/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>36636225
I only deeply got into touhou at about December (just before it coincidentally got really popular with twitter) even though I've known about it since the McDonalds Insanity days. I've deeply regretted having put off getting into Touhou for so long, it's so amazing and every girl is so fun and interesting. I'm bad at the games but I've beaten a few. The past few months of constantly discovering and finding new things is incredible. I can't even fathom getting bored of it, but it might just be because I'm new.

>>36636225
knew touhou for about 3 years now, well not really. i only knew like two characters and i only listened to the songs. got into touhou earlier this year with my main focus on the games and i feel like it will be another 3 years until i get bored of the games, there's just too much content

>>36636225
>I'm a shameless secondary
>I'm just indifferent to it now.
You were always indifferent to it, secondary filth.

>>36637285
Before I got into Touhou, I despised it because Touhou fans were borderline autistic back on ye-old /a/. We didn't have captchas back then so namefags like AoRF could use imagedump scripts to hijack/derail threads using 2hu images. I finally gave in and played the game and I was shocked by how shitty the art style and story was. I would then argue that ZUN is a hack writer and that the series is only popular due to fan contributions. I would later realize the appeal of ZUN's art style. And I also ended up liking ZUN as a writer after reading Yukari Yakumo's power in PMiSS.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Memento_in_Strict_Sense/Yukari_Yakumo

It is virtually impossible to create a character with a unique power seeing how we've been through over 8 decades of super hero comics/shonen fight anime. Any power you can think of has already been done, so just the fact that ZUN was able to invent a new power (boundary manipulation) made me respect him as a writer. And her boundary manipulation isn't limited to just physical things. Like, she can in theory manipulate the boundary between winning and losing a fight. Or the boundary between life and death. Or imaginary vs actual. A liberal interpretation of her ability could make her one of the strongest characters in the history of storytelling, but ZUN shits on powerlevel fags like me and only gives her a weaker interpretation of her PMiSS abilities.

But you're right, I am a shameless secondary fan. Again, I like ZUN, but I still think the fans are the main reason why Touhou took off. And now that 2hu no longer dominates the doujinshi circles, there's not enough fan content to keep me interested.

>>36636225
I don't think I've cared all that much about touhou since around 2012.
The only really lasting legacy touhou has given me is playing shmups

>>36637474
>I don't think I've cared all that much about touhou since around 2012
It looks like Touhou reached peak popularity around 2013 and went dramatically downhill from there. I wonder what happened in May 2021 that gave it a spike in popularity. I haven't followed Touhou since 2013.

>>36637526
fumo got really big and lostword got its global release in may, that’s my best explanation

>>36636225
Losing interest in 2hu would be like losing interest in art. I can't lose interest in such a broad category.

I will be into Touhou until the day I get Reimu pregnant
From then on I'll focus 100% of my attention into my beautiful red shrine maiden and our soon-to-be son

I was a fan of Touhou ever since I watched the Ronald McDonald video. It was an amazing video at the time and it piqued my interest into where the music came from.

>>36638167
It seems like most of the people in this thread are relatively new to 2hu. I also thought I would be into 2hu forever for the first 10 years, but eventually it just got old.

>>36638230
>until the day I get Reimu pregnant
A lot of people are only into 2hu due to the pretty girls. Well now there's a thing called vtubers that gives horny males direct and interactive access to a boatload of pretty girls. 2hu will never be able to compete in that field any more. And now there are fandoms like Kantai Collection that dominate the doujin circles. I'm just playing devil's advocate and hope none of what I'm saying is true.

>>36638356
>2hu will never be able to compete in that field any more. And now there are fandoms like Kantai Collection that dominate the doujin circles. I'm just playing devil's advocate and hope none of what I'm saying is true.
Touhou has long outlived all the self-proclaimed "Touhou Killers" and will continue to do so due to its nature. As long as ZUN doesn't fuck up the rights to Touhou on his death (should it ever comes maybe they'll unlock cyborg stuff in a few years) Touhou will endure.

>>36638379
Imagine 5 years from now ZUN gives rights to use his IP to EA and now we have STG games with purchasable shot types and full of microtransactions.

>>36638395
>with purchasable shot types and full of microtransactions

ZUN is already moving in the direction of DLC. I haven't played the latest game, but doesn't Unconnected Marketeers allow players to trade points for items after each stage. In the next 2hu game that will become an offical 2hu store where players will be able to buy extra lives. ZUN just lacks the networking skills to setup an online shop like that. Trust me, that's where the series is going.

I stopped at mountain of faith. There are just too many 2hu

>>36638471
what, you really stopped right before the peak of touhou?

>>36638456
>In the next 2hu game that will become an offical 2hu store where players will be able to buy extra lives
he may as well start selling credits

I never cared about Touhou and I still don't

>>36638471
I stopped at Touhou 12.8 Fairy Wars. But the last Touhou game I completed was UFO. I remember when a new fan only had to worry about playing EoSD, PCB, and IN. The amount of games a new fan would have to play nowadays is overwhelming.

>>36638456
ZUN wants one of his characters to appear in Super Smash Ultimate as part of DLC

>>36636225
I didn't get into Touhou until 2019. I don't think I'll lose interest in it anytime soon

OP here, threads like this >>36577050 have been being made on 4chan since 2005 on old /a/ long before /jp/ even existed. I'm willing to bet with the same text and character. Whenever I would see imagedump threads on /jp/ I wondered to myself, are these aspies really discussing the same topics for 16 years. But then I realized that there are new guys like this >>36636355. So threads like that might seem new and entertaining for him, but to me it comes off as borderline madness. There's only so many 2hu imagedump threads you can watch before you lose your mind. If there's really an oldfag who is still posting in Touhou threads like that I would want to know. I would also like to know if they're mentally stable.

>>36636225
Started secondary back in about 06, then I played the games religiously for a long time.
My obsession died down but I still get around to it every new release.
Why am I still here?
Touhou kept me sane over the years. I was in a dark place when I found it and things just kept getting worse. It's a little better now... I guess.
Thanks Zun.

Been at it since somewhere in the early 10s when I found it somewhere in a list of best Videogame OSTs, downloaded some games, played them, was having great fun despite the difficulty, I was also just happy my shitty laptop from way back could run these. Since then they've always been there, added to my repertoire of Game Series that I can always fall back to. I don't get into a lot of shit but when I do I can pretty much play it forever. If i'm lazy, I have a lot I can read, or listen to, or maybe interact with /jp/ if i'm feeling like not thinking much beyond the mood, whether it's horny or cute or whatever else.

>>36638803
>back in about 06,
You're old as fuck. I find it pathetic that you are still posting on 4chan after all of these years. I recommend growing out of Touhou and finding a more social hobby. I'm just on 4chan out of pure coincidence but I only post once in a blue moon.

>I still get around to it every new release.
I tried to stay active on the games as well but after Mountain of Faith ZUN kept making games ending in decimals like 10.5, 12.3, 12.5, and etc.... It was too much effort to keep up with. And it seemed like the new characters ZUN made had less and less personality with each release. So fans had to more or less give them fanon personas to make them compelling.


>>36638827
Most of my critique of the new 2hu games is subjective, but in terms of the new music of games 11-18, they are objectively inferior to 6-10. This isn't nostalgia goggles, it's fact.

>>36638908
Please leave /jp/ and do not return, thank you.

>>36638916
>Please leave /jp/ and do not return, thank you.
You don't have to worry about me leaving. I am no longer a /jp/er or 4chan user in general. I used to tell people who didn't fit the mold to leave as well, but I have embraced normalfaggotry and thus no longer belong here. I will take your advice and leave. It just bothers me to here of oldfags like >>36638803 who haven't evolved or changed. They're still browsing websites like /jp/ and being NEET/hikomoris.

>>36638952
You sound like a larping olfag

>>36638908
>>36638952
No, bad.
That's a lot of strong assuming. My only issue is depression but thanks for trying to shit on me in a thread about a series we all enjoy.

>>36638969
Are you really 06 though? Did you browse 4chan on old /a/? It's rare to see someone like that in the wild.

>>36638979
Someone born in 1996 would've been 10 years old in 2006 (25 now). That's really not that wild to have been on these sites or into 2hu (Though it's before touhou really got big in the west, I would think, I don't know much about what the early days were like). Still completely plausible.

>>36638979
Yes. The OP post was literally talking about 05.
Granted I was underaged then but I'm still here by not committing die and changing myself a bit.
Touhou is a fun game.

>>36638952
Go back to work and fill my fridge, wageslave.

>>36638998
I don't want to get too off topic and meta, but it's good to know there's still old school people here. And when I said old, I just meant oldfag; I wasn't talking about age. I feel like all of the smart people left this place once captchas was imposed because no smart person is going to waste their time solving 60 captchas every day just to communicate (and only a useful idiot would buy 4chan pass). I might still be a fan of Touhou if I had a place and community to discuss it. I wonder if there's any good communities out there. I'll never post on a traditional forum, so that only leaves discord/reddit but I've only heard bad things about those places. I wonder where all of the smart old /a/ and /jp/ers went. No offense to you, but they certainly couldn't have stayed here.

>>36636225
Found Touhou around 2010, followed it fairly intensely for 4 or 5 years despite never liking SHMUPs too much in the first place, slowly lost interest because the new games weren't as appealing to me and I ceased to identify at all with the community.

>>36639055
>Go back to work and fill my fridge, wageslave.
I don't do the wage slave stuff, I'm actually an indie game dev. I've actually coded a revolutionary Touhou game that is 90% complete, but I haven't worked on it in 2 years due to the fading popularity of the fandom. I sometimes browse /jp/ and look at threads like this to measure the general zeitgeist and health of the community to see if it's worth finishing said game.

>>36639102
Hmmm.. I thought you were going to leave. Is your "normal" life this boring that you have to insult other anons? Go get my lazy NEET ass another burger, wagie.

>>36638997
>I don't know much about what the early days were like
Well back then it was still niche so you would have to be pursuing your weeb interests to find it. For me I discovered touhou right on /b/ and /f/.
Over on youtube the biggest hits were ronald mcdonald mashups. U.N. Owen was mislabeled as the Death Waltz.
Memes consisted of tsurupettan, Cirno is baka, Yukari is old.
>>36639064
>all of the smart people left this place
Fuck you think I stayed? I'm a straight up dumbass.
There is no secret /jp/ bunker to my knowledge. We're still here and there.
I choose to stay here where it's less "based".
...and I've been using computers since I was 5 man. Just because I came from the 90's it doesn't mean I dropped them and pursued a career in juggling or something, I even have one of those new fangled discord machines that works like skype and msn used to.
I think you should talk about touhou anywhere you want so long as it isn't infested with fumos.

I'm still cool man. Super cool.

>>36639102
>due to the fading popularity
Why do normalfags always care about muh popularity?

>>36636225
i started following touhou since 2009 thanks to this one video i remembered that had the post bayonetta credit scene with bad apple playing over it. Been listening to its music since then, so i'd say the music plays a big part for me staying with the franchise.

>>36639188
They need attention. They always need approval. They follow the herd. They're boring, pathetic slaves.

>>36639154
You're right, I didn't keep my promise of fucking off. Seeing a fellow oldfag >>36638998 compelled me to stay a little longer. I will fuck off now. Does it shock you that I'm admitting I was wrong on the internet and that I'm conceding defeat. This behavior is probably foreign to someone such as yourself who is addicted to imageboards. Trust me, I've been there before. Maybe this video will enlighten you and set you free from this place: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhx6IfKrvEQ

I'm out. I'm going to go engage in bedtime sports with my 3D is pig disgusting gf. Hopefully one day you'll be free from groupthink and circlejerk. Enjoy your captcha chan, with all seriousness, how do you guys do this everyday. I get tired after 10 captchas.

>>36639228
All I need is my waifu, the gym and /jp/. I'm happy with my life and that's the only thing that matters after all. Now fuck off wageslave.
>I'm going to go engage in bedtime sports with my 3D is pig disgusting gf
Pathetic normalfag always having to brag about his boring lifestyle.. sad

>>36638952
hey not everyone in the world can embrace normalfaggotry even if they wanted to
so stop coming here and judging people
if it were not for these places I would have roped a long time ago, my whole life was just pain for as long as I can remember but it made it more bearable and gave me something to enjoy
Touhou was the greatest passion project that came out of otaku culture. People came together to make music, illustrations, videos, animations and all kinds of content all by themselves just for something they loved without there being a profit-seeking outside entity seeking to create some product or some new trend that people will follow.
And that's why I am here to keep it going, because you don't do Touhou because it is the most popular thing, the most profitable thing, the most trendy thing. Our lives are short and fleeting and we can't take our money and popularity to the grave. Just do what you want and live for yourself. When was the last time you spent an entire day only for yourself? This doesn't have to be Touhou, for you it could be anything. But for me it is Touhou and it will be Touhou even if all that's left of Touhou is my memories.

>>36639228
Huh?
I thought he was trying to kick me out of here for being around his age a moment ago.
I think whatever's bothering you is lying in bed, and the difference between us is I'm happily gay.

Touhou is a fun game.

>>36639228
>I'm out
See ya tomorrow, normalfag

>>36639228
despite what you might've heard, it's possible to lead a fairly normal lifestyle while still engaging with imageboards
you can't really find the same kind of discussions you get here anywhere else, and that alone is value enough to keep me around over the years
I have my small, close group of friends to talk shit with but that obviously fulfills a different need and when it comes to touhou they only have a passing experience with the games at best
the most eye-opening experience was sharing some arranges with my then gf and being surprised she enjoyed a few
life is so much more satisfying when you can share something you enjoy with others, I'm forever thankful to FELT and hatsunetsumiko's for letting me enjoy something as important to me as music with another person
does that mean I don't belong here? maybe but noone needs to know, I still have a couple games missing in my chart and it's relaxing giving and receiving advice
take it easy

Why are you idiots feeding the troll? You ruined the thread.

>>36638678
>If there's really an oldfag who is still posting in Touhou threads like that I would want to know. I would also like to know if they're mentally stable.
Define oldfag.

>>36636225
Been a fan since 2013, originally got into it because of the waifu potential, stayed until now because the doujin music scene is still huge and interesting. The story is also neat.

can one of yall niggas shoot some some links to play 2hu. I lost all my shit.

>>36640367
https://nyaa.si/view/1387521
https://pastebin.com/hPmDczz6

>>36640367
what kind of games.
official, fangames, etc.

>>36636225
I've been a fan since ~2007 and I drift in and out of caring about it. I'll get pulled back in and be super into it for months every few years before losing interest and moving on again.

>>36639749
>>36639279
>I thought he was trying to kick me out of here for being around his age a moment ago.
Had to respond to this. My post was misunderstood. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it's odd that someone who has been here since 2006 is still doing mostly the same stuff. I find your lack of evolution to be disturbing. There's nothing wrong with being a hikikomori or shutin, it's just odd that after 15 years you are still mostly the same person you were back then. Back in 2006 I was telling normalfags to fuck off of /a/. And when /jp/ was created I was doing the same on there. I was one of the original guys to argue that 3D women are pig disgusting and that waifus are superior. But look at me now, I'm getting married to a 3D girl and I no longer take pride in whatever 4chan considers to be cool. If I come back here 20 years later I wonder if you guys will be doing the exact same stuff and still having the same conversations about which 2hu you would like to fuck. Again, nothing wrong with that, it just got old to me. But I'll stop derailing the thread now. I doubt I'll be around to respond again. Got to sleep and work.

>>36639228
I discovered that guy years ago.
By the looks of it, he went back to shitposting. No change there.

There's still porn coming out for it.

>>36640367
Just search moriyashrine. All the official games are up there as well as a lot of fan stuff.
>>36640411
>Had to respond to this.
We know.

>>36636225
IN brought me into Touhou and the secondary sources kept me into the series. My interest in the game diminished in tandem with my free time. Generally the doujin scene on this side of the river dried up. I think mobgames, gatcha, Hololive and the likes have taken away interest from doujin games over in nippon. More and more new otaku on both sides are getting in those avenues and what were doujins are no established legacy IPs with an eye for profit and not creativity. Its not looking good.

>>36636225
Only got into it in 2017 once I went into uni having no friends and was lost as to what I actually liked, so when it became clear that I don't like anything anyone else in my life likes, what if I just abandoned social media and platforms/resources entirely to do a little self-reflection on how to be happy alone? That was when I abandoned social mobile apps, never used any centralised streaming platforms, etc (never really did in the first place). What this also meant when finding alternatives was that I'd be bound to stumble across those sites suggesting FOSS alternatives. When going through the categories and eventually coming to the music ones, I was lead to Japanese radio streaming sites and a lot of Touhou songs were showing up, annoyingly so, yet all the songs the stream was playing were catchy. So why not give the franchise my due respect and actually understand it better? Turns out the games (or really the shmup genre) and music was addicting enough to keep me going back and trying to accomplish 1ccs on hard and lunatic to this day (done all the normal 1ccs and extras barring the PC98s still), so it's the kind of franchise where you can always step back and try to achieve something whenever you feel like it given the number of endings possible. New games = new challenge = new addition to the 1cc backlog.

>>36639212
literally everybody who makes games makes games because they want people to play them

>>36640411
There he is again..
>I was one of the original guys to argue that 3D women are pig disgusting and that waifus are superior
Ummm.. because they are?
>Got to sleep and work
Nice. I knew you were going to fill my fridge one day

>>36641758
Yeah but people would still play his shitty game, retard. I still make 2hu music and I still don't care about muh views.

>>36636225
>Why do you still care about Touhou?
Because I like it
>I've always sucked at the games and never really cared for ZUN's canon material
So you never really liked it

I got into touhou when there was a Sticky on /v/ with a free download for the brand new game "Shoot The Bullet" and people were posting pictures of their highest scoring moves.

So installed it and started playing and realized it was fucking hard. Like way too fucking hard. I've been a fan ever since.

>>36636225
It's pretty damn hard yeah, but the main content besides from the game, is from the community itself. Not much that I care, but touhou yuri is nice. Most people got into Touhou just for the pretty girls and porn anyways.

No, but I grew out of /jp/

>>36641758
This.

>>36639188
>Why do normalfags always care about muh popularity?
>>36639212
>They need attention. They always need approval. They follow the herd. They're boring, pathetic slaves.
>>36642885
>Yeah but people would still play his shitty game, retard. I still make 2hu music and I still don't care about muh views.
I can draw, code, and compose music. When you're making music or drawing it's a quick and entertaining experience for the most part. When you're coding an entire game engine by yourself, it takes year(s) of grinding. There's only two incentives that would inspire someone to make a game: profit or attention. No mentally stable person is going to work on a game for 4 years and be fine with nobody seeing it. Please don't speak of things you haven't done yet. Ask any indie dev and they'll tell you the same story. The first 2 years of development are fun, by once you get into year 4 and 5 you start to get tired of the grind. Only a handul of /jp/ indie games got finished. The vast majority of them the devs gave up on.

>>36643398
>When you're making music or drawing it's a quick and entertaining experience
Stopped reading there

>>36643398
making proper music is not easy, anon.

I can't even properly explain why I'm no longer interested in 2hu. I just lost interest in literally everything years ago and it only gets worse over time. I was an extreme waifufag back then, but those feelings disappeared over night.

>>36643428
>>36643467
Don't compare making music to coding a game. This is silly. That's like comparing making a house to making a shed. To be fair, if you use a game engine that can dramatically decrease development time. Protip: there's a reason why the Touhou Music collection torrent is 1.7TB. Yet there's only a handful of good Touhou fan games. Let's just look at /jp/ alone for sample size. How many games have /jp/ers started and gave up on. Hundreds throughout the years. Yet how much music and art has /jp/ churned out, too many to count. Lead programmers get paid thrice as much as composers, designers, and 3D model artist. CS majors make more throughout there life because coding is harder period.

>>36643564
>Don't compare making music to coding a game
Never did so please read my post again. Coding is not easy. Making music/albums is not easy. Period.

>>36643614
Well I'm mostly just responding to >>36642885 who said:
>I still make 2hu music and I still don't care about muh views

I'm sure it's hard for him to make music but it doesn't take him 5 years to do it. If you're going to commit 5 years to anything you can bet your ass you're going to want either views or profit from it. The toxic Touhou fans who shame game devs who want attention/profit is why nobody is making games in the 2hu community any more. Like this anon >>36641253 said we're moving towards social/mobile games with less autistic communities.

>>36636225
>never really cared for ZUN's canon material
Should've say this shit instead of long ass essay.

>>36636225
>touhou fan
didn't know about the fumo craze and mobile games being pushed out

>>36644155
>fumo craze
I think this is a myth. I don't know of any fumo craze. I think it's just buyfags trying to justify their weird hobby.

>>36637526
touhou 18

>>36644321
Recently, I constantly see fumo memes made by westerners on twitter that get tens of thousands of likes. And I only follow Japanese artists there.

>>36636225
Take a break and play something completely different then. It's what I do when I lose interest in any video game series I play. Maybe later you'll regain interest in 2ho, maybe not.
I've always liked this series for the games, lore, and characters.

>>36644321
well the price of fumo will tell you otherwise but welcome to the fumo world
>become fumo

>>36636225
I just got into it half a year ago playing every game on a weekly basis while reading official material, discussing whatever I beat weekly with a friend of mine who got into it earlier than me.
What may help is getting someone into the games and talking about mechanics, lore, fanworks etc.
There's very little that can compare to getting into something like Touhou for the first time but vicariously experiencing it through someone else might be close to that feeling.

>>36642940
people think its cool to say they werent REALLY into touhou like its a ironic interest
i don't know why they come around to flaunt it

>>36643011
>it was fucking hard. Like way too fucking hard. I've been a fan ever since.
That's how they get you.
What got me to start playing was replays of eosd extra. I thought it "looked easy".
It is not easy and that's what makes it fun.
>>36644321
It's a thing. Normalfags and new strand weebs want a slice of the derpy looking plushies they have no clue about.
It was streamers and not the grazing kind.

>>36646218
>What got me to start playing was replays of eosd extra. I thought it "looked easy".
>It is not easy and that's what makes it fun.
funny, EoSD is the Extra I can beat without bombs

>>36636225
Don't know, very long time ago, don't really care about remembering how much of an "oldfag" I may be for stuff
Good music, good remixes coming from them
Touhou have so many good doujin music that it is literally impossible to listen to my entire playlist of it in a full day, so I will always have some entertainment when outside, driving etc
It's got some nice media from its source reading material too, but as a bonafide secondary, I have yet to properly go through the games and literatures
But it is all about the music that keeps me hooked to it, really, when you don't necessarily have an interest in music, its genres and languages and all, you can't go wrong with Touhou stuff if you don't want to be in silence

>>36646635
>so I will always have some entertainment when outside, driving
Ew, I would never get caught dead driving with anime/video game music in my car. /jp/ers and 4channers in general mock normal nerds who don't know how to suppress their nerd powerlevel in public places.

>>36646878
What is dead driving?

>>36646635
Do you seriously drive around in public with cutesy anime music blasting? Have you given up on getting laid? You are a true wizard, I am proud of you.

>>36646878
>>36647083
You guys know earbuds are a thing, right?
And no, my car doesn't have anime stickers or any stickers at all, from the outside I'm just your average normalfag
The worst that can happen is somebody ask what you're listening to/what you like and saying "I like foreign stuff" never failed me, I already grew out of the phase of feeling awkward over this kind of stuff
Though I obviously won't go around exposing powerlevel and stuff, it isn't my style either

>>36647188
It's illegal to have earbuds while driving in some states in the USA.

I'm not reminded why I quit /jp/ and 4chan in the first place. In addition to the groupthink and circlejerk it's just very time consuming in general. I have wedding preparations and work that needs to get done yet I've just wasted my entire morning responding to post on 4chan. The boost in productivity alone is justification for never coming back here. I'm not saying this to bother anyone, just giving life advice.

>>36647537
go fuck your wife instead of blogposting on a touhou thread

>>36647587
imagine not fucking your wife while shitposting. It's like you people can't multitask or something.

>>36647762
she'll think you're cheating if you're looking at pictures of stylized humanoid images

>>36647587
>>36647874
Take your meds

>>36647874
>she'll think you're cheating if you're looking at pictures of stylized humanoid images
I once dated a girl who browsed /jp/ (yet claims she never posted because she felt too antimidated). She would masturbate to loli rape doujins. When I asked her if she's bisexual or if she's self inserting herself as the loli getting raped she said no to both questions. She just got off seeing them get raped I guess.

>>36638979
>>36639064
Not him, but a 04 fag here. We exist. And I wasn't even underage then. Been here practically every day since, much less now, but used to do 18 hours stretches during my deepest neetdom. I could say some cliche "this place has went to shit", but truth is there has never been a better one. Even other chans don't have the right balance of the traffic volume, mixture of people coming here, and work put into keeping it stable and running (as much as (deserved or not) shit is laid down on Hiroshima and jannies). Maybe something else that I can't even describe. But something is always missing in those other places and they feel off. This one is home.

>>36647950
Kill yourself crossie

I don't actually discuss anything here anymore (down to only a few related interests and can't be bothered to engage with the threads) but I always come crawling back here in the end because I just can't be bothered to engage with any community that has persistent identity.

>>36646218
>It's a thing. Normalfags and new strand weebs want a slice of the derpy looking plushies they have no clue about.
They truly ruin everything.

>>36645466
>like its a ironic interest
Pretty much describes a lot of normalfag geek entertainment.

an ironic interest is just an interest you're embarrassed to admit you actually have

>>36636225
Started in 2016 with EoSD, my goal since then has been to 1cc every windows release with every shot and in every difficulty and that is what keeps me coming back to the games every now and then and overall interested in the community, art, music , etc.
Only time can tell what will happen once that goal is finished.

>>36648317
If you're 04 then you're 1 year before me. I consider you oldfags my next of kin; I don't feel like the modern 4channer represents what this website used to be about. /jp/ isn't as bad as other boards and it has always been the closest thing to old /a/. On modern /a/ they're using a term "based" as a thumbs up button. Didn't we used to mock social networks.

How do you guys deal with this captcha. I could see myself becoming addicted to 4chan again and putting in 16 hour shitposting sessions, but this captcha is a constant reminder that I'm actively wasting my life. I can't imagine a smart person solving 90 captcha per day just to talk to strangers; that doesn't sound logical to me. I wish there was an alternative to 4chan with similar board culture. I'm still trying to find it. I have a theory that most smart oldfags left when captcha was added, and all of the less smarter ones stayed (no offense to you my brethren).

I remember when AoRF would spam threads with his Touhou imagedump script. I wish I could go back in time with my current programming knowledge. I could have made /a/ my bitch.

I'm 32 and touhou is something new to me, cause I was only into anime and manga (1300 days) before it. I hope keep some classical things as "new" until I die. Its rather sad how some people just quickly jump from a stuff to another stuff and one day they find themselves consuming a retarded woman pretending to be a 3d model screaming aaaaaaadmks ugadsssssao like a monkey because they had consoomed all good things.

>>36636225
I've been playing the games right when PCB came out.
I still enjoy the shumps a lot and many of the spin off games are very enjoyable too.
I just simply ignore the community unless its strictly about gameplay/1cc strategies/etc. Simple as.

>>36647057
It's part of an idiom. "I wouldn't get caught dead" means "I would be embarrassed if someone saw me". So it's as if he were saying "Ew, I'd be embarrassed if someone saw me driving with anime/video game music in my car."

>>36647950

>>36647950
The phrase that either outs you as a GPT bot or a person that is so fucking devoid of anything that you'd might as well be a bot.
Never any followup for discussion, never any argument, never anything, just fucking hollow.

>>36639250
>All I need is my waifu
This is probably before your time but there was a popular social network named formspring.me and a lot of prominent /jp/ers went on there. These are people that claimed to hate 3DPD women, yet I know of at least 5 that slid into the DMs of girls. Three of which actually ended up hooking up with a girl. I could name drop them but you guys wouldn't remember these name/tripfriends because again, they're before your time. I remember one of them making a post about women being 3DPD while also telling me on IRC about the girl he just hooked up with. A lot of the hate for 3D is just a futile attempt at maintaining a status quo. Their love for 2D waifus is legit, but they secretly wouldn't mind dating a 3D women if given the chance. Like all nationalist, they want an easy way to identify outsiders, and people who have gf must be an outsider because only hikikomori losers browse /jp/. I used to tell normalfags to GTFO for hours, but now that I've spent time away from 4chan I see how childish and futile that was. In defense of some of those /jp/ers the girls they were hooking up with had anime personas on tumblr/da. So they were fucking vtubers before vtubers existed. Good times.

>>36636225
>I've (...) never really cared for ZUN's canon material (which I would only use for citations in Yukari powerlevel debates).
could you have made it more obvious?

>>36650341
Go back to jerking off to Trevor, holoshitter.

>>36650067
'sup brother. Every influx of newfags and every let's call it "administrative change" (including introducing captchas at all, and the recent change to new captcha) changes how to the site feels, though since phoneposting began it really does not feel that drastic as it used to due to sheer volume of posts and dilution by normies. I'm still here mainly through inertia and apathy, like I said I haven't found any better place, and even if there was I'm probably too set in my ways to adapt to that place's culture. This is why I did not leave when captcha was added, also by the time the old captcha got really obnoxious I was making maybe 10-20 posts per day so it really didn't bother me that much. If there is or was a secret club for smart oldfags then I wasn't invited, but all the imageboards I've known that sprung up at some point every time 4chan's death was declared (7, 8, 420 and others) definitely weren't it.

>>36650341
only the saddest of attention whores actually participated in any of the /jp/-adjacent social media rings
the only ones that were even a little tolerable were IRC and the blogring and even then not by much

anyway the thing about 3dpd and neetdom is that, like everything else online, the people participating in the... culture, for lack of a better word, are a mix of larpers and actual believers. most people who have even a little bit of awareness know this. it's not, or hopefully shouldn't be, news for anyone.

>>36650546
>only the saddest of attention whores actually participated in any of the /jp/-adjacent social media rings
All namefriends are attention whores. But I must confess I went along with them to said social network, but in the case of me I only went by anonymous names. They were asking lewd questions to girls who had 2D personas. So it was kinda like a ghetto version of modern day vtubers. You would expect a girl to react with shock when you jokingly say "tits or gtfo" but surprisingly a lot of them did exactly that. And the initial reaction is what the hell, she's not offended by this and she seems to like the attention we're giving her. Three very well known old /a/ and /jp/ tripfriends hooked up in the span of a week. I feel like this tiny part of /jp/ history is lost, yet I'm the only one who is aware of it. And some did in fact meet up IRL.

>>36650700
while it's true that the vast majority of present-day /jp/sies don't know about archaic namefag drama, the few people who do know about it mostly don't care. literally nobody wants to go back to the days where retarded tripfag drama would spill onto the board and people would spam tfw no [actual tripfag photo] gf threads. these particular idiotic pieces of history are better off left in the dustbin where they belong.

i don't know what you're back here for - to "save" people from the idea of actually becoming 2D cultists or drinking the kool-aid or whatever - but nobody cares about these idiotic war stories from ten years ago. at the end of the day anyone who thinks they can live the rest of their life in parasocial relationships (whether with fictional characters or online personas or straight up idols) is free to do that, and anyone who can't do that should start worrying about life.

>>36650761
>i don't know what you're back here for - to "save" people from the idea of actually becoming 2D cultists or drinking the kool-aid or whatever
Yeah you're right, my rescue mission is mostly futile. I'm really just procrastinating on my wedding obligations to be honest. I'm actually not concerned with the cultist behavior, I'm just concerned with a few people here who haven't changed in the last 15 years. 15 years is a really long time. This thread's topic is about change over time. For people who just got into Touhou in the last year, it's not surprising if you are still a huge fan of the series, but for the old school 04 and 05 guys, it's a miracle if you're still into it after all these years. Same thing applies to being a cultist 2D advocate on /jp/, I am amazed people are still doing that. I grew out of that at least 8 years ago.

>>36648961
They're doing the same exact thing with Neko-Arc from Tsukihime since the start of September.

>>36650835
Let it go.
You keep coming here spouting nonsense about your personal life and how we choose to spend our own time.
You know nothing about us, we really don't care if you used to be more into weeb interests than you are now.
Touhou is still ongoing, that's why we like it. Some people like pokemon for those reasons. Some of us may even enjoy Harry Potter and reread the books as if it were a bible.

Sincerely congrats on the wedding, and get off your high horse.

>>36650546
>the people participating in the... culture, for lack of a better word
You are probably thinking of the word “subculture”.
I mean it really doesn't matter if you have a girlfriend or wife or anything. If you manage to balance your hobbies with that, good for you. But most of the time getting a girlfriend just means less dedication toward the “fandom” or even leaving it, because they think you can't have such hobbies and a girlfriend and are ashamed of it.
Also 99% of the time people online mention they have a girlfriend, it is to just to brag anyway. Ideally you wouldn't let people know about it.

>>36650700
i remember too but don't really talk about it much cause 1) it was really gay and stupid, just usual social media shit during those years and 2) think like bringing up specific tripfags anyway still gets you banned for some unholy reason
>>36651016
but if he doesn't validate his wedding status online to a bunch of nerds then he'll feel insecure about it and have to reconsider his decisions

>>36636225
I've played every game from 1 to 12.
I tried a bit 13 but stopped and never launched it again.
They're probably good, but I lost interest in that kind of game. I still listen to a lot of Touhou music however, it never get old.

>>36636225
I find it hard to not like given it continually pumps out quality canon stuff. If you don't like it in the first place you don't like it and that's fine. It's strange for me to conceive, given its uniqueness and regular growth, but not everyone can like everything

>>36638678
>There's only so many 2hu imagedump threads you can watch before you lose your mind.
Are you retarded or do you think every touhou fan on /jp/ only posts in those threads?

There are people who like image dumps and there are people who do not. The end

>>36636225
I got into Touhou like a couple of months ago, never bothered to read any of the canon material, the official games interested me more. After getting my first 1cc and Extra clear (EoSD), I got burned out until UM came along. The games are fun, the characters are interesting, the music is amazing, and the setting fits nicely. I highly doubt I'll lose interest anytime soon.
Also, the fangames are good too. I should probably get started on the canon material by reading the omakes first.

>>36636225
I got into the Touhou games because I originally liked challenging shooters to begin with. I wasn't exactly a weeb. The Serious Sam games of all things were what I was into before I picked up 2ho. I ended up learning more about the lore and characters through videos and canon manga.
So, unlike OP, I've always had a genuine interest the games themselves, and I think Zun has continually made quality content.
Unless he dies, I don't see my interest in the series waning anytime soon.

>>36644033
Bruh what dumb comment.

>>36653220
justified tho.
OP should leave for good.

>>36637526
LoLK caused a bit of a rebirth of the series, and has been on a upward trajectory since.
Funny, it might be my least favorite 2hu both in gameplay and music, but people loved it when it came out.

>>36636225
I love the music, even that of the newest ones. Every now I then I have an internal push that makes me play the games... not much, like one or two days every month. Finally it's in /jp/, so my mind can't really forget it.

>>36636225
I had my thoughs about it, the series is just kinda hard for me to stay up-to-speed, mainly with LostWord and UM being released. I do enjoy the official games going up to LoLK, but evwe erything after that is kinda..the same. I know thats the point and what not, but i've never noticed it until HSiFS, then I just kinda dwindled for a bit and only came back 4 years later just to relive some nostalgia. Now everything is something I'm not use to. I might start getting into the newer things sometime this year when college isn't kick my ass, but for now it's just hard to get use to new things in a series that has been the same for so long.

>>36650835
This >>36651016

I hope you don't misunderstand me or the tone I'm going to use but fuck off.

>>36647537
>I quit /jp/
>But I am postingon /jp/
larp more

>>36654651
How is UM "the same"? It's the game with the most original mechanic so far. If you mean the same core mechanics you might just say that most games are "the same" across most genres.

Back in...uh...Should´ve been 2009-ish, came into contact with Touhou via a video from youtube.
https://youtu.be/nkt0sn_BVcM

I thought "Damn, this music is awesome" and i got a few recommendations. Started listening to the arranges of those, and fell deeper into the 2hu spiral once i saw there´s games to it and fanart and stuff.
i joined an RP Fanpage on Facebook then, where we did a lot of Gensokyo roleplay, like acting alongside Reimu and Marisa during the incidents or just fucking around in Gensokyo.
(Man i miss those times.)
Then i had my own FB Fanpage called "Metalhead Cirno" where i was posting touhou pics and links to Metalsongs i liked, was okayish in popularity, a few thousand people followed it.
Then, somehow in 2014, some time after DDC came out, i just...drifted away from the fandom. i still loved the fanarts and stuff, but wasnt really invested anymore.
Got back into it now with LOST WORD, seeing as i wanted to have a gacha game for myself which would make fun for more than a week, other than Pokemon GO.
So now im here again. im glad i didnt get rid of those tons of GB of Touhou pics from back then :)

>>36654868
that's interesting, you should upload your old art somewhere cause it may have stuff that's not uploaded anywhere.

>>36636225
>And if not, how are you still a fan of it?
Because I love the games. Been playing every game since 2008 and still looking forward to new games and music every other year.

>>36654651
>the series is just kinda hard for me to stay up-to-speed, mainly with LostWord
No one cares or expects you to play generic gacha garbage.

>>36636225
i never cared about it retard. The oldfags were a bunch of autistic lolcows before the term was invented.

>>36636225
Touhou is dying. People are losing interest. When was the last time your favorite music circle released anything Touhou related? Ten bucks says 2018 or earlier. The series is losing steam.

>>36661261
last month

>>36661261
If I had a nickle for everytime someone said Touhou is reclining...

>>36661593
billionaire?

>>36636225
I like to draw fanart of it. I have friends who are touhou doujinshi (SFW) artists. It's a great community to get into if you're an artist or musician. Of course I also love how the community for Touhou is all about creating your own stuff within the universe and sharing it.

>>36667450
No not that much he'd be a thousandnaire

>>36636225
Got into it shortly after you, ca. 2006, big difference I guess is that I was never a secondary.
I like the games and exploring the lore, that's what keeps me going. Though it's become basically impossible to discuss either and make friends over it. Everyone's either a low-quality shitposter, stuck to some weird bubble clique or an eternal secondary who doesn't care.

>>36637526
The gacha games happened earlier this year. Also ZUN started putting the games on Steam, maybe that boosted it a bit too.

>>36654767
Calm down.

>>36639228
Your tranny gf will never be a woman

what a weeb

>>36638908
>06
>being old as fuck
>doesn't know people here can go up to 50 yo
>doesn't know about the migrations from somethingawful
>wasn't even there when the irc channel was a thing

you never really came here, you were at best a guest.

>>36636225
I haven't cared since the terrible Ten Desires demo dropped.

>>36638952
the fuck do you care? faggot.

>>36694257
Fatso

>>36636225
First exposure to Touhou was the usual but my real first experience playing the games was at around 2010 at a friend's house, thought it was fun but it wasn't enough for me to play it on my own. For some reason it wasn't until 5 years later that I randomly decided to try EoSD and I played it fairly consistently for years in a very casual manner, don't think I ever got a 1cc at that time. Then things got crazy on 2019, I started actively searching for more doujin circles, I began to play the games in order, all that nice stuff that I wished I could've started doing way before.
I'm in no rush, I'm currently at DDC and while there are times where the burn out starts to kick in I still have the energy to come back to it.

>>36700700
That... was my favorite in the series.
It's when the graphics got a nice overhaul, a different style of music.
Granted Yoshika is a pain in the ass but you're supposed to fail there often. Bomb her and move on that's my strat.
>>36721894
This is a wholesome post.
When I got into touhou heavily it was eosd that I finally decided to settle into and try to 1cc.
It really took me an entire year to unlock Flandre. Now there may be better players than us but that's ok.
It just feels good when you finally beat that goal you were aiming for after so many failed attempts.

I'm curious, did you play Hopeless Masquerade and the other ".5" games? Those are fun as hell.
I still go back to GFW because it feels more like a mini-game than the main games. Currently trying to get pofv up and running again but... I don't think I know what I'm doing. I just really want to netplay it again with a bro like I used to. The netplay is pretty stable so long as the game isn't running at a snails pace.
Please tell me you beat Yukari in PCB. That's a good one to boast about.

>>36722088
>did you play Hopeless Masquerade and the other ".5" games?
I've played IaMP, SWR, Soku and HM only. Of those 4 I only have 1cc'd IaMP and Soku with every char so I have to revisit the other 2 at some point. And I've been delaying the other spin-offs for far too long so I want to play some of them first before jumping to LoLK.
>spoiler
Funny you ask. There was a time where I was fascinated about her and the lore, the power levels and all that shit, I think a lot of people can relate to that. I was very looking forward to her battle but even after unlocking her stage I felt like I wasn't good enough, after all at that time I had played only 2 games. Couldn't even get past the stage itself so I decided it wasn't the time for me just yet.
I eventually did beat her, it felt fucking great defeating a character you've known for so long and getting to finally read her dialogues in-game. Nowadays she isn't even a threat anymore, I don't even consider her to be among the hardest extra bosses (at least the ones I've faced so far), but I still respect her, used to give me lots of trouble.

>>36722661
>finally read her dialogues in-game.
Yes, that is the feeling we all seek. Feelsgoodman.
>she isn't even a threat anymore
Literally now though. I can't believe she took a backseat to the wheelchair sage of all people. pun not intended
For me I think Suwako was the easiest and Raiko was the most fun. Like most players I kind of stopped at LoLK though so I'm unsure what Heca is like.
I have her unlocked, but god damn that game.

>>36694356
Who are you quoting?

>>36636225
I don't know what is good about it or the autism around it

>>36636225
when touhou dies so does /jp/

>>36637285
Shut up schizo mainline old hag

>>36638952
>Implying normalfaggotry is the next step in the evolution
No you are stuck and normies like you only care about either/or money, family, fame everything a hindrance to the advancement of mankind.

>>36643398
If I were u I'll just make my own IP inspired by touhou. Like Undertale.

>>36638595
I'm not holding out hope for Reimu or anyone else making it to Smash, but that would be cool if it happened.

>>36636225
I'll always care about touhou since it was so important to me when i was a teenager, my best summer vacation was one were i spend every day playing tons of fangames and trying to 1cc from th7 to th11, i always tried to recreate that summer but it was never the same
My interest to play it comes and goes, but i always return to play the mainline game and some fangames, right now i was starting Gensou Shoujo youyoumu again since the last time i played it was many years ago when it was still untranslated because the ones trying to do a patch couldn't edit the text in game. I couldn't get past Yuyuko because a shitty bug that froze the game after beating her, so i can't wait to beat it and then play the rest of the series.

>>36636225
I'm a newfag. I got into Touhou about 7 or 8 weeks ago. My introduction game was EoSD. Since then, I've downloaded PCB, SWR (and 12.3), IN and bought MoF, UFO, TD and DDC on Steam. Haven't quite beaten any of em yet but I'm getting there. Furthest I've gotten in any of them was Stage 6 in EoSD.

>>36737299
Have you tried easymodo?
You don't have to beat the games on hard to get an ending except for EoSD and MoF.

>>36738402

>>36738488
reddit meme

>>36738554
easy mode is for children

>>36636225
I had a general idea of what 2hu was since 2015~ but never got involved, only started playing the games this year. Hard to get bored when you haven't finished all mainline games in normal.
I've yet to play LoLK onwards, the gimmick games, the fighting games, the fangames, read the mangas, Curiosities of Lotus Asia and maybe upgrade to HARD.
If I find nothing else to do after that, I'll just wait for an Okuu fumo and be done with it.

I've played the games up until Ten Desires, but lost interest in mainline after that. The designs and music from the newer games just haven't appealed to me as much. I still like playing fangames from before that era, though.

>>36643743
fag opinion
>>36643564
agree with first two sentences. frowned at third because that is a retarded fucking analogy. realized you are a total retard that doesnt know shit about life judged by the last one.
>>36643398
"muh profit"
have you ever considered people make things just for the fun of it? There is one person, he draws, codes and composes just for the fun of it, his name is Junya Ota.
kike-blooded nigger.

>>36744588
ZUN makes the games for money each one on Steam costs 15 American dollars. He may claim that he makes the games "for himself" but I doubt that.

>>36744588
And it's not just Steam either he sells his games at Comiket and Retaisai for roughly the same amount in yen

>>36636225
To be absolutely honest, after almost twenty years of being a Touhou fan I'm probably mostly running or inertia by now. But… I still like it. Sure not as madly as when I was starting but it sort of became a part of my life I don't see abandoning ever.

>>36636225
>>36641514

I think I became aware of Touhou around 2008-2009, played EoSD for the first time in 2010 when I was about to enter High school. But at the time it was just a novelty game, that instead of planes it had witches with poorly but cute drawn pictures.

A booster period for me was 2014-2015, I got into trouble and was about to get expelled from College, thank God it didn't happen, but it was a time I was supper depressed to a point I really didn't move and lost 20 kgs.

Gradually as time passed on, I just listened to Touhou circle remixes, and slowly as my situation improved I just kinda played the games a lot. For a brief moment, I was a NEET, but that was ok at the time, instead of suicidal thoughts, for worse or better I started lurking especially into the music, but I also wanted to play the games, etc, etc. It was funny how suddenly the funny anime girls began to have a name and lore (and fan lore) attached to my head. so Touhou has a special meaning for me. I can't say I'm obsessed (well, there was a time I couldn't listen to anything but Shibayan), but Touhou is just like a little mind heaven for me. I can enter zombie trance mode with Astrolomeria which really helps a lot during working hours.

But when I think of Touhou, I of course just don't look at the music, I try to look at it from different angles:

>>36756570

(2/2)

-There is the fact that it was born as a one-man crusade, and that sole fact is impressive, I admire ZUN as a game dev and person, he just does it for the love of art.

-On the other hand, the creative freedom of the project is unparalleled, I can't think of any other fandom that has more dedication and creativity on so many levels. When you think of it, is just about a dumb little game about magic girls, but look at what the people have created by so many years. It's like a little niche renaissance (of course we have cringe and porn plague, but it's part and parcel), and the inception goes further beyond with other mini niches like Cookie.

-The games themselves are cool and to see their evolution for so many years, is something amazing.

-And of course, the lore and characters themselves, which could be plain at first glance, but canon and fanon have built an interesting concept. From what I see it, Gensokyo is like the cemetery of fairytales and Gods of the old world, as people lose faith in those a place like Gensokyo had to exist. Which is a romantic concept, like how Don Quixote forces his own world into the real world because he is afraid of the absurdity of reality.

And then again, all this is just fantasy and a hobby, which must not derail us from our real and personal lives. But it's a nice side though in my case.

https://youtu.be/hJinsn3spBw

>>36744912
Not him but you're taking ZUN's statement too hyper-literally. When people don't explicitly care about profit and popularity or when they say they make things for themselves, they're not taking the extreme of other people don't matter or money doesn't matter at all. It's not a strict binary like that.
You can work on your passion project and stick to your vision, and also want other people to enjoy what you made and want to make a living off of it. The fact that the latter technically has an influence on the former doesn't contradict the core of what you're doing, which is the fact that it's still ultimately your vision and that your motivation for making it is because you're personally passionate about it.

The point of the distinction is really to illustrate the shallowness of specifically putting so much focus on status, profit, and popularity.

>>36756612
>-The games themselves are cool and to see their evolution for so many years, is something amazing.
This.