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My english translated version of EoSD is suddenly moving at like 2000fps even in menus. None of the fixes I've looked up seem to be working.

If I do a fresh install I should be able to transfer the replay files just fine right? There's a few I really don't want to lose.

>>24988547
They'll transfer fine, but back them up somewhere first in case you accidentally delete the entire old install with the replays inside.
I've done that once.

>>24988547
https://www.thpatch.net/wiki/Touhou_Patch_Center:Download#Running_on_top_of_vpatch

>>24987140
where to next?

>>24987140
Man that's weird, you already posted my clear chart. Crazy huh?

>>25021081
Give MoF lunatic a shot. Should be pretty manageable considering some of your other clears.

>>25021394
I was thinking I'd try that one. I kind of want to LNB too but my favorite games are all really nasty for that
Also how is LLS lunatic? I hear people say the game is easy but does it scale up? I've had some trouble with the game desu, the rank is nasty

>>25021708
>LLS Lunatic
There's a lot of gimmicky stuff (i.e. really hard on sightread but much easier once you memorize them) but you're given a crazy amount of resources (like 11 live and a bunch of free bombs) so it's easily brute-forceable.

>>25021901
Wow, truly the game was ahead of its time

I finally beat Easy mode.

>>24987140
here we go. eventually going for all clears, working my way up the difficulty

>>24987140
is SA hard pretty hard?
seems like it is

>>25030116
SA is a tough game in general, one of the hardest in the series at all difficulties.

>>25030601
people always say this but sa is one of the most common games to lnn

gee i wonder why

>>25030868
LNN is a different story, for the average bombspamming 1cc SA is difficult, mostly because resources are a bit tighter, bombs not being as gamebreaking and the game having a consistently above average level of execution requirements on all stages. Though of course its peak isn’t as high as UFO, EoSD, and LoLK in terms of crazy shit
It is also just a popular game so many people grinding it should be expected

>>25030868
That's because SA has no overly difficult attack and a lot of it is completely static. The hardest attack, Catwalk, can be skipped, and the next hardest attacks are Peta Flare and DBDB with ReimuA, neither of which are *that* bad.

People give IN shit for being easy, but the number of people that LNN'd it is the same as EoSD because attacks like Reimu's final and Rising World are pretty hard. But in a 1cc run, you can just skip them.

>>25031089
>a lot of it is completely static
exactly, and that just means you fags don't practice enough or watch replays

>>25031203
That reminds me, people also like to call Marisa useless in SA, but MarisaB has the funnest options to use imo and a really strong bomb. It's crazy how much she can trivialize every single stage, but that red forward shot is really fucking awful compared to ReimuA. At least the blue, green, and even back shots have their uses on bosses.

>2020
>still no LLS LNN
I am really surprised none of the top survival players have tried this just so they can say they’re the only one who’s done it.

>>25031203
Consistency and precision are challenging in their own right. I remember my SA lunatic grind being reset hell on stages 1-3, became a lot about mindset on focus. Of course LNN players are probably above those problems though

>>25033514
consistency and precision in what? getting into all the safespots sa has?

>>25033326
99% of those players don't care about PC-98.

>>25034776
Kind of depressing really. MS is basically like proto-EoSD but it only has one LNN whereas EoSD has something in the 30’s.

>>25027722
oh shit fan games!

>>25027722
Really nice you added FDF2, EIoS and SSS, those are great games!

>>25043814
And MS only has an LNN because people figured how to lame Yumeko out.

>>25062272
I wonder if EoSD would be impossible if there wasn’t a safespot for eternal meek

>>25075305
nah people have done lnns without it

>>25075305
It's not that bad doing it the normal way. Sakuya's stage 5 nons and KD are worse.

On the subject of EoSD, how do you all feel about RNG in touhou? Does it truly add an additional level of challenge or is it just an annoying element that makes luck more of a factor than skill?

>>25081486
The RNG is what makes the games Touhou, and much of the game isn't really affected by it anyway. It will make some patterns easier or harder, but it's never bullshit.

I dislike shit like glowy fireballs, being in roaring mode in WBaWC, the shaking bullets while grazing in LoLK, and anything else that impedes visibility more.

>>25026858
Congratulations!

>>25081486
The heavy RNG is the only reason I play Touhou and why I can’t stomach other shooters. I love random shooting that test my ability to dodge as opposed to memorizing static patterns.

>>25081486
It keeps the series fresh for people who aren't overly fond of routing like me. At a LNB or LNN level it seems to be pretty cancerous occasionally, when bosses decide to move down over and over again or shit like that.

1cc'd IN normal mode with Youmu/Yuyuko. It feels like I've accomplished something great. I know it's only one game and one team, and there are 2 more difficulties and the extra stage but it's the biggest accomplishment I've got this year.
I think I'll try 1cc'ing with other teams and then start playing hard mode or play another 2hu game.

What is the hardest game to score?

>>25107803
The one you like the least.

>>25026858
How does easy mode even end in EoSD?

>>25110284
reimu kills herself after wandering the halls of SDM for what felt like an eternity in sakuya’s insanity-inducing hallway labyrinth

>>25096458
good job anon! keep dodging those bullets

>>24987140
how

Is there a patch that gets rid of visual effects, specifically LoLK?

>>25146342
save the picture and open in mspaint then fill in each difficulty/shot type you've cleared with

This is what 2^14 knifes look like.

Wow, nobody told me how fun GFW was. My favorite part is the bright yellow laser popcorn bullets from cutting through the ice that blend in perfectly with your own ice.

Don't you love it when ZUN puts the player first and makes everything perfectly visible?

>>25162461
>Don't you love it when ZUN puts the player first and makes everything perfectly visible?
I do, that's why I love MS Stage 4, nothing blends in at all!

Do you think ZUN will ever make another difficult pointdevice game?

>>25183146
Probably soon after he makes another team game.

>>25183420
He’s already made another pair up game, even another UFO game, so I see it coming back desu

>>25162461
Try not getting your ice cut by lasers. I think that'll help.

>>25185213
not possible in some cases, like in c-1 spell 2 it can't be avoided

i've cleared SA on 1CC lunatic after 2 tries with marisa and reimu
i come from a background of donpachi, is there anything harder?

>>25198035
IN Alice Solo/Sakuya Solo, UFO MarisaB, DDC SakuyaB.

>>25198035
You can try for no bombs or no miss no bomb runs. Though if you got a nearly blind lunatic 1cc of one of the harder touhou lunatics even that might be a breeze
Who the fuck are you?

>>24987140
Here's mine. I'm thinking about getting into SA on lunatic, or UFO on hard.

>>25198035
Do society a favor and LNN Lotus land story

>>25199119
call me donpachi player
i've just been playing donpachi and sequels for years now.
and it was nearly blind, though 1 extra try each really set it in stone.
>>25199322
ok anon

>>25199649
If you really do end up being the first to do it, submit your replay as donpachiplayer so I can say I made history

What's that?

>>25199714
what is the criteria of no miss, i assume no enemies missed.
this sounds like good challenge

>>25199825
"Miss" is how people call deaths
"No miss run" = "No death run"

>>25199939
oh, ok, no missed enemies sounds fun and really hard though

>>24987140
I finally fucking filled my EoSD chart after gameovering to SG 6 times

>>25200568
EoSD is a bitch because its difficulty is really backloaded, particularly remilia’s last 3 spells and nonspell, meaning you’ll game over agonizingly close to clear so often
Good job

Close to beating Raiko-
Could i consider myself decent?

>>25200793
Extra stages + SA Normal clear means you’re around a hard mode player which is pretty good. Better than 99% of the people who call themselves touhou fans at least

>>25199939
this is very hard, but fun

>>25200992
ty anon

>>25199825
>no enemies missed
You can try it, it doesn't sound so bad with MarisaB. If you count familiars as enemies, then Yuugi and Orin in stage 4 and 5 will require you to bomb, otherwise I think the second half of stage 3 is the only part that would be an issue.

>>25183146
Zun said in the omake.txt that it was a nightmare to make, so I doubt it.

>>24987140
Here is mine, updated today after not getting anything in months, TD is gone!

>>25227797
I wish my clear chart was as organized as this.
Good Job!

>>25227797
I admire your persistence. What’s next?

I would give UFO Lunatic a shot and finish up IN if I were you. If you can 1cc FinalB with Alice, then you can definitely 1cc FinalA.

not that great of a clear rate yet, i usually consider a game done when i cleared it on reimu A. also this chart makes it pretty clear that my favorite game is IN.

haven't updated the chart since the release of lolk, but i don't have any of the newer games installed anyway.

my most recent run was MOF hard with reimu A. thinking next is either flandre or PCB hard.

>>24987140
what do I do next, /jp/?

>>25249980
I vote for MS extra stage

she'd had enough of this lousy run

>>24987140
This one's mine. Started playing about 2 months ago

Which 2hus could 1CC a 2hu game?

>>25253959
Reimu gets them with very little practice, just relies on her instincts and dodges. Could easily LNB/LNN but is too lazy to grind.
Marisa spends a long time memorizing stages in practice mode, looking up replays to find safespots and plan out resource use, and gets the 1cc weeks later. May never get good enough to LNB/LNN, but can probably get a lot of other impressive shmup clears due to sheer persistence
Sakuya plays for score, is a bit of an elitist and doesn't think much of mere survival players. She is extremely talented and also very diligent and willing to grind. Unfortunately nobody in the community regards her clears as valid because her powers automatically make everything TAS. She swears she doesn't use them though.
Sanae is extremely competitive, and is currently one of the best in gensokyo due to her extensive knowledge of video games as well as her penchant for causing miracles. Her survival runs are unmatched, with many of the strats used being entirely of her own creation. Very helpful with new players as well and has produced various guides and walkthroughs.
Youmu tries her best, but the talent just is not there. Nor is she particularly cunning either, and her ability for memorization is rather poor. Can't get past easy mode
Reisen is pretty good, however suffers from significant mindset issues and nerves. She has gotten close to lunatic 1cc but she chokes, gets frustrated, burnt out, and is overly hard on herself.

>>24987140
Huh, my chart looks different after cleaning it up
Probably because I had to update it myself but still neat to know
Though that pixel you got cut off at the top is puzzling me

>>25242581
>>25245118
Thanks!
I'm not very fond of UFO, most likely do it last unless I have a change of heart. I'm saving that Alice clear for when I learn Remilia LNB, also I guarantee Eirin is harder for her.
For now I'll just mess around until I decide if I want to LNB MoF or just get the clears, if I dont then DDC most likely.

>>25277921
>UFO
I actually kinda like the idea of routing UFOs for your own resources. Developing and practicing a UFO route is hell without the practice tool though, and the normal stage practice is awful. Regardless, it’s still quite doable with SanaeB.

>Eirin
I guess it’s personal preference then. I don’t find anything supremely hard about stage 6A, but Astronomical Entombing with only a youkai sounds bad. Even then, I think you can misdirect the orbs to minimize how many familiars they hit.

6B on the other hand really benefits from having a wide/homing shot, which Alice doesn’t have. Kaguya’s attacks are mostly RNG shit and make it tough to stay under her most of the time.

Power outage so I haven’t been able to play POFV where I’ve been trying to 1cc everyone on normal. I’ve cleared everyone but Youmu and Lyrica so far. Sakuya is a pain in the ass because not only is she a pain as an enemy, especially on stage 6, but she’s a pain to actually play as with her horrid scope. Somehow miraculously Eiki died on me only 1 minute 58 seconds in after her first win when I’ve often had her last 3 minutes 10 seconds+ even with 2 wins under her belt.

>>25021081
Finish the Extras you haven't done yet in the Windows games (I would ordinarily say save LoLK Extra for after those two because it's so hard but if you've cleared Legacy on Lunatic you probably like LoLK enough that you'd enjoy it). HSIFS and WBaWC can wait until you do that. Then save GFW and the photo games for the end which are the real treat.

>>25146342
Actually just a lot of luck required. Painful scene.

>>25200793
Good solid progress. If you went in order I imagine SA was a big level-up moment like it was for me. LoLK will be interesting.

>>25256873
Cirno doesn't know about Shift or X

>>25316428
I went to go play some other shmups before realizing they will just never be as enjoyable to me as touhou. Time to come home I guess.
The closest thing I could find to Touhou was the original exceed 3rd. I just find sci fi settings depressing and heavy memo-based gameplay feels like a chore

>>25316428
LoLK Extra is way easier than Legacy Lunatic, especially if you’re using Reisen.

Somehow managed to get my first 1cc on hard. Zun-sama may look down on me but I find Eirin way more manageable than Kaguya with the magic team. Would have tried ending B had I not died stupidly before.

>>24987140
this dungeon sucks

>>25332943
That's a nice milestone. I used to find Kaguya scary, but I grinded her in spell practice for about an evening, and she's not that scary anymore - at least for 1CCs.
It didn't take long for me to get my hard B route 1CC after I did the A route.
Good luck! Magic team can cheese her fire spell, but that's the only thing I can think of, and it's not as helpful as cheesing Eirin's final.
Can you even destroy all the slaves in Kaguya's final? The Malice cannon takes down like half of them fairly quickly, but some of them (the ones to the sides?) never seem to die.

>>25338041
Extra stage is short so you can quickly get back and retry but screw this I'm doing ending A until I can get at stage 6 with enough lives to throw at her.
I don't know about her final, I still don't understand how it works

>>25338141
I'm sure you'll get Kaguya soon enough. You are a hard-clearer, after all: merely doing Final A over and over won't satisfy you for long - not when there are more bosses to beat.

So what the fuck's up with Marisa in EoSD? Her Master Spark can just skip entire spell cards and it's hilarious. Is she the go-to recommendation for getting 1ccs on Normal mode in that game? That's how I first originally got mine.

KILL ME

>>25391646
You have now hit the genetic wall. Turn back

>>25391727
it's too late for me anon, i have nearly 3500 attempts across all shots and i'm too far gone

>>25391918
That people exist who can not only cap this spell consistently but replicate the feat at the end of a grueling LNN run will never cease to amaze me

>>25392440
I'd like to know how they do it. What is their internal model of the spell and what kind of input are they looking for to determine how to dodge?
I refuse to believe it's a genetic wall. If it is, I want all LNN LoLK players at the sperm bank, now. They have a lot of work to do, for the future of mankind.

>>25412988
No LNN (only Junko NN), but in my prime I maxed out at a ~40% cap rate, if you can call that "consistent". Pic is what I try to do, but a lot of the time I'll get overwhelmed and have to bottomhug for a few seconds while focusing on just the 2 inches in front of my hitbox. I'd say 90% of it boils down to just reacting faster, really. Any sort of strategy that might be useful is predicated on you already having the reaction speed/reading ability to deal with the onslaught of bullets.
As for the genetics thing, I used to think anyone could just keep practicing and improve, but after spending a considerable amount of time on Nue's final timeout phase without getting her to half health even once, I'm fairly convinced that it might just be too hard for me, in which case there's no reason why the same barrier couldn't exist for other people when it comes to PDH.

not very impressive, i know. latest clear was TD and lately have been trying to clear with Marisa which is proving suprisingly painful. Also grinding IN and PCB on hard on the side

Recently replayed LoLK since it's turning 5 years old and I wrote a retrospective.
https://www.ocgamer.org/themoonasseenthroughlunaticeyes
It's very long, and probably better in video format, but I don't really have recording equipment. But I just wanted to put it out there, in case anyone likes these things. The website is my friend's, no ads.

>>25421092
Meh. It doesn't really say much other than being a big collection of factual statements about the game. Kinda iffy at points too, what with it saying Legacy mode saves your progress (it doesn't, at all) and implying the game makes itself harder for Pointdevice mode only (the patterns and such are the same between gameplay modes - the only thing that affects difficulty is, well, the difficulty selector).

>>25421742
>>25421092
I like it when people reach a bit more. Like your analysis of ringo was good. There’s a lot of room for interpretation for the themes and characters of touhou so you can just roll with it to extent.
A good blog for people not familiar with the series but doesn’t really go beyond being just a summary

tfw can only 1cc on Easy.

Kill me.

>>25427078
you can do more, you just don’t know it yet

>>25420193
Wish you good luck anon!

>>25421865
>>25421742
Thanks for the feedback. I plan on doing this on a regular basis for the other games, maybe even on a video format. How would you suggest that I go beyond from being a summary? I was under the (mistaken) impression that my feelings on the game were pretty explicit, as I went over how each fight made me feel and how the music went along with it. Would you suggest I change the voice? One of my friends told me the voice is too passive. I think I'm beginning to understand what it means.

>>25438637
Like I said, talk more about things that run a bit deeper than the surface. A good topic for research is character origins. clownpiece for example is based on the greek Lampedes, companions of Hecate (also hecatia), and they hold a torch with the power to turn people insane. Also clownpiece has a lot of not so subtle commentaries like being a fucked up statue of liberty, prison sign, etc etc that are worth mentioning that people might not catch even after playing a bit

>>25421092
Maybe the other comments lowered my expectations, but I thought it was pretty good. You're not really trying to educate the reader, but convey the emotions one might feel when playing through LoLK.
You might want to be careful about alienating some of your readers when you say that Junko is easier than Clownpiece, though,
>>25391646
is not the first or only one to bash their head against PDH, but you phrase it as if Clownpiece is objectively harder. I guess this is one of the caveats of the kind of text you've written: if the reader experienced very different emotions while playing through the game, they will likely get turned off by the text.
Still, thanks for doing the retrospective: I think it was a nice contribution to LoLK's 5th anniversary.

>>25421742
pointdevice is harder because you can't get bombs by dying

>>25421092
>Junko may not be as tough, or underhanded as Clownpiece was
You 1cc'd Lunatic and still think this? Practice Clownpiece a bit, find out that 3 of her 4 spells are basically static, and go on that LNN grind.

Not to shill or anything, but I found another person grinding out LLS LNN. For anyone interested in the category and isn't aware.
https://www.twitch.tv/zps_stg

>>25414865
>Nue's final timeout phase without getting her to half health even once

This is starting at the final phase at full health or something? Because I cleared Grudge Bow on my 3rd try while I haven’t even cleared normal mode purely bullet hell.

>>25449017
Link to their channel?

>>25452451
>link to their channel
I would highly suggest reading that post again

>>25452451
>This is starting at the final phase at full health or something?
It looks like this, though this guy made it even harder on himself on purpose by picking ReimuB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOnma1LiEi8
PDH is a literal joke compared to this.

>>25456584
Flan’s final is pretty wild too
https://youtu.be/wSw5CQTSzCY

>>25338041
I did it! I still don't understand Kaguya's final spell so I just master sparked my way through. Looks like a semi survival one.

>>25464484
You stream to the sides while re streaming to the center while dodgin the bullets that come from above.
Please activate windows anon and congrats!

In need of technical help. Windows 10 with Radeon RX 570, EoSD in fullscreen goes slightly janky/ever so slightly stuttering and unpleasant to play (and probably actually introduces some randomness into input with these micro-stutters). Last year I found that the solution was to check the "disable fullscreen optimizations" box in file properties, and months back this worked for me for a short time, but then it started making the game run at a low FPS only, and as I just tried running it now, nothing seems to have changed (runs at ~15-20 fps). I have the DX8 to DX9 converter and vpatch seems not to be helping much in this regard.

>>25256873
Reisen sounds like my friend, only that he did get his Lunatic 1cc after -much- anguishing. Reisen is also his favorite character in all of Touhou. I wonder...

Rank the games from easier to harder
>Easy:
WBaWC
HSiFS
IN
MoF
>Medium
DDC
PCB
EoSD
TD
>Hard
LoLK
SA
UFO
>Lunatic
PoFV

>>25496993
If we’re just talking about a regular lunatic 1cc anything goes
>Lunatic
UFO
SA
EoSD
>Hard
MS
DDC
LoLK
>Normal
IN
PCB
HSiFS
>Easy
WBaWC
MoF
TD
LLS

>>25497499
well, since I'm a fucking casual i was thinking more on the lines of normal 1cc
>IN more difficult than Ten desires
no way

>>25497814
I don’t know what’s giving you trouble in TD but not only are its patterns easier than IN but you also get a very overpowered press C to win mechanic that has no business being in an already easier game

>>25497918
maybe because I'm a fucking retard who doesn't know how the fuck the press C to win works and constantly forgets its there
Regardless, TD is easy as fuck, but I still think the patterns of IN are way easier, not to mention in IN you got access to starting with extra lives and the replay stage mode to grind the non spellcards that I have no fucking clue why it wasn't implemented in the rest of the series

Maybe I'm biased because I like both games a lot but I've played IN way more and it just comes more naturally.

>>25498046
Changing starting lives don’t really count, and I wouldn’t say the patterns of IN are way easier. Reimu and Marisa are pretty difficult, Kaguya and Eirin as well. As a matter of fact those bosses become so difficult on lunatic that being able to LNN the game (lunatic no miss no bomb) is widely considered one of the hardest survival feats in touhou
I understand that though, sometimes some games just click and others don’t. Personally I have a of trouble with PCB for whatever reason even though my brain tells me it’s not something I’m “supposed” to be struggling with

>>25498169
Marisa and Reimu are indeed the bane of my existence, but I don't cry as hard with kaguya and Eirin. Perhaps it is indeed because I'm talking on normal difficulty while you have played on Lunatic
I was going to put PCB in easy in that list because of the first 4 stages being easy as fuck but then I remembered the massive spike in difficuoty that comes with the sisters all of the sudden out of nowhere, so you are not alone there

whatever the case, I'm going to ask you a controversial question, would you say that on Normal difficulty any of the games can be considered legitimately easy?
Doesn't matter if you and I have no trouble and thus from our perspective the games are easy, I'm talking from a general public point of view. Even on easy I really can't see normies not struggling to 1cc any of the games

>>25498277
>whatever the case, I'm going to ask you a controversial question, would you say that on Normal difficulty any of the games can be considered legitimately easy?
Unfortunately I just can't answer this question. Compared to other single player games? Most definitely. Even easier shmups are beyond the capability of the average normalfag. Most quit far earlier than you have.
But even though I can play these games on lunatic, I still struggle with many other genres. I'm absolute garbage at MMOs for whatever reason, no matter how hard I try I just cannot improve at them at all. It's a very personal thing, for some people certain things come easy, for others they need to work a bit harder. That's just life.
Just take things as they come, enjoy the improvement for the sake of improvement. Take joy in the fact that you were better than you were the day before. It's good to be competitive but at one point it will just make you insane, because there will always be someone better. Unless you're that guy who LNN'd LoLK with all shottypes I suppose.

>>25498425
>Compared to other single player games? Most definitely. Even easier shmups are beyond the capability of the average normalfag
well, that was actually a perfect answer, lmaoing at why you said how you couldn't answer the question

I personally claim that I fucking suck with touhou because I had to grind for years (granted, only playing very infrequently having poor memory) to be able to 1cc normal IN, but I can confidently say that I'm still above the normal public because out of all my irl friends who are also fans of touhou it seems I'm the only one who has been able to achieve that, which while surprising at the time in hindsight I guess it just isn't a casual friendly genre

How the fuck is touhou so popular? I guess I can see why it is appealing, but I'll never stop being confused as to how the fuck this one man proyect has so many fans

>>25498685
I do think it's more complicated when you start bringing in multiplayer games though, which is why I said it's difficult to answer. In multiplayer games you don't get concrete achievements like you do in single player games, your skill is entirely relative to everyone else's. There's really stupid questions people ask like, are WR score runners as impressive as fighting game champions and so on and so forth. You just can't get a straight answer to that.
Touhou's popularity will forever be a mystery. People say "cuz fanworks" but that's not really going to the root. Why did it get fanwork to begin with? There's plenty of other doujin cute em ups that fell into obscurity while Touhou succeeded and surpassed literally every other shmup in influence.
The world may never know.

>>25496993
This vastly depends on the difficulty and whether you’re talking about survival or scoring. I’ll assume LNN since you can always bomb or skip the hard attacks and I’m not familiar with scoring in every game.

>Easy
MoF
GFW
TD
WBaWC

>Normal
DDC (ReimuA or SakuyaA)
PCB
SA
HSiFS (Autumn or Winter)

>Hard
IN (4A is harder than 4B, 6B is harder than 6A)
UFO
HSiFS (Spring or Summer)

>Lunatic
EoSD
DDC (any other shottype)
LoLK

You could of course separate each game further into specific shottypes, but DDC and HSiFS have the most drastic changes in difficulty in that regard.

What are some fun and difficult yet not impossible (nue final) spellcards to timeout?

>>25504082
Clownpiece’s first two nons and Doremy’s second non come to mind for some crazy dodging

>>25504082
>>25504203
Mokou's final nonspell is also pretty crazy

>>25504082
vowg

What's the most evil spellcard of all games?
I'll leave the definition to your discretion, but for me its fucking hell's tokamak

>>25506277
Behind Festival is the worst. Satono and mai in general have really annoying attacks.

>>25506277
Is that even a question? Pure Danmaku Hell by far

>>25506277
Any of Seija's horizontally flipped spellcards for me. I can autistically grind out any spellcard in 2hu and eventually clear it semi-reliably, even if it takes me months. Horizontally flipped spellcard/controls fucks with my brain hard. I don't think the pattern itself is difficult I used to just cheat with a hand mirror when DDC dropped but I'll never get used to fucked up controls.

>>25507639
not sure if brainlet of fucking genius

>>25507639
just move left and right bro

>>25506277
kudos to that particular spellcard for looking so fucking good. It 100% feels like being inside a fantasy tokamak of fire

Am I supposed to hold shift all the time?
If that makes the games easier, is it something to be ashamed of?
If that makes the games harder, is it something to strive for?

>>25532987
You use shift when you need it. It’s just a tool, using it correctly will make the game easier, using it incorrectly will make it harder. Generally want to use it when the dodging gets tight and you have little space to work with. Also holding shift makes you do more damage most of the time. In the stage portions you’ll typically have to unfocus a lot though for a wider shot and to deal with multiple enemies quickly

>>25532987
No. Ideally you want to be comfortable moving at both speeds and be able to switch between them based on the situation.
No, it does not make the games easier, and even if it did it would not be something to be ashamed of.
Yes, it does make the games harder, and focus-only runs could be an interesting challenge to attempt, but it's not a common thing and if anything people would rather play no-focus runs, because no-focus makes things harder but still possible and focus-only makes certain patterns completely undoable.

Not too impressive, but I feel like starting hard sometime soon.
Any tips or recommendations on where to start?

Is there any penalty for clearing the fighting games on easy difficulty, like how you can't unlock the Extra stage in most of the main games? I just started playing IaMP and am getting absolutely destroyed on Normal. I'm mostly playing for the story and to stop being a secondary. Also, is it better to play on a keyboard or use a controller?

>>25540021
The best place to start is just the game you like the most. MoF seems like a good start since you already have a lot of clears there and it's generally one of the more manageable games

>>25540021
If you just want a Hard clear, EoSD is ridiculously easy.

>>25540021
Try to clear an extra before hard mode. Good mid point.

playing through SA, doing very well, lots of lives by the end of stage 5, gonna easily 1cc even if i just strongarm my way through okuu
computer freezes on the stage switch

>>25544504
That's a bummer, but if you've done it once, you can do it again!

>>25544504
sometimes my game freezes when i speed up dialogue or transition to the next stage and it scares me

>>25544592
it was the whole computer, not just the game. that's normally something that happens when i leave it on for too long (like weeks), but i had just reset it yesterday
>>25544550
i tried but kept choking, too frustrated now
i had even captured every card but yuugi's midstage. that was going to be the one

>>25544652
Sounds like overheating to me

Screw it I'm fed up with PCB and keep raging/choking on stupid stuff. Should I try MOF or SA to work on pure dodging meanwhile?

>>25556617
Keep trying anon
Developing a strong mindset is just as important a skill as dodging in these games and the only way to learn it is to just keep grinding
A lot of this genre is just about how much punishment you can take

>>25556783
I managed IN easily but I can't bear those stage musics anymore. I've been grinding the 1cc for 6 months now.

>>25556880
How close are you with pcb?

>>25556908
Stage 1-3 are easy but I did them so much I either lose focus or rage and restart on the first miss.
Stage 4 is draining even though I have a route, but I feel like I grinded it so much any miss makes me instantly rage.
I can get to stage 5 any time I want. Midboss Youmu is a problem because I don't really practice her. Endboss I need 2 to 3 bombs to skip some annoying parts.
I just gas out at stage 6

>>25557100
You are going about it the wrong way. I can see why this has taken you 6 months
Just practice the hell out of stage 4 and 5. You should absolutely not have to restart on a 1 miss stage 1-3, nor even a 2 miss. Run through those two stages as much as you can, watch replays, use the practice tool, just put all your focus there for a little bit and you’ll find yourself getting much farther

>>25557100
Don't be afraid to use bombs before stage 5, and don't get frustrated when you die on random stuff.
I recommend you calculate how many resources you'll get over the course of the game. If you do that, you'll know how many lives you get, and how many times you can die/bomb and still have enough to comfortably beat stage 6.

>>25557100
>any miss makes me instantly rage.
Work on that.

>>25559634
i'm trying man but no missing is hard

>>25559681
For a 1cc your goal isn't to no miss, it's to not die with bombs in the tank.
People warn against panic bombing but in a game as generous is touhou it actually will get you farther than the reverse - trying to rely on reactions alone or insisting on capturing stuff that you're not perfectly consistent on.
The other anon gave good advice with calculating out your total resource pool, so you get a better idea of what you're working with.

>>25560251
I plan my bombs in advance so dying on some random Lilly White's rice grain is infuriating because 5+ bombs go to the shitter esp. as Marisa

>>25560369
Lilly White should be a bomb by default, it's a spell that can go wrong easily and you get a bomb afterwards anyways. It is not worth the risk at all

>>25560369
Stop trying so hard to stick to a single plan, you're not NMNBing these games.

>>25507639
I don't think I could look at the screen and a mirror and not run face-first into a bullet.

Is there any guide explaining how to use this chart? I'm a newbie and have no idea what it means...

>>25569432
It's a list of touhou games divided by character. It's for people to record which games they beat with which character. On top is the game eg HRTP is The Highly Responsive to Prayers, the old touhou game that no-one talks about. Underneath is initials indicating which character and which shot-type/options was used.

The left side is difficulties (Normal, Hard, Lunatic) plus the Extra stage/Penis-inspection stage if applicable. On later touhou games you can get the true ending by 1ccing on easy mode but easy isn't listed on the chart because I guess it's a chart for bragging and you can't brag about easy mode clears unless you're me.

Get to work and fill in some blocks Anon. Make me proud.

>>25569158
I turned my seat around and only looked at the reflection in the mirror, anon. It was the only way I could do left/right movements without being confused.

>>25569635
Thanks a lot!

>>25569903
Son I am impress.

>>25569936
And a 1cc is a 1 credit clear. If you lose all your lives you can use a "credit" to continue with more lives like an arcade game, but you'll usually be locked out of the good ending and the post-game extra stage. 1ccing is NOT doing that. You can die but you can't lose all your lives.

>>25540021
I'm just doing them in release order. All the early games are very manageable.
You can do Extra's while you do hard mode for a change of pace.

>>25544652
You'll get it soon. Maybe take a few days break to regain your motivation, but I wouldn't overthink it.

so i 1cc'd PoFV normal, but i still don't fully understand how the game works. i've seen people here talk about it before, but basically when i win it seems like it's just the CPU deciding "oh, it's my time to die now"
i mean i'm willing to take the win, but it never really feels like i'm actually winning. every time i beat someone, especially the later ones, it feels like a fluke

>>25600813
>it seems like it's just the CPU deciding "oh, it's my time to die now"
Yep, you figured it out. You can't really out-skill the CPU, it'll play superhumanly up to a point and then suddenly become vulnerable, which usually means getting hit immediately.
The game is really much more interesting to play against other humans.

Damn, PCB baited me into thinking I beat the game, only to sucker punch my dick while I took my hands off the keyboard to celebrate.
It wasn't going to be a 1cc anyway, but it would have been cool to clear stage 6 on my first attempt.

>>25604110
haha, that happened to me too a few months ago
i'm at the point in a lot of the games where i can do the stages in isolation fairly well, but any time i try to do a full run, i choke massively at one and kill all my resources. one of those things where it's just more practice needed, but i don't have the patience to focus on one

>>25506277
i hate that one
i can deal with looking in three direction at once as long as it's forward and both sides, but as soon as it involves looking below the character i always screw it up
that spell would be remarkably easy if the fireballs were on the sides rather than the top and bottom. for a similar spell i can do satori+alice's exploding dolls on lunatic, but i have so much trouble on that one even on normal all because i have to look down

I love fanmade Ultra patches because they're all well designed and everything is playtested to be the appropriate difficulty.

Just 1 CC'd SA, can I be considered decent at this game now ?

>>25642280
I am the official arbiter of relative touhou skill
And I determine that yes, you are decent touhou

>>25641344
Is the UltraB patch the same as the regular one? They both look like garbage.

I am trying to clear LoLK extra but I keep dying at Hecatia's moon spellcard thing.

>>25661189
I did it (with Reisen)!

>>25662855
Good job anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U22jiT3sRTM
we're finally getting our day in the sun yamamefags

>>25680368
where's the bullets? where's the hitbox? where's the shitty art? this isn't a toehoe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGWquuWO5Xo
Did anything ever come out of this? The link in the description is dead.

>>25695423
Just play ultra.

>>25698949
Ultra (2x bullets with autobomb) is retarded. At least the arrange mods/patches have some semblance of balancing and design.

>>24987140
Am I a secondary if I mostly like the non-danmaku games? I tried EoSD but didn't really enjoy it but I'm liking 7.5 a lot. I'm just getting the hang of it but I feel much more comfortable than I did with EoSD. Pache is especially fun to play.

>>25720169
nah you're only a secondary if you haven't tried (or have barely touched) the source material, fighting games included

Does there exist some arcane, secret strat that gets better results than flailing about like a suffocating fish?

>>25680368
i knew it

Perfectly doing the parts I hate while completely choking on parts I trained for. What trickery is this

>>25721992
watch yatzusume’s stuff on reading windows. but even then pdh, books and a few other things are going to demand a lot of quick reactions that are hard to just practice for

>>25721992
Books are kinda bullshit and you can never be consistent at them. I go straight under the first book that appears so at least one of them dies quickly. If you're going for a 1cc, bomb it.

WBaWC is hard

WBaWC is the worst Touhou since PoFV

WBaWC is easy

WBaWC is the best Touhou since PoFV

WBaWC is of moderate difficulty and is the most average Touhou since PoFV

Trying to clear MoF extra. How does Suwako's spell where she spawns frogs in a spiral pattern all over the screen even work, and how are you supposed to dodge it? Dive into the lane after the frogs 'erupt'?

>>25745226
You run inside to the inner circle, move clockwise, go back out, repeat

What is the hardest extra?

>>25752601
lolk, the rest are debatable

Which extra stage should I do next? So far I beat Mokou, then Ran, then Flandre. Flan was horrible so I'd like to do an easier one next

>>25752601
Seihou

>>25752601
Probably something like LoLK > GFW > LoLK (Reisen) > SoEW
>>25755128
Yukari, Suwako, Okina, and Saki are easier than Flan.

>>25544504
weirdly enough, i still haven't been able to 1cc SA but i've 1cc'd 3 other games in the meantime without even practicing
maybe i'm just overthinking it and should just pew pew my way through orin and okuu with the help of alice

>>25759887
SA is one of the harder ones, touhou games can vary pretty significantly

>>25760290
i'm way more practiced at it, though, whereas i had never even encountered most of yuyuko's yet walked through it
i think that's part of the problem though, because i'm practiced i keep trying to actually go for capturing rin and okuu's spells, but for youmu and yuyuko i was far more willing to bomb out of even a slight annoyance because i figured i wasn't going to make it anyway

>>25745289
Sorry, I don't really get it.

>>25767436
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqjoWx_YE1M

>>25643272
me next

>>25805304
You are "good" at touhou, you are on the verge of getting a lunatic 1cc which puts you on the border of "great" even.

>>25769064
I'm now capping it quite reliably with the strategy you posted. Thanks!

im just passing through to tell you that i have played touhou today and i fucking fell asleep playing 17 so i launched some 8 and i had fucking blast

ZUN should just stop also there is no reason to play anything other than 6-11

>>25814662
14 and 15 are fun

>>25814731
to play once and never again

>>25814769
you're literally wrong

>>25814893
yeah go do find the-safespot-and-repeat-the-pattern-spellcard.exe in your shitty UFO engine and tell me how much fun you had

>>25814935
You are being a reductive troglodyte and you know it, that is that sad part. I don't even have to argue with you because you know, deep down, you didn't give these games a chance. You want to enjoy the new games like everyone else and you are envious of the fun they are having so you try to chip away at it with your shitposting, thinking you will fool people. But you can't fool me.

>>25814662
4 and 17 are my favorite though

>>25814662
Incorrect, every Touhou game is worth playing at least once. Yes, even the games you hate like VD and WBaWC.
Also, I'll never understand IN fags who think IN is a perfect game. Music all sounds the same with ZUN's abuse of whatever you call that random scale sliding bullshit, designs were pretty ass except for Mokou, and the patterns weren't very beautiful. This is especially jarring since PCB didn't have this problem.
>>25814731
>>25815142
>>25815256
These anons get it. I'm sorry you can't enjoy the older and newer Touhou games, anon. They're pretty fantastic (though, the quality varies) and it's a shame you won't be here with us when the leaks/games drop during comiket season.

Does anyone here have the mod that adds PDH as a last word into IN?

>>25816664
I'd also like to know. I assume you're talking about this:
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm37243898

>>25815327
I actually think Eirin/Kaguya have some of the the best looking danmaku in the game
>Eirin's giant symmetrical curving/rotating designs
>Kaguya's last spell changing colors to imitate sunrise
>fuckin rainbows
Reimu's talisman cards are nice too
But the rest of the game is kind of subpar

>>25815327
>patterns weren't very beautifu
IN had the most beautiful patterns wtf?

>>25815327
i rather liked the IN music for the early stages, but i think PCB was better all around. i have a lot of nostalgiaglasses though because PCB was my first game (EoSD had trouble running back then for some reason)
i don't really think any of the games are *bad* and i enjoy playing even the ones i don't particularly like, but i really just do not like UFO. i'm not particularly a fan of any of the characters, and every time i play it i always feel like i hesitate on it, like "are you sure"
nue and the extra is the only redeeming factor for me

also for the life of me i can't finish an extra stage. i can get to the second to last spellcard for flandre, ran, koishi and saki, but i always run out of steam by that point and make dumb mistakes

>>25819960
If you can do that well on Koishi, then you should be able to beat Ran no problem. That stage absolutely showers you with resources too, so bomb proactively and a simple clear should be easy.

>>25820063
i had just begun practicing ran, but i'm gimping most of it with bombs or border of life
for koishi and flandre i can reliably capture the early spells, while with ran i'm still uneasy
if it were not for release of ego and suppression of the id stealing a few of my lives i'd probably be able to make it through koishi for sure, but on most runs those two take away a few lives from me and then i have to play perfectly to get some resources back in time for genetics

>>25820389
Those two cards are very practicable imo, and they're mainly a matter of not panicking while getting into the rhythm at the start. Funnily enough they're one of the few parts of that stage that I can do somewhat consistently.

Bump

i'm pretty sure i've done more on PoFV than this but i can't recall, but here's where i'm at now
i used to be an easy modo baby but i can 1cc normal now, although i usually just barely clear it with no resources left

>>25855941
Try 4, 10 and 17 on normal

>>25856023
i can get to kanako's last spell consistently but it always destroys me

bump

>>24987140
I suck at Touhou games...

>>25855941

>>25888080
whoops, i didn't even realize

>>25391646
IT'S FINALLY FUCKING OVER!!!
At in the other shots that I tried this on and it comes just short of 4500 attempts on this hell pattern

>>25900043
My chart as of now.

>>25900043
>19 days and 3 hours ago
Anon...this is not healthy...

>>25900741
Man's gotta have a hobby

>>25900741
Actually I had just got it after not doing it for weeks
I'd been on and off doing PDH for a while now

>>25900741
healthiness didn't build rome, anon

Should I just give up?

>>25902922
Absolutely not. You're about to get it. Use more bombs.

>>25903010
Maybe. I just feel like my major problem is making dumbass mistakes. Stage 1 and stage 2 are burned into my eyes from how many times I restart, but I'll still fuck up and run into a bullet on stage 2.

>>25900741
Diagnose me next, doc.

>>25900043
>>25900258
That's amazing anon!!!!

>>25908467
Why not just 1cc a game at this point. Would probably be faster

>>25819960
>>25820063
fox status: beaten
should i hurt myself with phantasm or should i move on to something else before returning?

>>25915619
Nice. Phantasm isn't that much harder than Extra. Some of the stage portion and a couple of Yukari's cards require different strategy, but a lot is the same, so you might as well try it while everything is fresh in your head.

>>25903862
Maybe take a break then. For a week, at most. Or, bomb the stage portions where you usually crash into bullets, if there are any "usual" spots.

>>25916506
hmmmm those differences are rather annoying
weirdly enough though, boundary of curve and straight line is way easier than ran's equivalent. yukari gives you plenty of breathing room while ran chokes you out

>>25913946
Faster for what?

Am I just shit or are the PC98 touhou games harder than the windows ones? excluding stuff like Subterranean Aneurysm and LOLK of course.

>>25916913
Thanks for the advice. I stopped being greedy with my bombs and I've made it back to Kanako consistently a few times now, instead of banging my head against the wall repeatedly.

>>25920628
>Am I just shit or are the PC98 touhou games harder than the windows ones?
I'm going to say neither (at least if we're talking about SoEW, LLS, and MS. PoDD is lol phantasmagoria and HRtP is in a different genre). PC-98 and current Touhou are different enough that I can understand having difficulty trying to translate modern 2hu to PC-98.
PC-98 boss patterns are much more honest (?), making them feel more reminiscent of classic shmup patterns.
Just keep working at it anon. You'll get used to the awkward slowness and weird bullet movements.

>>25920628
MS is pretty tough, almost EoSD level
LLS not so much, it gives out a huge amount of resources. but it does have arguably the hardest EX in the series
PoDD extremely difficult
Can’t speak for 2 though, never played it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5W-1MHn0bnQ&t=16m45s
wtf

>>25941683
lazy goddess completely fucking destroyed by the poverty miko

Just cleared SA. How am I doing so far?

>>25941683
Hitting with the main shot from above makes you do less damage? Or the back options deal much less damage if you’re up close? Brilliant.

Does SA MarisaB have the same problem?

>>25956278
So... did you clear that extra with wolf, otter or eagle?

>>25961038
Wolf.

>>25642280
Update to my SA clear. I picked up LoLK and did 2 normal point device clear with Reisen and Reimu in order to familiarize myself with the game. At first I thought this would be virtually impossible to get a normal 1 CC in the usual mode without greatly improving my current level, I was so wrong. I can confidently say that a normal 1 CC on SA in far far harder than a normal 1 CCon LoLK due to Reisen's shield and the graze mecanics which puts me to the maximum amout of life at fucking stage 3. Even facing clownpiece or junko, you literally sustain one life for every 3 cards considering that you have 3 bombs for every lives and that 3 bombs make you tank 3 hits.

If you manage to get to clownpiece with 8 lives and 3 bombs, you can literally tank 80 hits. 80 fucking hits while still sustaining lives. This graze mecanics and Reisen's bombs allows everyone to cheat their way through very easily, such a thing would be impossible in SA.

Dare I say it? Even IN is harder than this game if you use bombs (still the hardest without any bombs obviously)

>>25967163
Except Reisen's bomb doesn't save you from lasers, and if anything makes several sections and cards harder.
No mainline game, and not even Yousei Daisensou, is harder to 1cc. Certainly not Chireiden, which gets hyped up a lot but really isn't that difficult on Normal.

>>25967163
I still find SA to be the hardest game just to lunatic 1cc, UFO. DDC, and LoLK are crazy but you can just flat out skip the games if you get a decent amount of resources

>>25969500
SA is an incredibly stupid game once you watch a replay and see all the dumb safespots there are.

>>25970244
and you don't even need those if just pick aya and bomb.

>>25968676
>No mainline game, and not even Yousei Daisensou, is harder to 1cc.
Yo whatever you're doing that's making a game like UFO or SA easier than LoLK, please tell me, because what you said makes no sense otherwise. Even LoLK Lunatic with Reisen is easier than most hards.

>>25970523
Even Aya is still kind of gimped, without her bombs the shot type just isn't that strong especially as power goes down. I found ReimuA and ReimuC averaged out to about the same difficulty for this reason.

>>25972301
if you route bombs and fully abuse them (immediately on top of boss with both streams hitting, misdirecting the following attack whenever possible), aya has a significantly easier clear. if you're relying on raw shot damage, you're doing it wrong, since we aren't talking about nb-ing. the game shits enough power (and lives) at you for that to not be an issue for a basic clear. there's always the silly nododge replay to illustrate this.

for a personal anecdote, aya made the game easy enough that i was able to squeak out a lnm (with thorough routing and practicing) a couple years ago. i was nowhere near being able to do that with yukari.

>>25972618
Routing in itself is a challenge that most average lunatic players are just not that great at. It reminds of the Sanae miss/bomb every chapter run in lolk. It looks really easy but is actually much harder than it looks just because you have to stick to that route like glue.
I don’t know though, maybe EoSD is the hardest game by virtue of having no real cheese to speak of

>>25980338
Master Spark?

>>25980906
Master spark is only considered cheese because the other bombs of EoSD are just comparatively weak, in modern touhou basically every bomb is an instaskip. Also general resource limitation/degree of rng which means your bombs aren't going to be as planned makes it not as cheesy

What causes the MarisaA misaligned laser glitch to happen in DDC? It keeps happening in stage 3 for me. Is there a patch that fixes it?

>>25980338
the routing i was talking about wasn't particularly demanding on execution. i'd still bomb the end of the long section in stage four, for instance. i meant stuff like learning stage three and yuugi well enough that you only need to bomb the midboss spell (probably, since gaps are still tight), end of the stage, and the second and (potentially, if gaps are tight) third boss spells.

that just takes a little extra time and effort, not additional skill (if you're at lunatic level, at least). if folks can clear a game without going that extra mile, or if they simply don't want to abuse a game's mechanics to get a clear, hey, more power to them. i mean, i refuse to use safe spots (scoring aside). but i'm not going to ignore them when talking about the difficulty of a basic clear. same thing has to apply to abusing a game's mechanics. i'm sure that everyone misses some tricks here and there, but once you know about aya, then you know that the clear isn't as hard as it previously seemed.

and i know your eosd comment was hyperbole, because eosd definitely isn't the hardest, but that game has its share of cheese, too. don't like stage five? don't like eternal meek? skip 'em!

>>25971638
Both of those games are perfectly doable without cheesing any one shot type's gimmick. In Chireiden, Yukari does make stage 5 easier, but even without her, you gain plenty of resources from the easy first four stages. In Seirensen, no matter which you use, having a good UFO route is way more important. And while both of them have a difficulty spike at stage 5, that's where they peak.
Kanjuden is balanced around Pointdevice to begin with, and Clownpiece is retardedly difficult even considering that, and there's no reprieve afterward since even the stage portion of 6 is difficult. I just don't see how you're getting enough resources to last through two solid stages and bosses worth of bullshit, especially since Reisen's bomb does no damage.
>Even LoLK Lunatic with Reisen is easier than most hards.
What are you basing this claim on, since unless I'm misunderstanding, you don't have any Hard or Lunatic clears?

>>25916506
>>25917345
i can get as far as boundary of humans and youkai before i choked but that was just being stupid, i probably could have made it through that
thing is shikigami "ran yakumo" ate a lot of my resources. chen was much easier to handle because of the fixed pattern, but routing ran around is a lot harder

>>25985027
Your points are pretty fair but with your perspective id like to know what you think are actually hardest games to l1cc. The top 3 from the whole series.

I did it bros
I can say this is probably one of the easiest l1ccs but god damn if this game didn't give you so many resources it'd be brutal. The rank doesn't fuck around
>kurumi rings
>elly's mid patterns
>stage 4 midboss, inverted section afterwards
>stage 5 rings of death
>master spark
>s6 yuuka opener
>yuuka's final
this shit is nasty, add those up to the various BS deaths you'll probably accumulate and I can see why nobody can LNN this

Do you guys happen to have days when you just feel like shit for no reason and your reaction on touhou is like reduced by 30%? Playing without any perspective of clearing feels depressing but I can't manage to get my shit together, I'm just stuck in the mud with a brain fog

>>26025006
Yes, altho it seems to only affect touhou and not the other game I play, happened recently while trying WBaWC. As bad as it may sound, best option in that situation is to stop as soon as you understand what's going on and try again hours later or the next day.

>>26025133
Just after writing my post I switched from Reimu B to Marisa B (EOSD) for my first hard clear because of the laziness and managed to clear it. Even with a huge brain fog the gap between those two shots is fucking insane

Did you guys got worse at the games/genre as you got older?

I don't think it'd be worth making one for me
I've only played SA
did Marisa A on lunatic. took me a few hours a day working at it but i 1cc'd it.

Infinite Blade Pavilion got released today.
Is it any good? I'll probably play it later tonight, when I have time to play through a full game a couple of times.
https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/20533

>>26028395
I got way better as I got older because I became smarter with practicing. Some tricks I thought were impossible to learn only took a few tries to get down because of the practice patch, most notably in PCB.

>>25856023
>>25858190
well i 1cc'd WBaWC normal but i hardly call that an achievement because it's the easiest game imaginable. i only left off from it because i kept frustrating myself trying to be too cool to gimp out of difficulties
play it safe though and you hardly even notice you're at keiki already

dodonpachi anon here, i have recording of me LLS on lunatic no bomb no miss run 1cc every character, where can i upload

>>26035973
youtube

>>26035973
holy fuck anon, I said that as a joke, I didn't think you would actually do it
if you really did nmnb it, congratulations, you are the first to do it in the last 22 years. how was it? please tell

>>26035973
OK buddy that's nice and all so are you prepared to prove it? If you need a place to upload your Epic Legit Play, that would be YouTube. Where else do you expect to get clout from a cheated run from?

>>26035973
I can't say for certain until I see the video but it's extremely unlikely someone just comes along and knocks it out like that.
If it's real, congrats, if it's not, make it convincing.

>>26031318
yes it's fun. suffers from visual clutter tho especially towards the end.
shottypes are rather weird but work well enough and are a nice change. release mechanic that's used largely to clear the screen and spawn score items. I haven't quite figured out how you get resources but you get em either way. Youmu is a pretty brainy shot and uses the fdf way of sword slashing where you repress shoot to trigger it.

The stages themselves are themed like SA. you descend into a hole, end up in some kind of town, then the temple and end close to the earths molten core. bosses are themed differently and it looks different than og SA but the references in stage design like the talisman fairies in stage 4 are there nonetheless.
Definitely worth to play if you enjoy fangames.

Controlling my rage taught me how far I could go withou relying on throwing lives at some parts. Don't give in !
Still had to vent after dying to Yuyuko's last spell

PoFV Lunatic 1CC get!

>>26063729
props for not using aya or medicine

In Ten Desires Stage 4, is there usually a wave of spirits that spawn in the bottom corners after the midboss? I thought it was 3 waves of fairy spam to build a trance up.

>>26067348
They only show up if you defeat midboss Seiga quick enough. They're pretty annoying to deal with so I just time down her midspell to around 10 seconds or so and then finish it off.

>>26067413
I see, I really thought something was up since it's only happened once. Thanks anon

>>26067413
I just trance it, the fairies spam gives enough to build up 3 bars for the end

>>26067558
You can do that too but I always found it more convenient to save that trance for the resource fairies just before the midboss + the midboss nonspell itself (on Lunatic I was always garbage at dodging that consistently), then timing down the spell to avoid the spirits.

I'm off WBaWC's wild ride. Until I decide to come back to get LNB or something at least

>>26067812
congrats anon
what other lunatics have you done? what do you want to do next?

>>26068363
Thanks!
>what other lunatics have you done?
see >>25227797
>what do you want to do next?
and I'll try to do MoF and maaaybe LoLK now

>>26068558
have you tried LLS and MS? If you like EoSD you should enjoy those two as well

>>26068809
I like MS quite a bit, I dont include them because despite trying multiple options and configs, pc98 emulators dont run very well in my machine, just like danmakufu games

>>26064245
I'll do them later, maybe. I always do my first 1CC with Marisa.

Is this a 1cc? I still got normal ending 5, but I didnt press continue

>>26082747
Yes anon, you didnt continue nor used extra lives, so it is, good job!

>>26083285
niceeee

part sisyphus, part charlie brown

>>25983612
Still waiting for an answer to this.

Also, I lost to Sukuna's last spell on Lunatic with MarisaA and almost timed out like 5 attacks without meaning to. Does ZUN even playtest his games anymore? Even her shotgun damage sucks ass because you have to be a couple pixels under the boss to do the same damage as ReimuA can from afar.