/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Damn it I forgot the subject again.

Man I hate prostitutes, seems like my clients for jobs always want to fuck prostitutes and get killed.
>>36457137
Searching elona still pops it up, or at least it did for me.

is it possible to resize the UI? it's kinda small

>>36457277
If you're playing Custom-GX it comes with a new high-DPI scaling feature, but I don't know if that's what you're looking for.

Anon who fixed the item descriptions bug on the CGX github, do I need to wait for a new recompiled release for it to work?

>>36457844
that kinda works, yeah, but as a consequence everything else is super zoomed in, too. I'll mess around with it a bit more

Yacatect was written by a retard. Goddess of wealth, has thousands of famous entrepreneurs and tycoons she could have borrowed from to form a personality, instead she talks like she was written by some ESL with no creativity, and then suddenly she's all kawaii tsun-tsun when she gives you her last gift even though there's already a tsundere goddess. Worst god for this reason.

>>36459261
All the deities are common anime stereotypes. Why all of a sudden do you expect fucking JP Morgan instead of an onee-san?

Martial Arts at high levels is still the strongest melee skill, right?

>>36459313
She doesn't even have an anime stereotype except when she steals Jure's for her final gift message. There is absolutely no character or personality in her text.

Playing the latest CGX. Were killing anteaters always unable to move into melee range? They just stay one square away despite having no ranged moves and won't do anything unless the player is the one moving forward. Looks like an AI issue.

>>36460006
Pretty sure they were always like that

>>36459969
You don't know what an onee-san is?

So what does the training machine actually do? The wiki doesn't really provide any information.

Best order of getting all god rewards?
Played a few characters so far, usually got bored somewhere in the second continent, but always went something like
Yacatect (for that early free platinum, farmed rings/amulets in puppy dungeon or Nefia)
Itzpalt (from all the jewelry farming this was always an instant freebie after Yacatect)
Ehekatl (reasonably early for the improved drops)
Kumiromi (time to farm herbs, and want that plant revive charm)

And that's as far as I got. Then what? Jure or Opatos would be nice for a tanky pet, and thinking of leaving Lulwy and Mani for last, because getting those ranged weapon drops seems like a pain in the ass.

>>36457844
How do I turn it on?

>>36460077
Minor Strength/Con training if I recall

How do memory converters work with regards to skill potential? I used it on one character and it would always shoot the potential up to around 500%. I tried it on a different character and it reduced the potential instead.

Is it tied to learning? The first character was a mage, the second a warrior, so my learning stat here is still very low.

>>36460213
I don't remember which types are best for it, but I think you can buy a slave that comes with a ranged weapon, yoink it, then sell the slave back. Might also work with jewelry.

>>36460513
It's in the settings but you have to set the resolution lower than your native res and then multiply it back up

Is there a way to rest until hp/mana/stamina is full and stop when spotted an enemy?
Holding down numpad 5 means an enemy showing up gets several free turns before I lift my finger.

How do you toggle tweaks in CGX? Specifically I want to enable the pre-1.90 experience rates tweak mentioned in the latest release notes, but I don't see it in the settings or config.txt

>>36471296
make sure you have 2.06fix.2.0 and not weeks old 2.06fix
create a character
press esc -> tweaks -> gameplay tweaks

Items shouldn't drop when you die on random maps in the wilderness, holy fuck

>>36471852
i'm fine with loss but the fame penalty on dying bothers me as it makes the game easier instead of letting me adapt and overcome for maximum dopamine

>>36471885
Item drop is fair when you can get them back, but I was about to turn in that stupid Rachel quest and now I have to hope for this book it arbitrarily decided to delete forever to show up again.

>>36471902
if it's book 4 there's a fixed spawn in imouto mansion
otherwise tough luck

>>36472111
Nah, Book 2.

>>36470106
Shift+R

Is it possible to Gene Engineer Gene Engineer onto pets now? If so, what's the earliest monster I can capture to donate it to my pet?

>>36462574
It's supposed to halve skill potential. However, if your skill level is an odd number, it also adds 500% potential. That's because skill level and skill potential are stored as a single number, with skill potential being a decimal. So let's say you have a cooking level of 7, and a skill potential of 50%. This is stored as cooking = 7.050. The memory converter divides this by 2, becoming 3.525, which translates to a cooking skill level of 3 and a potential of 525%.

>civilian, the werewolf
>ask him if he's a werewolf and accuse him
>nuh uh, you have no proof
Do I have to wait until there's guards nearby or until he kills someone?

>>36473461
In plus? Nurses. In oomsest? You'll need to find prostitute class npcs. IIRC actual prostitutes don't have it, so you'll have to pray to rng and just hunt them down. Mass summoning is probably the easiest way.

>>36473635
You vote on the town boxes for that, you can just try to kill it too

>>36473491
Oh. So it's just a bug. Thanks.

> That's because skill level and skill potential are stored as a single number, with skill potential being a decimal.

So how's that work with fractional skill levels? Like if my cooking is actually 7.134 (185%). Is it stored as 7.134185? Except the math doesn't work out then.

So the god heart evolution for the dog is inferior to the king heart one because of the abilities it gains right?

>>36475388
I oversimplified/misremembered. Technically I think all the skill info is stored without a decimal at all, like 0007134185 and what's important is the oddness of the last digit before the potential section, not the actual skill level like I said before.
You can check the exact variables for yourself in elosnack instead of relying on my shitty memory, but it all comes down to this variable storage system being responsible for the seemingly random +500% potential from converters.
>>36477900
Flame of Rage has shit scaling and having cTemper is usually, but not always, a good thing. I don't think you can definitively say the god heart evolution is inferior. Plus "Siva Inu" is just cute.

So I basically want to make a bunch of npcs with lewd sprites, attacks and dialog.

Is there a translated template for the NPC file I need to use? And one with all the different variants for attack types, abilities, and so on?

I started playing this for the first time recently and it's really fun
I made a fairy wizard

>>36483464
I haven't used custom npcs yet, but I think you can just make a copy of npc_template.txt, then use help_npc.txt and the custom npc wiki article to figure out what changes to make.

>>36487233
good choice.

Are the original tone files of existing characters available somewhere? I wonder if there's some file I have to unpack to access them.

>>36494410
They're hardcoded. You can look at them in the source.

Redpill me on Swimming. Is it literally just free speed or am I missing something? Is there any reason I shouldn't get it?

>>36498493
There's no reason not to pick up every skill in +

>>36498493
Yeah it's just free speed.

>forgot to get gwen's card and figure before completing act 1
IT'S OVER

>>36504789
did you properly murder the king of palmia at least?

I'm playing a fairy mage this run, but I barely fight at all, this playthrough is just letting my pets do all the fighting while I run through harvesting and grabbing items, and focusing on non combat skills. I thought it might be boring but its pretty manageable thanks to Traveling, and watching your army mow down entire dungeons of enemies is a bit of a dopamine rush.

i just wasted all my herbs infusing the same cake like 8 times
bwain damage

>>36506603
Watching a pet with Shadow Step mince everything in the blink of an eye is the best.

Long-time ADOM player here, how similar is Elona to its predecessor?

>>36507320
Only nominally similar in that it shares concepts like herb names, seven league boots, and corruption, plus just the fact that they're both roguelikes. But where ADOM plays like a challenge you're supposed to conquer, Elona is more like a sandbox with a lot of disparate features to explore.

Was on ElonaPlus 2.01 and in act 3, the translation (or lackthereof) was really getting to me, so I stopped until Custom or whatever caught up. Does this Custom GX basically fulfil the same role, and will my character save work on it?

>>36508905
Yes and yes

>>36508910
Very cool, thanks a ton. Can't wait to play again, will have to try it out tomorrow!

>>36508925
Much of the English text is worthless machine translation though.

>>36509008
Actually pretty much everything up until chapter 3 is properly translated, and then the machine translation kicks in.

can you farm secret experiences of kuromi with a fairy ranch?

>>36509161
any chance for someone to do a proper translation?

How many pets do you usually use? I'm only at 4 and it's already kind of annoying to tard wrangle them.

>>36510038
You can set up tag teams so 2 pets take up only 1 tile of space, but yeah, if you have too mamy pets it gets kind of annoying. I currently use 4 main pets and can call out 4 more backup pets if I am fighting a bandit team, which works pretty well. It's still tedious though, 1~3 pets is a lot easier to take care of while still being strong, and the fewer pets you have out the faster they'll level

>>36509893
Custom-GX seems to be going through and properly translating some stuff, but then they also do stuff like this
https://files.catbox.moe/xtvu1b.jpg

>>36510087
that deep stare is appropriate

>>36510038
zero

>>36510464
I can't believe you betrayed your little girl like that.

>>36510496
i have no choice but to kokou

>>36510038
I'm using a harpy, dog, squirrel, fire dragon child, black cat and cthuluhime atm, I'm not having that much trouble, the squirrel dies sometimes. The harpy would die but its evolved and has super regene.

>>36510087
To be fair, she does sound like an obnoxious teenager in the Japanese version.

>>36506728

This is why you don't infuse a cake with your butt, you went blind.

>>36506923

Ranged pets can be pretty lit too once properly geared.

>>36510565
>cthuluhime

Slap on a bunch of weapons, make sure you're playing the GX fork because Ano, and she'll be a walking murderblender.

>>36510087
it was probably between localization and keeping japanese internet slang as is, so it's a valid choice imo

>>36509893
Barring my underwhelming translation abilities, all of the in-game text should have proper translations now (save for anything I might have missed). The story cutscenes are still a work-in-progress, though. And I will say I took some artistic liberties in a few specific cases where I felt they were necessary.

So the town mechanics are going to remain incomplete huh?

>>36519309
Which mechanics do you want, exactly?

>>36519360
I want that town board to be used for something

>>36510087
Very "based", leddit. It seems translating a game properly is just not possible for attentionwhores...

>>36524402
How would you write an obnoxious teenager?

>>36524644
Any way but that.

>>36524644
I don't know if this would be considered ironic or something but I genuinely find Ano's original English text to be far better than that.

>>36510087
It seems like whoever did that went to /vg/, clicked the first discord link he saw and observed how they talked for about 5 minutes and based it off that.

>>36524996
That would be a horrible way to get inspiration from but also funny if checks in.

What the optimal way and what one should do to make every joinable character useful and viable? Including wing snail

Has anyone ever bothered with the Evochat function on pets?

>>36532730
They have.

>>36531859
Don't people use Wing Snail for Shades?

raining down sulfuric acid on the entire map with liquid manipulation is a lot of fun
that's all I had to say

>>36536195
Is it as fun as meteor spam?

>>36536227
never had the occasion to cast meteor so no idea
also, for this run i'm deliberately not learning the casting skill and have to rely on rods, potions and scrolls which is surprisingly fun since your options vary dynamically depending on your inventory and what nefia randomly make you stumble upon

>>36535867
But for battle, as main active pets.

I saw on the wiki that mining is a good way to raise my HP and that I should mine the walls in palmia, but are those walls gonna come back? also I read a book and summoned a drake... how long will it take for the starting town to go back to normal?

>>36540949
The mining levels up constitution and that's part of your total HP, you recieve mining exp depending on the level of the walls, and that's based on the level of the map, towns are around level 20, the walls do recover so don't worry about that.

And for the drake you just have to wait until someone kills it.

>>36540949
iirc only a couple of key locations like the temple of the Gods and story dungeons don't regenerate.
Anything else takes like 3 in-game days or something.

Is the new chat server for Plus still up? Have they gotten moongates working yet?

>5 hands mutant
>brainwashed
>have to reequip all 5 (five) weapons in the right order yet again

Do I really have to drop my entire inventory except the target item before trying to curse something?

>>36548653
Chat server is up. Not very lively however, mostly just people dying and the occasional salt. I'm not sure if there's been any attempt to do moongates.

>>36549091
It's not that hard, just use multi-drop.

>>36536195

It's even more fun when it's a Meshera Gamma pet doing it for you, since the potion they use is paralysis.

>>36548653
Plus won't be uploading moon-gates for crash-related reasons. You'll need to play the omake lines for those, or download the map files locally.

>>36550216
Couldn't we repurpose moongates into something else? Like a random event dungeon with unique rewards and reduce the frequency of them spawning and have death on them work like a hunt quest where you just lose will and charisma.

>>36550792
Sure. Get coding.

When should I start worrying about gear? I'm still super early in the game so I'm just popping shit with magic arrows, but I'm slowly starting to see newer enemies on hunting quests n shit that take more than a few arrows to kill.

>>36550216
>crash-related reasons
That doesn't make any sense at all. If you can use map files, why would you not be able to use moongates?

>>36554882
The local files can cause crashes too, but it's not distributing the crashes to everyone on the moon gate server.

The main problem here is that plus hard-codes it's changes, so you need the exact same version of moongate file as plus version for minimum problems. It's not guaranteed to be a problem of course. Plus can load vanilla maps, and with omake, all it's files are effectively vanilla saves due to how they implemented everything using custom files. So, plus can load those just fine.

You also have to worry about trolls intentionally crashing people, or breaking their games.

It's not that it can't be done, you could add version checks for instance, plus curating the moongates. It's that it'd need more work to do, compared to just bringing up the old chat server.

Man it really sucks this PCC I want to use has tits that are slightly too big and clip through all the clothes.

>>36561188
Clothes are also PCCs and can be edited (or disabled).

>>36563979
Yeah but I'm no spriter, and running around naked looks stupid.

>>36564040
You don't have to draw anything yourself. You could just stretch the clothing PCCs that already exist. Or do an image search for "rpgmaker dress spritesheet" and use someone else's work.

>>36555608
I'd think that newer versions would be able to load older maps without a hitch, although the reverse definitely isn't true. Also, from what I've seen Ano completely gave up on the online features, so even if the Custom-GX dev added some sanity checks or whatever it'd take a miracle for Ano to backport them to Plus.

>>36567342
Who has time for online features when they could be filling their games with piss fetishes?

Are wishes not capped in Custom GX? Just got two in a row.

Also, what should I wish for? Already got Seven league boots.

>>36569247
something funny to give elochat friends a nice giggle

>>36569247
miromi

>>36569247
Wishes aren't capped anywhere. Wishing well wishes just get rarer over time, with each year reducing the rarity.

>>36570103
>Wishing well wishes just get rarer over time
Wrong. The only thing that modifies GDATA_WELL_WISH is having a wish granted by a well. It starts at 0, is incremented by 1 with each wish, and at the start of each year if it was 4 or more it's reduced to 3.
The chance to get the "stroke of good fortune passed by" message instead of a wish is based entirely on GDATA_WELL_WISH. The passage of time cannot make well wishes rarer, and if you've gotten more than three it could actually make them more common.

>>36572084
That's just a long winded way to say they get rarer over time, and less rare each year.

>>36573558
It gets less rare over time and rarer with each well wish granted.

>>36457135
I just started playing the mobile version. Is there a good way to get regular access to food? It feels like I’m constantly out.
Also, what’s the difference between the mobile and PC version? I chose the mobile because I liked the art-style more, but aspects like the gacha kind of skeeve me out.

Has Elochat been resurrected ? I saw a few /jp/sies mentioning it, and I know from a thread a few weeks ago people were working on it

Honestly,mutants should just be changed to get ONLY hands every few levels,saves the hassle of savescumming and absolutely nobody uses any other parts on mutants anyways

>>36576259
I'm guessing the mobile version is a gutted abomination that isn't even remotely like the pc version aside from some references.

>>36576385
yes
you had to reboot the game to refresh messages last month but the latest CGX release fixed that and it works in real time now
it's mostly just people dying in puppy cave however

>>36576570
I get error 6 when I try to run elochat.

>>36576385
Do Elochat work in all variant?

>>36576841
The elochat .exe wasn't redone, you need to use the in-game chat.

>>36577111
Yep, runs in nc at least.

I managed to get a cage match between Lulwy and Ehekatl going at the truce ground, but I have to do a fuckload of save scumming to survive Ehekatl's collateral damage.

>>36580196
Well Ehekatl killed Lulwy then Devastate Lulwy killed Ehekatl, and then they stopped fighting. I wasn't aware enhanced gods were hostile to everything but other hostiles, now my Truce Ground is pretty impossible to use. At least I got two god hearts out of it, and I can reinitialize it if I have to.

>>36576399
My solution is for Gavela's slot cap to be increased based on your mutant's level. That'd give you 100% customization without savescumming or having to do the whole "beat Act 1 at L2" thing.

>>36531859
Can’t you just grind+gene engineer any pet to usability? I brought Isca to act 3 in my first playthrough and she performed reasonably well.

>>36581823
Metals have a tendency to fall behind other pets at higher levels (at least gold and silver bells do) and have a heavy penalty to using AP to increase their Life on top of their already high INI.

>>36582278
I never used bells or any of the insanely high speed pets, but low AP in later acts sounds rough. Though few of the recruitable pets are particularly fast so that shouldn't be an issue for them.

>>36583092
INI issues aren't hard to fix. Just take your pet to the secret unholy temple and sacrifice their power to the all-consuming void threatening to devour reality. Presto: low INI; no more AP problems.

will probably do a more 'scrambly' missingno in the future so its not a static sprite

>>36583790
>secret unholy temple
What's this and where is it?
I'm reluctant to use non-early game pets because it's inefficient to let them kill enemies and generate no AP where others would have.

>>36586455
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/The_Oblivion_Palace

>>36586470
Thanks.

>>36586172

Stupid question, does Elona+ or the other pc versions have IAP's ads, etc.?

>>36593974
of course not, it's completely free and no ads

>>36593400
very spoopy,10/10 i crashed

>>36595311
if something is free then you are the product

>>36600312
>He downloaded Elona+. Yes, even the Custom mod. Commence the operation.

I went to sleep on the world map and woke up and one of my pets spoke to me about our anniversary and one of the options led to the world map getting fucked up and infested with universe invaders.

>>36600312
What? How did you find out that Ano was paid off by the watersports AV illuminati to give a bunch of Japanese and weaboo neckbeards a piss fetish?

>>36600400
>He used Violent Garden? Nerf it

>>36605312
>He didn't use the valentine's chocolate for it's intended purpose ?
>Doomp eet

>>36604605
why is your resolution so fucking big,my character would surely get lost between all that mess

play game
https://unityroom.com/games/elona_sisterclicker

>>36621156
cute

Well I made it to the absolute end of Elona for the first time, using a party of 13 pets. Pretty much just unison impacted my way through all the boss fights, it's a strong playstyle.

Which feats should I be getting first?

>>36629163
Better tax payoff

>>36629163
vampirism can be nice for getting back stamina and healing yourself in long fights, especially early game
knockout is great for capturing enemies, it's a huge chore without that feat
fire breath gives you cone shaped area effect spells, magic spells only have point blank nova-shaped aoe
magic eyes gives you stamina-based spell-like abilities that you can spam if you run out of mana

is this what I think it means?

>>36630602
Sometimes you just know.

anybody have a template of the "body" spritesheet for players? where can I find one?

>>36638156
./graphic/PCCs/pcc_body_*.bmp

>>36638277
i should have mentioned that I need something more akin to pic related, sorry.

What are your favorite creative uses of liquid manipulation?
Also, how do I figure out limitless stamina without farming blue capsules?

>>36639504
cast regeneration and keep the buff running, it restores stamina not just hp

>>36639758
I'm using boatloads of potions of troll blood and not a single spell as a personal challenge. Should be the same exact buff, right?

>>36639758
does that work the same in all versions or is just a + thing?

>>36640190
I don't know, I'm playing E+ 2.06

>>36639504
In newer versions of plus inn's sell cola's that restore sp. Just rush all the inns in a loop buying out their stock. It's not as strong as blue capsules,s but works just fine.

>>36639504
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Potions#High_potion_of_soma

>>36621156
Where did you find this, anon?

>>36640878
Some jap artist on twitter

If I lose my deck and find another one later, will it still have all the cards?

>>36642755
Yes, you can also pass on your deck to your next character and it'll have all the cards. I think the witch only accepts that quest up to 500 cards though.

>>36580241
How did you get them to start fighting?

>>36647611
Fed them alcohol till they picked a fight with eachother.

>>36457135
Name field you absolute moron.

How does the DESTINY mechanic work, exactly?

Also, same question about the oracle scrolls. I remember using them years ago but now I have no clue

>>36651255
When destiny is full, go into a random dungeon and look for the destiny text disappear when you enter a level. That level will have 3 godly items somewhere on the ground.

To fill it up, you need to sleep 3 times, gain a certain amount of experience in all skill categories (magic, crafting, combat, etc),. and kill a random dungeon (Nefia) boss. Each of these actions will give you one letter. If you only miss the last letter, most likely you miss the random boss kill.
You can get the boss kill in the same dungeon where you got the godly items, so usually you only need to do one dungeon per destiny.

>>36651255
You usually hoard oracle scrolls because they are somewhat common and have high value, then trade them to adventurers for items (since you can only barter for items, not cash).

I drank a molotov, died in a shop, and when I went to pick up what I dropped I got shot by the shopkeeper and died again.
I really do love this game.

Does spell power affect rod damage?

how do I have sex with Shena?

>>36665566
Use the Squeeze special action on her while sleepy and standing on a tile containing a sufficiently large bed (luxury bed, double bed, king's bed, or happy bed).

>>36664159
Sorta. In that the effect of the rod is based on the rod's spell power. Your actualy spells don't matter however.

Unless you mean magic enhance? THen it depends. In the most recent versions of plus it does, but only if you have used a spell on that map previously. It's a bug but not sure what exactly is bugged.

can I recruit random townspeople? or does it specifically have to be randomly generated monsters and adventurers?

>>36670627
If they don't have <names> you can dominate them or catch them in monster balls.

>>36670627
You can recruit anyone, even gods (with reduced stats) with an astral light pen

>>36665566
If you don’t want to lose 20 karma then make sure she likes you. You can buy gifts at general stores and give them to her.

Is the weight PV bonus thing that significant? I'd like my melee pet to have healing spells so I can do less babysitting but these will have a decent chance of failing if I give it heavy armor instead of the same equipment but smithed to weigh under 15s.

>>36681321
I think it's a maximum of like +40

>>36681356
Thanks.

>>36681321
>>36681356
+1 per 5s up to +40 per piece. For 10 pieces that's +400.

Nice, but not super amazing or anything.

>>36681321
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Spells/Technical#NPC_Casting_Chance
>If the caster is not riding anything they will always have a 95% casting chance.

>>36682336
So most casting chance modifiers don't apply to NPCs. Thanks. You never seem to stop learning with this game.

How do I improve my chances of stealing a Barbecue set from a party?
I usually wall myself near it and always get caught.
Should
>wall 5 tiles around it
>teleport everyone who is inside
>steal
increase my chances?

>>36682456
Yeah.

How do I lose some life easily? I want to handicap myself.

>>36684350
Buy and reset limbs.

>>36684350
There is a feat for that in oomsestepnc.

>>36687726
How long can we go with these acronyms?

If I have a melee weapon with +critical chance, does it affect my ranged weapon as well?

>>36694769
95% sure it only affects the weapon in question.

how am I supposed progress onto harder content? I'm level 33 and made a decent chunk of money after doing a shitton of farming, harvesting, and breeding, but I can't really find much in terms of good gear. Should I pump ranks into a shopkeeper or just walk around in the overworld till I'm able to luckshit a merchant with a good gun/bullet?

>>36701295
What branch are you playing?
Ano's game showers you in godlies due to the DESTINY mechanic. Artifacts are also fairly easy to get at this point: static ones like Vesda's gauntlet, other static dungeon rewards or the rare drops on specific enemies that you can just get through breeding since you're already used to that, or even just checking the inventories of adventurers who sometimes have ridiculous gear like Assault Gold. Pets with tailoring/carpentry/jeweler also help.
You really shouldn't have any trouble if playing Plus. But regardless of the branch, I'd recommend enjoying the struggle and taking that as an opportunity to get that dopamine hit as you overcome harder content.

>>36701609
I'm playing custom-gx and while yeah I'm seeing godly stuff, it's like all bamboo and cloth shit. am I supposed to be proccing DESTINY in higher level dungeons even if I don't feel confident enough to clear them? and yeah it's really fun since I'm playing this pretty blind, but I'm definitely feeling a bit of a plateau in terms of power. and also by breeding I meant, "I saw a wing snail in a quest and saw he had a giant breeding power so I'm just old yellering shades for their drops"

>>36701609
>Pets with tailoring/carpentry/jeweler also help.

How do they help, exactly?
I've been playing this game for years and honestly I've never gone too deep into the mechanics of it.
I'm playing CustomGX right now

>>36702526
They'll make miracle or better equipment for you if you go to sleep at night and wake up before noon.

>>36701295
Level is less important than keeping stat potentials up. If you don't have a way to get picnic baskets or potential potions, work on that before anything else.
What fixedarts do you have? Have you gotten all the god rewards? Have you tried using equip making?
I'm going to hazard a guess and say that your best option for improving your combat ability would probably be to go for a living weapon and give it 100% Magic damage. There are plenty of viable approaches out there, but "weapon with a ton of Magic damage" is easy to understand and guaranteed to be effective.

>>36703623
I'll be wholly honest I don't really know what any of that stuff is outside of knowing more potential = better. I'm playing almost totally blind outside of the starting guide in the OP. I don't think I've ever seen living weapons yet, and I'm just occasionally dumping corpses and rings/amulets since the first god I found was the goddess of wealth (which was cool because my character's background including loving money)

>>36704107
Fun decreases with mastery in my experience so it's probably better to keep playing that way.

>>36704107
You really need a pot for fusion if you don't already have one. That's how you craft picnic baskets and apply the (Herb) tag to food, among other things. Picnic baskets restore all your stat potentials, and herbed food significantly increases all your stats.
Equip Make consumes a piece of equipment and creates a few randarts of that equipment type. You could use it to try to obtain a living weapon, among other things.
If you have 4025 Faith, you can pray to receive an artifact weapon with fixed effects. Yacatect would give you the <Kaneituuhou>, a throwing weapon that lets you see invisible enemies. Other fixedarts can be bought from Miral and Garok's Workshop, south of Noyel, in exchange for the small medals found in towns.

>>36701703
You can change an items material. For most of them it only requires a scroll, but for {} gear you'll need a mat kit.

Superior scrolls are the best.

Sometimes the DESTINY thing triggers but there are no Godly items on the floor. Is the mechanic buggy or am I fucking up somewhere?

Anyone know where the tracks mcHome0, mcZangyou, and mcMelan play? I'm double checking the Granblue Fantasy music pack to update it for CustomGX, but don't know enough about HSP to dive into the code.

>>36705872
They can spawn inside walls. Use Houzana to make sure.

Is there a way to get pets HP to show up on your hud outside of the stethoscope?

>>36704326
>You really need a pot for fusion
ah, yeah I have one of those and I've been making and selling tea and alcohol, as well as combining ores to make gemstones. I'll start crafting baskets and herbing food up.

>>36707905
mcHome0: plays in your home
mcHome: plays in a shelter (formerly played in your home)

Not sure on the others. I found code suggesting that mcMelan has something to do with the Dock:
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/blob/f08ccd01b7260a4311d50fa2a7b399fdd00e9a0b/2.05-custom-gx/sound.hsp#L836
But I haven't heard anything about the Dock getting additional levels, and I can't find the other one at all. It might be buried somewhere, since GitHub's search barely works.

>>36708180
Holy shit. I was mining before asking here but gave up. Now came back again and the items were on the top fucking corner.

>>36707905
mcMelan and mcZangyou are used in that retarded act 3 quest where you have to to get 3 tasks done a bunch of times by following a bunch of convoluted secret rules. mcMelan is the default BGM and mcZangyou seems to be used when you talk to the robot between midnight and 6am.

Also melan is probably short for melancholy and zangyou (残業) means overtime.

>>36709515
>>36712738
>>36712804
Thanks a lot anons. Once I double check I didn't fuck anything up, I'll post the link.

>>36712738
Actually, do you happen to know the name of that quest? I'm testing this out on an act 3 character and just want to make sure the songs fit in context.

dunno whether to laugh or admire his persistence

Leyra please.

>>36718637
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)#2.02:_detailed_changelog
>[New Act III sub quest]
>Talk to Garziem in Albedrion to move to another floor of the map. This new floor[, like towns,] gets regenerated once every few days.
>This quest was made to resemble those retro puzzle games where conditions are unclear and hard to grasp.

Best place for your house?

>>36722171
I just put it above palmia for easy tax payment

>>36722189
Tax box in your house right next to your mail box is even easier.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/4g99zqzkpegrmp4/Granblue_Fantasy_Music_Pack.zip/file
Here's the updated Granblue Fantasy music pack for Elona+ 2.02+ (version that added Mission from Garziem quest). I uploaded it in a past thread, but this version fixes some typos from the original pack and adds appropriate songs for 3 new tracks. Let me know if you find any issues.
I also added a song guide for where tracks play. A lot of info is missing which I'm in the process of filling out.
>>36719921
That really helped, many thanks anon.

>>36722479
I don't feel like wasting 20 small medals early game, and getting the money for a small castle is way easier early game.

>>36722171
probably somewhere in the act three area, theres only two return spots and they're on opposite sides of the map.

Does anyone have an idea to fix this visual bug?
Miral and Garok's,
Noyel,
and Little Sister's Mansion respectively.

Best use of AP? I know I should get speed but also beware of pumping speed.

I've used the Beautify pack for 2.06, what are the purple tabs suppose to be that I've overwritten?

>>36724227
These green arrows.

Come here often?

Progression in Custom-GX still feels too fast after reverting the experience formula and disabling study days compared to 1.90.4. Is there a tweak missing or am I just imagining things?

>>36725666
I think it's related to platinum costs for raising skill potentials. Also, skill potentials never seem to plummet when spending skill points. Maybe it's not just that though.

>>36722171
There are trade offs pretty much anywhere. Personally I like Yowyn in early and mid game for farming. Though now I'm thinking of moving to Noyel since returning to Lesimas and escaping out gives pretty good access to multiple towns.

>>36725779
As long as you don't burn through your supply of escape scrolls. You can't craft them, you know.

>>36727872
Return is a spell.

>>36729723
Escape is only a scroll as far as I know. But I also get 1-3 every time I clear a nefia so I'm not worried about it.

>>36729814
You're right that scape is a scroll, but return is both a scroll and a spell, so it's not really that hard to get.

I've been thinking about making new character. How do throwing weapons scale while in melee slot?

>>36729723
Return is a spell that puts you at DL45 in Lesimas when you warp there. Escape is NOT a spell. You going to go through 45 floors each time you want to fast travel to Vernis?

>>36457135
how2chat

Newfag and first time playing. I can't believe my Little girl died to a fucking goblin

>>36651295
A stack of expensive cooked food also works for bartering since the only thing that matters is the total value of the stack and a big stack of high-rank cooked food is relatively easy to get (once you ground your Cooking that high) compared to getting more oracle scrolls.

>>36724123
Speed and its potential can be gained with herbed food and picnic baskets respectively. Get the feats and special actions you (or your pet) want and then pump Life since being harder to kill is never a bad thing.

>>36731800
Badly. Even a grenade will do much less damage in a hand slot than your shoot slot. If you put throwing weapons in a hand slot it's only worthwhile if they have passives you want to use (such as the Fried Prawn's extra ranged attack chance).

>>36731800
The dice is cut in half. Once you get enough static damage (+ x) that the dice doesn't matter, then it's not a problem. But early game it'll be pretty noticeable. Later on a shurikan turned into a rock is pretty strong for melee, though you'll need vorpal to really make the build work.

how long does it take to fully swap out servants for hire? I want a female bartender for my house but I keep seeing the same male bartender.

>>36738095
What about transforming them? Something like living shurikens transformed into rocks. I was thinking about playing it as mutant with like 6-8 hands.

>>36734141
this. both return and escape in tandem are great timesavers, such as when farming leold's kill monster at least X level quest for quick and easy music tickets.

I don't get why + get's so much shit for the piss stuff when OO has fucking vore in it.

>>36749718
How many people in the thread play OO?

>>36749771
Can't argue with that

File for Elosnack?

>>36749718
It originally started as jokes when people were pissed at ano nerfing everything. A lot of those old timers don't really care these days, but a few people latched onto the meme with everything they have.
They'll be meming about it till the day they die.

>>36751878
Actually it's because Ano has a horrible attitude.

>>36749718
I've never played with pissing mechanics on but from what I've read it's almost obligatory to piss if you want to keep drinking.

>>36753543
It depends. You can just pour potions on yourself with (t). So the only real reasons you'd want to drink a bunch are to roleplay getting drunk or to farm wishes at wells.

>>36751878
Isn't Ano's game too easy with or without the nerfs anyway? I'm more upset at him giving you high amounts of gear, levels and skills just to make sure you get to see his late game content as soon as possible.

>>36751878
>It originally started as jokes
Yeah, sure. Now tell us the one where your uncle walked backwards out of the gas chamber.

palace is too big and makes for an extremely inefficient home help

>>36755128
Can't you just buy an "inferior" house?

>>36755211
sure but right now it's buyer's remorse

There has to be more tone files than the ones on the pastebin and wiki. Anyone got some obscure ones lying around or maybe even wrote a few?
I'd share mine, but they need some revisions.

Anyone know why custom music fails on one hard drive vs another?
I'm not placing it in program files or anything in either one.

>>36761623
Convert all the .mid files to .mp3, midis are buggy shit. You'd have to change all the .mid to .mp3 in user/music/musiclist.txt too.

>>36761901
Everything was already mp3, and I stripped tags too during testing.
At the end of the day it isn't a huge issue if the game is on D: or E: I guess, I just feel like its a symptom a problem that hasn't hit me yet.

>>36761901
>Convert all the .mid files to .mp3, midis are buggy shit.
Is that why music sometimes fails to load for me?

>>36762350
I'm pretty certain yes, it happened to me too until I converted them.

>>36741861

Doesn't matter, the nerf to damage is never worth it.

>>36739270

And if you're using vorpal/piercing attacks in melee range you may as well just use proper melee weapons.

>>36764012
Well, no, min-maxed cut rock is the best you can do if you have capped vorpal. Even if you go maxed living weapon, you'll just end up with panty->rock for the higher mind damage.

It's just no one wants to cap vorpal so MA and lightsabre are at the top.

Anything happened to the server?
Elochat isn't working for me.

>>36764915
Don't know if you're still having issues but seems like it's fine to me

>>36764012
it halves the dice but most of your damage isn't coming from the dice

>>36752867
What do you mean?

>>36755230
Just build a cozy little shack bear the entrance and enjoy having an enormous backyard.

Newfag here, My character seems to lack the cooking skill... is that permanent or ca I learn it, if yes where?

>>36769474
You can learn it, maybe the trainer in Yowin or Lumiest teaches that.

You also have the option to learn any skill later on when you start to find blessed scrolls of gain attribute, or blessing them yourself mixing (B) them with blessed bottles of water.

>>36769474
The trainer in Vernis (and 2 other towns, can't remember which) teaches cooking. If you still have skill tickets I'd recommend using them since Plat is better saved for skill training.
You could also do >>36769953, but attribute scrolls are useful for artifact fusion and/or teaching pets.

>>36770033
>If you still have skill tickets I'd recommend using them since Plat is better saved for skill training.
I'd personally recommend using plat until the cost gets higher since you save plat in the long run, though using skill tickets first gets you the skills earlier.

>>36770424
break even point is around 10 plat, after that you're just wasting time for very minimal plat savings

>>36770456
If you're going to try and learn all the skills the best savings are from getting to 15 plat for a new skill and then spamming all your tickets, iirc that should get you all of them. Using tickets before 15 just means you're paying more for new skills later.

>>36771615
Saving to 15 plat instead of switching to tickets at 10 means you're spending an extra 45 or so plat upfront to save less than 10 down the line.
When making plat becomes easier as you get stronger and when there's only so many skills you actually need quickly anyway.

>>36771662
If you only need a few quick skills, then there's no reason to rush spending skill tickets.

>>36771712
yes there is, it means you can use that plat for training and you can make up the difference later on when you're set up to take on all quest types and you've got panic and challenge quests open to you

this is a debate that's been done to death even though one side is clearly worse and the most effective powergaming strats have always gravitated towards using the tickets early
but hey if you want to spend an extra 2 hours grinding plat now so you can save a few minutes grinding plat in the future then be my guest
OCD is just like that I suppose

I've never delved into Gene engineering nor heirs or whatever. How does that work? I feel like I'm missing out in a lot of stuff.

I just like to collect a fat stack of skill tickets to display proudly in my farm.

>>36772113
Gene Engineering gives your pet skills, which is incredibly important. It can also give your pet limbs without paying Life, although you can't pick the limb type and I'm not sure every type is available.
Making a gene file lets future characters start with extra gold, platinum, and skill points, and most of the items that were in your inventory can be retrieved via heir chest.

Why do DESTINY drops spawn in walls aaaaaaa

>>36769953
>>36770033
Thanks guys!

>>36777835

What pets are you using? Anything other than the typical little girl, bell, etc?

>>36786669
I like harpies.

>>36786669
Butler, bear, dog, harpy, fire dragon child, squirrel, cthulhime, fox brother, dog sister, dark angel, cute fairy, black cat, exile, and they're all fully evolved.

>>36786728
How long did that take you and how did you manage that many? For me 4 is when it starts getting too much to micromanage.

>>36786845
Travelling skill makes all things possible, its not that hard to train them up. A kind of useless tip I can give is use the lesimas/rehmido fragment as soon as you get it, before you leave the dungeon, because a timeskip happens that lets you use it again immediately, otherwise the cooldown is 450 hours or something for the rehmido fragment.

How come you can't mark tiles or walls, just NPCs?

Is a gene worth it if you want to roll a new file? Does it delete your old one?

>>36786937
Gene is good if you get bored of the current character, since the heir chest lets you take the stuff your old gene had.

>>36786937
Just think of it as a big jumpstart for a new character since you can inherit their non-precious items. Your old one doesn't get deleted.

>>36786669
3 last dancers

>>36774822
Gene Engineering also lets you increase a low-level pet's level by fusing in high-level fodder.

It's been a long while since I last played this. Should I just stick with regular elona+ or set up CGX? I think the last I played was like 1.7 something.

>>36786669
Apprentice angel, nymph and H Sister for me.
Ouroboros seems absurdly good but I'm not sure if I want to overoptimize pet choices, because people looking to do that might as well just catch a bell and call it a day.

Best items for a martial arts/unarmed build?
I'll be trying it on my next gene but I want to get a few items to make it easier on the start.
I reckon Cestus of Meteors and Twin Edge are great but what other items are good?
Also, what else should I keep in mind for such a build?

>>36793484
I would recommend CGX unless you really want to play Ano's true vision.

Newfag, any guides to how to change gfx?

>>36793937
You could just get a Harpy, its final evolution has super regene, and then you don't have to use unevolvable pleb trash.

>>36794079
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Marriage_and_Genes#Genes
>Note that precious items, kitty banks, Figurines, cards, deeds, and Small Medals can't be inherited.

>>36794435
Here, found one.
http://zatugaku1128.com/post-2969/

Is there a way to speed up what the living weapons elemental enchantment cycles to or am I stuck waiting for 5 months to get the one I want?

>>36797494
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Living_weapon#1.67_and_Later
>What changes your options are a new month (forward one cycle per category according to the below list) and the enchantment level of the equipment (forward one cycle per category each +1, back one cycle per -1 by acid or fire).

>>36797765
Oh, I guess I should change my alias to massive retard. Thanks anon.

How much of a handicap is bloodsucking equipment? I sort of want some for chuuni reasons.

>living weapon 2 stronk to lower stats via cursed weapons enhancement
>can't acid it because its material
Send help

>>36798742
IIRC cursed acidproof liquid can damage acidproof equipment.

>>36795309
Goddamn maybe I should read before I ask stuff, thanks man.
What attributes should I be looking for items in a full martial arts build? Also what's the best class for such a build?

>>36798840
any reliable way to curse things?

>>36799099
Cursed water. If you don't have water, you can try dropping everything on your inventory save for the weapon, moving to an empty space, and using curse scrolls. You'll need a lot of them if you have the exorcist feat.

>>36798742
why would you want to lower your weapons stats?

>>36798624
If memory serves, the damage isn't much, and actually helps you train Healing. The real problem is that it constantly interrupts you, so you'll end up having to manually unequip/reequip it to do things.