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Gwen farm

>be golem
>can still be dimmed from starting enemies

Nice

Anyone know where I can find these evochat portraits? They're not in the pastebin.

>>18639114
Is that muramasa PCC private? if its public,may i save it anon?

>>18639160
it's not mine, it's someone else's, which is what I'm trying to find.

>>18639114
>>18639160
Those are Kai's so he'd be the one to ask.

Why cant nightmare res-reduction scale with spell levels? Even at 150 chaos eye + nightmare I still only hit 200~ on level 100 enemies.

I'm not sure why people are having problems getting 8 magic vendors. I got them within a couple of minutes of redecorating my palace to look like an estate. Are you people renaming your magic vendors? Because if you don't that might be the cause of your difficulties. Well that's 14 magic vendors invested in for me.

>>18639114
They're not located in the pastebin. I directly ripped them from the VN and got some of the other pics from other sources. Then I cleaned up the images to make them work with Elona. Probably could find the pics if you do a google search though.

>>18639160
I made that PCC from editing another PCC in the chinese modpack.

>>18639307
I renamed my magic vendor the day I got him. Now it's 30 days later and every time I check the board it's always maid blacksmith and informer and I don't ever see it change.
I even fired my maid and hired a new one just to see if the list would update - it didn't.

>>18639307
Ah well, thanks for responding! I'm gonna use this girl instead.

>>18639326
Strange, well what I did was check the board every day. The board should refresh daily with possible new hires. The troublemaker for me that needed to be renamed was some female magic vendor Caza something. After I renamed her all I had to do was just keep checking the board because it was instantly filled with another magic vendor of the same name which I just kept renaming until I got all 8.

>>18639333
>Big titted elf
>drawn_by_loli.jpg

>>18639386
Reminds me of loliconder who draws lots of Senrans

As a tanky dwarf wielding a 2h axe I have no trouble dealing with higher level dungeons on my own and it is a fairly comfy experience. However, I decided to bring a ranged ally and a rogue wizard waifu both of which are excellent support in heavily packed rooms.

What isn't comfy is the fact that these dumbos run into packs of vicious monsters and end up getting murdered on every other floor, they snap like twigs and stand no chance against rooms of +20 hounds. Protecting them is such a chore, is it worth the trouble? I kind of liked their company but they're tedious to deal with

>>18639415
They should seldom die if you outfit them properly. They need defense and resists just like you do. You want to give them all skills with the gene machine (pickpocket high priority), and give them good material gear with as many resists and as high a + as possible.

Is there a way to get skill points for my Allies?

I wish every nonhostile NPC had Gwen's level up mechanic

>>18639529
Can gwen become stronger than a inner god eventually?

>>18639655
Wouldn't have the unique special actions of one though.

>>18639307
How did you turn your palace into an estate? If I can keep my cozy home but have the vendors of the palace I'll do it.

>>18639698
All I did was turn the top half of the palace map into forest tiles, loaded up a picture of the estate on the wiki to use as reference, and built the estate on the southern part of the map using the default tiles available in house editing. If I ever need to expand I'll just knock down some tree tiles and build in that space. Can do something similar with the cozy house I imagine.

Are inner gods supposed to be the real deal gods or just really powerful avatars?

>>18639787
If you kill the inner form of a god the game says you're the godslayer. So probably but the game doesn't exactly acknowledge the god is dead due to reasons not forthcoming. Probably so it doesn't break the story or something.

>>18639835
That would be funny,NPC that worshipped that god go full hostile on you

>>18639787
>>18639835
It's an avatar. You can kill physical manifestations, but that's as far as it goes.
I mean you can rematch them as much as you like and they don't exactly hold a grudge.

>>18639655
>>18639669
>>18639669
I'm going to make it my goal to give Gwen every inner god special action so that she can truly become the Eternal League of Nefia(TM)

I have something to confess, I cheated my karma from -69 to -10

>>18640705
Should have confessed to the nun in Noyel. She pardons people if you have the gold for it. The laws apply differently to the rich apparently.

>>18640841
The price was around 150k, which is just way too much for me right now.

What do with rods of wishing?
Use them like a normal wish?

Ah yes, the subtle difference between a leash and a lash. My bad, dear.

>>18641061
Yes, Then keep them for a slim chance of more wishes with fill charge.

>>18641068
Wish rods cannot be recharged.

>>18641061
no, you use them to wish for an altar at your home

>>18641156
No need to wish for an altar, just steal them from the tower of fire or palmia

>>18641232
that's assuming you have enough strength to steal a 300s item
Usually by that time you don't even need an altar

>>18641247
>>18641232

Altar is not owned in tower of fire. You only need enough strength to return with it (stay below 200% encumberance) . Gem+Hero buffs help here.
A couple of blessed flying scrolls help with it. A dozen of Flying scrolls make it portable so you'll never have to bother with returning home to [O]ffer.

>>18641285
Or you could just give it to the golden knight

>>18641297
Or you could avoid getting an otherwise useless pet and just use a couple of potions randomly dropped along the way.

>>18641300
Please don't insult my dad's wife

>>18641433
>having a weightlifter instead of a wife
You've had a pretty rough childhood, huh?

>>18641433
Talk about dads and dad's wives.

Anyone spindled his waifu just to re-marry her as an inheritance on descendant?

>>18641478
Marrying your own mom is weird anon

Got one shot by titan at lv33 for 600 some damage. Any way to avoid smash ground? Got wings and float does nothing.

>>18641636
>cant even tank 600 damage as melee
boost your con or stop melee.

>>18641585
Before I realized it, all 5 generations of my loss chars had the same pet as a wife.

It was a tranny Karata.

>>18641647
Please elaborate, anon. Does con reduce damage from titan's special ability? Teleporting away and throwing nightmare at it rolls the dice to get a titan hug each time. Instructions unclear, got dick stuck in your mum.

>>18641636
MP Barrier, Contingency spell, Metal Guard maybe, get more CON/HP.

>>18641752
CON increases your HP, silly.

Since its ground smash is supposed to deal phys damage 'reduces physical damage' equipment may help a bit? Probably. Never tested it myself.
Anyway go do some farming, you are a whimp.
then oneshot titans with Violent Garden

>>18641752
Opatos' secret gift can give you a flat -10% on top of your PV, too. If you have the patience.

>>18641762

>>18641756

:< Was afraid of having to grind more. That smash ground and squeeze (from other monsters) do a lot of damage for the 550 HP I'm at and was hoping they compared attacker con vs player con.

Thanks very much . I'm going to wipe the titan smeg off and get back to it.

>>18641875
At this level a shitton of monsters start dealing 300-1000 ranged damage with gravity spheres and you'll meet lovely cockatrices who'd rape your brain before you could even start thinking how to deal with this.

>>18642000
I hate how you are forced to use throw/ranged weapons even as a pure melee otherwise shit like that stone chicken auto kills you

>>18642524
No as a pure melee you are forced to get sufficient tank to be able to faceroll enemies.

>>18642537
Pure tank wont save you from instant kill abilities like death word

>>18640660
>Eternal League of Nefia(TM)

What is exactly the joke/meaning of that phrase?

Do religious abilities and items stay with you if you switch gods? I want to swap over to Lulwy and get the gemstone of godspeed, But I already have Ehekatl's cat. Can I have both at once? Will the gem still work if I stop worshiping Lulwy later?

Fair weather follower, That's me.

>>18642549
>Pure tank
never mentioned pure tanks
>instant kill abilities like death word
Death word gives you friggin 20 turns to kill the caster, 'instant' my ass.
>>18642600
Abilities - no, items, pets and feats - yes.

>>18642600
Yes,i think only some feats and god passives do stay/dont stay

the wiki isn't very specific about which ones do though

>>18642524
You're not forced to use anything, and as a pure melee you should have shadow step long before encountering cockatrices.

>>18642617
Wiki shows god's ability, like
>Abilities

> Prayer of Jure: Heal self, based on Will.
And shows attribute bonuses.
>Bonus Formulas
Those are the only things you lose upon switching a god

>>18642624
Isnt getting into melee range of those EXACTLY what you wanna avoid?

>>18642633
Say,what about feats? like opatos damage reduction or jure sanity heal? i think they stop working if you switch,no?

>>18642642
Nah man, you should already have some nerve resistance and resist paralysis by the time you fight those so all you need to do is whack them.

>>18642650
>>18642612

>>18642660
Wait,so i can combina ehekatl <Generates quality stuff around you> with yacatect increased drop rate?

>>18642680
yep.

>>18639045
Saki is really, really, really, really, really quite adorable.
I want to give her hugs and headpats.
That is all.

Vampiric drain is not costing Sp for me,for some reason

>>18642961
It recovers small amount of sp during drain.

>>18642992
Its literally not dropping,at all

>>18643058
I recall it used to increase sp.

>>18643085
Hold on a second,you mean a spamable close range skill that heals you has infinite uses? might as well make it be 0 SP

>>18643090
It recovers a little bit more than uses. Around 1-2sp, depending on a roll.
Its the best skill for early game but it stops dealing sufficient damage very fast.

>>18643103
It's great early on for quick enemies like bells, But sleep touch is, too and stays a little more useful.

>>18643161
Sleep touch cant heal. Healing is a major issue on first levels.

>>18642747
Totally agree.

I took a quest to deliver an item and I didn't realize that it was a super heavy tub, dropped it and left it in town. Now i'm getting -15 karma penalties multiple times out of nowhere and the quest hasn't canceled itself out yet. Is this normal?

>>18644481
its not normal

use inferior material scroll on bathtub to turn it into paper?

What damage scales faster between two handed and barehanded? good claws are hard to come by unlike claymores

>>18644812
twohanded
barehanded means no claws btw. instead of claws use tonfas if needed.

>>18644827
Thats the issue,tonfas are like uber rare,there are only 4-5 in the game and there is only ONE in north tyris

I am not sure in what use the small medals first once i start,either elements eyes,the tonfa,something else? i already get yacatect epic coin to see invisible enemies

>>18644812
Martial Arts' damage dice is based on the skill level only (claws/tonfas only adds bonus values), while Two-Hand's damage dice is based on your weapon (skill adds bonuses if the weapon is considered "heavy", 4.0s or above).
Martial Arts is slower because you can "easily" craft a living weapon and and get 10 levels of magic/elemental damage on it, while MA have to rely on weak claws or the unique-only tonfas until you get enough skill levels to make it strong without weapons.

>>18644844
Shield Tonfa is useful for any build since you can put it in your ranged slot when you need extra defensive stats, but you can save your medals for the void explorer if you don't know what you really want to get.

>>18644844
tonfas are dropped by specific npcs for the most part

>>18644963
Which most,or all,are predators who one shot you

except the very last one,you gotta astral light pen her to get it

>>18645092
Summon god, let the god rape this npc.

>>18645120
I don't think that summoned gods will murder friendly NPCs just because you asked nicely.

>>18645120
>summon a god to deal with a woman wielding a tonfa

pathetic

>>18645445
I summoned a god to deal with an angry doggo.

>>18645445
you mean broken NPC with stats close to 1k?

>>18645521
git stronk and beat it normally like with most powerful npcs? dont be a bitch

>>18645532
By this time you wont need tonfas, though. Barehanded would be stronger.

>>18641156
>>18641232
Or Crypt of the Damned.

Is Juere a bad race just because it cant eat your powerfarmimg food as often? sounds like a silly reason to label it as bad

tried to make my own sprite for evochat, but the game didn't detect it. did i miss something?
black bg, file type bmp(24 bit), 300x500
pic related

>>18646962
You put them in user\graphic2 with the appropriate names?

>>18646981
yes i put them in the right place.
>appropriate names
do i need to put _A or something behind it? i just put it plainly as face14. do i need make another version of it because i only make one sprite

>>18647078
Yes, you need those letters. Just copy the image a bunch of times if you need to.

So... is it cannibalism when you eat monster girls?

>>18647107
ah thank you anon

>>18646789
It's not a bad race just not optimal according to some people. Certainly can work around the food thing if you're willing. Should also put it out there that Juere isn't the only race that can harvest more things from those resource spots in dungeons. Goblins can do so too. Poor Gobby. Everyone forgets you're a playable race and one of the default races too.

Some good anon that can make me a sprite of this golem? And of the loli also if possible, to replace the little girl

Help, I can't use custom portraits on my pets.

>>18647561
me neither
I think its a bug in current version

>>18647193
Maybe, but if you want to play it safe just eat the monster part and discard the girl part (or keep it for recreational purposes).

>>18647193
I play as a dragon girl,eating every corpse is my goal,even big daddy

>>18648942
Any way to avoid the taco shits when eating a machine/golem corpse?

>>18649017
I said corpses not raw weapons!

I cant decide between two handed or dual wield,any short list of pros/cons?

>>18649209
Endgame dual wield requires you to be a mutie or engineer yourself 4-6 hands with 2-3 arms. This means a speed debuff and being restricted to only rubynus gloves with highest to-hit bonus.
On the upside, you deal huge damage, gain tons of resists and other effects from your variety of weapons, trigger more absolute piercings/extra attack/interlock mechanism and other proc effects more often, and likely have more sources of elemental damage and the associated effects

Two-hand has none of that, but you have better accuracy and suffer less against enemies with extremely high PV, aren't limited in gloves and don't suffer the speed penalties

>>18649284
Aw shit,i guess a normal human using two hands doesn't cut it

big dick sword it is

>>18649297
Normal human may work as well, they dont get penalty to extra attacks so you can get up to 8 attacks total with 2 weapons. 4 hands would give something like 9-10, i think?
DW benefits immensely from invokes (especially chaos ball).
2 chaos ball invoke weapons, ether disease that increases damage dealt, a few buffs, possibly uncontroll on top and you are plenty strong just like that. Ball invokes are surprisingly good when you try to clear rooms. filled with mobs.

>>18649321
Dual timestop works too, unlike in TH case you dont lose much damage during timestopped turns. (You cannot get maximum crit multiplier from extra weight for DW, but TH doesnt have this limitation. During timestop you never miss but could not crit.)

>>18649321
>>18649346
Should i rush diablos and lucky dagger as a start to dual wield?

>>18649463
early on its pretty much the best you can get, so yeah

>>18649463
more like rankis and diablo, you will need a few flying scrolls to make them light enough, though.

>>18649463
>>18649583

you can also use shena's panty as melee weapon.

Are the Shield skill's bonuses good enough to compensate the inferior damage output compared to Dual Wield and Two Hand? Heavy weapons still have the crit damage based on weight even if I equip a shield, right?
I'm looking for ways to improve my survival chances in loss mode but I don't know if all that extra PV will keep me alive efficiently compared to the good'n'old "kill it before it kills you" strategy.

>>18651191
Yes you still get crit damage and extra attack, you also use martial arts damage bonuses properly. Whether its worth it or not its up to you. In general you lose around half damage. If you have pets its a good strategy. Pets scale damage much faster than PC in general. Shield not only gives pretty big PV bonus, but you get access to several artifacts with extremely good protection - damage nullify/phys reduction/anti-crit.
Sword&board builds fall behind around the end of act2 due to many heavy damage spacts that dont use PV in calculations, but you'll have higher chance to survive predator's attacks.

>>18651226
>you also use martial arts damage bonuses properly
That is good to know. You still get up to four attacks with shields, right?
I guess MA+Shield would be a better choice, since I can just drop my shield to get extra damage output (without worrying about my possibly low DW/TH levels).

>>18651484
Yep you still get 4 extra attacks iirc.
MA is pretty good since you can even go dual shield without losing damage.
However i'm not so sure about buffs/spacts that require barehanded. I think attribute and grenade attack wont work at all (Attribute alone gives a huge chunk of damage for MA)

I forgot he can hit for over 10k damage. RIP.

>>18651772
Did you use old version? As of 1.69 mana burst only deals damage based on remaining mana. Easiest way to deal with this is simply burn it before he is low.

After taking a trawl through the house servant code, watching Kai's latest video and doing some experimenting, it seems each house vendor type has a very limited pool of names to draw from. Each time they refresh, if a vendor with the same name is on the map already, it gets skipped over. Meaning to get more than 2-3 magic vendors, you need to rename the ones you get. This also helped me deduce why closing the board and opening a gain would only cycle between 2 or 3 vendor types (ie blackmarket -> goods)

>>18652041
Time to upgrade to palace now that it's better understood why I couldn't get more than 2.

>>18652146
Yeah on my last character I spent around 200 hours not understanding why and thought it was some balancing mechanism ano put in at some point. I've been more agressive with looking at and trying to understand the code recently so this was a decent exercise in jumping around labels and such to find where i needed to look.

>>18651632
I just tested it, you still can use Attribute, Clear Mind and Grenade Punch with dual shields. Apparently you only lose MA's Explosion attack, Shield Bash is used when you use Gauge Release.

>>18644925

>Move the shield tonfa on my bell of emergency to her range slot so I can free up the fourth hand slot and opt-in for another lightsaber.
>She starts throwing the tonfa at the enemy like it's a shuriken.

Any idea as to how I can get around this problem? I tried using custom AI and make it specifically do melee attacks and provoke but she still throws the tonfa.

>>18653115
Give it ammo, for some reason they can't throw things if their ammo slot is filled.

>>18653115
you sure you switched it off default ai onto custom? all regular ai stuff should be off if custom ai is on for it, so that's weird if its throwing without being told

>>18653115
>>18653248
If I recall that's a hardcoded thing NPCs do whenever facing a thorny enemy.

>>18653280
shouldn't matter if it's hardcoded. I can go check the code, but i'm pretty sure custom ai disables all regular ai routines during combat- all of them.

>>18653154
The player cant either

>>18653292
I exclusively use custom ai, and I can confirm that all of my melee pets start throwing their statstick panties at thorny enemies instead of their melee attack.
They never do this at range, though. They walk/shadowstep into melee distance and throw instead of melee.

Is the kind anon that delivers PCC here? i dont know if i should request something,i dont wanna be a bother to someone on the internet

>>18653154

I am surprised that works. Thanks, mate.
It's a bit troublesome when you want to grind living weapons and the bell starts throwing stuff instead.

I suppose ranged weapon is disabled when ammo doesn't match the weapon in ranged slot, even if it's a throwable. Just a wild guess, though.

>>18653248

I toggled it to custom already. It's all right, though. The others already explained what's what.
Also, I am pretty sure I am just inept at making routines for custom AI. I made it so that the bell only does melee attacks and nothing else. But my bell still tell her enemies to go jump off a bridge and that their parents never loved them.

>>18654196
May i ask why a bell of termination instead of say,a quickling?

Any way to move museum/ranch/shop?

>>18654223

I am using Bell of Emergency, though. Since I managed to ball it. I only met Termination once and that one got roflstomped by my bell before I could do anything. I haven't thought of the prospect of balling/dominating a quickling.

I just got into the game and I have been reading/testing things out as I play. But now that you mentioned quicklings; fuck those grass killers. They dialled my number the most when others couldn't. Even my usual tactic of dealing with these low HP scum (Read: [T]hrow a bronze coin at them) doesn't work.


Thus far, I am content with just the bell. It solo'd Meshera alpha and ended her before either of us could do anything.

>>18654367
no. you can only remove by picking it up.

>a simple quest to kill slimes in the cellar
>some blue fucker kills me with his acid in 2 hits
This is one of those games, huh...

>>18655031
This particular quest is a noob trap.

>>18655031
Just wait for the remove cat from premises quest and being too low-level to wrap it up quickly.

>>18642590
Elona is an acronym, my dude.

>>18652041
since the code stupidly checks the user-modifiable names against a set list, you can tilt this even further in your favor.

you just have to rename your vendors to the same names as non-magic vendors. this decreases the chance of them spawning, which in turn increases the chance of magic vendors spawning.

is it gay if I marry Kumiromi?

>>18655031

Boy. Watch the maze.

>>18647306
Goblins and Fairies are the races I play the most, though I usually just farm my way through the early game by default since fighting early on is a pain and you need to beeline to herbs at some point.

>>18655031
Bring a ranged weapon, then when there's an ordinary white putit hitting you in that hall way, shoot the blue slime to death. Makes clearing that quest way easier.

>>18655862
No. I can confirm because that's my long-term goal. my short-term goal is to marry a fox brother. and i'm not even gay.

This is a replacement for the time being i guess,hopefully i can get the real thing someday

>>18656706
A cat is fine too

I just got a Rod of wishing, what should i do? i read the wiki's recommendations but nothing really stood out, i don't see how an Altar is worth it since i live beside Palmia and i'm not too far away from the Truce Grounds. I'm also level 20, so it would be a while for the Astral Pen and Domination Rod to be worth.

>>18656716
seven league boots, shift core, astral pen is useful to have in case you ever stumble upon a named npc you like, a god you want the last gift of.

>>18656716
Astral pen for karata if you want the most broken pet

A core or anything you might need otherwise

Are defenders always boys?

>>18656830
No. It's random. I found that out the hard way.

>>18653812
Hi

>>18656845
Huh, took me some tries but you're right

wew

>>18656731
>>18656734
I think i'll just get an astral pen.

>>18656913
Not bad.

>>18656900
Ah. So you had the reverse problem I did. Literally the only thing I have save scummed for.

How do I melee Ungaga and not die?

>>18657079
He is not even that strong, whats your problem?

>>18657092
crits for 500 dmg
I only have 500 HP

>>18657079
You're probably going in at the recommended level and getting shit on by RNG. An unlucky damage roll+crit can do a lot of damage out of nowhere. Half the time he doesn't hit, but when he does, you risk a high/low damage&prot roll with a several times crit multiplier backing it up.

Look on the bright side, you're only a handful of levels away from spawning in the really bullshit enemies that make Ungaga seem like a cakewalk.

>>18657356
get better armor, ++ and bless it
use shield
level up
get better stats by farming/mining
the usual.

>>18657356

TBQH, Ungaga has awful accuracy. Just keep feather up and have +6 armor in all slots and you probably won't ever get hit. "Probably" is an awful lot to risk, but point is you probably don't have to autistic grind up too much more to put him in the ground if you're at 500 HP.

>>18657466
His axe got +700 to crit bonus and is quite heavy. Non-crit attacks can be ignored without feather anyway.
Higher PV is the key.

>>18656913

What's the best way to get gold. Cargo seems to be slow going.

>>18657543
Selling stuff via shop. Blessed Waste art, dropped miracle equipment changed to expensive material types with scrolls, high-level potions and food made of high + ingredients or high grade fish.

How big is the HP drain for lv15 weapons? Is it manageable to cook large batches of food with it on?

he deserved it but I wonder how it happened

If i wanted to make a warmage dual wielding is a bad idea right?

>>18657564
So a General Shop or corresponding shop to what I sell?

>>18657656
general shop for waste art/flowers/golden acorns/gems, corresponding for the rest.

>>18657676
Thank you.

>>18657631
Dual wield drops all non-100% spells for me down by 31% cast success rate and seems to hard cap it at 86% success in light armor with dual wield.

Nice.
Background is perfect too. I only had to edit age and alias.

Do custom faces no longer work on NPC?

>>18657777
That is perfect, good job anon.
Don't remember what were her stats like in the show though.

These faces still work on main chars
But when i try to put in on pet...

>>18657879
Godlike stats except int, which was below average

>>18657896
This happens.
I have no idea why. It was working perfectly on 1.71

>>18657901
Confirm if the portrait is working by checking your pet's profile with an Informer on adventurer guilds.
Remember that portraits on talk menu always "disappear" if Atmosphere mode is active for that pet.

>>18657981
Ok it is there... but i don't remember activating this mode. How do i turn it off? What is this mode even?

>>18657996
"Change the Atmosphere" option on your pet's Talk menu.
It replaces the normal portrait with full "VN-sized" pictures of your choice. You can use multiple pictures for a single character, each one represents a different emotion. It's mostly for evochat, but it also affects the talk menu.
The game have two sample sets, putit and fox brother. Try it out, or just turn it off.

>>18657901
What version? I'm playing 1.75 and I noticed that my pet's portrait works fine IF i'm not using a full body portrait. Just kinda shrugged when I noticed it thinking well why does she need to have a portrait displayed when the full body is being displayed? However if you're not getting either that's not good to hear.

>>18658032
Well it doesn't work. I downloaded clean 1.76fix and there is no portrait there too. Even if i go to "Change the Atmosphere" option and set to (no setting) it still won't show the portrait. It does work fine with "VN-sized" pictures, but normal portrait just doesn't show up.

>>18658053
I am getting full body ones. Version 1.76fix.

>>18658057
Other people have reported having this problem, this seems to be a new bug since 1.76 after the portrait settings were changed to allow more evochat images. I'm still on 1.75 and do not have this problem. Sounds like you will have to either wait until the next fix or restore a backup

>>18658074
I noticed your portrait is under u23. Does that mean you're named it face23.bmp? I think the wiki makes mention that the game supports 9 custom portraits so maybe try making it like face3.bmp and see if it works?

>>18658057
>>18658074
I think there is a bug with 1.76fix

>>18658057
>>18658074
Make a new folder with the vanilla 1.76fix files, no mods except that custom portrait. Use your save or create a new one in this vanilla game and test the portrait again.

>>18658127
I did so already. It doesn't work.

>>18658131
Welp. I can't test my portraits right now but I guess 1.76fix is bugged, or possibly really hates your portrait of choice.

>>18658141
I tested it with multiple portraits. It seems to be a bug.

>>18658120
I think this bug removed lots of other things from your poor little girl.

Should i get used to just have a single sprite PCC instead of a complete set? seems odd the player is the only thing with several sprites

And i cant find a complete set of sprites for the things i want

>>18658261
The issue with pet PCCs is that they simply teleport around instead of moving properly like player.

>>18658275
no no no,i mean the player,all the sprites behind a single one like all NPC/pets

>>18658261
If you want to do it, turn "smooth scroll" off if you don't want to see your single-frame hero sliding his way to victory.

>And i cant find a complete set of sprites for the things i want
Elona's customization potential is a double-edged sword.

>>18658294
All the sprites being a single static one*

>>18658308
>Turns smooth scroll off
>suddenly go uber fast compared to it on if i hold down the directional key

What the hell

>>18658321
That's the auto-run feature, character will run faster but won't interact with NPCs on touch if you "bump" on them. This feature also works with smooth scroll mode, it's harder to notice it because it looks more "natural".
You can customize auto-run on options menu too.

Well damn, I thought I can spam arena for at least a day longer.

>>18658452
>Player deals a wimpy 100 ish
>Pet hulk smashes for 4000+

Balanced

Does anyone else have a 'cheat' file (debug races and overdose or anything else) to screw around or take a break from your main character?

>>18658468
My PC is a mage.
still deals only 1k damage with spells though

>>18658261
I started doing that ages ago.

I'm surprised that puppy cave is completely worthless for leveling high lv living weapons. This particular one was at 3% after pet arena master died, then I killed around a hundred of trash mobs in puppy cave. Result: 1%, as you can see.
In pet arena it took around 200 lv100 kills for lv11>12.

>>18658607
why do you need that much cooking skill?

>>18658616
lv200 cooking for 2 extra dishes.

>>18658616
At 100 and 200 cooking you'll produce 1/2 extra prodcts everytime you cook something. Useful for makingm orem oney, or some people like to start cooking tons of little sisters and inheriting them so they get high life/mana on a character without the penalty present.

>>18658477
I usually test how certain features works (elosnack, wizard mode, savescumming) on my main character because I was too lazy to make a new character and unlock act 3 again. At some point I forgot to reload my save after some random tests, and I ended up with a wizard file full of wacky stats on pets, piles of trash from F5 wish spam and a terrible addiction to savescumming.
Now my main save file is my cheat file.

>>18658626
>some people like to start cooking tons of little sisters and inheriting them so they get high life/mana on a character without the penalty present.

>>18658626
>start cooking tons of little sisters

>>18658674
I did it, not worth it in my humble imho.
60 meals only resulted in 15 life/mana.
It's nothing to laugh at, but it's not impressing either.

>>18658696
You simply didnt use enough salt, pepper and soy sauce.

>>18658696
I mean, I think it's mainly used for inheriting into a mutant anyway, where you can use every last bit of life for getting a good setup of limbs from gavela. Anyway, you just encouraged me to look at the code: the chance of getting life from a little sister corpse is the following:

square life, add 1, take a ranomd value from 0 to the result. IF it's lower than 4000, add 1 life. Same For mana, except it squares mana. So you have a lower chance the more life you get, even though the base is already terrible odds. Thanks ano.

>>18658723
That will teach those monsters to eat little sisters!

>>18658723
that's what you get for eating innocent creatures

>>18658723
It still works extremely well for mutants since you are down to ~1-20life when adding hands. I've used several dozens of little sister steaks, saved me a plenty from a few hours of lv2 dungeon diving in hunt for big daddies.

>>18658747
Wait,can big daddy spawn in the puppy cave?

>>18658747
yeah thats why i said it was mostly for mutants, the odds are terrible at "normal" health values, but mutants can get super low due to their good playstyles
>>18658758
no, they dont spawn in respawning dungeons like puppy/void

>>18658758
You can reset dungeon levels once you get to south tyris, then simply return to north tyris for dungeon respawn. However, since you can get to ST only be beating lesimas, deepest dungeon level will always stay at least at deepest lesimas level.

>>18658696
Say you get 1500 tickets per party time (achievable at moderately high performer levels), you'd need to do 23/24 quests per hero cheese. Do that five times and you get 15 life (3 per cheese). Repeat it for the mana, for a total of 230-240 quests for a fifteen life+mana increase. Which is a lot, but considering the massive amount of quests any given player does throughout the game it doesn't sound that bad. I'm not sure what time investment we're talking here to get to 1000 life/mana but there must be ways to get even more tickets and complete the quests faster

>>18658792
Is the ticket giveout depending on the points gathered or a certain skill/stat?

>>18658792
I'm pretty sure the ideal strat is using gem power/sexy dance. Atleast, on my last char it was hitting higher ticket counts as it relies solely on charisma rather than performer, and it takes less turns and stamina than ensemble/instruments I think. 1000 life/mana isnt going to come easily at all, its always going to be a huge timesink. Havent seen much higher than maybe 2k for ticket output.

Kinda weird tht little sisters have such shitty odds though, kinda removes any contest of the entire save/kill thing they tried to mimic from bioshock- atleast killing them there laways gave an immediate reward.

>>18658806
points gathered. points depend on npc level. there was detailed explanation in previous thread, related to ensemble.

>>18658817
It seems that you need average attract*3 turns to max out tickets if you can satisfy public on every check, thus longer preach/perform(60t) and ensemble(120t) are simply waste of time unless you farm drops.
Well since you still can get a few points for lv500 spirit summons you may get more tickets per party time? Didnt try yet.

>>18658842
yeah spirit summons at every level up to including 500 are good, I usually spam it till no more come out at the start, then satisfy them. They just cap out now and are less broken than they use to be

How good are god race stat grow?
I do feel myself a bit overpowered, but i'm playing mage so i guess soon my ass is gonna be handled to me.
Oh and apparently gods cannot wear any armor. Welp, nothing that gene-engineering can't fix.

>>18657774
>hard cap it at 86% success in light armor with dual wield.
I'm pretty sure only medium-heavy armor and shields hard cap casting rate.
And you get a perk for medium armor eventually that reduces the hard cap.
Only way I can see that you're hardcapped at 86% is that you're using a shield.

>>18658920
Play catgod,all other debug races are shit

Is the obstinate feat worth it to turn my pet into a tank?

>>18658923
Nah, dual wield, medium armor, heavy armor, and shields will all hardcap you, varies depending. medium armor never gets a perk to reduce it, warmage does get a perk to add a flat 5% to casting rate after all modifications (meaning you can get above normal hardcap with warmage). Medium armor gets Magic Equip, which just gives more spell power

So guys I have been playing the vanilla Elona, can I use my safefile for E+ or do I just start a new run?

>>18658976
Save in a town or your home first, then you can update with no issues.

>>18658927
>All debug races, especially high starting speed ones, are shit.
fixed, you are welcome
debug races are for roleplay, not minmaxing.

>>18658976
You can but you shouldn't because you will have a hard time gaining AP

>>18659022
I personally hate being slow as molasses

quickling all the way

>>18659088
I personally like to get my 600-1k speed by the middle of act2 without destroying my lategame with sky-high INI.

>Read books in town
>Unique NPC gets summoned and killed by guard
>Get him and great weapons

>>18658958
Oh, fuck how did I get that shit wrong.

>>18659125
Just how bloody tough are the guards ? I summon random shit every now and then and they always mop the floor with creatures.

>>18659189
Morrowind tier of tough

>Werewolf kills some townie
>The next day they execute the goddamn Queen

>>18659224
b-but i thought it was a popularity vote!

>>18659224
Can you get NPC with desirable loot killed this way?

>>18659249
yep

>Read random book in palmia
>A dragon and a mass monster spawns
>Guards kill the dragon easily, go for the mass monster
>think it will be over and go to sell some shit
>???
>the palace is filled with the fuckers and they keep pouring out
fuck

>>18659249
That's pretty much the whole point. Saves you from karma loss and getting your shit kicked in from high lvl NPCs.

>>18647317
I got so far as to do everything but the head, but it doesn't even matter as he's too much of a tol boi to fit inside elona's spritesheet as I made him.

And he's got a lot of colors that don't stand out against each other very well at 100% resolution.

Oh well.

>>18659569
That just looks like a blob, post what you made in its original dimensions

How does lomias get self flagged as a cunt so quickly once you start the game?

>>18647317
A PCC of that golem would be good. Can someone do it?

Perfect

Into what element i should change my breath? which ones dont destroy items on the ground?

>>18659951
I like nether, for the health recovery. But at some point enemies become too resistant and its a pain to cast nightmare on each one of them.

Does breath damage scale reliably?I always thought it was a useless skill.

>>18659951
Magic for damage, nether for heals, chaos for fun with status.

>>18659975
If only there was a Nightmare equivalent of Megid Flame.

I am a claw welding machine gunner that spams special actions when i feel lazy

mani or kumi? what damage mani increases?

Which one of these feats are good/bad?

hypnotism,string assassin,gentle face

>>18660341
Those aren't terribly good.
Ones that I always take is vampirism (lets you survive forever and recharge your hp/stamina), flame art (cone shaped magic attack, which doesn't exist as a spell), magic eyes (can just spam it to recharge your mana)

>>18660386
Yeah i had spare feat points and was wondering if getting all unique/special ones was the way to go instead of the stat ones

trying to see which arent so useful,exorcist?

>>18660341
Strings Assassin gives you Dancing Wire on your next level up if you have 40 tactics, a skill that lets you pull targets to you (even allies, since it is a non-offensive skill).
Gentle Face apparently have some neat buffs/debuffs if you have enough Will to unlock them, but I never tested them.

>>18647317
>>18659806
PCC guy here, complicated design so will take longer than usual - maybe a week or two

>>18660436
That is pretty great.

I last played during 1.66.
Did they add any new spells or abilities with either a cone or fireball shaped damage? It always bothered me that all spells are either centered on you or in a straight line.

I know about the Fire Breath traits and Magistus grenade, and ranged weapons. Any other spells or special abilities?

>>18660418
Gentle face gives you Smile Field at 40 Will, which gives concentration AND a buff called retention to you and every ally in sight. Retention prevents teleport, increases insanity resist and increases speed which stacks with the speed spell and gravity accel (meaning you can get a large increase by using all of them).

Interestingly enough I can still teleport using a rod with retention active so it must only refer to being TP'd by enemies. Because it buffs everyone, Smile Field has a permanent spot on my hotbar, I use it often along with Cheer. At 80 Will you get Cowering Smile which ''overwhelms'' every creature in sight, but I have no idea what it actually does.

>>18660709
Cowering smile causes atrophy

>>18660743
>Browbeat everything in line of sight, reducing their damage output by 50%
Too bad it also affects allies

>>18660818
Just send them away beforehand.

>>18659632
I upscaled without interpolation. Hopefully 8x resolution won't look like a blob.

Anyway, I think this is about the best starting point I can make for someone else to improve/get ideas from.

Except arms&hands. I didn't do those, at all.

>>18657600

Just take it off, anon.
It's not that the HP drain puts legitimate risk on killing you; a simple heal will staunch the bleeding. It's the notification that'll drive you insane.

>>18660895
Yeah I can dig it, the small version was just missing the head

Sorry if it's asked all the time, but what is that "loop0, sub2" next to the clock in the current version? Never seen it before.

Is there a limit to negative enhancement (with cursed acidproof liquid) on Loss mode? Can it destroy an item?

>>18661308
Ano's debugging code for finding out an infinite loop bug

>>18659119
Quicklings have in fact the potential to have the lowest INI achievable due to their low innate life and mana, with the Oblivion Palace and some rotten undead bodies to reduce their attributes to 1.
I definitively never want to go back to a low-life race though, golem is probably going to be my permarace.

>>18661716
>Grinding life and stats back on PC
noty

>>18661716
Can you eat cursed hero cheese or magic fruit to get the same result?

>>18661974
You can reduce life to 1 with Gevala easily, why bother with cheese?

>>18661985
Well, sure, but that won't change mana.

>>18662004
1 mana is equal to 4 life for INI. At this point it would be pure autism.

>>18661974
You can't change your INI by reducing your life and mana

>>18662152
With Maile?

Wiki doesn't have much data on it, but how good is Baphomet as a pet and what does its "grasp of curse words" do?

>>18662567
I think its the ability that curses target's equipment
I doubt its actually useful

>>18662567
Its a harmful ability. Pure roleplay pet.

>>18661974
INI calculations take the base life/mana of your race, lowering/raising it don't affect oblivion palace reset ( don't know about soul spindle reset ).

>>18661974
>noty
Ah i forgot, the lowest life/mana in the INI calculation is 50.
That's why quickling ( 3/40 and bomb40/50 ) is the best race for minimum INI, because both life and mana is below 50.

>>18662871
Isnt it great that you can get whole 79949 ap instead of ~79800 like other scrub races?
For AP gain its a negligable difference.

how do I get pets to make stuff for me again? I only encountered breakfast so far

>>18662964
Tailoring and Carpentry.

What's the highest dmg material after ether?

>>18663051
Adamantium.

Ensemble or Stradivarius if I want items, not gold?

>>18662654
>>18662761

Oh that sucks. It has a cool sprite, though.

>>18663051
>>18663101

Adamantium provide the best PV and raw dam but it's heavy as fuck though. A single earth bolt is enough to make fairies consider reincarnation.

>>18663150
Ensemble for items, not tickets. You'll get gold regardless of what you do - perform, preach or dance.

>>18663165
For non-fairies Adamantium's weight is godsent - you get higher damage multiplier on crits with more weight of weapon/ammo.

Do 'Sample' slots in shop actually increase sales or they're just for flavor? Does it matter what I put in there?

>>18639307
What VN? For research purposes

>>18663213
Flavor

>>18663173

Huh. I didn't know that. Thanks.
Time to change mat kits.

So gentle smile and natural leader are only useful with pets correct? might only get those on act 2-3 once i cant tank bosses solo anymore

>>18663510
Gentle smile and gravity accel act as self-buffs too, unlike Cheer(natural leader), which only affects pets.

>>18663510
Gentle Smile also increases enemies' crit chance (if you cast it while enemies are on sight), you can combine it with Emergency Evasion to avoid taking damage while tanking bosses. Or so Ano says.

>>18663599
Are you sure its Gentle Smile and not Gravity Accel? IIIRC gravity is a status related to crits somehow.

>>18663651
From 1.61 changelog:
>Smile Field
>Gained during level up if Gentle Face feat has been acquired and Will is 40 or above.
>Uses Space Retention on the user, and all targets in sight will get buffed with Concentration.
>Strength of buffs will depend on the number of targets and the user's Will.
>If there are no enemies around that use physical attacks then it may be worth using it even if enemies are in sight.
>It makes enemies proc criticals more often so it works well in combination with Emergency Evasion.

Anyone know how Resolution Hand works? Wiki says it turns killed enemies into materials but this doesn't seem to happen.

>>18663675
If I remember correctly, you need to attack a very-low-HP target with a Touch action (poison, sleep) while Resolution Hand buff is active to trigger the pseudo-Decapitation invoke that will kill the target and turn it into materials.
I guess it's more useful when you can reduce enemies to 1HP in one hit or two with Knockout.

what the heck is this?

>>18663675
You also get +20% MAG buff while its working.
Decapitation proc on touch spacts works on low hp targets (somewhere between 20 and 10% hp, dont remember exactly)
>>18663707
Rainbow damage. Poison spells will deal extra nerve damage and vice-versa.

>>18663692
Thats precisely what happens, but there's no mention of any materials.

>>18663674
Ah it probably means extra critrate from buffed PER stat with Concentration buff.

>>18663715
doesn't seem to apply to nerve damage from Diablo. Its for mages only then?

>>18663717
I honestly never used it, so I don't fully understand how it works. I can't test it right now, but try to check your mat inventory before and after a Touch kill to confirm if you got new stuff or not. Maybe it's just a log issue.

>take off my headphones for a bit and play without sound
>starve to death in 5 minutes
Every time.

>>18663765
It does say: spells.
>>18663717
In one of the previous threads I've seen screencap of suicide with this, an hero got a paper. Maybe target level matters.

>wiki says i need fire breath and 30 CON for variable breath
>meet those
>Still dont have it

uh?

>>18663707
It's in the patch log.

It combine fire and cold spells.
Has a chance of getting generated on ring and back equipment.
It combine mind and sound spells.
Has a chance of getting generated on head and shield equipment.
It combine poison and nerve spells.
Has a chance of getting generated on arm and leg equipment.
All of these equipment attributes for spells will deal additional damage of the other element when a spell of one of the listed element is used.
The additional damage won't happen if the first spell kills the target.
It won't work for the Exile's chain-casted dart spells. It'll only apply if you teach it Nerve Arrow with AP.
Amount of damage depends on the original spell, with a multiplier based on the strength of the equipment attribute. [Multiplier] cap is quite low.
No equipment attributes have been added for the other elements as it might get too powerful.

>>18663823
You get spacts after levelup if you meet requirements.

>>18663851
Oh,alright,thanks!

Any reason to get a silver cat apart from the quest?

You mutate! Your brain degenerates.

>>18664100
Nope. You'll want as many stray cats as possible, though.

Not exactly what I should do as a Thief, just steal cool shit and try to take down dungeons?

>>18664169
Class matters little, this game is all about doing whatever you want. Read the pastebin guides to get a general idea of what to tackle next

>>18664169
Pickpocketing is actually pretty hard in this game, since it requires you to out everyone's of sight, strong enough (STR) to pull the item out of your target's pocket, and skilled enough to steal it without your target noticing it. Nothin personnel dickstabbing is easier.

>>18664107
Does it also cause your skin to darken?

>>18664279
That only happens when a pure maiden gets raped by demons that wants to turn her into a semen demon. Her sclera also gets darker and sometimes she becomes blue too.

>>18664391
This isnt monster girl general anon

Spooky

>spamming space on a resource spawn
>camp-looting event pops up, puts something 'u'sable at my feet
>end up using my material kit on random shit
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>18664471

Unfortunate thread

>collecting artifacts from gods
>sucking lulwy's tits
>bought offerings
>spam them on her altar at truce grounds
>summon Lulwy
>get 4th reward
>send her to crib
>go over to Itzpalt's
>accidentally used instead of Pray
>accidentally offered my +15 Lv.15 Earth living crossbow to Lulwy
>accidentally converted the only known Itzpalt's altar

FUCK

>>18664509
Isn't the altar on mages' guild aligned with Itzpalt?

>>18664509
I've gone through half the pantheon but always skipped the 4th rewards. I don't really see the point of 'em. Except maybe the Sasumata from Jure that allows you to beat on things without killing them to grind like mad

>>18664526

Well if you'd like to autistically grind your skills, these gifts are godsend. For example, you'd like to train casting meteor but don't want to run risk of killing your pets or yourself, you could just slap Itzpalt's gift on and spam the spell. You will fail to cast it, thus hurting no one. But you will also gain spell EXP from trying.

Yacatect's gift allow you to trade more often and be noticed almost immediately, which is helpful in challenge/panic/hunting quests.

Bropatos's allow you to pass time; without the need of going to the abyss. For the purpose of farming/breeding or regenerating HP.

Their applications are not direct, to say the least.

>>18664518

That I do not know. Checking later.

>>18664526
They are all used to grind like mad, but Opatos' 4th gift is also the best time-waster in the game since you don't have to deal with the penalties of the underwater palace.

Why would anyone invite this guy to the parties?

I dont know if i am lucky or unlucky

what's the best breeder for food shop jerky? i'm using rat right now just cause they breed quick but is there a better option?

>>18664817
Give it to pet to level it in pet arena.

What's the easiest way to raise Mani's favor? Investing in gun sellers?

>>18664904
yes

Soooooo what are oracle scrolls good for ? They sell for so much but I don't understand why

>>18664904
Buy/sell slaves with relevant gear, strip gear before selling slaves back. enter lesimas once, use return scrolls for quick teleport to altar when you are full.

>>18664954
You use them to check if new static artifacts were generated, in particular during party/harvest time quests.

>>18664997
Why during harvest time? i doubt noteworthy enemies spawn there

>>18664461
Those guys are the fucking worst.

>>18665007
hermit crabs and rabbit generate precious amulet/luck food

>>18664954
They're handy for trading stuff off of other adventurers, if you don't want to risk pickpocketing; nice for heavier gear or if pickpocket skill isn't very high.

>>18664118
What for?

>>18665191
emergency food suppy

>>18665191
There is a quest in act2 from dog cop that resets luck potential or increases luck for each stray cat returned.
>>18665206
lol. +point

Have you ever hired adventurers to solo a higher level dungeon for you?

>>18665219
Yep. They are kind of unreliable, though.

>>18665219
Never tried it, but you'll probably just get oneshot occasionally.

>smoke tobacco once
>get withdrawal symptoms for the next 2 weeks

>>18665380
>Drink one beer
>Vomit like a fire hose and immediately lose 22 pounds of body weight

>>18665465
dont drink cursed booze

>>18665483
You will often vomit when drunk+satiated regardless of the BUC status

>>18665496
Well, not from one beer?
Althrough one of my first chars died this way, was pretty anticlimatic.

>>18659569
>>18660895
Thank you!, but I was wrong when I said sprite. Actually I wanted a PCC, I'm sorry!

>>18660436
Wow! I'll be looking forward to it! Looks great!

Sasumata makes me think of sumata
Jure is lewd

>>18665601
>Sasumata
Its an actual weapon name.
Its you who are lewd. Don't defile Goddess with those filthy thoughts.

how do I get stardust for the new crafting system? Slaughter unique npcs at party quests? How bad will that be for my karma?

>>18665671
You dont lose karma in party time.
Additionally, you get plenty of stardust with harvest time quests as well as the usual dungeon diving.

I just found out after 3 or 4 years of playing Elona that you can set items to important(cannot drop/sell) in the shift-X menu with *.

Has anyone found a mechanical lure in a dungeon? i am trying to track two adventurers who have it but i am always too late

>>18665971
If only it prevented from offering nodrop items. Nearly offered rod of wishing.

>>18665971
It says that right there on the bottom of the gui...

>>18666243
I never really use that menu because it's easier to press 'd' and it shows the same thing.

>>18663173
>>18663258
The main problem is if you're trying to stay in the Medium Armor range for Magic Equip.

>>18666259
You can unequip weapon, ME, self-buff, equip weapon again. If you are a caster you dont need heavy weapon in the first place, and high level buffs last for a long time.

>>18666291
That's true.
So, for range characters does the weight for crit come from the shooting weapon or the ammo itself?

>>18666251
Ha, fair enough. I do that myself, and only use the examine menu to see the items set to no drop, since they don't show up when you press 'd'. That wouldn't have applied to you though....

>>18666309
I read through the adventurer's seminar and that's where they mentioned it.
The worst thing was having to go around all the spare equipment like +skill and +perform gear every time when selling drops.

>>18666304
ammo

>>18666304
ammo for weapons that use ammo.

>>18639307
Dude can you slow your leveling down I'm trying to catch up.

>>18663222
Full Metal Daemon: Muramasa. A Nitroplus VN. So she also shows up in their fighting game Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel.

>>18666549
Got to level my skills and spells and due to them climbing my levels are increasing. Don't see it slowing down anytime soon. I'm level 61 now. Keep grinding out your stuff and keep potentials high.

Just how much xp does lv13+ living weapon need. Killed around 50 lv100 enemies and still at 3%. wtf.

>>18666759
XP for living weps is always 100 times its level, you're probably going to need to kill even stronger shit if you aren't getting much.

>>18665705
You can lose karma in party time, but only if you kill tourists/noble children. Everyone else is free game.

Speaking of killing innocent people, there's the unique rank for museum that needs unique NPCs.
I never tried going around killing random people before.

Am I just supposed to walk up to people like the King and Queen of Palmia and fuck them up for the statue? Is the whole town not going to go hostile or something?

>>18667055
Guards don't give one fuck unless your Karma goes too low.

>>18665671
You get it from getting the same precious equipment again. Hermit crabs at the ranch would be a good way to farm, afaik.

Does anyone have a chart of what's harvest-able on farms during what seasons? Just started on my own but wanna make sure it's not already been done before I go any further.

>>18667244
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Farm

>>18667272
Doy, can't believe I didn't think to check here. Thanks!

Just started playing this. My little girl keeps falling in the well and dying.

>>18667706
Buy her wings.

>>18667055
There are other ways to get friendly NPC's statues: Duel Gloves (no karma loss on kill), Bio Printer (will generate the statue without killing the target. The target probably will become hostile, but the hostility will go away after you leave the area or ask for forgiveness with Harakiri) and wishes (a terrible option, even if you are roleplaying).
There is also the Void, but I believe the NPC needs to die at least once to "unlock" his boss fight in the there.

>>18667778
> I believe the NPC needs to die at least once to "unlock" his boss fight in the there
It's not necessary. I clearly remember fighting <Siva> in the Void way before the real one.

Changing an item into another item doesn't change any of the item attributes, so you can have a Vindale cloak that has float but not protection from etherwind and a feather that has protection from etherwind but no float. Learned this the hard way and will have to purchase another hammer and material kit.

>>18668012
i am confused by this post

>>18668047
hes talking about using equip update. it doesnt change any item attributes

>>18668047
A few recently added recipes let you turn an item into another item. A feather turns into a Vindale cloak, but it doesn't gain protection from etherwind

>>18668112
Could i add,etherwind protection to an 'aurora' ring?

>>18668187
Probably not unless garok's hammer would add it. Items can only be 'updated' to other items of the same type, so ring -> ring ,back -> back

I just noticed the recipe for picnic basket. Is it worth it, especially before I can mass produce herbs?
It gives decent potential boost to all stats, including luck and speed. A bit of a pain to make, though.

Which item has no use other than for trading or is best used for trading to get miracle items from NPCs?

what's the population limit on parties, anyway? It seems to get reset lower when I reload on the map.

>>18669003

I always use Cure corruption. I have like 20 spare, just need to give 5-8 for godly and special.

>>18668112

Item update doesn't change existing item's inherent attributes (or any attributes other than weight, DV/PV, hit roll, dam roll). Meaning, if you got a shotgun and you update it to a sniper rifle, it won't get decapitation attribute inherent to sniper rifles.

Update also change an item to its next class of its "type". Firearm updates will only cycle between [sniper rifle - shotgun - pistol - machinegun - laser rifle], not in that order. Same goes to other weapon/armour type. Some types require hard and soft materiums for a full cycle. Like arm items (gloves/gauntlet/etc). Use this feature if you want machineguns with crits or laser guns with decapitation or something.


Real boon comes from item making; which is always miracle and above. You can abuse this for living weapons.

>>18652041
Can I have the link to his channel?

>>18669003
Oracle scrolls. Remember to drop them one by one on the ground until you discover the NPC's minimum "price" for that item. They will accept the whole stack of scrolls even if they just want 3 of them, for example.

*cat supplies an army of fairies with pocket money*
sweet.

Still got only 50% xp on that living weapon after 100 wins. Friggin black hole.

How is the crit chance for predator calculated?
Doesn't crit have some sort of cap, and wouldn't predator just help reach that cap faster? Or is it calculated individually, or for some reason stacks ontop of the crit cap?

>>18670114
Since crit is reduced by target crit evasion, there is no cap.
simplified formula would be something like (SQRT(eye of mind)+20 if you have predator)/4=% crit, with target crit evasion substracting from this crit chance.