/jp/ - Otaku Culture

it's not like cover spends more on its talents than it makes from them as it stands already.

HoloEN subs are full of trend hopping scum that don't actually watch streams when compared to try the others.

>>32154343
because gura is talentless and annoying

holoEN is actually just gay faggots and should stop existing

ENs have no staying power.

>>32154343
I think some other JP girls outrank Gura in average Superchat earnings.

Subcount means jack shit if it won't convert to live viewers.

>>32154343
subs don't make money magically appear, girls like rushia is where the money is. until gura learns how to court her lonely audience she'll never be the primary focus

EN relies on EOP toddlers or manchild clipfags that subscribed only because of some "haha funny joke"

>>32155324
the fuck are you talking about, literally all that matters are VOD views

>>32155818
not really, the actual cash comes from superchat, merch and membership.

views give you dimes

>>32154343
Sub count doesn't reflect everything that's going on. Superchats and members is where the most money lays in.
While Gura is still one of the best in that departament, she's not THE best. I believe Coca and Rushia earn more money, and out of ENs Mori has more superchats (but less members).

imagine believing that daily subs aren't an indicator of growth, engagement, and profitability, funny shark girl hasn't gone below +10,000 daily since day one

>>32155951
what about kiara

>>32156047
high daily subs consisting of dead meme subs aren't an indicator of profitability at all, just look at risu who was pulling in over 10k a day not too long ago herself

>>32156488
>daily
>dead meme
please explain to me how NEW subs EVERY day are also somehow a dead meme even though on account of being "daily", all of them are NEW, every DAY

>>32154343
Auditions for EN 2 is ending soon

>>32156728
>Auditions for EN 2 is ending soon
hope so

>>32156895
jealous and seething

>>32156728
>Not reading and thinking it's EN2

>>32156587
tell me how how nonstop nut november is somehow still relevant first and i'll answer

>>32157379
the fuck does that have to do with anything

>>32157429
risu's got a huge influx of subs on the daily that came from a now dead meme
risu gets 1000 live views on a good day and isn't hugely profitable for cover
high daily subscriber counts do not automatically equal profitability for cover, this isn't rocket science

>>32155937
remind me how exactly Gura is supposed to get merch sales when Holo hasn't produced Gura merch?
>>32157545
you don't get 10,000 new people subscribing to your channel every day consistently for 4 months and counting just because of a meme, if meme power made youtube subs, then Neil Cicierega would have 20 million subs instead of 600k, I don't know why this is difficult for you to understand

>>32157847
So, why does she still get that many subs daily? She doesnt even do any meme videos. Are people just subbing to a popular new thing or what? It has been 3 months now and it is not stopping, confused me

>>32158176
Haven't you ever looked at a Gura thread?
Those guy's devotion to her charms/voice
and model.
You might instinctively dislike her or something
but she does have talent as a singer. That alone should explain some of her success. The rest follows from a similar root.

>>32158176
algorithm has probably started recommending her to her old channel's subscribers

>>32158436
you get banned if you mention it

>>32158334
She has not sung for a month now and yet new people still sub to her? Generally, if one doesnt produce the kind of contents they are good at (im assuming from you that her best contents are singing), they should lose that momentum and slow down

>>32158478
right, but people who haven't looked it up get it because other people do, I would assume it works in reverse but gura's the only one with a channel big enough for people to notice

>>32157545
Risu fell into the same trap that FBK did, short meme videos get you subscribers but they don't add to your audience. hlg said that treerats coomerbaiting was gonna amount to nothing and they were right.

Half of Gura's subs are probably worthless but they serve as exposure and most importantly tell the algorithm to continue to recommend her. Her subscriber count plays a large role in why she has the most memberships in all of hololive.

>>32158597
HER videos always have gura videos in the recommendations, consistently, the algorithm knows, because so many people searching know.

>go where the money is
That's why EN will never be the main branch

>>32158698
That's what I thought, because two other channels get their reps done by the algorithm, but aren't big enough/I'm too lazy to see if it happens in reverse.

I wish google's "not interested" shit actually worked so I'd stop seeing that fucking traitor whore Nyanners blemishing the recommendations of my glorious funny shark girl

>>32158698
>>32159693
Fuck I'm retarded, I thought I needed an account but it works on the first watch with no account.

>>32154343
Because Gura is still a very small fish compared to the likes of Coco or Rushia, let alone the real heavy hitters in the English language community.

>>32159854
LMFAO

a full two girls in Hololive EN actually care about their job and it still remains to be seen how long the vtuber fad will last in the west

>>32159928
I'm talking about money, you dunce.

>>32159937
they should still make a containment board

>>32160304
why

>>32159928
Anon... He's talking about the income, not the high amount of deadsubs. Honestly, almost every cumbuds will react the same way like this if their Oshi is critized for being boring and lazy or if someone critized their toxic fanbase.
"lol who cares Gura almost has 2 million subs and will be the highest subscribed vtuber in the world unlike your oshi lol fuck you faggot", in the mind of every cumbuds ever.

Gura, please control your braindead retarded fans.
t. heimin

>>32160339
this board being a dumping ground sucks

>>32160501
What a shame it's not a dumping ground for 2hu anymore.

>>32160660
i’ll punch you in the head

>>32155818
Everyone use adblock. 400k to 600k vod views won't give much

>>32158176
Clips. Clippers send new people to her channel but the new people never watch her

contrarian zone.
biggest holo girl, soon to be the biggest vtuber in the world in under a year, they'll still hate her here, in fact they'll hate her more the more successful she becomes, because she's the loli embodiment of Florida man, a weeaboo, and a legacy shitposter. You wanted one of your precious pure japs to be number one, and it's not happening, and you hate that so, so much for some reason that you'll rationalize to the end of time that Gura's somehow doing worse off than the other girls who are under her.

>>32161029
I never understand that mentality of subbing and not even trying to watch live once

>>32161512
i have better things to do than watch someone play video games

Have the teamates calmed down now that they are getting Apex streams again?

>>32154343
>He thinks subs are more important that superchat
https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

>>32161152
I don't hate her, I hate (you), her fanbase is pure cancer, she's fun, but (you) are mostly annoying spammy kids

>>32154343
English speaking Vtubers don't work for me. I can only suspend my disbelief so much and when the girl speaks english I can tell how fake and dumb she sounds.

>>32162520
>He thinks superchats are more important than dailies
https://holo.poi.cat/youtube-channel

>>32162668
Are you retarded or are all cumbrains of her fabase like you?

>>32162668
Why would you prefer 100 dead subs over 1 dedicated viewer who sends SC????

>>32162668
So this is the brain of your averag chumbud.. s-sugoi

>>32162812
>>32162889
>>32162903

>DAILIES
>as in today
>TO DAY
>dead
>today
>dead
>today
>dead
>t o d a y
how do you guys even function with brains this small? do I need to type it slower or in bigger letters for you? Do you need a guidance counselor to read it out to you?

>>32163128
Next you will say is I was only pretending to be retarded, cumbrain.

>>32163128
Whatever you say cumbud, enjoy your children filled fanbase.

>>32163128
>He thinks dailies are more important than member/SC/Promo money

Jesus christ I was actually right, you guys really are salty that the #1 girl isn't a jap and you're gonna hate her no matter how big she gets

>>32163417
>Jesus christ I was actually right, you guys really are salty that the #1 girl isn't a jap and you're gonna hate her no matter how big she gets
You seem to be retarded, people hates people like you, not her, you are the most cancerous fanbase the vtuber market has ever seen, pokimane levels of toxicity.

>>32163417
I just hate chumbuds

>>32163417
Autist

>>32154343
>Why don’t they just focus on holoEN now? gura has almost twice as many subs as the top JP channel
>go where the money is right
I see that someone still doesn't tired to post that shit constantly for 3-4 months already.
Have a pity (You), schizo.

>>32163417
You are the reason Gura has any problem or bad fame, she's fine, you are not.