/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Dude how can people understand hiragana-only text?-

all it took was a little kick in the ass to get u to post

do it faster next time

>>21362184
idk dude i just understand it *grabs nearest book and flips all the pages*

asobi no jikan wa owari da

>>21362184
口語 is hiragana

asobi no jikan wa right now da

>TFW my decks got fucked up for some stupid reason.

What now? Really don't feel like starting VNCore from the beginning.

Should I mine my own deck now?

>>21362207
yeah

>>21362184
All you have to do is watch anime and hiragana only is easy

>>21362207
yea
you're thinking small scale shit
best thing ive done in my life was delete core 6k

>>21361954
>>21361966
I mean I've beaten people with more Kanji in the grid than me quite a few times, some people are really inefficient and forget tons of shit.

>>21362211
>>21362213
Do I have to do all this record audio shit and copy sentences too? Seems like a bit of a hassle desu.

>>21362217
no

>>21362207
Congrats, Anki is telling you to drop VN Core and start mining like a good boy.

>>21362217
you don't have to

yea just mine like that 1 kid who couldnt even write 目を回す in kana lmfao

>>21362217
if you dont do sentences youre fucked no one has gotten good without sentence cards

>>21362229
off yourself

no one has gotten good with them either tho

>>21362229

My wpm goes through the roof on no-faps.

dont all the arrogant n4s pounce at once now

too bad we all give no-craps

wpm is outdated everything's tts now

>>21362239
stop posting moedork

All you need is to copy the sentence and highlight the word, is not that hard.

All you need is to watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime, is not that hard.

>>21362244
dont tell me what to do trashcan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018#t=1158

lmfao

>>21362251
so should we call u moedork or trashcan ??

>>21362244

>>21362255
omae ga kys subeki da

Put a wa i in there to make it more forceful

>>21362261
>>21362239

>>21362173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7lns-ovUSM&feature=youtu.be&t=52

https://streamable.com/cp62l

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-WBkcS018#t=1158

behold the fluency of sir geroge tromblow

>>21362272
>sir geroge tromblow

Is he a king now? Of what house?

>tetsudou yo

Translated literally does it mean something like "I'm iron"? Because the word for iron in japanese is Tetsu. So would it be like me going up to people and offering them my help by saying "Hey, I'm iron!"

>>21362284

>>21362284
I'm iron down there boi

>>21362282
casa de la desde cero

>>21362284
ay por dios

>>21362296
Sir Tromblow from house Desdi Cero?

Sound cool.

>>21362298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ2ehdzxeXk

>>21362300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vbZMpRTT5M

Spanish banger time?

愛液

>>21362316
hot

>>21362316

How do I get better fonts?

>>21362325
I will never understand this way of writing onna

woops wrong 1

>>21362334
fonts are fun

lol

guys i need serious help
i can't stop watching 3d porn
i can't stop watching niggers fucking white girls
my life is a mess...
i just want to read my cute vns...

>>21362360
nigger false flag also kys either way

>>21362363
but i'm serious i don't want kms
i want to die of old age watching my cute 2d waifus

>>21362365
do fucking shit then u stupid fuck

>>21362365
do the thing you wanna do

Man I miss the 90s

Did kitsunekko died?

>>21362388
same ._.

wow this is devastating

tho dokuro tyan is not 90s

>>21362390
well this is awkward

>>21362388
pipirupiru
pipipirupi

sugei

>>21362397

>>21362390
i-it's going to come back, right...?

>>21362390
what the FUCK this can't be happening

>>21362422

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL3remBDiy0

Kitsunekko was a bullshit site anyway. Might as well make use of the opportunity to create a better Japanese subtitle ressource.

美味しい

I should've downloaded all the subtitles now the site is down. I wonder who's behind all of this.

>>21362499
that'll be hard without the subs

There is still these.

guess now its time to get back on track and watch them eng subs eh mates

>>21362519
kys

So how many VNs do I need to texthook my ass through before I'm fluent

>>21362502
Honestly what the fuck are you doing here? Imagine the fat virgin behind this post completely oblivious of what the fuck he is doing, where the fuck he actually is giggling to himself about posting literal /b/ shit outside his designated containment zone.

Fuck off.

>>21362530
0

>>21362533
Don't encourage him

You can still grab subs from webarchive.

>>21362530
At least 50, as Jamal has said before.

>>21362533
relax pussy nerd

>>21362530
I think you should play 1 vn and 1 JRPG simulatiously, play the JRPG with no jisho or texthooker.

If you mindlessly just hover over you will not learn anything.

>>21362530
just do whatever as long as ur not ignoring japanese itll be of benefit

I have an backup of the subs but it'd take me five hundred years to upload them so just hope that they come back
But if someone need subs right now you can reply to me I can upload small amounts

>>21362550
I mean I can get by without the texthooker, I only use it to easily mine for Anki.

I'm very Jisho dependent though. Mindlessly hovering isn't the method, it's more a methodical assessment of everything I don't actually know.

>>21362563
this post gave me aid`s

>>21362559
Post a list of what's available first.

>>21362540
No? http://kitsunekko.net/subtitles/japanese/boku%20dake%20ga%20inai%20machi/Boku%20dake%20ga%20inai%20machi.rar

>>21362559
at least they're not lost i guess

>>21362573
that's not webarchive

>>21362567
Thanks for the insight.

At least I'm not fucking logposting

>>21362578
http://web.archive.org/web/20170630211242/http://kitsunekko.net/subtitles/japanese/boku%20dake%20ga%20inai%20machi/Boku%20dake%20ga%20inai%20machi.rar

>>21362499
daiweeb

>>21362573
https://web.archive.org/web/20170630232247/http://kitsunekko.net/subtitles/japanese/Boku%20dake%20ga%20Inai%20Machi%20(resynced)/[Kamigami]%20Boku%20dake%20ga%20Inai%20Machi%20(Synced%20for%20HorribleSubs).rar

>>21362563
Unless you absolutely can't understand what you are supposed to do I say no to use jisho on JRPG so you are forced to understand context clues.

I recommend straightfoward JRPGs like persona 3/4/5.

>>21362591
Hrm.
The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL.

This page is not available on the web

because request is invalid

Click here to search for all archived pages under

>>21362579
no please tell us more about ur methodical assessment of everything u dont know by going to jisho.org

>>21362592
Shit as long as they don't let you download video and subtitle.

>>21362570
https://pastebin.com/smGFxqFL

>>21362606
why would you want to as long as you have internet connection?

>>21362605
That's obviously not what I said nor implied, but I see how a double digit IQ interpretation of my words could get you there.

Still embarrassed at my own lack of foresight to save all subs before this 不祥事

>>21362616
Is it possible to do a website that users can add subtitles wiki-style, then if a subtitle doesn't exist a user can just add them

>>21362625
have u ever just considered that instead of my iq being below urs its actually just several dozen points higher and this ur inability to understand me makes ur mongoloid male peabrain cry retard instead of genius since males are genetically programmed to think higher of themselves than others despite whether or not thats the reality ? lmfao

>>21362390
I downloaded all the subs from the site a few weeks ago, but since I'm not sure if uploading them is a violation of copyright law or whatever you'll have to settle for me uploading them to uguu.se (temporary filehost where all links die after 24 hours) or not at all.

The total size of the subs is 3.6GB and my internet is slow as shit so I'm not going to do it unless I know there's interest.

>>21362597
I liked that anime btw, the scene where they hit kayo was amazing

>>21362662
wow is that peak edge for zoomers these days lmfao

>>21362660
What? Mine are over 20GB

>>21362660
why don't you... upload them to.. github, I mean is just text right

>>21362660
onegai

>>21362660
I'd say just wait.
Most of the subs are still available on webarchive and it might be a temporary issue.

>>21362666
Are you sure? I downloaded using the "Download all subtitles" link on the main page of the site and it gave me a 3.6GB zip folder.

I'll have a look through archive.org's most recent capture and make sure the zip I have isn't a really old one with tons of shit missing from it.

>>21362698
It's very much possible to compress 20gb of text into 3gb. Maybe that's where the difference is between you and him?

>>21362666
>>21362698
might be the zip compression

>>21362698
I did the same thing. Mine is the pastebin that was posted

Are there any Japanese torrent trackers? Want to play the Japanese version of FFVII remaster but can't change the language to Japanese on the Steam version.

>>21362707
These are 一回り too big

>>21362701
wheres the meshi

>>21362700
>>21362702
No. Unzipped it's still only 4.3GB and it does indeed look like I'm missing a bunch of stuff, so that zip on the main page must've been made a while back and never updated.

Sorry to get everyone's hopes up. I can still upload what I do have, but I think it would be better if >>21362666 just uploaded what he has somewhere instead.

>>21362707
I don't know where to get stuff for more modern systems, but in case anyone is interested in older games, this site has a sizeable collection of JP roms.
https://edgeemu.net/

>>21362666
>>21362666
trips of satan saved the day

>>21362533

成人為る

>>21362725
Yeah, but as I said, my internet is shitty so I probably can't upload the entire collection at once, so I could just download folders by folders over a longer time period and until then send just everything someone needs

>>21362737
dude commence a p2p portal to your local electrical circuit system so we might gain access to all of these files.

>>21362737
>my internet is shitty
How shitty are we talking?

can't you upload every .ass file to pastebin.

Just learned all the kana in a week. Where do I go from here? Started with Tae Kim and vcore 2k. Should I mine for sentences?

Oh shit guys I might actually get a job in Japan thanks to my dad.

Holy fuck bros.

Just zip it up and upload it to mega. These people who claim they can't upload shit are hindered by nothing but lack of brain.

>>21362754
h-how does that benefit me

>>21362762
You probably wont see my shitposts around here anymore.

>>21362754
must be nice having nice genetics.

>>21362719
Okay, plottwist: Windows explorer indeed says that the folder is 26GB big (pic related). I put it into a different program and am in the progess of zipping the files and it's only 4.4GB in another program (treesize if anyone cares).
>>21362747
7 MBit/s in upload
It's not that bad but uploading 20GB would take a while

>>21362766
oh but you will now complain about long work hours and being a wageslave or something

Use WinRK 3.1.2 before uploading. it will turn the 20gb into 4.
https://www.maximumcompression.com/data/text.gif

>>21362768
defragment your hard drive, holy fuck

>>21362768

There is no way in hell for text subtitles to get anywhere close to that size. Either it is image subtitles that take up 99% of that space or you got some other shit in there. Get rid of the image subtitles and you can upload the text subtitles no problem.

>>21362754
lol imagine being giddy to get a job

>>21362770
Ehh I'm basically just going to be there 9 out of 12 months. And all I will do is drive couple of hours to a lab and repair equipment and then go back home and reply to email and order pieces if needed.

>>21362781
lol like any1 knows what that means in 2019

>>21362782
explorer displays the folder bigger then it is for some reason, if according to the other anon then because my hard drive is fragmented
>>21362781
will do

>>21362768
windows 10 cant count filesizes anymore

>>21362792
... why?

>>21362780
>not uzing 7zip deep compression which is DEEP and FAST

>>21362768
>7 MBit/s in upload
That's way faster than mine ( >>21362719 ) lol.

My upload speed is 100kB/s.

>>21362782
There are (were ;_;) a lot of .SUP files on kitsunekko.

>>21362754
if we were friends, I wouldn't know what to tell you, like I know you'd expect me to cheer for you, but I'd be too envious to fake being happy for you.

>>21362800
speedtest said 7Mbit/s, actual upload looks like this

>>21362802
>Not cheering you bro and low key make him present you a cute jap girl to marry.

>>21362807
1MB = 8Mbit

You're uploading even faster than the speedtest said you would be.

>>21362807
just upload it faggot leave your computer on for 1 day

>>21362802
Then you wouldn't be friends. What the fuck?
Are you a female by any chance? If one of my bros was to get amazing shit done I'd congratulate them even if I'm having a bad day.

>>21362813
dude the site will be up in a day if we wait. the guy prolly just fucked up big time

>>21362812
Okay, I never learned the conversions for these things ... internet speed wasn't that important for me since I quitted playing on online servers
>>21362813
Don't insult me, what do you think I'm doing? I'm uploading it.

>>21362810
u really live in lala land lmfao

>>21362815
>implying there are women in the internet
have sex

>>21362815
girls that aren't assholes gratulate their friends too. If she's a girl, she's a bitch.

im a girl and not the tranny kind were out here and we all know japanese cuz were not sitting around jacking off all day and sucking gaijin eceleb dick lmao

>>21362817
>>21362813
ok lets do some math
20gb=20000mb
1MB/s is 20000 seconds
20000 seconds is 5,5555556 hours
HMMM

>>21362821
>>21362824
Neither me nor my friends would be bitter about someone else from our circle achieving something cool, and I honestly can't say I ever met a dude that was like that. I hear about it among women all the time though, what with the talking shit behind someone's back and passive aggressiveness. Maybe I'm just too much a virgin.

>>21362825
open bob

i hope that slow internet dude just says fuck u all and doesnt upload ur stupid nub subs

>>21362815
the problem is that I can't get the energy to cheer them up, yeah, I know.

>>21362796
i dont know what its doin i just know i have subdirs it says are bigger than dir theyre in
other tools dont fuck it up but when there are a lot of files ive seen windows explorer go under by a factor of 10
havent seen it report a bigger size like that before on my end but its def fucked

>>21362768
>treesize
Never heard of this. What format are you compressing them to? Make sure it's something common like zip, 7z or rar that doesn't require some obscure program to decompress. Not all of us are on Windows.

You'll probably get better results just using 7zip, desu.

>>21362836
bunch of noobs xD

He is already uploading it. I hope it's not in plain text form

>>21362851
I compressed them with 7zip
treesize just displays the sizes of folders and subfolders and files so you spot what's eating your hard drive space, I used it to look what's so big and it spat out a different size than explorer

bola de noobs jeje

>>21362864
nihongo or eigo only pls

>>21362860
It's whatever was on kitsunekko when I downloaded it
My download is from late 2018 though so the newest stuff isn't one there, sorry

>>21362860
i hope he condensed every sub in2 1 giant txt file no formatting no word wrap

>>21362872
why do you say such things

>>21362876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npikFbIB7kE#t=55

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but what is the best VN text hook and parser for someone with a good grasp of grammar but poor vocab/kanji knowledge?

Years ago it was Chiitrans Lite, but that was abandonware even then. Something that overlays the game in full screen would be optimal, but quality parsing is the main thing.

rap guy just has to be m*tt. he did review or recommend a rap video before iirc.

just do it the honest way and look up by rad or writing

if ur actually genuinely pretty solid at japanese and just arent strong at kanji then its a worthwhile skill to hone and it doesnt take too long to get super good at it and as a result u notice things in kanji since ur working directly with them instead of letting the noob proggies do the working

>>21362887

>>>/trash/23151619

itd be pretty funny if i was matto

everyone who uses anki, remember to use it skillfully. if you know the words 直接 and 無視 already, don't add 直視 to your deck. what's the point? you're pretty much guaranteed to know it after like two encounters.

but don't get me wrong, not every 熟語 is like this. even if you know both readings and have experience with both kanji, the meaning of the word can be slightly or even significantly different from what you'd expect. in those cases go ahead and add it. just be smart. anki is for things you wouldn't pick up naturally in a short amount of time.

>>21362754
what kind of job?

telling ppl to use anki skillfully is like telling a baby to eat dirt skillfully when really hes doing it cuz hes vitamin deficient cuz his deadbeat parents dont feed him the right foods

>>21362903
Yea but then you see stuff like 具申 and you abandon all hope of ever knowing all of the japanese.

>>21362723
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/library/game.html

get ur games while they last turds

>>21362913
because eating dirt is definitely equivalent to learning thousands of foreign language words in the most efficient amount of time right. shutup dude.

>>21362913
this is really uncalled for. that post is one of those good ones we see every 3-4 threads. I even deleted my post because of it.

>>21362923
Can't believe I never noticed this.
Thanks anon

>>21362928
lol

>>21362929
ur standard for good posts is pretty low but its not ur fault this thread is a desert and when u have an opportunity to eat and pound something other than sand it seems like a real banquet

>>21362912
Going to labs, check if machines are working alright, and if not, fix them.

But really 75% of the job is driving to the location, last time I went with my dad we spent 3-4 hours on the road just to get to the lab, just to repair the thing in less than 10 minutes and go back home and do some BBQ.

>>21362891
I’m strong at grammar, not the language in general, I studied it in uni years ago and never used it since.
If I have to jisho my way through it, I will lose all desire to read the VN, and I don’t want to grind kanji to get up to speed before I start doing anything with it.
I’m going with Chiitrans if I get no better suggestions, I don’t need alternate philosophies on the matter.

>>21362942
that reminds me of how I fucked up by sending a job application (my dad called the guy from the company) and first sent the wrong folder and corrected myself in a second email and now all I feel is dread
It's a small company though so maybe they'll forgive me but who knows

>>21362948
If what you sent was not a porn vn then you will probably be ok

>>21362947
like i said u get so fast at it that u look shit up in less than 10 seconds

its a worthwhile skill and if u just rely on baby tools u never develop ur own skills and thus never learn japanese

this is ur final warning from me do what ur gonna do and become another scrub lost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u3KAaU7kFs#t=46

If I was the boss of a small company and someone sent me a good ass hentai VN alongside their resume I would hire them

>>21362960
I want you to be my boss

>>21362956
Nah, I just had a project file and in the project file was still a adressment to another person I applied to because I zipped the wrong folder like an idiot
>>21362960
You made me laugh, thanks

>>21362958
shut the fuck up lol

>>21362960
obviously cuz they are prolly pretty solid as a person

>>21362974
squeal piggy cuz u got nothin to say when u stand before a real ninja

>Mato, legendary translator of anime and the Mother 3 fan translation, recommends classes over self-study for learning Japanese
What say you, /djt/?

>>21362984
>300 dollars to learn kanas and around 80 kanji

no thx

if u have access to japanese resources in the form of other human beings as a result its worthwhile

language is and always has been about the people

neglecting that very basic notion causes u to stunt ur growth and become kogo the klown

>>21362984
Classes suck. I took them for several languages (English, Latin, Italian) and they all sucked. I only speak English because of the internet, aka because of self-study.

>>21362958
so I had to read the youtube comments to understand this scene, what happened is that he gave him a kidney from a patient with rabies because he was hasty, but he could've waited another month, and that killed him.

>>21362991
classes are good if you are beginner motivated, they stop being effective at b2 level or jlpt n4 in which case only self study and assesments test can help you, and god.

>>21362994
too desperate to save them now and as a result lead them to ruin

>>21362980
say that to me irl and not online, see what happens

not gonna lie i laughed at some of jamal's posts just now

>>21363002
offline real ninjas dont chit chat they light u up with kunais and jutsus and shit

ud never even see it comin squiddo

>>21362991
>take english classes both in my private high school and a paid private teacher for around 4 years
>still shit
>Watch shit ton of youtubers in english with english subtitles and an english dictionary
>become fluent in less than 6 months.

Woah.

>>21363007
>Tfw I learned English watching a swedish guy scream.

>>21362991
>it’s another retard thinks he can learn Japanese by watching anime in his 20s because he learned english through television and games when he was 6 episode

>>21363007
but lets be honest english is easy
english is the easiest language besides spanish

if u watch 10000 hours of eng subbed anime it doesnt matter how old u r u will gain what u need to start ur nihongo journey proper

>>21363011
are you german

>>21363015
actually it would probably work with w/o subs, but you'd have to focus on what they're saying really hard and you'd get bored at your age

>>21363018
Only in my sex life.

>>21363011
I don't learn Japanese by watching anime lmao, Japanese isn't English
I'm just pointing out that classes don't lead to success (for me)

>>21363011
not that guy but i actually learned english around 17-20
i don't see why i can't learn japanese now

>>21363022
Why learn like you were a baby with no language? That way is slower.

The Japanese subtitles are here:
https://mega.nz/#!zI91EQRR!bxjJQ7550bh6vaTRjW6zYrWSvJNI9NDAybm820JKyPc
Have fun and I wish you success in your studies. And life in general.

>>21363032
you won't for the life of you focus on what they are saying if you have the dubs, you won't learn fucking cantonese if you listen for 10000 hours cantonese tv stations with eng subs

>>21363036
god bless

>>21363038
You're welcome. I've also have downloads of a load of the novels from the DJT library (and additional ones) as my calibre library, and whenever I manage to get a bigger hard drive or a portable one I'll start downloading the mangas too (I only have a few of them because I lack in space)
But I probably wouldn't re-up the entire manga library because it's just so much

>>21363030
I didn’t say you can’t learn, I said you can’t learn it via absorption

>>21363036
thank you very much

Is there any entry level eroge I could buy on steam you guys can recommend? Full voice acting and non censored nudity would be a big plus.

>>21363036
thanks dude

>>21363060
>I said you can’t learn it via absorption
so how could i learn japanese then

>>21363063
I don’t think FSN is on steam breh

>>21363068
By actually studying?

>>21363074
Well with entry level I meant easy to understand and as few kanji as humanly possible.

>>21363063
the entry level eroge is the 1 u wanna read dude

also uncensored is actually the worst shit ever i found this out the hard way when i saw a classic characters weird uncensored hentai vagina and the way it looked it totally ruined the character for me

some things are just better not known

>>21363077
what do you consider studying

>>21363080
>few kanji
that's not how to learn japanese

>>21363083
I'm not learning japanese I'm learning nippongo

Just do RTK dude lol...

>>21363082
Are you retarded?

>>21363036
ZIP file is 4gb but the actual folder doesn't even amount to 200mb. What is that?

>>21363091
no i'm asking you to define your terms
what exact actions let someone learn japanese?

>>21363081
Are there no VNs with official uncensored nudity for the west? I can see how this could be bad, if it's only rushed or basically doujined.

>>21363091
>>21363077
>>21363060
/r/learnjapanese is leaking again

so I have a question,
I want to know the difference between
sonna and sonna ni, I still don't understand some aspects of it, or maybe I do so I want to see if I am right.

"sonna" can be used either alone, to mean "how?".
or sonna + noun, to mean: "like that [noun]" and it is considered as just an adjective.

"sonna ni" on the other hand is an adverb, and it roughly means: "[verb]ing like that [whatever]"

did I get it right? Yes, I'm reading Tae Kim guide to japanese, this questions originates from the usage of his examples.

>>21363077
I bet you buy textbooks too.

>>21363099
i was talkin about the official stuff dude

>>21363098
Conscious, purposeful analysation of grammar, vocabulary and writing and its application in practice, IE not just watching cartoons or otherwise “immersing” yourself in the language

>>21363111
You are the same guy who keeps asking these bullshit questions "difference between x and y" aren't you
fuck off already you retard

>>21363122
oh boy
we're done here

>>21363122
lol

>>21363093
>>21363107
I don't know, man. I just zipped the folder I had and uploaded it. Maybe it's the same issue why explorer displayed it as 26GB for me? I just unzipped it again and everything's fine, it just displays as 26GB for me again. I also posted a pastebin with the folder list.

>>21363127
wow, that's mean

>>21363122
way to out yourself as a retard lmao

>>21363122
the only rational poster

well boys its time to start savin this thread again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ynDj1owczE

>>21363122
minna-san point at him and laugh

>>21363141
>>21363131
>>21363133
>haha I have it figured out I’ll just watch anime like the past 10 years but now I’ll learn Japanese like Antonio Banderas in 13th Warrior
lol

>>21363136
Well it has Youjo Senki so alls good

>>21363122
define analysation of vocabulary

>>21363163
start>chrome.exe>https://jisho.org lol

>>21363122
I'd like to see the mental gymnastics you'll pull off explaining away polyglots that never look at grammatical structure when learning a language.

>>21363171
why explain it when u can just post instant proof and win hard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c5Xy3GZCac#t=535

>>21363171
a lot of polyglots are hacks and pretty shit
that said he's evidently wrong, nobody ever gets fluent with a textbook
the gains are always in massive amounts of input

>>21363122
THUNDERKEK for that one my friend.

>>21363122
"applications in practice"
You mean immersing yourself in the language
"purposeful analysation of grammar"
Grammar is just a model to describe an organically, ever-changing phenomenon you fuckass. People make up the grammar, not books written by grammar nerds.

>>21363171
>I'd like to see the mental gymnastics you'll pull off explaining away <0.00001% outliers that have capabilities I never will but help me convince myself I don’t have to put in work in my pursuits

>>21363177
LMAO

does a deck exist which teaches only the most common hiragana words and no kanji? I'd rather learn the kanji separately

>>21363177
steve's big kougo moment

>>21363205
retarded

>>21363195
The problem is that your definition prohibits even these outliers to exist, since you are saying what they're doing isn't "learning". Your definition of learning therefore is wrong.
Also,
><0.00001%
I hope you're being hyperbolic.

>>21363205
If you don't wanna learn 漢字, you should be learning Korean instead of Nippongo.

>>21363122
i support readin a bit here and there on the grammar but lol at consciously analyzing it just read more

>>21363205

>>21363192
>grammar changes over decades
>that means you don’t need grammar to understand and be understand in the point in time you are currently inhabiting
Good news, you don’t need to learn traffic rules lol, they will just change again lol

>>21363205
>I'd rather learn the kanji separately
bad idea, just learn them as vocab
thank me later

>>21363205
whats ur fuckin problem

is it so hard to comprehend the difference between the word "separately" and not at all?

You know this would all be resolved if you started the discussion by challenging the guy to a quiz instead of gearing up for an hour long argument about some dumb bullshit.

i mean no one learns grammar before learning the language

its just not a thing that happens or is even possible

prove me wrong also dont @ me if u dont have a high enough iq for mensa to constantly ask u to join

>>21363231
we all comprehended it, what you're planning to do is retarded

>>21363231
retarded is retarded

>>21363233
heres ur quiz

no sound and 1x playback speed and no cheating

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKV0rE1RlMo#t=148

show me what u got

>>21363235
>>21363237
ok can u explain why then? i can learn the hiragana in the core decks just fine but whenever i come across a kanji it manages to stump me for a very long time before i can recall it properly

>>21363239
Pretty much got them all. Maybe missed like 1 or two. It's not difficult.

>>21363243
how u think ur gonna get over that hurdle by avoidin it

>>21363233
>this would all be resolved if you started the discussion by challenging the guy to a quiz instead
Yes, that approach has a long, successful history of quickly resolving things and totally doesn't derail the thread into an insufferable shitfest of awfulness in 100% of cases.

Oh wait.

>>21363243
because you will have to learn kanji 2 times and vocabulary 2 times basically

yes you can theoretically learn every single kanji like a drone but it turns out kanjis have different definitions if mixed with hiragana, so you will end up learning vocabulary like we told you so in the end.

So we're saving you trouble of memorizing bullshit you won't need, and learning the shit you really need to know.

>>21363244
did u get 刺傷 i bet u didnt even read it right

>>21363221
No, it doesn’t, that’s what being an outlier means.
“You need hearing to compose music worth listening to” still applies to 99,9999999% of the population even if outliers exist and telling a random faggot he can still make it while going deaf is almost certainly deceitful and dishonest, though technically not factually incorrect.

>>21363243
you're not supposed to recall kanji
you're only supposed to see the japanese word, know how to read it and what it means

Front:
子供

Back:
こども
child

only review front to back

>>21363243
learn the same deck with furigana if kanji fucks you up that much

also cuz kanji make it easier to learn the word than kana after u get over ur kanji fear lol

i personally learned my kanji through rtk and deleted all the kanji in my core deck lol

>>21363263
Some people actually want to write

>>21363262
imagine comparing hearing to knowing grammar lmao
the correct comparison would be
"you need music theory to compose music worth listening to" and that is absolutely not true

>>21363262
That would work as a defense if you could provide an alternative explanation of the process these outliers follow.
Because what they're doing to get fluent is still "learning the language", which you have already provided a definition for that conflicts with what they're doing, as it does not entail grammar study.
Your argument, I assume, boils down to them being extremely skilled at learning the language, but that doesn't change that they are in fact "learning" it.
Now you either have to provide an alternative explanation, (i.e. they employ magic instead of learning) or concende that your definition is retarded.

>>21363254
You mean the times the thread exposed themselves as a horde of clueless retards that can't read basic N1 and N2 words and has to find excuses for being shitters like N2 being literally beyond the capabilities of native Japanese speakers HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>21363261
it's not in there but if it was I'd have no problem with that lol

>>21363269
You can do RTK for that afterwards. Japanese children already know thousands of words before they go to school, but they don't all of a sudden how how to write them too.

>>21363269
sure you can do that separately
that's no excuse for learning words in hiragana
also learning to write is easier when you already know japanese

>>21363277
>>21363278
djts gettin educated im so proud of u all

>>21363274
well i guess if i take u at ur word u passed that quiz and the stinger bonus question but ur right that 1 was easy

o well im sure ull own urself some more when ppl start posting about japanese again

>>21363269
memorize radicals (and by memorizing I mean being able to write each one by heart) and write a lot, it is not very useful in 2019 but if it makes you happy, go for it.

The implication is RTK teaches to write which it doesn't LOL

im starting to thnk some of u retards need a guide on just how to breathe (u are now manually breathing btw get owned lol)

>>21363290
partially true, it teaches you how to draw the characters, what it doesn't do is give you the ability to associate the characters with japanese words, so actual writing can still be problematic

>>21363269
Write the kanji for the word a few times then, it'll even help you remember it, but keep the vigorous study of the kanji itself kept in a dusty, unused closet until you're done learning vocabulary.

中傷 does not mean internal wound.
さすが日本語

>>21363286
so how about you come and do the vocab quiz now oh wait you'd have to actually know some Japanese for that lol pussy

>>21363291
if u master meditation u will enjoy manual breathing nice self own

>>21363036
Thank you! that's such a great resource

RTK installs the kanji into your brain.

>>21363299
yah it does sticks and stones break ur bones but words last forever

>>21363301
cuz multiplayer flashtards is fuckin gay and id rather have a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in my ear

>>21363308
i dont think thats how it works dude

>>21363301
>do the vocab quiz
Post it quizmaster

>>21363271
>"you need music theory to compose music worth listening to"
Music theory is not a set of rules music functions by, it’s a set of observations about an art form, you imbecile.
The language equivalent would be rhetoric.

>>21363273
>vast majority of people achieve success following this traditional system of study
>small minority of people who demonstrate exceptional affinity to the field also achieve success in non traditional manner
>this somehow means the vast majority achieving success with a proven method speaks nothing of the method and random faggots on 4chan will see any notable result by trying to emulate people better suited to the endeavour
Yeah ok bro. Some gypsy managed to pick up a guitar and become the greatest guitarist on the planet, I’m sure you could do the same.
No way he has an aptitude you find once in a couple of million people, I’m sure no one else just thought of fucking around with the thing until it clicked.

>>21363310
now thats some classic matt i havent heard in a long time lol
>>21363314
aint it all about manual breathin
reasonable conclusion to me
if ur manual breathin all the time to reach nirvana then when someone pushes u into it ull just accidentally fall into ur meditative trance and suddenly be fulfilled
>>21363321
lol what are u tryin to say about grammar here

>>21363319
go join the itazura chat through the guide link

>>21363314
it's not flashcards it's competitively typing out readings of japanese words and there is a ton of videos of japs doing the same thing on youtube it's just a bit of fun testing your kanji reading abilities
of course I know it's just an excuse, you don't know anything so there is no way you will come to quiz go on let me hear another excuse for how gay flashcards are or whatever lmao I'll be reading some Japanese

>>21363290
Staring at shapes won't make you good at drawing shapes, but it does help to be able to recall and recognize patterns to be able to know how to draw them. If you know that 職 is composed of 耳 on the left + 音 crossed by 戈, you can use your knowledge of how to draw the characters on their own to put them together.
>>21363296
>>21363296
>what it doesn't do is give you the ability to associate the characters with japanese words
The original RTK book doesn't do that, but many anki decks based off the RTK system do show some examples of words written with kanji being shown.

>>21363321
how much japanese do u know

>>21363328
can u act ur age for a minute lol

>>21363328
i hope u actually do go read japanese instead of tab back in eagerly when u see that ive replied to ur post

>>21363334
all of it
some of it wouldn’t even exist without me

>>21363127
eat shit dumbass

>>21363321
lol music theory ftw

my fave guys are the ones who sperg out on the math-ish side of music and have absolutely 0 groove at all lol

>>21363326
u really shouldnt be manual breathing ever cuz awareness in general disrupts natural rhythm

its part of the sickness that is the human conscious

>>21363357
get out

>>21363122
>>21363205
>>21363230
this is why i keep coming back
so fucking funny

>>21363321
You didn't even try to address the logical inconsistencies shown to you, all you did was doubling down on asserting you're right.
>bro it's totally not learning if they're this good it's not a fair comparison

>>21363274
Oh no, he still thinks his typing speed test which he'd autistically practised over and over means anything, even though he got BTFO at it multiple times and most people in the thread never even bothered to take it.

>>21363362
then why are all the cool ajatters sellin manual breathing sessions like its the new brain training app

https://vocaroo.com/i/basedQJTyWrFXJ

>>21363380

>>21363318
A classic.

>>21363377
lol how does it feel being in a state of mind where you'll bend reality and ignore all facts and truths just to keep the ghosts in your head real
lmao

>>21363382
omfg the filter ruined the link cuz it has s_____0y in it holy sHIt

https://vocaroo.com/i/s191m9jrhHs4

>>21363377
i can almost sympathize with qm
what if u practice a sport for 2 years and when u tried to get people to join in and have some fun with ur typing game with u they just said lol thats fuckin dumb were learnin nihongo not competitive flash cards
and ur like but this is my only talent why wont u play with me but they just keep shitting on u and ur fun game
maybe itd go down better though if he wasnt an insufferable little shit

>>21363399
is that u

guy who tried to stream reading hanahiraッ and sucked real bad

are u tryin to rile ppl up again lol

Does a decent English dictionary exist for yomichan? I'm not advanced enough to go on to a fully Japanese one yet but I'm already starting to notice some of the definitions are off.

>>21363406
if u think u can sympathize with him now try sympathizing later when he becomes aware to how much hes been getting owned and owning himself

>>21363423
There's the Kenkyusha dictionary but it's useless on Yomichan because it doesn't strip out the billion example sentences that the dictionary has.

Good news is that you can use it on Nazeka with the examples stripped to varying degrees if you wanna try that instead. Search "nazeka mega" in the archive and you should find the dictionary files you need for it.

>>21363427
ur bein optimistic thinkin that will happen
matts been goin 8 years and hasnt figured it out
thats why theyre good buds now they have so much in common

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLTxKuJ2nfE#t=14

>>21363440
That said, it's really not very usable on Nazeka either because of the way the definitions are structured.

Honestly you're better off just sticking with JMDICT.

https://twitter.com/ShudderJP/status/1129389685204312069

heh, bye bye pencil and paper, hello revolutionary addon

>>21363462
The west has gone mad

what a sad tweet lol

Speaking of Nazeka, does anyone else find that the "Dictionary item font size" setting just gets ignored most of the time?

It's really inconsistent for me. Sometimes (rarely) it will work on every site, no problem. Other times it will only work on some sites but not others. Other times it doesn't work at all. It's weird considering that the other two font size settings, "Definition font size" and "Reading font size" seem to work just fine at all times (sometimes messing with those settings is what it takes to get the "Dictionary item font size" setting to decide to start working).

btw how long has every1 been learning japanese and how much of this do u understand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guuCWESe_qQ#t=27

>>21363462
>that flashing keyboard
i guess it comes as no surprise that matt's fanboys are all autistics

>>21363503
maybe hell do a stream where he plays fortnite with them lol

>>21363478
What do these notes even mean, like what is he trying to write down
I don't know what that addon does even so maybe that's that

この家に入るのは止めておきましょうか
what is the おきましょう supposed to mean bros i am confused

>>21363462
wtf was he makin a table of pitch accents for lol

止めておく dude w. a dash of grammatical functionality lmao

I should've know that fuck im an idiot.

Am I the only one who can sometimes know the reading of a word but not its meaning?I feel like I can get the pronunciation right more than the meaning

yea you're the only one

I just got a new phone and transferred my Anki data to it.
The only problem is when I restored it my 2k/6k deck doesn't have any sound.
I check my settings and I'm pretty sure I have everything turned up. (all my other apps have sound)

If I re-download the deck will it reset all my progress?

>>21363558
depends on the word
practice and it'll go away

>>21363587
Retard you probably didn't transfer the mega deta and what do you mean by transfer , use ankiweb sync and have it sync media you literally have to do fucking nothing

>>21363598
>what do you mean by transfer
>set up new phone
>sync all my old apps
>everything transfers over
>anki decks have no sound

Forgot about my Ankiweb account. I made it over a year ago. Thanks for reminding me.

I havent been following the threads did jamal ever try tobiden

Why do Japs learn shit like 梅 and 松 in elementary school but learn 嫌 and 怒 in middle school? Shaking my 頭

holy FUCK post matt right now aaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>21363515
hope you're still here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg7OXQX739E

>>21363664

>>>/trash/23151619

>>21363675
Thanks,I learned this but I just forgot it since it's rarely used,but I still remember te form + aru even if i've literally never seen it
(this is unrelated but I dont like filling the thread)
Also what the fuck is this whole phraze supposed to mean:
あいつ...いい穴してたんだよな
Maybe it's slang.I really have no idea what 穴する could mean

>>21363655

>>21363697
lmfao

穴があったら入りたい

>>21362616
because you get shit like kitsunekko going down, obviously
Luckily I keep backups of everything

>>21363558
Happens more and more to me, because Kanji start repeating a lot. It's also a desirable effect personally. Means its roughly equal to any other language where youll encounter lots of words you might not know but can read nontheless. Also ultimately makes it easier to learn the actual word because you're not reliant on already recalling the word by shape alone.

New thread:

>>>/trash/23177802

>>>/trash/23177802

>>>/trash/23177802

https://streamable.com/6hm1z lmfao

based Matto meme from previous thread

>>21363780
>>21363786
>>21363791
Wrong thread.

>>>/trash/23177802

>>>/trash/23177802

>>>/trash/23177802

>>21363786
not half as funny as the reality where he was some freak gayjin that no one in that class would even look at, making him feel so out of place he'd rather hide out of sight for as long as he could.

>>21363792
u only have urself to blame sorry for ur epic backfire trashtard

Stay where you belong filth.

>>21363655
he posted on /trash/ that it was overrated trash that shills need to stfu about

>>21363805
wait wait wait no i didnt

i actualyl didnt even get to the playing part yet really i stopped after like 15 mins and i went thru the tutorial stuff so like all i did was run around a town and be kind of surprised at all the flavour text on everything

i might boot it up later tho

>>21363805
Lmao jamal wouldn't go post on that board, i believe in him and his integrity

i have bad news for you

>>21363817
nah i deifnitley posted in the miatard trash thread that got spammed all last thread

>>21363826
Ok but if its only to mock ppl its fine

僕はゲイニガーです

how many years of studying until i can understand 90% of what's spoken in berserk 1997 (greatest anime of all time even factoring in the cliffhanger ending)?

>>21363918
do subs2srs sentence cards for a few months and you'll get there. I even made a deck for Berserk.

>>21363863
If you were really gay you'd use 私 or even あたし

偽物とゲイだ

>>21363932
lol stop recommending this shit retard quiz anime cards are ten times better

>>21363936
>quiz anime cards
what

>>21363936
and that aint sayin much lol

>>21363937
https://streamable.com/jyhp3

>>21363941
literally the same as the subs2srs cards, just with a different format

Wrong. I asked quizmaster for advice because I can't understand anything when I watch anime and he said I should make anime cards with complete audio, and to make sure I understand all of the audio when doing my reps. The problem is that I can't hear any of it. So his method would DOOM me.

quiz needs to make a real youtube and get a following as an eceleb so that talkin about him aint off topic anymore

>>21363933
If he was really ゲイ he'd just need to say 僕, only ゲイs use it

>>21363947
no there is 10000 things that make subs2srs cards worse, the making process is also worse, it's all cheap shit but I don't care to dig up the entire augmentation behind it just stop recommending subs2srs retard

at what point does listening become remotely comprehensible? everything sounds like nonsense to me

>>21363957
if nothing is comprehensible maybe 10 years lol

>>21363951
I don't really consider myself at a level where I can become an internet celebrity yet though, maybe after passing kanken 2 I might

>>21363948
You use Morphman with subs2srs cards and you'll find i+1 cards, building your way up.
>>21363954
I mean, I can understand anime thanks to using subs2srs cards. I've done 5100 of them and I've have no issues with it. I don't know what to say if you're mentally disabled, though.

**** informants, reveal yourselves. he gets linked here all the time apparently.

>>21363971
matt has no credentials beyond lol im native vetted and hes blowin up
bu sensei is a real kanji success story and no one cares about him
do u want free money or not

okay then what should my youtube name be
I'll promise to become a celebrity within the next 5 years

>>21363974
>You use Morphman with subs2srs cards and you'll find i+1 cards
I can read some basic stuff but can't really hear any of it so morphman wouldn't work for me in terms of audio. But then maybe I should use morphman to find the i+0 cards with small sentences and start doing audio-only reps?

quiztard if you teach me japanese i'll talk to you over voice on discord or something every day to help improve your spoken english

>>21363989
Morphman sorts your cards in a way where it'll show you simple sentences, and you can hit the K key to register the words as known, starting from 0.
If have done something like v2k or core2k, you can register those words and do i+0 cards though, yeah. That's what I did when I started, since I couldn't hear half the words I could read. After mining 1 slice of life for several hundred cards you'll make quick improvements. I mined Clannad After Story and White Album 2.

actually before becoming a celebrity I should perfect my English accent otherwise I'll get made fun of

>>21363988
why would u change it
ur name carries a clear path to follow for many years to come
if u pass kanken 2 ur fans will be yellin quizmaster how fast do u plan to do pre-1 quizmaster when are u gonna write a book quizmaster do u think u could kick busenseis ass at a quiz

okay now explain this

>>21364013
wow nihongo is a fake language

>>21364012
alright I'm creating a new account but I won't upload anything until I got kanken 2 but I promise I will make eceleb efforts at some point

>>21362173
i can easily read this text
am i ready to play rpg?

>>21364094
yes do it leave thread now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vi0DZNQgoTQ

Okay here is my channel. I won't upload anything until I perfected my English accent and passed Kanken 2 though so probably about in a year. I'm giving myself 5 years to achieve the e-celeb life. If it won't work out I'll become a proper human being.

>>21364149
>If it won't work out I'll become a proper human being.
thats definitely a bigger challenge