/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>3216031
Will I be able to enjoy my AIDS in this game?

>>3216041

No. Route girls are: Tuberculosis, Black Plague, Ebola, Rabies, Influenza and White Blood Cell.

>>3216047
Then it's shit.

Why the fuck all the "projects" have retarded themes? Girls with disabilities, virusmoe, what the fuck is this "IT'S DIFFERENT SO IT'S COOL"?
What happend to the Victorian era's mechant or the architect ones?

>>3216031
I hope those aren't the designs because they're awful. Art is cute though.

I kind of want to contribute to some original content project, but the concept is totally unappealing in this case.

>>3216050
Why don't you create one then?

With Blackjack

And hookers.

>>3216050

I do know it's gimmicky. But I hope we can push that aside and actually have a good game that doesn't have to depend on it's quirkyness or coupling to be read.

>>3216058

>>3216050 here
I want too, but so far all the "projects" look like they are lead by underage or/and uneducated people. You can count plus one person if we are going to do something more interesting.

It's pretty easy to make a unique VN without using some ridiculous gimmick.

A protagonist that isn't a teenage male.
A setting that doesn't involve high school.

>>3216052

Yep, those are the designs. From lef to right: Tuberculosis, Black Plague, Ebola, Rabies and Influenza.

Pic = WBC

>>3216064
Is it so hard to actually make a realistic slice of life and have fun at the same time?

>>3216031
this is a bad thread and you should feel bad

>It's pretty easy to make a unique VN without using some ridiculous gimmick.

>A protagonist that isn't a teenage male.

NOW who's being ridiculous.

>>3216068
Kira Kira was good while having both those points. But I agree, as /jp/ we should avoid those two.

>>3216068

Protagonist isn't a teenage male here. Nor is it placed in Japan. I know that it is still gimmicky, as I've said, so I'm trying to do different stuff and will strive for good quality.

Since it's a first VN for all of us, we do have a comfort zone. But I'll work to make this not just another generic OELVN.

This looks quite stupid indeed

Is this going to be an actual dating sim, with stats and whatnot?

>>3216071

Nope. But the people in this project liked this idea and not some realistic slice of life.

>>3216085

We haven't still decided, but it appears it will be just a visual novel. It is leaning that way.

>>3216088
Well okay no problem here. Different tastes, different people. Good luck with that.

>>3216031
Why do I get the feeling that TB-chan will end up turning out like Hyatt?

Fascinating.

I love how /jp/ was JESUS CHRIST THIS IS AMAZING when this idea randomly came up in a random thread, and no one likes it when someone actually starts making it. I probably can't be useful in any way, but good luck to you guys.

>>3216125
Welcome to hype

>>3216125
Because the concept was interesting, but that doesn't mean it's going to be any good.

>>3216125

Actually, we did had some people saying that from the start, although one of them was CurryButt. But we did have more people helping with the project.

>>3216125
Almost all the time we're mostly joking. It's like saying that we would all kneel and receive ANIKI's injection but no one would do it in real life.

...well I would.

>>3216125
Happens to everything in here bro, just remember everything /jp/ has come up with and you'll see the same.

>>3216031
I have just one question: do you have a competent artist who can draw a large volume of high-quality pictures?

if the answer is no then you might as well end the project right now. saves time.

>>3216219

The drawfag who did all of the pictures posted here and the designs has commited himself to doing all that. And he's one of the people who post constantly and hasn't disappeared.

So, yeah, we have an artist. Some people from /jp/ don't like his style, but personally I think it works.

Which one of the virus girls turns out to have a penis in the end?

Is there a diaper scene?

>>3216069

SO WHITE.

>>3216050

There's nothing wrong with weird themes.

>>3216481
Have sex with King Arthur - Great Game
Tea parties and mysteries with Witches - Great Game
Murder friends and sleep with Lovecraftian loli - Great Game

>>3216514

But there's gotta be a line between weird and completely ridiculous.

>>3216572
If you think it's ridiculous then don't play it.
besides, it's a nice change of pace.

>>3216572
Having sex with a female version of King Arthur, explained by 'he was really a she that crossdressed', is not completely ridiculous? Why not make a VN where you join forces with Gengis Khan, who turns out to be a female in a fat suit, and helping him conquer the world, eventually falling in love and making him/her realize her femininity?

>>3216079
>Kira Kira
>Good

Oh you.

>>3216594
Because Dictator Lolis is too awesome a concept to ever exist.

Isn't it sad, Stalin-chan? ;_;

>>3216591

It's never going to get made, so nobody will ever play it, not just me.

>>3216601

Isn't that game being made by professionals?

>>3216602
I see no reason why it won't be made.
but whatever, I don't have enough information to make a valid argument.

>>3216601
A TINY TINY CLEVER COMMANDER

>>3216608
Yes, but they're just world leaders, not dictators.

Also, they haven't announced a delicious brown american president, so I kinda lost interest.

>>3216620

It's got putin. He is moe made russian.

>>3216609

This is /jp/ Nothing ever gets made.

Ebola is mai waifu.

I think rather than lacking "lol raelism" what people actually want is a sense of immersion as in a concept that sucks you in.
The weaknesses in other stories like FSN are made up for in part by the"oh hey I'm a fixan the radiator OMFG I'm a motherfucking wizard and I make things assplode!" element.
Not that theres no room for a fantastic setting you just need to be aware of how you sell it. Making something sound good is surprisingly difficult. Often a catchy intro will do, think Disgaea, but sometimes thats not really feasible
in witch case ignore the setting entirely and focus on the plot while letting the reader catch on to whats happening themselves. After all whose to say what the alien landscape is or is not.

>>3216965
Do you think you could Pygma-chan as a character?

C'mon guys, I need your help. We really need some new people and ideas, and I don't want this to die.

Don't commit yourself if you don't want to, but take a look at what we've got and comment whatever you want.

>>3216965
How about adding Pygma-chan as a new character? She's the perfect waifu...

>>3216957

Great comment. This is exactly what I think about this project.

>>3216973

Who?

>>3216957
I made a poopie in ur forums

The concept is interesting not sure how well the story can be written if its about stuff occurring in your body unless there is some battle with cells, your immune system etc

I'll happily help out with a music track or two. Some samples:

Confrontation/battle scene for Mugen's game: http://www.tindeck.com/listen/rrxy

At home/taking it easy theme: http://www.tindeck.com/listen/tdgn

Maybe you should take a second look at your character design. It is all over the place. White blood cells are native to the body, yet your white blood cell character is the most alien-looking by far. It looks like a WoW Draenei or something. Meanwhile all the viruses are relatively normal looking women with Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome hair but usually normal looking clothes.

If anything the viruses, which are harmful foreign elements, should look different and the white blood cell should be comfortably generic as it's the most familiar to the body.

Also the last I heard this has some retarded "it was a coma dream all along" twist, I hope you change that.

And why is Ebola a teenager, and influenza the loli? Ebola wasn't discovered until the mid 70s, the flu is old as time. The flu is smart, and experienced. Ebola is young, inexperienced, all it has is it hits like a freight train. It isn't shy.

Start considering the physical traits of your viruses too. Also this clothing... wtf? It makes her look like Hatsune Miku.

>>3217843

A coma triggers the story, but all the routes are real. The "maybe it was a dream all along" ending is if the character wakes up before anything is finished. But it hasn't been decided if we will use it.

And thanks for your input about the design.

>>3217624
Thanks for the help, Zun.

>>3217305

We are balancing true facts and the anthropomorphization, so we might add some drama and social similes, not just virology facts.

>>3218394

Ebola was one of the first personalities to be designes, so we just took it like that. Rabies and Black Plague too.

And Flu was the loli because it matched the playful personality that reflected her mutability. Not because it was new or not.

All this would be incredibly welcome in the forum, so I'm inviting you to post all this there.

Thread reported; get this unoriginal and unashamed attention whoring out of /jp/.

Of course, we've taken some creative liberties right now,and will continue to do so. We do have a doctor that is checking all of this and posted some informative links.

For example, with tuberculosis, first we decided that we needed a tsundere. Someone said tuberculosis, among other things. We choose that. And then, we worked on the personality. That's basically our process, and maybe something is lost on the process. Again, feel welcome to post over there.

And about the look, I think it works better if WBC is the one looking more alien, since you are supposed to become friendly with the sickness girls.

>>3218442

I actually thought that /jp/ would think it was attention whoring. I know how it works. But I'm just asking people to join if they want to. I'm not just creating the thread to promote this. We actually need more people, and since this project started here, what better place to do the recruiting?

If you're not interested, ignore it.

I can't contribute anything, but I like your project and I hope you are successful.

>>3218451

See? It looks like everything is set in stone so whatever I suggest won't change anything.

And the point is that white blood cells aren't alien. Pushing someone away with character design is always worse than doing it through writing, it's cheap and shitty. There's a reason people tend to get grossed out by worms and insects, and why viruses look like... worms, and insects. Because they're harmful and alien. Do it through characterization.

>>3218495

Nothing is set in stone. I'm just explaining why we reached that point of the game.

And even if you don't go and post, I already saved the images and your comments and I'll go and post them there later.

Do you guys need any writers? I can't guarantee I am very good but I like to write and I think getting into a group project will strengthen my self discipline.

>>3218520

We have two writers and one drawfag. We need four more writers, music composers and programmers. Drawfags, editors, and people with ideas are always welcome too.

If you want to write, though, please send a sample of your work to the mail in the mail section.

... why are you people being so receptive. We should nip this pestilence in the bud before it comes to engulf the entire board when they grow to be ksdevs 2.0.

>>3218558

I'm recruiting and answering things. Not promoting or attention whoring.

>>3218551
Why would you need more writers? Editors, I understand, but writers?
And you really don't need programmers to make a visual novel.

Sorry dude, but your idea sound like pretty shitty.

I don't have the time(lol) to waste with your crap.

>>3218551
What kind of example? I haven't really written a short story for about a year, so everything I have right now is pretty faggy so I'll have to make something else.

>>3218586

Six routes, two guys writing all of it. It is too much. At least on my side. I've got time, but not that much.

And I'll take your word about the programmer, but still it'll be nice to have one.

>>3218516

Another thing on character design: The reason I think your design is all over the place is because when I look at those girls I don't see viruses. They're just weird. Like rabies. Rabies is a wild disease, both in origin and behavior. So why does rabies look so, I don't know, conservative and sophisticated? Where's the feral, wild sexiness? Rabies is a paralyzing, burning disease that leaves you gasping, but this rabies and the other one on your boards are nothing like that. They don't look dangerous at all.

Look at Ebola, why the hell would a shy girl wear something with a short skirt and exposed sleeves? And that loud hairstyle?

Why is the flu, the most vanilla of these illnesses, the most unusual in design? She looks like some kind of Star Trek space alien.

Black plague is nice. Mature, refined, sexy, actually incorporates black. This is what you need.

The girls shouldn't look like normal girls with weird, but still human features, like weird hair and clothes. They need to be more thought out. They need to have this element to them that makes them definitely not human, while still being attractive. I'm not a good artist, but I drew that white blood cell with that specific hair to show the tendrils that real white blood cells have, to incorporate that white, soft, efficient, medical characteristic. Her hair is not really hair at a closer look but gives the appearance of hair normally. That is what I was thinking.

Just go with what works. It's an interesting concept but you have to really research it and think about the little things.

>>3218637
You wouldn't really need a programmer as much as it would be nice to have someone who's God Level with Renpy. It's easy to use but it'd still take a lot of time with a beginner who'd have to go and look back at the codes for everything.

>>3218583
You're promoting and attentionwhoring by making the thread. You're a tripfag and likely part of their IRC circlejerk; if you only needed "writers" (which in the context of this sort of lolundertaking includes anyone with a 6th grade education) then you could have asked any of your faggot butt buddies like jones, suigin or zunbar to do it - compared to random anons, they would be infinitely more trustworthy and contactable thanks to your established connection to them.

Instead, you decide to make a thread about it proporting to be recruiting writers, when in truth, all you're attempting to do is to viral market your substandard "game" in hopes of e-fame. Even in the event you decide to carry this transparent farce to its conclusion by asking for writing samples, I'm certain you'll end up rejecting any misguided applicants who take you up on your offer as this is simply a PR stunt you've planned in advance.

Please take this somewhere else.

>>3218661
I bet they're KS devs.

>>3218661

You deduce too much stuff. And your deductions are wrong.

Learn to stop the hate and just embrace this kind of stuff.... Or just, y'know, ignore it.

This games looks like a piece of shit.

Why should I be hyped about this?

All I know about this project is it has an unusually drawn cast of personified virus girls. Maybe if you actually had a foundation for a story instead of centering it around character designs and a wacky concept, it would be more receptive and worthwhile. Right now it's just another mediocre Katawa Shoujo, playing off the idea of "Let's take the average cast of females and base them off something crazy."

>>3218661
Nailed it.

>>3218687
You sure did prove them wrong. Wait...

>>3218649
Listen to this guy. Seriously.

>>3218694

>>3216064 "I do know it's gimmicky. But I hope we can push that aside and actually have a good game that doesn't have to depend on it's quirkyness or coupling to be read."

Please tell me this is an elaborate troll.

The character designs are shit.

I hope you enjoyed my highly constructive criticism.

>>3218702

This is a recruitment thread. And it has also some pointers and suggestioins. Do I have to go and explain why I chose to tripfag, who do I know from the other tripfags, and the specific reasons of why that is wrong? Derailing the purpose of the thread just to try and get on the good side of a group of /jp/ who hates this kind of stuff? In that case, everytime someone says it sucks or it won't get made, do I have to go and tell them they are wrong and to have more faith?

I think not.

>>3218718

That still does nothing to explain what the story is.

Is this like set in somebody's body? That one movie where Eddie Murphy is a white blood cell was fucking shit but I always liked the concept.

>>3218746

Because as much as it hurts me to admit it, there is still no real story, just some vague ideas and rough drafts. That post was just my way to say I know story is the priority and that I'll do my best to make this not some generic and shitty written OELVN.

Then again, promises in 4chan.

>>3218741
That's probably the most generic excuse I've ever heard. If you really had a counterargument, it would have likely taken less time to type it up than the paragraph you just wrote.

>a group of /jp/ who hates this kind of stuff
The fuck are you talking about? /jp/ loves VNs, just not shitty amateur ones haphazardly thrown together by a group of random faggots on 4chan.

Get out.

>>3218741
>Do I have to go and explain why I chose to tripfag, who do I know from the other tripfags, and the specific reasons of why that is wrong? Derailing the purpose of the thread just to try and get on the good side of a group of /jp/ who hates this kind of stuff? In that case, everytime someone says it sucks or it won't get made, do I have to go and tell them they are wrong and to have more faith?

I hope you never try to get into politics.

Protip: campaigning (and thus, the exercise of rhetoric) is intended to sway the opinions of those vascillating under the tides of ambiguity and your enemies. It's not to convince your allies.

If you can legitimately explain why you're doing this here and not through some other medium capable of generating more trustworthy (lol) like IRC or through another board which would garner a more numerous and positive response like /a/, it would only help your case.

>>3218757

Yes, inside the protagonist body. That is why the coma start of the story is what we think our best way to go, we need the protagonist to be inside the protagonist body for the story to really start.

>>3218773
The protagonist inside the protagonist's body? That sounds kind of stupid and pointless.

I think having multiple writers will make the routes not mesh with one another so well, unless you put a lot of effort into imitating one of the writers' style (in which case it might come out seeming pretty forced).
If it's a free time issue, maybe you shouldn't go for such a large undertaking all at once and only do a couple routes at first.

>>3218657
Spend half an hour (or read the tutorial) and you, too, will become "God Level" with Ren'py. Visual novel scripting is very simple and easy to understand, since it's just show image, hide image, show text, hide text, play music, stop music, et cetera.

>>3218757
It's like the Magic School Bus!

I think a coma is pretty dumb. Can't you just do some Fantastic Voyage shit where this guy gets shrunken down to go find the missing link in some guy's ass or whatever and he gets stranded, so he can talk to the viruses that way instead of just having some unconscious acid trip?

>>3218771
>>3218763

Fine. I became a tripfag when this project started. That way, people could ask me how everything was going and if they could join. Then I became busy and left /jp/ for a long time. When I came back, I decided to keep the tripfaggotry because I had already grown accustomed with the name.

I don't know any other tripfags, except the ones who post in jpproject, and even in those cases I'm not "part of their IRC circlejerk" and we aren't "faggot butt buddies". I couldn't care less about most of the tripfags.

Why here? I didn't start this idea. Some other anon did. So I feel like I owe /jp/, in a way. And I have faith that /jp/ isn't the lazy slob that never makes anything. I think he can do stuff. So that's the two reasons I post in here. I could take this somewhere else and run with it, and that probably would be the best choice, but I still think /jp/ has something to give.

Of course, I know when to fold. If I don't get anyone in this thread, I'll search elsewhere. I know how pissed off /jp/ can get with repetitive threads like this.

Finally, this computer sucks and thinks like IRC make the computer freeze most of the time. When I get a new one, I'll try there.

>>3218821

>Why here? I didn't start this idea. Some other anon did. So I feel like I owe /jp/, in a way. And I have faith that /jp/ isn't the lazy slob that never makes anything. I think he can do stuff.

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OH GOD
HAHAHA

>>3218821
>And I have faith that /jp/ isn't the lazy slob that never makes anything. I think he can do stuff.

You should know better than that.

>>3218840
>>3218827

I know, right? But I can say I at least tried. Maybe not with the greatest project, but I did. Someone has to give /jp/ a chance.

>>3218821
Alright, I'll give you that. I can understand the tripfaggotry.

However, you're still asking in the wrong place.

>>3218844
That's vaguely touching. Good luck on the project.

So why is it that /m/ can make a detailed SRW game of reasonable quality without the kind of hostility which permeates this thread? Inb4 true neets faggotry attacking me for visiting more than one board.

>>3216031

I'd help, being a drawfag and all, but I hate the 'moe' shit. Goddamn, you guys should try doing something more serious some day.

>>3218889

Because they're a bunch of manchildren united in an equal love for unfeasible robots and retarded plots. In here, you have a wide variety of interests, ranging from those who like horror stories to action VNs, doll lovers, and vertical scrolling shooters. Take a look at the threads discussing what Ixrec should translate next, for instance. You simply can't appeal to even half of this boards posters.

>>3218940

Then, could you draw how you envision one of the virus girls? I'm not promising the project will leave it's 'moe' characteristics, but new ways of seeing can help.

>>3218954
replace unfeasible robots with moe and you've just described /jp/.

>>3218954

But variety does not automatically discard the ability to make group projects.

Touhou is liked by the majority of /jp/. And there have been discussions about creating something. But the products of this are nonexistant.

>>3218889
We're both shitty boards, /jp/ is just overly hostile about stuff white people make.

>>3218889
are you for real? what is this if so?

If /jp/ was approached by a gorgeous woman on the street handing out free money and blowjobs they would refuse on the basis that she is not Japanese and the money isn't in yen.

>>3219005

I would decline too, since that is just bizarre. But yeah,I get your point.

>>3218954
So? The people who aren't interested can ignore/hide the thread. There's no reason to shit it up.

>>3218889
wait, /m/ made a SRW game?

>>3219005
I'm sure she's be STD ridden and the money'd be something like counterfeit or drug money.

>>3218987

He's asking why they don't face such "hostility", not why group projects aren't being done here. That's an even simpler answer: SRW could be programmed in anyone's garage in a week. After that, it's just padding it out with everyone's favorite robots and animating them.

For a visual novel project, there needs to be experienced writers, first and foremost. A skill that takes a lot more time to establish and put into use. Then there's original art and music, as opposed to making sprites out of existing designs and making midis out of already composed theme music.

With SRW, the groundwork has been well established by a game series spanning over a dozen years. For a group visual novel project, it starts at a relatively blank slate in everyone trying to do their own unique thing as opposed to making a Touhou Scrolling Fangame or modding more characters into the Touhou version of Twinkle Star Sprites. Unfortunately people are grasping at cliches and trying to twist them into "unique" ideas with some sort of gimmick.

>>3219036
>>3219001

http://www.sasorizerolabs.com/sasorizerolabs/index.html

Basically, one fellow had made a SRW game on his own and someone else who had been planning one independently of him contacted him. They ended up getting a small team together and are making a new game whose first stage will be released within the week, probably.

>>3219036
Yes. One of the original mechs is powered by vaginal fluids, if I recall.

I'm expecting a hive-shaped robot that transforms/seperates into millions of tiny, bee-shaped, remote controlled drone unirs next, with the cockpit and the pilot within being encapsulated in the queen bee leader unit.

>>3219070

I wasn't talking just about VNs. I was talking about all kinds of group projects. Which /jp/ has made none.

Not that I condemn him. But that's the way it is up till now.

>>3219155
Any project on the internet involving two or more people seems almost doomed to failure, even more so when everyone is anon. And we don't have any ZUN-tier people that can do the art, music, and programming without getting tired of it.

Not that I don't think we couldn't pull something off with a bit of work.

This looks like crap and the idea is stupid.

Pretty fascinating thread, considering the mostly positive response this project idea initially generated. It's always interesting to observe how the "collective" mind of /jp/ fluctuates--one moment starving for original content, the next day utterly rejecting any as people trying to build up e-cred.

At any rate, asking /jp/ for contributors is almost as good as declaring your project is toast.

>>3219105
Awesome

>>3219187

It worked at first. And I thought it could work again. Apparently, not.

Still, I got some pretty good suggestions and the derailed topic is interesting. So I don't see it as a loss.

get out lovesick devs

>>3218987
We should make Suwako Racing, the spiritual successor to Cirno Racing.

>>3219231

No.

>>3219231

Has Cirno racing been released?

Well this looks like SHIT.

And as shit as it gets people around here won't probably give a shit.

Try asking /a/, OP. They love LOL RANDOM xD stuff.

Don't listen to the newfriends Virus Guy, I support your cause.

What's /jp/ got to do with it anyway?

Reported for faggotry and self promotion bullshit.

>>3219333
Why don't you ask? You used to visit there right?

>>3219358

I already answered several posts like that. And most of them were okay with my explanation.

So stop being suck a dick.

It's like Katawa Shoujo all over again. People loved it at first but then didn't love it so much anymore. And I'm not talking about the shitstorms that followed the demo release. I'm talking about the very early stages of development, this is the exact same way /a/ was acting back then (not surprising, since we are old /a/).

I did the best I could with the designs, and excuse me for not being modest when I say I love them. From day one I said I would step aside if people better than me (and more confident too) would like to take the ropes. And even if you just want to throw suggestions that's fine too. One of the problems I have is that no one on the project has been really giving elaborate insight on this field.

Can't wait for more self promotion faggotry on 4chan!

Seriously, go suck a dick guys.

Delete this thread before you make a further ass of yourself.

>>3219438

NO U

>>3219552

In what part did someone make an ass of themselves? Of course, ignoring the ones that just keep saying this is attention whoring shit.

>>3219565
Because you ARE attention whoring. Fucking leave already.

>>3219565

Virus Drawfag here. It's clear that this is going nowhere. Either we make do with the people we already got (if any) or just recruit somewhere else if we really want to go further with this project. I think that's what the KS Devs did when they hit roadblock.

>>3219600

Ok. I have some things to do for tomorrow, so I won't post today on the forum. But later I'll go and continue the revival of the project.

Thanks to everyone who didn't just dismiss this as attention whoring. Thanks for the comments, opinions and everything else.

I hope that when you hear again about this project, is because it's finished.

Now let this thread die.

>>3219625
lol nope

Virus Guy sure got trolled.

Wow, that one Anon sure worked this thread over.

>>3220218
Good work, /b/roskie.

>3220457

This project has been doomed with trollan since day one. I hope Virus Guy learned his lesson. 4chan isn't the end of the internet.

Wow... what a thread... Virus Guy, don't give up! Just PM me if you need support (minor programming and gui graphics)... Persevere and ignore all the flak.

>ZUN !barYV1VtIA
Sorry for the delays, check your email this thursday...

>>3220522
More like KSDEVS posing as Anonymous discouraging any potential competitors.

>>3225207
no, you're the KS dev.

>>3225240
Takes one to know one!