>16505895
That picture of Luka is great.

Luka was a mistake.

>>16505895
I wish Len would get fanart this high of quality.

>>16505958
Please don't say mean things about my wife.

>>16505958

evec was a mistake

>>16505966

He doesn't? I tough he had at least a few good stuff now and then. Kinda like IA does from time to time.

>>16505966
There are plenty of good and great fan arts for Len out there though, with a bunch of artists specifically drawing him over and over again. If anything it's Luka who hasn't had much good stuff in a long time, and even if she does get something nicely rendered, it's often of poor taste and/or poorly sexualized, like showing her with gigantic proportions.

>>16506124
>>16506242
I dunno, I just thought the OP pic was really well done.

>>16506641
>the most average, bland, generic animu looking drawing
>really well done
Sasuga secondary-kun

>>16506049
What is she sitting on?

>>16506641
If you've never made the effort to at least look into it yourself then refrain from claiming Len hasn't "high quality fan arts". There are dozens of art websites and boorus for that, and coincidentally it'd also help fill up your 10 pics Len folder we see posted every thread too.

Not that I'm purposely trying to blow things out of proportion but people thinking it's fine to spout bullshit when they get called on just because they said so in a carefree manner tickle me in wrong way.

>>16506822

>>16506902
Believe it or not, people have different tastes. What I think is really good might not be the same to you. All the super high quality stuff I find on the boorus most of the time is a group picture and not just solo Len. No need to get autistic over it.
And don't worry, my folder is a lot larger than that. I just post the ones I like.

>>16506902
Also, you sure are quiet when>>16506822 posts.

>>16506931
I'm sorry? Why should I tell him anything?

Are you telling me I should actually fuel shitposting? How many times have we told you to stop? He always has you playing in his hands, it's way overdue you realize it, anon.

>>16506971
Someone else always replies and keeps him coming.

how do i into vocaloid
i used to listen to a shitton of utaite vocaloid covers but i never listened to any vocaloid songs

>>16507029
Play games.

>>16506971
He'll never learn because the dude is genuinely dumb as hell. Every day is like his first day on 4chan.

>>16507025
I still fail to see the reason why I should become your personal white knight.

>>16507029
Go over Youtube and listen to whatever, see what artists/Vocaloids you like best, get albums from them, and/or go over mikudb and pick whatever attracts your attention, look at the links in the OP, etc... It's fine to ask us for recommendations too, we don't bite.

>>16507029
Just type a vocaloid name in YouTube search bar. tons of stuff there, translated too.

On a side note just watched this one and oh boy the feels
https://youtu.be/R_4Ut1DI4wA

>>16507050
I don't care about that, you just said stuff about hypocrisy and calling out bullshit, which I thought was quite autistic for posting on a chinese rice cooking board.

>>16507046
I'm like the other anon, where I don't like bullshit, but I find his especially annoying.

>>16507029
Listen to the original vocaloid versions of the songs you like, find out which producers made them and check their other works.
You can also check the most viewed songs on niconico to get a general feel about what is popular and see what interests you.

>>16505966
He really does though. Just look around on Pixiv, there are a lot of good artists that draw him all the time and a lot of them are really dedicated and make some high quality art (a good deal of those artists focus specifically on Len too).

>>16507789
Yeah, I think I might have worded it wrong. A lot of people that I have images saved from pixiv, either deleted their works or don't post anymore.

So is there an vocaloid canon?
I'm going through Kagamine Len videos and it gets confusing; he's an adult, a lewd playboy, a normal 14 year old boy, sometimes Rin is his sister sometimes a lover etc. should I view each song as a self contained artistic expression of the author and view the Kagamines as actors in a story?

>>16507812
No, the only canon thing are physical measurements.

>>16507812
>should I view each song as a self contained artistic expression of the author and view the Kagamines as actors in a story?

That's the general idea.

>>16507822
>>16507829
I see. Thanks

>>16506124

That pic needs coloring.

>>16507812
Unless it's part of a series it's all stand alone

>>16507812
It's all left open ended on purpose. All there is is the official measurements and age (and even the age is different from the official one sometimes).

In the case of the Kagamines specifically, Crypton originally released them as twins, but later decided against it so they wouldn't stifle people's creativity or something, and now they are officially just "mirror images".

What's ineresting though is that the fandom ends up creating their own stereotypes for the vocaloids which is used in a lot of songs, like Luka being more serious, Miku more cute/upbeat, Len being either a dork or a playboy, etc.

Is mikgazer vol.1 the best vocaloid album ever created?

What killed vocaloid?

>>16509589
You. Ya dick.

How can we save vocaloid?

>>16509672
You gotta buy a copy of the 2016 Miku Expo bluray. It's the only hope to save them all.

>>16509589
(((Youtube Red))), but seriously, like half the Vocaloid library got deleted. Including almost all of ManboP's stuff and even the original Ievan Polka post, which had to be reposted. Thank God people like 40mP and LamazeP have official channels.

>>16509672

the 2020 olympics are our only hope, but it seems like there is a very chance.

until then, enjoy the recline.

>>16509589
Looks quite alive to me

Any news on the 3rd DLC pack?

Meiko has to be the least used Vocaloid. Even less than Kaito

>>16510423
She's not even close to the least used, not by a mile, but I guess you mean of the CFMloids since all the secondaries here think there are only 6 vocaloids.

OH SHIT I FORGOT ABOUT TWINTAIL DAY.

>>16509589
Becoming too commercialized.

Did someone rip this already?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcm9sMfV4BM

>>16509589
gamefag.

>>16510599

Not as far as I know.

>>16506124
>>16508107

Someone with actual skill should try this:

>http://paintschainer.preferred.tech/

>>16510712
>miku trying to ride the popularity of a rising star.
Sad!

>>16509894
But after that? Vocaloid already had a "boom", even if the Olympics cause a new peak in vocaloid popularity, what will stop it from reclining again after a few years? Isn't there anything we, the fan community, or the companies (like Crypton or 1st Place) can do to keep vocaloid alive in the long run?

>>16510599
>>16510712
Anyone knows what is the full setlist? It seems pretty shit from this trailer. Is there even any non-commissioned song in it?

>anon posts a pic of a loli Miku in a past Miku monday thread on /v/
>fast forward quite a bit of time to yesterday
>realize it was same Miku as pic related
>find out what she's from
>find out what Mantis_X is
>pause within seconds and find out what background song it is
>LUVORATORRRRRY!
>Youtube PV
>Gumi & Rin PV
>Look up Lyrics
>remember soap lagoon
Why is Gumi a bad influence? Also Nekomimi Switch will never be the same for me again. Also found out the guy that made Luka Luka Night Fever is gone. Why does vocaloid related stuff bum me out yesterday?
Also anyone here play the Project diva games?

>>16513354
Who are you quoting?

>>16513354
>Mantis_X
I hate him so goddam much.

Also
>didn't know Luvoratory
>didn't know about samfree
Is this what they call a secondary?

But more important
>/v/
Leave.

>>16513628
This would be a close encounter of the second kind.

>>16509589
We did.

>>16510507
>p4k reviewed a Miku song
Yeah I think that's probably it.

>>16513628
Aww, come on guys, be nice. We were all newfags once. Every newfag that discovers Vocaloid and ends up buying merch, CDs or going to concerts adds another day to Miku's life.

>>16514648
<3

>>16514027
Who?

Why does Youtube keep fucking deleting vocaloid music? I have to settle for that live concert version of World is Mine.

>>16514736
stop being a secondary

>>16514027
I literally just saw that. Wow, I don't usually get mad when Vocaloid goes mainstream for a moment or two but... REEEEEE

>>16514736
Just use NND. Losing the youtube uploads sucks because those give Vocaloid a lot of visibility (there used to be songs with, what, 10M+ views?), but whatever, it's not like the content is just lost forever.

>>16505966

I wish IA and more Vocaloids could get fanart of this quality and variety.

>>16506124
>>16510822
i tried

>>16515499

Not bad.

Mitchie M did it again! Miku Symphony 2017 is confirmed.

https://twitter.com/mikusymphony

>>16516488
Woah, nice. That was kinda unexpected. Will they do different songs this time?

>>16519653
I hope there will be less Mitchie M songs.

>>16519685
Wasn't it just the one medley?

Personally I'm hoping for some Luka songs this time, as well as more Kagamine songs (even if it's just one medley again). Just Be Friends orchestral version would be amazing though.

>>16519809
Considering the name of this is "Miku Symphony" I wouldn't hold my breath to see more non-Miku songs being used.

>>16519826
Oh, of course, that was just wishful thinking. I was already happy enough about the Kagamine medley in the last one as is.

But still, "Miku Expo" does feature all of Crypton's vocaloids anyway so I don't think it's impossible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veA5r_VhklA

>>16509589
IT WAS ME
IT WAS ME ALL ALONG

>>16520083
I'm not big on English songs especially when it's filled with tumblr and dA arts but I must say I really like that one, the instrumental especially.

Cheers.

Can someone tell me what the song is about?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6NhFS6SynM

>>16520496
It's about ninjas being ninjas.

Would you eat her buns?

>>16521723
I don't know how they taste, but I'd try them.

>>16520083
This is terrible

I've only ever played Project Mirai, how much harder is Project Diva F2? Just got that.
Also heard that Gumi's not a main character in anything besides Mirai, does that mean songs like Invisible just aren't in Diva at all?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXSpdipuiFs

>>16523330
Mirai is like baby mode, the console series is like toddler mode. The arcade series is the only thing challenging.

>>16523330
Mirai is a bit easier than Diva F and F2nd, yes (which are in turn a bit easier than FT). Just practice a bit until you get used to the control scheme and you'll be fine.

Gumi is not a Crypton vocaloid and she only has a guest appearance in Mirai. So yeah, no Gumi songs anywhere else.

>>16523330
Gumi is in duets and when she isn't she's stalking everyone else following them home.

>>16523496
What a creep.

/jp/ i need your help.
A long time ago i found pretty weird and creepy song on youtube (chibi miku walking in some kind of crayon world) and the lyrics said "kawabongo" or some shit like that (inb4 popipo)
I loved that video and i saved it on favorites but it was taken down.

>>16514648
I'd rather die and take miku with me than have to talk to that secondary in these threads.

How long has mikudb been down?

>>16525223
When ISN'T it down?

>>16524947
Something by Kikuo perhaps?

>>16521905

>>16525567
No.

>>16525581
?

>>16525667
You're alright, but no.

>>16525870
I just meant to post a food pic for a food pic, anon.

>>16525910
Right, right, nevermind.

>>16523416
Crypton buying GUMI when?

>>16526034
So they can ruin her? No thanks.

>>16526034
They may as well just buy Internet Co, since I think Gumi is the only thing they have that makes money. I don't know what else they do there besides vocaloid.

>>16526379
Try to google things before posting shit next time.

>>16526034
Hopefully never. Crypton is already stretched thin enough somehow with their existing vocaloids, and she'd just be put aside and left to rot since Crypton only really cares about Miku and sometimes the Kagamines nowadays.

>>16526336
Well, their current record for ruined Vocaloids is 3/6 so it's fifty-fifty I guess (though you could say Kaito and Meiko were ruined from the start...)

>>16526779
I did, that's why I said that.

>>16526794
>so it's fifty-fifty I guess
Still not worth the risk, especially if it's just to get her featured in pandering games that only put the same mainstream artists/songs over and over again. I think Internet Co has done a good job so far with GUMI, there's nothing to fix. Not trying to argue by the way since we seem to agree on this.

Anyone knows how good her talking bank sounds nowadays with her V4 release?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__uLBokN41U video is from 2013 and yet she sounded pretty good already.

>>16526985
>I think Internet Co has done a good job so far with GUMI
by not giving a shit about her game?

>>16526991
I was referring to GUMI as a Vocaloid, i.e. her voice banks.

In case it wasn't clear enough I don't give a shit about Vocaloid games, and give even less shit about the opinion of people who regard games as anything important.

>>16525473
Sadly, it isn't

>>16526985
Gumi English is still terrible and ch aw p ee but otherwise she's ok I guess. >>16526991
Internet Co doesn't do any marketing. That means no concerts as well. If vocaloid hadn't taken off with the idol concept, most people would say Gumi is doing well by getting consistent updates for each new engine update.

>>16527690
>English
Irrelevant, no one but tumblr cares about English songs, and please don't tell me other English voicebanks sound any good either, if anything she might have the best English voicebank as of today (although I still think Luka V2 is still the best in that regard).

One time I saw it under a good light was https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGazUD6dd3Y which was a pretty neat way of using her English bank and sounded pretty good/original. I'd like to see more Japanese artists trying their hand at doing similar songs.

>Internet Co doesn't do any marketing. That means no concerts as well.
I'll give you that, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know the reason behind this. Either they're incompetent regarding marketing or there is a reason behind this (money, fear of failure, ...). I'd like GUMI concerts too, seeing GUMI live in the Chou concerts was a feast, but only one a year, and MMD that is, is too little.

I guess Gumi escaped being burned by "updates" so far.

I made a cinematic remix of Wildfire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf0QT1XeEQ8

>>16528202
nice, thats pretty cool

>>16505895
Anybody here have experience of getting the rights to a CFM voclaloid so they can legitimately use them (on YouTube for example) and maybe make a little dough along the way?

Maybe not the best place to ask this; then again, not sure where is the best place to ask this.

>>16527746
Internet Co.treats Gumi the same way they treat all of their products: as music software. They're not interested in promoting idol bullshit, that's part of the company's values. Their CEO said something like that in an interview.

>>16528600
As far as I know, if you buy a vocaloid you acquire the rights to do all the music and shit you want.
However I never actually bought a vocaloid, so I may be wrong.

>>16528600
This is the place to ask this, no worries.

You don't need rights to anything, you just buy the Vocaloid software you want and use it to make your music, which you can then do whatever you want with. It's just like buying a new guitar or keyboard and making a song using that; it's exactly why the Vocaloid scene thrives on independent/small producers.

>>16528600
I think you need permission to use them in promotional shit like album art.

>>16523404
>>16523416
>Mirai is the easiest
I don't know, I've had a lot of trouble with 1 2 Fanclub and Invisible on Extreme and still can't perfect them, but songs like Piano Forte Scandal were pretty easy.

It kind of sucks that Gumi's not in since I loved the Pandora Voxx album, but at least Rin's still there.

>>16509825
>ManboP

I was wondering why I couldn't find ManboP's stuff anymore. What does Youtube Red have to do with all these videos getting removed?

>>16513354
>Why is Gumi a bad influence?

Don't talk shit about my waifu

So I've been getting into Vocaloid more recently, and was trying to find a Vocaloid general thread. I checked /mu/ first because I assumed anything music goes there, and was a bit surprised to find it here on /jp/.

Just out of curiosity, why is Vocaloid discussed here and not on /mu/? I know Vocaloid is considered part of "Otaku Culture", but shouldn't the fact that Vocaloid is music relegate it to /mu/?

Also, how does /mu/ generally react if you mention Vocaloid over there?

So do you guys ever listen to non-Japanese vocaloids?

I've been learning Chinese for a while now and enjoy listening to Luo Tianyi songs. I think that generally the quality of Chinese producers has yet to reach the level of Japanese producers, but there's a few good songs and it's cool watching the scene develop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJms1CGHjn8

>>16529481
Because Vocaloid is not just a music but also characters, games, arts, various non-music related events etc. And it's also strongly related to Otaku Culture.

>>16529481
There have been a few Vocaloid threads on /mu/ before that I've seen, however it's usually just the same few albums that are "acceptable" to like because of their genre (mathrock, shoegaze, etc). They usually don't last very long since it's hard to discuss chinese animu robot music while pretending to be an elitist music conoisseur to fit in with the rest of the board, you know.

Also, imposing the limitation of discussing "music" specifically just hinders discussion artificially since Vocaloid encompasses so much more than that (even though /mu/ does have its fair share of derailed band/singer threads, but not on this scope).

In the end, keeping the thread here keeps the topics of discussion more open ended and lets people talk about whatever they want in relation to Vocaloid like anon said here >>16529496

>>16529496
>>16529528
You make good points anons. Based on your quality posts, it also seems like there's less pretentious pricks here than on /mu/

>>16529538
Don't worry, we do get our fair share of shitposts to keep things honest

>>16529538
Michie M is shit

Anyone know where i can get IA - 01/02/03 albums? Every Mega link i visited is dead. At this rate i can only find them at Spotify or itunes.

How do you guys feel about Masa? I don't care for the lyrics usually cause most of the time they seem redundant and edgy for the sake of edgy (with rare exceptions such as pic related), but I can't the help but love the beats.

>>16529565
mitchie M is a cute boy who works hard for his waifu

>>16529565
Anyone ever denies that?

>>16528683
>>16528712
>>16528899
To my knowledge, you can buy vocaloid software, make music and sell without legal issues.

What I am asking is *that* plus using the image of a vocaloid character such as Miku. I mean really, I want to make a YouTube music video featuring a vocaloid. Does anyone have this experience with getting the proper rights? I want to do this correctly but the actual process in doing so isn't really clear.

>>16530657
If you purchase vocaloid you can make music with it and publish or sell it or do whatever you want with your song.
You can use official illustrations in non commercial products, they are CC BY-NC. If you want to use image of Miku for commercial purposes, you need to make drawings on your own or use drawings you have licence.
Keep in mind that if you use MMD or other program for animations, various models might have various licences.
But if you are just making some random music video for fun, you don't really need to worry, just don't enable Ads. It's not like crypton or music makers are going to sue you because you have some 5k views video of proprietary Miku model dancing to random song.

See http://piapro.net/intl/en_for_creators.html

Is Miku fap material?

>>16532164
No

>>16530704
>If you purchase vocaloid you can make music with it and publish or sell it or do whatever you want with your song.
Agreed. That's what I have read.

>You can use official illustrations in non commercial products, they are CC BY-NC. If you want to use image of Miku for commercial purposes, you need to make drawings on your own or use drawings you have licence.
That makes sense.

>Keep in mind that if you use MMD or other program for animations, various models might have various licences.
That too makes sense. I'll be honest in saying I'd rather build something from the ground up.

>But if you are just making some random music video for fun, you don't really need to worry, just don't enable Ads.
So 90% of my intentions is to make a music video for fun. The other 10% is just to see what money could be generated through ads. By definition, that is not CC BY-NC so I'd need a license.

>It's not like crypton or music makers are going to sue you because you have some 5k views video of proprietary Miku model dancing to random song.
Technically, CFM could sue you if you use their characters to make money without their permission. What would be more realistic is that, in the case of YouTube, they'd file a copyright notice against your video to either suck up the ad revenue or just take down the video entirely. I'm not sure how active CFM is in searching for such videos and if a video only gets ~5k then they probably haven't seen it anyway. In any case, going without a license is a bigger risk in the long term. Plus, I'm not out to screw CFM.

>http://piapro.net/intl/en_for_creators.html
Yes, I've seen that link. I tried to contact CFM via Q/A #4. They basically told me they don't deal with individual artists and only work with organizations such as music labels. Perhaps I am a stupid dense fuck but I'm not sure what the appropriate music label (or organization) would even be for this. This is where I stumble.

>>16532164
Yes

>>16532325
No

>>16532318
What's your problem?

If you are afraid of CFM taking down your video, just draw Miku yourself instead of using official illustration.

>CFM could sue you if you use their characters to make money without their permission
They sue you for using OFFICIAL ILLUSTRATIONS not characters. You cannot forbid people to make fanarts.

>>16532333
Don't you think she's attractive?

>>16532164
I wonder...

>>16532355
I'll... tell you later...

>>16532355
If she's you're one and only waifu, I'll let it slide. If you just use her as fap material with no emotional attachment, fuck off.
but really it's just as autistic either way you slice it.

>>16532489
I mean, it's not like those are the only two options that exist. I don't really love her in a romantic way, but she does mean more than just being fap material to me.

>>16532489
People who truly loves Miku does not call her "fap material".

Miku is for tender loving and caring. I want to make her happy in every way I can.

>>16532318
>If you want to use image of Miku for commercial purposes, you need to make drawings on your own or use drawings you have license.

did you ignore this line on purpose?

>>16532522
Sorry, I tenderly love and care for someone else. 2D of course But I fap to Miku.

>>16532353
>What's your problem?
That I poorly articulate myself.

>>16532532
That's not how I read the piapro.net page. Look at Q4/A4.

Let me simplify.

>Miku music video
>on youtube
>with ads on
>need license because this becomes commercial
>contact CFM and they tell me they don't deal with individual artists, only music labels or similar
>don't know how to choose a music label or what is even out there

That's my issue. I'm reading the piapro.net website literally as:

>You are using Miku's image for commercial purposes? You need permission.
>Doesn't matter if you draw your own version of her; you need to ask us, CFM, for a license.

>>16532758
All the info you need has already been posted.
Re-read posts, re-read full licence, lurk more and get out of /jp/.

>>16532788
You mean the CC BY-NC license? Can you explain how ads on a youtube video is non-commercial? Can you also explain, even with a CC BY-NC license, the attached pic?

I've read what people have said. I don't see how that gets around the issues above.

>>16532522
Are you saying you don't fap exclusively to your waifu? She has needs too, you know.

>>16529583
Buy it poorfag

>>16533162

Luka is a dork

>>16533013
My waifu says it's healthy that I fap to other characters as long as I do not develop emotional attachment or "make them permanent" (fellow autists will understand what I mean by this).

>>16533013
My waifu says it's healthy that I fap to other characters as long as I do not develop emotional attachment.

>>16533013
Where did I said I don't do it?

I want to make her happy in every way I can. So obviously I want to make her feel attractive, desired and sexually satisfied. Fapping to other characters would make her feel insecure or betrayed.

>>16533784
I she Gumi?
Because that's something a cuck who say.

>>16520666

More Please.

Miku is shilling another phone.
http://www.xiaomitoday.com/exclusive-hatsune-miku-is-the-latest-spokeswoman-for-xiaomi/
It's a living.

>>16534210
>there are people who unironically buy and use Chinese phones
Yeah I'll stick with Sony. The Lamaze song is really catchy too

>>16534210
Remember when vocaloid is about music from the fans to the fans? No wonder it's dying.

>>16534227
I have a Honor 5c and it's a pretty kickass phone for the price.

>Order 4 days after Christmas
>Finally gets in

Regardless of the wait, I couldn't be more excited.

>>16534236
I blame Michie M

>>16534236
>>16534621
>let's go over the same baseless arguments again!
Doesn't it get boring to constantly preach doom all the time

>>16534210
Why does she need the money though?
Wouldn't she already be rich?

>>16534629
You don't talk shit about my 3D Husbando

>>16533815
I don't really get the logic. If you were married to someone, you can bet you'd still masturbate on your own from time to time and for sure not think of your wife doing so.

How is it different regarding your waifu? Is it because she knows it as opposed to a hypothetical 3D wife? You're respecting your waifu all the more by treating her as you would treat a 3D wife, in my opinion (of course that's a convenient excuse for me to say - still that doesn't invalidate my point).

>>16535063
I think you guys are taking this way too seriously

>>16535144
I don't think so, no one is upset I think, we're just talking. It's interesting, plus that's not the sort of discussion you could have outside of /jp/.

>>16534879
Batteries are expensive.

>>16535166
>It's interesting
it's not
>plus that's not the sort of discussion you could have outside of /jp/.
you could have it on /a/, where you and the other waifufags belong

>>16535262
Opinion heard, you can stop posting now.

>>16535270
you could as well and neither of us will

>>16535277
Because you have a dysfunctional ego and can't accept the fact that other people are discussing something you disagree with, so you are forcing your views out of sheer intolerance and narcissism. It's also unacceptable for you to leave a conversation without having the last word so you plan on derailing the thread until you feel superior enough to whoever you're engaging with. To this you will obviously some pathetic one-liner reply in hope to display how alpha and right you are. Have fun.

>>16535262
>>16535144
>4chan posters are having odd, in-depth, nearly autistic discussions
>this is somehow out of place
Pls go and stay go

>>16535063
Not him, but I(>>16533812) guess I didn't get the question right.
I don't think that any way is wrong, as long as you don't do it to degenerative porn your waifu.

When I fap to characters that aren't my waifu I do it because of some particular fetish, not because of characters themselves. I would feel bad if I was fapping to some character for no reason except that I like them. This is reserved for my wafu. On the other hand, there are fetishes I wouldn't enjoy seeing Miku in, so I use random characters I don't really care about.

>>16535295
k
you're waifu still isn't real and will never love you and you'll die alone

>>16535364
>trying to shame people
>on a degenerate butanese memo forum
You're super cool, dude. I'm sure your Facebook friends would be proud

>>16524947
you'll have to be more specific than that. genre of music, were there any other featured vocaloids, year it came out, etc. i've seen a fuckload of crayon-drawn PVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC9NiD6E55I

also you know if you still have it in your favorites, you can still click on it and it'll show you the title of the video even though it's removed.

>>16535358
I share more or less the same sentiments, anon. There are no feelings involved when I do that, it's just out of lust and fun. I do pick based on the character themselves, but it's for their body and features, not for them on an emotional level.
This is what I meant here >>16533784. After all, for most of our lives it was always natural to fap away, so I don't see why having a waifu would need to break this, I think it wouldn't be very healthy to go against your own nature (unless this is what one truly desires of course, I can't speak for everyone). Unless your waifu is Mayu, I doubt she'd want you to not feel fulfilled.

I also believe it's nice to experiment and can also indirectly have a positive effect on you and your waifu's sexual life. Personal point but 3D has been a big no for a very long time though.

>>16535364
Do I need to teach you on which board you are?

Defend this Miku-fags

>>16509589
This

>>16536187

heart disease can strike even the young. mind your diets.

>>16536203

>>16536203
I'd rather die young than live a long life with out ベーコン巻きホットドッグ

>>16536277

>>16536319
Since when are they obsessed with elongated pieces of meat?

>>16536645
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIxI1eB2-vo

>>16536645
I'm sorry.

Today was a happy day

>>16536319
Congratulations Europe, you finally got that Vocaloid live concert you always wanted.
http://www.vocaloidnews.net/vocalnexus-brings-vocamerica-to-europe/

>>16537705
Euros can't complain anymore, they finally got that concert they've been waiting for

:')

>>16537705
The true power of the western vocaloid scene is...impressive...

>>16538842
NO, NOT YUKARI TOO!

>>16538893
You can't escape the memes child

>>16538893

>>16538842
>>16538963
>>16538967
I don't understand.

>>16539012
You don't need to understand.

>>16539012
SHHHHH, No tears now it's a waste of good suffering

>>16539122
>Miku will never look at you in defiant embarrassment
Why even live?

>>16538842
>>16538963
>>16538967
>>16539122
Is there a name for this type of sweater?

>>16539922
Use reverse image search.

>>16539922
Virgin killer sweater.

>>16539950
All that gave me were shoes and anime.

>>16539960
That's amazing. Thanks.

>>16540185
Use 童貞を殺すセーター at the relevant places.

When you gauge the timing of notes in Project Diva, do you usually watch the clock hand, the prompt as it flies toward the thing, or do you mostly pay attention to the song?

>>16540394
I'm no genius at the game - although I do play on Expert (on everything that isn't FT) - but I do something between knowing the song and its rhythm/beat (important regardless of your method) and gauging the timing of the prompt and the flying symbol.

>>16540394
I usually don't use the prompt to anything but to know what button I need to press. 90% of the time knowing the pace and rhythm by listening is much more reliable, specially if the song is fast.

But there are also songs where you need to actually look at the clock. I'm thinking in slow songs like Sakura Ame, Magical Sound Shower and Beware of Miku Miku Bacteria.

>>16520083
i like this song but ghostie-p a shit

>>16540394
>>16540918
Exactly. Even knowing the timing of the songs, the slower ones get much easier if you look at the clocks. Pic related took me a lot of tries to get it right until I realised this.

>>16527690
I think Gumi is one of the better English vocaloids actually. Which is not saying much I know but at least she's understandable with some tuning and sounds ok:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t5JbAue6eY

I heard a Miku or Vocaloid song during or after the VGA's with lots of Awoo's. Any ideas ?

>>16541125
only this
https://youtu.be/sHLLFaZBWAs?t=5m49s

Growing the collection a bit at a time. Tracking down ねぎらうよっ！was a bitch, but was well worth.

>>Skirt.

That's cheating, IA.

Missing this one obvs

>>16542865
Poor Len

>>16542865
>>16542870
I want to see Rin, not Len.

>>16542930
Wish granted

Len > Rin all the way tho

>>16542982

How do you know that's not Len?

>>16543173
Cause Len is just so manly, you'd notice for sure if it was him

after playing future tone for a whole bunch, I feel as if rin is my favorite vocaloid, is there a batch of all of her songs? who makes the best stuff w/ rin?

>>16543525
Probably not since any random schmuck can buy Rin and make a song using her, as a result there's probably a thousand or two songs with her out there.

Personally, my favorite artists that use her are Junky, Karasuya-sabou, Neru and Wonderful Opportunity! (Jesus-P & Minus-P). They have all got some albums out too.

If you want to find more Rin songs though, just go to vocaDB and look for Rin songs on each of her voicebanks pages, sorting by rating (ex: http://vocadb.net/Ar/14 for her V2 voicebank, http://vocadb.net/Ar/347 for her Append Power). That should get you to a few good producers that use Rin as well.

>>16543602
thanks anon! and yeah when playing future tone I saw "Jesus-P" show up, or at least that sounds familiar, so I'll look up some more stuff

>>16543525
>All of her songs
Nah, but start with these albums:

Vocalogemini
Vocalotwinkle
Rink ～Junky x 鏡音リン THE BEST～

>>16543853
That neck

>>16543602
>probably a thousand or two
The weekly rankings alone has around 2000 songs with Rin, and that's only the tip of the iceberg.

That's a good get right there

>>16544565
nice
I've been at my favorite burger place first time in a year and got this as order number.

>>16543602
>any random schmuck can buy Rin and make a song using her
Couldn't the same be said of any vocaloid?

>>16544759
Rin is looser

>>16544759
Of course. He was talking about Rin specifically though so that's why I mentioned her.

>>16544798
The phrasing made me think he meant only Rin.

>>16544858
No one cares.

>>16544603
It's a magical number. I wonder if it's good luck.

>>16542854
IA is a good, pure girl who doesn't want to look indecent even in the virgin-killing sweater

>>16546615
>pure

Whatever helps you sleep at night

http://ecchi.iwara.tv/images/ia-model-update

>>16546756
>implying a pornmodel makes changes anything
Purest vocaloid, cutest vocaloid, my favorite vocaloid.

>>16546776
Well people are using this lewd model to sexualize your waifu and have her do all sorts of things. I'd be disturbed if someone did that to my waifu.

Indecent waifu, bland waifu, mediocre vocaloid overall. I want to feel pity for you but I can't.

>>16546810
Other people can sexualize her all they want - the model, like fanart, isn't "official" and doesn't ruin anything.

>>16546830
I can't believe it, I found the textbook definition of a cuck right here in this thread.

Wow.

>>16546856
I don't believe there's a waifu out there for whom there isn't porn

>>16546856
>I found the textbook definition
>cuck
>A man who likes watching his wife/ girlfriend fuck other guys
Are you really this retarded or only pretending?

>>16546856
Your waifu is just your interpretation of the character (because newsflash: she doesn't really exist in the physical world), it is literally impossible for a waifufag to get cucked.

>>16534227
Hey, I use an Honor 8 and it's pretty nice. Full-featured phone, sleek design, and for half flagship price.

REMINDER:
IA > your waifu

it's hard to accept but it's the truth

>>16547017
I'd defend Yuzuki Yukari's honour till I died, but no one cares about her except me anyway so I'm pretty fucked there.

Asshole.

>>16547044
bully the Yukari

I somehow got into vocaloid
how do I leave?

>>16547059
>how do I leave?
>leave

>>16547059
Just wait til it dies. Should be just around the corner.

>>16547068
this isn't some fucking joke
I've tried listening to coin locker baby dozens of times to try and put me off the habit but it's not working

everything that's not vocaloid sounds subpar to me now

>>16547087
It's too late now. You will be here. With us. Forever.

>>16547087
>this isn't some fucking joke
I wasn't joking
It's only a matter of time until you start buying Nendoroids

>>16547229
or full 1/6 scale pvc figures

speaking from experience

>>16547059
Miku is a Japanese old one there is not escape only madness.

>>16547044
You are far from the only Yukari fan around here.

>>16547053
Why would you do that?

Is Miku older on the diva arcade game?

Miku from Diva Arcade seems to be 17 years old.

Miku from console version seems to be 14 years old.

>>16547398
No, the console just has shitty models.

>>16546810
>>Indecent waifu, bland waifu, mediocre vocaloid overall.

The TryHardness of this one is off-the-charts.

>>16547647

4chan eat my pic

How do I git gud? I'm still having trouble on Normal in F2 and keep losing on Doubleganger. It's my first Project Diva game, by the way, if that helps.

>>16547658
I was pleasantly surprised to learn that the Kaguya manga designed IA - and then it became obvious when I noticed the eyes/forehead.

IA a cute.

>>16547694
Step 1 is learning the songs. It's the most essential to eventually do better, because the games play to the rhythm, obviously,

After that it comes down to timing, and practice. It's sometimes a little confusing to watch the hands on the notes, so just watch for the note to pass over/match up with its counterpart.

One of the best pieces of advice I was ever given for the game is a simple one; always know the next note, or set of notes. As in, train your eyes/mind to quickly know what's next while you're still hitting the current note.

>>16547723
mangaka* obviously

>>16547723
>IA a cute.

IA is the embodiment of perfection.
Her voice and character design are at a level where no mortal could ever hope to reach

>>16547735
This is all true, anon.

She's much too good for our imperfect world.

>>15547776
>not enough Rin in this thread
I agree but don't worry, I got this.

>>16547044

By the way, I upgraded your RAM

fucking
what

>>16548929
>it's real
Jesus

what is the best vocaloid version that integrates well with fl studio?

i am having trouble getting my version of vocaloid 4 to appear in the rewire vst

does ONE belong here?

>>16548858
T-thanks...

>>16548929
in b4 it's just another monopoly reskin except park place is replace with the ed sullivan theatre etc

A-Anon... I feel cold in my back...

>>16551157
Then put on more clothes.

>>16546756
Too bad that there's almost none good MMD videos featuring her.

>>16547053
sauce pls

>>16550315
of fucking course

ATOLS is GOAT
https://youtu.be/sEPZUVgGPi0
https://youtu.be/c31CA50Iots

>>16551432
>ATOLS
Good taste. I still listen to $149 when I'm in for a transcendental kind of feeling, even though I know the lyrics are nonsense. It helps that my native language is not english though.

https://youtu.be/i0MnZDnHUEM

Anyone else hyped for this?

>>16551432
>>16551450
ATOLS's music surely is something else.

>>16551577
No. HoneyWorks songs have developed into shit.

>>16551586
P
https://youtu.be/9cQagyGehpc

>>16551389
I don't have a sauce or name but it isn't a hard to find if you google around for Doujin's of Yukari.

>isn't hard to find Doujin's of Yukari.
Typical Yukari

>>16551787
You shut up before I tear those twintails right off your head.

>>16551787
>Yukari
literally who?

>>16551432
>>https://youtu.be/sEPZUVgGPi0

Are there more top-line MMDs for ONE?

>>16520496

>>16551976
This gorgeous gal.

>>16552035
>core cool
I love quirky shit like this. It tries to imitate a real brand by looking like it but changes a few things as to not get sued up the ass.

>>16552064
I don't see her on Crypton's website.

>>16552035
this one's alright
https://youtu.be/9Ems4_tMQvE

>>16552132
She isn't owned by CFM, she's owned by other company of which I can't recall and am too lazy to search.

>>16552158
So she's a knockoff?

>>16552132
>>16552180
Yukari is pure. She doesn't belong to that brothel called CFM.

>>16552180
APOLOGIZE TO ALL VOCALOIDS NOT MADE BY CRYPTON

>>16552132
>Crypton
Literally who?

>>16552180
I wouldn't say knockoff. She's just another Vocaloid owned by a different company.

I quit being lazy, here is who she is owned by:
http://www.vocalomakets.com/
http://www.ah-soft.com/vocaloid/yukari/index.html

Strangely, she appears on the English Vocaloid website along with Gumi in a few different flavors:
https://www.vocaloid.com/en/products/show/v4l_yuzuki_yukari_lin_en
https://www.vocaloid.com/en/products/show/v4l_yuzuki_yukari_onn_en
https://www.vocaloid.com/en/products/show/v4l_yuzuki_yukari_jun_en

Not sure why CFM Vocaloids aren't there but whatever.

>>16551600
Even though I don't agree with you, this album has great songs out already. Don't be like that.

>>16552228
That looks like a Neptune to me.

>>16552759
I've seen some other very Neptune-y Yukari pictures. Has Tsunako been know to draw vocaloids too?

>>16552670
No he's right, Haniwa is trash.

>>16552759
Yeah, I agree but I don't have many pics of Yukari saved.

>>16552759
Check out this nep.

AY YO HOL UP
*SMACKS LIPS*
SO U B SAYING
*SIPS LEAN*
U B SAYIN WE WUZ
*SUCKS TEETH*
WE WUZ VOCALOIDS N SHEIT?

>>16553021
Fuck cyber diva and cyber songman. Could they possibly look anymore boring than they already are.

>>16553024
they're targeted to western producers
a moe mascot is not needed or wanted

>>16553028
>they're targeted to western producers
Yeah, I know. Westerners can only handle "rad", "cool" and "dark" art styles. Cute kills them.

>>16553040
Or maybe they're cash in on the relatively recent synthwave/retrowave craze, and thought cyber theme with pink and blue was the way to go.

>>16553058
A little of column a, a little of column b.

It's well documented that the West, in general, can't stand cute things. Cute doesn't fly here.

Look at the old-but-true example of Kirby game covers.

>>16553040
>Westerners can only handle "rad", "cool" and "dark" art styles. Cute kills them.
that's just the difference in cultures

I really like the Yamaha demos

https://soundcloud.com/vocaloid_yamaha/rinse-repeat-by-crusher-p-vocaloid4-library-cyber-songman-official-demonstration-song
https://soundcloud.com/vocaloid_yamaha/fighter-by-yusukekira-vocaloid4-library-cyber-songman-official-demonstration-song

>>16553067
No angry face could make Kirby less cute. I really doubt they would make any extra sales just by making him angry. I think marketers are just kind of dumb.

>>16553068
Western culture sucks.

>>16553109
y?

>>16553121
Not enough waifus.

>>16553121
Many reasons.

The first being the fact that you think it's okay to type like that.

>>16553138
agreed

>>16553109
Western culture has really gone down hill recently. If only there were some way we could make it great again.

>>16553180
what is western culture anyway?
but before that, what is culture and what makes it good?

the only thing I can think of when I try and think of western culture is coca-cola, nukes and aircraft carriers

>>16553180
>make it great again
I hate you.

>>16553024
>A FUCKING SWORD

>>16553193
I'm no expert on history or whatever you'd need to know about this sort of thing, but I think culture is largely defined by tradition. Western cultures, especially highly industrialized ones, tend to greatly value individualism, so it's nigh impossible to pinpoint something as western culture.

>>16547723
>>16547694
A bit of an update, I've been playing some more to unlock more outfits and improve. I can now do some songs like Love Hate and Colorful x Melody on Hard, but certain songs like Doubleganger and Kagerou Daze still give me trouble on Normal. Both Doubleganger Normal and Colorful x Melody are 5star difficulty, but something about the former feels a lot harder to me. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or why I'm so bad at certain songs, should I just keep playing them over and over until I finally beat them, or should I just skip to other songs?

>>16553193
>>16553206
I feel like 'westerners don't have a distinct culture' is something only westerners could say.

>>16553490
These kinds of things are definitely easier to see from the outside, but in the case of America, I think there's some weight to the statement. I live in a small town in California, and I'm certain my lifestyle and values differ greatly from the average person in like Arkansas or New York or something.

>>16553503
As someone who is not american, I can definitely identify an "american" culture when looking at the country as a whole from an outsider's view. You guys all listen to the same pop artists, dress in the same brands' clothes, watch the same TV shows, read the same books, have the same constitution, federal laws, etc.

Compare this to, like, China and Japan, which are much closer together than the US east coast and west coast, but are just that much more different. Or even individual european countries.

I'm sure if you look at it from even further away, like from the eyes of a native asian person, you will be able to see some underlying traces of a "western culture" - after all, we do all share a lot of things in common due to globalization and all that, which we take for granted since for us it's just everyday stuff.

>>16553704
That's not entirely true. My entire life was Unlimited Blade... err, /jp/ shit, for a lot of my mid teens to early twenties.

If someone referenced anything about American culture I was likely to be completely lost.

Still, you have a fair point.

>>16550529

Can someone translate whats begin said in pic related?

>>16554049
Wish I was at home...

>>16553478
I usually give the songs 3 chances in a row. If I don't do good after the third try I skip the song and try later.

My reasoning is: I usually do a lot better in the second try than the first but the third try does not feel any better than the second. Keep trying after three times looks useless unless I'm chasing a Perfect.

>Still no news about FT's third DLC pack or SEGA's intention to sell a second season pass

>>16554381
I'd bet they release it on March 9th for obvious reasons.

>>16529487
Considering we're posting on /jp/, I can bet nobody else here cares about chinkloids. I agree that the Chinese vocaloid scene is still in it's infancy, but that what makes it interesting, producers are still experimenting with the format and there's a wide range of music styles coming out
some of my faves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2rLIx0LEtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnZWVgn8fwY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrrUKUw5i_M&t=9s

>>16554896
>obvious reasons
?

>>16555445
it's Miku day
3/9

>>16555445
How can you be this secondary?

>>16553478
I'm sure youu realize it, but it's absolutely essential that you can use both the buttons and the D-pad with equal skill and speed, and that you can switch between the two quickly, one after the other.

If you can't, practice solo with the one your weakest with until you git gud.

>>16510423
I want to say Chika but I'm not even sure if people know she exists.

>there are only 6 vocaloids
9 or 10 if you stretch, including Gumi, IA, Gakupo and Yukari

New thread >>16560115

>>16560119
too soon

>>16555087
Yeah I figured that very little people here care about non-Japanese vocaloids, but it's still nice to see at least one other person who likes Chinese vocaloids.

And thanks for posting those links, I hadn't heard those songs before! I've got a lot of favorites so I'll just post a bunch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IepQWPmZcbI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR1ASnv5yrY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2UTMAtYoQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8NFgAQS-zI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp9eXHs1J2I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOuN52Ya2po
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoRPqweL_0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHbcp4DfrlI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJBZkUESsyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKhzn4zh8No
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPm-Cpgg-_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5clmS_J6NnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-CnJEiuklA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBQESA_CZfU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQfbw6fq8x4