/jp/ - Otaku Culture

my nihongo level jumped when i quit wanikani. now i just plug it into google translate and that’s usually good enough to get the gist. really good for long sentences that are hard to understand.

https://streamable.com/u7p52c

Actual guide: https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/

Reading first, then ANKI?

or

ANKI first, then reading?

>>34000452
nice got to almost 50 seconds in before the 1st thing i ddint understand
im really makin progress

>>34000473
anki but i never do it until the last hour anwyay

>>34000463
wrong thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9yl-4pQ4Ok

new video from jojo 50 times guy lets gooooo

>>34000480
im surprised you watched it for that long

>>34000566
lets gooooooooooo

>>34000459
at this point, linking this is like sharing that stoats fooney guide

>>34000566
holy cringe

>>34000566
gmi
wouldve been better without the matt worshiping

>>34000566
he gets lots of comments for the views he gets

just mined 乳輪

>>34000744
he's probably going to make it into a big youtuber if he keeps on a regular schedule.

"it's not like i used anki to learn english either"
lmao

holy shit he got 500k views on his quitting duolingo video

>>34000566
>mishima
why do all these retarded yters love him

>>34000817
alt right aggressively promote him

>>34000790
dumb argument cuz english doesnt have kanji

>>34000840
it has bespoke spelling which is harder

>>34000840
this assumes people couldnt learn japanese without anki

>>34000854
no it doesn't i think you can learn everything until the really stupid stuff that doesn't show up often enough

>>34000832
i dont know why tho cause his writing is not particularly right wing, i mean the book he shows in the video is about a kid who is incredibly gay and was pissed off when he found out jean d'arc was a woman after he jerked off over a pic of her

pierce the japanese heavens anon

>>34000312
awesome OP again, nice to see

>>34000884
give me examples of this in english that you wont come across but need to know

>>34000884
i dont use anki but i can read 卒塔婆

>>34000886
the promoters dont read the books, just hyped by the circumstances that led to his death. then gullible bakas actually read them.

tf is the difference between 思い切り and 思いっきり? they just look like variations of one another

yea 卒塔婆 is a shit example i knew that 1 without adding to anki
rare words where there are no reading hints in the kanji and the reading isnt distinctive are much harder like 裲襠 (うちかけ) but theres no reason why you'd ever want to know shit like that

>>34000913
explain why this invalidates the chart

>>34000963
its a just a bad example

how does 思いっきり translate to "with all of one's strength; to one's own content; as much as one can etc., but the jp definition is just あきらめること。the translation isn't making all that much sense to me

>>34000963
he learned it without anki. the chart invalidates itself by being HR tier pseudoscience. doesn't even have scales for the axes because it's not based on data, just made it up

>>34000994
>google 思いっきり 意味
>全力で、または本気で、物事に取りかかる様子を意味する語。

>>34000992
give me some examples in english and i'll ask esls who have never heard of anki if they can understand it

>>34000994
おもいきり【思い切り】
[１]　あきらめること。「―が悪い」
[２]（副）したいと思うだけ。存分に。「―身体を動かす」

>>34000963
it doesnt because that chart invalidates its self fro the start
word acquisition has nothing to do with how often one sees a word but whether or not they understood the context of where that word was being used
if you didnt mine every word in anki you would find out that sometimes you can see a word once and it just sticks

>>34000994
your problem isnt that you dont understand 思いっきり its that you dont understand 切る

>>34001041
>if you didnt mine every word in anki you would find out that sometimes you can see a word once and it just sticks
this enrages djt

sometimes the words i am too lazy to mine stick better than the ones i actually mine

another one who needs cure dolly in his life

>>34001047
you are correct, i gave up trying to directly learn it because all of its meanings. it's biting me in the ass now

dolly is my favorite vtuber

>>34001011
>he learned it without anki
so what? the chart doesn't claim you CANNOT learn those words without anki just that their acquisition is not reliable due to their low frequency
i'll accept that 卒塔婆 is a bad example because you can guess the reading and nouns are generally easier to acquire especially when they don't refer to abstract concepts

>>34001041
>word acquisition has nothing to do with how often one sees a word
it should be obvious that in general the more often you see a word the more likely acquisition becomes
that you also have to understand it in the context should be given as part of the input hypothesis, you have to understand the message
the fact that there are situations where you see a word for the first time and it just sticks is once again the exception and not the rule especially when you're dealing with a kanji reading that's not intuitive

>>34001096
just give me examples in english and you will see how retarded this concept is lmao. you wont do it!

>>34001108
examples of what?

>>34001118
english words that an ESL in the Daily English Thread won't acquire without anki

written japanese is impossible to understand. not subtitled dialogue like in vns or anime,but shit like novels

>>34000473
reading first always

>>34001141
its not you just suck

>>34000473
reading only no anki

>>34001126
concomitantly
catallactic

anki only. no reading because you get your immersion from your premade sentence cards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRv8LETlTY4

legst gooo

>>34001166
>concomitantly
>catallactic

you absolutely do not need to acquire these words lmao. must be esl who crammed for TOEFL

>>34001141
japanese is just a language

>>34001182

>>34001166
lived in us for 25 yrs never came across either of those words before

>>34001166
you're going to sound like a sperg and not be understood if you try to say either of those to almost every native speaker

>>34001184
>you absolutely do not need to acquire these words lmao
yeah move the goalpost harder

>>34001182
>refold open in one of his tabs

https://youtu.be/NfVScr30e2I?t=177

what japanese proverb is he referencing?

>>34001166
>concomitantly
>catallactic
you can absolutely acquire these words without anki.
want me to prove it to you?
i just acquired those words without anki.
so nice self own, retard.
you dont acquire words through anki, you acquire them by listening to/reading stuff from native speakers

native here ive heard/read concomitantly a few times in my life

nothing cringier than hamplanet tkyo forcing interactions

>>34001246
>i just acquired those words without anki.
no you didn't you just read them once thanks for proving that you don't know what you're talking about and what acquisition means

>>34001210
you're the one pushing that bullshit graph. in reality you only need flashcards to get to basic fluency. then you can drop it forever. if you want to collect the japanese equivalent of words like "concomitantly" and "catallactic" you might have a personality disorder

>>34001182
wow this is painful to watch

>>34001168
>>34000473
this, but unironically

as was shown, there are in fact english words you are UNLIKELY to acquire without anki
whether you "need" those words is completely irrelevant, in fact i don't think you need anki in japanese either if you only want to acquire the words that you "need"
the point is that if you want to go full autist, you probably need anki

>>34001262
>if you want to collect the japanese equivalent of words like "concomitantly" and "catallactic" you might have a personality disorder
again, that's just your personal opinion on what words you want to learn and not the point at all

>>34001297
you're unlikely to learn them because they're not even used! why do you want to learn words very few native speakers know. 9999 out of 10000 native speakers are not going to be able to give you a definition for either of those

>>34001260
another self-own.
how is reading the word once in your post different than using anki?
i guess you expect me to first see the word in the appropriate context, right?
but i never had any difficulties remembering english words that i heard in context once.
so why do i need anki again?

>>34001182
i do not miss being a beginner

>>34001096
>it should be obvious that in general the more often you see a word the more likely acquisition becomes
i agree with this because the more you see a word the more chances there are for acquisition to happen
>you also have to understand it in the context should be given as part of the input hypothesis, you have to understand the message
its not that if a message is comprehensible you have a chance of acquiring but its more like if a message is truly comprehensible you will acquire said word or phrase
>the fact that there are situations where you see a word for the first time and it just sticks is once again the exception and not the rule
i dont think so as long as the message was truly comprehensible
>especially when you're dealing with a kanji reading that's not intuitive
this i can understand but i cannot say that therefore you cannot learn this reliably without anki because an advance learner shouldnt have much trouble since they understands how kanji can work sometimes

>>34001317
>why do you want to learn words very few native speakers know
because it's fun? what more reason do i need?
>9999 out of 10000 native speakers are not going to be able to give you a definition for either of those
couldn't care less what other people know or don't know

basically rare words have no relevancy in achieving fluency since the average native speaker isn't likely to know them either

if you dont know concomitantly and catallactic you are a pre beginner

the problem here is that some people talk about functional fluency where you only need the shit that most people know and some people are talking about the autistic complete the pokedex route

>>34001342
>couldn't care less what other people know or don't know
you should probably care because we live in a society, language is a communication tool and its pointless if you throw around big words that nobody knows. you might as well just speak chinese to them.

went from beginner to native japanese in like 8 months

stfu

>>34001351
i know the latter but not the former

>>34001369
especially if it's your second language and you're talking to a native. who the fuck are you throwing around words you only know because you read the dictionary like a novel

>>34001369
why do you assume that just because someone knows a big word they'll also use it in conversation lol
maybe they just want to be able to pick up a book and understand catallactic when they come across it

>>34001369
>language is a communication tool
not him but language is also the canvas of an artist

>>34001378
you sure you're not confusing it for catalytic?

or cadillactica by big krit

>>34001369
>>34001386
stay uneducated seething brainlets

>>34001398
i did
thanks for correcting me

>>34001340
>if a message is truly comprehensible you will acquire said word or phrase
i really don't think this is an absolute
you can truly comprehend a message with a phrase, not hear that phrase for a few months, then hear it in a different context and not immediately comprehend it

btw i wonder if the average english speaker even knows words like fornication​(姦淫)

dont have any interest in talking to people
just like me difficult reading materials
simple as

>>34001388
>maybe they just want to be able to pick up a book and understand catallactic when they come across it

now this is just hilarious.
so you dont actually need anki after all, you just read the book and acquire "catallactic" the natural way.

but imagine all the time saved by spending hours droning anki over picking up the dictionary when you come across the word

>>34001436
this

>>34001435
yes
fornication is something you hear all the time in media that has religious stuff even the simpsons uses it probably

yeah don't care finna coom to eroge now

>>34001453
lmao true

>>34001435
fornication yeah
cajolement​ probably not

>>34001432
>you can truly comprehend a message with a phrase, not hear that phrase for a few months, then hear it in a different context and not immediately comprehend it
i agree but that might be due to a different meaning or usage of said phrase

lot of low vocab copers itt

fornication is like the kind of word you see in the middle of that anki usefulness graph.

>>34001476
same

i read those words and purposefully did not acquire them because i don't want to cripple my native english

>>34000613
At least it doesn't require registration.

gimme something to fucking play in Japanese
i'm sick of neptunia, senran kagura, pokemon, atelier ryza, vanguard EX, phantasy star portable 2 infinity, smt series, persona...

someone once corrected me and told me that "often" has a silent "t", and i remembered it forever, without anki and without being reminded of it again.

>>34001506
thanks for the n+1 sentence

>>34001453
assuming

>>34001526
Dragon Quest. Also, Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin has a Japanese text option.

>>34001529
stop learning english from black people

>>34001526
resident evil 8 coming up

>>34001526
why are you here

>>34001529
no not really
depends on the speaker probably

>>34001529
it depends on what accent of english you are speaking
i say the t

>>34001526
trials of mana remake was pretty good

>>34001529
let me give you another pro tip to sound more native

r in library is silent

>>34001537
I have DQ11 downloaded but I don't think it has JP text. didn't even start it yet. probably gonna try dq8 or something on emulator

>>34001548
literally came especially to post that
otherwise i prefer the /int/ fags

>>34001577
which one?

nothing wrong with int given how bad new fags have been fucking up these threads

>>34001526
nier automata should have japanese text its pretty good

>>34001605
first

>>34001624
already played it was great
fuck route b tho

How do you lot keep up with listening comprehension? The Japanese talk way too fast to parse out what's a word and what's grammar.

>>34001577
where are you from

>>34001641
"libra'y" sounds more native

let me hit you with another pro english tip

the s in specific is silent.

dunno i just press play

the oxford learners dictionary shows both pronunciations - with a silent t and a normal t - as possible
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/often

>>34001649
do more anki

>>34001649
unironically read more

mugen

let me hit you with another pro english tip

the sk in ask is pronounced like x

>>34001649
both of those people are wrong
watch more stuff raw

>>34001672
that's just black people in the north

>>34001672
sk and x make the same sound most of the time

>>34001649
italki

>>34001686
you mean x and ks

>>34001667
>>34001666
Reading helps for reading. Last I checked, one cannot read raw audio. Tried out a JapanesePod video and I swear 人 came off sounding like ふと, to cite one of many many mishearings. Must be the accent.

>>34001674
See, you get it. Though I intended to avoid my raw backlog until I reach close to beginner level of auditory comprehension.

>>34001704
you might be tarded

>>34001704
>Must be the accent.
yea it must be

>>34001733
only explanation

>>34001672
seems like you have some sort of arrière-pensée by posting this

unironically wanna kick this guy in the balls

i tried out japanesepod and 方 came out as ほう. ridiculous

semen nioi

>>34001726
>>34001733
Just hear for yourself. The 人 sounds like ふと and it really threw me off. To say nothing of how fast they're talking compared to Japanese Visual Grammar.
https://youtu.be/8YV8KmfBbBM?t=2676

>>34001772

>>34001704
>one cannot read audio
well obviously you tard
how do you think those of us who are able to read and listen comfortably got here? by reading and listening
there's no simple magic trick that'll get u there
why do you think learning takes 4 years? because you have to overcome each and every fucking word, kanji and grammar rule one by one and also get them to click in fluent conversation or text

>>34001772
it's just devoicing like when people say した as like shta

>>34001772
if you can't understand that ur tarded no question about it

alright so basically the yotsuba decks are shit since they have no audio, no sentences, a bunch of retarded reverse cards, a bunch of retarded "grammar chunks" which are useless if you've read tae kim, and the second deck basically has you restart instead of ignoring the words that were already in the first deck. my solution was to just copy core6k cards to a new deck in the order they appear in yotsuba. covers damn near 100% of the words in vol 1 + 2 (you'll figure out the rest trust me bro) and has sub 600 cards so you can start reading in like a month easy.
https://mega.nz/file/2NUFHQrJ#m9_S9rSNaCbcdAhlX7gUZF1swOfSJ7thRqwUZA0Thao

>>34001795
see OP

>>34001772
it sounds like ひと bro ur just shit at japanese same reason you cant hear a chinese word properly either

>>34001772
think you're not used to the h/f sounds in japanese sometimes just being almost only a flow of air

>>34001795
trash deck

>>34001803
see my cock and balls anything that advertises how much kanji it teaches is immediately garbage

>>34001772
that definitely sounds like ひと
you have to practice more
keep in mind this guy could be right about you >>34001790

Tried out a JapanesePod video and I swear マンコ came off sounding like マンゴ

japanese pro tip here
instead of hikari say futori

性交後憂鬱（せいこうごゆううつ、post-coital tristesse）とは、性交あるいはオナニーの終了後に感じる憂鬱のことである。

女性より男性の方が多発している。性交（あるいは自慰行為）から5分間 - 2時間ほど、不安や自己嫌悪を感じる。

>he needs an anki deck to read yotsuba
seriously ngmi

>>34001837
Truthfully, I might just go back to fully focusing on reading comprehension until further notice. It'd be a huge problem if I don't have the right brain for it. Considering the antics of localization I rather secure my access to the raw product, just in case.

>>34001889
>antics of localization
lol retarded gamer

>>34001901
Well why else are people in this thread?

>>34001831
based

>>34001913
to get a whiff of og's perfect manko

>>34001913
暇つぶし

where the fuck is the wonder egg episode

>>34001913
99% of translated content is accurate enough, anyone who knows japanese knows the anti-localization stuff is just a red herring
only reason to learn japanese is cause you want to enjoy untranslated contents that retarded eops dont know about or you want to get into a hot weeb chick like ogs pants

cant read more than a chapter before burning out bros..................

>>34001888
why are you so smug in saying someone is not going to be successful in learning a language? everyone learns at different rates and gets to a different level of proficiency, there is no "making it" unless you are starting at 8 years old with a plastic brain

I study 4 different languages and have maybe intermediate to low intermediate in all of them, and I expect that as the years go by I will get a bit better at all of them and maybe a lot better at one or two, but I never expect to become native fluent in any of them, I didn't start as a child

there is too much to do in life than dedicate multiple hours a day every day too

>>34001986
>I
ngmi

>>34001972
do you even like what you are reading

yotsuba is actually an advanced manga, its easy to read but beginners won't actually understand it for reals

>>34001968
>anti-localization stuff is just a red herring
comedy is slightly worse when translated but other than that you are right

>>34002010
true it requires a lot of cultural knowledge about how japanese people think and act

>>34001968
>99% of translated content is accurate enough
the content on its own, yeah, but the feeling is lost
characters have a comletely different personality and air around them

>>34002030
the same is true for any language
people talk about japanese stuff as if its being corrupted when they just dont understand how translation works between 2 completely opposite languages

>>34002015
What Nintendo of America did to Fire Emblem cannot be ignored.

>>34002030
This even happens in h-games, if the comparisons of raw and translated text in Kozue's Strange Journey is any indication.

Also, retard anon's main complaint is the tutor talking to fast and not that the inherent volume being too fucking low?!

>>34002046
>the same is true for any language
yeah but its a valid reason to be against localizations

>>34002063
>What Nintendo of America did to Fire Emblem cannot be ignored.
?

>>34002063
>What Nintendo of America did to Fire Emblem cannot be ignored.
what happened?

Wheres the best place to read / download raw manga?

>>34002088
bookwalker

>>34002046
a lot of translators don't actually try to translate directly and instead try to just adapt the feel of the meaning in writing their own version

>>34002088
order it from Amazon jp or cdjapan

>>34002099
thats what translation is

>>34002099
yeah and theres nothing wrong with that
because translating directly from japanese to english means the english will be both extremely unnatural and also boring to read

>>34002113
exactly, and also why using English subtitles is a bad idea

>>34002088
usually we'd have an op link with the answer to your question but you'll have to follow the thread backlinks to find it since wanikani spammer made this one

also the feel of the meaning is much more important than the direct meaning
which is why if someone says ちょっと you dont translate it as "a little" when theyre really saying "i dont want to hang out with u lol"

>>34001986
im the guy youre replying to.
didnt even read that

>>34002138
or how いい時計してはりますな mean stfu

>>34002082
>>34002084
Bit long to explain but do look up the shenanigans surrounding Fire Emblem Fates. Long story short they removed content and outright rewrote many a character. More recently, Yen Press or Seven Seas nixed some paragraphs from some isekai light novel, which surprised quite a lot of people (myself included) when a certain episode of its anime contained a scene that was believed to be anime only, but was in fact in the LN. EOPs just didn't know it until the translators came clean.

makes me smile knowing all these retards who care about preserving the purity of their anime will most likely fail and have to go back to eating shit they hate

>>34002208
I don't understand. Do you not care about accuracy and overall not having plots and characters rewritten to suit someone else's interpretation? The fuck are you doing here then?

>>34002216
not him but why would he care if he doesnt read translations

hate these new fags

>>34002216
>Do you not care about accuracy and overall not having plots and characters rewritten to suit someone else's interpretation?
no who cares. theres nothing special about what the original creator made that means it cant be altered
your brain will have to interpret it a certain way that might not match the authors intent either

Konnichiwa. Okay, I'm sure a lot of people start off their posts like that, and I apologize

I'll cut to the chase. Back in May 2020 I was trying to learn Japanese. I was using Duolingo and watching a show on YouTube called PuniPuniJapan. After about a month, I fell out of it. I still know how to count to 10, and a handful of words, but the full on sentences I was just starting to learn have long since been forgotten

I would like to get back into it

I can go back to those two things, but I read somewhere once that preschool shows are a good way of learning a new language. Everything said in preschool shows is made to be simple to understand since, ya know, smooth brain babies and such

I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations on where to find shows like these. I have YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime. My girlfriend has HBO Max. I live in the US but don't use any VPN services, if that matters

Arigato gozaimasu

P.S. I tell everyone this when I tell them I want to learn Japanese; I can really only think of three anime shows I REALLY like. Not that liking anime is a bad thing, it's just not the soul reason why I'm interested in learning

half assedly took the duolingo placement test and got a question wrong, embarrasing
overlooked a その where it said that in the english sentence

https://youtu.be/sXTDLp4pDRA
gonna play typing of the dead in japanese
seems like a really fun way to practice

>>34002360
suffer like g did

https://archive.org/details/typing-of-the-dead-2-pc-game
if anyone wants it

>>34002360
lol the phrases are pretty funny
ペットのハムスターが大脱走

just mined 乳圧

>>34002429
チンポで揉む

>>34002407
what discord is this? is moogy the "boss" there? i really dont like that kind of culture

>>34002429
1

don't like discord culture

>>34002462
素晴らしい発想だな

would gladly suck the moogs chinpo

>>34002216
If you know that anime directors and scriptwriters often fuck around with the plot, add or subtract characters, scenes, etc. in manga and light novel adaptations, cut out many details for the sake of sticking to the allotted cour structure, and that there's thousands of light novels that get published every year, most of which end up getting forgotten after a very short while, then you should kinda be able to guess that light novels aren't really stuff most people respect that much.

>>34002437
why mine this

>>34002490
i read it as chichiatu

anybody who uses discord is evil

*walks in the thread butt ass 裸*

>>34002437
>乳圧
does this mean something like breast binding?

>>34002529
yep, this guy needs more eroge

>>34002529
No, it means them milkers be big

>>34002545
>>34002546
it never showed up in any of the eroge i read

>>34002546
hanachirasu is boring and way too verbose
also the characters are bullshit

>>34000312
I don't follow these generals too often. Why is there a dispute what should be put in the OP? And why is there no guide/rundown on grammar?

we need to secure the existence of our anime and a future for asian waifus

>>34002477

>>34002555
the fact I actually have to explain an obvious joke
boob pressure
whats there to explain?

>>34002561
t. sub6klet

>>34002575
lol

>>34002546
all the nitro+ shit is for 115-125 iq midwits actually

>>34002132
then just link it whiny bitch

>>34002291
does this guy understand how much effort it takes to learn a language?
his introductory sentence:
>Back in May 2020 I was trying to learn Japanese. I was using Duolingo and watching a show on YouTube called PuniPuniJapan. After about a month, I fell out of it. I still know how to count to 10, and a handful of words, but the full on sentences I was just starting to learn have long since been forgotten
makes it sound like his japanese is about as good as my spanish.
and i dont know any spanish at all, beyond small bits and pieces that i picked up throughout my life. things like "no habla espanol" and "donde esta la biblioteka "

>>34002429
>>34002575
read it as idomu

>>34002603
have you read more or less than 20 vinnies

>>34002603
totono is pretty good
nothing crazy but its enjoyable and has a few interesting ideas

>>34002603
true true

>>34002576
i thought it meant 胸を圧迫する, not 胸の圧力

jamal is just butthurt cuz he can't read them

>>34002623

nitro+ is as close as we'll get to jidaigeki vns
theres no competition here

>>34002641
why would it ever mean that

>>34002564
the other guide is just a link to somebody's personal website. the main draw was a pirate stash, but most of the links are dead now.

i wouldnt play muramasa even if it had nothing not on n1 in it

the only nitroplus game i've ever read was saya no uta, which was great.

>>34002629
of course

>>34002631
i didnt mean to say all nitro+ shit is bad especially bc i havent read a lot of them but just based on how i see white ppl talk about some of these games i came to that conclusion

>>34002655
that and i just like visual games thats about girls and relationships

muramasa is freakin based tho...

>>34002671
yeah it looks like chuuni trash that tries to pose as sophisticated

dude muramasa is a crazy long vn

this vn is better than muramasa
https://vndb.org/v5096

>>34002687
thats subahibi

>>34002564
there's a discord group that gets pissed when their guide doesn't make the cut, several personal blogs, and what you see here - troll guide which is honestly more effective than any of them.

>>34002687
same drag as mareni vns i see

imagine palying visual novels where u dont go on dates 2 places like the dobutuen and the yuuenchi lmao

nitro trash is the elfen lied of vinnies

muramasa has funnier jokes than any comedy anime or vn this is a fact

updated my anki for the first time in a while, now i have bigass play buttons for the audio on my cards. how do i hide these

>>34002698
wrong

suba hiba ? now thats a game for like 110iqs

>>34002725
exactly what im talking about
muramasa doesnt try to be pretentious like this by having lots of references to shit nobody cares about. its just well written in a nice jidaigeki style & good clean fun

>>34002724
tools -> preferences -> basic -> show audio button on cards

>>34002720
litbus
>>34002698
subahibi definitely has the same problems in parts but there is a good game somewhere underneath all that

h20 on the other hand now that was a 130+ iq game

>>34002740
uve never played muramasa so your comments are irrelevant

>>34002733
have you played 和香様の座する世界
wonder if its good

this is the vn for people with high iq and above average dick size

>>34002748
yu-no? more like ya-no

>>34002546
just push everything to the left cuz vns are all trash

Re: 34002759
u replied to the wrong guy lmao

*sigh* epic quote fail

>>34002750
i played it when it came out bc its romeo

unfortunately i dont think it was peak romeo and if u dont like waka herself the game really goes to shit as was my experience

my only good moment was when i saw this and lolled for like 5 mins thinkin of matto

>>34002735
all that shit's entry-level af my nigger
wittgenstein is entry-level philosophy
dickinson is entry-level poetry
alice in wonderland is shit literally everybody knows
cyrano de bergerac is also well known
it's not obscure edo period shit only jap history nerds and insular ultra-nationalists would know about

>>34002755
im still heartbroken at everything yu-no related that happened in the last few years

おg

>>34002781
>it's not obscure edo period shit only jap history nerds and insular ultra-nationalists would know about
muramasa is alternate history and they explain it all in like 1 scene you dont need to know any history
also the entire point that its entry level is what im talking about. its just some pseud regurgitating what he read on the wikipedia entry for "language game" or whatever and pretending that makes it deep or interesting. on the other hand muramasa is actually an insanely well crafted story with believable characters and development that doesnt rely on any kind of trickery like that to fool retards into liking it just cuz they recognise the point from their philo101 class

if u know japanese u know what im talking about

>>34002802
ill have to get an el camino or something so she can just lay in the back

>>34002815

the final boss of duolingo is finding out what exactly they want you to write

>>34002810
having loads of characters recreating scenes from old movies and novels does not make a work good.

>>34002834
lol mareni is fuckin based thats a funny scene

>>34002834
that's not even vn. that's just a novel with illustrations in the background

>>34002848
>having loads of characters recreating scenes from old movies and novels does not make a work good.
? yea thats exactly why subahibi is shit
muramasa doesnt do any of that it's all original

its obvious that ciaran is not okay in the head but we like him anyway

>>34002845
just like sentence cards. duolingo is based

>>34002849
>thats a funny scene
how is that funny?

>>34002860
do you know what vn stands for lmfao

>>34002860
as usual you don't know what you're talking about

people who are right in the head do not belong in djt

>>34002875
vinnie

>that's not a vn, that's just a novel with visuals

>>34002880
then it's gonna have to be og posting alone

>>34002880
bad news anon

another win for sca-di enjoyers

>>34002875
>>34002877
in a vn the writing is supposed to be as important as the pictures, not more important.

>>34002873
the image of the agent who doesnt get paid enough so has to show porno in his spare time so he can live the lifestyle he thinks hes entitled to is funny & the way its described is funny

>>34002902
t. anonymous poster on english basket weaving board

>>34002901

comedy is just letting other people think for you
except if its with people you really love

>>34002912
that's not funny.

>>34002575
mc sounds baaaased

>>34002913
this is a 9gag chat group

>>34002834
tried reading this but fell asleep halfway through

>>34002930
its funny the way he described it
most people here probably dont find anything funny in english cause their brain has been poisoned by 4chan memes

in 10 years we'll all be like ciaran

>>34002970
no thanks i don't want to get fucked in the ass

was that isekai maou thing any good?
its getting a second season so im wondering if i should watching the first one

>>34002985
if u dont get fucked in the ass u cant learn japanese final

>>34003005
it was fun

i wonder what would make a 30-something year old man hang around one of the shittiest generals on 4chan even though he has nothing in common with everybody else there except that he's been learning the same language as them.

>>34003026
wife leaving him and taking the kid(s) despite him "doing everything right"

i mean let's face it
djt is probably the most advanced japanese learning community on the internet

>>34003035
i mean the other 30 year old

>>34003026
im only 30 not 30 something
anyway this is the only place i visit in the internet besides news websites just cuz i need some minimal human interaction in my life to stave off howard hughes level insanity

>>34003042
that's not saying much

and most of the thread is just dekinais larping as nihongopros anyway

>>34003042
that doesn't explain why this general is so lame. even /p/ generals are better

anyone know of some nukige with smell fetish appeal?

罹かる or 罹る
which one is right

>>34002934
he is based but his blabbering gets tiring to read after a while
two hours of this and i need some trash moege to clear my throat

>>34003014
ok ill check it out

also i see pic related posted here sometimes
stellar voicecast but is it any good?

>>34003072
please hang yourself

>>34003026
what is significant about the 30's that you are commenting on? Everyone is an individual and whether he is 25 or 35 or 45 or 55 doesn't really seem to have anything to do with anything here

>>34003090
seek help ciaran

>>34003089
only thing made in japan worth watching this year

>>34003112
dunno why you think that's me im not a kinkshamer bro u do u

>>34003089
butcher trash for midwits

i like the doll show but its not anime

crazy how the best anime is a puppet show

>>34003014
ふむふむ
i see

honest opinion guys. upper beginner here. should i honestly drop core10k and whatever and focus only on mining stuff from anime, drama, light/visual novels and whatnot?

>>34003141
neither is any of that chinese shit that every anime site is full of these days

if you try using anichart to find out when the next ep of the show you're following is airing you're hard pressed to find it among all the chinkshit which fills the page

>>34003005
>>34003173
i actually thought you meant maou gakuin
but yeah i liked isekai maou too

>>34003178
probably

>>34003178
focus on reading 100,000,000 words of japanese

>>34003178
all of the above other than anime

>>34003178
yeah. drop core10k, start reading, and buy wanikani

>>34003090

>>34003208
welp

>>34003194
oh okay
too many maou isekais out there

too big

>>34003208
>2021
>still no futa gf

>>34003173
ないす

I'm such a procrastinating retard Jesus Christ, how do you guys do it

every time I procrastinate I feel like I'm a moment away from giving up for good

>>34003201
>>34003204
troll

>>34003206
super troll

i was really expecting an honest opinion

>>34003238
>i was really expecting an honest opinion
and you got it

>208
what vinny is that so i can stay away from it haha

>nooo stop telling me to read my target language you trolls!!!!!

another loss for feelers

>>34003178
stop doing idiot cards and do things u enjoy instead w.o thinking about the japanese language for the next year

>>34003178
now that you finished it it should start taking less time every day just keep it

>>34003237
nevermind I think you guys are probably procrastinating too

>>34003266
didnt finish it. far from it. i would just drop this whole thing and simply focus on watching and reading stuff

>>34003267
that's the only reason this thread exists

the duolingo guy is going to make it before most of you since he probably consumes more japanese now lool

>>34003276
good point

goodbye

>>34003275
just erase the cards you havent done yet

this thread exists as a place to hang out and chill after a long day of reading vinnies
simple as

day 2 of the diet i'm really hungry but i've already lost a couple lbs

値段が高いレストランはあまり好きじゃない

Is it like this:

(値段が高い)レストラン

Or like this
値段が(高いレストラン)

>>34003291
how much did you read

>>34003285
i just sit in front of the tv until an anime season passes, dunno whats hard about that

>>34003318
bro...

>>34003178
suspend every new card. keep your reviews and try mining for a month or so?

>>34003318
only one of those even makes any sense
use your brain

>>34003332
ye u arent learning japanese thats the problem

>>34003345
how do you think learning works

>>34003320
dunno i dont texthook

>>34003353
reading textbooks

*reads*
*feels*
*acquires*

>>34003372
sometimes i dont know what to feel

anime isnt for learning its for fun u dont learn anything from something so simple

why do most school yuri vinnies have uniforms almost the same shade of red as the inner portion of yuru yuri uniforms? is that the official yuri color or something

>>34002429
really no idea which one is appropriate

any other vns like air that mute the music when you play back a voice line? makes making good cards a lot easier

>>34003388
i learned this nice 詩
https://streamable.com/cusshk

>>34002725
kid shit

wow the framerate in this is smooth like butter

>>34003499
true

>>34003499
based hunterchad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPVwsiTdDHA

lets gooooo

>>34003479
sometimes I procrastinate because my brain just feels like sitting in a lull of semi-consciousness, I can do something mindless like robotically play a video game I am already good at but not care at all about, but actually concentrating on something feels too much like work and I'd rather be in a state of daydreaming rather than do actual work

kind of like reading 4chan, I can mindlessly scroll for hours and not even have to concentrate or care, and sometimes clicking something else here and there, but all of it doesn't require thinking really

Is it even possible to learn Japanese if I'm a 30 year old NEET? Starting from scratch.

>>34003499
that's a great list

the world would be a better place if a lot of that was standard high school reading

>>34003543
it's pretty much impossible after 26. sorry man

>>34003543
if you've been watchin anime for a long time then yes if not then gl

>>34003543
you can only learn japanese if youre a neet

>>34003560
I've watched 145 shows is that enough

>>34003543
what does being 30 years old have to do with it, other than the fact that you are over 13 years old and now out of the optimum time for language learning

you can learn, of course, just don't expect to be fluent in less than a decade, if ever.

just try to be conversational in a simple limited way, that is a more realistic goal

youll never learn japanese from a white guy.

age making things harder is a myth, the only thing that can stop you is time and not working hard

george isn't white he's mixed. his stepdad's black

>>34003578
not really, I meant the "already good at" part as the fact that no brain activity is required to actually play a game I already know by muscle memory.

The key point was that having to think too much feels like work. Sitting around half asleep is much more preferable for me.

neets have a lot of time, but they usually don't have the drive needed to learn japanese

>>34003591

>>34003591
kids definitely have a much easier to time acquiring language this isnt a myth. its not impossible to acquire it after but you probably wont find it as easy or sound as good

>>34003575
I just want to be able to read some stuff at a decent pace and follow Japanese conversations/fiction at a decent level

>>34003591
fluid intelligence drops after a certain age like 40 or something

>>34003601
you might just be tarded because
>The key point was that having to think too much feels like work. Sitting around half asleep is much more preferable for me.
thats literally fear of difficulty lol

>>34003622
drops, not evaporate

>>34003543
gg man its impossible after 25

>>34003603
My biggest concern is actually having to stop being a NEET and the resulting whiplash from having to work making it hard to do anything like studying after.

>>34003622
nah that's just cuz i hit jamal's head against the ground his age had nothing to do with it

honestly. getting older, i HAVE noticed that its harder for me to remember things, but at the same time, i have much more discipline than i did as a child/teenager. so it evens out. actually, i think i can learn even faster now than back then because of that.
(>>34003591)
if i picked an easy language like spanish, i could get conversational in 3 months tops. something i couldnt have done as a teenager because i was lazy

>>34003499
can guarantee you togashi hasn't read a single one of those

>>34003637
just read linnies while you pretend to work ez

>>34003543
not with that attitude

千里
uhh japanesepod?
the fuck is that audio

just mined 制海権

(>>34003648)
togashi cant draw that well, any hxh fan knows that, so he looks at model magazines to trace the models.
but he also reads classic literature to get inspirations for his plots

its really weird to go from learning some kanji to learning grammar and all the example sentences are in full hiragana actually makes it harder to read

just mined 制空権

(>>34003714)
what grammar book are you reading? tae kim doesnt do this

>>34000312
Current thread: #2772

Previous threads:
>>33989188 #2771
>>33982357 #2770

>>34003673
whats that english word with a similar meaning but start with a thessa something

>>34003729
genki atm ill check out tae kim. i guess i sort of understand why kanji is even a thing now because it's hard to make sense out of the mess of hiragana characters sometimes now

>>34003644
>>34003701
>>34003729
the fuck are you doing putting quoutes in brackets

>>34003733
Thalassocracy

>>34003638
excuse u?

>>34003756
yes that one
thanks

antiyomichaners were right, i switched to manual lookups and im remembering everything

anki seriously cripples your learning process and your self-confidence.
you are so scared of forgetting a word, that you obsess over putting every new word you encounter into what is essentially a database on your computer.

>>34003783
ok so how else do you learn

if the nioi guy is still there, i have something i found on his last question
>あるものを見聞きした時に、不快な気分になるわけではなくむしろ少し気分が良くなるさま。類似した言葉に「満更でもない」などが挙げられる
this is the description for 悪い気はしない

>>34003491
ok i guess i'm just getting unlucky then