/jp/ - Otaku Culture

はあちゃまえちえち

COMETTA AISHITE

>>32667975
Unless Pekora's project was something absolutely fucking retarded like a Fuck a Fan event, it probably was just Cover being retarded

>>32668348
Everyone also laughed a Cocofags

んなあああああ

just don't reply to his own replies

pekora's project was probably retarded as fuck
miko was right about dumping the schizo rabbit

>>32668340
I'm pretty sure he's the Marine and Coco falseflagger.
He's here 24/7 falseflagging, replying to himself and metaposting.

Hey anon! I have your meds right here!

Peko will be back

I love Towa.

NO IDOL CULTURE SCHIZOS BEYOND THIS POINT

Someone should do an analysis of how much money Cover is making and how much all the things they are doing should cost

I really, really love my clown wife !!

Tonight I will remind them.
COVER IS A PIECE OF SHIT
>EVERY HOLO SHOULD GO INDIE
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https://twitter.com/Inajun2434/status/1353405024630521856
nose....

I love my oshi very much!! She loves you too, Anon!!

these threads are destroying my brain

>suisei 715k
>watame 716k

What the fuck suityan, it didn't work. DO A GTA STREAM LATER AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>32668413
back to crying lmao

>>32668352
Considering how often Cover fucks up or does fuck all to support their talents, there is definitely precedent there.

Take your fucking medsjavascript:;

retarded management

I need Pekonarratives

>>32668364
UBER SHEEP

>>32668203
>People called her the Pride of Hololive ironically
>She actually became the Pride of Hololive
People called her that because Fubuki called her that...

I miss sheepposter...

>>32668274
Do a search in the archive starting from the oldest posts. Virtually all of the posts that bring up FBK's "Pride of Hololive" quote are ironic mockery and are often followed by the Daydream Warrior clip.

>>32668371
Post more please sir

We will never know what the fuck this project is won't we

>>32668429
Back to Niji thread, faggot.

i would pay someone good money to draw hsmcsisi wearing nothing but her gloves and orange leggings

>>32668413
Hopefully not, she doesn't need Cover and should graduate as soon as possibly to not be under its evil influence. Being an indie is so much better.

>Failed to add order to Buyee cart
Holy shit Cover I’m trying to pay freedom dollars for your ice cubes let me innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

As a japanlet I hated Suisei's chat this stream

Why are western fans so insufferable

>>32668413
In 1 month to announce her graduation after her suspension due to disagreement with management. Possibly for the best.
>>32668420
Go back

Goddamn I know cover is shit but anti-coverfags are running wild abandoning common sense and blaming cover for pekora's recent antics

>https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1353442573231169536
>both of her parents watched her English karaoke
Cute, papamachi also wanted her to sing some Beatles songs

Hey guys, check out this archived no-archive stream!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG-pt3jTjr4

>>32668419
towers...

Project Majima...

I love Kanatan!

>>32668421
>Someone should do an analysis of how much money Cover is making and how much all the things they are doing should cost
>Someone
Do it yourself you lazy bum

Buy me the new Maroon 5 CD oniichan!

>>32668346
There's no such emphasis in the original Japanese. She merely says 半分ぐらいnormally. But that still shows they are willing to put in resources unlike what you claimed.

>>32668429
go back

>>32668419
cute debiru!

>>32668471
americans were never talk discipline and respect so they grow up to be retarded monkeys that think the entire world is the US

>>32668437
miComet GTAO tonight at 10pm will save her

>>32668421
Cover make a large profit. None of the things they do are very expensive, they don't have a big staff and their talent are very profitable. Anyone who says they have high expenses is absolutely clueless

I love Aqua.

towa

Please do you best to support Hololive talents even if they aren't your oshi, many of them are friends with each other behind the scenes and your oshi would be sad to see you making light of their emotions.

Also look closely at these hamster ears.
Right now.
If you don't, your oshi WILL be in hamster ears and glasses by the end of 2021.

>>32668386
It probably was something extremely retarded given what Cover has been willing to fund in the past, I mean just think about it
>Album
No problem
>Sololive
No problem
>Lewd merch and voice lines
No problem, Marine's daki might have been straight up R18 or bordeline, and it's still happening regardless
>More original songs
No problem
>Artbook
No problem

Pekora most likely wanted some beyond retarded shit like a short anime that Cove obviously doesn't have the connections to create

Oh no, sachou is gone?!
Moona is now the CEO of UsadaKen?!
What a turn of events!!

sheep bringing gifts to moona for "saving" her
and for Kanata and Reine for trying. Watame is a good girl

>>32668482
suichama...

sheep english is improving

I only hope pekor can regain her mental health asap.

A toast to subscribers, views, superchats, merchandise, Kanata (the town), offcollabs, covers, original songs, yonkisei and it’s fans.
But most importantly, a toast to the death of all schizo seaniggers, may a tsunami wipe their shithole in one fell swoop, wash away all the filth.

Does Suisei do Member only streams?

>>32668494
Sorry, but I already used the money on my XIV sub

>>32668458

>>32668455
My bad, I thought you didn't realize it was FBK that said that.

>Be Pekora
>Be responsible for most views in Japan, her or Jun
>Make the 3rd most money overall
>Help overseas growth as a huge EOP magnet
>Be the most entertaining Holo overall
>Help Cover grow as a brand
>Cover says no to Pekora
This is actual bullshit. Betrayal type shit. Pekora is still on her first outfit and now that she wants something they refuse? Fucking nonsense.

>Watame giving Reine a gift because even though she wasn't able to she did her best to try and help
Cute!

SUISEI ARCHIVE

https://mega.nz/file/QGwGmIIL#30__3Y8fVjhgSCL4Nbx1lRhjXpQNw4M6hK8UYOCimB0
https://nyaa.si/view/1332767

Wait, what's the latest Pekora narrative? I missed it.

https://youtu.be/K_kxuAEM6iI

I wish I was 12

>>32668471
>SEAniggers
>western

uba sheepu

>>32668502
taught* sorry, smooth brain fingers

>>32668529
Sexy

>instead of getting covered in lobsters korone has escalated to punching us in the face

>>32668514
>saved Watame from dying
Will Watame join Usadaken now

>>32668481
It's 5 AM in japan

>>32667335
>be employee and shareholder in oil company
>find a massive gold vein while looking for oil
>IGNORE IT WE'RE AN OIL COMPANY
There are times to stay the course and there are times to adapt to changing circumstances. However for a creative professional from an independent background that pays a lot of attention to her fans' needs, an inflexible managerial structure can be suffocating.

>>32667352
Bloom was just a theoretical example anyway. Scheduling and poor management is the type of thing that will cause thousands of little frustrations and missed opportunities that we as the viewer will never recognize but will drive the actual staff insane. For us "what does cover even do lmao" is just a recurring gag but for the girls it's probably a major trouble they have to compensate for on an everyday basis.

>>32668470
>Using Buyee
Bro that shit has failed anons countless times, just use tenso

>>32668302
Nah, to be short falsetto is called like that because it was used to define the voice of castrati (castrated men, who were able to reach an higher pitch), it basically means false.

>>32668547
>5am
>seaniggers

>>32668465
How much does Delta get stuffed in her fanbox? Because she isn't getting anything from YouTube.

which holo has the cutest eigo?

Watame you are too precious

>>32668543
It's still up on her channel, lol

>>32668488
I love Kanatan too! Can't wait for getsuyoru tonight.

>>32668455
Do you think everyone bringing up Miko's baby is a Miko anti too?

>>32668525

>>32668482
Suichan... better hurry before your channel gets fucked...

>>32668449
Do you really expect newfags to know that?

>>32668525
kabaya...
i'm sure someone will notice you someday...
rab u ppt

>>32668471
>>32668502
>giving a fuck about the chat

>>32668482
Suityan...

>>32668413
reminder that the whole job management is to manage. not ok everything their client wants to do blindly.

>>32668514
Moona is extremely loyal to Pekora, she would never do that.

>"Otsumachi! See you next again, have a nice day!"
>Hoshimachi Suisei ends another stream
>"It's kind of painful to intentionally butcher my English like that, but I can't afford to let anyone knows how good my English actually is" she thinks to herself as she stretches her arms, trying to relax her muscles
>She closes her OBS and starts her browser to open a certain site
>"Still joking about Anemachi not being real, huh? Well, I was the one who started that narrative"
>"The best way to lie is telling the truth and acting like it's a joke after all"
>She giggles, happy that once again, everything goes according to her plan just like how she orchestrated the whole INNK incident
>"Now, time to continue my project. I'll grab my can of coffee first"
>She closes her browser, gets up from her chair, and begins searching for a can of coffee that she bought yesterday
>"Ah, there it is"
>She finds it lying around near her countless unorganized trophies and certificates
>"Seeing these makes me remember that I'm actually a genius" she said to herself, showing her narcissistic side
>She sits back on her chair, opens her can of coffee, and starts a certain program
>A MACHINE - ANEMACHI.EXE
>"I wonder how many people realize that "Anemachi" is just an anagram of "A machine". Most vtuber fans are simpletons so I doubt they get even a simple thing like that"
>"Let's do a little test first"
>She clicks a button with the word "Begin"
>"Initializing..."
>"Complete!"
>A virtual woman with a pink hair appears
>"Hello, Sui-chan!"
>She hears a really familiar voice, none other than her own voice
>"Hello onee-chan!" she answered
>"How was your day Sui-chan?"
>"I just finished streaming, I'm happy that I got a lot of new members and superchats today!"
>"Really? I'm glad to hear that!"
>"Thanks onee-chan, see you again!"
>"See you!"
>She closes the program
>"Perfect, she can do a really basic conversation for now. But, there are still so much works to do"
>As she drinks her last drop of coffee, she begins yet another sleepless night of programming her unfinished AI
>"They say a person has two deaths, when their body dies and when somebody says their name for the last time. One day, this "Hoshimachi Suisei" will graduate, but I will make sure that my name will be remembered for eternity. This AI, "Anemachi" will be my eternal successor as the perfect Idol Vtuber"
>"Hoshimachi Suisei will live on forever"

>>32668574
besides korone?

>>32668413
PEKORA LOVE.

>>32668488
Kissing amanekanatach's knee!

>>32668509
Actually, an anime-related company has invested in Cover, so it couldn't be that.
Who knows what will become of that, and whether it'll lead to further work, like a more substantial anime compared to the current shorts.
We can only imagine how crazy it is compared to things that has been part and fully funded so far.

>>32668537
>Pekora is still on her first outfit
That's all on Hagure-mama

>Haaton cooking review and rabbit cooking labeled as made for children
What did Haachama mean by this?

>>32668537
>>Make the 3rd most money overall
Try 1st. Superchat isn't everything.

PEKORA WILL NEVER ADDRESS IT

NOTHING WILL RESULT OF THIS OTHER THAN MULTIPLE SHITTY THREADS

>>32668563
But I made an account for a previous birthday pack and it worked....

Comet....you are forgetting to private something...

>>32668572
She (probably) makes more than Mel and Choco. She's been inclining too, so I assume more than a couple USD grand per month.

>>32668481
Based family

>>32668544
that it's cover's fault that pekora cried.

it's honestly hilarious but she's really just being negative and depressed which lead to her bringing up a lot of shit like cover canceling some of her projects. she even thought people are starting to dislike her and thinks she didn't deserve the superchats

>>32668557
Exactly

>>32668492
>implying I have the knowledge required to do it properly

>>32668525

https://youtu.be/xvWWEyYRnFU
SUPER NENECHI

>>32668572
Around 5.3 million yen a month at the latest count.

>>32667095

Honestly, any translators would "mistranslate" just because there are things that are left to assumption in JP language. But the structure of the language in itself is actually far more direct than English (it's half half between vague-r and more direct). Going off tangent there.

To be fair to Teramachi, he translated the actual words to English speakers, but not the unspoken implied, and most importantly previous contexts.

I wouldn't have not respect Teramachi had he not act so high and might over shitting on JP guy after JP guy and him had a talk where he tried to explain there were previous contexts Teramachi was missing.

For him to completely shit on someone else while simultaneously missing a big context of why Rushia was actually upset, AND not even bother to admit that part of his tweet was wrong (the part where he called out the guy for being not good in JP when he actually was a native).

It's a net negative for English speakers to lose translated clips translators even if the clippers have subpar or even shit JP ability. People have ability to discern and filter anyway.

And someone would have corrected extremely shit translations right away anyway on YT the comment sections. reddit, or here.

What I don't understand off of Teramachi's arrogance of his call out was this. Anybody that have high level of Japanese and have lived in Japan would immediately, immediately recognized the translator way of writing English (his sentence structure) to be so uniquely Japanese-y. How did Teramachi not pick that up immediately was a bit odd to me.

Dude, you're so focused on shitting on them, you missed out on the fact that his EN structure is so Japanese-like???

>>32667155
I don't think Lyger even agreed with Teramachi's interpretation when that happened. But they said it in a subtle way so I can't put words into their mouth because they said so in an indirect manner in a tweet.

>>32668386
I think saying "No" in itself is fine. Why is Pekora that extremely upset for me is the question mark.

Also on that YT member-only comment, a JP nousagi wrote to Pekora there's a difference between「 難しい」 and 「無理」 in society and it's true.

So if management just said "difficult" and not "impossible" why is she that outwardly upset and unable to hold back?

No was fine, but was she not given any other alternative that could still accomplish her intention?

Though I'm not a Nousagi that managed to watch the member stream. Just that 3 minutes clip, so I don't really care all that much past today about this drama.

all the money and friends in the world can't stop you from getting depressed...

>>32668574
oh yes Luna's english is the best oh yes

>>32668545
>Says on the BOTW stream that she's not interested in anyone if they're underage
Make up your mind Noel

>>32668557
Suisei has some really supportive parents.

>>32668542
Got one for Kanata too.

>>32668574
luna

>>32668537
Knowing she was crying because of Cover itself sucks. I assumed it was a family member passing, and i'm glad that isn't the case, but she was crying cause of *Cover Corp*.

TANIGO HATE

>>32668537
With how close those margins are Pekora is probably the most profitable Holo.
Views are a pretty substantial part of revenue on Youtube, even if most Holos are disproportionately skewed towards supacha.

>>32668627
>Comet....you are forgetting to private something...
You wanna try that again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dG-pt3jTjr4

>It's soon 6AM in Nipland and Watame is playing Minecraft

Reminder that Yagoo is syphoning all of the supacha money into a shitty online game that will probably never actually release instead of greenlighting projects for the talents, improving their 3D tech, and making more events and original content starring online personalities that have exploded in popularity over the past year.
COVER HATE

>>32668537
What is she gonna do, cry about it?

>>32668509
it's quite possible, the only real problem is that pekora preferred to complain about it publicly instead, which might be a character flaw, but might as well be a way to try and circumvent a company structure which is hostile. i sure as fuck don't know, but despite everything i don't really see pekora as the type of person to throw a tantrum like that for no reason whatsoever.

>>32668526

Is Adam Levine Suityan's oshi?

>>32668613
Not really. They don't need to have any loyalty to one person for work.

Someone uploaded pekora's member-only stream on Niconico. Search ホロライブ tag and sort uploaded date.

>>32668504
Overseas expansion kinda cost a lot. South East Asia other than Singapore is not known for easy bureaucracy

I just woke up and the archive privated right as I want it that way started, what else did suzy sing?

>>32668465
>become indie
>can stream Dragon quest
hmm this might be alright

Btw, total views after Suisei's stream
>79,763 views

Adblockgumi are big english comet fans

>>32668666
>she hasn't even started building her janken machine

>>32668482
Friend...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABrv4AcYEBo

The ninjisanji facebook chat running wild at almost 4am talking about how evil cover corporation made pekore cry

Fucking kek

Suisei archive (though it's not privated yet), video playable in browser
https://mega.nz/folder/EF9UFZxa#u4DIso-RtXwqdCK5eJJfFw

>>32668642
Jun's dicking could... It was the only way...

Why is she not sleeping

>>32668557
Both her parents are secretly members, she doesn't even know which one or when they did it but her mom talked about stuffs that happened on her member streams a lot

*ahem*
Pekora's a whore!

>>32668615
Youtube is being fucky with your account, probably.
Unsub her and resub her, it tends to fix that stupid shit.

>>32668508

>>32668654
>Suisei has some really supportive parents.
More like mama wanted to laugh at her English

>>32668443
>ignore women
already am

>>32668574
Soda-can.

Why do EOPs believe that yagoo is literally in charge of ALL of Hololive?

Here's some advice to you all:

towappi

Where is this Pekora project narrative coming from?

>>32668574
Fubuki

>>32668684
>Overseas expansion kinda cost a lot
Why? There's no reason why it should. The only real expense is hiring a local manager. There was one indonesian manager for gen 1, there might be more now. A vtuber costs less then 10,000 dollars to set up. They make that back from a single decent stream.

Yagoo is a whore

>>32668574
https://files.catbox.moe/vp45zr.webm

>>32668666
Big plan

>>32668681
Excellent, time for this to blow up into another big yab. Hololive hasn't had one yet this year.

>>32668666
*plays up minecraft for 5 hours*
>superchat time!
>but first, let's go world cup!
>talk about unrelated shit for 2 hours
>eat 5 different bags of chips given by watamates
>finishes reading supas at 9am
>shitposts on twitter for 2 hours before going to sleep
BIG PLANS INCOMING

I can't believe Cover is using (Your) supacha money to send supacha themselves to make the Holos look more profitable than they really are and try to make simps one up themselves by donating even more...
I bet all those sad supacha watame gets are from YAGOO himself personally to try and get others to feel bad and send supacha to cheer her up
It only makes sense

>>32668699
>The ninjisanji facebook chat
whut

>at almost 4am

fucking seanigs

>>32668662
I like Coco, and Rushia, but Pekora is far more valuable globally. Pekora is already the most popular in Japan and she is a huge EOP/international viewer magnet.

>>32668707
Anon she's not even in the supacha & crying part yet.

You wouldn't an elf, right?

>>32668733
fucking OW

>>32668561
precisely, it's probably in reality not "what does cover even do lmao" but the fact that they probably do a lot of stuff - and a bunch of inneficient shit and stupid crap which we don't get to see but that must be nerve-wracking for the workers

>RAG playing APEX again
Top 3 finish next time for sure.

>>32668613
Yeah I'm sure she is refusing to draw new outfits for her

>>32668666
This is how you tell a sheeposter from a Watamate

>>32668613
It's unironically on Pekora herself. She's been rejecting every design so far.

>>32668641
Now THIS is actual reddit spacing. Format your post like a normal person please.

>>32668713
I've seen a few other people mention it so it's not just on my end

Pekora most likely wanted to do some stupid clickbait shit like "GIVING 100万 YEN TO A NOUSAGI (real)"

>>32668729
Yagoo was Mel's manager that stalked her

>>32668481
>papamachi also wanted her to sing some Beatles songs
If she did I would nut

What’s the newest rrat on Pekora bros?

>>32668764
i would

Today may be the day I turn my questions about Cover into legitimate doubts about them. How can I support them without being aware of them being the worst standard for a virtual idol agency as this thread puts it?

>its covers fault that pekora cry
Need to stop sending superchats and stop support hololive until they become indies

Fuck cover fuck yagoo

>>32668722
Yeah, that as well.

>>32668761
>Pekora is already the most popular in Japan
Not even close, at most she's the 6th most popular streamer and she's actively reclining

>>32668603
you need meds but so do I

Pekora has always been a diva
Why are you all surprised?

>>32668794
I've never sent a superchat in my life

>>32668764
I don't support cross breeding

>>32668386
Yagoo's niece here. Pekora wanted to hold an IJN revival event with Moona swearing loyalty on the behalf of ID, then call for all non-ethnic Japenese being moved to Hokkaido.

>>32668639
When is Nene going to get her redesign?

Is cover the worst vtuber company right now?

Nobody else can be worse than them right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8OjkcLzYCM
WOAH OH
WOAH OH OH

>>32668681
ugh fuck... it never ends....

>>32668537
Pekora was literally the 4th most watched female streamer in the world for 2020.
Cover is on some wack shit.

What's this about Pekora getting suspended?

>>32668419
I will never forgive Towa.

>>32668692
You only need to watch 30 seconds to be a view. I stopped watching as soon as backstreet boys ended.

>>32668764

>>32668795
As far as we know they denied a project at worst

Towa is a whore
Pekora is a whore
Yagoo is a whore

no fuck I overslept and missed Suisei's utawaku

>>32668481
Based Papa.

>>32668574
Sora, Kanata, Pekora

>>32668827
She didn't

>>32668764
I would

>Watame delivering a gift to Kanatan and Reine
The sheep never forgets those who aid and those who slight.

>>32668789
I don't know if it's true but a lot of the anons here hinted it was a 1 month suspension over a disagreement with management and I think that sounds about right due to how bad the members only video was.

>people just waking up to how shit Cover is

>>32668794
Have the Chinese woken up already?

>>32668764
>look through Lamy fanart
>all have thick thighs

Pekora probably wanted to do another fan greeting thing and cover told her no due to corona.

Is it true that Pekora is taking a break? There is nothing on her twitter

>>32668537
What are you on about? The Holos have no say in any matter they are the lowest employee at cover maybe above the cleaning personal.
Before you retarded cover fans start shouting at me:
Take a look at the recent Twitter Posts of Korone. Korone is the Holo with the most YouTube subs and constantly a super high viewer base. She probably makes the most money with ads and contracts for cover.
Yet she has to attend day longs emergency meetings?
Cover>Manager>Holo>Cleaning Personal
So is the salary.
Read this
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-music
My guess is that they have long term contracts with Cover that bind them. That would also explain the breakdowns they constantly have. They can't quit because the penalties are simply to harsh and see no way out -> breakdown/burnout.

>>32668470
Sign up for Tenso or just use Geekjack tomorrow

>>32668845
She said NOTHING about a one month suspension, she said she was taking a break, no indication of how long, the implication was until she felt better

>>32668794
I don't do SCs, I was thinking about it, but after today, I'm not doing it at all. You guys were right. It is cucked behavior. Bless you, anon.

>>32668846
If you never realized this from the Holocaust and Aloe shitshow I don't know what to tell you

>>32668815
Ichikara is 10 times worse

>>32668502
Non-Americans grow up constantly being fed American media, so it's impossible for them to ignore the fact that there are other countries out there beside their own. Especially if they're a small country which is heavily dependent on other countries for resources or in military endeavors, and where a short drive gets them to one or several borders.

Americans don't grow up with some other country's media, their country is self-reliant and it's fucking huge.

I'm not saying this because "FUCK YEAH AMERICA" but the truth is that you honestly shouldn't give a shit about some country on the other side of the world. They have nothing to do with you. It's bad enough that most countries today are so large there's no real communal unity within them.

Except Japan, you can care about them because they're cute.

why do they have to archive karaoke streams?
more people need to listen to that amazing voice

>>32668761
>Pekora is already the most popular in Japan
She never was.

>>32668815
They're not as bad as people make them to be. They're just too good at finding retarded managers.

>>32668833

Seek solace in Sora. No drama, no narratives, just singing and cuteness

>>32668822
I'd eat it for Mel, if it made her happy.

Pekora should do a fanbox, Cover doesn't deserve shit if they ignore her projects.

>>32665361
Do you remember when Peko was explaining what a supacha is to Pekomom? She was going to say "They send them because they love me", just to being interrupted by mama who said "They send them to show their support?", what Pekora immediately agreed with. Just look at this girl, who feels helpless when her chat frozes, who always asks the opinion of her fans, who makes surveys to give them a voice, who keeps doing the banter routine in some of her streams. This little, vulnerable girl who can't keep her mind for herself and feels the obligation to make a members only stream, just to feel loved and comforted. And she can't stop crying because of that, the girl who's always making fun of herself, who comically claims she's an idol and not a comedian. That girl, who many of us love and respect, is all by herself suffering, nt being able to share her pain with anybody at home since she never did it before. This lonely girl, who clearly doesn't have any emotional support besides a group of faceless fans has to endure being isolated on a employment dispute, because nobody is going to risk their jobs just to show support for her. This is the same girl we love so much and we can't help right now

moona didn't get a gift lmao

I can't take seriously the word big plans anymore, fuck all of you.

>>32668764
Marry, impregnate, and love forever? Yes I would!

I don't understand the Rushia yab, the dude was 100% right.

>>32668844
But Reine did nothing and Watame ignored Kanata...

>>32668845
This narrative is actually retarded if you think about it logically. Cover suspending a talent literally costs them money(and quite a lot at that)

Pekora probably realizes that and is taking a break to screw cover over

>>32668886
copyright

>>32668886
Because they can get their accounts banned.

>>32668815
The one that just disbanded I forgot the name. But Cover is good enough for 2nd and is probably 1st right now.
>>32668830
All the more a reason for Pekora to go indie. She will have unconditional support then.

Take the bug pill

Cover has been shitty since they decided to leave Aloe alone and kicked her from the company.

I'll never forgive Cover for what they did to Aloe

>>32668572
She doesnt get anything from youtube because she doesnt hace super chat allowed.
Shed be banking if she did

>>32668791
>>32668843
>>32668859
>>32668912
Consider this then. What if you get her pregnant? You wouldn't want your son to be a faggy quarter elf, would you?

>>32668471
what did they do that made you upset? it was just the normal I love you, clap hands and please sing X

>>32668910

>Pekora will quit and others will follow
>Pekora is the most profitable member
>being indie is so much better
>manager bad
nice déjà vu

>>32668865
Why are you linking some irrelevant bullshit about music.

>>32668914
>the dude was 100% right.
thats why she cried

>>32668845
No, it was just one schizo trying to force his narrative. There was absolutely nothing to indicate a suspension.

>>32668673
> the only real problem is that pekora preferred to complain about it publicly instead

Well for one she's young. Young people do stupid stuffs. Older people do too.

Two, she didn't do so publicly. She did it on a member-only stream which I would bet would get deleted later on. We non-nousagi on 4chan got an unlisted 3 minutes clip so regardless of how accurate we narrate, it's still not a complete picture of what was already available and in itself vague.

>Takes 30% of superchat money
>Does nothing to help Coco fight the changs
>Makes Pekora cry
Tanigo HATE

Anyone wish they were Watame? Imagine playing minecraft whole night getting paid instead of wageslaving like a normie

>>32668879
>Ichikara is 10 times worse
How can one anon be so wrong? Ichikara funds so much more new outfits, new 3D models, new concerts and new merch for their livers compared to Cover

>>32668914
What did he said?

>>32668830
Haven't been here long huh buddy? This is hardly the first issue to come up

>>32668886
Eigo songs and copyright anonchama

>>32668845
if they suspended her for 1 month after this, that would explode things.

>>32668681
pekora's fault for pitying her fans against cover

>>32668681
I’m just wondering
Would someone like NRKM be able to use whatever information is in that as a basis for a video on this?

IT'S MATSURI BIRTHDAY

>>32668642
This is a lie made up by narcissists to make themselves feel better about continuing to whore attention even when they have everything they could ever possibly want
Shut the fuck up you subhuman, don't talk about shit you don't understand.

So we all agree to stop superchatting and buying merch right? I expect to see cancelled memberships as well.

>>32668717
Twap is pure idol

>>32668820
This is better sheep song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I3oQIF6UaU

>>32668827
Disagreement with management it seems. It must have been the worst one yet that maybe Pekora stepped out of line big time.

>>32668906
She did.

>>32668860
That doesn't result in crying mid-stream

>>32668424
I really, really love my Porca Orka !!

>>32668815
>aloe getting kicked
>the whole coco fiasco
>not getting permissions causing the whole holocaust

Yeah definitely. Cover doesn't deserve all the profit they got last year.

>>32668884
>amerimutts believe this

>>32668951
>merch
like clockwork

>Watame's Big Plans
>get mocked
>Pekora's Big Plans
>everyone acting like it must have been something amazing and not stupid despite Pekora having less talent that Watame's pinky

NOOO DONT GO WATAME
I'LL BE BACK WITH THE BAD THOUGHTS AGAIN IF YOU GO
PLEAS STAY

Who else busted a nut to Pekora crying?

>>32668613
i wish she'd fucking get of her ass and give pekora new outfits already, lazy bitch

>>32668743
>Why? There's no reason why it should.
Setting up a branch company as a foreign entity is kinda expensive in past-colonialized part of the world.

>>32668887
Other than Jun who does better than Pekora? It's constantly him or her at the top.

>>32668641
>No was fine, but was she not given any other alternative that could still accomplish her intention
It may be similar to the Watame situation where management decided her character wasn't lewd and there was nothing she could do about it. If I was a nousagi I'd be suggesting Pekora have a talk with Coco about dealing with management.

>>32668933
KoroMiko is the best collab duo, I hope they collab again soon.

>>32668680
>Not really. They don't need to have any loyalty to one person for work.
That's quite literally how the costumes work, they're made by the original artist and then rigged by a single person

>>32668961
WASSHOI LOVE

>>32668844
When are Kanata and Watame playing Minecraft again, it's been a year since the last time...

>>32668846
They're tourists complete new to idol culture, they'll learn it the hard way sooner or later.

>>32668944
lol holofags just realising that pekora has always been a shameless gold digger, she realised that she won't grow any more under hololive so it's time to dip, she'll cry some crocodile tears to rile up the simps then become an indie and cash in on them

>>32668914
What happened?

>>32668990

https://streamable.com/hoceq3

>>32668987
Cover is really rotten to the core. Honestly the worst I've ever seen

>>32668964
t. Retard

>>32668929
Cover actively went back to her several times to offer her guarantees of her safety.
It is her that turned them down those multiple times. She didn't want to be a burden on the rest of them.
This was well before all her mad mental issues came out in full. She'd have lost it even if that shit never happened, she was a ticking time bomb.

>>32668816
In a week

>>32668946
He shut down the chink branch so at least he had momentarily grown a spine.

>>32668603
why are hoshiyomi like this

>>32668386
Could be something that is difficult because of Covid-19 restrictions

>>32668969
I don't base what I spend my money on around autistic internet crusades and a vague idea of "morals" defined by board leeches
So no. There is no ethical consumption under catpitalism, and if you ever truly had a concern for the wellbeing of those associated with your purchases you'd be vegan.

BIG 2021 DRAMA COMING UP

Haven't been to this thread for a couple months, you guys are still here? Hololive is normalfag shit now, why do you keep going?

GEE Suisei's English was pretty good.
Maybe her voice fits English songs.

>retards blaming Cover
I know its just really dumbshits falling for narratives but damn how naive can you be.

>>32668987
Can't even hire moderators for Coco to redeem themselves.

Cover is a wreck

>>32668929
>hey it's been over a month are you ready to come back?
>no and I will never work for a company again
>okay good bye
BLACK COMPANY

>>32668932
The price we pay for love

>>32668865
Holy shit, that's corporate fucking slavery. I hope Pekora can get out of it with as much help as she needs. We the fans could do something about it.

>>32668995
At least they support whatever their streamers want to do, even if it's making funny merch. Pekora can't even do what she wants while being the company's top star. That would never happen at Nijisanji.

>>32669032
t. white 15 year old living in a mcmansion with his two lawyer parents posting "I'm depressed" on his snapchat story because his mom wouldn't let him drive her hummer to the local frat covid party

>>32668978
ahem
https://youtu.be/i6woCvMq5Xg

>everyone agreed that pekora was hiding the real problem and simply blamed management to give a reason to the worried fans
>now the narrative is that pekora actually said what she meant and bawled her eyes out just because management didn't give her what she wanted
Why are nousagis so retarded?

>>32668983
Not a single project would result in crying mid stream, something else is going on.

Watame isn't crying today...

>>32669002
aqua

>>32668954
In this particular pekora case that seems to be the issue

アンタの推しが本当に好ききなら、どうして日本語がまだ分からないのか。

>not reading superchat

As a gachikoi of my oshi, I wonder how she feels about superchats. I'm kinda getting conscious of throwing superchats now.

>>32669048
it's just falseflaggers and actual nijishills

>>32668920
Reine summoned Moona

>>32669006
Why do you assume they set up a branch company instead of just working with them directly? Even if they did, no way it costs thousands or millions of dollars in a poor country like Indonesia

>>32669048
Yeah it's not like Cover has fucked up constantly from the very beginning or anything, why would we blame them

>>32668987
Fuck I can't wait for Cover to go under. The girls will do so much better without them.

>>32668969
>we

>>32668887
Carried the brand both in Japan and in Southeast Asia. Possibly the same in America as well. Top 5 streamer in terms of views worldwide. You're delusional.
>>32668903
We need to pitch in fellow Nousagibro.

>>32668929
>Cover has been shitty since they decided to leave Aloe alone and kicked her from the company.
Oh wow, it's the "Cover fired Aloe" narrative, a tried and true nijinigger favourite. May I interest you in a certain subreddit instead good sir?

>>32669048
>actually defending cover
Go watch Niji if you want to bootlick corporation.

>>32668789
>rrat
ogey

>>32668865
>Yet she has to attend day longs emergency meetings?
That's just cultural Anon. You can't guess hierarchy or income based on meetings. Japanese for some reason do long meetings.

Just an hour ago people were quite sure that Pekora's story is a coverup for the actual reason she stopped a stream and was a complete mess, and that she couldn't have been this emotional just because of some disagreement with a company. Suddenly the thread fills with people who use her statement as leverage to shit on Cover not even questioning if what she said is the actual reason anymore, and not even taking into the account that she said nothing of substance at all. And it's exactly the same rhetoric as we've seen with Coco's suspension - that she doesn't need them and so on. Don't forget who your real enemies are anons. Hate for Cover is justified but you are jumping to conclusions and putting other holos down for no reason.

>>32668944
good point, young people are dumb, but it started with a public outburst — she cried, after all. Either one interprets that and cynical maquiavellian pekora just acting to get some attention, or something probably is kinda messed up

>>32669013
They've switched talents before, they can do it again.
There's no exclusivity clauses, Cover isn't that fucking stupid.

>>32668865
Cue the libertarians flocking in saying "SHOULDN'T HAVE SIGNED THE CONTRACT THEN"

>>32668525
>it’s

>>32669077
Demo wakaru yo...

pekora probably would've killed herself by now without cover, ungrateful bitch

>only 7 hours of Minecraft today

>>32668987
When will coco start up her own vtuber company.

Honestly the only thing that I don't like about Hololive is Cover itself. It's too disgusting

>>32668920
They tried their best. the will was there and Kanata just logged in a bit to late, at that point Moona was already right there and Watame had to do her best to explain the situation in eigo

>>32668987
The permission arc was entirely fabricated by people who hate hololive though. Don't you remember the whole Korone Banjo Kazooie drama? The fucking company that made the game said it was okay but people still trolled her to the point she stopped playing

>>32669048
Fuck off Yagoo, your company is ran by genuine retards.

>>32668865
>https://thebaffler.com/salvos/the-problem-with-music
If you're gonna take my link from the previous thread don't fucking embarrass me

>>32668729
He is in charge but that doesn't mean he actually knows everything that is going on

>>32669009
>where management decided her character wasn't lewd
lol what

>>32668969
the merch has a manufacturing cost, buy voice packs instead

>>32669105
not reading

>>32668386
Rather than something they can't do it could've just have been something they deemed as unprofitable. Just because Pekora made the money doesn't mean they can just use it on her however they want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84cxHgfRq5Y

>>32669039
She probably wants "meet and greets" event. since she can directly give her fans something.

>>32669054
I still don't get what's supposed to be hot about this

>>32668932
gender is irrelevant, as long as my offspring are cute

>>32668865
You realize their "superiors" also have to sit through those meetings? They aren't meeting each other you fucking retard.

>>32668865
>they can't quit
They can, they'll just get their persona completely deleted and they have to cut ties with cover, kaoru quitted and in his case he ended up better

>>32668946
It's probably way more than 30% too. Mea said it's closer to 70 or 80 when she did her vid about the dark side of corporate virtual idol culture back in June.

>>32669063
Actually I'm yuro, you retarded wanker

>>32668985
There he is. There he goes again

Look everyone he posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?? Oh my god.

I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room giggling like a little girl as you once again type your little 'Porka' joke up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don’t even fill in the captcha, maybe you’re such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass so you just choose the picture. Oh we all know the picture, the uh epic porka orca isn’t it? I imagine you, little shit, laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos onto the floor. But its ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh that’s right, did I fail to mention? You live with your mother! You’re a fat fucking fuck up and she’s probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all god damn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about a dumb Porka joke. Just imagine this, she had you and then she thought you were going to be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand and then you became a NEET. A pathetic Porka joke NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can’t even talk to you because all you say is "HAHA PORKA ORCA FAT".

You became a parody of your own self. And that’s all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he’s done a million times now.

>>32669048
>Can't hire moderators for Coco's chat
>Can't get permissions for shit
Let's not pretend cover is good either

>>32668879
Not really, they're just hands-off to a fault.

>>32668815
>Ichikara's retarded management, to the point where Maimoto of all people had to try and defuse the Roa-Meiro situation
>The whole Roa-Meiro situation
>NijiKR
>NijiCN suspending over half of their members due to bullying
>Bullying in the main branch
>Rampant sexual harassment at 774
>Everything related to the former upd8
Nah

you know, if it was a family member sick i'd understand why Pekora was sad, but this is somehow worse.
>COVER made Pekora cry

Narratives, narratives, X is bad, Y is good...
It's time to leave this shithole for good.

>>32669048
i prefer to side with talents, the actual people that entertain me, rather than impersonal structures that supposedly manage them, but maybe that's too much empathy for this hellhole

I really like this, narratives everywhere for me to enjoy.

>>32669124
People steal my pictures all the time

>>32669033
Not to mention Aloe still follows hololive at least a tiny bit.

>>32669131
Sorry about your brain damage.

>>32669120
It was cover's fault for thinking they could get away with profiting from other people's work while being a fully registered company

Not getting permissions is the dumbest thing they ever did and will always be

>>32669110
BIG STAR...

>>32664584
They're the same afaik, airy/breathy is technique related.
What part of the Meltdown cover do u consider to be falsetto and not head?

>>32669138
>>>/hm/
>>>/y/

>>32669081
I hope you've been with her long enough for her to remember you from the days she was struggling instead of just being disgusting oji-san with money.

When is our guy going to shit on Cover for this

>>32669102
Don't forget the paperwork they have to do as well. It's not all fun and games. This shit is a job like any other. They need to manage their finances, their project goals and other shit, write up project proposals to put to management, some of which has been shot down before, plenty of times (ideas for streams most common shutdowns, based on various zatsudans over the years)

>>32669161
>siding with women

>>32669009
I really don't think Pekora should have talked about it on stream. But whoever it was that tell her no should have had the hindsight to not contact Pekora while she was on stream.

The level of retardation of Subaru's videos deletion, and calling Pekora in the middle of a stream is really high.

>>32668958
I'm afraid it's so.
>>32668969
That's exactly what we're doing. Yes.>>32669040
>>32669098
Fuck off consoomers.
>>32668987
They really are a black company. OUTFUCKINGSTANDING mental gymnastics going on to disprove otherwise.

>>32669144
>2 homos that retired (not kira) are doing faaar better being normal streamers
Homo debuff is insane.

Eurohours are the good hours they said...

So the manager bad is the narrative right now?

>>32669105
The only intelligent post in this thread.

>>32668509
>Pekora most likely wanted some beyond retarded shit like a short anime that Cove obviously doesn't have the connections to create
We literally can't know what it is. Why do so many of you speculate wildly and talk as though you're probably right?

>sheep lost to the dog

If you guys hate cover so much then why don't you start your own idol company?

Anya is based? Is it true her chat is awful?
https://youtu.be/nNmfyQzUPsY

I want Watame to punch me as hard as she can but I don't think she'd punch very hard.

If you read a post saying "x would do better as an indie" or "x should start her own company" and take it seriously as if it wasn't a nijinigger or a falseflagger, let me tell you how much of a braindead moron you are, please drop dead.

anons who kept saying "hololive is getting boring, we need another yab", are you happy now?

>>32669105
The funny thing is that a little bit of transparency would make all these debacles negligible

>>32669158
Maimoto had to bail in the end, because they started to turn on him

>>32669110
BIG_URUHA_BREED

>>32669168
Yep. Although she hilariously left her Hololive playlist public when she started making her streams public until someone mentioned it.

Do not fall for bait, everyone shitting on cover now is a nijifag. Actual nousagis know that pekora has deeper problems than some dumb disagreement

>>32669189
if you hate women so much go to the holostars thread, they're pretty cool as well

>>32669033
>trusting Cover when they "assure" you anything
Nah Aloe is just smart enough not to get suckered back into that black company lmao

>>32669120
Cope. It's literally because they deny permissions all the time. This is why Indies will always be the best off.

>>32669158
This...all of this! Jap companies are just trash. Always have been.

>>32669184
I was there when she was still a sub-100k Vtuber

>>32669033
>before all her mad mental issues
What mental issues? New here. Not staying long either. Just here because of the lockdown.

Why are seaweed and pizza still playing Apex?
hasn't this tournament been over for hours now

>>32669181
The high parts of meltdown used falsetto while the high parts of frozen used her full head voice.

Airy vs textured. Simple as. It's not that hard to differentiate.

>>32668758
>>32668815
>>32668794
>>32668846
>>32668901
>>32668929
>>32668951
>>32668987
>>32669030
>>32669049
>>32669092
>>32669095
>>32669118
>>32669155
Holy fucking shit every time a drama happens. At least wait for an explanation instead of starting to fling shit right away.

>>32668815
How do we convince upd8 or another company to storm the cover office and take them over?