/jp/ - Otaku Culture

First for RTK

How fix?

椎名林檎が俺の一番好きな歌手だよ。
これを聞いて
https://youtu.be/IiydLcGgkqk

You forgot to add the wires for the 2.0 pic ;_;

wheres the FUcking heaDPhone wire omfG

>>21228534
reinstall

>>21228558
I literally just installed it. Could you show me how your Anki Options in the plugin are set up? I must be missing something.

1. Skim through TK
2. Start core2k6
3. Go through yotsubatos first two volumes using the reading pack
4. Start a mining deck and read a lot while finishing core6k on the side

1. read
2. refer to 1.

the inevitable end for all who dare to challenge nihongo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exB9itI7gO4#t=104

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDjaLnW3BDw

is this guy gonna make it

>>21228657
rage quit in 1 second due to voice and holding a smart phone

no he definitely wont

I understand what Yotsuba is saying though I had to look up ふる but as for Yousuke I get the idea that he's driving and can't wave but that's from the image rather than the text.

Should I just keep reading? Or stop and break down the sentence in order to understand exactly what is being said? The former seems much more fun but I'm not sure how much I am actually learning that way.

ICHIBAN
SUYOI
GAIJIN
NI
NARITAI

>>21228674
just keep going, in the very beginning its more about getting a grasp on how the language is actually used so don't waste too much time obsessing over understanding 100% of what's being said, as long as you mostly get the gist of whats going on youre fine for now

>>21228674
ill break it all open for u dude with just 1 link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDu7sFdwgZY#t=229

post greens 弱虫

minna genki ¿

watashi wa genki desu YO

read the yo as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKMw2it8dQY

>>21228717
thank you
>>21228721
fuck you

Can I learn enough Japanese to play Persona 5 in 190 days? I only know hiragana and Katakana...

>>21228733
This picture makes me really sad

>>21228757
only one way to find out

>>21228757
imagining u doing the quizzes and getting them all wrong lmao

>>21228758
the gaps are exam periods at uni so dont feel bad

>>21228757
Just start learning if you really want to. You probably won't get far enough to read it without a dictionary, but it'll be a part of learning then, too.
>>21228753
I like your attitude.

How long does it take to understand this?

>>21228753
u thanked the guy who gave u no japanese and said fuck u to the guy who did

maybe u would be best suited to continue ur language pursuit back on reddit

>>21228534
99.9% of the time, when people are asking why Yomichan's Anki feature doesn't work, it's because they're using an outdated version of AnkiConnect or Anki.

>>21228772
about this long https://streamable.com/yg0wk

the more the binding cracks the more it shows u just understand it

>>21228546
>>21228553
there's such a thing as wireless headphones you know

>>21228783
just fuckin put the wire thru the awkwardly poked hole in his wifebeater so his big dog doesnt know hes secretly listening to naurto episodes

>>21228674
Daddy can't take his hands off (the wheel), so do my share of the waving too Yotsuba.

>>21228781
Why would you ruin your comic by using sticky notes like he did?

>>21228796
now this guy is ready to scanlate

>あの下衆野郎私の前に引きずってこい、活かしたままだぞ！手足千切っても、決して殺すな！私自身の手で奴の穢らわしい口斬り裂いてやる！！！

>>21228757
Without having to look anything up or misunderstanding anything? Very unlikely.

>>21228760
Guess it doesn't hurt to try to challenge myself to getting good enough to read stuff in 190 days.

>>21228770
I mean I've been here for a week because I wanted to learn Japanese, but was taking it easy, but knowing that I have a goal for 190 days has me fired up now.

>>21228807
being able to understand 70% without looking and having to look up 30% of the things sounds good enough.

>>21228812
do it and defeat the quizmaster for me when you're done. someone has to take his throne

>>21228816
ok I'll travel to Egypt and defeat QuizMaster.

I thought he was German?

>>21228818
>>21228827
何とまあ

>>21228674

I‘ll have you know I haven’t even posted once in this thread. All posts so far are by Quizmaster pretenders. However I‘ll have you know I have an announcement on my thoughts on Jamal and my relationship with the thread that I‘ll publish later look forward to it.

quizmaster pregnant from jamal confirmed

definitley 楽しみにしてるing lol

>>21228839
oh wow didn't expect this arc to 展開 in this way

>>21228839
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faJ77ay4b4E

oh no not another mpreg fic I can't take it

I don't know why prior anon pretended to be me, I have made prior posts in this thread.

anime with JP subs vs. raw manga vs. VNs vs. Novels?

I want some gainz after anki.

>>21228873
u cant gain anything until u watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime trust me

>>21228879
that's done

>>21228883
then u shouldnt have to ask just follow ur heart and itll all work out

if u have to ask u have a problem somewhere that no one here can help u with

>>21228888
I'll trust those digits, and I trust your trust in my heart. I will watch 10000 hours of JP subbed anime.

>>21228873
Raw manga ... it depends on genre. But in general, language-wise you don't gain as much since it's mostly drawings and you only have dialogues, not descriptions. It's mostly entry stuff or for fun. It IS reading, just not very effective.
Anime with JP subs ... well, you'll pick up a bit of dialogue. Just like in manga, you have a lot of context, so it's easier to understand. But again, it takes up a lot of time.
VN's are often recommended, I don't use them though. But most are voiced and that helps with reading. Basically more entertaining novels (I guess, I said I don't read them).
You can probably gain the most vocab from novels, and get a lot of practice.

>>21228917
honestly i look at manga as jp subbed anime at ur own pace which i think ranks lower in terms of being good than just jp subbed anime because ideally u wouldnt fuck with playback and have to take it as it comes

just like difficulty wise and having to have more solid fundamentals

>>21228481
マットさんいらっしゃいますか

「kkHOHUGOoUUuuu」

>>21228827
https://youtu.be/4ztOV2wrrkY

>>21228434
It's actually a lot more fun to understand and follow a story.

>>21228989
if u think texthooking and mouseover dictionaries actually enables that u are no better than this retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J_joeqKri0&list=PLs4Gp5VU4Fv9h7u5e_7ePpWZ28i2PWbxd

>>21228434
I've been contemplating giving this a try, but I'm still undecided. I feel like it would slow my reading down a lot and make it feel like more of a chore resulting in me not wanting to do it.

Did/do you use Anki, by the way?

>>21229006
what u do is not jump head first into walls of text and take it easy by playing some video games that are mostly gameplay instead : )

unless of course u have the resolve and strong enough mind built through extensive meditation to withstand said walls of text when u recognize and understand so little

>>21228998
I mean you can understand a sentence better if you have an idea of the words in it even if your understanding is far from perfect.

>>21229011
I can't play anything more intensive than VNs (and only ones without animation) otherwise my computer starts to melt.

>>21228790
here, stop bitching.

>>21229024
it goes down the entire outside of the wifebeater what r u DOIgn

>>21229024
Why would the wire be behind him? This looks worse than the wireless version.

>>21229024
this is the level of stupidity your average djter is at

>>21228539
シンガーソングライターだけど

ライターでゆうめいだね

楽譜をかくのがとってもうまいみたい

あたしはここすき
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avl_88EY4Tk

>>21229030
>>21229031
>>21229034

>>21229034
>>21229031
>>21229030

>>21229050
now this is immersion

>>21229056
dang u were outdone before u could even post

>>21229062
Both me tho

>>21229065
oh well *tips fedora* uve outdone urself

>>21228674
>>21228917
Manga isn't reading.

>>21228873
VNs

>>21229018
Even if you knew all the words you probably wouldn't understand that one.

All posts in this thread were made by me, Quizmaster.

You're welcome.

>>>/wsg/2815169

Anyone know what's being said here? I can't quite catch it. I'm not sure if there's a another meaning of a word I don't know or if I'm just mis-hearing.

>>21229084
i thought about just telling u but then had a better idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCbvltWwR3c#t=68

>>21229084
cock ora da
(japanese for give me cock now)

>>21228605
Mine your own deck.

lets quiz

>>21229164
C

>>21229164
A the fuck out of those blue shits

>>21229175

>>21229164
if i was able to read this as comfortably as i would read english does that mean i "made it" or at least that i am making it? basic as hell but still

>>21229201
congratulations uve reached the peak of mount stupid its only up from here

>>21229081
>Manga isn't reading.
>suggests VNs
Explain

>>21229081
kys

>to play koi means that you are teasing
>in japanese, the usage of koi means to bring it on "koi yo"

I dont get it

koi is also a fish

it means love

look at this fuckin absolute unit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e084nxid5ng#t=354

>>21229236
*coy

>>21229230
Whats wrong with VNs?

>>21229234
I keep myself safe always thank you.

>>21229084
go be a goober elswere you goober.

/jp/ only plays UNIEST

idk dude i think we gotta show out for all the games no one fuckin plays any of them : (

>>21229253
Nothing, but if you're not recommending Manga why VNs? What makes them superior enough for one to not even be classed as reading to you?

How many hours of anki + eng subbed anime mining to be able to play this?

>>21229267
10000

>>21229267
50

>>21229267
stfu RETard

>>21229267
about 100000

>>21229267
Really wish people would stop asking retarded questions like this.

>>21229279
whats this from

How many hours of sentence cards until I unlock eating on the shitter?

DESIGNATED SHITTING SPOT

how do i say NIGGER in japanaese

>>21229262
You seem to be confused.

>>21229304
Jamaru-kun

gomennasai my tourettes kicked in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iway0cbigE8&t=119

my infection made me lose 10lbs and it's starting to clear up so i can read again.

ah yes here it is
https://exhentai.org/s/d7222bf54f/649729-1

welp time to stop using quizmaster name lol

>>21229328
Who cares?

>>21229341
Finally.

naze da

u can have that shit dude

>>21229339
>remember I have to log into forum to get past sad panda.
>log in
>still sad panda

I haven't gone to sad panda in a while, did they changed something?

>>21229348
might be a cookie you gotta delete

>>21229328
Good to hear :) Hope you'll get better.

>learnt basic grammar
>"reading" Yotsuba and getting the gist of it
>few pages in and there are multiple speech bubbles where I understand 1 or 2 words at best

Fuck. What do I do? Make an Anki deck for everything they say that I don't understand? I imagine there would be a lot of duplicates with my Core2k deck though.

>>21229339
>Non-H

>>21229339
Why did you made me read this shit?

>>21229369
how does feel to know ur going to burn in hell 4 all eternity lol

>>21229374
whats wrong with it

>>21229363
>>Fuck. What do I do?
Keep going, that's totally normal. Also, don't feel forced to read Yotsuba if it's not interesting to you. Read whatever you want.

Watching more raw anime will help you pick up the slang more easily than you can through reading.

>>21229379
nevermind.

>>21229377
とてもとても気持ちいい

>>21229381
ur also gonna burn

>>21229386
y tho

>>21229405
theres bad ppl in the world

>>21229380
>Keep going, that's totally normal.
Even if I can't understand a thing being said? Am I actually learning anything this way?

>>21229415
if its incomprehensible no u are not learning anything

that doesnt mean u cant find a way to give it some amount of comprehensibility however・・

>>21229415
try it for like 100 hours see what happens

>If you can speak for 5 minutes in a video, that's the best measure of your ability in that language. Far better than tests.
Is Steve right?

>>21229438
yea

yes honestly if its off the cuff and not rehearsed like a matt/dogen vid

however i think whats better is 5 mins actively engaged in convo or explaining something that came up off the cuff that couldnt be prepared for like taking a random question etc

meme cards > anime cards

prove me wrong

i actually wanna ask lingual steve to explain how to tie shoes in japanese lol

moege cards > all

>>21229453
ur card is so trash ur going to die never having known nihongo

Can someone please help me with this one sentence?

>何いうかと思えば大ゲサだな

Specifically 大ゲサ. Would really appreciate it.

>>21229461
kys your self quizmaster-様

>>21229464
check out this epic word 大げさ

>>21228960
Explain this meme to me.

>>21229471
That makes a lot more sense, thanks.

Is there a proper list of VNs sorted by difficulty? Ideally with tags for genres but I can just sort through them if not.

>>21228838
still waiting for this

>>21229487
you want someone to read it for you too?

>>21229487
its only difficult if its not interesting to you just read what you want

>>21229363
Just keep on reading, consulting the dictionary as needed. If you read often enough, you'll become used to much of the vocabulary you'll see in the material you consume.
The Core2k/6k/10k was mostly made using a newspaper-based corpus, which is why it shows you words like 経営 or 工業 before つまらない or 猫.

>8 months of anki
>app crashes randomly
>somehow lose all records
luckily it's still keeping my schedules but sucks I Iost my 200+ streak I was on.. I think it was that load balancer plug-in quiz recommended

>>21229519
time to start reading then

>>21229523
I am, most of the time, anki is supplement, I'm already done for the day on it

>>21229475
here u go dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUBhb--lkVU#t=4327

>>21229464
>大ゲサ
That's probably 大袈裟. It's got something to do with Buddhist worship rituals. It's also got a semi-metaphorical, much more common meaning, but you can probably figure that on your own.

Stop being rude以上

>>21229530
just add some pokemon coming out lol

matts story started out as toilet hanako but pretty soon its gonna be more like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGY8GoEbQ0

>>21229515
That makes me feel glad that I didn't do the core decks

>>21229363
Never anki yotsuba bro, it's not that kind of read. Just reread it in a few months or so and you'll probably figure out whatever you missed, I thought it was hard at first too but it's just super easy common slangy-ish speech. 俗語

honestly cant u guys just hurry up and just get him up to 5k a month on patreon so i can expose him for being bad @ nihongo in front of the great esteemed japanese learning community

You see not so long ago I was incredibly upset with Jamal and accused him of single handedly ruining the thread. I was trying to get him to prove he knows Japanese which he refused to do and that made me even more angry but really what does it matter. My desire for this thread to be populated by more advanced learners and that we should post in a way as to attract more of them into this thread was nonsensical in the first place, all Japanese learning communities are overwhelmingly populated by beginners and why should this place be an exception. I suppose with challenging everyone to quiz I just showed what everyone knew already, that nobody here really knows Japanese. So my anger at Jamal was misdirected. He merely was the most recognizable poster and I wanted a scapegoat.

He really isn't nearly the worst of what this thread offers anyway, which I have come to find out in the last few days. There is those spreading fake information about me by replicating my posting style, those vile people that accuse me of lying and cheating and people who come to molest me. Jamal hasn't done anything like that, sure he posts as Quizmaster but you can tell it's him by his posting style and his posts are never really aiming to hurt anyone. The nonsensical advice he gives is clearly recognizable as such (10k hours of english anime) and I'm impressed he managed to keep his character up for so long. He even accepted the ass bet which I have to say deserves some respect.

And by now it's obvious he isn't going anywhere. Countless people have told him to get out but he sticks around and by now the thread would be unrecognizable without his influence, whether it ultimately is good or bad. So in a way I've grown a bit fond of him.

Let's just take it easy and do our best to learn Japanese. (I'll still challenge people who talk shit to quiz though.)

This is for you:
https://streamable.com/jrh4c

>>21229618
can you make anime cards that don't have those old ass shitty anime? I want cards from shit like my hero academia, One piece, or shocuheky nu souma

>>21229618
おまえゲイじゃん

>>21229626
You can make them from everything, all anime (easier with Japanese subtitles) and even VN.

>>21229628
god damnit, I was attempting to make you mad. Why can't you fall for my anger baits Quizmaster?

>>21229618
what do u mean accepted the ass bet im the 1 who came up with it lol

also my advice is never nonsensical lets just say i like giving ppl enough rope to hang themselves or in other words leave it up to them to decide if they drink the sparkling water or the bleach sitting right next to it

I understand it's possible to learn to understand anime, eroge, and all that without having to ever take any classes or anything of that sort, but is it possible to actually be able to speak Japanese without having to talk to people?

>>21229641
If I remember correctly somebody else came up with the ass bet and you agreed to it as well. Maybe it was the other way around.

>>21229618
おめでとう！！！
N9合格！！！

>>21229652
i literally wrote the fuckin ass bet thats my (sort of) original concept

Reading about learning Japanese is making me realise how poor my English is. I'm noticing more and more that there are tons of words that I just skip over in context and don't actually know what they mean exactly. I'm not sure if this is a bad thing or proof that being able to read any language doesn't actually mean knowing all the vocabulary.

>>21229643
nah

>>21229659
That's cool too. Anyway I didn't want to make it all about the ass bet.

>>21228657
>naurto
fucking based
>>21228757
no
>>21228989
lol what i support ur hookin but all it does is make it ez u can obv use a dic without it
>>21229487
ur gonna have to start payin me for this

hello guys

Why are people so jealous of my genes and my nihongo?

>>21229678
よ

>>21229570
Not the anon you replied to but I'm also relatively new to reading and started a mining deck for aku no hana which is the second thing I've started reading after yotsuba. Should I avoid mining this early beginner stuff and just wait until I'm further into core or something?

>>21229643
it's like you're building up an arsenal for your troops, but yea you still have to train the troops how to shoot it, 95% of it is collecting the arsenal though, then you get good at shooting later

am i the only one who hasn't fallen for jamal's charm? what enables me to resist him? is it my high IQ? the fact i'm a back-to-back DJT argument winning champion?

嗚呼

>>21229572
was going to give him 1 dollar but Patreon shadowblocked me from making an account for some reason.

>>21229698
ur a huge pseud fag

>>21229698
i thought u loved him this is a surprise to me

List of fags that lurk here and don't want to show themselves:

>Calvin
>Pewdiepie
>Matt

>>21229686
thx 4 reminding me the rest of it will never get a sick rotoscoped anime >_<

>>21229698
arguments are meaningless before the dictator

>>21229703
thats some invisible hand shit right there doin gods work

>>21229718
I can write the most gibrish shit for an email and still says that there is a person with that email.

>>21229724
i dont wanna try to get matt ur money but have u tried a diff browser ?

>>21229662
How do people even learn Japanese if they don't even know proper English?

>>21229718
they rotoscoped like 1 sec each of a couple different scenes so its basically done

>>21229731
Second time you say this shit to me. Why are you bullying me every fucking thread you stinkymaster?

>>21229731
How the fuck do kids become bilingual then? What a paradox.

I'm using this to grab VN text

https://github.com/Artikash/Textractor

What is the best way to make a vocab deck in Anki? I'm doing Core2k anyway so idk if I should even be doing that honestly.

>>21229662
btw this is completely normal and ur obsessin over nothin
>>21229738
i see no relation here lol

>>21229736
Did you grew up as a bilingual then?

>did grew
learn english

>>21229735
I'm just letting you know that you will probably be as crippled with your Nihongo as you are with your English. Even more worse than English unfortunately. Go take some classes in Nihongo that teaches it in you're Native language. Or else you will get nowhere. Self studying Nihongo is for people that have a proper grasp of English unfortunately.

your gay gaymaster lol

>even more worse

>>21229754
why are u so mad his eigo is better than urs lol

how long have u been "learning" the "japanese" and how much of this can u understanding ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clA9oUqlSmM#t=12

chiming in to let you know that i found 臥薪嘗胆 today

>>21229741
are you bullying me? I just want to learn japanese

>>21229754
damn your english sucks too.

Also, I might not be perfect with my output but I can assure you that I can understand 100% of my classes (yes I live in the US.) Hell, it was pathetic seeing how native english speakers can't fucking differetiate "they're" from "their" in my english classes.

kimi ha kyonyuu jan

>>21229753
>>21229759
>>21229765
Lol. Just remember this input>output. I'm not a Native English speaker myself but of course I might make some mistakes outputting but I understand English completely when I read it though.

>Did you grew
>Even more worse
jesus christ dude, english 3rd language?

>>21229771
>Reading about learning Japanese is making me realise how poor my English is. I'm noticing more and more that there are tons of words that I just skip over in context and don't actually know what they mean exactly.

Hey I don't go on DJT wining about not knowing English well faggot.

how long have "u" been "studying" "nihongo" and how "much" of this can "u" "comprehend" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPbtc1YlYSo

>>21229778
I'm sorry that was me not whoever you are talking to. I wasn't "whining" I was just making the point that learning 90% of words in Japanese is pointless when most people including myself probably don't know that much in their mother tongue.

>>21229783
12 years and 0%, japanese is impossible

Como aprendo Japones si solamente hablo espanol?

>>21229775
Yeah you're right it's my 3rd language along with Japanese which is my 4rd.

英語上手ですね

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKHIrqy_jZc

ingles es mi segundo lenguaje y aprendo japones usando ingles

yo igual papu si no supiese ingles estaria hasta las bolas

>>21229799
Yo tambien hermano, aprender ingles es facil cuando usas TEITET (Todo En Ingles Todo El Tiempo).

>>21229801
el metodo de matias

nani ittendayo temeera

chupa mi verga cabrones

>>21229802
ese mismo, MatiasContraAmerica es un buen canal para aprender ingles

>>21229801
Basicamente, asi fue como aprendi. Solamente que no busque guias de "como aprender ingles".

Keiner von euch wird es schaffen. Ihr seid alle hoffnungslose Fälle, und deshalb seid ihr auch hier.

>commit crime
>spend time inside learning Japanese
>have much more time than I do now
>essentially buying a few years depending on the crime

Am I wrong?

>>21229816
espera a que aprenda aleman como mi 4to lenguaje y te las veras conmigo

can u get eroge in jail

>>21229816
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgII2oQIepo#t=28

>>21229791
現にお前の英会話の強度はよく喋った
沢山の言語は出来てはすごい
正直言ってそれは羨ましい事だ

>spend a lot of time in duolingo
>excited about how i'm starting to be able to put sentences together
>discover DJT
>read the guide in the sticky
>"yeah don't even think about using english-based approaches to learning japanese, you're just setting yourself up for failure"
:(

>>21229816
Kommen Sie mir in das Zwietracht-Quiz

>>21229831
congratulations now you can get even more excited over finding out how to actually learn japanese

>>21229831
btw heres the real guide

>>21229817
why not just learn japanese without doing anything bad ?

>>21229829
ありがとう。

>>21229831
Honestly WHO the hell are you quoting?

Gj got me this book :3 gonna start reading now

>>21229837
ｗｈｙ　ｎｏ　ｐｏｓｔ　ａｂｏｕｔ

>>21229839
cuz you don't get free living arrangements

>>21229833
I didn't know that google translate for German was that bad lmao
At least it used formal/polite speech

>>21229415
At the start you understand few sentences, but for each one you figure out you improve. As time goes on, you're able to figure out more and more. So long as you're understanding at least some sentences, you're okay.

If you're having trouble understanding literally anything due to the colloquial speech though, consider reading an easy VN instead like Flyable Heart or Magical Charming instead. The narration at least will be generally be normal Japanese so it should be easier for you to get to grips with. Tbh, I think Yotsuba is a bad thing to recommend to beginners.

>>21229835
Yeah, it just feels like I wasted a lot of time. Sunk cost fallacy and all that, at least I got the hiragana and most of the katakana down but that shit's easy so eh.

>>21229837
Thanks anon. What is the extent of "basic vocab", though? Core2k6? Also what's the best way to surround myself with nihongo if I have zero weeb interests and just want to learn it to translate cute pixiv comics like this (and porn)?

LOL

僕はセックス大好き

>>21229872
yea I've seen that too lol wtf japan, it's as bad as that word they have for when a girl wont spread her legs during sex

>>21229618
>and people who come to molest me.
wtf

>>21229859
>he doesnt live in his dads basement with an unlimited manga budget to decorate his wall with
lol matts whole discord is laughing at u
>>21229869
>What is the extent of "basic vocab"
whatever u feel id say between 500 and 1500 words
>I have zero weeb interests
ur future is not lookin bright but at least ur hentai can be ur guiding light

>>21229878
isn't that more like ... rape?

I wanna quiz

Efficient way to acquire passive vocabulary by rarepotato65. https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/9sbtrd/efficient_way_to_acquire_passive_vocabulary/

a worthwhile read. summary - you can acquire a huge passive vocabulary (30k+) via lots of reading and looking up, and it's more efficient than anki. but it only works well when your lookups are manual; no yomichan or rikaikun.

it appears that the added effort and time spent on each lookup is what encourages the brain to keep it. regardless of context, a 1-second yomichan scan does virtually nothing for retention.

>>21229738
>What is the best way to make a vocab deck in Anki?
Use the Anki integration in Nazeka or Yomichan.

>>21229869
better learn to like some more things or you'll end up like every other language learner who learns for no reason and quits after a few months

>>21229886
he really proved the effectiveness of reading by repping more than 10k cards in anki in 16 months (core10k + the numerous sentences he mined).

>>21229884
they don't always come that innocent and cute with no downside, sometimes they're so reserved you have to fuck them with their legs closed.. its a thing

>>21229873
アイラブセックス、アイラブユー
でもやっぱりまんこが一番ぬるぬる

i love magical charming

>>21229891
>>21229882
I'll try to start watching some anime, then. I have nothing against anime/manga, just wasn't really interested. And of course I won't post about it here since even a newfag like me knows how /jp/ feels about /a/

>>21229886
>reddit

>>21229893
that was at the beginning. the 30k+ after that is what i'm concerned about, as someone whos already high intermediate. also, him:
"the way I was doing core 10k, If I read a card for the first time and I knew all the words I would just delete it right away, if I didn't I'd save it and if during reviews I could answer it and if under "good" button there would be 7+days interval I'd just delete the card so I had tiny death points which prevented clogging. My goal was to familiarize myself with as much words as possible as fast as possible so I would do 300 cards every day+reviews."

>>21229811
Why does the best girl always lose?

>>21229901
if u like ur hentais u can try the most based form of media that will give u the highest prospects of makin it
talkin of course about eroge
the most important thing is to do shit u enjoy if ur just forcin it to learn the language its not gonna work
u do what u want to do and learn nihongo on the way on accident
also this aint really a /jp/ thread its just a thread in /jp/ cuz it got kicked out of /a/ lol

>overlord
nice

>会う (あう)
>合う (あう)
alright, that's some serious bullshit.

literally the same word lol

>>21229933
I mean if you had bitch pitch you could give away the meaning by just using body language like Matt does.

>>21229925
Unfortunately I doubt there's much eroge that caters to my tastes. I know, I'm setting myself up for failure even more. But I gotta give it a shot, for my /cm/ bros in need.
>do what you want to do and learn nihongo on the way
What a nice way of putting it. Thank you for the motivation based anon, I'll lurk now.

>>21229933

>>21229939
what

>>21229886
What's the difference between using yomichan and copy-pasting on google translate?

>>21229950
w hat wat? sa ywha tagain to sjee how I will fuckin kick ya ass

>>21229955
faster

>>21229959
Then Google > Yomichan for learning?

>>21229955
using google translate consumes more energy and is worse for the environment

>>21229955
gt sucks. Use jisho

>>21229946
theres someone else who might show up to give u a couple recs if ur lucky
if im not mixin people up most of the time he just plays plotge instead though cuz it is scarce
gambare

use offline dictionaries for fucks sake
qolibri with epwings recommended

>>21229966
>>21229961
>>21229959
What's the point of not using Yomichan? I find something I don't know, search it on yomicha, and write it down on my notebook. How is this not helping me?

keep getting 過ごし / すごく / すぐ mixed up in my head ffs

>>21229970
nothing wrong with yomichan, i just don't know why someone'd consider comparing to using google translate which is a ridiculously worse alternative and not even in the same category

>>21229970
ok obviously if youre writing it in your notebook youre doing something with it other than hovering for 2 seconds and moving on. the point is to spend more time with the word on each encounter than solely just yomichanning it would allow you to.

majicha has a really annoying choice/simulation system so rev up that guide

why the fuck do people use google translate for serious language study i will never understand
like i know a lot of dekinais irl who always use google translate for japanese and im just thinking why the fuck

if you actually want to spend more time with a word, I suggest you buy a huge blackboard and write it down like 100 times.

slower doesnt make u learn nihongo better
even if the kanji of the word sticks better ur readin less lines and the bigger pause in ur flow aint helpin either
its all pros and cons and id rather get more input than get a word down slightly faster

>>21229986
Jisho is way better.

>>21229909
>that was at the beginning
this is what virtually everyone thinks though and it's what he's trying to advise against even though that's exactly what he did. do core10k as a base then learn more from reading. rarepotato just set a death point on his cards. whoop de doo.

How do you guys know the correct stroke order without fucking memorizing?

>>21229997
if u learn the stroke order for like 100 kanji u will be right 95% of the time
if u learn the stroke order for like 300 u will be right 99% of the time

>>21230004
Isn't there any rule? Also, some of the time I feel like stroke orders are somewhat unnatural and I can probably write the kanji in a different way that is both faster and makes the kanji look better.

>>21229363
>>21229380
>>21229515
>>21229570
Manga isn't reading though.

>>21229997
you don't need to memorize a different pattern for every kanji just the simple parts that make them all up

>>21230010
kys

>>21230012
Keep yourself safe? I always do, thank you.

>>21230008
https://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/stroke-order.html
google is your friend

>>21229986
Umm why not use everything lol? You can write out kanji in google and even talk to it. I can look up a sentence in 2 seconds by saying it. 50 times a day I find myself just talking to google to look up words. If I want to know more then I jisho, zokugo, kanshudo, or ojad it.

>>21229995
a really short death point is actually really important though. that could be the difference between 15 hours of reviewing versus 100.

>>21230008
there are rules and you should be able to figure them out pretty quick through exposure

>>21230017
fuck off and let people read the contents of their 吹き出し in peace

>>21230008
there are patterns and there are exceptions
sometimes chinese stroke order makes more sense
it doesnt look better to a native if its not what the native expects to see

>>21229921
>>>/wsg/2815517
>>>/wsg/2815523

>>21229363
Don't worry anon, 2 months ago I did the same (even without reading the grammar guide) and it took me like 15 minutes per page in the beginning, but after around 30-50 pages I got way faster and after 100 pages even faster. You'll progress very fast, don't give up yet.

>>21230035
They can read what they want I'm not stopping them.

>>21230037
I can't understand her where the subs at?

>>21230035
rate my scanlation >>21228834

>>21230043
manga isnt reading though ? uve lost it its all gone no one can ever take u seriously again

>>21230048
funny, I always add a lot of slang when I translate too, the added vagueness works well in nihongo

>>21230051
You can read the contents of a 吹き出し though? That has nothing to do with manga being reading or not.

>>21230036
Nobody will ever get me to write 必 with the """proper""" stroke order.

>>21230046
If you need subs for something as simple as that then I have some bad news for you.

>>21229995
even if they're using anki extensively, why the ***ACTUAL FUCK*** should anyone do core10k instead of mining? you're out of your fucking mind

would be quite impressed if i encountered a stranger who knew the correct stroke orders for 何　右　左　必　and 鬱

>>21230060
nope uve lost it ur tale ends here
>>21230064
after u do it a hundred times u forget how fuckin dumb it is lol

>>21229824
https://youtu.be/4ztOV2wrrkY

>>21230064
You should buy one of those 3DS kanken games that will teach you the correct stroke order for all the Kanji.

>>21230070
who said they should you illiterate dumb fuck

>>21230067
Hey fuck you you ugly bitch I will learn japanese. The chances I learn Japanese are as big as the gap between your dead eyes.

I WILL LEARN NIHONGO.

>>21230060
manga isnt reading tho

u do read it but its not reading the same way a magazine or sports page is not reading

basically its a question of what is literature and its frankly well beyond the scope of these threads

>>21230071
>鬱
Is this a joke? Who doesn't know this one?

>>21230073
i saw that the last time it got linked

>>21229886
>rarepotato65
literally who

>>21230072
K stay delusional bud like all the other dorks in here lol.

>>21230088
You're kind of close but it's not a question.

鬱ぎ込んでる場合じゃない

give me the quick and dirty on the rare potato guy so i can make it into a gimmick

Is 君 an improper way to address a girl or is she just being a bully?

>>21230071
>右　左
first and third stroke are same direction ez applies to most kanji with ナ i think theres an exception or 2 i dont remember lol
>>21230095
if it makes u feel better i havent ate a manga in half a year and i even supported ur shit at one time but times change and ur forced meme is out of fashion

>>21230103
it's kawaii as fuck

>>21230103
... isn't the core of that manga that she's a bully? 君 is okay for girls, if you're acquainted with them, as far as I know

>>21230089
>鬱
I don't know it...

didn't even knew that kanji.

>>21230103
idk I say kimi to girls in japan town and they seem ok with it, prolly matters if you're ugly or not

>>21230079
you did right fucking here bucko
>do core10k as a base then learn more from reading.
when you start a sentence on an unmarked infinitive it is always, 100% of the time, interpreted as an imperative, so you're telling people to do core10k outright

>>21230113
Yeah, but you can bully for justified reasons though.

>>21230088
kys

>>21230114
its like the 3rd kanji u should learn by heart to write after 人 and 口

憂鬱

>>21230124
wasn't that 私？

ウツってかんじ知りますか？

think the first kanji i wrote was 後　or 曜

>>21229928
fucking madhouse

can't believe how much they shat up the adaptation with cgi

i knew how to read 鬱 before i knew my ganas but i never learned to write it lol

>>21230137
get with the times gramps cg is good now when not used for like background filler characters

>>21230110
It's not a meme.
No it actually makes me feel sad when I see people not watching manga because manga is good.

"manga isn't reading" guy

VNs are boring, Manga are way better.

Wish there was a dictionary that gave me the meaning of the world instead what it translates to:

I.E.

友：: one attached to another by affection or esteem．

Is there something like that?

it's a meme
ironic shitposting is just shitposting

>>21230145
its got some substance to it like >>21230088 said but the way u approach it is very meme
>>21230147
why didnt u use the text full of hearts

>>21230117
from context it's obvious that sentence is an elaboration on the previous one.
>it is always, 100% of the time, interpreted
language doesn't work that way.

>>21230147
Imagine taking the bait this much.

>>21230158
>from context it's obvious that sentence is an elaboration on the previous one.
wrong you just don't know english
>language doesn't work that way.
some things are absolute. this is one of those things that is absolute

>>21230168
ok, you baited me good.

>>21230155
>Is there something like that?
Yeah, it's called a Japanese dictionary.

>>21230173
yes but the definitions in english.

>>21230172
post your TOEFL score bud

>>21230166
imagine being a braindead elitist repeating the same shit every day for months

>>21230177
no. learn japanese.

>>21230178
didn't even know what that was, but now it makes sense. i assumed you were an ESL for referring to a meaningless rule when trying to interpret colloquial speech.

>reading something and enjoying it and actually getting better
>author starts writing some useless romance
Why. Why can't I just read anything without fucking romance.

>>21230181
I'm not, but I'm also not a braindead newfag who takes his bait and encourages his behaviour like you do. Just ignore him.

>>21230147

if u know wanna know what is reading take it from someone smarter than u

https://streamable.com/jer6e

>>21230188
lol if you think im esl you've got problems
stop trying to use grammatical constructions you don't understand
you need to mark the infinitive ("to do"), delete the verb entirely, or use a gerund ("doing"). flat out, 100%. otherwise it's either an imperative or it's not a sentence. you were going for the version without the verb but inserted the verb for no reason and said something you weren't trying to say, good job. doesn't mean it's valid

>>21230202
her accent's pretty good too bad she said vocabularies tho lol

>>21230196
>>21230193
>>I'm also not braindead
sure you're not

>>21230202
Imagine having Matt's hairline at 12... as a girl. JUST.

>>21230208
yah chances are shell make mistakes like that forever if gone uncorrected lol

>>21230207
you can violate all sorts of so-called "rules" in colloquial speech. that you insist on referring to them doesn't make sense. you don't have to "mark the infinitive" or any of the meaningless stuff you're bringing up.

>>21230211
>falls for obvious bait and gets angry at it
>"no guys, ur the dumb ones!!!1!"

>>21230212
wow thats fucked up cant unsee lmfao

>>21230207
i get what ur sayin and i got the wrong impression from his post but i disagree with ur assertion that what he said isnt allowed in colloquial speech i mean just look at my posts lol

>>21230216
you violate can sorts of all "rules" so-called in speech colloquial. you insist referring that on to them sense make doesn't. you have don't "mark the infinitive" to or of any the stuff meaningless re'you upbringing.
>that you insist on
ESL detected

>>21230217
>has a high tolerance for idiocy because is also an idiot
>wow ur like so dumb for thinking dumb stuff is dumb

>>21230219
no man i'm not talking about allowed or disallowed he just said something entirely the wrong way and it meant something other than what he was saying that's completely on him

>>21230224
>>that you insist on
>ESL detected
actually no let me amend this
ESL or dumb highschooler trying to sound smart detected*

>>21230224
the more rules you follow the more coherent you'll be but there's a gray area.

>>21230232
you can break all the rules you want, real and fake, i don't care, but if you say something you're not actually trying to say and someone gets mad at you that's on you, own up to it

honestly i cant understand most of the words in this post >>21230207

狭義

>>21230235
basically he's some faggot showing off his made up 10th grade grammar

>>21230229
u can say it sounded different than intended but when u get into this big debate about rules is when u start to look dumb lol majority of natives dont know the words ur usin and make mistakes like that and it all works out in the end without anyone gettin too upset
>>21230233
>and someone gets mad
u guys really need to learn more from this pic and live a more relaxed life lol

>>21230235
>infinitive
want [to go] home
go [send] a letter
>gerund
[running]
>imperative
run!
>>21230242
if you think someone is showing off because they use 5th grade grammar words you're an idiot

>>21230233
i think it's fair to call someone a dumbfuck if they don't understand colloquial speech

>>21230182
But what the fuck am I supposed to do if I can't even understand the definitions of simple words?

>>21230238
oh let me try this one

kyouhgo?

>>21230243
im glad u can appreciate that 1

every1 should just play that game its ftw

>>21230246
this ain't colloquial this is you tryin to make somethin out of nothin chill out and own it

>>21230245
>if you think someone is showing off because they use 5th grade grammar words you're an idiot
amerishits do this all the time lol clearly you're a fucking edgy sub 20 year old

>>21230253
don't give a shit and wrong

ご賞味あれ

what does this mean yomichan failing on me today.

>>21230245
so let me see if i understand this all by myself

infinitive - dictionary form

gerund - -ing words

imperative - commands

?

As people wondered what I was still mining with 17k cards in the last thread I thought it might be interesting to again start sharing some cards that I make just so you get an idea, you know like I did some time ago.

https://streamable.com/80jlo

Fuck, this bitch was right.
I just reread a manga (>inb4 manga isn't reading) in English, to see how well I understood the plot during my Japanese reading.
There are big parts of the plot I understood completely wrong, even though I looked up a lot of words.
It's impossible.

>>21230224
Well done.

>>21230257
you're this little faggot aren't you >>21229698

>>21230252
you went on an autistic rant about "technically correct" language though.

rereading stuff is mad win just dont be ocd about it

>>21230259
>infinitive - dictionary form
yes but only for english, that's not actually how it's defined
>>21230264
nope
>>21230265
did not

>>21230262
Its worse when you read a novel and then read the manga/ watch the anime. Context helps so fucking much.

>>21230262
itll be like that dont obsess over it and read more

>>21230270
ok i mean more like by "dictionary form" the base word that u could attach -ing to to make it a gerund ?

>>21230261
i dont even know english but lmao at not knowing literally all of those and thinking u are gonna get kanken 2 in a year lmfao

>>21230277
the infinitive is the form that's used inside of other verb phrases instead of being the main verb of a statement, but is also not a noun or adjective like the gerund and participles are

>>21230277
I'd be able to guess the readings as it's all known Kanji but I haven't seen those words before.
Still don't think kanken 2 in a year is too hard. It's 1 year and 2 months btw if you forgot.

>>21230281
>participles

>>21230261
didnt u already mine 長寿 think ive seen it in a flash card video

>>21230261
man your mining strat looks both fun and daunting at the same time.

They look hard to make, but using those anime cards to review words seems like they could help a lot.

>>21230258
お召し上がりください

>>21230286
Nope.

>>21230287
It takes a bit of setting up but the actual card making is super easy.
>>21209313

>Native Japanese speaker writes something wrong
>DJT tries their hardest to make it look like its just some obscure Japanese grammar rule.

>ESL writes something wrong.
>DJT goes full autismo on the guy.

what gives?

>>21230301
who wrote something wrong