/jp/ - Otaku Culture

he hammers out songs in like 2-3 hours, hasn't done an engine overhaul since like 14 apart from adding borderless options in 18, increased the dev cycle to two years and sometimes it's just tasofro struggling to get a game out in the off years so it's not like he does all that much
he has to find time to write the manga outlines and any other lore books he has ongoing too though

>>38252499
Who are you quoting?

I've been trying the one man indie game thing using Godot for about a year now. ZUN's big advantage is this is his full time job, and he used to work for Taito.

And the writing/plot is the easy part. That just requires daydreaming.

>>38252611
He is quoting no one.
He's using greentext for abbreviation.

>>38252927
he should stop misusing the quote function

didn't know he made the engine from scratch
also he has said that he kinda wings the stage 1~4 themes and puts most of his effort into stage 5,6 and EX but it was a passing comment on the danmaku kagura streams so idk how seriously he meant by it

>>38252499
He gets drunk and plays on his computer.
When he sobers up he looks at everything he made and sifts through it.

>>38252499
He already has a framework in place. According to him, it takes 2 months to code it all.

The guy is a walking DRY principle.

>>38252959
You're about a decade late on everyone internalizing greentext site-wise, and about 8-7 years late on some autists on /jp/ who previously had no issue with greentext and general reaction images start using them as shibboleths to shut down topical threads without bothering to even address the topic.
So no, he really shouldn't.

>>38252499
Is this the only picture of ZUN you guys have?

>>38252927
>>38253055

>>38252625
I think Cave Story gets much more recognition as a quintessential one-man indie game due to it being a long polishing act by an outsider to the game dev scene. I think that's a more reasonable expectation for game development time.

>>38253055
>be op
>get rightfully insulted
>QQ to a deaf crowd
>notice crowd is just a pile of salmon
>realize this is a river of tears, not a message board
>op is a butthurt bear

>>38253115
Who are you quoting?

I have been working on this concept of an STG for a while now with Touhou as the main inspiration, but I doubt I will ultimately be able to make much of it. Currently trying to learn music making and I've torn up a few of zun's midis and I have no idea what the fuck is going on in them. I hope to complete some sort of game by the end of this uni semester.

>>38252499
he is aryan

>>38253129
I wouldn't set deadlines.

>>38253074
Here is another one.

>>38253137
Yes, but I am the sort of person who will never do anything without a deadline.

>>38253149
I recommend buying a calendar and placing a physical reminder right in front of you of your self imposed goals.

I also have Kasen pointing at me to remind me of you goals. I know you can do it, anon.

>>38253226
Thanks for the inspiration anon. I will do this and mark out a day clearly.

>>38253074
Here's a pic of him when I showed him my penis.

>>38253055
Holy based. Also, friendly reminder that j*nny (biggest threat to /jp/ culture) shares whiny faggots' annoying poser attitude. Derailing on-topic threads with template shitposts doesn't make them any less of shitposts. It's just /jp/ equivalent of wojaks, pepes and endlessly repeated buzzwords with only difference being that wojak gets new variant every few months while Marisa's thumb has been paralyzed for over a decade.

>>38253877
>wojaks, pepes
What?

>>38252499
the bigger question is, how much money is it making him?

>>38253877
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>38252625
>And the writing/plot is the easy part. That just requires daydreaming.
maybe for you

honestly his work pace is pretty average for someone who does his kind of work
pumping out art and music is easy if you're good at it , you get into the groove quickly
once you've done the base engine for gamedev it's also easy to make more games, especially if you make it the same genre over and over. not to insult him, i think it's smart of him to do so. if it ain't broke don't fix it...
>>38253936
probably lots considering the different store fronts he sells on, merch contracts, etc
passive income outside of comiket releases

I believe in an older interview he said it takes him 2 hours to hammer out a full song and he purposefully balances his drawings between quality and time cost.

>>38253936
Enough to own a beer distillery.

>>38253055
>>38253877

>>38252927
he's misusing the quote function.
>>38253055
You're misusing the quote function.

>>38254299
Was it this one? He talks about how it only takes a few hours to complete a song and he shows how he creates his artwork for the game.

https://youtu.be/sXftzeXjADQ

>>38255559
Yeah lol
I thought his pencil drawings looked very good and he doesn't need reference or guide lines to draw like that so clearly he has some proficiency with drawing unlike a lot of people seem to think.

>>38253055
And you're a decade late on knowing "who are you quoting" is an ancient meme. Please don't pretend to be an oldfag.

>>38255559
It looks like, everyone in Japan is born with at least some artistic proficiency. Maybe it was once like this in the western world, too.

>>38255905
It was a retarded meme then, and it is a retarded meme now.

>>38253074
No, there are plenty of pics of him. I personally liked the one with him drinking a large beer

>>38255054
Thanks for proving my point.

>>38253877
It's ironic how the reason to be against the usage of greentext was because to keep the quality of threads from lowering, but here we are in another thread that got derailed by the same autistic people who thinks feigning ignorance is not shitposting.

>>38253877
Janny is trash, but you are too.
>>38259419
Posting a trash rage comic, you prove you're trash.

>>38261674
more than anything it's not about zun developing games
you know, the actual topic

>>38255559
I love how he's got a marisa deka in there.

>>38256045
His work looks like something you'd draw in kindergarten.

>>38253226
Huh..., I should try that.

>>38266562
You overestimate the ability of kindergarteners to translate their artistic imagination into a 2D form that is readily understood by others.

My drawing is actually at a kindergarten level primarily due to dysgraphia, and that's more like having to use a ruler to draw a stickman that isn't lopsided or wavy. Or work very slowly in small strokes.
But I can use pixel art programs and image editors just fine so I just lean on those.

ZUN probably just picked up drawing idiosyncratically and it meets his needs while giving a style.

>>38256045
You start out at relatively the same level.
The difference is that art in the west isn't relevant until the latter years of school. High School and onward. By then, it's no different than learning how to walk for the first time as an adult.
Some can draw well and are praised for it, but are never spurred to improve. Then there are others who are simply good at it and it does nothing more than impress people.
There's no career in art, especially out of an era where the meaning of a job meant being in an office 8 hours a week.
Most people who are gifted in art are often discouraged from continuing, much to great effect. The most famous example of such discouragement is probably Hitler, assuming it's true.

>>38267977
>Hitler
Hitler's real talent was architecture, which he was prevented from pursuing due to a lack of formal education. His painting wasn't bad, but he had a more traditonal approach while modern art was in vogue when he applied to art school.
In fact, despite being rejected from school Hitler continued with his art and was eventually able to make a meagre living from it. Then WWI hit and you generally know the rest. Hitler was already very interested in politics as early as 1900 though; see The Young Hitler I Knew by Kubizek for more.

>>38266562
A genius kindergartener.

>>38252499

>>38252499
crack