/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>32056063
Chinese knockoff

>>32056063
It was harsh on her, she only gained 5K new subscribers today.

>>32056063
Pray for the Anal Tenshi

>>32056063
Scum and a leech.

Chinese worshiper thread !!!

vtuber drama is always blown out of proportion. like roa/meiro over a speaking tic that led to narukami driving a girl to suicide, or haachama over google analytics that somehow led to a virtual war between nations.

>>32057569
But why does it always get blown out of proportion though.

https://iketog.com/amatukauto_zense/#toc4
She's cute, bros. Imma whiteknighting for her.

>>32057569
>uto is a leech
>EVERYONE LEECHES
>this uto drama attracted quite a number of people
>EVERY VTUBER DRAMA ARE OVER THE TOP
I don't know what this is called but definitely some excuses you made for her.

>>32058547
It's basically something called 'cope'.

>>32058547
Tbf he has a point, but thats gonna be enough to turn back Uto's yab. Even small indies leeched Hololive at some point, but they usually just play the same FOTM they play or draw them in drawing streams, but admitting Ame as her sister and following her on Twitter when she is a literal who to Ame is just....next level? I wouldn't call it bad, like Utokeks said its a business move, yada yada, but its obviously playing with fire especially with how dangerous cancel culture for vtubers can be

>>32058753
How new?

>>32057569
This drama is peanuts compared all of the others.
Y'all have to calm your tits down

Has she answered yet?

>>32056063
i've unsubbed and disliked every single video, i really liked her image as this pure and cute angel, but seeing her disrespect a fellow artist like that just doesn't sit right with me.
its good to see that the japanese audience still has a spine compared to western paypiggies.

>>32059098
based, Uto would like someone like you

>>32058753
>but admitting Ame as her sister and following her on Twitter when she is a literal who to Ame is just....next level?

Kana did that too, and yet I've never seen a post saying she is leeching from Gura.

>>32059173
you can't be a leech if you didn't suck anything

When will she do footjobs?
Cmon tenshi, everyone wants to fuck your feet

>>32059098
Lol, you fell for peer pressure too easily. Every Marketing department in the world would have a field day with people like you.

>>32058930
The worst yab will always be Kizuna Ai.

>>32059173
The other anon, responded well, so I'll give another point. Uto's fans are also the culprit, since they advertise Uto as Ame's sister in Reddit, both in vtuber and Hololive subreddit. Like I said, while I think its scummy to advertise that way, I'm not going to mind too much other than playing along with the other anons here who are laughing about her being a leech, but know that she is playing with fire by doing so.

>>32057569
Wait, the Roa/Meiro drama ended up with someone dying?

>ghosted an artist, only paid him after he made it an issue
>said artist publicized their conversation
>5ch smelled blood and started digging deeper
>found out that she is a fake indie that was backed by Chinese company
Some anon in the last thread pointed out that the timing for her transition and the Chinese chasing out hololive from China met. China really is trying to break into the vtb scene.

>>32058590
Lmao you are right.

>Narukami's comment on the 1500yen Amazon Giftcard is "安い"
Made me chuckled. He is alright sometimes.

>>32059369
Uto is Ame's sister, by the definition of parent as artist. It doesn't mean they are in the same corporation, or buddy-buddy, or that they work together. It literally just means they have the same artist, and it is entirely correct to describe Uto as such.

In fact, Uto is the only case where people throw an irrational fit over sisterhood. Kana, Moona's sister (who she collabs with) etc. are all described as sisters to another vtuber.

>>32059787
>>found out that she is a fake indie that was backed by Chinese company
Proof?

>>32059787
..and still not single proof in any single thread beyond the artist

>>32060058
He will say "read the archives" or something, but there is none.

>>32060058
Don't bother. It's the same rrat that has been posting the same messages since the last few threads. They have already mutated into Xi Jinping infiltrating the holo scene with CCP operatives and you will be speaking Mandarin next week.

>>32059979
Described is fine to an extent, but when you have her fans went 'Watch her, she is Ame but seiso' and spamming the vtuber subreddit with her posts, its gonna tick off some people somehow.

>>32060080
>>32060058
>>32060067
Literally inside the archives. Some nips got their twitter handle on.

>>32060101
Wrongly exaggerate the issue won't make the facts go away.

>>32060205
Glad we confirmed you're the rrat. The amount of evidence in your post is: zero.

>>32059787
>>32060058
And now she ghosted a musician. It is indeed in the archives. Whiteknights are allegic to the posts itself and the evidence about China so they never quote the original posts. They will just quote the compilation of yabee and ask "proofs" think they can fool anyone
>>32052694
>>32047335

>>32060205
Having someone help her with social media doesn't prove she's backed by a Chinese company you dumbass. Post actual proof or fuck off.

>>32060309
Like clockwork.

>>32056063
You people still making threads about this cutthroat leech? Flithy bluepill addicts.

>>32060480
Why are you even here then, dumbass?

https://twitter.com/kuroh728/status/1348441513190019073
>I have read many of the replies and videos.
>I made a lot of mistakes in this case, and I deeply regret that I did not draw up a contract and neglected the basics of a paid commission.
>In addition, I will make sure to present the price of the illustration after careful consideration so that other artists will not be inconvenienced.
>I apologize for this.

>>32060194
>she is Ame but seiso
And, this is entirely correct? I see the similarity in their visual design, as well as the stark difference in their personalities. I would be splitting hairs to disagree with this statement.

>watch her
So your beef is with people who enthusiastically recommend you something? The feeling of annoyance is understandable, but that is how recommendations work. Sometimes you find another nice thing, and sometimes it's just not your cup of tea.

The only thing i've found in the archives about chinese company is that nabi only accept a commission from a company. anymore than this?

>>32060779
I thought Nabi stopped taking individuals after Uto due to everyone wanting to follow her lead

>>32060631
question is, did uto make an apology like that of her own?

>>32060631
Now Uto has to release a public apology too, or it's really not going to look good for her.

>>32060693
>And, this is entirely correct?
Not really. Unless you mean she's a seiso chuuba that has sameface with Ame.
Other than that they are absolutely nothing alike. Besides the sameface, they are visually nothing alike either. They don't even speak the same languages, so that promotional slogan was always quite deceptive.

>>32060058
>Proof?
there is none

>>32060631
>no mention about releasing private conversations and starting a harassment campaign over a done deal.

>>32060914
Probaby still gauging all the different reactions in town, and how to react. There are rabid Narukami JP fans, but most overseas fans after hearing the story are still okay with it.

>>32061213
Why should apologize for something he's not sorry about?

>>32061230
so now she's trying to mimic Cover's horrible response time as well?

>>32061132
> Unless you mean she's a seiso chuuba that has sameface with Ame.
Yes, it is what it means, so you are just agreeing with me in a roundabout way.
>Besides the sameface, they are visually nothing alike either.
You can't "besides" away the main point though. The nabi sameface is the similarity. If Nabi had copied even the paraphernalia, people would be calling that lazy and complaining about that too.

>>32060693
All Uto antis are holofags who obsess over numbers like if they're investors lol just ignore the Teacucks it's all in bad faith

>>32061851
I'm sure there are bitter one-sided fans, but many like me are both Ame and Uto watchers.

>>32061851
utoshills are also holofags who obsess over numbers. They're a plague who spread everywhere you look.

>>32059787
>>found out that she is a fake indie that was backed by Chinese company
for real? time to destroy another indie pussy

>>32060693
you can whiteknight, what that doesnt change the fact there is gonna be a bloodbath and you cant do anything

>>32061230
>most overseas fans after hearing the story are still okay with it.
clearly you are still in your safe space, dont cry later

Let's compile what we've got so far.

1. During past life
>Uto (at that time named Aizawa) had a fallout with previous team over some issue, she slandered her previous colleagues (at the time this happened they still worked together), retaliated by them
>Doxx from all sides followed by that, a shitshow ensued
>only stopped once the team leader threatened to dox Uto's boyfriend (which he never went through)
2. During transition
>audition in hololive but failed
that can never be confirmed or denied due to the nature of NDA, so we will never know. Also this is the only iffy part of them all and the only one that sounds like pure rumors due to the timeline, but it is possible that she did audition behind her teammate's back.
>scouted by Chinese company
This is where people said she is a fake indie, as she actually has a company behind her back with people handling her logistics and given ideas
>finding an artist which has ties with hololives to do a redesign for her
And Nabi took the bite.
>posting her redesign with Ame beside her on twitter
Might be a strategy made by Chinese company and agreed by her personally
3. At redebut
Saying it is a redebut because she used her old Youtube account, which still have considerable followers, just completely wiped of content and changed her name
>using hololive related thumbnails
>using hololive metatags
Aggressive marketing using hololive brand, again a strategy crafted by her team. Together with the shameless use of Ame beside her in her tweet, this is where the term "Chinese knockoff" came from
>ghosted an artist, never pay for the art until it was made into a big issue
which was covered by a few drama vtubers. 5ch also started digging up her dirt mentioned above because that incident brought her to light in the Japanese community.

Hope I didn't miss anything.

>>32061563
What I'm saying is, that besides giving a meme recommendation, "Seiso Ame" was always a disingenuous slogan. Because the only connecting thread was the sameface.
Uto and Ame's faces are very similar, but not entirely. Kana and Gura also have very similar faces. Do you think it's justifiable to go promoting Kana as the "Fox Gura", or whatever, don't really watch Kana? It doesn't matter how different Kana is from Gura, right?
Not saying you're not allowed to do it, but the connection is so slim, that the fans who did that, almost certainly were doing it disingenuously. They didn't care that the connection was extremely superficial, and were just hoping to boost Uto by connecting her as much as possible to Ame.

Imagine the feeling of busting your fattest nut inside Uto's asshole. Just unloading everything your ballsacks been producing in there, leaving a thick sticky goopy mess deep into her guts. Imagine the sensation of that, the feeling of release inside the hole she poops from.

>>32061230
Anon, this is not the Hero Hei case where absolutely everyone outside his fanbase hates him. NRKM has people who support his content even among Redditors, one guy actually posted a fanart of him once

>>32062988
You forgot the most recent one - she ghosted a musician.

>>32062988
- Which group she used to be in? I dont know about vtuber groups than Nanashi, Idolbu, Gamebu, Hololive and Nijisanji.
- Which CN company that have her back? Ichikara also have a CN company connection that can easily be known by going to their company profile, so I'm wondering if she is the same case

>>32062988

1. Previous life stuff
>>32026447
>>32029866
>>32032229
>>32055826

2. During her redebut
>fake indie
>>32050142
>>32050732
>>32052694

3. After rebranding/redebut
>>32018435
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXK6W2-GuH0
Narukami's take. It has basically all the stuff happened after her redebut
>using hololive related thumbnails /metatags
>ghosting the artist

The only part that is rumor is the audition, which was the chain post in this
>>32027578
>>32027630
>>32027703

>>32063146
Oh ya forgot about that

Musician
>>32047335
And also this guy point to it >>32060373
>>32063242 also additional info in the last post of the last thread about China >>32055925

>>32061851
you antis are kinda funny, I dont give a shit about this indie but now I wish she get crushed

>>32063242
She is faking indie of course she is not going to disclose which company that supports her. My guess is that it is a branch of Chinese tech people and PR supports funded by bilibili since it is the most suspicious company out of the whole Taiwan debacle. The owner of NGA is suspicious too because NGA was the initial instigator of all these, and there should be some way for them to gain benefit out of all these.

>>32063019
>a meme recommendation
You keep "besides"-ing the main point. It is indeed a meme that people jokingly use. Ironically the people who like to use it the most are Ame fans, because it is fun for them. Officially, the mods and tenshimps have always said people should look at Uto for who she is instead of mentioning other vtubers. But that didn't stop Teamates from getting excited when Uto did an evil laugh. Because it is a fun meme for them. You think there is malice here, when there is none.

Calling Kana Gura's sister or cat gura is entirely fine, and I have seen people do that when recommending Kana to their friends on discord. The connection to Gura is a hook, but the hook does not make people stay. I'll still form my own judgment after watching Kana in stream (and I did). Personally, I think her facial rigging is not very expressive. But she can speak English decently well. It is still up to her to earn those subs.

>>32057569
only chads deserve the name Narukami, not this dude

>>32063717
NGA is raising a fuss too? Thats weird, V8 hasn't address anything yet, I'll check their subreddit later

>>32061851
As much as we Holofags dont like how she and her fans does things we dont wish shit for her. I know because I tried riling up people in hlg to 'raid' someone before and they all choose to not do anything

>>32059619
No.

>>32063442
well, it seems she is in deep shit now

>>32063442
I wonder what sex with Uto was like.

>>32063442
so how do you think this is gonna end?

Why are condommates always so bitter and angry?

>>32057569
>like roa/meiro over a speaking tic
Nigga, Roa was the one that started this shit and kept going full gas.

>>32063442
Let's look at your "fake indie" evidence, because already there are people who think something is proven.

>>32050142
This is just a bunch of hunches and should-bes. Nabi is famous. Therefore there "should be" a company behind Uto. Therefore? The company should be Chinese. That kind of logical leaps make my sides hurt.

>>32050732
Oh look, it is the one rrat that always wrote "UTO" in all caps and called her bitch etc. Apparently him stating something is true means it must be true.

>>32052694
This is the only thing that has actual meat. It says there is a staffer managing her Twitter. You know who else has a staffer? Ina. And many other vtubers. Uto's staff could be anyone, from her infamous sister, to the editor she had hired in her past life. That doesn't mean it is a Chinese company backed by CCP.

And let's say we drop the stupid "Chinese company" thing, and assume she has her own team of staffers. That would make her the same as many vtubers, who have their own teams (especially news / political youtubers). Those guys are still classified as indie, until they work with like CNN or something.

You may still prove she is fake indie. But no evidence has been shown here.

>be Aizawa
>can't work properly in a team, resulting in a doxxing shitshow from all parties
>only stopped ripping shits apart when former team leader threatened to dox your boyfriend
>at the same time, went for audition behind the team's back
>failed because Yagoo can see through your black heart
>panik, wanted money but hate your teammates, can't sell your body because BF is not into NTR stuff
>a Chinese company is currently scouting for any leftover vtuber from hololive's audition
>instantly volunteer
>gets the money from the Chinks, but you must fake indie, cannot expose them
>was also threatened to get 100k followers at least in a month, or else the Chinks are going to turn you into bat soup and feed their kind
>hunts around for artists who designed hololive just to get semblance of relation with it for instant number
>most artists refused to design for her as she only offered them 1500 yen Amazon gift cards
>told Nabi the full story including the Chinese company, the fake indie and the bat soup, cried during the process
>Nabi was moved by the sob story and agreed, but for a price, instantly accepted the price as you have no time left
>GOTTA GO FAST GOTTA GO FAST
>first thing is to rebrand your old channel, the Chink aint know shit so they thought you are the real deal with thousands of followers even before debut
>after debut, started to leech from hololive with similar thumbnails, hololive metatags
>she knew people wouldn't suspect a thing if she just delete them later on
>started to have more success than you could possibly handle because you are leeching off hololive brand
>get complacent, started to ghost and unfollow every single one of your old fans because they made you remember your dirty past
>some artist you barely remember came to demand payment that you promised
>checked the chat history, OH SHIT something like this happened?
>"Oh sorry, I was busy counting my superchat money so I forgot"
>quickly paid the artist before it became an issue
>the artist ratted you out anyway
>5ch got the hold of situation and started digging things out
>now another musician you ghosted is coming at you
>all of them are in Japanese while your main audience are from SEA and NA
>"Surely they won't know about all these right?" you thought to yourself nervously "They will still give me superchat right?" with your fingers trembling.

>>32057569
>narukami driving a girl to suicide
Who?

>>32064489
cope more, its getting funny

>>32064489
>b-bunch of hunches and speculations only!
>this is the real meat! Oh wait but it actually is a nothingburger!
Everything is a nothing burger to you.

>>32064603
Kek. I like how the storytelling of the situation changes each time new information arised. It is a good way to get newfags into the situation if they ignored the exaggeration.

https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q11225673446
this has a concise summary, translated with some help of deepl

>How it all started
N and A weren't getting along too well.
U (the leader): "Please get along!"

>One day
A: "U-san, can I have an editor?
U: "No! It's hard to get an editor!
A: "I understand..."

>A gets an editor on her own without telling U
U: Why did you lie to me! We don't need liars! I don't want liars! (for various reasons, but this is the main one)

>A withdraws from the group
She releases an apology statement which also reveals her age.
Since N and A happen to be the same age, N's age is "revealed" too
U gets mad and fights with A on Twitter

>Several days later
Some whistleblower revealed that N made some abusive comments.
In the meantime, A put out her list of complaints towards the group including
- 21:00 to 24:00 hours for participation increasingly becoming a pain
- She wasn't included into their LINE group
- She did not receive the editing software other members promised to hand over to her
- She did not receive all of the roles needed on the group's discord
- She wanted to manage YT analytics for her own account

U brushed off the complaints, saying "he was busy" for half of them

>U's comment that caused him to be attacked by others
In retaliation for "revealing" N's age, U also threatened to reveal A's "boyfriend"
This is a kind of blackmail, so I guess sentiment turned against him there

And then, N's own moderator revealed she said abusive comments towards him.
N instantly dumped that moderator afterwards.
U on the incident: While it's good he wasn't lying, I shouldn't have relied on him to begin with.

>This answerer's own thoughts
"I really don't think the last part is a joke. If you look at the comment section on Twitter, you can see how I feel.
I'm sorry if I've left out some things or misunderstood some things.
It's just that, I don't know if there's any need to beat up on A any more, and that I think U and N were at fault too"

>>32064489
of course its rumors and circumstancial evidence, but the conclusions seem pretty logical, especially the one about her being backed by a company. you sound like one of those fags that were still in denial about artia and co instigating antis.

>>32064603
>Surely they won't know about all these right?
Right? lol

>>32063019
Uto's fans are fake and dishonest, just like her. And this is a fact.

>>32064376
Badly?

>>32064622
no one, if narukami actually drove a girl to suicide he would be cancelled instantly

>>32060080
>>32060309
AHAHAHAAH JUST BTFO BY THIS BRO
>>32062988
>>32063442

>>32064811
Artia has screenshots and online posts people can look at. That is why people can produce all those proof images. You picked a poor example for comparison.

>>32064953
No? That's not actual proof you dumb schizo.
>>32064489

>>32064987
yes, and here >>32052694 we have a evidence showing she has some kind of staff and nabi not working for individuals makes sense too, so we can conclude there is a company behind her.

>>32063954
>NGA is raising a fuss too
No they are not. If they really want to fake an indie they should lay low for now. What I mean was that during the start of the Taiwan debacle, they instantly locked all holo girls' individual threads, deleted those who were neutral or supportive of Coco. Basically encouraged harrassment to Coco. Strangely they deleted the ones for Haato too, both for and against her. They most likely wanna focus fire on Coco right from the start.

>>32065044
>cherrypicked a few posts
>oh they are all non consequential anyway!
Sure buddy.

>utoshills dropping their baseless pasta until they convince themselves their tenshi is still pure
I see nothing's changed in this thread, kek

>>32065114
you expecto too much of them, they are brainwashed bugs after all

>>32065156
>cherrypicking posts
>they are the posts that were brought up by the other retard and used as "proof"

>>32065112
That was already addressed in >>32064489. Do you even bother to read the conversation above?

>>32065112
I haven't seen anything indicate that was a chinese company.

>>32065333
Literally all the proofs from here >>32063442 and only a few are picked. How is this not cherry picking?

I want to cum on her feet

>>32065339
you're singling out posts and treating them as if they dont relate to eachother, sure the screenshot itself doesn't give enough evidence of her being backed by a real company, but in conjunction with knowing that high profile artists won't risk their reputation on random indies, it becomes a lot more certain.
i also agree that its all speculation, but it has enough circumstancial evidence to make it worth discussing and not dismissing it entirely.
>>32065379
i agree

>>32065443
He was addressing the fake indie shit, which is what >>32064953 referred to as well. Not sure what you're struggling to understand, just read the whole chain.

So is the indie already dead or what?

>>32065565
>indie
Yes it is, now that we know it is supported by a Chinese company kek.

>>32065562 see >>32065156

>>32065711
>>32064953
>>32064783
>>32064603
>>32064489
>>32063442
>>32062988
>>32061851

>>32065534
>i also agree that its all speculation, but it has enough circumstancial evidence to make it worth discussing and not dismissing it entirely.
The point is examine how credible or complete the evidence is. All the CCP trolling aside, nothing is known at this point besides she has a team. And there is a lot of trolling going on, so it is worthwhile pointing out what is definite, if only to help some clueless readers who don't recognize which posters are trolling.

>>32065919
>trolling
Are we back in 2010 or something?

The fact that the thread is far faster than other threads aside from hololive threads shows that she's pretty much on the spotlight still. This is good advertisement for her.

>>32065919
It is not speculation though. Stop replying to yourself and start reading what is actually written.

>>32065510
Her feet probably smell really bad anon

>>32066034
pwned
go back

>>32066034
Not him but which word replaces the "trolling" word already?
Sorry, I'm not 4chan zoomer.

All this just for one 1500 yen Amazon gift card, was it really worth it?

>>32065639
Chinese? that was unexpected, anyway this is kinda entertaining

>>32066090
>China
>good advertisement
really nigga?

so all this talk about "transition" and being referred to as "he" is she a tranny?

>>32064603
>that amazon gift is still word for word from previous pasta

>>32066215
Dishonest cheapskate got what's coming.

>>32064603
>someone out there in the world actually spared some of their time and typed all of this

>>32066435
I just got a boner

>>32066597
Don't you see this kind of thing from time to time in your own thread Miofag?

>>32064603
>"They will still give me superchat right?"
You're goddamn right I will Tenshi!

>>32065919
>if only to help some clueless readers who don't recognize which posters are trolling.
good bait

im NEVER EVER supporting an indie.
call cover a black company all you want but at least you can assure that
>it's chink free
>hololive's scouting team (best part of cover) did their due diligence, etc.

>>32066729
Based.

>>32066957
UUUOOOHHH GOTTA SIMP

When will this time loop end?

>>32063740
I wrote a massive wall of text, but realised it got really autistic. So here is the abbreviation, and I'll stop.
You said that it's "entirely correct" to call her "seiso Ame" simply because of the sameface.
I sympathise with people who said it, because "seiso chuuba with Ame's illustrator" or "seiso chuuba with a face similar to Ame's" are much larger mouthfuls. But in the end "seiso Ame" is ONLY correct as a meme.
And the point of the original anon (I think) is that the meme got repeated so much, that it is perfectly understandable, why people would get annoyed by it. People who did not care for Uto, thought it was demeaning to Ame, when the phrase "seiso Ame" implied that only thing there was to care about Ame was her face. And it was not, in fact, "correct". It is correct only as a meme, in the same way it is correct as a meme to say that Artemis is a brash Gura, because they are both sharks.

>>32067000
>supporting an entertainer you like is bad

>>32066916
>it's chink free
They literally do a fucking purge for that to happen.

>>32067018
I will help you
*deep breath*
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>>32067094
>Kiara
>Mori

>>32066729
I will too and write about the chinese comp

>>32066215
Do all the people who fanned the drama and blew the story about a late payment out of all proportions, think it was worth it?
I honestly just enjoy all the feigned outrage.

>>32067201
I don't care about that. I'm not here to argue about these allegations surrounding Uto. Just talking with that one anon.

>>32059173
They make fun of her failed attempts to leech of Gura in hlgg.

>>32067238
What I mean is all these things digged out here because she thought she could get away with ghosting an artist. If she covered her track properly it shouldn't be a problem. But I guess if you've done too much bad stuff some of them will bite you in the ass anyway.

>>32067104
yes they did, and they did a good job fumigating the insects in hololive(CN branch). your point?

>>32067201
are these uto's tags?

>>32059619
Taking someone defending Tenshi seriously.

My skeb request of Tenshi being touched by an office lady got approved. I hope they don't cancel.

>>32067409
Just saying lol. So no point.

no stream anymore? any updates?

>>32067201
>>32067409

Let me also introduce you the world of metatags. And wow everybody else just uses them. Back then, Choco-sensei from hololive also used Nijisanji metatags. Let me also say this is how they are meant to be used.

Metatags are not directly visible to users, and are only meant for the AI, to target a relevant demographic like with facebook ads.

>>32066090
Sub rate went down a lot, so idk about that

>>32067594
Hoshitkawa is literally related to hololive even if I don't want to admit it.

>>32067533
Noice.

>>32067594
>Choco-sensei from hololive also used Nijisanji metatags
This has been debunked like so many times, literally few threads ago mentioned it. She forgot to drop it after collab with nijisanji.

>>32067594
yeah and they got canceled by japs

>>32066435
JOPs using translators kek

>>32067594
>whiteknight for a known leech
ngmi

>>32066090
Eh......................... Are you really sure about that? It's only 2 groups of people circlejerking each other.

>>32062988
So it is settled once and for all? Or are there anything more damning? Is the case closed?

>>32067907
There hasn't been any new info since the artist started his twitter drama. We are just bored.

>>32059979
Never before have I seen someone have to disown their "sister" for leeching.

https://streamable.com/gx2dyh

>>32067964
The musician

>>32067907
You should consider that, on the grand scale of things, this incident is actually minor, and only this place and some peeps at 5ch are making a big ruckus of it (like always).

>>32067594
Literally everyone who misused metatags get called out, and no one is shameless enough to use ALL of the metatags like her.

>>32068078
Japs are very particular about fake indies. It was a culture carried forward from the doujin circle.

>>32068009
God I hate that bitch. Couldn't she at least give Tenshi a pity fuck?

>>32068251
And also, Japs couldn't care less about Uto. And those who do care numbers below a hundred. So your point is?

>>32067907
We are not sure yet. Still not sure whether her Chinese company is related to the harassments of Coco or not.

>>32067721
No she isn't, you mentally ill monkey. Just because a bunch of retards on 4chan say she is doesn't make it true.

>>32065919
But why would you want to help clueless newfags. The number one rule in this place is to not take anything seriously unless paired with a reliable source, let alone spreading it in mainstream media.

>>32068587
Just pointing out why the Japs hate her.

>>32066597
Anon, this is 4ch.
>>3206672
Am an uto anti, but this is based.

>>32068637
I mean, this is the same place that insist that K**pa is a honorary EN, so...

>>32068637
Clearly you are too new to vtubing.
>>32068639
Stop replying to yourself.

>>32068009
Amelia is also a mom-groundpounding toxic gremblin that calls chat stupid. She is a Westerner so she can get away with that, and people even love it.

It's kinda funny how different the 5ch discussion is to this thread's. It's like you guys have completely different sources.

>>32068637
watch some matsuri

>>32068870
We're having a discussion?
Did I miss something?

>>32068874
Oh yas, now Imagine the amount of honorary hololivers just because they collabed/shared the same screen with each other.

>>32068009
based, she knows a rat when she sees one

>>32068810
I've known about the Mirai Akari clone since before you found this site. She has nothing to do with Hololive, no matter how much Haato and Matsuri suck her dick.

>>32068009
Takes one to know one, considering on how much Ame's been leeching off of Gura.

>>32068870
I feel like some people are trying too hard to force narratives here, which is whatever, but everyone is eating it up for some reason

>>32068870
They are literally discussing about her fake indie just like us.

>>32068772
Your fucked up link really lead to an interesting thread

>>32069176
Matsuri sucking her dick is already enough. I hate Matsuri for it but that is the truth.

>>32069234
Lol, this is some cope when Gura was the one to ask Ame for every collab they've done besides Apex.

>>32067713
sub rate was lower on 1/8 and 1/9 and actually went up on 1/10 where most of the heat happened and is now going to be higher this 1/11. So whether it's good or bad publicity, she's still getting good screen time. Anyone who'll support her will stay anyone who won't will not. New subs coming in is good for her.

I need to see her roommate before deciding whether I'm with her or against

>>32069234
This is fucking cope. Utofags are this stupid and delusional

>>32069520
i hope she looks like porka

>>32067907
It’s the same autistic jap schizos raiding. Nothing has changed.

>>32069377
THEN Ame gets a GOOD boost in subs and views almost always AFTER they collab, If anything, Ame benefits more from her collabs with Gura than Gura herself. That's a tried and true leeching technique, and she knows it too based on her community posts, twitter responses, etc.
It really runs in the family, I'm impressed.

>>32069697
Here's your (You). Try harder next time

>>32069697
>comparing Ame, who is in the same company as Gura with the leech
Utoshills can't be more desperate. Go be a leech somewhere else.

>>32069697
Fake narrative trying to change something? What's next? That you have watched all their streams and deduced that Ame is leeching off Gura via some BS technique?

>>32062988
How do you even transform these into this? >>32064603

>>32069697
So Ame should say no to a good friend asking to play games together just because it might be seen as leeching? Lol, you're worse than the Kanata antis.

>>32069782
>>32069842
Don't even need to try when the evidence is in plane sight, bro.
Both her and Uto are leeches extraordinaires. There's no question about this.
Their methodologies to leech are different, but they still get the same results: views and subs to increase those precious ad revenue.

>>32070010
Damn, must suck not having anyone to trust in your life if you think action such as friend asking friend for a collab = leech. What's next? Blaming someone else instead of yourself when things go wrong in life?

Are you easily distracted and baited into shit flinging? You might find /jp/ to be a place you belong.

>>32069997
Why not? She can collab with Kiara (which she doesn't) or Ina (really rare).
Yet, she still insists with Gura, the largest channel among the EN five. Do the fans love it? Yes. Does she know? Hell yeah. So she knows the benefit on collabing with her good and convenient friend Gura.
>>32069920
>Fake
The results speak more than my own words. Just go to their channels, and their collabs is among the highest numbers on their respective channels. GurAme SELLS, and they have to be blind to NOT know it. Especially Ame when she's the most expected member to pop into someone's chat for the sake of exposure.
It's all business. You guys should know this already. Leeching is a legitimate business technique, the same shit y'all have been drilling into the utoshills.

>>32070320
>Blaming someone else instead of yourself when things go wrong in life?
I mean... Kiara exists, so...

>>32070465
Condomates will defend Amelia’s leeching until the day they die

>>32070465
>for the sake of exposure
Holy schizo. Ame's the most supportive but your chemically imbalanced brain is too busy focusing on numbers. Utofags are seething this much.

One thing is for certain: They're both leeches.
I respect all of your point of view on this, that leeches are retches that takes advantage of another's popularity, or like it since it's a legitimate thing to do. It depends on who you speak to honestly.
But fact of the matter is, both take advantage of others for the sake of gaining a foothold (Uto for reasons stated above, Ame for what she does that's been already discussed in /hlgg/ to death). Whiteknighting or anti, they're all legitimate responses, and that's understandable.
>>32070706
Of course you'd see that as her "being supportive", but it also works as good PR. Good PR=Good reputation, which naturally leads to more followings. It's still numbers in the end, friend.

>>32070907
At least Amelia actually got hired by the company to leech off them

>>32066916
I like kwapper

>>32070907
Your mindset is so weird I dont understand. You talked as if: Someone keeps helping homeless people because it makes him happy = he is selfish cuz he is only doing that for his own happiness instead of him being a good person

Just got back, was any actual evidence found or are people still flinging shit just because?

>>32071136
Are you by chance missing the top few posts with links?

>>32071136
>people still flinging shit just because

>>32071202
Yeah and we already discussed how those don't constitute any more evidence than what we already know.

Do we have a verdict on Uto's case? I'm sure she'll find a way to turn things around in any case, she's pretty cunning and I love that side of her.

>>32071136
Time loop.

>>32071265
Oh, it is you, again. "Just got back" indeed.

>>32064435
Don't forget Niji management getting involved and making it worse.

>>32071136
What do you think anon? Have we ever gotten solid evidence from these schizo faggots for the past 2 days?

Enjoy your Chinese knock off while you can. We all know Chink shits won't last.

>>32071346
Seeing you the fag replying to yourself is funny.

>>32071265
And that is enough to get the facts that we is at our hands now which was compiled into this >>32062988

>>32071006
The leeching is still there. But hey, if it helps, it helps.
>>32071119
True altruism is unattainable, anon. People are selfish to the core. It really depends on how people project their selfishness. Even the most seemingly altruistic action has some benefit beneath that the actor actively pursue (Helping the poor = Altruistic action. While helping the poor since it "feels right" = Innately selfish.)
I"M NOT SAYING selfishness is bad btw, It's really how act with it in mind.

>>32066916
Kwapper and Africat are the only ones I still respect, hope they can pass gen 2 auditions.

>>32071405
Here’s your (you), ESLchama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tQtTa_qFLI

Of course it would followed by "w-we already knew it".

>"運営が中国なら日本人Vをプロデュースしてbilibiliに逆輸入する計画なのかもな"

>>32071874
Hmm. It is interesting to see whether her company is the same one that is harassing Coco right now.

>>32069697
ogey

https://streamable.com/16i6ff

>>32071477
>"chinese company"
>fact
Anon, you're just showing you can't read the discussion above. Even people who push it don't know if it's true or not. Read from >>32065534 and backwards.

This China narrative just makes me want to see Tenshi in a cute commie outfit

>>32072137
>reading comprehension
It literally called out you faggots for dismissing any and all the evidence presented.

Just read the whole thread, seems like a big ol' nothingburger at this point.

>>32070010
Is that the best Utofags can do? Deflect in a desperate attempt to keep the heat off a shameless leech who''s past is coming back to bite her in the ass.

>>32071488
Utoshills are just like their oshit, ruthlessly cutthroat and so business minded that they can't comprehend someone who isn't purely motivated by selfishness.

>>32072278
>>32064775

>>32072355
Reminds me of the chinks, really.

>>32072399
Not surprising since she is supported by Chinks.

>>32072272
Let me walk through that post slowly, as you couldn't read it: he admits it is all unconfirmed, but the possibility is not yet dismissed. Not that the whole thing is now a fact. There, there, I know English was hard.

>>32072376
Well, seems like someone else agrees it's a nothingburger. He's right.

>>32072430
Repeating a narrative won't make it come true.

>>32072399
>>32072430
https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/why-altruism-risky-china

>>32072452
You’re expecting too much from these nip monkeys if you think they can read and understand basic English

>>32072341
>>32072355
You guys DO realize he's involving Uto in his tangents, right?
How the fuck is he an utoshill?

>>32072452
You have to look at everything with context. That anon said that because the previous guy entirely dismissed the claims. He had to wrote in a way that the previous guy can understand, so that instead of dismissing the claims entirely, he can at least treat them as "unconfirmed".

>>32066597
I read all of it and was entertained. >>32064603

>>32072503
>narrative
Except it is real. Deleting stuff won't make the accusation go away. What's done is done.

This tenshi sounds like a real jerk!

>>32070907
Leeching off Hololive's brand ≠ Vetted company talents interacting with one another in a company that is known for being close and insular. Keep repeating the everyone leeches argument and maybe you'll buy your own bullshit.

>>32072641
It's interesting to see that you can make up the dumbest shit with 0 proof and retards here will still eat it up.

>>32072641
Repeatedly saying something is real won’t make it true, retardchama.

>>32072707
We all knew she leeched even if she deleted the initial streams.

>>32072566
Trying to drag someone else down to the level of the one they're shilling using false equivalency is a basic bitch deflection technique. I bet there's even a name for it

>>32072587
Seems like you want us to discuss >>32065534 in detail. Let's look at his 2 last words.

"i agree"
By this, the anon is agreeing with >>32065379. And what is >>32065379 about? Oh: "I haven't seen anything indicate that was a chinese company."

I hope that cleared all confusion.

>>32072785
The chain is about the Chinese company shit, stop replying if you can't even grasp the context of what's talked about.

>>32072855
All I see is you giving yourself lots of (You)s.

>>32072785
No one is denying the fact that she leeched, you absolute retard.

>>32072745
Now if only you followed your own advise, wouldn't that be swell, eh retardchaama?

>>32072955
>wouldn't that be swell, eh retardchaama?
Unironically neck yourself

>>32072855
So that is what I mean about the context. If he said he disagree than the guy wouldn't even read is wall of text. He just want the guy to be on his side and consider all the evidence first before rushing to conclusion.

>>32072818
He was deflecting?

>>32073004
Retardchama-chama~!

>>32072620
I enjoyed writing it too.

>>32072566
Read the previous threads, they've already involved Aloe and Coco in a failed attempt to defend Uto. Now they're trying and failing to use Ame to help Uto because everyone leeches right, its a "nothingburger".

>>32073062
of course he is.

None of this will matter when china takes over the vtuber industry. They already did it with anime and weeb games, its just a matter of time. Tencent will make its move.

>>32073157
>needed to use other chuuba to deflect for Uto
S-surely this drama is a n-nothingburger!

>>32073004
Nah, I'm good.
But hey! I happened to find one with your post no. on it! Go on, anon! Give it a try~

>>32072707
It’s a small number of schizos samefagging and shitting up the thread

>leech mouths kinda looks like an asshole
is that why you utoshills are so horny about her?

>>32072707
>0 proof
Ignoring the entire thread now huh?

>>32073302
Utofags are this pathetic?

>>32073363
>52 poster
I agree. Uto threads are ground zero for shitposting. Still waiting for her to stream desu.

>>32073433
I too can write greentext and link past greentext and pass it off as proof.
>32073433 sucks dicks for a living

>>32073438
CHINA NAMBA WAN

>>32073483
Except that is not what is happening if you actually went to read it.

>>32073557
They can't help but reply with "nothingburger".

>>32073483
It’s true, nips have a deep desire to obtain and suck what they themselves don’t have

>>32073438
Looking at how the West is begging for the yellow dick, speaking the truth is the least pathetic things to state, gweilo.

>>32073557
I reject your proof and subtitute my own.
Tenshi is the cutest in the world and if there is one thing I want is for her to stream ignoring everything in this echochamber.

>>32073645
>They can't help but reply with
The fucking irony.

>>32073661
Sadly true, although I'm sick of US politics anyway so that might be not be too bad for a change.

>>32073917
Might not be*

>>32073917
Democracy has failed you, foreigner! Embrace the Middle Kingdom!

So this is the power of Uto antis.

>>32074141
More dislikes than Coco, kek

>>32074265
It is Nanking all over again hahaha.

>>32074141
Is that supposed to be impressive? The absolute state of antis.

>>32073675
Based entertainment enjoyer.

does Uto affect by any of these at all? She could come out at this point and says "fuck yeah i did it all,what are you going to do about it" and still making bank.

Place your bets on the table regarding Tenshi's future
>$100 says she's actually innocent AND will join Hololive this year

>>32073675
Finally, someone who truly sees the point of Vtubers.
Mad love, bro.

>>32074683
I hope she does

>>32074683
If anything, this event will somehow alienate her from her JP audience, while nudging her closer towards her overseas audience.
It's a win-win scenario, for me at least.

>Moona sister
>A tenshi
>Actually acknowledged by her
>Good at singing
>Not a leech
Pls give Hiyori some love

>>32066916
Retarded holofag fails to realize cover is a start up company funded by bugs lol

>>32075236
Why are there so many light purple hair loli?

>>32074899
It’s not like those nip faggots are crucial to sustaining her channel anyways. HoloEN has comparatively already taken a massive dump on the JP branch, which just goes to further show that the global/EN market is much more profitable.

Nice.

>>32075341
>b-b-but muh rrats
OH NO NO NO

>I hope it straightens out peacefully. Thank you for the context
>Ahhh.... I understand the problem now.
>People are the worst thing about people baka
>In other words, this is just a business between Uto and said person and we have no right to interfere
>I didn’t even know there was drama, but no problems from me.
>I was trying to search for any info regarding about the Uto mess. Thank you, this sums it up for me.
>Oh alright thanks for clearing this up, really appreciate it. Keep up the good content man.
>Thank you for the clarity in explanation. I think this is the most reasonable outline of what seems to have happened.
I know I'm late, but it was still priceless to read through reddit's reaction to that new post about uto. Guy shamelessly chisels his rrat, and the cattle immediately buys it like the cucks they are, kek.

https://twitter.com/kuroh728/status/1348441513190019073?s=19
OH NONONONO ANTI BROS I THOUGHT THEY HATED EACH OTHER

>>32075368
based and ENpilled. there are way more weeb foreigners than the population of Japan itself.

>>32075496
scroll up retardchama

>>32075401
It literally is retard which is why cover shat their pants over Taiwan, big majority of investors are bugs but muh hololive is pure and bug free kek. If you're going to shit up the board lurk more newfag

>>32075557
>Read my fanfiction

I do not know what is going on but it sure is daaaaamn great to see that disgusting leech go up in flames hahaha

>>32075428
Ah I see, I understand it now, thanks for giving me the context, King.

>>32075557
>scroll up and read our awesome greentext wordwall bro!
>vs.
>actual statement by one of the main parties
Yeah, no.

Can someone please clarify why it’s even a discussion whether Uto is backed by a Chinese company or not? Either way the money will be going to a bunch of chinks at the end of the day, whether they’re Japs or the CCP.

>>32075794
Japs are not chink, please learn the history of the formation of the Yamato clan and the purging of the Ainu thank you

>>32068009
unfathomably based

How does this shitty thread have so many replies and literally nothing interesting in it

>>32075775
People here love greentext more than links

>>32075775
read, nigger
>>32060631

>>32075863
You're right.
They're actually gook immigrants if we think about it.

>>32075907
Because 90% of those replies were from some JOP schizo samefagging and LARPing while EOP’s slept

>>32073401
>utoshills

Don't tell anyone but I don't even watch Uto. I'm just here to lewdpost about pounding her poop chute until she can no longer shit properly for the rest of the week.

>>32075946
unironically true

Queen defended by calling other schizo.

I hope she deletes her channel. Disgusting whore

>>32075990
I swear to God, are you also that one Soraposter?

>>32075236
Uten>>>>>>>Uto

>>32076136
Yes

The artists admits to being a piece of shit and deletes tweets trying to shit on Tenshi. Tenshi wins without making a single tweet.

>>32076272
Based

>>32076441
>it’s true
Holy shit Uto, I kneel

>>32076441
>damage is done, time to pretend to be sorry
Not like the antis will stop.

>>32076441
Where do you think she was in the last two days? She pulled out his teeth with a plier until he apologized publicly.

>>32076577
>She pulled out his teeth with a plier
God I wish I was him.

>>32076577
>is seiso
>our wife
>also our husband
>has MPD
>a genius
>now a psychopath
She just keeps getting better and better!

>>32076544
He’s backpedaling pretty hard though. That would probably be enough to make normies question the legitimacy of the whole situation.

JWU
anything new from the raid?

>>32076920
scroll up

>>32076909
>they only had to read what he wrote originally
Why are normies and microdick japcels so retarded? Why can't they just read the original source?

Artist's new tweet: "私が伝えたかったことは伝わったかと思うのでツイートは削除させて頂きました。一方的な意見のみを流す形となってしまったこと、多くの方に不快な思いをさせてしまったこと、全て含め謝罪させて頂きます。大変申し訳ございませんでした"

Looks like a good apology. And Tenshi didn't even have to do a thing (though the crack theory is still that she beat up the artist offline).

Tenshi muscle!

>>32076969
Given how phenotypically close they are to chimps, it’s only natural that they have genetically inferior IQ levels.

>>32076909
Good point, at least something.

SHE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!

>>32076544
>Caring what a holofag sea nigger thinks
The subhuman got tired of getting paraded around /hlg/2 English edition that he came here making shit up, how do I know he's a seanigger? No one not even the most hardcore EOPs bring up moona because no one cares about her she got replaced by a heroined fueled zombie, A dagger streaming from a calculator, and an indog who was forced to kneel to English speakers as the indogs have pennies and IOUs to super chat with.

Artist has taken down the tweet and apologized.
And we didn't even have to organize a whiteknight discord server like for Aloe.

gg men. Back to seiso tenshi noises.

>>32076980
she (or the company backing her?) must have threatened to sue with enough evidence or they just slap him with more money

what was the deleted tweet?

>>32077183
But... When will she stream again???
I miss her...

>>32077176
Huh?

>>32077231
All of the screenshots detailing his side of the story with Tenshi and their LINE conversations were deleted.

>>32060631
I would've sided more with the guy but he started retweeting shit outside of the issue. I'm not saying he has no right to be salty but when you publicize your case, going for other issues outside of yours always gives me badvibes.

>>32077231
the real situation

>>32077231
>>32077299
Also the retweet of https://twitter.com/DDG52kfKZRZoaha/status/1347005529437061122 (still liked though)

>>32077299
oh, twitter app had a problem updating

>>32077247
Tonight back with english lessons

>>32077231
Every nasty thing he did.
The only thing that remains is his apology.

reminder to take your bluepills at 5

>>32077271
Casual, rabid racism is what passes for breakfast at /jp/.

There's the blessing a priest can give you with some religious words.
Then there's the blessing a bishop can give you with a handwave and some religious words.
Then there's the blessing the pope himself can give you by placing his hand on your head and saying some latin religious words.
Then there's the blessing Uto can give you by farting on your face and saying GG MEN.

>>32077405
No seaniggers deserve death. /jp/ has legitimately made me wish for a chinese invasion of the SEA area

>>32077330
>>32077351
Yeah that attention whore fucker’s credibility was pretty much shot when he started retweeting that shit.

I'm from 5ch, and I've heard that the folks on 4chan are a bunch of idiots who mistakenly believe that uto is part of the hololive. Is this true?

>>32077371
>returns by immediately catering to overseasbros
Good, JPs deserves to get cucked for all the shit that happened.

>>32077508
you got 5ch and 4chan switched, but yes

>>32077508
I'm from 4chan, and I've heard that the folks on 5ch are a bunch of idiots who mistakenly believe that 4chan believes that uto is part of the hololive. Is this true?

>>32077491
did it sink to the same level of uto's though?

>>32077508
Implying anyone here will fall for your solid english. At least machine translate back and forth, bro.

>>32077445
What would Uto's farts smell like?

>>32077508
No.
>>32077573
Yes.

>>32077584
Brimstone and divine judgment.

>>32077584
Heaven.

So from what I can understand:

1. Her previous chuuba life. Literally irrelevant, none of the parties look like they were in the right anyway. People argue to this day whether Tama was right and who leaked the appland discord, there will never be a definitive answer to any of this.
2. "Fake indie" is something only /vyt/ schizos care about at this point. And if she mentions "staff" in her tweets it's not like she's even pretending. The possible Chinese connection smells delicious but has not been proven so far.
3. Leeching. Now, more or less everybody leeches. For all the holofans here, this is what Hololive was accused of as a whole early on, that they only survived by "leeching" from nijis. Basically another /vyt/ schizo term. Meta tags - everyone has done that, Hoshikawa got caught with Holo in tags not that long ago. The one-sided mentioning of Ame is kind of a faux pass in the community. Shilling herself with a picture of Ame side by side with her might actually cross the line though.
4. Not paying for commissions. The only stuff that is worth being looked at seriously. Now, a lot of big conventional youtubers get caught up in shit like this all the time, so it's not that unusual. The problem with the artist thing is, if Uto is a "fake indie" and the artist doesn't work with individuals, how the hell is Uto personally responsible for the payout? She's not in charge after all.

>>32077670
Get your shit together, you have half of that still wrong. She already paid by the time the artist started crying. Also, she didn't make any images of herself and Ame. She looked and retweeted fanart of the two of them while saying happy birthday to Ame. And that's the only thing she did regarding Ame. She never brought her up until chat and about her.

If she really is an indie, then her Mario Kart distribution is rigged. Well, the chances of her being an indie are almost zero.

>>32077575
Uto is a bitch for her previous debacles but this Tii-san an another level of retard for putting this publicly after getting paid and retweeting issues outside of his case. They can both fuck off honestly.

If she really is an indie, then her Mario Kart streaming is rigged. Well, the chances of her being an indie are almost zero.

>>32077787
Now she's employed by nintendo? They had yakuza connections so it makes sense.

>>32077670
>Uto is fake indie who’s owned and managed by a company
>Uto is a literal criminal who is personally responsible for her behavior towards the artfag
Bold of you to assume that JOP monkeys are capable of critical thinking.

>>32077787
>>32077849
the chance of you not being a 5ch incel is almost zero

>>32077445
15 likes now. Congrats!

I really, really want a fanart of Uto breaking the artist's fingers with the GOI hammer. Should I commission it?

>>32077670
Honestly the artist was a retard for not being clear about payment. People can take a work as being "free" when there is no clear agreement on price and date, most especially if they are close. Even more so if you just mention the payment after three months of doing it.

TLDR; they are both retards.

pack it up anons, it's over...

>>32077876
On 5ch, this place is known as a gathering of incels. Weren't we in the same league?

>>32077849
>suddenly, Nintendo is now involved
Wtf, how do you even-

>>32077939
>both retards

>>32077925
too lazy to edit this

>>32077968
so that's why Coco won't buy a switch

>>32077925
GO DO IT CHAMP!

>>32077968
Nintendo is heavily affiliated to the Triads.

Nintendo does not authorize super chat for individuals. streaming is a problem if uto is an individual.

>>32078063
Isn't that the opposite of what every single company does though?

>>32078020
I guess that's true.

>>32077968
Holofags make narratives out of everything, if tenshi streams and coughs a bit they'll make some shit about her being a test experiment for a chinese covid3 and is spreading it cross japan with the permission of the US government

>>32078092
But she is a Chinese Lab Rat authorized by US government to spread chink virus to japan so Holos and Nijis will die and Bili will get the global chuba market.

>>32077939
Jokes on you, retarded girls are the best!

>>32078128
She met Amelia to give her the new covid strain, when she dies she will eat her corpse and bubba and become Amelia. No one will notice

>>32078063
I would need a lawyer to verify this and investigate the Japanese requirements to incorporate oneself (or one's team).
Or I could just continue shitposting on /jp/ and write fictional narratives.

>>32078084
Nintendo's official statement states that only certain licensed companies will be allowed to Super Chat. hololive falls into that category.

Quote.
・UUUM株式会社（吉本興業所属を含む）
・株式会社ソニー・ミュージックマーケティング
・株式会社東京産業新聞社（ガジェット通信）
・いちから株式会社 　nijisanji
・カバー株式会社（2020/8/1 追加） 　hololive
・株式会社アップランド（2020/8/1 追加）
・株式会社クリーク・アンド・リバー社（The Online Creators）（2020/8/1 追加）
・株式会社STPR（2021/1/1 追加）

>>32077939
a cunt yes but a genuine retard wouldn't be able to pull all of that off

>>32078163
Can't read nip does it state that non companies can't SC either or it just addresses the companies?

>>32078092
Holofags are actually the vast majority of her fans

Now you're going to the Nintendo route. Man you rrats are something else.

>>32078163
Pikamee...

>>32078194
Only companies approved by Nintendo. If you are not on the list, you have a problem.

Is this only in Japan?　I'm a little confused there. What are the terms and conditions in the US?

Oh, I just can't wait for the eventual FromSoftware rrat.

>>32078271
Anon, this is old shit, Animare did some workaround where the company doesn't take a cut from the Nintendo streams and so the streams are monetized under the "individual streamer" policy, which is different from this one. You don't know what you're talking about.

>>32077939
It's fucking stupid. Even a formal monetary agreement can go batshit with contracts when mixed with personal relationships, what made him think that "I can pay!" is enough? Uto is a bitch but he had that coming to him.

>suddenly nintendo is governing SC

>>32078271
Yes, but if it only applies to companies and doesn't address individuals then there's no problem.

Nintendo's streaming agreement

1.Personal
Can stream. Super Chat is not allowed.

2.Corporate
Cannot stream.
If the company does not receive compensation, it is the same as an individual.

3.Authorized companies
Can stream. Super chat is possible.

Uto is 1 or 2.Both are illegal.
What if it's 3?　Interesting.

just realized he sketched this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7_GewitE7M

New thread at >>32079170.

>>32079189
>pg.5
retard
>that OP
still kinda based.

>>32077176
u mad?

Her feet must be heaven to kiss, lick and rub your dick on

>>32081311
Reminder that she wears shoes.

>>32078195
About 90% of her fanbase are holofags

>>32081734
And people are wondering why her vids/clips get recommended to them.

>>32081734
something something tags