/jp/ - Otaku Culture

It's not just you. Fate/stay night is terrible.

Oh, look, a redundant troll.

Hi, redundant troll.

Or rather, go back to /a/.

>>4166573
>go back to /a/
He can't, he got banned for being a gigantic faggot.

>>4166566
Cause it made a lot of money.

>>4166573
my bad if it looked like I was trolling. I tried this discussion on /a/ and not enough people played to give me a proper response of the general.

i was wondering what /jp/ thought of it, b/c honestly you guys play more VN

This tripwhore is low-tier.

Are you still not banned yet?

That guy is awesome.

>>4166566
I recommend you to visit these imageboards, we don't like you here.
http://bunbunmaru.com/wakaba/general/
http://www.pooshlmer.com/wakaba/
http://imageboard4free.com/board/Tohno/

hey, dude.

Trolling really doesn't accomplish much except making your dick feel slightly bigger. How much bigger do you need to get man.

And on that note, it's not even your real dick anymore. It's fictional. It doesn't exist. Just like this net persona. I'd suggest just dropping it and realize the futility of it all.

Judging by how people are reacting, I'm taking /jp/'s consensus is FSN is good?
Only VN i really liked was Yume Miru Kusuri. Even the sex scenes flowed.

FSN has shit writing, everyone's tastes are different, etc

>>4166598
It was pretty good.

Have only finished Fate, but it was enjoyable.

As an impartial ambassador of /a/, I must offer my condolences, /jp/.

Hopefully you can get rid of him.

>>4166607
You're getting my hopes up. If only it happens here.

>>4166625
Take him back with you as soon as you can.

>>4166614
what makes it exactly good. Plot isn't that impressive, pacing is weak. Music was okay, so was character development. But overall,i felt like it was one of the weaker pieces.

>>4166607
oh wow. Saved.

>>4166629
Oh, I was actually agreeing with you on YMK.

So quick to jump to conclusions. I wonder if that's intentional or not...

>>4166629
You are right. F/S Night is weak. Tsukihime was better

>>4166645
in b4 "the dark and cold-as-ice Tsukihime" pasta.

>>4166566
>>they dont stop talking about some weird concept i couldn't care less about

That's the power levels. It also consists of lots of talking about strategy for upcoming fights as well.

It's the main meat of stuff like Fate/Naruto/Bleach etc. Can't live with it, can't live without it.

>>4166638
Oh, i wasn't talking about YMK. im talking about fate stay night.

>>4166651
Not the FANS, ZUN.
Within the story.
Magical Nasu exposition.

>>4166651
But while they explained the fantasy elements, it felt like i was watching them through a telescope of their world.
Their fantasy world didn't blend in.

Good writing shows, instead of tells. I think talking about concept is what weaker pieces of literature do.

ie. Spirited away. While i saw that movie, everything flowed. Not for a second did i doubt what i was seeing. and Miyazaki showed the rules of their world. Instead of having 20 min session and telling it to us. that is awfully boring. It's like a lecture.

>>4166652
>>Only VN i really liked was Yume Miru Kusuri. Even the sex scenes flowed.

It doesn't matter at this point anyways. Trolling is futile. It's like picking on retarded kids. You may feel really cool, and you may end up hurting some people, but you're still an ass who didn't really accomplish anything.

Try playing them again when you're not 12.

>>4166671
I think you forgot that you were reading a VN.

I never played f/sn. Were there molluscs involved?

>>4166670
If i wanted to create a troll thread, i can pick a better way and not write paragraph per post. Notice how i'm the one doing most of the writing in this thread? Ya. usually that's not an indication of a troll, rather someone who actually wants to discuss.

Even though i hardly ever come here, I can spot a newfag when I see one. And you clearly are.

>>4166688
You don't need to show it through moving images. You show through their action, response, reactions. etc.

Not "there are 3 types of ...."
Having those once in awhile is okay. But they get awfully long.

>>4166693
Trolls try too hard to get replies.

>>4166693
Just seems like the sign of a failed troll who is trying to save something that sucked in the first place.

/v/ here.

enjoying this tripfag? he already got banned from our place

>>4166693
My original post still applies. One need not resort to namecalling in a so-called "serious discussion."

>>4166705
>>4166706
If that's the case, why don't you stop posting? You r feeding the troll.

if your not going to discuss, just hide this thread.

>>4166716
I kinda wanna chill here with you to let you know how futile your behavior is until you get globally banned. Not like either of us have anything else to do tonight, right?

>>4166717
And you came to the board just to tell us that?
Do you not have anything better to do?

>>4166717
hey /v/ though my time there was short, i'll be back there. once it expires. I took a liking to you guys. You guys are more fun than /a/, without spamming hatred every post.

>>4166726
If I made you do all that, I'm a "successful troll"

thank you.

>>4166724

nah, just stay here. we don't need you

REIKA BITCH TRAINING IS BETTER GO READ IT

I don't think the OP is trolling, it's just that there are many people on /jp/ who think Nasu's writing is pure gold and that anyone who says other wise is trolling.

>>4166750
Welcome to /jp/, newfriend. Enjoy your stay.

>>4166742
Are you a spokesperson for /v/? b/c most /v/ members welcomed me nicely.

>>4166731

i'm just strolling. I don't if this faggot come to your board.

>>4166731

i'm just strolling. I don't know if this faggot is here in your board.

>>4166750
>I don't think the OP is trolling, it's just that there are many people on /jp/ who think Nasu's writing is pure gold and that anyone who says other wise is trolling.

People like Type-Moon's stuff _despite_ the writing, not because of it. Nasu isn't a good writer, but he's good at coming up with ideas that stay in your head.

>>4167640
I like Nasu's writing but not the powerlevel shit.

>>4167658
That's mostly a fan problem.

>>4167640
I liked the character reflection scenes in both FS/N and Tsukihime, but that might just be me.

>>4167702
While it may receive disproportionate attention from fans Nasu does spend too much time on the different rules and powers and such. More so in F/SN than Tsukihime. Mostly I just don't care about the "Nasuverse" in general, unlike most Type-Moon fans.

In both Turkeyhandle and Fall/Semester Mike I would trudge through the bad internal monologue with some difficulty, then lose myself for tens of minutes in picturing how I would myself act in the same situation... And finally snap back to reality when I was forced to do something illogical instead.

So yeah, Nasu isn't what I would call a "good" writer. But he has talent in coming up with immersive scenarios. It's a shame the both "games" are so non-interactive in the end, because if the reader was given more opportunities to act the way he wishes, these things could truly kick ass.

>>4167754
He establishes a universe that has very different rules and has a plot setting that relies on them. And the battles are not the only focus by far. Of course he will expand.
That's where we come to an actual problem as a writer, over exposition. Though considering how many things people not seem to get or interpret properly, it seem the 'over' is not enough.
If you cannot immerse yourself to the setting for whatever reason, I guess it makes it harder to like this shit in overall.

The fighting scenes in FSN could get a bit boring for me, I thought they were done better in Tsukihime but the fighting scences weren't the best bit of either game for me.

you cannot really dudge on his writing because you are playhing a translated novel so youre jus tlooking at the translators writing
learn japanese and then try again

>>4168234
Not everything is lost on translation.

You know, I read this thread, and then I thought 'What the fuck, /jp/? What the fuck has happened to you?'

Then I saw the OP was a tripfag. Your sins are forgiven, /jp/.

Even though FSN and Tsukihime WERE complete ass.

Swan Song was supposed to have brilliant writing but look what happened http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4148095#p4148669

sauce on Ops pic? is it from a porno?

>>4168268
Faith/Stay Night by TMA

FSN definitely has a lot of flaws in its narrative, anyone who disagree is a blind fanboy.

It's not that bad otherwise, Shirou was well developed despite the fact this development felt a bit too spoonfeeded at time, the setting was pretty interesting and well explored too.
There were a lot of moments though when the it felt like Nasu thought he had a fucking great idea and masturbated about it for pages and pages, often repeating the same thing again and again every 2 lines.

Also the prose was far too bland making the text seem really unimpressive, but that's probably the fault of the translator.

8/10 VN, there are better translated nowadays.

>>4168450
Not that many.

Personally I think only UBW deserves the hype FSN gets. It's the only thing above average thing in FSN.

Fate: 7
UBW: 9
HF: No comment.

>>4168450
>more or less negative review
>8/10
Ahh, the Gamespot generation.

>>4168461
8/10 for its media.
And it's not that negative, the protagonist is well developed and the setting is great, for a VN it's already good enough.

>>4168381

I hope the Kugumi Rin has a penis

>>4168461
Describes the problems of the narration only, not saying it's bad in overall.
What do we call the generation that cannot put shit into context?

>>4168247
In Japanese = Masterpiece, best eroge ever, real deal, fucking awesome.

Translated = Disney, furry, pretentious overrated shit, Naruto.

>>4168469
Huge problem in the pacing, you are completely deluded if you didn't see it.

No subtlety at all in the characterization, how many times for example did we have to see that town in fire flashback?

Over-exposition in the form of lots of wall of texts, that's a lazy way to create a world, that's once again a problem of subtlety

>>4168486
>>What do we call the generation that cannot put shit into context?
>>cannot put shit into context?