/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Another day without Okuu.

What the fuck is floor 22 I can't break anyone cause every turn they restore 2 barriers. How the fuck do I beat this? Do I have to just focus on breaking 1 and try to kill her, retreat and then do it again?

Who should I LB first? I got 4 paper dolls - Tewi LB1, Remilia - LB2, Ran LB2. I have no medicine or mokou or yukari so I just need damage for the tower and higher level stages.

MLB I have suika, youmu, daiyousei, star, and luna

>>35820565
They do they almost every turn after that floor. You need to just breaking 3+ a turn yo.

>>35820650
Yikes. A paper doll isn't worth this kind of hassle. I'll do what I can but I doubt I can clear the 30th floor.

>>35820594
>>35820594
>Mlb fairies
Wtf, where's your reimu to have useful sun breaks and tankiness for stalling, anyway go for tewi if you want to do tower because you don't have sun breaks neither anomalies, if not go for ran because her last word hits hard

>>35820594
>daiyousei, star, and luna
MLB Sunny or Cirno next

Say, dose anybody have the Voice Lines of Shikieiki in English ?

I wanna know if they did her right and didn't use the fanon version of her

>>35820914
Speaking of MLBs.

Should I start working on Medicine, Alice or Kasen first ?

>>35821209
Medicine, Kasen, and not Alice in that order.

Bros is it normal to do about 1/2-3/4 damage to the 30F bosses per full heal after the first completion? I can't see how you can properly build P or stall with that stupid "no swap" gimmick.

>>35821261
Thanks

>>35820565
floor 21~29 forces you to target the barrier restoring enemy first
after that deal with the 2hu and then it should all be easily done

>>35821529
I just rush the main boss first then auto the adds. Done well so far up to 28.

I did not even notice this before but the jap version changed the amount of rewards that you can buy from the store. The 2nd half of it has not even dropped yet and it is already this much.

>>35822628
That's about two packs of 10k coins for 100k and one million points. Kind of pricy for not much but it's better than nothing for shop clearers and rare points farmers I guess, and since the 100k for 100k is still here this is a net gain.

Tower has shown me that I do not know how to play this game and probably never will.

>>35821282
I'm 1 off from that floor, but I'll just do basic stalling for that one, don't see how it should interfere and with that much hp the poison stacks will outdamage LWs if no fullbreak lol.

>>35821798
nah
the thing is that you absolutely want to full break the 2hu and the barrier spammer makes that task hard
so taking it out will make the problem less of an issue

>>35821529
>>35821798
Both of these strategies work. Focus on reviewing what element breaks you have available and target those bosses/adds first. Reducing their numbers helps either way and you'll clear the floors with time and persistence.

Who beats the very unfun floor 15?

Floor 21 and above fills me with despair...

>>35824582
I used Daiyousei's 6 metal break on herself and then burned her first. Then Lily wasn't too hard by her lonesome. YMMV - look what breaks your friends have.

>>35819269
Yes, I was planning on including a list of items required to fully upgrade each Friend on their page, but I can make a massive infodump table with each upgrade material included so that you can sort for which character is the most resource intensive by material. To be honest it is pretty low priority at the moment. Tables are a fuck huge pain to format and then propagate. Right now I am hung over and using that to fuel building pages to fill shit out.
Right now I am simply trying to get the Mission pages done starting with Ch.2 Ep. 7 Return of the Shrine Maiden Pt. 2 and working backwords. I have made a basic template for missions that can be found in Template:Missions but I am updating it at this moment to include visual elements.

>>35820914
I have a reimu who is level 80. I guess she could also be an option for my dolls. I only roll fairy dupes though and got tewi only through 300gc rolls
>>35820997
I want to ryona fairies

Is there any content in JP that is harder than tower?

>>35826580
There was talk about some new sort of PVE Arena mode but they have been quiet about that for a while. Right now tower is still the endgame content. They have been trying to add stuff to stop certain cheese strategies, like giving enemies multiple health bars to prevent mindless LW spam, but the effect is debatable.

>>35823605
The most important thing to learn is how buffs stack. Once you figure that out it's so much easier to meet the damage requirement to kill enemies, even without strong LWs.

>>35824841
I hope you die choking on your own vomit

>>35826580
doing tower without using full heal is what i've been doing.

is there any word on when Yoshika is getting released? thinking about quitting right after getting her cuz its getting boring

>>35831410
I quite like how comfy it is. If anything, I hate the tower for demanding so much of my time. I just want to open the app 2 ~3 times per day, listen to Tewi claim she's not digging a pit, do the daily stages and maybe the EXTRA ones, then go back to whatever else I was doing.

Is there a list of spell/cards last words that have the break barrier affected by x status property? It's a pain in the ass looking up this info in the game itself.

Made it to 27F of the tower, not sure how you are supposed to clear anything without Medicine since of been using her poison skills and last word to full break and wipe out all the 2+ barrier per turn enemies.

>>35831454
>I hate the tower for demanding so much of my time. I just want to open the app 2 ~3 times per day
This.
I'll be glad when the tower is gone. There are way more important things I could be doing with my time.

>>35831454
i'm still playing azur and the pull rate in lost word is pretty bad. all 12 of my current friends need dupes/paper dolls and its just not engaging me. ill get yoshika because i want her but after that idk.

>>35821183
Pink heart voice line: "What, you're going to work harder because you have my blessing? No, that's why i'm here to help you... I see, I can't help it. But even if you take a break once in a while, it doesn't mean i have to lecture you immediately. You need to take a break."

Orange heart voice line: "I have been researching and pondering your situation. I am sure that there is something that I can reveal to you because I am the direct agency of reincarnation and rebirth."

Green heart voice line: "What, you want me to talk more because your story is going to be...? I'm sure you'll have a great time. Thanks you. But..."

Blue heart voice line: "Don't worry. As long as I'm here, I won't put you in danger."

Purple heart voice line: no way fag, not going to make her sad.

So far a bit fanon, but on the protective side instead of the judgemental ojousama. I'll get the rest of the voicelines soon too.

>>35831850
Mail voice line: "I see that you have received a letter. Let's read it."

Errand voice line: "Someone has returned from your errand. Let's go pick them up."

Task complete voice line: "Have you finished your assignment? You did a great job."

Idle voice line 1: "If you forget me, I'll talk to you again and again. If you stray from the path, I will bring you back again and again. I will not let your soul perish."

Idle voice line 2: "What, you want me to talk more about me... because I'm interesting? You are too straightforward. But thanks you for... your time."

Idle voice line 3: "This is why you need it now..."

Idle voice line 4: "[...] This is the story of how we came to be here. This teaching is [...]" (Most likely a fragment of her lecturing)

Idle voice line (Summer only): "The heat is another hardship that can be inflicted on people. But it's only with sunlight that trees can bear fruit... And yet, it's hot...!"

Idle voice line 5: "Have you seen Komachi? I hope she's not involved in any strange situation. If you see her, you have to be very careful."

Just in case anyone was wondering if it is actually possible to get gold mats from the 6 hour errand, it is, it’s just rare.

>>35834301
you know what's rare? actually doing the 6 hour errand

>>35834311
I always do it when I go to bed.

>>35834317
you're lucky to have a healthy sleeping schedule. I sleep 3 times a day for 2 hours each

>>35834301
Holy shit, I didn't think it was possible. Why would they make the drop rate so low? It's not like farming six gold tiles over six hours is better than what you can accomplishing grinding an event.

>>35834340
More like you're unlucky, that's unnatural.
Might as well make it 6 times a day for 1 hour each so you can efficiently do 1 hour errands.

>>35831473
No list as far as I'm aware, but Cirno has one in the last bullet of her 2nd spellcard, and Mokou has one in her focused(?) shot. Reisen has all types of breaking in her spellcards and Ringo has blind-breaking, for whatever reason.
>not sure how you are supposed to clear anything without Medicine
Just break five barriers in one turn, or at least three per turn to out-speed the barrier restore. You won't be able to kill every enemy that way, but you can take out two and stall the last one out.

>>35834472
The Burnt Barrier break is on the spread shot of Mokou at P3.
The focused shot can apply burns.

I'm sure you guys know this, but story card rituals are a godsend. They count as prayers, so you can use them when there aren't any good banners going on and decently save on cubes.

>>35831850
>>35832064
Well they did a better job than I expected. I was kinda afraid they would fuck it up, anyways thanks for the translation

>>35832064
Wait, they really have different voice lines for different seasons? Like Youmu talks about the otherworld being busy during Obon and stuff?

Dang, this shits great

Things would be different around here if The Law was my friend...

>>35835240
The Law is virtuous!
Everyone has to be equal before The Law!
Therefore The Law has no friends!
What a friendless loser The Law is!

Does the level and duration of an errand influences the amount of stuff you get or should I always just click on the shortest ones to do as much of them as I can?

>>35835377
Just do the shortest ones. There is even a rare 30 minute errand for cubes which sometimes shows up.

Daily Roll Rabbit GET


Nice. not the EARTH coverage i wanted or need, and it seems like her only worth is buffing the team, having no-element bullets all around...

But hey, i´ll take it. Another friend is another friend.

Stallbros, we did it.
I want to name a specific MVP, but everyone was kinda integral for pulling this off.

I have like 20k stamina. Do I blow it on Red Marisa or save it for the upcoming event?

>>35836320
Good job, I hate you. Post your 2hus.

>>35836320
so, now that defeating the top stage is the only thing going on, what now?

Im sitting here, dont know what to do except farming Redrisa´s story cards...

Ahhh...i need new event stages...

>>35836500
You chill and wait for event. I have already dumped all of my stamina in farming Marisa stage (5 cards for ~20k on x2 week) and I'm waiting for event to be able to farm gold resources for upgrades.
Yes, you can beat Pachi endlessly, but I dont think its worth your time.

Also my game broke the sorting somehow.

>>35836664
not the original guy with the >stallguys post.
ive downed Pachi two days ago. annoying fuck.

The sorting changes when you have units in your party(s). Parties get sorted to the front, then school, errand and training(iirc)
so for screenshots i wait until all of them are back, and occasionally clear out the different teams so the level 100 are nicely stacked on the top.

>>35836338
I used Yukari Sanae Medicine for most of it, sometimes switched medi out for someone else who could break on normal shots, but in the later stages the poison outdamages pretty much everything you have outside of fullbreak damage.

Is it worth it to MLB Remilia? I'm not exactly swimming in paper dolls, but if she's good, I've got enough to bring her there from LB1.

>>35837756
depends, what other units do you have who arent mlb?

3 Cube errand...not a single one brought home... WTF.

>>35837883
More notable ones would be Lily, Marisa, Patchy, and Cirno. The rest, like Meiling or the cunny squad, aren't really worth mentioning from what I see.

>>35837923
Lily and Patchi are worth MLBing. Lily for Full-auto farming Red Marisa, Patchi is great for coverage with her multiple elements and her super-fast [P] gaining.

...Cunny Squad? The fairys?

idk if i'm becoming too ambitious but is it better to continue after clearing floor 25 or should i just stop since i already got the rainbow doll that i need

>>35838073
keep going. They´ll add 10 flors each time the tower will come back, and your progress is saved.

You´ll fall behind more and more, struggling to keep up with getting the more juicy rewards on the way to floor 100.

Just try your best, sacrificing a single 5-cube heal isnt bad or hurtfull. you can get at least a whole stage done with 1-2 full heals (Free and 5 cube)

You can do it! I believe in you Anon!

>>35838073
The only real downside to continuing is that tower is time consumming. Also, if you feel your team is not fit for the tower right now, you can train more 2hus for next time.
But whatever you do now is cleared for the next time tower opens.

>>35837756
Remi is pretty alright, she is accurate and hard hitting. The issue that comes with it is that she is Yin focused. If you have Yin focused friends like Marisa Rojo and Suika that is where Remilia really shines. Remi has access to Yin def down debuff which basically acts as a multiplicative boost to Yin hitters. You can only stack so much Yin Atk up on a friend before they start experiencing diminissing returns due to the fact that each additional level is applied additively.

That said unless you have the makings of a strong Yin team right now there are better investments you could be putting your dolls towards.

also I swear on me mum I am going to try and finish the debuff table today. I got distracted with real life shit, but this really needs to be done so people like you could see what makes Remi so special right now.

>>35838130
>>35838133
my team is powerful enough to get me to floor 25 and since i got the rainbow doll from there i also MLB red marisa
yea
i think i can do this
it's just 2 floors per day

>>35836664
The game didn't break sorting. It does that when you have characters in parties. It will sort for what you sorted for and sort all party members in that order, and then after party members it will sort everyone else. I guess it is supposed to help when you want to upgrade someone or adjust their cards by ensuring that they are always right there.

>>35838205
>also I swear on me mum I am going to try and finish the debuff table today. I got distracted with real life shit, but this really needs to be done so people like you could see what makes Remi so special right now.
Will you really anon? You have to give it your best so you don't let your fellow anons down! Then you can take it easy

Floor 41-50 are the anti-stall floors of the tower so you better plan for that when tower comes around again.

I somehow luckshitted Red Marisa with a single roll on the last day of the banner. I used the free doll and 25th floor doll on her. How long is it going to be until we get more tower floors? Also when will they sell the divine doll pack again? I'm willing to spend money on 1 doll and use free dolls for the rest.

>>35838828
Those packs usually come around whenever tower is back or when the next Super FES is released. Usually it takes a few weeks for tower to be back. They'll do 1 or 2 regular events and then have tower again.

>>35838220
>it's just two floors per day
I've got the same attitude at this point. Now that I'm actually at floor 25 and can nuke them to hell with a full team for some reason I want to stall it and squeeze in as many floors in a day as I can.
>i also MLB red marisa
Die.
>>35838807
A master was here. Everyone better prepare their anuses for this.

I know the EN banner schedule is completely out of wack compared to the JP one but does anybody have any clue when we could expect Yuuka? Is she tied into any events or story chapters?

>>35838964
Event, the cheerleader one

feeling bored might blow all of these on the seiringo banner for shits and giggles lol

>>35839294
Watch Toyohime be announced next as soon as you do

>>35838724
Yeah, I have the table built and am populating it between making food for next week and dealing with a new kitten that is crying his eyes out because it is the first time he has been away from his mother and brothers and he is in a new place he has never been before. It is weird as fuck, he isn't scared of me at all. When I reach under the desk and start petting him he rubs up against my hand, starts purring like a machine, and flops over to have his belly rubbed. But the moment I stop he starts crying non-stop.

Lunatic Extra Stages are cancer.

>>35838936
>A master was here. Everyone better prepare their anuses for this
Yeah, fuck me master

>>35839599
No shit man. All my brain cells burned on the tower and I still have to do lunatic extra.
any guide for this?

>>35839855
The problem here is you didn't stall.
You need to save your nukes for those sections you can't pass. Reisen would be the best for this since she extends her life and would count as an extra stall membe- wait, get out of this thread.
Back to gameplay you.

>>35839294
That is a lot less cubes than you think. You only need to be unlucky twice and you will instantly be down 1500 cubes again.

>>35839497
Cat pics?

>>35839294
If your favs include any of mine, please do me a favor and pull so they are released next week. I'm around two sparks too and I have a hankering for story cards dupes to cash for tokens but I don't care for the bunnies.

>>35839497
Can someone confirm something for me. Null is different than Immune, right? Cause some of these barrier statuses effect descriptions are written in the skill as immune and others are written as null. If they are indeed different things does that mean that immune means that the barrier status just doesn't appear, and null means the barrier status is there, but the effect does not interfer with the character?
Because if my suspscion is true someone like Sakuya whose skill Capable of Manipulating Time has "Nullifies the effects of barrier status: paralyze" in the description could have paralyze placed on her, but be able to act as if it isn't. She would still be able to have that barrier broke through a barrier status: paralyze break.
I mean it could just be lazy as fuck translators that didn't go back to fix their placeholder word to unify their verbage, but it also might be a subtle nuance that has gameplay implications.

Also almost done with the rough outline of the status table. I will need to go through and detail it, but you should be able to get the idea of who has what from a quick view and then go examine the characters yourself. The detail shit like the different between Null and Immune will have to come after I work on the mission tables so I know where I can find enemies that use specific status attacks so I can test this.

Floor 23
Sanae goes down like a bitch.
Two tengu wreck my shit.
Can't break them because they have no weakness, and they constantly heal their status effects.
Fuck.

>>35839855
The most effective way I have found to do Looney EX is to build a build a line of Mostly Yang and a line of Mostly Yin. You can probe the mission first with a 5 cost friend to get an idea if the first wave will be Yang or Yin. If they buff their Yang and debuff your Yang then make your vangard a Yin heavy team with a Yang heavy reargard. If the first wave is Yin bring a Yang vangard and a Yin reargard. This allows you flexibility to easily switch should the succeeding wave focus differently. The reason I say to bring a Yin to counter Yang despite the fact Mostly Yin friends tend to have weak Yang def is that 1) The enemy will debuff your Yang Atk and Def, and B) It is easier to just flash through the wave with one round of Yin spell cards that are properly buffed. The same goes for bringing a Mostly Yang team to counter Yin.

I am a day behind because I tried to solo my way through hard a couple of times to save Spirit and ended up not getting 3 stars, but this is what trivilized Looney up to Ex. 1 Pt. 3 Battle 7.

Tojiko's kit kinda looks like a poorfag version of Hecatia which is kinda funny because Hecatia is already a cheaper version of little Yuyuko. Miko is also already a single target nuke.

>>35840871
>they have no weakness
Only one of the tengu has no weakness. The barrier restorer is vulnerable to wood, so Lily, Medicine or Yuyuko should be able to take her out.

>>35820249
Another day without Mimi-chan

Okay other than needing to experiment with the Null characters I think the Status table is good. If you see any errors Yell at me and I will fix them.
https://lostword.miraheze.org/wiki/Friend_Properties#Table_3%3A_Barrier_Status_table

Do I have a chance of beating floor 10 of SDT?

>>35840871
If you can't break it over 2-3 turns than probably just toss everything at the table and try to kill it with brute force

>>35841989
>Marisa Rojo
>Remi
>Medi
>Myon
>Ran
The levels are shit, but floor 10 has no barrier restore or recovery. Depending on how limit broken your characters are and what abilities you have unlocked it should be more than possible despite the levels.

I just spent 1 fucking hour and a half of doing stallmeme against yukari and the fucking tengu giving 2 barriers back each turn. I want to fucking die, I can't wait for the tower to be gone, I can't take it anymore, my brain is fried

>>35842537
First of all, fuck the tower.
Don't try to stall the barrier restoring side bitches. Even if you don't have the weakness for them just use every spellcard and last word on them you can.
They're not worth the time or effort. Kill it, then stall.
You can clear at least 2 floors a day this way.

>>35841253
Huh. They both look the same so I assumed both were neutral.
Still sucks having to beat it with no weaknesses.

>>35842537
>>35842586
There are 11 friends that can place barrier statuses in global right now. There are five that can break. Only one of those friends is limited(Super Fes Marisa). Even if you do not have the elements there is a good chance you can Full Break with what you have provided that the enemy you are facing does not have resistence to a particular status. If you can lay 6 barrier statuses on, and can bring 1 friend who can elementally break a single barrier, you can wipe out most floors in less than five minutes with meticulous planning. For the floors with No Element enemies you can either overpower them, or you can use creative turn orders to apply a status and break it the same attack phase.

I honestly do understand why some people don't like the tower. The rest of the game is just using meta to auto-pilot your way through everything. Taking the time out to study a floor of the tower and come up with the best counter strategy you can, and then testing it again and again with slight variations, until you arrive at the perfect solution using the characters and cards you have is the meat and potatoes of the game. It is really really fun. The story keeps me coming back, but the tower was the first time that I have genuinely began to enjoy the gameplay itself and wanted to go deeper. It is fun fun fun and I am sad that I only had 30 floors of it this time.

>>35842943
>The rest of the game is just using meta to auto-pilot your way through everything. Taking the time out to study a floor of the tower and come up with the best counter strategy you can, and then testing it again and again with slight variations, until you arrive at the perfect solution using the characters and cards you have is the meat and potatoes of the game. It is really really fun. The story keeps me coming back, but the tower was the first time that I have genuinely began to enjoy the gameplay itself and wanted to go deeper. It is fun fun fun and I am sad that I only had 30 floors of it this time
Holy shit finally someone who shares my sentiment. I did all of this and also factored in the availability of my LWs and SCs in my daily game plan to climb the most floors per day using only the free heal. I had to think, had to experiment, and most important of all had to strategize. All of this paid off with me clearing the tower with the 4th free heals.
Since then I've been feeling the itch really badly. I missed mulling over my 2hus and my story cards before the daily reset and planning on a counter for the floors ahead. I really just want more tower floors to have fun with.

>>35843137
Arena will come to JP in the future too. It's rumored to be more reocurrent (and maybe permanent) than Tower, so hopefully Global devs work on getting Arena as soon as JP releases it after some time.

>>35843150
>Arena will come to JP
Oh god no, having to compete with whales for rewards is always awful.

>>35843137
The pages and pages I had filled in my notebook with random shit related to the tower directly lead me to working on the data tables. Having to dig through the japanese websights to find out things that weren't readily apparent either in game or on the shill site caused me to constantly take notes, which ended up a complete mess because I would write down what I needed to know right then. It got to the point were my notes were actually hampering me because I would have something written down on a page, but I had actually found a better way to do it, but I couldn't remember and didn't immediately see the note I made to correct it.

If they made more challenging content like this that required a either encyclopedic knowledge or a deep roster to beat they could keep more people interested in the game, draw in new players interested in the challenge, and cause lazy players to spend money as a way to bypass the hassle. It is a no brainer considering all the assets are already there and all they need to do is have someone come up with a story and then some code monkies to bash it together.

I heard rumblings about some arena or pvp thing. I don't know how well that would work with how meta everything is. The game has a lot of potential with the depth that it potentially has, but it is so unbalanced in their effort to hook whales that something like PVP would be insane to implement.

>>35843150
Nice but I sincerely hope it's not PvP bullshit.

>>35843224
>>35843246
it supposes to be a daily PVE content but we should know about it more in the next update or the next live stream which is next week.
>>35843237
>>35843137
You won't get many floors in the future. Nowadays jp gets 10 more floors per month and, with bigger roster, you can finish it in like 4 hours. I have to add my own challenge to not use full heal to keep it challenging.

>>35842943
This guy gets it. The tower was the first time I needed to bother learning how the game's mechanics work. That made it much more fun than pointing Youmu/Ran at a farmable level and idly hitting the rematch button.

>>35843237
>and cause lazy players to spend money as a way to bypass the hassle
I think you misunderstand the psychology of casuals. Given a sufficient challenge, they will simply quit, either by ignoring tower or quitting the game altogether. Also, people may play a 2hu game because of the challenge, but no one is playing a 2hu gacha because of the challenge.
Rather, the purpose of the tower is to give people who have fully built their 2hus a place to use them. I didn't bother unlocking Marisa's 3rd passive until the tower came around because a 25% chance for 0.5P didn't sound useful if I was 1-turning everything with Master Spark. The tower is a reason to try to get gold scrolls, or get enough tokens to awaken your friends, because otherwise it feels pointless. It's also a reason to use your full roster and be glad when you get a friend beyond the 18 errand cap. Otherwise you'd just be playing with the same 3 or 6 units.

>>35843237
>The pages and pages I had filled in my notebook with random shit related to the tower directly lead me to working on the data tables. Having to dig through the japanese websights to find out things that weren't readily apparent either in game or on the shill site caused me to constantly take notes, which ended up a complete mess because I would write down what I needed to know right then. It got to the point were my notes were actually hampering me because I would have something written down on a page, but I had actually found a better way to do it, but I couldn't remember and didn't immediately see the note I made to correct it.
Yeah I had to take some notes as well to prepare some contingencies for break bullets missing. One of stallmeme's perks are its nature as an autopilot activity that A/ conserves my LW and SC resources and B/ let me multi-task to prepare for the floor after.
And thank you very much for your hard work, anon. A data table and a list of status break-capable 2hus will be very useful. I only discovered Reisen's status break capability after I've already cleared the tower.
>>35843375
Well put. Tower really is the proving ground for a developed roster. People who were diligent about leveling and skilling up their 2hus also fared much better than others.

>>35842943
Well, I'm on floor 26 using free heals and I didn't need to do any of that.
25 was the goal, there's nothing worthwhile after that but I'll go as far as I can since we know it will come back.
The only reason I dislike the tower is its time consuming while also being time limited.
If the main story were this difficult I'd be impressed, but it isn't, and we're left hoping for that pve arena.

>>35843483
It's done
https://lostword.miraheze.org/wiki/Friend_Properties#Table_3:_Barrier_Status_table
If you see any errors tell me. I am currently recoding data for every mission so that people can have a reference page for weeks off event to know where they can farm for a particular drop to have the best drop tables. It will also help you figure out what the best possible teams to make for floors on a particular difficulty so that you can run as low cost of a team as possible to maximize your drop to spirit ratio. I am thinking this is what the mission tables will look like, and I will have them divided up into different chapters.
https://lostword.miraheze.org/wiki/Ep._7:_Return_of_the_Shrine_Maiden

I rolled a character in my daily roll. And it's a character I've already completely limit broke.

>>35843658
Your fault for using paper dolls on non-festival characters

>>35843668
I didn't though.

>>35843673
Your fault for being unlucky

>>35843658
Blue tokens are hard to come by.

>>35843724
You get a measly ten for a character. It feels terrible.

decided to rush through 4 floors with the full heal because bored
only gotta have to deal with patche and her servant next and i'm done

>>35843637
Looks great. Nice work, anon. I will take a look later and see if I notice any errors.

>>35843658
I feel like I'm rigged to get a Daiyousei every other time I get a friend roll. At least she's adorable.

Ugh. I don't even want to do the tower anymore, I just want to suicide my roster against the current floor and wait for the next free heal, but the mobs in floor 21 aren't even capable of breaking through my girls.

>>35845136
If your characters can still win on full auto then that is perfect for you.

Have :
Remi
Flan
Ran
Medicine
Alice
Reisen
Cirno
Sunny
Lily
Luna
Chen

Is Medicine my MLB target here? Will she retain use post tower?

>>35845915
She is the most vital character for farming Red Marisa.

>>35845931
Is that something I am going to do a lot?

>>35845915
Flan, Medicine, Cirno, Sunny, Lily, Luna, and Chen are your best options because they are the cutest
And yes, Medicine can single-handedly farm Yukari (auto) and Marisa (manual), so she's a good choice.

>>35845945
Yes because her story card is one of the best in the game.

When does Global get someone more broken than Medicine for barrier bosses?

>>35846058
No way to know

Are we not getting a JP update today?

>>35846091
All the banners are running until the 30th. They must have nothing left for this month.

Holy fucking shit I just accidentally deleted the app of my phone (iOS). Is this the end? I’d been playing since launch and I don’t want to lose everything

>>35847114
*off of
God shit fuck I’m so scared I had 3 sparks saved up for when my favourites rolled around

>>35847114
If you have linked the game to twitter/facebook then you can instantly get it back. If you do not have that but still have your account number, then you can contact their support and have them send you over a restoration code.

>>35847114
you did link to discord at least?

>>35847298
>>35847180
I didn’t link to anything (I don’t have anyone to message so no point in having apps like Discord)
I’ll probably just give up. Was fun while it lasted. Thanks for the help though

>>35847410
Check your screenshots to see if you ever took one that has your account number in it. You can still try to contact their support without it because they will ask for your player and account name anyway.

>>35845915
In the current global meta Medicine is the best non-fes limited character. Poison is the most effective element as it has the fewest characters who immune, absorb, or are strengthened by it. Furthermore Medicine is capable of laying on 6 layers of poison to one target the first turn with good luck. She will drop off some as more meta characters get released, but even with Marisa Rojo and Suika out now she is still one of my frequently used friends. You will need to invest a lot of tokens and materials to ungrade and fully awaken her, but it is absolutely worth it.

>>35847410
Yeah bro, if only there was a way to create some sort of password that would allow you to link or recover your account every time without having to resort to using social media.

>>35847114
>playing for a lot of time
>still not linking the account
Why people does shit like this?

>>35847180
>>35847298
Not that anon, how do I link it to anything but facebook? I can't find the option anywhere.

>>35848371
Create transfer code, take a screenshot, and store it somewhere safe.

>>35847114

Just made it to floor 29, I don't know if I'm gonna make it to the top in time on the free healing.
Might spend a few cubes on heals so I'll have less to think about next time we get tower.

>>35849227
You should make it before the end of the event unless you miss a free healing and/or play retarded. Tip for Floor 30 - if you can't break Patchouli in 1 turn, then don't bother with breaks. Just focus solo spell cards and LW on her if you have them (she resists All at the start). Once you bring her to <50% HP, she stops restoring barriers for the party so you can switch to the usual full break + LW.

>>35847114
Damnit anon, the first thing that you should do in a gacha game is make a password or ID linking.
Now be ready to start all over, at least you only lost like a month of progress

The tower lined up perfectly with my finals week and I could only make it to floor 20 by throwing my MLB friends at it

cubes everywhere

>>35847134
>>35847114

KANAKO

Maintenance notes, Kosuzu's event is coming soon. Festival prayer for Kanako and Suwako will be up, and the countdown of CH3 means it will be coming soon for Global. Get ready.

>>35850295
Both are apparently in the same prayer, so you may just get an extra frog with that hag.

>>35850295
riiing riiing

>>35850320
Is Kanako a tank? I rember her in tower comp posts from jp bros.

I'm not going to fall for the tier list meme again, what is Kanako's niche and why is Suwako A tier

I feel compelled to roll for Kanako because she took my 1cc virginity but my monkey brain sees A tier over B tier and can't decide

>>35850320
>Kanako and Suwako before moon sisters
People implied the banners were in order of appearance but at this point is clear that they wanted to rush Suika for easy money and then back to the "JP order".
At this point is clear that you can't know when they will release your waifu, be safe save that spark all the time.

>Patchi skin
And i still missing her...

>>35850363
>you can't know when they will release your waifu

Thank god i have Cirno already then lol

>>35850320
>Chapter 3
Yes...Story...im thirsty AF.

Snakebros...
we won...

>>35850363
I have 1900 cubes and I won't fall for any tricks!
We're getting Tenshi any minute now...

>>35850397
It was just a matter of time...

Who cares for the Hag

OUR QUEEN...OUR GODDESS has decended! All hail the mighty MORIYA

Yes, finally a festival for cool characters! I've been dying for one since Yuyuko.

>>35850320
Holy shit the smug on Kanako

Snek is tank and froge is single target LW nuke. Kanako has the highest HP out of all tanks, in fact only Eirin has more HP than her in general and she also has a passive heal. She can only buff herself though. Suwako just hits hard. She has some metal, water and earth elements to work with but her LW is single target only.

>>35850356
Almost every hag is tank or healer, that's bad for general purposes you need only damage but good if you're doing tower stall and extra

>>35850343
Excellent image.

>>35850453
SWK is god

>>35850320
Does chapter 3 means we are getting edgy myon and loli yuyu soon ?

>>35851125
Hopefully they don't get released too soon, like around half anniversary would be good to release Youmu Oscura, and Loliko for Anniversary

>>35850320
Updated Attack table and Status table. To be honest Kosuzu looks better than Snek and Frog. She can apply blind to all and break all. Also she buffs her Yin Atk and Crit Acc with skills so using her in the vanguard to Yin Atk Up and Crit Acc Up herself before rotating in a rearguard with Attack Link like Remilia will let Remi come in with Yin Atk Up and Crit Atk up without the downsides to Kosuzu's skill (they debuff Yang Atk and Crit Eva) as they are not inherited by Attack Links. I could probably see using Kosuzu as a status break machine and then when the shields are down bringing in Remi or Suwako (another mostly Yin hitter with Attack Link) to exploit the defenseless target.

Kosuzu is the draw for me brother

>>35851477
On second thought I misread that. It appears she only breaks blind. Updated the Status table to reflect the change.

Which Touhou do you think has the best overall voice, which you think accurately represents the character as you think they would sound?

>>35851621
Junko has the best voice.

>>35851621
One of the Marisa voices reminds me of her voice in Memory of Phantasm which has pretty much solidified that voice in my head as to what Marisa actually sounds like. It's a little less genki and slightly higher pitch than the one in MoP, but it is close enough that the two blend together in my head. Marisa should have a slightly husky voice that gets a little higher pitch when she is excited. Also I envision her with a Kansei ben.

>>35851621
I really like Suika's. Don't know about being accurate, it just cracks me up.

>>35851687
I don't like it at all. Suika should be voiced by Izawa Shiori using something similar to her Tampopo or Schrodinger voice, but with a drunken slur and a lot more laughing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eErIkZqAA10

>>35844019
She has can do 6 metal breaks in two turn. Most useful fairy in my opinion ok

>>35851759
I do like Izawa's voice. Doesen't she voice Tewi?

dai-chan numba wan!

>>35851621
Dai-chan.

>>35851621
I can’t imagine any voice being more perfect than Keine’s.
https://youtu.be/Lh_Ynob16zM

>>35850320
>Both at the same banner
My dick is ready

>>35851254
god i really REALLY hope they've learned their lesson about not releasing super FES very early on
because if they didn't then oh man would this anger people

>>35853157
Oh really? What will people do about it? Bitch? Moan? Drop the game? Ha!
QQ all you want, units will be released in the order I please and you all addicts will pay for cubes regardless.

>>35853185
i need global to survive without any hassle
red marisa really early on was already bad enough of an incident
i sincerely wish they now know that releasing super FES very early is a small brain move and release them later on
like the previous anon said, emo yoom on half anniv and loliko on anniv would be perfect

>Kanako and Suwako next

Goddamnit Kaguya WHEN!?

FINALLY at floor 30.
I'm pretty sure the order here is to barrier break and nuke then just walk away. If anybody has tips on this just in case I'm walking into a trap let me know.

>>35847410
Honestly it's probably for the best. Come back in a few months when you're bored and want to check out what global has fucked up next.
>>35847529
Correct me if I'm wrong but that code changes each time you back it up. I'm not sure how it works exactly but I'm scared enough to make a twatter now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rKzB36oU8E

Huh. I thought her voice would be deeper.

>>35850320
Surely they're rushing, i hope they don't release the little ghost, i don't want more doomposting

Where are my Meiling buffs, gobal!?

>>35854448
proof shes not a hag

>>35854448
I agree, that voice doesn’t work for me. Hopefully one of the three options is deeper.

>>35854292
You can use one code multiple times, it doesnt expire on usage like FGO transfer codes.

I should be fine to get Kanako if my plan for global is to get eiki and Okuu right?

>>35854579
Nice try Sanae, you're not fooling us

>>35854537
They said after tower, but considering they didn't even know about them until someone in the stream told them there were going to buff meiling there is a greater than zero chance they forgot about it.

>>35847114
>>35847410
This is so sad...please tell me you somehow got in contact with the mods/dev team and you were able to get your account and friends back.

>>35847180
>>35847298
how do you link to things like twitter? on the transfer code screen there's only a link to generate the code and a connection to Facebook

>>35854481
yea same
anyways completed floor 30
was harder than expected since it seems like at max ascension red marisa has burn in her spellcards or smth
really messes up everything because i need medicine to fullbreak both but only ended up with patche full breaking
at least i just have to stall out koa which is easy since reimu and red marisa has sun and fire respectively on their normal shots which makes things easier
until i forgot to use graze on reimu and she gets killed with koa's spellcard

>>35854902
Yeah, Rank 5 Witch of Scarlet Dreams has 1 (+1 50%) on both her Spell Cards. One is 2 turns and the other is 3.

>>35854981
really annoys me imo
like if she doesn't just make one barrier burning i would have been able to fullbreak both of them at like turn 2 with LW spam

>>35854990
You could always bring in Mokou(all) or Reisen(solo) to break them

>>35855021
the thing is that in floor 30 you can't switch frens around and mokou needs to be at 3P with her spread shit to break burns

>>35854981
I'm curious. Are you the bread guy?

>>35855105
there's a lot of anons here who were desperate for red marisa
you gotta be specific

I think I need a check on how big of a retard I am...when people say "stat sticks" what do they mean? Do the stats on Story Cards get passively added to the stats of the character, even without using the Spell Card? Or do you have to actually use the Spell Card w/ the attached Story Card to get the stats?

>>35855147
I think that just about answers my question. You're one of the bread guys.
wew, these threads man. The ride never ends.
I got one Scarlet Witch for free and decided to keep the rest of my cubes. It goes without saying I didn't get much use out of a lv70 witch.

>>35855261
You get the stats as soon as you equip them. You can see the +XX on the girl's status screen once you equip them.
>>35855311
You're making something out of nothing, man.

>>35854981
>mlb marisa
>600 cubes

are you me? also I dont rank her to 5 because i dont want her charge skill. that will fuck up the auto run in the future

>>35854981
Oh, are we posting Marisa Rojo (forma perfecto)?
>>35855368
What do you mean? Her Charge skill has never caused me any problem.

>>35855412
its a precaution for black youmu in story 3

>>35837908
this post reads like a 2009 /jp/ post, weirdly nostalgic

>>35855442
Oh. Welp, too late to go back now I guess.

>>35855412
I see you are a man of taste as well.

>>35855368
In the future auto-runs will include Hina whose Yin Def, Crit Def, and Crit Eva DOWN will need to go before Redrisa nukes.

>>35855543
My man. And hey that's nice to hear. Glad that I didn't fuck up with her skills.

Dark Myon is just the first step in the plan to create the ultimate incident resolver. When all five Ultra Fes friends have been released there will be an option to reincarnate them all as a single friend.

this is how you win the LostWord

>>35855311
nah
the only thing i bought was the bargain pack

>>35855662
oh god this is unironically terrifying

>>35855658
You shouldn't be auto-running anyway. It is bad and dumb. Running a macro is the thinking man's auto-run and if you fail-proof your rotation and team it does not lose. You get more spirit efficiency by running more mechanically complex rotations that allow greater damage output at a low total spirit cost per run by allowing you to use lower cost units that have not been fully upgraded or MLBed. Hina only needs her third skill unlocked and MLBed to debuff and delay Youmu's charge. This gives Marisa time to use her 2nd SC and gain two valuble levels of Spirit ensuring maximum destruction for Youmu Obscura. The time sink is greater, but ultimately means nothing as you can run it while you sleep and it will just stop when you run out of Spirit Power.

>>35855710
You've never seen Mazeran's Touhou persona series? Shit is great. He works out each character's shadow based on their true self they hide behind their persona.
Chegidout
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/4731

>>35855662
>this is how you win the LostWord
I haven't laughed this hard in days.

>>35855105
I bleed for the maidens

>>35855662
I have a feeling that if this was real ZUN would switch Sakuya and Sanae's placements.
>>35855731
I play the game on an ipad so it's not like I have macros available anyway outside of Switch Control pressing the Rematch button for me. So far I'm managing fine but yeah macros do seem like the best option once you have a control scheme that works flawlessly.

>>35855731
Why would I care about macro in a mobile game with hardly any content and no pvp or other competitive stuff? Seems like there is nothing to in this game except tower, that need you to grind for.

>>35855876
>nothing
to do, i mean.

I only just realized that feeding characters, even if they're at max level, is how you definitely get them to have double star condition. Home screening them might also work? I don't know. Pretty sure home screening any character rockets them up to best friend status, though.

>>35855914
Feeding characters does nothing to get them to double star; being in school without food will get them to double star at the same speed.

>>35855953
I mean it doesn't matter whether food is involved or not. I have 3000 of every kind of food but premium basically at all times so may as well. Besides, I'm always throwing people who aren't maxed in there anyway cause why not.

But, I'll probably save 3 spots for heavy hitters with this in mind.

>>35855851
Someone did talk about donating plasma just for Scarlet Marisa.

>>35855859
Do you have a PC? If so just emulate android and install the apk for Lost Word. Generate a transfer code and you can use your PC to grind while you sleep and then take your iPad with you wherever you go to play as you like. It is easy as fuck to script up a macro to do the exact commands you want and just loop it. When your friends run out or moral the cycle will just stop and keep refreshing asking if you want to continue and drop your characters friendship level without ever accepting and dropping it. When you return to your computer you just cancel the macro.

>>35855876
Well, and this is just my humble opinion, even though the Tower is the most enjoyable part of the game on which I have waxed poetic previously in this thread, it is best to head into it with your characters upgraded as much as possible so that you have the widest variety of options at their maximum potential, so that you may develop the most elegant solution to a particular floor with the friends that you have. This becomes especially important when you have many friends to choose from and need to devote time to leveling them and grinding the specific material you need in order to enhance them. In fact I have made a meta-game of creating teams that utilize the weakest friends I have, that are still capable of farming the specific event levels I need, to procure the materials I need, to enhance my most important characters I have. With 29 friends at my disposal that is a lot of levels needed to be gained and even more materials.

Granted it wasn't until the tower that I learned every friend (except pre-buff Meiling) had value and focused on leveling those who help the most innate potential, but I still worked on it. It is another level of the meta-game that forms the basis of understanding each character as intimately as possible. When you are forced to become familiar with every detail of every shot and SC you will understand better how to utilize them in the tower. That, in and of itself, is fun but also leads you being able to look at characters you have not even played before and be able to make a rational judgement as to their intrinsic value independent of ranking charts or another person's subjective opinion. Being able to take characters that otherwise could not be auto-run, figuring out the ideal card layout and team comp, the exact order of operations for each turn, and executing it so that it can run until your energy is depleted is just as fun as the tower.

Look, you have the two weeks of an event to grind the gold materials, followed by one week of double mission drops to farm cards. There is loads of potential autism to be found and the only limitation is your own creativity. So why not take your autism to the max and make the time you actively spend at the game productive by figuring out the optimum solution with the resources you have, and then let a macro execute that solution for you?

Again just my opinion, but to me this is really fun. Not as fun as the Tower since it requires self-discipline and the tower is a challenge. But still pretty fun.

>>35856097
I wish cards and friends had their information more easily available. I love the tiny report you get on each of them when you form your team on the tower, but that's only available for the tower, and the options for sorting and browsing cards are extremely limited (and obtuse) which makes it frustrating for me to look for the better choices.

>>35856124
Okay, I already made the hyper link on the Ch. 2 Ep. 7: Return of the Shrine Maiden Pt. 2 mission page for The Witch of Scarlet Dreams, I guess I can make a template for Story Cards and add them to the wiki. Don't know when it will get done, but I guess sometime. This might give me a little focus to work on the mission pages to be honest. I was getting overwhelmed at having to do them all, but if I focus on the story card ones first that will make the job seem smaller. Then I can make the page for those cards.

But not tonight. I have nine more beers to finish before bed and that is in an hour and 20 minutes.

>>35856097
Yeah I do have a PC but I just don't concern myself that much with emulating and macroing a gacha just to save on SP. If I am to drop this game one day, all that optimizations and efforts would have gone to waste either way.
I understand the fun in working out that exact combination and sequence but for me the optimization stops at the Full Auto function and the Rematch button. Can it be pushed further? Yes but I've already found my comfy station. It's great that you are willing to go the distance though. Thank you for all the effort, anon.

So is there any way to actually full auto Witch of Scarlet Dreams?

>>35855662
god i cant wait for Super Perfect Sakuya, War God Reisen, Goddess Sanae, and Hakurei forma de Eternal Shrine Maiden

Bonus points if they extend the "hag masters into lolis" units for Okina, Eirin, and Kanako, and also make the loli mentors into hags like Remi and Suwako

I'd also settle for a True Kasen fes character

>>35856246
Yuyuko with a P boost on her LW and Medicine, according to some anons

>>35856246
Yes. MLB Medicine, MLB Yuyuko with a 1.5P+ card on her LW, and an AOE LW 2hu for cleaning up the fire fairy. I used that team to fullauto and farmed all these cards during the drop up periods.

>>35856246
>>35856276
Fuck, no Yuyuko and they said they didn't wanna do reruns. Guess it's the manual life for me unless they release another strong wood type 2hu.

>>35856246
Yuyuko FLBed+Max upgraded skills+Fully awoken. Medicine FLBed+Max upgraded skills+Fully awoken.
Any level 98 character and higher that is FLBed and not shit.

The key is Medi being fully awoken and her skills maxed to ensure the maximum number of poison stacks are applied. Yuyuko will kill any remaining shields on Marisa Alter and nuker her with her last word. The only issue is the remaining No Element fairy and usually she only survives with ~10k live after your third party member nukes. Then it is just a few turns. She seems to have high Yin Def and lower Yang Def so a Yang attacker makes her go down quicker in the case that she doesn't get full broken by medi. I have full-autoed with a 98-100 Tewi while I ground her up and not had the mission fail. Even Meiling at level 99 can do it.

>>35856276
>>35856275
I run Yuyuko with this no problems.

>>35856367
Why MLB the cards but not enhance them fully? Neither of Yuyuko's specka use normal bullets, so the MLB can't be helping with that.

>>35856320
They probably just don't have any planned right now, but they'll rerun her eventually. For context, JP didn't get a Yuyuko rerun until September.

>>35856320
I don't have Yuyuko too, but I run a team with mlb Medi + additional wood (it's Sanae or Lily White for me. Don't have Lily lw though) + strong lw unit.
This comp is less consistent, I'd say 1/5 fails when Medi doesn't apply additional poison, but I got used to ignore the stamina loss and already got 5 cards from her.

>>35856408
Because I use those cards for other friends who do benefit from the MLB bonuses to Normal Bullet types. Since I am using them I put the barest minimum of tiles into them for stats that I won't need for upgrading characters. 30% up for Normal Bullets is a great buff to attack for certain spell cards. For example Cirno's second spell card is all normal bullets so I am giving her a flat 30% increase to attack by slotting that card in both of them.
https://files.catbox.moe/29p77r.mkv

>>35856424
Hmm. I could MLB Lily White but I'm not sure about using one of my paper dolls for that. Also she probably won't go before Medicine/3rd character so Marisa wouldn't be broken until she goes and the damage will be less, is that not so?

>>35856526
My Sanae without agi cards attacks after Medi. She does full break herself and inflicts around 50-70k dmg to Marisa only due to her solo target lw. Then Ran comes out with her lw and deletes everyone.
I tried agi card and it really didnt matter for me. As I said before, the real problem was rng skill, because Sanae/Lily have only 1 wooden break. With that, if Medi fails to apply additional status and break it, Sanae wouldnt be enough to make a full break.

How do I full auto anything with Medicine? My other friends just go faster than her... Ran specifically. Is there a Story Card that makes sure Medicine goes first?

>>35856526
Also Ran's 3rd skill make her attack last in one category (lw > spellcards > autos), so it doesnt matter how much agi does she have.

>>35856477
I don't know the calculations, but wouldn't a Yin Atk up be better for Cirno's 2nd specka? Unless you're running low on those.
>I put the barest minimum of tiles into them
Makes sense, but it's not like the tile cost is that high for going beyond +3. Just seems like a strange thing to not invest in if you have the resources.

>>35856594
Level her up, bro. She even has a passive +1lvl agi boost on graze, and if I understand correctly, graze applies on full auto. My lvl 100 Medi has 950 agi and she goes first, way before girls with 25% more agi than her.
And this >>35856602

>>35856622
She's level 100, rank 5 and with stats maxed out... I swear that I just saw Ran go first before everyone else while using all of her skills, maybe I'm going crazy

>>35854799
The jap version has a button for twitter. Maybe global will get it later.

>>35856583
What card for Ran LW? An accuracy card?

>>35856632
That can't be a thing, Ran applies charge to herself with 3rd skill, it forces her to attack last.

>>35856632
You're going crazy, Ran's 3rd skill forces her to go last.

>>35856367
How do you still full auto runs where Medicine's 2nd skill hits a bad roll and leaves Marisa with 1 Barrier? Who is your third 2hu?

>>35856632
This is possible if you have another character who has Charge on one of her skills because only 1 charge can be active at once.

>>35856643
Yes.
I dont think I even have a card that boosts her type of damage (earth and heavy), and she doesnt achieve 100% accuracy by herself

>>35856648
>>35856651
>>35856668
HOLY SHIT! I was going crazy, you guys are right. I'm able to full auto Lunatic Marisa with Medicine, Patchy and my own Marisa Roja. This is nuts. She's sadly surviving on one barrier sometimes, but I guess that's what to expect until Yuuka releases. I couldn't get Yuyuko, but at least I managed to get the three copies of Marisa needed to LMB her.

>>35854716
Okuu is not even in jp, and Eiki was released like two weeks ago. You should be ok.

>>35856683
Alright I did it and it worked the first time but the fairies survive the attacks, presumably because I haven't fully awakened Ran. Wish I could use Suika instead but she's too fast.

>>35856720
I tried Marisa, but sometimes she doesnt kill fairies with her lw.
I'm actually dissappointed with the fact that she does less damage than non-fes Ran. Yes, Marisa itself resists her lw, but why doesnt she kill fairies?

I can't full auto Marisa but a macro for picking skills and swap characters works fine enough

>>35856825
Yeah, it's really unfortunate.

>>35856825
>crit res enchanser
Wait I might be dumb. Marisa relies on crits, but Ran's damage come from her strong Yang boost.

>>35856424
1 manual step of Medi using her spellcard (preferably with +1.5P) guarantees a 2-3turn kill
You can select the card and hit full auto, you still use the spellcard instead of the LW and you still use all the skills.

Sanae is going back to lvl 100 with food alone at this rate. I already feel bad for the people who will eventually reincarnate Reisen 2 or the biggest of fairies. At least Patchouli could eventually clear lunatic event stages on her own.

Floatan trio assembled

>>35858066
Where's Kokoro?

>>35857950
Think of how fat her heals will get

>>35858888
Sorry I don't have her

Is there anyone ripping the all the amazing art besides the gelbooru guy who uploads erratically? I remember there being a Google doc but I can't find it anymore.

>>35856606
Generally speaking there is no one size fits all perfect layout for Story Cards. While there are certain undeniable BiS Story Cards for certain Friend's Certain Spell Cards, as a rule of thumb you are not going to want to run Cirno on auto specifically because of her 2nd Skill which will provide 2(+1 50%) Yin Atk Up at the cost of 1(+1 50%) Yang Atk Down. So you have a .75 probability that bother effects will proc, a .25 probability that neither will, resulting in a 25% chance of ending up with either +3 Yin Atk UP and +1 Yang Atk DOWN or +2 Yin Atk Up and +2 Yang Atk DOWN. As the distribution on her Last Word at 1PW is Yang - Yin - Yang, with the single Water break located on her first Yang under the best circumstances of a 25% chance that the Yin Atk UP procs but the Yang Atk DOWN doesn't you will only have a very slight increase in damage. 75% of the time you will lose DPS due to how Yin/Yang Atk UP/DOWN is applied in successive layers additively.

Therefore it is generally better to seek an alternative friend to use when Auto farming as the single break provided is usually found through other sources such as status breaks.

For all other situations how you play Cirno will depend on the enemy composition, party composition if any, and any floor restrictions if applicable. While some situations may call for using Cirno's 2nd SC to provide the majority of her damage output, it most cases the DPS provided by a Yang focused build and her All targeting 1st SC and LW will outstrip that of a Yin focused build and her 2nd SC. Her 2nd SC has a single Freeze on it which is unreliable and short lived(2 turn), it requires 3Pw to break that Freeze, and it is solo targeting. As the only guaranteed source of Freeze provided by Cirno is her 1st Skill which is all targeting and 1(+1 90%). It is more often than not better to rely on her LW to break that Skill Feeze as it will break it on all characters. Furthermore Cirno's 1st SC provides 3 turns of 2 Yang Atk UP with no downsides, is mostly Yang itself, and is all targeting. Building towards a Yang Atk focus benefits Cirno's overall DPS. Thus in most cases her 2nd SC should be used primarily to specifically target the barriers on Water disadvantaged foes (which it does rather well at 1Pw) rather than as a primary means of damage dealing.

As for tiles, I have a lot of characters, they require a lot to upgrade. I also have a lot of different cards which also take a lot to upgrade. It takes 100 tiles to upgrade a 5* card to +3. Depending on the card it could take a lot more bronze tiles or 100 silver tiles to hit the unMLBed +6 cap for a card. I am chronically short of tiles from upgrading friends and can't afford to go around spending them on cards that already have upgraded copies. Why upgrade more than 2 copies of Lively Temple grounds when I have multiple copies of Overwhelming Firepower and Ordinary Magician that are used far more frequently on many more characters.

>>35862074
There's a doc of the game's content from the LW >discord, so you can give it a shot. The game is made with Unity, you could also try to learn how to rip the files at your own risk.

>>35856825
Marisa Alters's LW damage is Yin only and Crit focused. Starting at 10% base Crit Acc at 0Pw it scales to 50% base Crit Acc for the last bullet of the barrage at 3Pw. That doesn't even factor in her Pre-Attack that give 2 levels of Crit Acc and Crit Atk Up, the fact that all of her bullets are Explosive Special Bullet Effects which give a bonus to scaling bonus to Crit Acc based upon the enemy's DEF, that 2 of the bullets lower Crit Eva by 2 levels each, or that one lowers Crit Def by a level. Then you factor in her 3rd skill which gives you 2 more levels of Crit Atk and Crit Acc UP. Red Marisa's entire kit is centered around the idea of building stacks of Spirit Power, chaining buffs, breaking elemental barriers, and then unleashing a single overwhelming Yin Crit based attack.
You can't expect her to have the same level of spike damage on turn 1 that Ran has when Ran's kit is centered around instant application of 11 stacks of Yang Atk UP, but over the course of 3 to 5 turns Marisa Alter is overwhelmingly more powerful as well as being capable of breaking barriers with four different elements using every attack she possesses.

https://files.catbox.moe/7hvhud.mkv
In this video I had cards slotted for Yang Atk Up to provide more general damage buffs for her Spell Cards. If I had focused entirely on the LW I could have made the damage spike much greater by slotting an MLBed Eating contest into the LW and slotting Overwhelming Firepower into everything else.

So if I wanted to rush the tower who should I focus on first?

Also is awakening important? I’ve been avoiding it to keep spirit cost low.

>>35863573
Rushing the tower probably going to cost you a lot of seal crystals if you want to do it now and you probably won't get very far with the characters you have and how they are leveled. You should prepare for the next series of floors and try to level up your characters so that you have at least one friend who is capable of breaking any single element. Medicine is very good for the sheer number of status breaks she can provide. Pachi is very good in the first 30 floors because she can party up with any team and provide at least one break for any element.
Just spend the next period gradually leveling and MLBing your characters with a focus on those that offer elemental breaks at zero power (Sunny - Sun, Luna - Moon, Remi - Fire, Cirno - Water, Medicine - Wood, Youmu - Metal, Yukari - Earth, Marisa - Star) or Characters can can cover several elements with multiple breaks (Suika, Pachi, Sanae).

As for awakening they can either be very good or not so much. They are very good in the case of friends like Suika and Ran for the partywide accuracy their spell cards off. Accuracy is one of the most important buffs to have so that you can ensure the bullets in your barrage that carry elements actually hit. Having an external source of Acc UP provided by a friend's Spell Cards or Skills allows you to avoid slotting your spell cards with Acc UP buff cards and frees you up to slot in cards that will boost your damage output. A fully awoken Ran brings 2 levels of Acc Up on her 2nd card that lasts 3 turns. Suika offers 3 levels for 2 turns her 2nd Spell Card as well as buffing her Yin/Yang def 4/3 levels for 3 turns on her 1st Spell Card, and debuffing the entire enemy team's Yin/Yang 2 levels for 3 turns on her LW. Fully Awakening Medicine is another solid choice as both her Spell Cards off additional access to poison procs to either a single target or the entire enemy party which can translate to some serious help in when dealing with floors in which an enemy recovers 1 barriers status each turn. Being able to place 2(+1 60%) stacks of poison each turn can significantly shorten the time it takes to clear certain floors and improve your chances of surviving. Just understand that enemy barrier recovery takes place in the pre-battle phase so if you are expecting to use Medicine's skills to inflict poison expecting to break everything with her LW that the enemy will retain 1 barrier, so it is best to plan to attack that barrier with an elemental break, or to plan your turn order so that someone like Ran lays an additional layer or poison on the target before Medicine uses her last word.

>>35820155
So, how is 2hu lost world doing in the world of gachas?
I fucking detest gachas after sinkling hundreds of hours in some of them so I haven't played one in years.
Is it doing well? is it doing bad? will it get abandoned? is noniap viable or its whale friendly?
I'm not gonna lie I'm getting baited by my cute girls, but FUCK GACHA.

Maybe I should just save the .pngs as they come out and call it a day.

>>35862072
That is a pretty big problem and you should fix it immediately.

>>35863870
Storywise it is a solid 9/10
They found a way to make it possible that every possible Gensokyo that every fan and doujin circle can image could be real. Your Gensokyo that you have in your heart is just as valid real as anyone else's, but because it will always have at least one element that is "Lost", it is incomplete compared to the true Gensokyo. In the game this means, for example, that there is a Gensokyo where there was no Reimu, and it explores the way changed the world and led to a broken Marisa driven mad. There are an infinite number of these Gensokyos that have lost a Word and you, the player, are traveling with the true Gensokyo's Reimu and company through these different worlds and helping them find what they lost so they can heal. You are a key of sorts that makes it possible travel between these world.
Evidentially before any update or event is released it has to have Zun's full approval so even in these parallel world Gensokyos there are characterizations consistent with Zun's vision. There are moments where the English translation starts to bother me though.

Gameplay ranges from 3 to 8/10
Most of the game can be played on autopilot with meta units, but when you get to the tower all that goes out the window and you will be kicking yourself for not leveling all your characters and learning their kit inside and out. The Tower is unironically great and requires that you have intimate knowledge off all the options you have and how the mechanics interact with each other in order to clear it efficiently and quickly. It also allows you the opportunity to test your team and card layout against the floor you are challenging free of cost and as many times as you want until you are confident you have found the perfect solution with the Friends and Cards you have.

As for the gacha elements of the game they are pretty forgiving. Most of the characters enter the general pool with the exception of Fes, and Super Fes friends. You will gain enough of the drawing resource to spark one banner a month easily. To MLB your friends you will be able to earn five of the limit breaking item each month which is enough to MLB a base character with no additional copies. The exception to the above stated is the Super Fes friends or which one has been released on Global and three total on JP. Super Fes friends require 1250 of the gacha currency to spark as opposed to the 750 all other banners cost. They also require a special form of the limit breaking item which can only be found in the Tower or through extremely rare giveaways.

As for the game sticking around I don't really know. Global was looking like they were trying to milk the whales and run for a minute by releasing meta characters and a Super Fes friend way earlier and fast than they probably should, but they have eased back on that and are bringing over gameplay content that they probably wouldn't if it was a simple cash grab like Tower and Arena. JP version seems to be going strong even if the main missions are being released at a rather slow pace.

You should probably just collect the gifs. They are really nice and you don't want to end up like the bread anons.

>>35864074
>bread anons.
what happened

At least bread anons are not as bad as plasma anons

>>35864353
Anons were posting about spending all their money on this game. They then shared advice on living on no money, such as getting stale bread from bakeries, selling plasma, etc,

>>35865186
fucking retard consoomers.

>>35865200
You mean fucking based modern day samurai, willing to bleed and starve for a cause.

Was trying out Mokou since I'm trying to use different characters from usual on the Special stages in order to save energy from my A team farmers, but she kept dying. Now I know: her fucking cards kill her.

Like, okay, that's *kind of* canon. She does take damage or outright kill herself in some attacks but what the fuck man, she *recovers*. She's immortal!

Her final skill is a mere 20% chance to barely heal herself? What the fuck is that?

Mokou seriously needs a fucking buff this is horse shit. Her final skill should have been a literal full health recovery, guaranteed, upon "death". Hell, Kaguya should have something like that too if she doesn't (and Eirin). Once per battle is fine, but come the fuck on. As it stands she critically wounds herself and you have to have a healer for her, even though by her own like lore or whatever she needs no healers--she automatically heals.

I'm mad (because I love Mokou)

>>35865824
Her spread shot heals her.

>>35865824
But she heals in her spread shot what are you talking about, mokou is for stalling, kill things with spell card then spread shot heal her

>>35865942
muh full auto though

Also that's still not as good as a revival (something basically any game with Mokou features: kills herself, but also revives usually once)

>>35865949
Full auto, mate. Why would I want to think on Special stages? Unless you don't know what they are. They're basically slightly harder dailies. Also her fifth skill is still trash given full context.

>>35865824
mokou is pretty strong for a non fes. her spread shot at power 3 can break any barriers with fire debuff. you can get her power to 5 with her healing spread shot, which is pretty damn good.

>>35865982
She's clearly useful for Tower content, but still could be better.

I'm no fan of specialized types, fit for specific purposes. Well that and it's just counter to how I usually use Mokou in things (rush enemy, explode, live)

>>35865993
actually come to think of it ironically they implemented revival on death in the latest story content, but none of the characters who use it are Hourai immortals.

It's also very annoyingly done. When their HP hits zero they still take any queued up attacks, and they won't store that damage into the next bar. In other words, you will waste attacks on them, then they fully recover.

>>35865956
Why do you think mokou is low in any decent tierlist? She's specialist in stalling when you need to use your brain to heal and break burn barriers, nothing more

so you want a mokou that have crazy heals and ressurection

that makes it way harder to fight her if shes the enemy

>>35866017
I'm aware. She shouldn't be like that.

Similarly I used to complain about Reimu when none of you were here because her skillset made her complete

>>35866024
see >>35866005
>they implemented revival on death in the latest story content, but none of the characters who use it are Hourai immortals.

(ps: it's not hard to fight them even with the annoying caveat that they tank damage at 0)

>>35866029
>they implemented revival on death
I forgot about that. it would be actually neat

>>35866017
Messed up a post.

I'm aware. She shouldn't be like that. Similarly I used to complain about Reimu when none of you were here because her skillset made her complete trash. They have since buffed her into one of the best units in the game, as should have always been the case. Not because of my complaining, maybe the JP players were saying "why the fuck is Reimu so useless"
Mokou isn't useless, but my point is that she ought to be more representative of what she is. It's less frustrating that way. In Reimu's case, she's usually a character who's decent at surviving and has one fuckoff powerful end skill. This now applies to her in LW, thankfully. Used to leave me bitter knowing it was pointless to ever not bench her

>>35865824
>>35865956
So...Mokou is bad because she's not a unit you can set on full auto and not think about. Okay.

>>35866133
Yes, and?

Anonymous, there's only one kind of content in this game that CAN'T be full auto'd and, in actuality, it still can be it's just not efficient to do so. I hope you don't think Lost Word is a big brain gameplay titan, because no, it's mainly a "which of these units are best to set to auto or full auto and clear the content so I can eventually collect girls I like"

>>35866172
I'm not the one ranting on an anonymous image board because a character in a gacha doesn't do exactly what my headcanon says she should.

>>35866186
Headcanon? Are you fucking stupid?

>>35862921
> I had cards slotted for Yang Atk Up to provide more general damage buffs for her Spell Cards.
Why Yang, I didnt understand? Only two last bullets in her spellcards inflict Yang dmg, its mostly Yin. The only reason to boost Yang I can think of is to use this assassin buff on spellcard. Is that an unswer? Besides "those with connections to resolving incidents" are Reimu, Marisa and maybe Sanae only?

BROS! I FINALLY GOT MY FIRST LUNATIC STORY CARD DROP!

>>35866399
blessed are Ran's giant tits

>>35866293
It's an Attribute build to exploit special crits on Reimu, Yukari, Marisa, Alice, Sakuya, Remi, Youmu, Yuyuko, Reisen, Sanae, Cirno, Dai-chan, Sunny, Luna, Star, Flan, Pachi, and Meiling. Technically it works on Marisa Alter, but her resistances make it essentially useless since the Scarlet Devil Mansion typing is on her 1st SC.

>>35866399
i also remembered my first orgasm

>>35865210
Happened when suika banner surprised everyone and doomposters were everywhere. those times

2000 cubes stocked, Tenshi is so far away...

Started working on the character attibutes page. Will try and finish it tomorrow provided the kitten doesn't take up my free time by Yelling at me to be played with until he falls asleep.
https://lostword.miraheze.org/wiki/Character_Attributes

>>35866399
I haven’t beaten Lunatic Red… I hope Medicine or at least Lily White joins while I roll Suwako this week. Tfw I can beat tower 30f but not Red.

>>35868691
You can at least through cubes at the tower to clear it.

>>35868710
I didnt even have to. MLB Yukari carries hard. But having no Yuyuko, Medicine or Lily White males Lunatic Red almost impossible. And I am not willing to awaken shitters who arent useful for anything else.

Oh, the tower stays today as well. What a pleasant surprise, it felt bad to leave this almost finished stage for the next time.

Can I get some advice for floor 30? I'm not sure what to do when my usual strat is to have some weaklings break the barriers so I can switch to my heavy hitters and spam last words. I thought they didn't have barrier restoration so I figured I'd chip their barriers down slowly and try to hold out until I could switch but patchy restores barriers so that's a no go. Also it's risky to only use one graze cause their attacks hit every party member so someone's in danger of getting one shot.

>>35869580
Patchi only restores barriers until she has 50% life or less.

Wastefull: spam her with spellcards and LWs until 50%, the grad STAR units, break her and kill her. Then do koakuma

Efficiently: Use medicine to poison her barriers, as she has no barrier healing, break her in a single turn and spam her down to 50%, then carry on like usual.

Also, why are so many units stopping at 1 health? Is there some sort of focus sash available for fairy units?

>>35869580
I hate to say this but you're gonna have to let some friends take the fall.
If you get patchy under 50% hp barrier restores will stop. My advice is to put your weakest star damage girls up front and slap on a few P cards to make sure every elemental bullet is activated. (Star for this instance has 3 of those for each solo spell)
Sanae and Marisa work too. The point here is to get patchy under 50% hp asap. Put your heavy hitters in the back and when your frontline falls just unleash the nukes.
It's pretty easy to watch your frontline fall to a spell when you don't shield them for a turn, this can be used to set up.
When your first team has had enough I hope you'll have a medicine on reserve to cause poison damage over time.
It takes set up, but you can do this. Don't feel bad about using a heal or two to clear this.

Fuck this tower and all these fairies.

>>35869650
Oh and also sanae is immune to the switch lock for some reason if she's on the front line.
Use that however you want.

>>35869620
Passive damage can never kill so it always stops at 1 HP.

>>35869657
I could be wrong, but I think my Sanae was immune to the skill lock on floor 20 too. Maybe one of her passive that heals debuffs/barrier status can heal the lock?

>>35869620
>>35869650
Well I won but unfortunately I had to use a 5 crystal full heal to seal the deal. Thanks for the advice.

>>35870029
>I had to use a 5 crystal full heal to seal the deal
You know you would've gotten a free full heal at reset, right? With two hours to finish up the fight? Just checking.

Blessed be Byakuren's three Star break on her focus shot. I kind of wish she wasn't so bad, I could have MLB her then and used her as a replacement tank for Reimu.
I'm completely out of Star, Patchouli is down at 200k, not sure if the stall squad can take bothher and Koa. I think I'm just going to throw every spell card in the world at her.

That daily arena is coming up for jap.

They must have planned something bigger for jap because there is no new character banner listed in the maintenance announcement. Better be prepared for them to suddenly drop Loli Yukari. They are also bringing back super dolls to buy into the store. The signs are all there. My third eye is open to the truth.

>>35870193
Stalling there is pretty scary for me since both Reimu & Yukari are losing barriers every turn, but once Patche was out of the picture it was smooth sailing.
If you're using poison/burn it'll take like 4-5 turns to burn through that health assuming you keep every stack up through spellcards. I think I was chewing through like 50k a turn, it's been a while so I forgot.
Once you've gone through that you should be able to stabilise.

>>35816520
Thanks for your cheers, I just made it to the top!
All my <100 lvl units teamed up to chip the last hitpoints of Patchouli. Alice did a lot of damage if you count the atk buffs she gave everyone and the def debuffs she has on her spellcards. Then the stall team came in to set up Mokou's LW and murder Koakuma.

>>35870259
Whoever it is, they'll probably announce it on stream with ZUN tomorrow. My third eye tells me that he's going to design some LW-specific touhous.

>>35870193
>I kind of wish she wasn't so bad
I know what you mean, but at the same time she's been my tower MVP, since she can stall any non-boss enemy without any support. Even Reimu needs to eventually retreat and get heals, Byakuren can just tackle all day long.

>>35868466
Wow! Love the work, anon! hope you continue working on it!!

>>35870046
That's five cubes for a night without headache

>>35869657
>>35869839
She's not. However she has a passive Dispel with a 25% chance of kicking in at the start of every turn.
Restore=Add: Restores one layer of barrier
Recovery=Heal: Removes barrier status
Dispel: Removes status, Stats Debuff, and sometimes Barrier Status

There's also reincarnation incoming for Reisen, Sakuya, Kasen and Youmu next. Youmu and Kasen's skins will be released later. Get ready for maid and bunny wedding skins.

Bros... I want to roll... I've saved up 2300+ cubes...

Well my recent investigations have come to the conclusion that Star Sapphire is the Mape Raider. Every attack she has carries the Human-Killer property. She carries the Star element on every attack. Both her Spell Cards buff her accuracy.
The only things that could make her better was if the Heavy bullet typing wasn't on her Focus shot but on one of her Spell Cards so that Scarlet Win, White Win could be slotted for 3 turn 20% damage reduction and if her 1st passive lowered Slash DMG on proc

I roll every time I gather 50 cubes!

>>35873024
This guy has a huge cock. I should know, we can sense our own.

>>35872075
Exactly the 2 characters that I am not going to reincarnate. I have a ring saved up for Kasen.