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Guide: https://massimmersionapproach.com/table-of-contents/stage-1/jp-quickstart-guide/

Anki Tips: https://www.animecards.site/

>> No.25055754

さすが一番早いguyです

>> No.25055771

this was made by a discord teen so im staying in the other thread

>> No.25055805

great thread

>> No.25055809
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>> No.25055822

>それはお前の自己満足にすぎないんだよ。
>That's because you are getting too wrapped up in your own feelings.
wtf

>> No.25055825

most fight scenes in vns are really boring and predictable and use the exact same language all the time (閃光が走った for example)

>> No.25055828

this one was posted first, not thrilled with that but i dont make the rules

>> No.25055842

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlXR_vsaT5A

>> No.25055856

qm here just want to say that i'd never post or endorse mia shit

>> No.25055857
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found a reddit post the discord guys might wanna read
https://www.reddit.com/r/nosurf/comments/i051pi/day_1_without_discord_thoughts/
at least this place is anonymous

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>> No.25055888

>>25055739
lol
>>25055758

>> No.25055894

reminder the OP is a cancerous discord spammer that tries to force his 3 months old methods on djt
the real guide is itazuraneko.neocities.org which is based on the guide that has been used since djt was on /a/

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>> No.25055913

>>25055894
dont care

>> No.25055918

>>25055894
and how many of those /a/nons made it
lmao

>> No.25055931
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>>25055899

>> No.25055944

its been a while
https://streamable.com/6lql2

>> No.25055945

>>25055825
exactly
once you've read one you've read them all

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>>25055856
thoughts on your 3x3?

>> No.25055969

i have no shame in admitting my homeboard is /a/

>> No.25055982

>>25055918
they all made it this is why you only see post 2018 newfags here

>> No.25055986

>>25055969
ok but /a/ is a boring as shit board

>> No.25055991

>>25055856
why did you bow down to matt in discord then

>> No.25055996

>>25055918
they went back to /a/ when they were done here, thats how its supposed to go

>> No.25055999

filtered guy is way more hilarious than clench boy i said it

>> No.25056007

>>25055944
this has never been amusing

>> No.25056011

>>25055999
neither of them are funny.

>> No.25056023

>>25055986
all boards are boring and shit i only post on djt
its impressive how discord attracts so many teenagers and manages to kill so many communities though
if i ever see a discordshitter irl i will skin his face on the asphalt

>> No.25056029

>>25055957
that's mine huh? well they are all great fun shows but idk if i would rly identify myself with them like that 3x3 are kind of gay, also good job on putting my third 10/10 thunderbolt fantasy on there cuz that's not on mal

>> No.25056033

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dVhIOPMif4

>> No.25056034

>>25056007
it's not supposed to be funny though it's just for people to test their progress by seeing the same thing after a few months

>> No.25056046

>>25055999
>>25056011
its multiple people "adopting" the words you retards, blame the shitty deluge of newfolk esls

>> No.25056056

>>25055999
thats also partially me

>> No.25056061

ive never set foot in /a/ but i imagine its a hellhole full of "clench ngmi based zoomer cringe" type shit

>> No.25056068

>>25056029
thanks yea i tried to do my homework but there were a few 8/10s that could have made it (death note instead of mushishi for example) and i wasn't sure which you'd want on there but i remember you posting about how much you liked katanagatari so i made sure to include that one.

>> No.25056071

>hololive threads hitting bump limit in less than 30 min
wtf can we ban this

>> No.25056077

>>25055991
i didn't really i don't think anyone put out any of our recent conversation out there
there is only 1 short clip from a conversation we had over a year ago a ago where i was kind of a in a shitty situation and rly sperged out saying random shit

>> No.25056078

>>25056061
much like djt

>> No.25056079

remembered 萎れる from seeing it with furigana

>> No.25056080
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25056080

post your immersion environment

>> No.25056082

ichiban tsuyoi vs ichiban hayai
who would win?

>> No.25056083

>>25056061
clench and ngmi were invented here retard
and its multiple peoppe u schizo

>> No.25056097

>>25056083
they were invented here by retards from /a/ who come here for hololive shit probably

>> No.25056104

>>25056080
go back tranny

>> No.25056103

arent those vtuber things in japanese? what are the people in those threads even talking about then? theres no way they understand it

>> No.25056108

>>25056061
but clench is a dee-jay-pee-tee™ product

>> No.25056113

>>25056082
一番早い to lick the other guys boots

>> No.25056118

>>25056082
https://streamable.com/l2c2ay

>> No.25056123

>>25056097
holy fuck i hope youre not the same guy who thinks its only one dude posting those or i will have to call your mom and tell her ur not taking ur meds

>> No.25056124

>>25056103
maybe you should go figure that one out for us

>> No.25056126

>>25056103
not sure

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>>25056080

>> No.25056129

>>25056097
nice self own dude ur basically saying jp is intellectually bankrupt

>> No.25056136

>>25055314
my intuition takes a bit to set in and in the mean time it can fluctuate

>> No.25056135 [DELETED] 

>>25056123
clench

>> No.25056150

>>25056124
id rather drown myself in a septic tank

>> No.25056153
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25056153

The number ichiban rule of nihongo wo benkyoushiteruing is to itsumo have tanoshii!!!

>> No.25056167

>>25056103
they are so braindead they dont need to understand
although except lives all their vids are subbed and a lot of people post le epic holoshit meme funny face compilation videos on youtube with subs

>> No.25056172

>>25056129
yes

>> No.25056182

>>25056153
i thought i was in a hololive thread for a sec there

>> No.25056192

>>25056167
that's disgusting. otaku have somehow found a way to devolve.

>> No.25056193

>>25056129
inventing new ways to be annoying doesnt require any intellect

>> No.25056210

>>25056080
ewwwwwwwwwww

>> No.25056218

>>25056192
theyre not otaku its mostly /v/ and reddit and twitter since they stream games and scream on the mic like retards making stupid faces which they think is amusing

>> No.25056234

>>25056167
>although except lives all their vids are subbed
lol

>> No.25056237

>>25056193
if you had real intellect you wouldn't get annoyed

>> No.25056245

>>25056061
ngmi's been used here for months afaik and clench is exclusively used here so youre dead wrong
the other words are from /v/ so you should blame the vtuber tourists thatve been infiltrating

>> No.25056266
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cartoons aren't anime nerds just got btfo hard

>> No.25056307

>>25056245
i said "type shit" not that they say ngmi or clench on /a/ they just probably have the same kind of culture of saying dumb meaningless buzzwords repeatedly

>> No.25056315
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25056315

>若者 わかもの
>弱者 じゃくしゃ

>> No.25056319

>>25056266
is this a game for 中学生

>> No.25056355

>>25056307
yeah no youre a pretty clueless fresh chump

>> No.25056370

>>25056315
babbys first day?

>> No.25056392

>>25056319
whats ur issue

>> No.25056405

>>25056315
WTF WHY DO THEY EITHER BOTH USE KUNYOMI OR BOTH USE ONYOMI ITS SO CONFUSINGGGGGGG

>> No.25056428

>>25056405
臆病者

>> No.25056441

>>25056266
how in the fuck would cartoons be anime

>> No.25056460
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繊切り? really can't tell what this is

>> No.25056498

>>25056392
hes disappointed the game doesnt look like a blob of chinese

>> No.25056525

>>25056460
it would be a lot easier to tell if you just showed the whole sentence so the context made it clear

>> No.25056532

lol i just checked out their threads and looks like a bunch of holoshit is getting copyright sniped so theyre having a meltdown

>> No.25056552

>>25056460
is this bait?

>> No.25056564

>>25056460
can you cap like a civilized person i dont want to see the pixel lines on ur screen

>> No.25056577
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25056577

wotd: 鰯雲
already posted this before but it's a cool word

>> No.25056593

>>25056428
>dastard​
wtf

>> No.25056605

>>25056593
esl?

>> No.25056606

>>25056577
nice pic

>> No.25056646

>>25056605
no but i swear ive not seen this word before
i barely read books but still

>> No.25056669

>>25056646
never even heard of the classic anime character dick dastardly?

>> No.25056682

>>25056605
>>25056669
its a dated word now stfu

>> No.25056701 [DELETED] 

>>25056682
clench

>> No.25056706

never heard dastard but have heard dastardly many times

>> No.25056710 [DELETED] 

>>25056701
retard

>> No.25056737 [DELETED] 

>>25056710
stay clenching loool

>> No.25056777

>>25056682
>>25056646
>>25056593
dastard(ly) is so fucking common omfg learn english

>> No.25056778

>>25056706
you're right

>> No.25056789
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holy fuck everybody sucks in this fuckin show lol why am i watching this

>> No.25056840

>>25056777
dastardly is common but dastard is not
its almost like using dotard

>> No.25056873

>>25056789
*reading

>> No.25056877

>>25056873
lol

>> No.25056881

>>25056777
sounds familiar but dont know what it means

>> No.25056888

chinese makes me wanna cry... of happiness

look at this:
中 = zhōng = middle, center, etc
国 = guó = country
中国 = zhōngguó = china
人 = rén = person
中国人 = zhōngguórén = chinese person

>> No.25056893

>>25056840
if you weren't an esl it would be obvious what dastard is even if youve only ever seen dastardly

>> No.25056906

lmfao

>> No.25056907

>>25056888
is this a reddit post wtf go back

>> No.25056917

>>25056777
not every native majored in useless shit like english
dastard

>> No.25056919

>>25056888
WTF???
bros...
did you
bros
did you trick me into learning CHINESE this whole time???

>> No.25056929

>>25056907
>>25056919
no, ya fucks. i'm talking about the readings. it doesn't change

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>>25056917
you seem.... irate

>> No.25056949 [DELETED] 

>>25056873
clench

>> No.25056960

you know "seethe" lost its spark awhile ago. but clench? now thats a piercing word

>> No.25056961

>>25056929
oh yeah that's true, but you gotta learn like 6000 characters to be high school level so it's still just as difficult

>> No.25056974

>>25056929
this is made up for by having way more kanji though
also tones

>> No.25056990

>>25056888
yea but what about
第二 dì'èr = second
兩年 liǎng nián = 2 years
what da fuck,...

>> No.25056993

chinese sounds fucking terrible id rather go deaf than learn that shit

>> No.25057004

>>25056993
matt says it sounds terrible at first but when you listen to it a lot it sounds beautiful

>> No.25057019

人妻が犯してぇなぁ…

>> No.25057022

>>25057004
matt

>> No.25057029

步行 bùxíng
银行 yínháng

fuck this meme language

>> No.25057031

>>25056893
lol you can keep talking smack but the fact is the only language spoken in my family all the way to my forefathers has been english
its not about guessing meaning but rather about my having not seen it like that plain and simple, idk what shit you read growing up to come across that word

>> No.25057051

chinese sounds way better
https://youtu.be/BcSuAhbtIFg?t=10

>> No.25057054

>>25057031
>all the way to my forefathers has been english
this is for sure something an esl would say lmfao

>> No.25057057

>>25057019
not が but を

>> No.25057059

>>25057019
>犯す
i see this so much in the doujin i've been reading for the past couple months, probably once a day or every two days, but i keep having an instinct to read it ほかす or はかす and i'm not sure why.

>> No.25057072

the only thing i want to hear in chinese is screams

>> No.25057076

>>25056961
thats simplified chinese so it barely counts, only taiwan does real hanzi

>> No.25057091

how come i learned english by playing a ton of SNES games but i cant learn japanese by doing the same. i didnt even use a dictionary

is there any method for learning japanese by playing a ton of games and not studying?

>> No.25057094

>>25057054
sounds fine to me

>> No.25057095

>>25057076
they use traditional in singapore and hong kong too

>> No.25057097

>>25057031
>that word
are you referring to "dastardly"? if so, i literally dont know how youve avoided that word
else are you referring to "dastard"? if so, see my previous point about not needing to see that word ever to know what it means

>> No.25057107

>>25057054
nice projection limpdick

>> No.25057111

>>25057057
Ga is used when you're using verbs with the tai ending, indicating that you want to do something.

>> No.25057122 [DELETED] 

>>25057107
clench

>> No.25057134

>>25057004
how many posts have you made that start with "matt says/matt said"? there are probably hotlines for people in cults bro id consult those

>> No.25057146

>>25057134
matt says mia isnt a cult

>> No.25057150

>>25057111
uppercasers....

>> No.25057159

>>25057091
eroge

>> No.25057163

>>25057111
he's cracked it, the secret of ga

>> No.25057167

>>25057111
there was no ga

>> No.25057173

>>25057150
>>25057057
both を and が are acceptable with ~たい tho

>> No.25057174

もっと
ちょっと
きっと
ずっと
やっと

>> No.25057181

>>25057146
do you have a receded chin/jaw?

>> No.25057187

>>25057181
isnt that you? you're always posting about regretting mouth breathing or something

>> No.25057200

>>25057097
original poster here (25056593, 25056646)
not sure where you guys got the idea i dont understand the word i just said
>i swear ive not seen this word before
which is true lol

>> No.25057206

>>25057174
>きっと
>ずっと
>やっと
yeah fuck these ones, get them all mixed up

>> No.25057218

>>25057150
Lowercasers...

>> No.25057222

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmCEu9zhJoY

>> No.25057224

>>25057174
learned all these from anime even before i started anki

>> No.25057232

>>25057187
no i have a normal jaw

>> No.25057243

>>25057134
there's about 120 returns for "matt says" on warosu. a lot of those posts are in some other context and aren't from me. if i had to guess i've said it at least 40 times though over the years. but can you blame me? the dude is smart as heck and even after all this time he's still the top japanese guru.

>> No.25057251

>>25057174
know all these from anime lmao

>> No.25057263

>>25057222
love this guy, he's gonna make it

>> No.25057266

>>25057243
>but can you blame me?
yeah, i can. you're a retard.

>> No.25057269

>>25057243
warosu doesnt catch all posts after bump limit

>> No.25057274

>>25057173
yes but in this case を is more natural

>> No.25057300

the most natural would be to drop the particle altogether for that one

>> No.25057311

>>25057059
this is why audio input is so important

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>>25057300

>> No.25057321

>>25057300
i dont think so

>> No.25057323

these vtuber threads are fucking crazy lol the only time ive seen threads move faster were the darling in the franxx threads on /a/. they were similar in terms of being fucking trash too.

>> No.25057340

>>25057316
lmao

>> No.25057384

the quality of these threads drop a lot when the australians start posting. gonna stop coming here at these hours.

>> No.25057401

>>25057311
yea i think it's both that and the fact i'm still not reading a lot. just enough to fap every day which only takes 20-60 minutes. some words i instantly read and some of them i pause for a second and forget or get confused with them (like おかす). even after seeing them a hundred times. even of those it doesn't feel like i "know" them. i guess if i got more (especially listening) input i couldn't help but ingrain them as i become more familiar with collocations and stuff.

>> No.25057425

>>25057323
yo bro we're far from home huh

>> No.25057430

>>25057323
a more accurate comparison is /v/ since they fucking hate vtubers in hlg which is where 95% of the posts are. lmao

>> No.25057452

>>25057401
read the op dude make audio cards

>> No.25057488

>>25057430
not even /v/ /vg/ and /pol/ threads move this fast lmao, these are truly the worst kind of threads on this entire website
>4stats.io

>> No.25057502

>>25057054
read more

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>> No.25057551

ok this was pretty cringe

https://youtu.be/52DHpZ7fUrU?t=68

>> No.25057569

IRC?

its 2020, grandpa, we use discord nowadays

>> No.25057583

>>25057323
its pretty funny how /a/ went from raving about the series to being completely mum

>> No.25057587

>>25057550
this pic really captures the 90s

>> No.25057599

https://disboard.org/ja/server/606949239813046273

this is the secret qm japanese only discord feel free to join

>> No.25057611

>>25057551
shit taste

>> No.25057612

>>25057551
what a shit list lol

>> No.25057614

>>25057583
the majority of the people in the threads were just self-inserting as hiro, they didnt give a shit if the show was good or bad

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>>25057551
1. pepper pig
2. pepper pig
3. pepper pig
4. pepper pig
5. pepper pig

>> No.25057671

>>25057611
>>25057612
>>25057614
>shit
djpt is truly a hivemind

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>> No.25057678

>>25057488
they're all shrieking the same meaningless shit at the top of their lungs day and night. I enjoy watching some vtubers and find the threads totally insufferable

>> No.25057704

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkoKGfiuftU

pepper dad's magic show was the funniest

>> No.25057717

>>25057599
dgaf
qm has shit taste in anime, doesnt like vns, and doesnt even like elegant fonts

>> No.25057728

watching pepperpig instead of doing my daily anki + dolly

should i stop?

>> No.25057731

>>25057675
literal 500% fucking increase holy shit.

>>25057617

fuck these idiots

>> No.25057741

>>25057323
never seen >>>/pol/ptg ?

>> No.25057762

>>25057741
ah yes the other DJT

>> No.25057763

HOVER FAGS BTFO
https://streamable.com/gk6i39

>> No.25057771

>>25057551
she's cute but the list is garbage
the only decent entry is cheese sweet home
shirokuma cafe will bore you to death and the other three are just random

>> No.25057781

>>25057763
hasn't he only been reading for like 3 months

>> No.25057788

>>25057781
and he's already better than you

>> No.25057800

>>25057788
bet he only reads n5 shit

>> No.25057806

>>25057788
prove it

>> No.25057812

>>25057763
literally who?
>inb4 MIAfagOfTheWeek2001

>> No.25057834

What's the current djt meta? Are you guys still talking about nuke chan and ajatt?

>> No.25057845

muramasa and mareni vns are n5 material because if you can read those you can pass the n5 test

>> No.25057846

>>25056061
It isn't that bad, its one of the last boards that isn't fully taken over by nu-/v/ culture

>> No.25057853

>>25057704
wtf you got me watching this

>> No.25057888

>>25057763
he is right

>> No.25057900

>>25057741
>6.5 p/m
not even close lol

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25057913

just finished magical charming. best vn ive read in the last 8 months.

>> No.25057923

>>25057913
looks shit

>> No.25057932

>>25056961
i personally feel that learning new kanji is less painful than the changing of readings

>> No.25057951

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfL6U-Cb57A

>> No.25057970

>>25057932
yeah dude just pick up new kanji like 薹 and 臺 haha so easy bro

>> No.25057988

fuckin hate zhongguo so ill never learn that shit
even if it means ill lose out on martial arts films

>> No.25058008

>>25055739 #


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>> No.25058010

>>25057970
you did do your radical study, didn't you?

>> No.25058016

>>25056777
i know dastard from dastardly duo
t. esl

>> No.25058031

>>25057970
what? 薹 -> flower, good luck, crown, climax
if you had done rtk you wouldn't be suffering
first time i saw this one

>> No.25058037

>>25058008
why you gotta link back that far? just link until the last thread that correctly labeled itself

>> No.25058055

>>25058016
>dastard
that means 卑怯 no need to know anything else

>> No.25058061

id prefer to learn chinese than japanese but chinese doesnt have enough media except hong kong movies and theyre all cantonese anyway

>> No.25058073

>>25058031
>>25058010
being able to play "spot the difference" and being able to read are two very different things

>> No.25058082

>tfw not cool enough to talk about vns with the big boys in the server

>> No.25058101

>>25058031
>using english keywords instead of 草 (top) + 吉 +室
i see youve not acquired japanese yet

>> No.25058104

>>25058082
wanna talk about how hard "easy" vns are with me instead?

>> No.25058114

>>25058073
your example is dumb though because realistically you dont actually need to know whether it's 薹 or 臺 specifically because context will fill it in lol if you see 臺灣 you're not gonna be like wtf is that 薹灣 or 臺灣??

>> No.25058121

>>25058101
what would i be doing here if had acquired japanese? i don't intend to be like jamal

>> No.25058126

>>25058082
they are not real friends
they won't miss you if you left and you would quickly forget about them

>> No.25058131

>>25057704
when did peppa pig become the default series for djt?

>> No.25058136

>>25058101
it's called 草冠 fyi

>> No.25058143

>>25058101
this "using english keywords" objection is silly and you know it. these characters are not even japanese in the first place, who gives a fuck?

>> No.25058160
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>>25058136
>grass crown
based!

>> No.25058174

>>25058136
艸部

>> No.25058187

butterfly is just the fucking best

>> No.25058200

>>25058174
nobody actually says that though

>> No.25058223

オナニーしたいのですが、 何か身近にあるものでイけるものありますか? 手以外でおねがいします

>> No.25058228

>>25058131
its a forced meme
coulda been pripara
coulda been the hello kitty anime
coulda been kanon (2006)
but anon wanted to force a shitty british cartoon for retarded children for the sake of becoming the memester of the day

>> No.25058230

>>25058200
Yeah, well they'll be saying 激走戦隊カーレンジャー soon enough

>> No.25058240
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mined 草書

>> No.25058247

>>25058240
stop reading n5 shit

>> No.25058278

>>25058228
all wrong
the reason pepper pig is good is because there's like a hundred million episodes of it covering all kinds of scenarios.

the first 100 episodes of pepper pig probably cover the entirety of core10k and more

>> No.25058286

I've thought of reading 川端康成's 雪国. Would it be good for me to touch sub-N5 reading material like that?

>> No.25058321

>>25058286
better than shit posting

>> No.25058335

>>25057717
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little dekinai? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Discord Quiz, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on r/LearnJapanese and /int/, and I have over 20k confirmed anime cards. I am trained in kanji recognition and I'm the top namefag in the entire /jp/ DJT thread. You are nothing to me but just another クソガキ. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on the quiz, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of discord trannies across Europe and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, сука. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can read 生 in over seven hundred different ways, and that's just with 音読み. Not only am I extensively trained in dictionary hovering, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the animecards.site methods and tools and I will use it to its full extent to make high-quality vocabulary cards that will wipe you the fuck out, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" kanken comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn baka. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.

>> No.25058379

>>25058278
I doubt "economic downturn" is featured in any episode of Peppa Pig.

>> No.25058390

imagine watching 100 episodes of peppa pig, fucking hell

>> No.25058394

>>25058379
and that's a good thing

>> No.25058410

>>25058278
how many times does the japanese dub for peppa pig feature words like 景気後退, 餓死, or 勅許?

>> No.25058415

https://youtu.be/s1hnLmcx7dY

>> No.25058432

if you dont watch 100 hours of kids shows youre just gonna be listening to white noise forever

>> No.25058458

watching digimon raw atm and understanding it all easily despite never watching anything raw beforehand basically

>> No.25058492

>>25058458
yea digimon is a nice alternative to peppa pig if you're not good enough for that yet

>> No.25058494

>>25058458
your vocab?

>> No.25058514

if youre not a pepper pigger youre not gonna make it simple as

>> No.25058524

>>25058494
like 10k or something idk

>> No.25058527

>>25058008
ここ#いくつなの

なんこかとんでない?

>> No.25058529

>>25058458
roughly how many words can you read senpai

>> No.25058556

>>25058524
die

>> No.25058611 [DELETED] 

>>25058556
clench

>> No.25058713

>>25058556
whats the problem man

btw just watched the ep with the first metal greymon 進化 was very nostalgic

>> No.25059178

how do you guys work with .sup files for subs?

>> No.25059216

more like naruto shitpuddin lmao

>> No.25059217

>>25059178
i dont use subs

>> No.25059218

>>25059178
i did sharex OCR for a movie once. i had to fix the OCR's mistakes every time it was hell

>> No.25059219 [DELETED] 

https://streamable.com/zwgrs5

>> No.25059223

>>25059030
lol

>> No.25059305

>>25059223
thats also correct

>> No.25059325

>>25059305
ngmi

>> No.25059326

.sup makes no difference to me they work fine in mpv and i only mine something from anime once every blue moon

>> No.25059337

>>25059326
ngmi

>> No.25059366

what is a .sup guise

>> No.25059400

this thread is unbearable now. i look at it scroll and it's all "clench', 'ngmi', some e-celeb all the way down

>> No.25059467 [DELETED] 

>>25059451
clench

>> No.25059476

>>25059330
it should be the first reading you think of, ジョウ is used way more often than セイ for 情

>> No.25059549 [DELETED] 

clench @ filtered trip guy

>> No.25059553 [DELETED] 

>>25059400
>>25059508
clench

>> No.25059571 [DELETED] 

>>25059555
>>25059544
clench

>> No.25059578 [DELETED] 

>>25059544
>>25059451

>> No.25059580

why do people complain about it when they know itll just make others try to spite them lol

>> No.25060051
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>>25059950
same bro

>> No.25060117 [DELETED] 

>>25060025
clench

>> No.25060132

>>25060104
stop sucking his dick youre next in line after c****h tards on the list of worst posters

>> No.25060136

>>25060132
sucking his dick? i'd karate chop his ass in half if he were in front of me right now

>> No.25060145

>>25060093
>i should force myself to consume japanese

>> No.25060196

gonna try and stop coming to this thread it really took a nosedive in the last couple of weeks gl bros

>> No.25060199

this would *shoves foot up ass*

>> No.25060205

just watched my first piece of non subbed jap content and excluding the ability to passively hover over some words i didn't know as they were being said, my comprehension was nearly exactly the same. although i'm still going to keep using jap subs for mining purposes. although now at least i know anti sub fags are full of shit.

>> No.25060210

if u guys think 4chan implies needing to shitposting non-stop in every thread then why djt? you could be anywhere, why here? go to /tv/ or something

>> No.25060293

>>25060210
spamming and trollposting is not shitposting because neither of the two are funny

>> No.25060414

>>25060374
オーケー but I sure as hell am not going to use periods, they're just fucking autistic

>> No.25060826

>>25060808
Fucking schizo

>> No.25060983

Does anyone check kitsunekko subs for accuracy

>> No.25060987

>>25060878
そっとしたげましょう
無理して続けるのも悲しいだけですよ

>> No.25060994

>>25060971
and how do i know you dont have a pass?

>> No.25061004

>>25060973
Dude its literally right there

>> No.25061018 [DELETED] 

>>25061004
$ unzip ~/Downloads/Digimon\ Adventure\ Tri.zip
Archive: /home//Downloads/Digimon Adventure Tri.zip
creating: Digimon Adventure Tri/
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/Digimon Adventure tri. Chapter 1 Reunion.JA.srt
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/Digimon Adventure tri. Chapter 2 Determination.JA.srt
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/Digimon Adventure tri. Chapter 3 Confession.JA.srt
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/Digimon Adventure tri. Chapter 4 Lost.JA.srt
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/Digimon Adventure Tri. Chapter 5 Coexistence.JA.srt
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/[EMTP-Raws&BaiduBBB&TamersUnion]デジモンアドベンチャー tri 第2章 「决意」[BDrip][FINAL][x265_FLAC][Main10][CHS_CHT_JPN].ass
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/[花語&花丸字幕組][數碼暴龍大冒險tri 第二章 決意][1080_BDRip][繁日外掛].jp.ass
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/[花語字幕組] [數碼暴龍大冒險tri.第二章 決意 05] 1080P.jp.ass
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/[花語字幕組] [數碼暴龍大冒險tri.第二章 決意 06] 1080P.jp.ass
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/[花語字幕組] [數碼暴龍大冒險tri.第二章 決意 07] 1080P.jp.ass
inflating: Digimon Adventure Tri/[花語字幕組] [數碼暴龍大冒險tri.第二章 決意 08] 1080P.jp.ass </wbr></wbr>

>> No.25061026

>>25060983
you just proved subs are worthless with that post thank you

>> No.25061054

>>25060994
How do you know I don't have 40 phones and this entire thread isn't just me and you?

>> No.25061064

>>25061018
Lmfao tf are you even searching for

>> No.25061072

>>25061064
digimon adventure 1999
find them for me

>> No.25061085

>>25061072
>Digimon Adventure (Japanese: デジモンアドベンチャー, Hepburn: Dejimon Adobenchā), known as Digimon: Digital Monsters[4] in English-speaking territories, is a 1999 Japanese anime television series
bro this is just embarassing

>> No.25061121

hes looking for the one with 54 episodes right

>> No.25061130

>>25061101
epic but kitsunekko has been dead for months
>>25061107
xDDD
>>25061121
ye

>> No.25061133

>>25061107
this is pretty funny because I know you weren't even smiling when you typed that

>> No.25061165
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>> No.25061166

>>25061156
beg me for the url and i'll post it

>> No.25061169

bet your mom joined the デ部 back in high school

>> No.25061230

>>25061198
nah i will just use a vpn

>> No.25061351

>>25061280
what did you read today and how much of it did you read?

>> No.25061355

>>25061280
wow so deep

>> No.25061354
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lets gooooooo

>> No.25061399

>>25061375
that didnt happen but yeah it was a win because i wouldnt have found out about kitsunekko if you hadnt posted the screenshot lol
but i apologize for calling you guys retards that was mean

>> No.25061452

how long have you been "studying" japanese and how much of this do you "understand"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFZNmg3nip8

>> No.25061487

>>25061399
its like someone throwing out rotting food in the dumpster and a hobo grinning thinking how stupid that is and how its a big win for him lol pathetic

>> No.25061497

>>25061452
Not even going to click

>> No.25061511

>>25061487
clench

>> No.25061522

>>25061487
I've seen quite a few people around here with a distinctly chink attitude but yours is the stinkiest. Go chew betel nut.

>> No.25061532

>>25061511
Snivel, you're the one living in a shithole

>> No.25061580

>>25061552
Yeah, they love to make totally spurious status claims & conflate a person's value with how many foreign cars their dad owns. Personally I can't blame them, it's easy to see that if I were Chinese I would also be eternally chased by the reality that my status is insufficient as a human being.

>> No.25061584

>>25061522
it's a pretty accurate description though lol

>> No.25061597

>>25059826
>>25059874
if it was just one guy spamming it that would be one thing, but banning people for saying an annoying word? come on son

it mainly boils down to regulars who know each other and want to use the thread as a general chatroom, don't like it being slow for lack of anything to contribute, and will shitpost/derail/evade/etc. to drive that point home.
you'd need people who were completely uninterested in that wankery to make posts regardless and report-and-ignore off-topic posts, which would be largely unappreciated by the regulars

>> No.25061602

>>25061580
You know, you sound pretty ass-blasted right now

>> No.25061611
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25061611

>>25061487

>> No.25061625

>>25061602
>>25061584
See if your dad will pay for that plastic surgery you've been wanting, mewing just isn't going to do it for you.

>> No.25061639

>>25061611
Forced headcanon lol, kringe

>> No.25061652

>>25061639
>>25061625
>>25061602
>>25061580
>>25061552
where are you uppercasers coming from
int?

>> No.25061691

>>25061452
damn this anime is lit

>> No.25061700

>>25061625
Yeah I'm toootally a chink dude, my fefes are so hurt now what am I going to do please don't badmouth the Chinese!!
lol numbskulls keep spoonfeeding these retards, you're all in the same iq category

>> No.25061725

>>25061652
Probably took >>25060374 too seriously

>> No.25061748

>>25061652
>if you don't post like subverting namefags you're from int
Ok dude

>> No.25061785

>>25061652
they are from the hololive threads

>> No.25061796

>>25061785
How much does jml pay you to suck him off

>> No.25061812

mixed casing aka notgivingafuck casing is the best I think

>> No.25061818

ate are you seeing this

>> No.25061950

>>25061908
Y would you want to know that

>> No.25061978


By one’s side . . . crotch.

lmfao

>> No.25061990

>>25061978
so this the power of rtk

>> No.25062003

>>25061990

Woman . . . crotch.

there's no way I'm forgetting any of these

>> No.25062008

ガスって

こんなばくはつするの?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MsZGZ0IDkE

>> No.25062030

As a primitive, it will mean crotch, as in the crotch of the arm. Or whatever.

Heisig dgaf

>> No.25062119

There's an aussie crossboarder here and let me tell you I don't take that shit lightly

>> No.25062176

>>25062119
biatch *splurt* if u wanna start talkin shit about bushland,...
man you dont wanna get hin wid me, y-you know u cant win heh dont even try

>> No.25062408

>rapey UNCLE has you pinned down
if you look ABOVE a LITTLE, you'll see his CROTCH

>> No.25062462

what do you think of when you imagine LONELINESS?
dno about you guys but from my hentai exp I think of an UNCLE in a HOUSE pitifully sitting all by himself

>> No.25062527

>> No.25062553

a BRANCH
is like a NEEDLE sticking out of your CROTCH lol

>> No.25062605

>>25062527
all i see is MOUNTAINS ABOVE and BELOW
yep I'm at a MOUNTAIN PASS alright

>> No.25062660

a LIMB is literally A PART OF THE BODY that's a BRANCH

>> No.25062739

I hope you're learning some vocab and readings at the same time bro

>> No.25062785

threads pretty bad today, glad i evacuated to the discord

>> No.25062871

>>25062785
dont come back

>> No.25062958

guise how do I rip pitch accent audio from OJAD

>> No.25062997

>>25061355
absolutely is. ugh i wish other shows could make me feel things

>> No.25063369
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25063369

bros

>> No.25063371 [DELETED] 

I want to be kill by girl

>> No.25063441

when to switch to monolingual dictionary? after jouyou + ~8-10k vocab?

>> No.25063516

>>25063371
What's in it for me?

>> No.25063653

what's exactly the point of using "yo" at the end of phrases? I get that "ne" is like asking a question but a phrase with yo and without yo seems to me like it means the same.

>> No.25063682

>>25063653
there's no point, just use ze instead

example: "Yeah, たのしかったぜ"
translation: "it was fuckin lit"

>> No.25063721

>>25063653
It's like "you didn't know this before and I'm saying this for your benefit, be grateful bitch"

>> No.25063760

>>25063721
that's for zo

>> No.25063823

>>25063760
Oh, yeah
Well I guess yo is more like "you might not know this, so pay attention"

>> No.25064018

spent a whole hour trying to customize my cards and learning css
now i'm just going to sleep

>> No.25064113

>>25063441
imo you shouldn't switch until you're 20k vocab in (all common words)
just keep reading in context until then and writing your own definitions from what you understand (try to write a couple of descriptive lines instead of a dry 2-3 word phrase)

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25064151

bros...

>> No.25065494

あっつい

あついよ

なんぼみずのんでもたらないわ

>> No.25065882

>>25065494
>なんぼ
What the fuck this isn't even common

>> No.25065981

i'm interested in learning japanese. i've heard genki is pretty shit. is this true? is there a better way to start learning, or is genki actually good?

>> No.25066149

デカダンスはいしんされてる?

5わが

鬱回っぽいんだけど

みる?

>> No.25066417

i've been consistently staying awake until i can't hold my eyes open and when i wake up i immediately feel mad that sleep defeated me. but tonight, for the first time in weeks, i think i'm going to tuck myself in and go to bed. good night, /djt/

>> No.25067292

>>25066526
Nice blogpost

>> No.25067297

japanese women really like saying やばい during sex huh
funny how you never see that word being uttered in javs or h manga

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25067300

Are these worth remembering?

>> No.25067840

I've been studying Japanese for three years now ahead of a Japan trip and I enjoyed it so much I kept going. I started out with Human Japanese (which has probably been the most helpful) and have been doing vocab and sentence practice (memrise, Duolingo, drops, etc.), kanji practice (wanikani), listening practice (going to sleep to anime every night, YouTube, podcasts, video games) and taking to people (hello talk). I am trying to focus on how much I have improved over where I was, but I can't help but feel like I'm stuck currently. On one hand I can look back and be proud that I can catch some words from anime, read hundreds of kanji, and have spoken Japanese to native speakers. However, I can't help but look ahead and see an ocean in front of me. I still have probably 1500 kanji to hit the magical 2,000 mark. I looked at an easy NHK article today and its exhausting and incredibly time consuming for me to read through it, and communicating with people on hello talk still finds me doing frequent rewrites, grammar lookups, and mistakes even with basic to slightly complex sentences. Some days I feel like I have this awesome foundation and I'm just a good month of studying away from it all clicking and basic typing and speaking is not going to be such a struggle. Other days I think I'm totally wasting my time and after three years I still have to look up basics like how does a どちらが sentence work again? I don't expect to be fluent anytime soon, but I would love to get to the point where I can have elementary level conversations without straining so much, and listen to Japanese media without getting lost several sentences at a time despite subtitles telling me there are words I think I should know.

Have any of you out there experienced this? How did you get passed it? Have you ever been frustrated feeling like you should be further? Is there something that finally made it 'click' for you?

>> No.25068237

おなかすいた

コロッケたべたい

>> No.25068727

>>25067840
id wanna kms if i was 3 years in and basically knew nothing like this person holy shit almost tempted to go to the reddit thread and set him straight

>> No.25069082
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25069082

What 直した方 is supposed to mean here? Is this some kind of set phrase?

>> No.25069470

>>25069082
google た方がいい

>> No.25069601

>>25069470
Thanks

>> No.25070194

>>25069470
そのばあいは

>googleしたほうがいい

こうか

>googleったほうがいい

こっち

>> No.25070988

>>25067840
this is a reminder to how hard this is, and also read more

>> No.25071034

このロリコンどもめ

>> No.25071232

https://twitter.com/chizurunotjapan/status/1288731576591818755

>> No.25071241

>>25071232
amusing how its recognize as opposed to read

>> No.25071491
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pics of me trying to learn nihongo

>> No.25071773

童貞だからね

>> No.25072198

getting paid on gold day, drinking yourself into the gutter on dirt day
yup its good to be alive

>> No.25072320

is there any way to only get japanese results when searching for a word on google? getting a ton of chink shit when i search for stuff.

>> No.25072386

>>25072345
oh yeah im dumb

>> No.25072611

>>25072386
yeah you are bro

>> No.25072642

>>25072006
>watching chinkshit

>> No.25073060

>>25072176
that im fine with by now, but i still struggle to remember the planets

>> No.25073179

>>25073060
watch sailor moon and learn the characters names

>> No.25073188

>>25073060
maybe you should make a flashcard for all of them

>> No.25073278

>>25073179
who's sailor 地球?

>> No.25073344

>>25073278
you should be able to remember the word for earth bro

>> No.25073893

水星
金星
地球
火星
木星
土星
天王星
海王星

>> No.25074227

pretty sure earth is flat

>> No.25075142

planning my trip to the edge of the earth

>> No.25075286

wakey wakey amerisharts

>> No.25075536

>>25075527
kanjitomo, sharex ocr function

>> No.25075610
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daily reminder that there are babies and retards that learn this language and you can too unless youre 70+ years old then its too late for you

>> No.25075632

so do official blurays not come with jp subs or something for deaf people?

>> No.25075685

>>25075637
you mean people surrounded in the language like ajatt and mia say to do?

>> No.25075935
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pure japs

>> No.25075967

>>25075875
it ez i upped it to 100 new cards + mining 20-30 a day and im at 95%+ true retention

been doing it for 3 weeks now

>> No.25075970

>>25075875
idk theres no way i could have done it, either they have very good memory or mine is shit. i can do 100 now easily but the knowing the readings for a lot of them is very helpful. if i were doing 100 words and i didnt know the kanji in any of them i probably wouldnt bother.

>> No.25076137

>>25075875
they don't

>> No.25076156

>>25076092
you've posted this 3-4 times now you fucking piece of shit stfu already before i decapitate you

>> No.25076191

gonna post it next thread too now

>> No.25076248

https://twitter.com/SeaboltSpeaks/status/1288651912523513858

>> No.25076273

>>25076248
>the devil is a part timer as a first viewing
what do these niggas not understand about comprehensible input

>> No.25076311

he's a weaboo because he likes animation despite not understanding the story? wtf???

>> No.25076484

why can't japanese be like this:

我 一会儿 就 来
i a little while just come

看 她 多 漂亮 啊!
look she (emphasis) beautiful (interjection)

病人 今天 好 多了。
patient today well much more

>> No.25076588

no inflections, subject-verb-object structure
come to the chinese side, you guys

>> No.25076592

like what

>> No.25076598

>>25076516
です means desu

>> No.25076710

>>25076588
what reason would i have to learn chink

>> No.25076751

>>25076710
to know japanese culture better. at one point, jp were only reading chinese shit
they had complicated shit that ""helped"" you read chinese like it was japanese, i forgot the term

>> No.25076791

>>25076516
i as for gay to be honest

>> No.25076810

day 5 of 100 words per day in the books, had 400 reviews or some shit today, wasn't too bad. my usual is like 150 and it's definitely going to go a lot higher than 400 but if i split it into 2 sessions it should be ok. im not gonna be doing this for that long anyways. one thing is that it probably doesnt feel too tedious now cause i have 90+ retention but once these cards start maturing that'll drop and i'll probably get more frustrated.

>> No.25076814

china is the worst country ever

>> No.25076926

>>25076877
no it doesnt make sense to learn any of these languages

>> No.25076939

>>25076877
why would you learn french cause characters in some anime have french names? what the fuck are you even saying idiot??

>> No.25076944

>>25076877
I already know german.
Will learn french at some point but nihongo and mandarin first.

>> No.25076963

>>25076939
france is also the land that gave us lingerie.

>> No.25077054

>>25075859
its exactly the same, input is input. the only difference is that you have more starting information. if you seriously are 70 then none of this applies to you

>> No.25077138

https://streamable.com/aid58x

they don't do fights like this anymore

>> No.25077146

>>25076877
what the fuck

>> No.25077220

going to rewatch toradora

>> No.25077409

if you still gotta argue about translation shit its because you havent acquired japanese well enough to dab past that shit

>> No.25077423

>>25077130
>i thought you were supposed to be smart
be honest. you knew jamal was a tard from the start.

>> No.25077450

>>25077436
20,000 at least

>> No.25077458

dunning kruger should be renamed the jamal effect

>> No.25077468

>>25077396
name calling as in ad hominem, at the man, instead of the argument. i thought you could at least make that leap
..and there was no utters or schooling in your replies

>> No.25077487

わたしはゲイでございます
I have a seat on gay

>> No.25077566

didnt read the last 50 posts but im thinkin jamal won

>> No.25077568

>>25077523
If thats true why did you call a chink that one time then?

>> No.25077570

>>25077458
>beginner level fag thinks he can "acquire" japanese just like a kid because he memorized a bunch of dictionary definitions and believes he can understand manga/anime, despite not having the intricacies of his worldview molded by japanese culture
>claims jamal suffers from the dunning-kruger effect
like potatoes

>> No.25077653

cant stand these low iq conversations

>> No.25077655

>>25077625
no one cares about your autistc made up rules now shut the fuck up and post another youtube link

>> No.25077735

>>25077689
yep best of luck to you

>> No.25077742

>>25077625
youll always be the djt monkey and your opinions are utterly shit, even if you throw a few kanji in theyll still be shit. because you dont think things through

>> No.25077816

is it worth it doing a kanji deck so i at least recognize the components
i feel i struggle with vocab with kanji that i havent seen frequently

>> No.25077869

>>25077769
yea not in the zone today, plus hes just acting like a kid and you can really argue with them. i mean we all know its possible to get fluent so its whatever. i just wanted to shit on him for saying "japanese is impossible" when all he does is hang out in an english thread all day.

>> No.25077875

>>25077832
i could kill him with one punch

>> No.25077899

why do we accept outside of anki to look at the word and hear the audio at the same time and think that helps but we are afraid of doing the same inside anki (put the audio on the front of the card) to recall the meaning?

>> No.25077902

>>25077816
there's so many kanji that unless you dedicate half a year to studying them it own't help much

>> No.25077903

jamal doesnt really know japanese anything similar to the way a native does either since he doesnt have two japanese parents and didnt grow up in japan but i think he doesnt get that

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>>25077875
gl he is part of 幻影旅団

>> No.25077963

>>25077899
yeah im not sure because sometimes i click ok just to read the furigana without looking at the meaning and i can tell whats in the back

>> No.25078005

that's why you watch 5000 hours of peppa pig

>> No.25078012

>>25077902
what if i learn all the joyo

>> No.25078052

>>25077899
imo its pretty effective, i used that to boost my listening. dont stick to a specific format, mix things up, i have about 10 different types i use now and theyre all great for different things

>> No.25078104

>>25077966
>there's interaction
thats the only thing thats really different, parents teach their kids a lot of little stuff. but you know a lot of stuff from your first language too, so i think it about evens out. the problem is people want to be as good as a 20 year old in 2 years and thats not going to happen

>> No.25078111

>>25077966
doesnt matter

>> No.25078116

>>25077899
because your goal is to either: learn to read or learn to listen.

reading and hearing the audio is a crutch that eventually you want to stop. that's why it is recommended that after you know like 3000 or so words you start reading text only without audio.

>> No.25078131

>>25077975
>japanese is impossible
>ppl who know japanese
contradicting yourself this rapidly, take your meds grandpa

>> No.25078221

>>25078012
youll be exposed to most of them if you go through core6k or even if you read manga/vns/lns
try spending 3 weeks memorizing the kangxi radicals and then use the jisho app to look up unknown kanji by their radicals. no need for mnemonics or isolated kanji study.

>> No.25078231

There absolutely is an objective metric for knowing Kanji and it's called passing Kanken 2

>> No.25078319

i was gonna say something mean to jamal but then i realized he was owning these noobs really hard ganbare jamal!

>> No.25078320

No but I know Kanji

>> No.25078381

Yes many puns like >>25061978 lol

>> No.25078383

>>25078279
sure. nobody ever actually uses radicals other than for the sake of looking kanji up in the dictionary or knowing how to write them, so you could even give them your own keywords if you want to.

>> No.25078409

https://youtu.be/SXLTOXMCqmo?t=138
wow cant believe jamal never posted this

>> No.25078420

>>25078383
alright thank you

>> No.25078421

>>25078319
self own

>> No.25078505

a huge revelation is that u can have fun in japanese despite actually not knowing japanese

>> No.25078540

>>25078484
how make it look like this

>> No.25078572

>>25078524
dno maybe i just didnt open it or was somewhere else

>> No.25078606

Don't be stingy now, link that pastebin with the class file already

>> No.25078610

>>25078484
what is recognition rtk

>> No.25078689

>>25078655
check irc and delete your post as soon as you can

>> No.25078691

>>25078610
you just look at the kanji and try to recall the keyword and maybe draw it a few times

>> No.25078699

>>25078661
wow looks like shit

>> No.25078716

>>25078671
yeah dno bro

>> No.25078717

https://youtu.be/FI8e-Y7NSAg

>> No.25078721

>you should stop talking about him or even taking his name, this isnt some celeb thread

>> No.25078733

>>25078684
because the thread is not about you, attention whore. you're like a smell that lingers around. i mostly interact with people that say something interesting

>> No.25078748

>25078699
yea you can make it look like 78484 with that

>> No.25078772

>>25078715
it doesn't and it's not supposed to
it's made for complete beginners who've never seen kanji before so they can get used to them and make them look less like random scribbles to you

>> No.25078906

>>25078838
damn jamal this was a reach... broo.. sorry to say but it was

-idiot guy

>> No.25078972

>>25078892

>> No.25078988

>>25078950
>but do give the mental strength to no afraid of kanji

>> No.25079004

>do recognition rtk
>end up knowing japansese
>saved many hours on the writing meme

>> No.25079009

>>25078863
customizing the anki ui
just seems like a time sink that has absolutely no benefit

>> No.25079028

>>25078950
RRTK defeats the whole point, just do the full thing already
it's so tiring repeatedly debunking the same myths over and over

>> No.25079057

>>25079009
I think spending a few minutes improving the appearance of something you stare at for several hours a week is well worth it

>> No.25079061

rtk truly is the superior way to learn japanese

>> No.25079062

my ui is pages of a book

>> No.25079092

>>25078950
>>25079028
i think it's not the worst thing you can do
it's easy, takes a miniscule amount of time compared to real rtk and gives the same main benefit of rtk which is getting used to kanji
and yeah i don't think learning how to write is the main benefit of rtk if you want to write you should learn it once you know some japanese and without the help of retarded english mnemonics

>> No.25079108

when are we gonna admit that VNs didnt get worse they just got a shinier look to them?????

>> No.25079110

>>25079092
>takes a miniscule amount of time compared to real rtk
>gives the same main benefit of rtk
>which is getting used to kanji
Patently false on all accounts

>> No.25079112

>>25079110
don't think so

>> No.25079140

>>25079110
what's the benefit of rtk then?

>> No.25079177

>>25079129
SugarKiss!

>> No.25079184

>>25079140
remembering how to write kanji.

>> No.25079185

>>25079129
raging loop

>> No.25079198

>>25079129
is totono recent enough

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>>25079185
yeah its shit

>> No.25079211

>>25079140
free up the rest of your life not learning japanese since you would have quit

>> No.25079216

>>25079184
yeah dude i love trying to recall some english bullshit story while handwriting in japanese

>> No.25079217

>>25079129
Rance 10

>> No.25079326

>>25079300
this post made me laugh

>> No.25079336

>>25079261
Fuck off
>>25060374

>> No.25079367

>>25079316
is it really that bad? so far the sol parts are actually making me laugh out loud and the creepy parts are cool

>> No.25079372

in case anyone gives a shit i managed to rip all 36 sub files for the second season of durarara and added them to kitsunekko.

holy shit was it tedious though. I've been using a tampermonkey script called Netflix subtitle downloader and it's worked fine in the past but this time it gave me 3 blue screen crashes for some reason. does anyone know a good alternative?

>> No.25079390

>>25079372
Did you get your subs checked first though

>> No.25079409

>>25079326
A common form of coping

>> No.25079420

>>25079390
what do you mean? i opened a few of them before i converted them to srt cause there is sometimes some superfluous text or styling that netflix adds on but it was fine.

>> No.25079422

>>25079307
it won't take that long to get to avg nip adult level like not even close
quizler's writing cards are actually a good idea and the best part is you'll even learn to write words
which is another big problem with rtk even if you can recall all kanji from memory you won't be able to write for shit cuz you it'll be 曖昧 to you exactly what kanji words are made up of

>> No.25079459

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QhUokgT_4s

>> No.25079469

https://vndb.org/v24853
thinking about playing this
should i or you guys know bout better ones

>> No.25079474

>>25079422
Everyone knows you're supposed to learn a word for each reading while picking up Kanji in rtk so this is a moot point

>> No.25079487

>>25079459
u r late to the party

>> No.25079499

>>25079474
lmao

>> No.25079563

>>25079474
everybody on djt knows that but it seems like ajatters/miaers still think they gotta do rtk first because khatz told them to do it that way

>> No.25079687

Reading time is for reading.. Listening time is for listening. What do subs people have trouble understanding in this?

>> No.25079692

how to stop reading anime

>> No.25079700

>>25079687
i do whatever the fuck i want bitch now suck it

>> No.25079725

>>25079439
Eat my shit jamal

>> No.25079745

>>25079687
sorry, i don't belong in a cult

>> No.25079818

>>25079805
>Only took about 3 months
how much you study per day
stats?

>> No.25079819

>>25079805
>for each possible reading
sure thing you do lol

>> No.25079872

just got back from washing the dishes

>> No.25079895

>>25079593
we actually recommend kanjidamage over wanikani since kanjidamage is free

>> No.25079897

>>25079878
>I mean for each possible reading of a Kanji
i know what you meant and that's still bullshit

>> No.25079898

>>25079882
imagine the satisfaction of beating this guy to a bloody pulp, i think i'd literally bust a nut as i was doing it

>> No.25079916

>>25079897
? That's only like 3-4 words per Kanji

>> No.25079940

imagien being jealous of people that learn japanese having fun because you dont like anime lol

>> No.25079941

>>25079918
That would prove nothing though, anyone can look up the stroke order

>> No.25079974

rtkers usually have awful handwriting though.

>> No.25079975

u cant learn japanese from anime, games, vn or manga

>> No.25079980

heisig is shilling hard today

>> No.25079985

>>25079940
dude..dude, bro.. im trying to imagine but like... i just cant lol

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>>25079930

>> No.25080041

>>25079941
if youre not a pussy you should be able to write 森羅万象 pretty well

>> No.25080046

>>25079989
baited lol

>> No.25080065

gonna dab on rtkers till one of them posts a neat handwriting sample

>> No.25080069

I read an interiew with James Heisig where he mentioned learning to speak Japanese by playing with children, somewhere up in the mountains. How could you even make this stuff up? So when I heard the man was in Tokyo, I knew I had to ask him about it.

Because here’s the extent of what I learned from children by teaching grade school in Japan for several years: The word for lunch. How to say “I’m so cold.” How to say “I’m so hot.” How to grab your teacher’s penis and exclaim “bigu sticku.” How to insert your fingers up his butt in a move known as the kancho. Beyond that, children typically ramble about some toy or cartoon or playground game. They’re not going to coach you on how to make hotel reservations or order up another plate of gyoza. The idea that one could learn to speak from them is insane. They can’t even use the language decently themselves. That’s because they’re freaking kids.

I met Heisig at a writer’s workshop. He seemed a pleasant enough fellow, and a fine teller of grandiose stories. After listening to his well-polished tale about singlehandedly inventing a way of learning Japanese characters that millions of Japanese folks had never thought of in their thousands of years of history, I finally got a chance to ask him, “How did you learn to speak it?”

“I played baseball with the kids,” was his reply. “Up in the mountains. In Nagano.

“You played baseball?” I asked. “With children?

“Yep.

“And that’s how you learned to speak Japanese?

“Sure. Children are the best teachers.”

>> No.25080074

going to the store soon

>> No.25080083

does quizmaster really self make all his writing cards?

>> No.25080095

>>25079129
midduh midduh midduh muramasa

>> No.25080100

taking a dump brb

>> No.25080146

still never seen anything written by qm in japanese either by hand on paper or on ms paint
gonna believe hes too much of a pussy to even write 順風満帆

>> No.25080180

>>25079445
stfu moe
quiz learned a lot using subs

>> No.25080183

thought on the QM low input approach?

>> No.25080187

>>25080095
>muramasa
that shits old af by now

>> No.25080209

last time i saw qm didnt even know or respect stroke order

>> No.25080292

>>25080237
damn japanese uni sounds based as fuck, probably comfy teaching there if u dont give a shit about educating people

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the fuck?

>> No.25080324

RTK isn't really about the book, or even about the particular methods thereof. It is more about the entire philosophy of taking responsibility for your own learning and getting acclimatized to making personal mnemonics for remembering things. Of course, that is only temporary - with only a few recalls, the patterns will get so permanently ingrained that production will be effortless and automatic, and so will, by extension, recognition (recalling that the ability to produce subsumes the ability to recognize).

As you proceed with your Japanese studies beyond Kanji using SRS methods, you will soon realize the most optimal way to learn and acquire is to read and encounter words in context and then make your OWN flashcards, replete with vivid phraseology reflecting YOUR inner world. The diligent student who scrupulously followed RTK will benefit greatly from finding themselves in a familiar position and will accelerate ahead without stumbling over such obstacles.

>> No.25080391

>>25080360
i have question do you use reddit

>> No.25080417

>>25080404
i was just curious if you were the unashamed reddit using guy carry on

>> No.25080424

>>25080417
ok i lied that is me lmao

>> No.25080431

ourguy is making it

https://twitter.com/SeaboltSpeaks/status/1288866535138828288

>> No.25080436

>>25080324
lot of stuff to mine in this one

>> No.25080456

>unashamed reddit using guy
thats moribiito guy. and he WOULD fuck the 40 year old hottie for the record
>>25080424
oh nevermind

>> No.25080509

>>25079895
wanikani anki decks exist

>> No.25080579

already felt like shit and just accidentally fucked my dopamine even more

>> No.25080655

dopamines are about as real as flat earth

>> No.25080711

dopamine is real but reddit pseudoscientists are completely wrong about it

>> No.25080716

https://youtu.be/20sfkIzQ0TA

>> No.25080720

>>25080431
doesnt he have a wife and kids, and if so i would assume a job too? how is that even possible

>> No.25080742

>>25080720
he doesn't shitpost here in the little free time he has and he neglects his wife and child

>> No.25080766

>>25080431
by it you mean spreadsheets

>> No.25080768

>>25080579
vidya or fap?

>> No.25080797

>>25080768
cute nip cosplay girls
nothing fucks with me more than that for some reason

>> No.25080830

anybody ever noticed how none of the mia people read moege?
is it because reading moege is a very intimate activity, in contrast to what people on youtube/twitter want, which open but superficial interactions with real people?
>inb4 we're real people too

>> No.25080888

>>25079563
I think I should do rtk first because Chris Broad who has lived in japan for 5 years and can barely read told me to.

>> No.25080908

>>25080888
never heard of her

>> No.25080923

>>25080908
>her
its a male

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>>25079593
I recommend it to other people who have trouble motivating themselves to do the daily grind but it doesn't do anything you can't do with a properly set up anki.

>> No.25081010

>>25080989
shut da fuck up

>> No.25081031

>>25081010
oh ok :(

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>>25080981

>> No.25081103

>>25081075
how much should i fuck if i "want" to acquire nihongo

>> No.25081116

>>25081079
post a sample of your handwriting, faggot

>> No.25081165

>>25081075
>>25081078
>>25081086
cringe

>> No.25081187

>>25080989
good luck

>> No.25081207

>>25081128
yeah i mean im slightly worried
never feel like making any moves towards fucking, and was told its menhera shit to not do it

>> No.25081360

>>25081116
I just said anyone can look up the stroke order, wtf are you looking for?

>> No.25081369

>>25081295
yeah maybe, but feels like its more caused by my fellow humans

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is this even japanese?
fuck me really, im ngmi

>> No.25081485

>>25081360
he needs something to nitpick

>> No.25081576

>>25081465


課長
read more bitch

>> No.25081622

jamaggot back at it with his afternoon clenching sessions

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25081678

Hey you guys already watched Kyouryuu Shoujo Gauko? It's pretty easy to understand and even moderately funny for a kids show. Can definitely recommend.

>> No.25081684

Anal radius control finesse

>> No.25081714

>>25081678
i like to watch things that are fun/good so no

>> No.25081842

>>25081714
it's really not so bad, and the episodes are like 10 mins. So I like to watch those between more challenging series, to kind of keep myself motivated. It all depends on your level. But if you are beginner / intermediate it's pretty hard to find only so much shows like Mitsuboshi Colors out there.

>> No.25081847

>>25081511
lmふぁお
great post

>> No.25081851

>>25079974
bitch, i have awful handwriting in my own language

>> No.25081871

>>25081842
You should just be shutting the fuck up if you're a beginner/intermediate and grind on your Kanji first

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>>25081842

>> No.25081932

>>25081909
I'm >>25081576 and I did RTK bitch

>> No.25081996

PSA: Don't try learning how to write with a ballpoint pen. Invest in a proper felt tip lettering pen.
Learn from my mistakes.

>> No.25082003

today i can't be arsed to study. i'll just watch 40 minutes of raw anime and that's it

>> No.25082117

>>25080989
you're on the right track
learn words, not invidividual kanji
also start getting into native material as soon as possible, look up the words and grammar you come across until you're fluent
good luck

>> No.25082142

>>25082117
No, learn Kanji and pick up some vocab supplementing the readings on the side
No one without dedicated Kanji study has ever made it without wasting thousands of hours on inefficient pseud methods

>> No.25082147

>>25081996
tombow fudenosuke chad here

>> No.25082150

>>25081079
>I've made it with Joyo
how much raw anime have you watched
how many untranslated books manga vinnies have you read

>> No.25082168

わきちらはせいぎ

>> No.25082220

>>25082150
I don't know Japanese, just kanji and about 9k in Japanese vocab

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@ciaran is this even japanese?

>> No.25082231

>>25082208
based

>> No.25082300

>>25081927
man shoujo shuumatsu was a good anime, it had soul. can't wait to rewatch it in japanese

>> No.25082310

remembering a song but can't think of what anime it's from haha this is maddening

>> No.25082372

>>25081871

>> No.25082429

>>25081980
t. goes both ways retard

>> No.25082438

どこにかけても聞こえてくるのは
i cant understand this sentence at all
and i dont know if it's nikakete or dokoni kaketemo

>> No.25082446

>>25082422
anon pls

>> No.25082458

>>25082415
wow I thought I was the only one who really liked this OP, it's like a top 10 for me

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>> No.25082581

>>25082524
yomichan doesnt recognize the first kanji ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.25082608

>>25082438
>>25082480
助けてくれブロス

>> No.25082667

>>25082584
>Watching shows is a waste of time
You're not really getting better by watching raw anime if you're a beginner, stop deluding yourself

>> No.25082675

>>25082667
clench

>> No.25082688

>>25082589
it's not about what I think, friendo
t. is an abbreviation of a finnish word that means "regards"

>> No.25082689

>>25082675
lol

>> No.25082693

>>25082480
>>25082473
he's right you know
どこにかけても
聞こえてくるのは
でたらめな情ばかりか

どこにかけても is doki ni kakete mo and means something along the lines of no matter wherever we're calling, no matter what number we're calling
now figure out the rest or just move on

>> No.25082701

>>25082693
sounds about right, thanks a bunch mate

>> No.25082731

>>25082584
>Watching shows with subs is a waste of time.
>Also the often recommended non non is pretty hard for me.
ah i see you've summited mount stupid lol

>> No.25082738

>>25082688
You clearly didn't read the post

>> No.25082758

imagine telling other people what is or isn't a waste of time while having a hard time with fucking flying witch lol love beginners giving stupid advice and crippling each other

>> No.25082767

>>25082731
actually laughed

>> No.25082780

So I'm too retarded to install Flyable Heart, can anyone help me out? System locale is JP, I can't mount the mdf file and can't extract the BLOSSOM NOIZE SELECTION rar (downloaded girlcelly from sukebei)

>> No.25082788

>>25082584
non non biyori is seinen, some epidoses have dense vocabulary, there are easiers shows out there

>> No.25082798

You start riding a bike before you know how. You start wearing skates before you know how to skate. You start watching without subs before you understand.
anyone want to debunk khatzumoto the best japanese speaker ever?

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>>25082688
ふざけるな
よろしくお願いします

>> No.25082807

here is a good thread for you jamal >>>/int/127776846
use your trip so we can see what posts are yours
have fun talking to native japanese speakers

>> No.25082845

>>25082798
At this point it doesn't even matter what you say
IQ gatekeeps all

>> No.25082851

>>25082788
>some epidoses have dense vocabulary
lol

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>>25082277
>>25082418
could matt read this?

>> No.25082857

>>25082816
stop comparing flying witch to non on biyori retard, like i said non non biyori is seinen, flying witch manga even has furigana.

>> No.25082922

>>25082872
didnt know love live was that easy but i dnt think i can watch it again
it was really fucking boring when i watched it with eng subs

>> No.25082933

>>25082915
it is based on some metric
not sure what metric tho

>> No.25082942

500 hours of peppa pig is no joke, if you can't understand that then you might as well pack your pags lmao

>> No.25082945

>>25082942
yeah but peppa pig is boring

>> No.25082948

>>25082942
>pags

>> No.25082986

>>25082962
>inutile
mined

>> No.25082995

>>25082962
>>>/int/djt

>> No.25083003

>>25082962
Don't be ridiculous. How can watching content in your target language not be one of the best ways to learn that language? Best thing of course would be to talk to people, but since I don't know any Japanese people and don't want to talk to random strangers on vrchat. I mainly stick to watching anime.

>> No.25083008

>>25082975
>thrice
mined

>> No.25083012

>>25082995
No one asked you to announce your homeboard

>> No.25083043

>>25082975
seinen has nothing to do with difficulty though only the target demographic of the magazine it was published in which is why youre dumb

>> No.25083044

>vrchat
lmfao

>> No.25083054

ひんやりした

あさやけが

せみのおきるまえに

あたしをおこす

>> No.25083085
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matt says

IMMERSE!

>> No.25083109

>>25083085
filtered

>> No.25083138

せみにおこされるのはいやだ

せみにおこされるのはいやだ

>> No.25083143 [DELETED] 

Learning a language is not just about the books you bought and the methods you're using. Your success depends on your state of mind, and right here, right now, in this very paragraph, I am going to reveal to you my own secret method. This is my technique, my trick and my number one tip for anyone who wants to be successful in learning languages: be confident.

>> No.25083147

watched 9 hours of anime today...i'm pooped, got half way through gakkou gurashi and mined 432 animecards

>> No.25083151

>>25083143
>This is my technique, my trick and my number one tip for anyone who wants to be successful in learning languages: be confident.
https://streamable.com/r5udt4

>> No.25083161

>>25083143
Learning a language is not just about the books you bought and the methods you're using. Your success depends on your state of mind, and right here, right now, in this very paragraph, I am going to reveal to you my own secret method. This is my technique, my trick and my number one tip for anyone who wants to be successful in learning languages: just be yourself.

>> No.25083165

>>25083143
Yep we could do with a few more confident retards lol

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>>25083147
william sellers?

>> No.25083201

>>25083174
yeah gonna dos攻撃 him live

>> No.25083212

>mined 432 animecards
jeez you fucks my record is 70

>> No.25083229

>>25083212
ngmi

>> No.25083258

>>25083247
nihongod

>> No.25083273

>>25083212
did u spend more time making the cards than watching the anime

>> No.25083296

>>25083247
that's easily 1000 hours worth of anime right there, so probably close to 8,000,000 words total

>> No.25083318

anki is really more important since you end up learning so much doing your reps everyday which you take into anime and manga

its definitely worth the effort

>> No.25083330

what do you think matt is going to talk about in his stream!? i'm so excited i can't even study now lole

>> No.25083332

People who've never amounted to anything tend to think no one else can.

>> No.25083352

dont wanna do my reps

>> No.25083374

>>25083352
same

>> No.25083383

>>25083352
skip them and read a cool doujin

>> No.25083397

>>25079530
that card format is magnificent because not only does it ask for you to make the kanji instead of recognize a kanji and then pull up the meaning, but it also has multiple words with translations so you need to get every single one wrong to fail the card

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>>25083374
pog pog pog pogCHAMP POGCHAM PODFJPSDOFJSDOPFJDSPFOKJD:FL OMG GUYS HE DID IT POGGGGGERFS

>> No.25083421

>>25083399
you should pay him to suck his dick too

>> No.25083431

50k is literally nothing i always just assumed he had like 700k already

>> No.25083488

my acquiring receptors seem to have 200x multiplier while i'm masturbating, is there any science behind this?

>> No.25083503

when will jamal open his youtube channel and upload djt-related stuff?

>> No.25083515

>>25083488
compelling content or something

>> No.25083555

>>25083399
what the fuck is wrong with you

>> No.25083712

>>25083273
huh

>> No.25083714

could anyone explain the texture of なかなか?

>> No.25083737

>>25083714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXpnkKawuk8

>> No.25083747

>>25083714
それは中々難しいかもしれません

>> No.25083765

>>25083747
Good post

>> No.25083838

>>25083399
not gonna lie this was a good post and made me laugh, i read a bunch of other posts but none of them were very fun

>> No.25083861

suck my 太刀

>> No.25083892

>>25083877
nope

>> No.25083905

>>25083892
sure buddy

>> No.25083977

>>25083954
Not him but I disagree, I think anon is writing like that to be ironic while upvoting the post

>> No.25083980

havent repped a card in 5 months

>> No.25084017

>>25083954
why not (native US here btw)

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>>25079687
>applying analytic propositions from language to the physical world to make arguments
spuedo intellectuals are so tiresome.

>> No.25084043

@ me when matt starts his stream

>> No.25084052

>>25084033
yes i am i made that post and im a native

>> No.25084083

>first week
>do 10 kanji and 30 - 35 vocab using them while working on grammar daily (neet, i have literally all day to do reps)
>95 - 100% accuracy
>still feel 出来ない

>> No.25084086

>>25084033
Dno, I just don't like bullies

>> No.25084089

>>25084006
what does komesudo mean

>> No.25084099

>>25084052
>>25084067
you're both illiterate

>> No.25084106

>>25084099
why

>> No.25084107

>>25084083
use all day to just read more

>> No.25084114

>>25084099
point the mistake esl

>> No.25084121

the only good videos matt ever made were his rtk video and his 3 hour long ajatt journey talking about how he never made japanese friends because all those flashcards he made didnt help him read kuuki

>> No.25084137

>>25084121
why couldnt he make friends? is he autistic

>> No.25084138

straightforward jp sentences are easy but when they start bending shit around and adding those "untranstable" pieces, shit gets ugly fast

>> No.25084152

>mutt education

>> No.25084154

>>25084137
i think its pretty obvious matt's somewhere on the autism spectrum

>> No.25084158

>>25084099
why don't you just point the mistake, you bitch. i hate people like you.

>> No.25084159

>>25084121
>because all those flashcards he made didnt help him read kuuki
that's entirely his fault though

>> No.25084176

>>25084154
i dont understand, he looks chill on his videos

>> No.25084178

>>25084138
*untranslatable

>> No.25084185

>>25084158
ngmi

>> No.25084187

>>25084138
nothing is untranslatable aside from puns. what you really mean to say is impossible to translate without being unnecessarily long winded and awkward sounding.

>> No.25084238

yeah this is what i meant when i said there werent very many fun posts thanks for illustrating that retards

>> No.25084242

imagine going to japan as a young lad only to eat your mesi in the benjo pushing away the people that tried to make friends with you and coming out hating japan at the end

>> No.25084251

>>25084176
i dont know if you know that autistic people often have a way of presenting themselves before strangers, and don't really have problems with more obvious stuff that gets pointed out to them, but will usually miss out on some slightly more implicit stuff regarding what is appropriate and what isn't, which they're more likely to slip up on the longer they spend with with somebody.

>> No.25084275

>>25084238
sorry, this isn't the daily clown thread. fuck off to 9gag or something

>> No.25084288

someone post the "chotto youji" benjou one

>> No.25084305

>>25084275
dance for me monkey

>> No.25084311

>>25084275
i almost laughed at this but you're gonna have to try harder than that

>> No.25084371

>>25084356
why not (not esl btw)

>> No.25084382

i think theres very few people who actually started from 0 with mia. even calvin and anime godfather tried jfz and
fluent from anime before settling on ajatt/mia.

>> No.25084412

>>25084392
yeah im gonna keep reading posts and laugh at the fun ones

>> No.25084413

>>25084385
cheer up clown, i need to laugh more, youre clenching too much : (

>> No.25084420

>>25084371
Do you really think fun=funny?

>> No.25084435

>>25084420
no

>> No.25084436

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOLTeO-uCYU
friendly reminder to condense your audio for the most efficient immersion gains

>> No.25084438

25084413
25084275
out

>> No.25084442

did jamal ever take japanese classes at some point in his life? or did he just find japanese the manga way and say "yeah, might work"?

>> No.25084447

>>25084420
Isn't funpost a euphemism for shitpost on some boards
Sometimes you laugh at a post because it's strikingly dumb

>> No.25084487

>>25084438
clench while i laugh at fun posts and you out yourself as an esl screeching over perfectly ok sentences

>> No.25084489

even matt acknowledges the incredible power of reading, recommending a 70/30 split for reading/listening. it's over quiz and his anime bullshit has been btfo

>> No.25084492

reading over listening is a cope

>> No.25084506

>>25084489
dont care, i dedicate 70% of my time to watching anime
if you cant comprehend its your problem

>> No.25084510

>>25084489
anime with subtitles IS reading

>> No.25084530

>>25084447
what esl boards do you hang around dude
you "smile" or "grin" etc at something fun

you laugh at a shitpost because it happens to be funny

>> No.25084531

>>25084510
maybe if the audio is muted lol

>> No.25084558 [DELETED] 

>>25084530
no1currs

>> No.25084563

>>25084530
cringe language authority nerd

>> No.25084570

>>25084487
how embarrassing

>> No.25084578

>>25084570
clench

>> No.25084599

clench guy co-opted my funpost thing but he's more fun than most of you so i'll allow it

>> No.25084601

>>25084578
dilate

>> No.25084611

>>25084601
powerlevel revealed

>> No.25084629

>>25084558
>i was pretending!

>> No.25084635

i don't know man... i don't know how to explain it. i feel like jp just isn't sticking... i'm forgetting more than i'm learning. i feel like jp is going through my brain, my brain is like
>fuck this shit, imma forget this in 5 days, fuck u bitch, i don't give a fuck

it's like it only wants to hold a given percentage of the language at a time. it changes what parts but the amount is the same

>> No.25084670

>>25084089
>kome

>> No.25084713

>>25084635
buy a one-way ticket to japan

>> No.25084729

imagine a life of never laughing at fun things i mean what a sad childhood that must be

>> No.25084732

really want to kick the shit out of miatards

>> No.25084772

>>25084750
you should probably also filter sad childhood

>> No.25084777

Why, yes, I use both WaniKani and Bunpro and I pay Japanese YouTubers on Patreon.

>> No.25084780

i actually turned the lesson/contents of this youtube video into an anki deck so that i would never forget how to have fun https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xG-WwqhHBc

>> No.25084842

>>25084827
https://streamable.com/d4prq

>> No.25084847

>>25084827
thats from back when he shared a room with barry and garry and the made him talk like that

>> No.25084859

>>25084842
yeah hes like a different person in this clip..

>> No.25084858

SOMEONE POST THE BENJOU COMIC PLEASE

>> No.25084885

>>25084827
my favorite video

>> No.25084890

>>25084827
cuz hillbillies sound kul bruh

>> No.25084943

>>25084911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5lUvjvXn4E

>> No.25084944

>>25084908
>I want to be Japanese.

looooooooool
>>25055899

>> No.25084945

>>25084908
based

>> No.25084965

>>25084908
just cried

>> No.25084980

Honestly if you don't understand young matto's sunao kimochi you don't belong in this thread

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haha

>> No.25085002

it seems that reading the squiggles with the jp rhythm helps you to understand them better.

>> No.25085031

>>25083332
yeah pretty much this. keep talking shit about matt tohugh

>> No.25085033

>>25084908
>I have happy memories like no other.
wat???? he literally just did anki reps at home and locked himself in the bathroom at school, then left shorty after school began because it was so painful

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god damn how did this guy ever make it???
i'm thinking literally anyone has a higher potential than matt but matt has just been at it 5-10x longer than any of us

>> No.25085175

sometimes i find japanese constructions kinda childish. especially the whole quoting thing.

>> No.25085176

>>25085110
haha wait what, matt did rtk2? isnt that where you learn english stories for remembering onyomi and kunyomi reading? fucken autism

>> No.25085211

i make people laugh effortlessly but i'm a virgin.

>> No.25085220

>>25085126
If anything there's an implication he'd be laughing if the other posts were "fun enough" (not that I expect you to know the meaning of "but"), an implication much more real and apparent than the shit you're pulling up from retarded esl grammar books

>> No.25085223

moogy
>forced himself to watch anime raw with no subs
>never used anki, nor any tools like yomichan
>never did rtk, just learned through vocab
>learned japanese faster than matt and pretty much anyone here despite not having 1/2 the tools we have now

>> No.25085244

nukemarine
>never read anything in japanese
>used anki extensively to do core10k, made his own decks for it
>went thorugh all of rtk, contributed stories to koohi for others
>never learned japanese even after 30 years of living in japan with a japanese wife

>> No.25085246

>>25085220
i was just kidding about the read more comment it might be more of a lack of social encounters being the reason you dont get it

>> No.25085353

>>25085278
i think being funny is more like 1 part of the package for being a fun person overall. like maybe you can be a fun person without any ability for humor at all but you would have to make up for it a lot in other areas

>> No.25085356

yea id say your nip game is pretty strong if you can make a jp version of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9PDysXoJjY

>> No.25085427

>>25085410
? Both the reading and the meaning are straightforward

>> No.25085429

wotd: 猥褻

>> No.25085447

>>25085427
>reading
that's like your opinion... man...

>> No.25085451

The real question is did you understand this https://streamable.com/1o2c2f

>> No.25085460

>>25085429
are the wodt getting easier or am i getting better

>> No.25085462

>>25085447
how else would you read it?

>> No.25085469

>>25085451
yes

>> No.25085474

>>25085460
former

>> No.25085518

>>25085451
not quite

>> No.25085596

>>25085353
that's literally what the post says?? do you know what subsume means?

>> No.25085731

>>25085596
yeah i didnt really have a problem with that part more with the part that says
>when a girl says that she means you werent even fun, let alone funny
which makes them seem like more of a separated thing. if you imagine the date example again her friends might ask her "why wasnt he funny" and she might list "he didnt tell any jokes" as one of the reasons. so i dont know why they thought i was original saying something "the other way around" from what they were saying

>> No.25085735

>>25085697
Item Weight 1.3 pounds
Paperback 368 pages

oofsugiru

>> No.25085741

>>25085697
have japanese students tried reading more and watching raw anime

>> No.25085754

>>25085731
whoops i meant *"why he wasnt fun"

>> No.25085767

>>25085735
animoids quaking in their boots

>> No.25085776

>>25085576
that guy isn't me. i was thinking of gehanshin, yes

>> No.25085790

>>25085776
yea im thinking clench

>> No.25085791

wotd: 包茎

>> No.25085869

D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-DABBING ON DJT SHITTERS AND RUNTS

GET AIDS UP UR FUCKING CUNTS

>> No.25086008

>>25085969
make mnemonics around a shoe, a pack of big chew, and a jew

>> No.25086030

>>25086008
Will try, thanks

>> No.25086072

>>25085731
>which makes them seem like more of a separated thing
this is the second time you've made a blunder a native would never make (at least a sane one)
what you're quoting is saying not even the minimum standard of being fun was reached, implying that being funny would mean you're fun among other things

You don't even know basic english grammar

>> No.25086111

>>25086096
no he's not lol

>> No.25086143

wtf why does he drink water out of a bucket

>> No.25086164

HE'S EXPLAINING IT BRO

>> No.25086165

>>25086143
2 liters of cum a day

>> No.25086168

jamal's in the thread alright bros let's talk about matt that annoys jamal so much

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>> No.25086197

USE MNEMONICS FOR KANJI
ANTIRTKers BTFO'D

>> No.25086202

the comments make me cringe

>> No.25086219

someone ask him when he's going to take kanken 1

>> No.25086235 [DELETED] 

SOMEONE DONATE TO IHM AND TELL HIM TO COME ON DJT

>> No.25086250

holy shit someone donated him 60 usd

>> No.25086287

he's already made $120 in donations just talking about nothing....

>> No.25086320

why does he ramble on tangents so much

>> No.25086321

>>25086287
because those people appreciate his work up to this point

>> No.25086352

just noticed matt didnt start reading tae kim's guide until he was already 4 months into ajatt and done with rtk
lol

>> No.25086353

>>25086334
really hated the voice of that first shirofue cunt at the second level of the abyss

>> No.25086425

wtf he just shat on the norwegian krone

>> No.25086441

high quality vocab card

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>>25086264
>mouse
does it look like this?

>> No.25086471

pay up goy

https://streamable.com/2278qy

>> No.25086482

https://streamable.com/fcqieh

cringe cards! lmfao

>> No.25086483

Matt is Jewish just like every single evil person in history.

>> No.25086495

is this the end for djt

>> No.25086502

damn i cant believe matt used to seem like a trustworthy person

>> No.25086520

can't fucking stand mary shitting on matt when matt's the successful japanese guru and mary is some shit for brains with some shitty discord server

>> No.25086538

"i actually still have the manga wall. it's right over there"

https://streamable.com/x0vaf

>> No.25086542

>>25086495
yes everyone pack up its time to go home shows over

>> No.25086579

>>25086566
discounting time i spend alt-tabbed, probably 4 hours a day, aka 28 hours a week.

>> No.25086582

>>25086566
its hard to say because i just alt tab into the thread, read the new posts and alt tab out which takes a minute or two at most. but im at my pc all day and the tab is open all day except when im consooming

>> No.25086585

>>25086566
40hrs

>> No.25086605

>what are your thoughts on having foreskin?
>i think it's haram and that you should cut it off.

>> No.25086613

>>25086589
you welcome bro

>> No.25086655

>what are your thoughts on impressionism?
>sounds like a shabby ripoff of immersionism

>> No.25086661

laughing at you retards watching his stream especially the guys that dislike him but still watch lmao dumb fucking marks

>> No.25086680

>what are your thoughts on sentence cards?
>i think you should do sentence cards instead

>> No.25086696

>2hours of anki a day
how do anki drones not kill themselves holy fuck

>> No.25086701

cure dolly btfo

>> No.25086704

CUREDOLLY BTFO'D

>> No.25086712

ask matt if he eats paella and risotto with chopsticks

>> No.25086714

OH NO NO NO NO NO

>> No.25086715

>10hrs of immersion a day
lmfao fucking neets

>> No.25086720

>i havent watched curedolly
>here is my opinion on curedolly

>> No.25086728

>matt doesn't know cure dolly just paraphrases jay rubin

>> No.25086733

>>25086720
he literally did and she said すげえ is kansaiben lol

>> No.25086735

so when will we design a new computer that isn't based on the von neumann model? seems like moore's law is finally dying soon.

>> No.25086748

>Who's Japanese is better; You, Dogen, The Anime Man(Joey), or Filthy Frank
damn he really went there

>> No.25086755

>>25086748
the right answer is ciaran

>> No.25086783

>>25086772
the point is he's so fucking smug about all these little things which makes him really punchable

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love how mad he makes djters

>> No.25086817

has matt ever finished a single eroge?
probably not i imagine

>> No.25086818

>yea i'd learn spanish so i can tell my neighbors to shut up
lol

>> No.25086825

>>25086801
i can just feel the merchantyness on his face.

>> No.25086832

https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattbonder
https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattbonder
https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattbonder

it's here bros!

>> No.25086835

https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattbonder
he just dropped this in the comments bros

>> No.25086841

>>25086818
what kind of job does he even hold that he lives in such a shit hole?

>> No.25086847

>Completed: 201
LMAO i have watched 3x as much as matt

>> No.25086853

wtf djpt is fucking hivemind

>> No.25086865

>>25086841
he said he lives off donations and patreon dude

>> No.25086872

>i dont view the point of language learning to become a native speaker
>>25084908
lmfao

>> No.25086877

>>25086832
>https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mattbonder
>hs dxd: 4/10
guess mr bonder doesnt like big bon'd girls that much
what a homo

>> No.25086913

>>25086887
misread pennies as penises

>> No.25086918

theres no way someone with such shit fucking taste could ever give good jp advice

>> No.25086924

>kodensha

>> No.25086940

>>25086906
he went there for a semester in high school but came back early after he ended up not socializing with anybody during lunchtime and watching pokemon in the toilet stall

>> No.25086954

>>25086940
lmfao
but i thought japs loved white americans? did he get bullied or something or did they just ignore him

>> No.25086983

heh he is dating a japanese girl what now

>> No.25086984

DATING A JAPANESE GIRL CONFIRMED

BURN THE RICE PAY THE PRICE

>> No.25086991

>>25086983
>>25086984
>she doesnt even know english
how did he do it

>> No.25086996

https://streamable.com/3maise

bruh

>> No.25087001

>>25086984
It's cook the rice pay the price you moron.

>> No.25087003

>i'm short
LMFAOOO

>> No.25087004

>>25086847
yet he's 10 times better than u haha

>> No.25087015

>>25086996
matt's officially a player. literally a few months ago he talked about having recently broken up with a japanese girl, and he had referenced seeing her months before that too.

my god this dude slays. no surprise though. he's pretty.

>> No.25087021

LOL he really stole quizs setup hahaha

>> No.25087027

>>25087015
he just said in the stream it's the same girl and they broke up for a day

>> No.25087034

>>25087027
oh ok well i wonder how hot she is i wanna see a pic. if she has big tits i'd be even more jealous

>> No.25087036

ohononononon next video he is animeca- i mean mattcards hahahaha

>> No.25087051

>>25087036
>>25087021
rip the animecards website will be obsolete

>> No.25087072

>>25087021
no he didn't he uses the mia dictionary addon. that's a novel improvement over quizshitter's sharex-only setup.

>> No.25087241

>>25087034
10 bucks to whoever can find it

>> No.25087297

https://streamable.com/vqwkmk

lol matt btfo you weebs so hard

>> No.25087345

i'm not feeling it anymore

>> No.25087400

matt streams and djt dies

>> No.25087408

>>25087400
what does it mean

>> No.25087425

>>25087408
it means we are all watching him

>> No.25087430

someone said that a lot of the monogatari dialogue is puns and puns are the lowest form of humor and they actually piss me off when i hear dumb western cunts saying them so im wondering if monogatari would suck just cause of that

>> No.25087456

>>25087430
i first watched monogatari eng subbed for the plot
theres a lot of dialogue sure like monogatari s2 has some episodes that is talking non stop but its not a big thing

>> No.25087468

i think djpt makes me gay

>> No.25087479

>>25087456
ok what does that have to do with what i said though

>> No.25087490

>>25087430
It is. And it's easy to make puns in japanese because the language has a lot of homophones

>> No.25087495

>>25087479
if you care so much about dialogue maybe you should watch other people talking then

>> No.25087511

>>25087495
you're pretty dense arent u

>> No.25087532

>>25076516
as for me, you gay

>> No.25087550

>>25087511
the story is very interesting and since you watch it in a different order its confusing and mysterious which makes you want to binge watch
if some silly jokes in dialogue that have nothing to do with the plot trigger you then maybe you should get checked for autism

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>>25087468
>>25087532

>> No.25087579

im abt to read naoki urasawa's meisaku "monster," heard it's kind of good...

>> No.25087585

>>25087579
watch manben shits so good but yeah monsters good too

>> No.25087589

>>25087579
upvoted

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>>25087034
Is this thread pure ironic cringe (which is in fact turbo cringe), or are you all creeps (get the fuck away from me murderer in the making)?

>> No.25087607

>>25087595
lurk more before posting tourist

>> No.25087613

>>25087585
i watched the episode of manben back when it came out and remember thinking "christ that's good i fucking love this show" but the only urasawa manga i read was 20th century boys, which was also fantastic

>> No.25087621

>>25087595
youre lucky i dont know where you live or youd be getting raped and choked rn

>> No.25087630

you guys do donate to matt right

>> No.25087652

knowing that i will never be able to live out my violent fantasies toward people itt makes me want to quit the thread

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>>25087621

>> No.25087665

>>25087630
i donate to jamal and think abt him whilej erking off

>> No.25087666

>>25087595
fuck this guy >>25087607 keep posting these retards think this is an imageboard not a textboard

>> No.25087688

>>25087666
*keep forgetting fuck text sucks

>> No.25087705

matt is a pauser
the matter is settled

>> No.25087725

lost more respect for djt in this 1 thread than ever before

>> No.25087745

>>25087725
why though

>> No.25087748

>>25087705
>MATTer
lol

>> No.25087756

>>25087745
i thought there were less people hanging off matts balls but it seems its the entire thread except me

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>> No.25087789

fuck you im not supposed to fap today

>> No.25087813

>>25087756
i tried to fight mattposters like 2 yrs ago and it didn't work

>> No.25087823

fuck the naysayers, i honestly respect matto

>> No.25087832

>>25087756
are you blind

>> No.25087844

>>25071302
didnt work

>> No.25087857

>>25087832
im not talking about the sycophants though i hate them the most, im talking about how he's the main topic of discussion for this thread and has been for a while. think im done tbqh, lets see how long i last without coming here.

>> No.25087956

>>25087917
no but i wish i did

>> No.25087987

>>25087968
it doesnt matter if hes the topic of discussion when everyones shitting on him shitbrain

>> No.25088011

>>25087987
yeah it does you stupid fucking cockroach

>> No.25088025

fuck.. i've neglected my anki duties today

>> No.25088074

>>25087857
lol are you fucking retarded or just new? matt has at various points been the main subject of conversation here.

>> No.25088106

>>25088011
youre the one who's obsessed with him, like a feral sewer rat infatuated with sludge

>> No.25088217

>>25087857
i instinticvely hovered over sycophants and held shift in an attempt to look it up
yomichan is giving me bad habits

>> No.25088258

>>25087857
lol kys turdbrain you're irredeemably stupid

>> No.25088294

>>25088217
maybe try doing some english decks to alleviate that esl

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>> No.25088312

>>25087857
lol ing extremely hard at all the people responding to this post SUPER mad saying "noooo this thread should be about matt"
considering the low number of ips we generally get per thread it's believable that at least 4 or 5 regulars are genuine matt shills and yeah u can say "nooo haha we just shit on him" but if you never shut the fuck up about his shit then people will eventually look at it

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>> No.25088460

>>25088312
no one said that retard
im not going to hold back shitting on some eceleb just to "protect" fresh chumps who're dumb enough that they'd start following him just because they saw his name get thrown around on deejaytee

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ya ok but would you waifu a moth tho?

>> No.25088517

>>25088460
if you literally never shut the fuck up about matt you're a mattfag no ifs and or buts

>> No.25088520

>>25088043
i usually spend ~1 hour

>> No.25088530

proud mattfag here

>> No.25088542

you know i never thought about it that way but if i had to talk in front of as many people as in this thread id probably lose it

>> No.25088611

found a basedの today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm_rquCWmf4&list=PL-aN2uWkGPHfgWSFw3IQCsFyE9VpxVcGs

>> No.25088779

>>25088676
east asians have a big problem with being bugs. but on the positive side it's better than white leftists.

>> No.25088785

>>25088728
fuck you

>> No.25088814

>>25087550
the problem is that monogatari is half twisted necks/weird camera angles and half shitty jokes/witticisms.
it's not even jokes about something specific or social commentary unlike szs and pani poni dash.

>> No.25088900

>studied 308 cards in 1.08 hours
done

>> No.25088940

>>25088900
and remembered nothing lmao good job

>> No.25088946

>>25088873
just read the comments dude it's all old boomers reminiscing about their 小学生 days i dont make the rules

you can watch this version they probably speak more clearly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7KaVl5yV-c&list=PL3mV6Qzlc-kLAwQ6OgNXprgLI1UMYwpqj

>> No.25088969

matt said he's interviewing stevij (xp bar guy) next because he "got fluent in 18 months and he's the best mia youtuber" he's seen except for himself

>> No.25089010

>>25088969
he probably just wanted to make another shitty mia interview video and is disappointed with how bad anime godfather and david turned out

>> No.25089099

>>25088969
sauce?

>> No.25089140

there's at least one alternate universe where both anime godfather and calvin made it by reading moege and harem lns.

>> No.25089340

fuck doraemon and fuck seaniggers into doraemon

>> No.25089423

matts most likely not into fiction for fiction's sake at all.

>> No.25089432

isn't it weird how most of the people that learn japanese aren't really that much into anime? most posters itt are like that. i would more people into it to put some effort into learning the language but i guess they are inherently lazy.

>> No.25089457

>>25089262
aku no hana

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>>25089478
>fluent people
>in the discord

>> No.25089512

>598 cards to review
wew

>> No.25089539

>>25089504
i see youve never been in there

>> No.25089566

>>25089539
you need to work on your reverse psychology if you think anyones gonna fall for that lol

>> No.25089580

dont really care about language learning but dont really care about recently made anime/manga/vns either
i often watch/read stuff that are very light in terms of plot so i feel like i don't have much to talk about or even say other than "i liked this girl in this one scene".

>> No.25089612

>>25089140
we're living in that universe they're just deep trolling or did you think "xiaovin" was 100% genuine and unironic

>> No.25089640

>>25089432
im not much into anime because i don't have the patience to watch 25 minutes of

>> No.25089641

>>25089539
moe shits on all of them regardless

>> No.25089645

theres also a 世界線 where nuke is streaming eroges

>> No.25089651

>>25089580
>"i liked this girl in this one scene"
that's one of the most important factors of enjoyment

>> No.25089664

>>25089640
padding a single chapter of manga out with shitty voice acting. i simply enjoy manga eroge lns and rpg maker games like an adult

>> No.25089684

>>25089641
moetard has n100 level nihongo and couldn't read his way out of a paper bag

>> No.25089711

>>25089566
im just saying if you'd have been in there you'd see its full of such people. theres even a guy who studies law at university in japan you kinda have to be fluent for that

>> No.25089722

>>25089684
>>25089711
samefag

>> No.25089735

>>25089432
anime world building is crashes and burns every time so i cant invest in it anymore
im an isekai junkie so i need my good fix and only novels can fill that since they pander to my self insert fantasy with their best efforts
anime always does some contrived bullshit that destroys the worldbuilding
at least mia was somewhat good

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>>25089664
speaking of rpgm games i might be late to the party on deep sea prisoner's work but oh well. you fuckers need to play them too btw see how easy it is to read go try it now now now now now

>> No.25090005

>>25089956

what the fuck is rpg maker, are you really playing games that arent professionally made

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>>25090005
that's correct anon, using the power of this simple video game creation software even you, me, or our friends in japan can make simple video game experiences to relate tales of philosophy and edgy bullshit that would never make it past a real publisher. i highly recommend trying some sometime

>> No.25090142

>>25090067
you know what im about to say

>> No.25090168

>>25090138
acquired

>> No.25090210

>>25090142
there's no such thing as something that isn't a waste of time, all things are inherently pointless, we didn't exist from the creation of the universe up until the moment we were born, and we will cease to exist after only 60 or so years for the rest of eternity too, for that one tiny blip we should at least be able to enjoy ourselves a little without having to manically chase something we don't even really need and can't take with us.

lighten up and play a video game, anon.

>> No.25090239

Oh god I'm so bad at learning new vocabulary. I just started the 2k anki deck and I can barely remember any numbers. I really didn't think I would be this bad.

>> No.25090244

>>25090210
yeah but how many words do you know

>> No.25090283

at least post new caps

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>>25090244
enough to get through easy scenes and not enough to get through hard scenes without a dictionary. it's an amount that im not entirely satisfied with but if i had to choose between anki + big vocab or enjoying myself + smaller vocab i'll pick the latter

>>25090283
are you a bad enough dude to pull the trigger

>> No.25090390

>>25090332
what race are you

>> No.25090398

>>25088946
is that chinese? looks dubbed

>> No.25090579

>>25090560
>carefully tell me about it
lol i think you might need a 3k for english first

>> No.25090599

>>25090570
simpley write it in english and then have your nihonjin friend translate it for you and be like "yea thx but let me choose the pronouns we english speakers get excited about that" and make all the characters use おいら

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mfw i see anki drones suffering as they should be

>> No.25090692

>>25090660
50%

>> No.25090706

>>25090686
how come there isn't any white jav then? it's 95% jap on jap, and 5% nigger rape. literally 0 white guys. hmm...

>> No.25090743

>>25090672
>having no foresight or contingency
typical ゲーaddict

>> No.25090747

fuck i really wish i didn't machine translate all those vns as a teenager when i was a hikkineet now im a 社会人 and have no time to input

>> No.25090789

>>25090721
yes, so the only foreigners they have in their porn is bbc

>> No.25090793

>>25090743
the only foresight and contingency i had was "man if i get born i'm gonna have to live, sure hope that doesn't happen" and look where we are now anon

but yknow, if you make an rpg maker game and up it to the internet, you'll never truly die. you know what to do

>> No.25090805

>>25090660
i dont get it
is it a long distance relationship
he says hes not sure whether he will go to japan implying that shes in america and cant speak english
just what is this gaijin power i dont get it is japanese really capable of doing such things

>> No.25090811

i can only imagine a message board in mexico or something discussing how they are all going to come to america and fuck white girls because white girls love spanish dick so much

like imagine actually reading something like that and realize that is how pathetic you guy sound right now

>> No.25090815

>>25090757
yeah i bet she doesnt find japanese men attractive at all and never gets horny lol
im also sure shes a virgin amirite
yeah dont worry shes not gonna fuck anyone because east asians have souls and shit
she is also japanese which means human nature doesnt apply to her
but if it was a white girl in america in a online relationship she would totally be cheating on him haha

>> No.25090857

stfu

>> No.25090861

>>25090607
>suffering
i would have given up by now if it weren't for anki

>> No.25090876

>>25090789
yea i guess the guys get off on that. what does that have to do with what i said

>>25090815
>yeah i bet she doesnt find japanese men attractive at all and never gets horny lol
she does it's just that she'd have to find a japanese guy interested in her who looks significantly better or is more wealthy than matt, because white guys are more desirable all else equal.
>yeah dont worry shes not gonna fuck anyone
probably not. they have lower sex drives than other races.
>because east asians have souls and shit
on the contrary they're soulless bugs.
>but if it was a white girl in america in a online relationship she would totally be cheating on him haha
probably not. matt's a smart, good looking, and ambitious guy.

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>>25090811
no man you dont get i have never spoken to a woman in my own country but when i go to japan ill be swimming in pususy hehe

>> No.25090885

you cant use philosophical concepts to determine the best way for you to learn japanese, it just doesnt work

>> No.25090890

>>25090857
id literally rather die

>> No.25090906

>>25090793
how pathetic, keep that flimsy pseudphil shit to yourself
youre just a fucking pussy dawdling around and wasting away chasing pipe dreams, what you need is a good ass whooping and to be put into shape

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>>25090811
>implying

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itt

>> No.25090950

>>25090881
woah i didn't realize americans were so chaste compared to japs

>> No.25090960

>>25090881
wtf i thought the japs were pure my world is falling apart

>> No.25090985

>>25090876
lol dude you really have never been in a relationship huh
stop trying to find logic where there isnt plenty of people cheat on their partners with signficantly uglier people for no reason
hell they do it even when they actually live in the same city let alone when theyre separated by a shitmegaton of water lol
asian women are also compulsive liars and feel no guilty whatsoever so if she feels like fucking she will do it. and guess what, sex isnt really a big deal for most people so it might be like changing clothes for her and she wont even count it as cheating.

>> No.25090990

>>25090960
if you look at measures of actual behaviors like cheating rates, divorce rates, etc. rather than surveys asking them about what they think is ethical then they're very "pure".

>> No.25090992

>>25090906
no idea what your prob is dude but i'll flip you like an omelette baby boy don't test me

>> No.25091089

>>25091046
this is unfortunately true
nips seem "cultured" but thats really just because of a strong aversion to being socially stigmatized (and jp society does that), they dont really have any intrinsic morality or principles

>> No.25091092

>>25091030
>americans are obviously more likely to be adulterous
this shows you literally have no idea about japanese culture whatsoever
so many japanese marriages end up with both parties cheating on each other every other night, knowing the others are doing it and just pretending they don't know
this is actually extremely common in japan
cheating is way more casual and almost accepted marriages grow boring
they just stay married for public image

>> No.25091127

Honestly the reason I don't want to marry a Japanese woman is because I feel like she'd cheat on me even though I'm tall and smart and considerate and have an above average sized penis

>> No.25091131

>>25091114
don't care about anecdotes and "common knowledge". japs cheat more than most westerners.

>> No.25091132

>>25091114
you need to let go of your weeaboo fantasies

>> No.25091151

>>25091114
>japs cheat less than most westerners.
lmao he actually believes this

>> No.25091153

>>25091114
one the one hand we have survey data indicating potential propensity to cheat and on the other hand we have a complete asspulled conjecture
hmm yea i think i know with whom the burden of proof lies

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itt

>> No.25091155

if anime taught me anything is that being a virgin in japan is something made fun of a lot, so of course they would like to not be a virgin

virginity isn't cherished as much in japan as in other places only on idol-sans by otaku neets

chastity before marriage is a christian/western phenomenon is it not?

>> No.25091165

>literally 50% of javs are ntr
>the other 50% are "i'm so innocent, jk i'm actually just super horny dame dame ikuuuu"
japanese don't cheat guys wtf they are pure

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>>25091154
itt

>> No.25091195

>>25091183
>extramarital sex
premarital*

>> No.25091200

>>25091127
i literally wouldnt care if my wife or girlfriend cheated on me

>> No.25091202

>>25091183
>there is actual data of cheating rates by country and western countries beat out japan.
every time someone cheats they go fill out an online survey and inform the govt so we can know which country has the most cheaters. jsyk i fucked 300000 different girls while dating someone's mom in japan so the data may be skewed

>> No.25091212

>>25091155
lmao its not because of 童貞 stigma or anything its just that in their mind if they arent shamed for it by other people then it isnt wrong
its also what let the imperial army to go on and do shit like nanking by taking 18yos nips off the streets and (literally) beating into them a "god crusade" and holier than thou powertripping attitude

>> No.25091214

>>25091114
lol

>> No.25091216

>>25091202
self report surveys are obviously flawed it's just that the survey cited earlier suffers from the same issues and isn't even directly relevant to the topic lol

>> No.25091227

>>25091170
i just want you to stop posting about half assing shit because it pisses the living fuck out of me

>> No.25091244

>>25091183
>no you don't
kys you retarded faggot you are in no position to call anyone anything without posting your evidence now spit out the links or neck yourself

>> No.25091252

the way that it works in japan is this:

there is 20% of the population that are completely shunned from social interaction and die virgins

the other 80% go to goukon every night and fuck each other, but act professional during the day

you guys literally don't know anything about japanese culture, you only know stuff from anime

spoiler, anime and otaku media is aimed at the 20%

>> No.25091260

yall need help

>> No.25091263

>>25091252
no one cares about your anecdotes dude you're no better than anyone basing their understanding off cartoons

>> No.25091293

>>25091263
you think its more plausible that japan works like cartoons though? even if what he says is not true it has a higher probability of being right than japanese people for some reason being pure and not like humans in every other single country in the world including the one you live in where you can see by yourself lol

>> No.25091300

>>25091183
>nooooo u stupid ur data bad but me gud cuz me say so!!!
lol what a hissy fitting baboon, you want to cry?

>> No.25091301 [DELETED] 

>>25091252
spoiler im an otaku and im gonna fuck the shit out of hot sluts when i go to japan

>> No.25091306

>>25091293
>you think its more plausible that japan works like cartoons though?
in the same way i find it plausible that people can breathe irl just like cartoon characters are able to breathe? yea, not that the latter influences my understanding of the former.

>> No.25091309

>>25091227
what am i half-assing, anon? literally my post can be boiled down to 強く生きて and i only said any of that because another anon said my post made him think about death, which upset him.

>> No.25091316

>>25091263
i'm not basing anything off cartoons, that is why i'm more knowledgeable.

the problem is the media people consume here is literally made for the 20% autistic shunned part of the population

either you're in or you're out in japanese culture, and if you're out it's almost impossible to get back in, this is the crowd anime is made for, the outsiders

if you don't believe just look up 合コン culture in japan, there are literally set rules for this sort of thing, it is an entire subculture of japan, one that is not spoken about

it is also required you participate in these things or you will get fired and blacklisted from the company or business.

look up places like juliana's and tell me japs don't fuck around every night

>> No.25091329 [DELETED] 

yep, coming here was a mistake. i was going to say something interesting but then i realized that you don't deserve it.

>> No.25091342

>>25091316
>i'm not basing anything off cartoons
you're still basing your understanding off anecdotes which is why your perspective is boring and you should stop posting about it. idk what you're rambling about otaku being outsiders like that has anything to do with what i said

>> No.25091347

>>25091342
post your stats i'm waiting

>> No.25091370

>>25091353
>>25091357
>>25091329
do I need to go on, clenchoid? I guess you're dizzy by now. "How could the country I adored for most of my adult life be such a backwater shithole?" I hear you squeal in disbelief. I know you weren't ready for this. But reality doesn't care about your feelings. I promise, you will be better off knowing this a few years down the road.

>> No.25091387

>>25091370
lmfao

>> No.25091401

>>25091374
>burden of proof
not a real thing

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>>25091347
here
>>25091374
you do realize if two parties are asserting something as fact and there are no priors lending more credence to one over the other then they're both obliged in some meaningless abstract sense (<-don't ignore this part as it's crucial) to provide evidence right

>> No.25091410

>>25091401
This, just say shit and pretend that it's fact. No need to back it up.

>> No.25091418

>>25091405
take your pills mathschizo

>> No.25091419

>>25091401
based

>> No.25091427

>>25091410
stfu retard. "burden of proof" bs was invented so people could pretend only one side has to back shit up

>> No.25091436

words to google if you want to understand standard nightlife of japanese normies:
合コン・コンパ
飲み会
居酒屋
ハシゴ

it is a cultural thing with set rules and dates back hundreds of years. it has evolved into an almost required thing to do almost every night for a "businessman" in japan. you literally get drunk with your co-workers and sleep around. it is not uncommon to find japanese people passed out on the street drunk and they just let them sleep there. you guys only know of anime and nothing about actual japanese culture.

>> No.25091442

>>25091427
so no proof lmao

>> No.25091443

>>25091436
just like my ntr doujins, so hot

>> No.25091455

>>25091443
unironically yes. literally look at any ntr jav or doujin that's based on adults and it's always these parties where the wife gets drunk and fucks around.

>> No.25091456

>>25091442
nah i dont know what you guys are arguing about

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>>25091370
>

>> No.25091459

>>25091436
>generalizing 100+ million people for the sake of shitposting in a general about learning a language that 99% of the people here only want to learn to consume weebshit

>> No.25091484

>>25091309
writing off working on jap by making facile and nihilistic blanket statements like "everything is a waste of time" is prime half-assing
its obviously not black and white and its fucking disingenuous to paint it like that, there are clear long term gains to putting in appropriate effort which youre admitting to not doing by making up bullshit excuses
your entire philosophical ramble was pointless and cringe simply because it was word mush, youre raping the meaning out of "waste of time" when you throw in everything

>> No.25091492 [DELETED] 

nah that high iq handsome ambitious white guy (jew) has nothing to worry about if anything it's the needy overly attached jap girl that should be worried

>> No.25091511

>>25091410
americans have this tendency of just pulling logs of excrement from their anuses and presenting them as facts. it's a really strange behavior.

>> No.25091518

>>25091405
good job parroting like a retard, too bad youre so cognitively crippled you cant do anything beyond that because
>no priors lending more credence to one over the other
is decidedly not the case here you blind cunt

>> No.25091533

>>25091518
>parroting
wtf
>is decidedly not the case here you blind cunt
true the priors favor me since i pointed out how japs are bug people with a low sex drive

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>> No.25091603

>>25091533
listen up moron a point backed by you is as worthless as a a pile of horseshit if you cant externally support it
it doesnt matter how weak you think the countering evidence is because the simple matter there is some counter evidence at all and there is nothing on your end

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>> No.25091632 [DELETED] 

>>25091603
>it doesnt matter how weak you think the countering evidence is because the simple matter there is some counter evidence at all and there is nothing on your end
see now this reasoning makes absolutely no sense. if i said "crickets are banana because this chart indicates an increase in temperature over the past decade" and someone responded "no", then my point isn't better just because i'm providing data. my data is worthless. likewise for the survey that dweeb posted earlier haha

>>25091618
damn look at all those horny japs itching to cheat

>> No.25091646

>>25091533
/pol/tard detected. go spread your propaganda elsewhere

>> No.25091664

>>25091646
i don't browse there. also at first i was accused of being a weeb with an angelic view of japs and now apparently i'm a /pol/tard.

>> No.25091665 [DELETED] 

>>25091632
the 18-21 girls obviously lied
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jun/15/tokyo-pink-bus-campaign-seeks-to-protect-schoolgirls-from-escort-scouts-jk-business
jk prostitution is so common there that shit like this happens lol

>> No.25091672 [DELETED] 

damn diving right back into anecdotes^

>> No.25091676 [DELETED] 

whether they cheat or not, one thing we should be able to all agree on is the white guy thing is a complete myth. if they're going exotic they're going black. if they're going serious, they're going jap. white people really don't fit in anywhere. they're just seen as the beta version of niggers from their perspective.

>> No.25091726 [DELETED] 

>>25091676
you gotta go by data man you can't rely on this weird first principle reasoning when you have no evidence for them. start with the fact that asian women go crazy over white guys in the west as evidenced by interracial marriage rates and the success of white men among all racial groups on dating apps.

>>25091697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edt0MNT6fNE

>> No.25091742 [DELETED] 

>>25091726
>go by the data man
>posts anecdotes with no sources

>> No.25091751 [DELETED] 

>>25091742
i didn't post anecdotes i made assertions about reality based on data that i didn't link. esl?

>> No.25091767 [DELETED] 

>>25091751
anecdote andy strikes again

>> No.25091798 [DELETED] 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S ONLY AN ANECDOTE WHEN YOU DO IT

>> No.25091799 [DELETED] 

>>25091776
bro the article is posted in 2019 and it has images of 渡辺麻友 from akb48 lmao. these people don't know anything about japan. they are biased and trying to sell a narrative, because no one is going to ever fact check this shit anyway. post a fucking 2ch thread if you want, i don't care, but not a news post from the guardian. yikes.

>> No.25091813 [DELETED] 

>>25091767
hm not sure if you're trolling or just esl. but just so you're aware this is literally making an argument based off anecdote:
>>25091665

and this isn't:
>>25091726
it's making a claim based on data that wasn't linked. you can criticize that behavior for other reasons but it is fundamentally not anecdotal.

>> No.25091814

we can all agree that otaku culture is based tho right

>> No.25091816

>>25091814
based on fiction, yes we can all agree

>> No.25091845 [DELETED] 

this thread is literally like chinese posters who have only ever lived in china linking chinese articles and arguing about what life is like in america lmao

>> No.25091851 [DELETED] 

>>25091845
special pleading
clench

>> No.25091855

>>25091814
no fuck otaku and fuck howard. howard would hate my man matt just cuz matt is jewish

>>25091818
>burden of proof implicitly relies on a status quo
wait what's the status quo here exactly
>gesticulating
rofl cringe
wait sorry
https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/cringe
quail

>> No.25091857 [DELETED] 

>>25091851
you probably just broke one of these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

stay mad i win

>> No.25091867

>>25091855
howard doesnt hate matt though and matt is interested in his content lol

>> No.25091870

>>25091867
>and matt is interested in his content lol
when did this happen

>> No.25091876

>>25091855
>nooo u cant use words i dont get u me you must be using a thezaruss!!!

>> No.25091878

>>25091870
matt and howard had like an 1+ hour conversation in the voice chat on the djt discord you missed it, few weeks ago

>> No.25091887

>>25091878
did anyone record it?

>> No.25091897

>>25091876
i don't think you're necessarily using a thesaurus i'm just implying that you're using inappropriate cringe wording probably because i ran over all of you in that argument lol

>> No.25091900

>>25091887
no clue but if someone did i dont think theyve posted it anywhere. there was like 20 people listening btw

>> No.25091923 [DELETED] 

>>25091799
if you are so desperate to defend japan because you're a greasy weeaboo then its not worth discussing with u.
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO POST SOURCES!
you have never seen a vagina or proof that they exist but you know they do. what other developed country is known for high school whore prostitution? everything on the internet about it is trying to sell a narrative? lol
i really want to find one of you weeabos outside so i can break your fucking bones with a nunchaku, skin your back with a katana and pour onions sauce on it

>> No.25091934 [DELETED] 

>>25091923
Philippines or any other 3rd world country.

>> No.25091943 [DELETED] 

>>25091934
>developed

>> No.25091947

>>25091926
>30,000 is obscure
whats the frequency of the word cringe

>> No.25091949

>>25091911
i was thinking the same thing here, i have watched 3 anime episodes here and i come back and these dweebs are going on about the same shit and they still have the balls to make fun of my anki usage

>> No.25091957 [DELETED] 

>>25091943
most developed countries have laws against that so none

>> No.25091960

>>25091947
>30,000 is obscure
well yea definitely can be

>> No.25091966

>>25091926
he said ordinary, not common
meaning everyone knows the word even if it isnt said much
also native english speakers know the names of dinosaurs

>> No.25091982

>>25091897
I am entirely and unabashedly consistent in my word choice, you're fucking conceited if you think I'd even be slightly conscious of how a fly like you would perceive my post

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using your own website, here is a list of words that are in the 30,000 range lmao

super cringe just stop posting

>> No.25092000 [DELETED] 

>>25091949
how about i penetrate your anus with my arm, grab some shit from your intestines then crack your skull open with a sledgehammer and using the shit write kanji directly on your brain to help you memorize them

>> No.25092008

Only speak the language of a lettuce

>> No.25092013

>and now esls try to teach natives what sounds natural
lmao you idiots just can't stop yourself from asserting asspulled shit now can you

>> No.25092023

>>25091986
shut the fuck up and take some english lessons retard

>> No.25092024

>>25091966
>he said ordinary, not common
yea doesn't make a difference in this case
>also native english speakers know the names of dinosaurs
they're very exciting though
>>25091982
nah i think the safer assumption is you got btfo hard so you used an uncommon word in overcompensation lol
>>25091986
this is only a critique of frequency rankings breaking down that far out because of the corpus or other aspect of analysis, not that gesticulate is a common word, which it isn't. idk why people have to troll like this

>> No.25092088

>>25092048
this dude gets bullied because he sucks at japanese and has to cope by talking shit about esls
情けない

>> No.25092106

>>25092024
you singled that one word out cuz ur youre a filthy esl with a totally unbalanced vocab lol fucken embarrassing

>> No.25092118

damn spics sure are good at gymnastics im impressed

>> No.25092122

>>25092106
you will never be able to speak japanese as well as an esl speaks english lol

>> No.25092123

idk why people have an issue being called out for clenching. i'm clenching 24/7 in this thread because idiots come at me with bad arguments and i constantly have to piledrive them into the concrete but they just keep coming

>> No.25092149

>>25092122
better be an english mono than an 80 spanish 20 jap 0 eigo loser lol

>> No.25092159

>>25092127
if you're talking about what he said on the live stream it was already posted
>>25088969
but if you have additional information from after the stream please share!

>> No.25092162

esls are literally braindamaged
theyre immersed in english 24x7 and still cant acquire even after years

>> No.25092163

>>25091511
American here. Can confirm. I also put said excrement into my mouth and continue spouting shit.

>> No.25092170

fact: english natives are the most powerful race in the world

>> No.25092173

>>25092162
Spic here. Can confirm. I also cry in bed every night about it sucking my thumb to declench and sleep.

>> No.25092188

>>25092170
how is that a race

>> No.25092189

esls learn english even though no one wants to learn their language, and they hang out in english websites even though they could hang out with their fellow countrymen instead. its very flattering

>> No.25092191

shit looks like i missed a lot of fun

>> No.25092193

>>25092162
dude, you don't even realize that you're talking to esls most of the time. conrad wrote classics in your language and english was like his third language or something. stop, it's pathetic.

>> No.25092196

>>25092188
stfu

>> No.25092198

>>25092188
He means in the sense that fatties are basically a different species.

>> No.25092205

>>25092196
no stop saying this and be friends with me

>> No.25092212

>>25092189
i like how you avoided saying "they could hang out on websites in their own language" lol very flattering being corrected by retards yes

>> No.25092215

>>25092189
and why don't you hang out with your fellow countrymen instead of learning japanese?

>> No.25092233

>>25092215
>anyone here
>learning
lol

>> No.25092238

>>25092215
he's hanging out with his fellow countrymen rn wtf

>> No.25092244

>>25092215
this might be djt, but you're still on an *English* imageboard
better not forget that

>> No.25092253

>>25092238
i doubt it since there's only like 3 americans on /int/djt and i dont see why itd be so different here

>> No.25092256

WaniKani is 出来る

>> No.25092261

>>25092253
burgers don't wanna put up with you int scum

>> No.25092268

>>25092193
>would you look at all these outliers!! take that haha
lol

>> No.25092295

>>25092253
this thread literally dies when americans go to sleep

>> No.25092332

para qué sirve hacer tanto dolor a los otros en djt...

>> No.25092371

>>25091986
>AIDS-RELATED
is how i'd describe this thread

>> No.25092372

>all this clenching because esls can't bear the yomenai
it wouldn't be so bad if you lot just admitted you still have a ways to go and worked on improving your english on the side instead of shitflinging in denial

>> No.25092411

>>25092372
ok dude now go learn some spanish so you can tell your neighbors to shut up

>> No.25092416

>>25091986
literal 15 yo natives know these words wtf are you guys smoking

>> No.25092437

>>25092238
america is not the only country with native english speakers lmao

>> No.25092454

>>25092023
>>25092416
I don't know if you guys were misinterpreting my post, but that was my point. 30k is not obscure.

>> No.25092456

>>25092437
>why yes im frum inglund

>> No.25092480

>>25092454
>30k is not obscure
that word is proof that it is

>> No.25092493

>>25092480
aids-related?

>> No.25092559

>>25092516
What about blood pressure? Or droid? Drainpipe? FDA-Aproved? mutual fund? homeschool? wicket?

i can understand not knowing a couple of these words because they aren't in your area of reading, like mutual fund for example, but that doesn't stop a word like mutual fund being fairly common. if someone posted that here, it wouldn't make sense to get angry at them for using big words because you don't know what a mutual fund is. it's just the word you use to describe that concept.

>> No.25092564

>>25092516
are you retarded? so making obvious but infrequently used combinations of common word elements make a word exotic? so much so that you make a fool out of yourself writing cringy essays on why it shouldn't be used?

>> No.25092593 [DELETED] 

>>25092516
what kind of subhuman language do you speak? ive never seen gesticulating being used in english either but i know exactly what it means because theres a extremely similar word in my first language lol

>> No.25092596

yea, so it looks like esls are GESTICULATING hard tonight
*drops mic*

>> No.25092605

>>25092564
what they said is true though, now you're just moving the goalposts from obscure to exotic

>> No.25092614

too bad most of the natives are already asleep
i'll link this shit tomorrow lol esls better be ready for the btfo

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25092615

Here are the words that surround the word in question to give you an idea of how "obscure" it is.

>> No.25092632

>>25092127
which one is spreadsheet guy?

>> No.25092636

>>25092559
>i can understand not knowing a couple of these words because they aren't in your area of reading
there's a lot of words in the 30k+ range like that for most people. mutual fund is probably something people are likely to hear because you'd randomly catch it on the news or something. but when would you see wicket or gesticulate?

>> No.25092644

>>25092605
i just don't understand how someone can so shamelessly keep arguing even when they have their back to the fucking wall
just drop it idiot, what you're saying is genuinely so silly

>> No.25092659

>>25092615
>From Middle French gesticulation, from Latin gesticulatio
cmon dude do you speak german?

>> No.25092662

>>25092644
that was my first post in your dumb argument fuck you

>> No.25092671

>>25092636
you cant even pass mutt high school without coming across that word in some assigned eng reading
if only you retards read a little

>> No.25092675

>>25092644
no he's right. originally it was about what was uncommon, then it was about what's obscure, and now you're talking about what's exotic.

>> No.25092683

>>25092636
wicket is just a word that you're not familiar with because it's about a topic you don't know, cricket. but if you were talking about cricket you wouldn't expect someone to use a different word because it's obscure. also it's not like gesticulate even has a synonym, so what do you want him to use? just because you've happened to never come across the word (most likely you have, you just haven't acquired it for whatever reason) doesn't make it obscure.

>> No.25092707

last time i heard gesticulate it was in the contest of it being a weird word that most people dont know lol

>> No.25092711

>>25092675
incorrect. here is the original quote:
>also gesticulate is a very ordinary word esl kun
ordinary was the word used. and it is ordinary.

>> No.25092713

>>25092683
nah he was supposed to say "wave your hands around like a dumb esl because you dont know the word for it"

>> No.25092720

>>25092683
>wicket is just a word that you're not familiar with because it's about a topic you don't know, cricket
most americans aren't familiar with cricket.
>doesn't make it obscure.
it's clearly obscure though.

>> No.25092727

>>25092707
*context whoops

>> No.25092734 [DELETED] 

damn guess i should really mine this shit then
>>25091818

>> No.25092737

>>25092711
sure, change that to
>originally it was about what was ordinary, then it was about what's obscure, and now you're talking about what's exotic.
it's not at all ordinary.

>> No.25092741

>>25092720
it's not obscure, it's just about a topic you personally don't know about. is the word touchdown obscure? it is if you don't know about american football. but overall, no, not really.

>> No.25092790

>>25092768
cricket is a fairly popular sport in a big english speaking country

you're american so you wouldn't know, you're not part of that culture

it's about as obscure as "mutual fund", which if you're not part of the financial industry, might be obscure to you, but not obscure in general

>> No.25092793

>>25092768
point is no native wouldn't be familiar with the word or where its used

>> No.25092803

>>25092790
>but not obscure in general
this is the part where you're losing me. yes it would be "obscure in general" if enough people are not familiar with that context.

>> No.25092817

>>25092803
i'm not disagreeing with that point. i'm disagreeing with applying that premise to the words mentioned here.

>> No.25092822

>>25092803
>>25092793
>>25092790
>>25092768
>>25092761
post your heights

>> No.25092821

>>25092793
you think the average native knows what gesticulate means? on that note it'd be interesting to see how common gesticulate is on 4chan.

>> No.25092835

>>25092822
176cm

>> No.25092846

why are esls surprised that natives actually know english

>> No.25092861

i really dont get why esls are nitpicking on gesticulate
what about elude? drivel? insulated? credence? to me they're as ordinary as gesticulate
the post isnt entry tier english but it isnt wankery tier either, just a bit of polished stuff
if this is "obscure" to you you probably cant even read a decent news article lmao

>> No.25092877

>>25092861
>elude? drivel? insulated? credence?
way more common than gesticulate.

>> No.25092884

>>25092861
native here i think gesticulate is less ordinary than those other words

>> No.25092889

this discussion reeks of virginity

>> No.25092906

>>25092846
it's because natives have posted like retards here long enough for esls to start thinking that's their actual extent of knowledge of the language

>> No.25092935

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/394151686
どうぞ

>> No.25092946

>>25092884
nice try

>> No.25092952

You know that website also posts where these words are found most. Almost all of the gesticulate hits are from fiction, where as words like mutual fund are found in magazines/newspapers. So like I said before, it really depends on what you are exposed to. If you don't read, perhaps you missed words like these. A word like spineless, which is just as obscure, is found in every category almost equally, so you're more likely to have been exposed regardless.

>> No.25092961

>>25092877
>>25092884
honest question did you guys go to college

>> No.25092967

>>25092961
no why

>> No.25092975

>>25092906
we post like retards and yet you still come here instead of going to websites in your native language very flattering

>> No.25092983

>>25092935
would actually make life so much easier if this were linked in the op

>> No.25093005

>>25092952
>Almost all of the gesticulate hits are from fiction, where as words like mutual fund are found in magazines/newspapers. So like I said before, it really depends on what you are exposed to. If you don't read, perhaps you missed words like these. A word like spineless, which is just as obscure, is found in every category almost equally, so you're more likely to have been exposed regardless.
great evidence that gesticulate is obscure relative to the words it's being compared to as people are more likely to read non fiction than fiction. native btw.

>> No.25093011

>>25092935
wait they actually struggle with this picturebook shit? lmfao

>> No.25093060

jesus christ that decks the sickest burn of the week

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25093070

here's a list of words in the 30,000 range for japanese

imagine not wanting to know words as common as this lmao

actually cringing right now

>> No.25093085
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>guy said that he spends 70 minutes day reviewing and doing 30 new cards
>i spend 3 hours day reviewing and doing 20 new cards
>dude said 70 minutes is either too much
It's serious? Am I the dumbest guy? I did it for 6 months.
I'm thinking about to delete core 6k and only do the audio deck.
Core 6k is so tiresome...

>> No.25093086

swear on my fucking life if ciaran has been posting in this thread the past half hour i'm gonna go fucking nuts and accidentally trample that little worm

>> No.25093091

>>25093070
yeah except we're not immersed in jp 24x7, nice fallacy

>> No.25093107

>>25093091
why not? how is that a fallacy either? i know all the words in that image despite only learning for like 3 years or so.

>> No.25093137

>>25093107
ur talking to a guy who quit japanese and now he’s trying to boost his confidence with his eigo ability just leave him be

>> No.25093143

>>25093085
you might want to take a few months off of japanese and learn to focus or something

it's possible you've completely destroyed your brain from the internet

i would suggest doing 30 minutes of meditation a day and then reading in english for a few hours with the internet unplugged and your phone turned off.

the idea here is to attempt to focus and keep bringing your attention back to what you're trying to focus on in a neutral way.

do this for 2 months and then start your japanese journey again. you will make better progress this way.

>> No.25093147

>>25093085
dude its only 6k you could plow throw that in like a month if you put your back into it
hope youve done rrtk and kanji readings before at the very least otherwise everything probably sounds like random gibberish you have to learn fresh for each word not to mention you cant even read any of it aka a complete waste of time

>> No.25093186

>>25093147
>hope youve done rrtk and kanji readings before at the very least otherwise everything probably sounds like random gibberish you have to learn fresh for each word not to mention you cant even read any of it aka a complete waste of time
stop spreading dumb lies like this, just because you wasted your time doesn't mean you need to convince others to do the same

>> No.25093207

>>25092935
lol my sides

>> No.25093280

>>25055739
Sorry for being retards but I can't find the recommended Anki Core3k?

>> No.25093283

I don't get how esls are fine with having such subpar vocab when they know they'll be dealing with English for their whole life
If it were me I'd grind at least a hundred vocab cards a day, I prefer not being served

>> No.25093592

>>25093564
Yes please so tommorow will be better

>> No.25093613

>>25093147
Yes, 200 new words a day with no kanji knowledge. Also cram Tae Kim in like 32 minutes while you're at it and start reading Dies irae with a text hooker.

>> No.25093672

>>25093574
Thanks man.

>> No.25093691

You young fellas got the game messed up, back in my days we used to respect japanese

>> No.25093786

ESL here, how do I pronounce "MIAer"?

>> No.25093798

>>25093186
i'm doing
>10 klc a day
>40 - 45 klc vocab depending on the kanji learned
>n5 and n4 grammar and free month bunpro srs spam
>klc graded reading in kanji learned order
until i can jump into beginner level manga in a month or two haha...

>> No.25093919

newfags cant 米素度

>> No.25094004

よねずだく (米津玄師と性的関係を持つようになる、の意)

>> No.25094016

stop trying to make beisudo a thing

>> No.25094033

>>25093798
idk what half those words mean
what i did to get reading fluency
>tae kim + core2k (no isolated kanji study)
>read and add words for about 2 years (20k vocab deck)
>fluent in reading, but still do reps for another year
>delete anki

that was like 5 years ago though and i almost never come across an unknown word, and if i do i don't really need anki to remember it. rtk is definitely not needed.

>> No.25094237

>>25094033
yeah, you did it pretty inefficiently
you can't really pick up kanji just from learning vocab without a metric fuckton of exposure owing to the sheer detail in them so saying dedicated kanji study isn't needed is terrible advice
you're just tricking people into thinking they're making easy gains when in reality you're setting them on a brutal and unnecessarily long journey

>> No.25094293

>>25094237
t. i just started learning kanji and i can't imagine learning vocab without it, even though i've never tried

>> No.25094304

>>25093085
>>25093798
why can't esls be cute and adorable like this instead of being ugly ass whippersnappers

>> No.25094334

>>25094293
i learned all the joyo like 3 years ago dude

>> No.25094349

>>25094304
o no no no you cant be using obscure words like that!!

>> No.25094354

>>25094033
KKLC/KLC basically replaced RTK and covers 2300 kanji and 7200 vocab. The vocab is structured around only incorporating previously learned kanji. The graded reading set takes it to another level and adds thousands of example sentences in the same order.

>> No.25094367

I'm sorry but this dude is retarded
https://streamable.com/ftef7c

>> No.25094372
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fuck stylized katakana

try guessing this manga title

>> No.25094395

>>25094372
Twin Pink Tulips

>> No.25094436

>>25094395
lmao glad i wasn't the only one

>> No.25094439

>>25094354
i don't hate the idea of learning a bunch of vocab with certain kanji in a row to nail down the reading and meaning, but there's no reason to make special note of the character itself. the vocab you learn will tell you all the meanings and readings you need to care about.

>> No.25094479

>there's no reason to make special note of the character itself. the vocab you learn will tell you all the meanings and readings you need to care about.
really wish i could filter you retards

>> No.25094533
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25094533

also another reason to not make note of a particular meaning is because how many meanings each character tends to have

if you try and force one specific meaning onto every vocab you learn, instead of just learning the vocab word itself, you're just hurting yourself in the long run

pic related is a list of distinct meanings for the character 分

just learn the words

>> No.25094647

>>25094439
yea except 99% of people who do this never really learn to recognize the kanji in vocab properly and easily get confused when a word with similar looking characters pops up
all you "i made it without studying kanji" folk are just advertising your own idiocy, the fact is the same result could be achieved in less than half the time it took you, keep patting yourself on the back though

>> No.25094677

>>25094647
did you become fluent in japanese using both both methods?

>> No.25094817

>>25055739
Damn this stickie is great.
I started yesterday and I almost got all hiragana down.
38/46
I hope by the end of this week I be able to understand hiragana and katakana symbols in Japanese literature.
Wish me luck

>> No.25095232

www.reddit.com/r/MassImmersionApproach/comments/i0z2z9/should_i_stop_reviewing_vocab_decks/

>> No.25095355

Okay, i need workbook. What do you moon-runers use to study?

>> No.25095471

>>25094372
Jagaan?

>> No.25095715

just saw the kanji version of wagamama and realized its actually means

>> No.25095726

>>25095715
*realized what it actually means

>> No.25095793

how hard of a read are the idolmaster games?

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>>25095471

>> No.25095965

As long as you still experience nihongo as something external, something you are 'doing', you still lack a viewpoint of knowledge and you're ngmi.

>> No.25096268

>>25096202
imagine spending over an hour on this few cards lol fucking sentence card idiots

>> No.25096608

>>25096487
ロシア文学とかは

革命いぜんのやつが

にほんにのこってたりするのかなあ


これからアメリカが混乱になっても

アメリカの書物のふるいやつは

にほんご訳はぜんぶのこる

>> No.25096723

https://twitter.com/TheMadd86crew/status/1289024078477758464

>> No.25096734
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katakana is such shite

>> No.25097209
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言いなりになる
言いなりになる

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>邪魔ルの中国人のちっちゃいチンポを見た後

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mined

>> No.25097438

>>25097408
guy is decent, good progress

>> No.25097446

>>25097426
ドイツじんはかしこいなあ

>> No.25097527

>>25097477
lol

>> No.25097542

don't even need to be an oldfag or know anything about J*mala and still automatically get sick of this dumb tripcode user just by seeing his posts

>> No.25097657

the fact that jamutt has likely replied to my posts hundreds of times and i havent seen a single one of them is amusing to me

>> No.25097668

lmao

>> No.25097719

crazy how youre not good until youre good

>> No.25097860

>>25097719
no

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>>25097575

>> No.25097935

subs for 2 eps of alicization are up on kitsunekko fuck ye

>> No.25097966

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTJSt4wP2ME
miss these times even though they sucked too

>> No.25098067

>>25097935
3 subs up for re zero, whoever is making those is my savior

>> No.25098414

>can read my nippon manga
>but cant "understand" it
how fix it
i always feel like if i am interpreting the text wrongly

>> No.25098425

>>25098414
watch more j subbed anime

>> No.25098435

>>25076003
>だからなんだって話ですが
>「だからなんだ」という話ですが

>> No.25098890

what do i write in my 募集文 to get a 遠距離恋愛 gf

>> No.25099611

https://youtu.be/SKIoD8ZTC0k

>> No.25099641

what did he mean by this?
https://twitter.com/TheMadd86crew/status/1288567343501709313

>> No.25099649

>>25099039
that works though

>> No.25099806

https://twitter.com/TheMadd86crew/status/1286860596244291584
didn't realize the monolingual transition would be so tough for an intermediate

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>> No.25100329

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NPBIwQyPWE

>> No.25100356

https://youtu.be/KPxSS1zHWwQ?t=21

>> No.25100509

i just checked and it took me about 3 minutes to make a card wtf? if i make 15 cards thats 45 minutes

>> No.25100512

ive been using a premade n1/n2 deck to supplement when i dont mine enough words in a day and was pretty surprised by the number of words i know just based on the standard reading/meaning combination of the kanji. i wouldnt be surprised if i could understand an additional 5-10k words like these if i saw them when reading.

>> No.25100653

>>25100547
clench

>> No.25100666

>>25100509
>i just checked and it took me about 3 minutes to make a card wtf?
yea you're doing something very wrong. should take 20-30 seconds at most.

>> No.25101048

i finished vineyard saga.

the ending was satisfying but when you look at it from a holistic perspective you realize they probably sacrificed a better story overall for the payoff ending. the rest of the anime is very generic and the mc is one of the most boring characters ive ever seen, but they basically had to make it that way because any kind of real character development on thorfinns part would have meant the ending couldnt work at all. unfortunately it means most of his scenes are very cringey and the fucked up looking facial animation only makes it worse.

in truth it should be like a 6/7 but i gave it an 8 because im easily entertained.

>> No.25101097

character development is dumb

>> No.25101235

>>25101048
it was decent... kind of dragged in the middle. i liked the lessons like strength lies in finding reasons to live and seeing them through, but revenge is a dead end. we're all basically still confused animals acting on experience and eventually we'll all be forgotten in time no matter how cool or pathetic we were

>> No.25101237

>>25099611
girl with glasses is cute

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>>25100927
all you need to know

>> No.25101340

https://youtu.be/07wEnmt7Ki8

>> No.25101881

what mango should i look at

>> No.25102193

>>25102108
whats ur problem bro

>> No.25102248

>>25094533
bullshit outliers mostly
kanji study alone makes at least half of the combinations of what you studied intelligible, i can correctly read and interpret words ive never even seen before so i can focus on acquiring their context lol imagine wasting 5 years of life grinding like a returd

>> No.25102293

>>25102248
>i can correctly read and interpret words ive never even seen before
so can everyone else since u acquire a lot of kanji by learning vocab too

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>>25102311
>and save djt RIGHT NOW.
umm from what exactly? japanese?

>> No.25102420

>>25092596
>>25092713
i'm an esl and it's actually cute that you guys were discussing about gesticulating being fancy or not.

why would i ever think that "gesticulating" is a rare word? the word that looks exactly like that in my language is just the normal way of saying it. do you assholes realize that an esl can be from fucking anywhere? it's likely that you were talking to a guy whose native language is very distant from English...

>> No.25102428

>>25102105
why

>> No.25102579

>>25102537
you never read berserk?

>> No.25102591

i was accused of being an esl but all i did was point out that gesticulate is an uncommon try hard word and because i was btfoing people on the topic of japs and white dick they switched over to that

>> No.25102766

>>25102537
its a word from ancient hindu i think
it refers to a strange but incredible phenomenon that happens when people do yoga or meditation up to a certain level, until "energy" in their bodies that was previously blocked due to psychological-emotional conditioning, gets unblocked, released as "free energy" and then starts to shoot up the body
thats why people say 'kundalini rising" because it literally feels like electricity zooming up and throughout your body
its very cool and feels amazing BUT it can also get weird too and be scary for people who don't know what's happening to them, like chicks who go to yoga thinking its just a regular exercise class and then after getting pretty advanced at it they start experiencing kundalini having never heard of it before

>> No.25102775

>>25102467
wtf i thought japs have no soul though???

>> No.25102837

>>25102817
only dabbled in it, but its legit

>> No.25102841

>>25102815
notice i never accused him of using a thesaurus in that post
>>25091897

>> No.25102872

>>25092935
nice

>> No.25102889

>>25102837
>but its legit
lmfao im sharing a thread with crazies

>> No.25102920

gonna watch yugioh raw

>> No.25102919

jesus christ you meditation cultists are mega cringe

>> No.25102921

>>25102579
no what does it say

>> No.25102940

>>25102889
i mean if its worked without me even mastering it that says a lot

>> No.25102961

>>25102889
it's just an experience, leaving pseudoscientific explanations aside i don't see anything about it that is particularly crazy

>> No.25103024

what i hate about reading in japanese is that i have to focus and turn on the "kanji mode"
very straining. i run out of mental stamina after a while

>> No.25103039

>>25102982
why are you so scared of your own body

>> No.25103045

>>25102889
yeah it is

>> No.25103047

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=225K-LR62Ek
for me, it's....

>> No.25103147

>>25102991
no i stopped before that but ill try it more later, but i did go through the serpent rising in the first 2 chakras for about 15 minutes a day and the pleasure was real, so i can imagine it getting to a gasp point

>> No.25103180

>>25103147
lmfao

>> No.25103186

>>25103128
https://streamable.com/b6kya
https://streamable.com/ay43z
https://streamable.com/d4prq
https://streamable.com/7n6j2
https://streamable.com/f43ix

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