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Do people just not play this game anymore?

>> No.43074890

>>43074635
/jp/ is too fast for elona now

>> No.43076947

I still play, wheres cgx for the latest 2.17 ? DUDE ILL EVEN DONATE

>> No.43077510

>>43074635
No updates and the discord is a better place to talk about the game. I've stopped going to the threads a long time ago because they just weren't very interesting and it was all focused on Plus instead of OOMSESTepNC.

>> No.43078994

I'm waiting for the next CGX before I redownload onto my new computer. I also don't OP because I'm worried I'll miss something.

>> No.43079905

>>43077510
Where’s the discord?
I’m gonna be depressed if Elona general disappears forever.

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>>43077510
>discord

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>>43074635
Waiting for Elin news

>> No.43080739

The Discord really is, sadly, more useful than the thread. No offense to the thread, but it's also very up-to-date on the meta of the newest versions and is more searchable than going to /jp/'s archive. We had a good run, elonabros!

>>43079905
You can find it on the wiki.

>> No.43080945

>>43080739
Anyone and everyone who uses disc*rd deserves to be flayed alive and force-fed their own skin.

>> No.43081547

I feel like it’s tradition for /jp/ to have an Elona general at all times.
Have all the old guard really left?

>> No.43081962

>>43081547
/jp/ hasn't been the same since 2020

>> No.43082517

>>43080739
The OOMSESTepNC links on the wiki are dead. Also the twitter account that the rentry guide says has the updated discord link doesn't exist anymore.

>> No.43083131

>>43081547
Whoever made the last proper thread did I guess, since we're now two threads in without the standard OP. I wouldn't really care except that it has the instructions for fixing the errors noobs always get, and it can get annoying when those aren't in the OP.
If some newfag who was binge-watching old Sseth videos reads this, set the game to Windows 7 compatibility mode. You're welcome.

>> No.43085192

>>43083131
I still have the link to the last thread that got the OP

>> No.43085207

>>43074635
I stopped playing because it causes my shit to overheat whenever I run it.

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>>43085207
Clean the dust out of your computer.

>> No.43085394

>>43074635
Every time I start an elona run, it just makes me want to play cdda instead for some reason.

>> No.43089451 [DELETED] 

>>43074635
Just make the thread if you want to see it.

>> No.43090744

>>43089451
this

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onii-chaaan

>> No.43096909

>>43077510
>discord
No, anything but that.

>> No.43100292

Does anyone use the custom NPC system? Sometimes I've considered using it to make an OP pet, but it felt like it'd be a bit much, even for this game.

>> No.43106082

>>43074890
nah most of the /vt/ spam that filled the catalog is gone.

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Damn. Came to the jay after some years to see if Elona threads still exist and this is all that's left, huh?
I'm probably gonna start playing again. I've got the itch.
>>43077510
Shill me on whateverthefuck that is over playing E+ again.

>> No.43106470

>>43106163
If you like grinding hard in Elona, then OOMSESTepNC is way better than Plus. Attribute uncapping so you can go beyond 2k, insane grinding methods where instead of raising your attributes with herbs you kill mobs that drop rods of wishing and end up with hundreds of them. OOMSESTepNC is THE greatest xianxia game ever made. Sadly the creator has stopped development, but as it works really well, and there's still tons of content to go through.
It also has a bunch of other features that carry over from other omake variants like extra gods, South Tyris that's different than Plus, and a customizable continent that works like a played owned house, a few extra guilds including a prostitution guild. There's a blacksmithing mechanic where you can upgrade your weapons yourself, but it's a giant pain to level.

If you like Elona for roleplaying and making playing with your waifus/husbandos, Plus is probably better, but if you like the powerleveling aspect of Elona or Disgaea, then OOMSESTepNC is a straight upgrade.

I think there should be a link in either the pastebin of the previous thread or in the discord for the download link.

>> No.43107341

>>43074890
Yes, we went ~12 hours without a post last week and died. It's sad.

>> No.43107387

>>43106163
Will ehekatl be a dude in elin?

>> No.43108061

Recent changes to E+ have made the early game incredibly easy, to the point that I think you could beat NT in ~10 hours without any powergaming strategies (e.g. overpowered pets) or starting from a gene. Feels kind of silly but I don't hate it, just like I didn't hate the PP skill cap at 15 vice 50.

>> No.43108415

>>43107387
Is Elin even alive anymore? I've been out of the loop.
>>43106470
Sounds like I'm sticking with E+ then.

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>>43108415
It got a demo released during new years

>> No.43109631
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This is why Oomsestep NC is funnier than Plus.

>> No.43110871

anyone got it running on a steam deck ?

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>>43074635
>Elona
The best part of waking up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3GaDGPVj4

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Am I supposed to take the plot seriously? the game's tone is so damn all over the place

>> No.43115015

>>43113980
The plot is much more serious than the game, but the plot is also barely related to what the player is doing, except act 2/3 in Plus, which is a fanfiction gone super saiyan.

>> No.43115393

90%+ anons on /jp/ don't have Discord anyways so the Elona Discord won't work for them. Beaides, don't you need to verify a phone number for that? Shit sucks.

>> No.43115682

>>43115393
It was also made by criminal data thieves who'd previously exploited peoples' computers with a nearly identical platform. It's basically a glorified trojan, I'm honestly amazed that there are still people dumb enough to use it.

>> No.43117373

What the hell is the point of slime molds if you can only use the limbs if you currently don't have the limb? Is it only for snails?

>> No.43117648

>>43109631
Does oomSESTep force you to use arial or are you making an active choice to make your font look worse

>> No.43119178

>>43117373
For pets.

>> No.43120078

>>43115015
Good thing he learned not to do that in Elin

>> No.43124787

>>43119178
Is there any non-obvious use for it, or is it just a bit less random than using a gene machine to add limbs?

>> No.43127538

>>43124787
Ano has added a ton of pure roleplay stuff recently (which was apparently part of his master plan considering the hundred+ special actions he has added since he started) so I imagine the slime mold will either do more in the future or it's purely intended for somebody to roleplay using a healing slime to give a pet a missing limb... or something.

>> No.43127639

I wanted to play OOMSESTepNC because of this thread, but is anyone in the discord with the Nesuko Custom DLs capable of posting either the DL itself or an invite link to it? All the Discord invite links I found on the wikis are dead, and the official Twitter account doesn't seem to exist anymore, either.

>> No.43129083

>>43127639
Can't you get everything you need from here?
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/oomSESTepNC

>> No.43130766

>>43129083
Thank you, somehow I never found the github page. However, when trying to compile it with HSP351 it's throwing me an "#Error 12 in line 6051 (southtyris.hsp) --> ファイルが見つからないか無効な名前です" error, but I don't think I've done anything wrong according to the Github instructions. I'll keep messing with it.

>> No.43134406

>>43130766
If you want a working version of OOMSESTepNC, I've found this page after searching for a bit :
https://rentry.org/8vkaw

>> No.43135262

>>43134406
Bless you anon

>> No.43135533

>>43134406
Thanks for the help. It turns out the file I was missing was nc_board.txt which I, (mostly out of curiosity) yanked out of the download you linked and shoved it into the folder I was trying to compile and it worked. Now I have two installs!

>> No.43138569

>>43135533
Does that mean the repo's missing a file? If so, someone should probably let the dev know.

>> No.43141508

>>43077510
>discord
Oh, so THAT'S where the irrational Plus hatred comes from.

>> No.43142449

>>43141508
>irrational
Or people actually prefer Noa's vision of the game to Ano's (which has strayed far away from its original premise).

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>>43142449
You sound like a cultist.

>> No.43143080

>>43143031
>nooo you have to put up with plus's MMO tier progression curve forever!!!
I think omake is trash I just can't stand plus's desisgn philosophy moreso.

>> No.43143421

>>43143080
Who are you quoting?

>> No.43143434

>>43143421
You (you speak like an annoying nasally faggot in real life).

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>>43143434
So you're saying that you've been spending a considerable amount of time concocting fantasies about me in your head, including fantasizing about my voice and sexual orientation?
Well, I can't stop you, but frankly, I'm not actually interested. Your personality is too caustic. You do you though.

>> No.43144617

>>43124787
You could theoretically use them for heirship on a mutant at the start of the game to develop a full set of slots (12?), wear disturb growth equipment to clear North Tyris, go to Gavela to max out at 15 slots, then have the added slots per level to get 27 slots. Not sure what the mutant meta is nowadays.

>> No.43144810

>>43144617
Good point, being able to inherit them might make them useful for that. You can only use a slime mold to gain a slot if you don't already have a slot of that type, right? Mutants start with Body and Hand (and Shoot/Ammo of course), so you could gain one each of Head, Neck, Back, Ring, Arm, Waist, and Leg.

>> No.43146136

>>43143080
>you have to put up with plus's MMO tier progression curve
Why not just play old school runescape
14 hours of fishing will get you 1 level all the same

>> No.43146644

>>43144617
Disturb growth and +10 hand slot strategies don't work in E+ anymore.

>> No.43149991

>>43141508
Irrational Plus hatred has been around nearly as long as Plus has existed for a variety of bullshit reasons.

>> No.43152936

>>43144160
See? You're still attempting to communicate with me in that pansy, smart-ass, passive aggressive tone. Why SHOULDN'T I point out the obvious decadence and sickliness in your character?
>>43146136
Do you prefer World of Warcraft expansion hell instead where the game is virtually unrecognizable from its original iteration under some false pretense of "evolution"?

>> No.43152953

>>43106470
>Plus
>roleplaying
lol

>If I choose to not use one of the billion super powers my character is granted for leveling normally that's roleplaying!
lmfao

>> No.43153574

>>43080945
A few days ago I thought that this sounded unnecessarily violent. Now I'm convinced that it'd be far too lenient.

>> No.43153700

>>43080945
truth

>> No.43155097

>>43146644
Why not? Because the build itself sucks, or because disturb growth can't hold back the sheer amount of EXP?

>> No.43157306

>>43155097
>Because the build itself sucks
Yes, there are hard limits on multi-wielding and number of attacks per turn.
>or because disturb growth can't hold back the sheer amount of EXP
Also yes.

>> No.43158190

>>43157306
Doesn't Custom-GX have tweaks that fix both of those problems?

>> No.43158351

>>43158190
>Doesn't Custom-GX have tweaks that fix both of those problems?
Yes.
It doesn't bring back EXP to the snail's pace of vanilla levels though, but to Plus 1.9 levels, which I think had a good balance for the amount of content in Plus.

>> No.43158417

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/elin

>> No.43158785

is noa still under attack by electronic brainwaves-chan

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>>43158785
Him and everyone else.

>> No.43163095

>>43158417
It's a prequel? Interesting.

>> No.43163972

>>43158785
Noa should've accepted the waves and tap into the Noosphere

>> No.43164096

>>43158417
Whose idea was this? is it fine to do kickstarters nowadays?

>> No.43167110

>>43158417
It's really Noa's and not a fake, right?

>> No.43168077

>>43167110
Posted on his twitter and relayed by JP sites 3 days before tool.

>> No.43168429

And there seems to be an english account now ran by one of Noa's friends
https://twitter.com/lafrontier1

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>> No.43173375

>>43171739
will rueken go back to making elona art again?

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43173893

Im just gonna ask here, what do I do about the following message when trying to shoot?
>矢/弾丸の種類が適していない

>> No.43173970

>>43173893
To explain in other words, I can't shoot anything when pressing f

>> No.43174149

>>43173893
You're playing a videogame in a language you can't read and asking us what it says when there's an option to play it in a language you can read? Are you serious?
I also don't read jap but I've played enough videogames to guess that you don't have an appropriate ammunition equipped for your ranged weapon, or don't have a ranged weapon equipped. Maybe you missed a "brainwash" message because it was in a language that you can't read.

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>>43174149
I can read jap, just because I can't read every word doesn't mean I can't read any words and playing a game in the language is an excellent way to improve.
I believe I know what the problem is anyway. 適する confused me at first, but I believe it's because I doesn't have crossbow bolts equipped, but arrows instead when I am using a crossbow.

I am not gonna insult you back because I would rather be nice. Here's a cute image even though you don't deserve it.

>> No.43178283

Not even a thank you for telling you what the problem was?

>> No.43181224

>>43178283
No. Eat shit, bitch

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>>43178283
I had the solution figured out so I didn't read the latter half of your message and you triggered me alot with that first part.

>> No.43182018

So do I start with Elona+ or oomSESTepNC?

>> No.43182046

>>43182018
>>43134406
So 2.12 is the most stable and preferred version? I just saw that there's already a 2.17 but the custom-gx thing only goes up to 2.15 whose download is now gone.

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>>43182046
>custom-gx thing only goes up to 2.15 whose download is now gone.
?

>> No.43182172

>>43182135
I'm a retard. I just saw that, looks like the git keeps a download of the actual game.

>> No.43185867

i started riding pascal and gave her custom ai to make her an archer and the griffon gun, now she just destroys everything automatically while i walk around, what is a better weapon to give her ?

>> No.43191365
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How do the survival extender work exactly?

>> No.43194527

>>43191365
it extends your survival

>> No.43194618

>>43191365
https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF

>> No.43199218

>>43074635
I used to.
No I play gacha.

>> No.43199228

>>43074635
elona kinda boring ngl

>> No.43199348

Lulwy's ass is super interesting.

>> No.43200400 [DELETED] 

>>43074635
/jp/ is too fast for elona now

>> No.43201193

>>43173893
your weapon and emo are not suited.
like you equipped bow and bullet or gun and arrow

>> No.43201808

>>43199348
All the guys in town prefer Shena's ass.

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>> No.43209633

I've looked all over the internet but I can't find an answer to this question: when exactly do job boards in towns reset? Is it 3 days or something? Playing elona+ custom gx

>> No.43209680

>>43201808
>Shena's ass
Where is her statue, then? Face it, her ass is as real as Eyth.

>> No.43209689

>>43209633
I'm pretty sure quests rotate, so when one times out a new one takes its place.

>> No.43212572

>>43209633
I think this is it:
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/blob/3e62ca7379cf09654690afbcbdaf55e3732bcb7a/2.05-custom-gx/quest.hsp#L108
Looks like up to 4 days? I'm not familiar enough with HSP to know whether "rnd(3 + 1)" means "(rnd(3)+1)" or "rnd(4)".

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>>43074635
I have tried it, but I could never understand how to get anything done in that game. It doesn't help that there are few resources in English.

>> No.43219397

>>43219134
What do you mean? what's not to understand?

>> No.43221791

>>43219134
If you have any questions, ask them in one of these threads, and some oldfags will probably pipe up with answers.

>> No.43228091

>>43219397
It's a pretty complex game. For a total newbie, figuring out how to survive hunger, enemies, and the Etherwind is harsh. Everyone needs advice early on.

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>>43228091
what got you stuck specifically?

>> No.43229198

Is there a faster way to get plat besides quests and dungeons? Quests are getting boring but I also don't want to do a dungeon for 30 minutes to get like 3 plat.

>> No.43229278

>>43229198
Nope.
Hunting, escort, and challenge quests are insanely quick and easy. That's all there is to it.

>> No.43229288

>>43229198
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Yacatect%27s_gem_stone_of_god_medal

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>>43221791
>>43219397
>what's not to understand?
How I'm supposed to get passed second floor of puppy cave and what I should do after that. I would grind my combat skills until I can do hunting jobs, grind more plat and still die on floor 2 of that cave.
This is despite wanting to get farther because I find the design of this game interesting.

>> No.43229528

>>43229508
Are you playing vanilla or plus? what class are you?

>> No.43229716

>>43229528
Plus and most characters where Juere Warriors as the wiki recommended but I tried other combinations as well. I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or if Elona moves slower then other rougelikes I played.
I also just read on the wiki that I can upgrade stuff at a blacksmith so mebe I'm a retard.

>> No.43229720

>>43229508
>dying in the puppy cave
how?

>> No.43231514

>>43229716
Personally I'd say try a lich, they get huge racial bonuses nowadays. And yeah, getting all your gear to +2 or so makes a big difference.
What fighting styles have you been going for? For a new player, I'd probably recommend two-handed melee and/or throwing grenades. You can always switch to something else later after you're more established.

>> No.43232534

>>43229508
You could try to avoid the puppy cave for now and just try and complete your first random lv 1 nefia you find in the overworld after stat grinding.
It'll be a bit easier since
1: floors aren't randomly generated so you can run upstairs to escape enemies and not get mobbed by the newly generated enemies in the floor you ran to
2: you probably won't meet those caster enemies which are lightning bolting you and your allies to death
After that, or before, you should go to port kapul and do the quests to unlock the gene machine. Mainly for the one free additional monster ball you'll get which you can use to catch one of the better early game pets. Make sure to bring the gene machine back home afterwards.

>> No.43239213

I miss old elona threads with custom image OPs like you wouldn't believe

>> No.43239368

Is there a skill checklist I can double check so I don't have to subject myself to the fucking thieves guild again for a single skill?

>> No.43239375

>>43239368
The skill trainer page has a table listing all the skills and which trainers give them.

>> No.43240073

>>43239368
By the time you're worried about chasing down one final skill you should have a few scrolls of gain attribute.

>> No.43240226

>>43106470
So this is the power of discordfags...

>> No.43240340

>>43229720
Maybe he is playing Loss mode.

>> No.43240549

>>43239213
Be the collageanon you want to be

>> No.43241621

>>43229720
If you just walk straight into the puppy cave from Your Home there's a good chance that something in there will kill you. It's not immediately obvious to a beginner that the quickest way to become good at combat is walking people and trash across the continent and picking apples in Yowyn.

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>> No.43245156

Is riding useful? With how easy it is to raise speed with picnic baskets and stuff, I feel like there's not much of a point. Especially with the casting and accuracy penalties. Is it mostly an quick early game speed boost?

>> No.43245418

>>43245156
In my book, the main benefit is that it removes the multi-limb speed penalty (for both rider and mount).

>> No.43245480

>>43245418
Whoa good catch I never thought of it that way. How would that be set up? I'm assuming that I can just add a bunch of body parts to my character, but what about the mount? Can I just spam speed rings on him or does he need armor/resists as well?

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>>43243379
She wasn't always like this was she?

>> No.43247315

>>43245480
Everyone needs resists. And remember, pets can only hold 20 items, which includes equipped items.

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>>43241621
>It's not immediately obvious to a beginner that the quickest way to become good at combat is walking people and trash across the continent and picking apples in Yowyn.
No it's not. I played some more Elona last night and three characters got into a death spiral failing hunting job, geting robed by inland prates and spending whats left to eat drink and get my little girl back.
ty Anon
>>43232534
>You could try to avoid the puppy cave for now and just try and complete your first random lv 1 nefia you find in the overworld after stat grinding.
I'll try that with a new character.

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What happens to our guy Ruin0x11? He hasn't updated the github pages for more than 3 months.

>> No.43251034

>>43201193
I got the problem solved, but thank you for replying to me and trying to help.

>> No.43253001

What's the strat for AP?

>> No.43254685

>>43253001
Dive into the void

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>>43254685

>> No.43259273

>>43249777
Where does he usually hang out?

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>>43249497
TY to the old fags, I found the dog in the Puppy Cave but it died on the way home. I love this game.

>> No.43265534

elona is dead

>> No.43266713 [DELETED] 

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>> No.43266803
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>>43265534
Discussion will be revived when Elin come out.
Is there any plan for new demos by Noa?

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>> No.43274991

>>43077510
There’s a discord? Why would you ever create that.

>> No.43276004

>>43272679
Anyone got a guide for mount sprites?

>> No.43281950

>>43276004
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Custom_portrait#Character_Sprites

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>>43245779
Nah, she went coo-coo from all that ancestral arch-god blood running through her
I bet my left nut that she and Kumiromi still love each other though, despite the circumstance

>> No.43285362

>>43106163
>Came to the jay after some years to see if Elona threads still exist and this is all that's left, huh?
Same. Look how they massacred my boy

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>>43081962
The vaccine got 'em all...

>> No.43287257

ebona v rot

>> No.43287755
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>>43284038
Didn't miromi go insane too in his own way?

>> No.43287913

>>43285362
board got too fast man

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Is there a limit to how much stuff I can place on the floor in my cave?

>> No.43293188

>>43292775
yes, you can get more storage by either
>upgrading your house
>buying storage room/dungeon deeds

>> No.43293211

>>43293188
That's very good to know thank you.

>> No.43293234

>>43293211
forgot about the last way, which is adding floors to your home via staircases.
Just make sure you buy them in pairs

>> No.43293320

>>43293234
Haha that's pretty cool that you can do that.

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When I see a love heart above an npcs head and I get this message when I approach them, is that supposed to mean they are pleasuring themselves?

>> No.43295445

If only there was some way to know what those messages said.

>> No.43295586

Imagine speaking English

>> No.43295835
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>>43295445
None of these say masturbation. The sentence doesn't say "this person is masturbating". What is it about a language you can't read that makes you want to be an elitist like this?

>> No.43296644

>>43287755
Kumiromi was some kind of alien lifeform that gains some sanity upon meeting young Ehekatl, he presumably just reverted back to how he was without her
>Itzpalt left his wife for a younger girl causing her to become insane out of jealousy
>Mani is ruthless and killed Eythe to replace him
>Lulwy was a Mani's simp that got manipulated into killing Eythe and became heartbroken after Mani abandoned her
>Jure got a case of identity death
Somehow only Opatos is the only normal one, kind of

>> No.43296809

>>43294808
That or they're having the sex

>> No.43296879

>>43296644
What happened to Itzpalt's wife and Jure?

>> No.43296943

>>43296879
Itzpalt's wife kidnapped the younger girl's daughter and erased everything about her until even her own parents forgot about her. No one knows who she is, what she is or where she came from. Itzpalt's wife released her as the ultimate revenge after she has been imprisoned until she is mad. Jure was originally another Goddess, who has a sister. But she died and lose all memory of who she was. The trauma of her sister death also ensures that she will never want to remember what happened. She is now a new person without any of her previous (traumatic) memories

>> No.43297154

Elin demo released more info about the gods.

Itzpalt's wife was Odina, who died. Her reincarnation is Jure, after realizing this he's been getting better.

Mani is an atheist god lol

Eyth was tricked by Mani and Lulwy into breaking an ancient pact and was cast into the void

Two new gods, Elin and Yakasha

>> No.43300982

>>43293320
Do be aware that there is a limit of 400 item stacks in a map

More means they get destroyed starting from the oldest

>> No.43301380

>>43295835
Why would you assume the person is masturbating? The message just says they're busy. Maybe you should look around and see what they might be busy with.

>> No.43302003

>>43074890
I miss when it was slow enough for sound threads

>> No.43304705

>>43297154
wonder if there's going to be a quest to restore Eyth to his former glory

>> No.43305082

>>43304705
Doubt it. You start out as believing in Eyth of Void (not infidel) but you can't do any religious stuff.

>> No.43306928

The game kept turning the sound back on even though I changed it in the settings and it was changed in the config. I just renamed the sound folder in the install and now we're good.

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>> No.43314704

>>43314535
Man, so good.

I really hope that artworks come out alongside the kickstarter, help promote it a bit.

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>>43314704
Rueken's artwork or 001's?

>> No.43318440

>>43315865
All of it, desu. Even with the very limited demo people have made stunning builds. If Elin grabs people's creativity the same way Elona did I'm hoping to see lots of beautiful art.

>> No.43318539

>>43318440
I hope so too
That said, the eng twitter need to be more active and post things other than reddit posts

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>> No.43322524

I wonder how the plus changes in 2.18 are going to work out.

Having xp reduced to a quarter might mean I don't have to actively avoid basket and herb ins

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>play for 5 hours on and off
>forget and leave the game on while I go do something else

>> No.43326907

>>43325921
Yep, the game has quotes for leaving it running. Up to a whole day, I believe.

Also, hey, I've seen your deaths on the server elochat feed.

>> No.43327527

>>43322524
>actively avoid basket and herb ins
You can't "actively avoid" those things because the only way to get them is to create them yourself. You just passively avoid them by not creating them.

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>>43326907
Yeah I know, just thought those two looked good side by side. I'm not Annonith, I don't really bother writing death messages.

>> No.43338400

Anyone have a link to the Elin build or at least the old one.

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Are there any anons that have experience using magic equip? My gut instinct is that it's shit because I feel like you would lose more damage from failed spells then you would get from the spell modifier.

Also does anyone know why my pet's DV is so high?

>> No.43339994

>>43107341
>>43074890
Threads die on /jp/ from not having a post in 12 hours now?

>> No.43340723

How do people get up to date information about skills? For example, I heard from somewhere that having extra hands gives you more strikes as a martial artist, but others have said that it only gives accuracy. I don't know what is true. I also don't know how dual wielding works with 3 hands, etc.

>> No.43340897

>>43339095
High evasion skill.
>>43340723
If you're playing + you can just read the wiki and then skim the changelogs for the past year or two.
Better to just not worry about it though, Ano hates autistic minmaxing and penalized multihanding mutant exploits.

>> No.43341005

>>43340723
For Martial Arts, you get extra attacks by equipping gear with the "It increases the chance of an extra melee attack" enchantment. As long as all your Hand slots are empty, you can get up to 8 attacks total, but you'd need a lot of extra attack enchantments to pull that off regularly.
Also, extra Hand slots will, in fact, only give accuracy:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Changelog_(Elona%2B)/1.90_-_1.99#1.91

>> No.43341083

>>43339095
Cast chance with medium armour and warmage is 97%. Magic equip is +20% damage. Factor in that it applies to pets in medium armour as well and they have a cast chance of 95% regardless of equipment weight and it's even more of a no brainer.

WRT dv, what race is your pet? Some like quickling have extremely high dvmod.

>> No.43341087

>>43340897
Is dual-wield just gimped then? I heard that the skill only removes penalties instead of adding accuracy/damage.

>>43341005
Ahh I see, one of the old guides mentioned extra attack with extra hands. The changelog doesn't mention removing that, but I believe you when you say that all extra hands give is an accuracy bonus.

>> No.43341361

>>43341087
Getting additional attacks with more Hand slots is when you're using weapons rather than Martial Arts. I don't roll that way myself, so it's been years since I looked into it, but I think you can get up to four attacks per weapon; again, based on how much extra attack enchant power you have.
Anyway, tf you want to try it out, be sure to turn on the Custom-GX's "(Custom-G)" gameplay tweaks to revert Ano's bizarre, arbitrary nerfs. Definitely "Disable chain attacks", and probably "Apply skill buffs" and "Apply damage calculation buffs".

>> No.43341369

>>43338400
Which Elin? I got the alpha 9.10

>> No.43343198

Does anyone have a link for the discord? I hate to use it but I guess it's better than nothing since there's no more threads.

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>>43343198
Why not just make a thread yourself when you need it?

>> No.43344909

>>43325921
Who are you quoting?

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>>43341083
Having played a wizard years ago in vanilla is probably distorting my view. Casting always seems like a coin flip unless I have 100% cast rate.

As for my pet, it's the starter little girl. For some reason she has 50 DV if I take away all of her equipment. >>43340897 Effective evasion skill should be 26 based on information about enchantment magnitude from the wiki.

>> No.43346309

>>43345613
Vanilla has much steeper cast chance penalties for dual wielding and using a shield, 20 vs 5% in plus. By making pets warmages you can get them 100% cast chance regardless of equipment weight.

Little girls are rorans, I don't remember their dvmod offhand.

>> No.43347539

>>43344615
People keep saying the thread dies after a day. That's why.

>> No.43347714

>>43347539
This thread was created in March you absolute baka

>> No.43348108

>>43346309
Thank you kindly anon.

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>>43074635
All Elonafags have moved on to the much superior Mabinogi. Why? Because it's the same shit except you can't cheat like the little bitch you know you are

Plus I also think that Era games have stolen its outdated asses thunder

>> No.43348281

>>43344909
Noone.

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The full game better let me take up on his offer for pancakes

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Guess we're getting a flying casino

>> No.43358670

>>43356017
Looks better than the joints at Palmia or Derphy.

>> No.43358763

>>43358670
This one better have more games than just blackjack

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>>43347714

>> No.43364362

>>43341369
That's fine if your willing to drop a link.

>> No.43364518

>>43364362
Here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BXxcK0t1zkJFn-5mVaX93OabUFJKrVnO/view

>> No.43368950

>milk tea
It adds nothing but I still want it.

>> No.43370024

Kickstarter opens tomorrow, Anon.

How much will you be giving Noa-San?

>> No.43370111

>>43370024
Why is he doing a kickstarter anyways?

>> No.43371530

>>43348185
Mabinogi? Do you mean that shitty Nexon Korea slop mmo? Is there a different Mabinogi?

>> No.43371568

>>43370024
Depends on what the tiers are.

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Well this popped up
https://youtu.be/gFofs3XcnUU

>> No.43372817

>>43372727
>you're a hopeless freak aren't you snaily?

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>>43372817
why is he so racist towards us?

>> No.43373651

>>43372961
The 's' in "snail" stands for "suffering".

>> No.43374876

I'm excited.

>> No.43376077

Haven't played Elona in like 3-4 years and feel like starting a new run after finding out about Elin. Is the old Necro guide still viable for the current version of Plus?

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>>43074635
I finally got off my lazy ass and updated the Younger Sister Pack for version Custom-GX 2.15R. I also just found out the most recent version of Custom is 2.17. God damn it.
https://mega.nz/file/ZAp3BYgA#oXztJIzndUogS4EgmIN15SyG42dKMOIE5dIMVAl8wDM

>> No.43378215

>>43376077
Use undead fusion when needed, all the gods are better than dead-eyes. Consider keeping some of the weaker normal undead out at all times so you can fuse gods quickly.

>>43377683
Are you the original creator of the pack?

>> No.43378225

>>43376077
>>43378215
Also, you don't need to remodel every lich and dragon with eyes anymore since they already come with Control Magic.

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>>43378215
>Are you the original creator of the pack?
Yeah. I took a break from Elona+ a while back because I just wasn't finding that many new sprites to shove into the spritepack and I wasn't very good at actually drawing (at the time). I saw the new Elin trailer and felt a strong need to get back into Elona. If there's any I missed, do let me know.

>> No.43378611

>>43081547
IM JUST PLAYING CDDA AND POSTING ON /RLG/ SOMETIMES. GOT WAY TOO BURNT OUT ON ELONA+ AFTER SPENDING 1.5K HOURS IN IT. I'LL COME BACK IN THESE THREADS ONCE THAT EBIN COMES OUT

>> No.43378658

>>43378225
Since when?

>> No.43378871

>>43378505
It has been at least 6 years. I applaud your dedication.

>>43378658
Some version after 1.73.

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Is miromi a dude or a girl in this one?

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Kickstarter for Elin is already past 250%.

>> No.43381720

>>43381598
>Kickstarter for Elin
I hope someone bites the bullet and asks Noa to make Yacatect canon.

>> No.43382553
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>14 backers (or more) with 'wish to Creator'
Dear Eyth
>>43381720
>asks Noa to make Yacatect canon
There's hope

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>>43382553
Uh oh are we getting HIM in the game?

>> No.43382847

>>43381720
Haha,no
She's 100% ano's property

>> No.43382890

>>43382847
Maybe Ano's one of the backers

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>>43382847
If I can't have Yacatan-oneechan as my goddess, I at least want a God of Younger Sisters.

>> No.43383037

yacatect IS the best goddess
god I love money

>> No.43384658

>>43379404
elin miromi is elona kumiromi's sister, she died or something between elin and elona and elona kumiromi took her title ... I think

>> No.43385590

>>43384658
Doubt.

>> No.43390017

>>43384658
Who's the best boy now then?

>> No.43390353

We're hitting these stretch goals pretty fast

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>Wet-Tunic Contest

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>>43080154
we did it boys. slam dunk on the 1st day.

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>>43391323
I'm mildly surprised it's received such an extreme amount of support as it already has in a single day. Can't wait to play it on Steam at the end of the year.

>> No.43391966

If you had dosh, what would you wish for? I would probably go for 'wish for god' and make special Eyth altar/shrine zone that appears after X amount of floors in The Void

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>>43391966
Younger Sister mansion with a unique Younger Sister boss called <Youngest Sister> that drops a unique throwable weapon (Youngest Sister, which lets you throw the Youngest Sister) that has a chance to cause a unique variation of "It brings an End" but instead of spawning dragons and giants and shit, it spawns a ton of hostile, high-level younger sisters and special fire that turns NPCs into more younger sisters.

>> No.43392365

>>43391966
I'll probably be going with Well Drinker once that returns, and I'll be wishing for a new spell, but I cannot think of anything at the moment. Anyone got suggestions? I was thinking maybe a resistance lowering debuff, assuming they're willing to make one for every damage type. I wish I could wish for Morrowind style spell crafting but I imagine that'd be a Creator tier wish.

>> No.43392637

>>43391966
To be able to visit south tyris
that or make the survival extender also a thing

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Your response?

>> No.43393735

>>43393146
15% secondhand knowledge, 85% made-up gibberish. This retarded redditor has obviously never played any Elona game. For example, even if you just played for ten minutes you'd know that the little girl is a starting pet choice and that most towns have town children. Not to mention confusing the younger sisters in the younger sister house with the BioShock reference of the Little Sister.
For the rape part, I think the idiot's babbling about the dialogue system where generic dialogue (including the "little tail t'night" bit) wouldn't appear for quest NPCs. I'm pretty sure in Plus you could use the sleep sharing system to have forced sleep sharing with anyone and anything, though.

>> No.43395405

>>43392365
Nightmare and element scar already lower resistance, anon. You'd be wasting the wish.

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>>43391966
I'm using my creator wish to make a new goddess that appeals to all my fetishes, hopefully piggybacking off of Elin's popularity to get a steady flow of fanart of her.

>> No.43395852

>>43395691
And what kind of goddess would that be anon?

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>>43395852
I didn't think that far ahead, because some of them conflict.

>> No.43396234

>>43396157
Based retard.

>> No.43396441

>>43396157
Don't listen to Jamal over here >>43396234, anon. I'm sure you will figure out one way or the other.

>> No.43396544

>>43392637
South Tyris is already in the demo, Anon. The starting town, Mysilia, is in South Tyris. Tyris is now one big map.

>> No.43397358

>backers still demanding for more wish tiers and ether daggers
It's funny to see the game having a cult following and this being the closest thing to "merch" involving the game and IP

>> No.43397870

>>43396544
Well damn, guess I wish for more of them then

>> No.43401741

>a**s**p or a r****t
What did Noa mean by this?
App Shop?
Report?
Ape Shop?
Rapeit?

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>>43401741
airship & rocket

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>>43401838
>Elin: Dark Days Ahead
I want this.

>> No.43402203

>>43401883
having a mobile base mitebcool

>> No.43402233

>>43402203
I doubt it'll be a seamless world like in CDDA, but if it is I would LOVE to have the option to crash an airship full of explosives into the middle of a town. Go 9/11 on Palmia's ass.

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>>43391966
It'd be a lot of work, but I'd like something similar to pet evolution from E+. Even just temp transformation buffs a la shift cores would be cool.

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Guys can I be honest? I've loved Elona for ages and it's been a huge inspiration for me to work on game development myself, and I've been looking forward to Elin for ages, but this Kickstarter is really making me feel pessimistic.
>Game was supposed to be "Done" already, but the public alpha showed that it was in a very unfinished state. Tons of game breaking bugs that had to be fixed at this point
>No mention of a kick starter until now, making it feel like a sudden emergency decision
>Kickstarter making you buy your way into not just early access but THREE levels of early access (Alpha, Beta and "Early access"), when just one would already be questionable
>Paying for access to a "Private Discord channel" which sounds like complete cancer and will probably turn into a cancerous circle jerk at best, or will turn into a cancerous circle jerk that affects the game at worst if Noa actually listens to their bullshit
>The plethora of kickstarter backer created content which will no doubt be full of cringy self-inserts, OCs, and other garbage that will stick out like a sore thumb
>The number of backer related content will be from 75 different people, which is so much that it will probably outweigh the content in the actual game from what we've seen in the alpha

I'm glad Noa is finally receiving some compensation for all of his work, and I'm surprised that the game has received so much support because I honestly didn't expect it to get so much attention, but my usual skepticism with Kickstarter isn't helping.

>> No.43404354

>>43404075
>THREE levels of early access (Alpha, Beta and "Early access"), when just one would already be questionable
The fuck? Games having a series of alpha and beta builds is normal. Also, looking at their twitter, the idea of a kickstarter seems to have been in the works for a while now. At the very least, they announced it about a month ago, https://twitter.com/elocat/status/1644594917254246405
At least, that's the earliest post on noa's twitter I can find about any sort of kickstarter, but yeah it is pretty sudden. From what I understand, the main purpose of the kickstarter is so he can work on the game full-time rather than at the glacial-ass pace he's been working on Elin for the past decade or something.

>> No.43404379

>>43404354
>Games having a series of alpha and beta builds is normal.
Yes, but selling each of those stages as individual things you have to buy for increasing costs is not.
If you buy a lower tier package you get early access but not "Earlier" access. If you buy the higher tier package you get "Earlier" access but not "Earliest" access, You need to spend 8800 yen to get the actual early public release, which is stupid.
I already hate the idea of selling early access in a game, but splitting it up into multiple stages is just horrible. It especially doesn't help that it could easily be a very long time between alpha's release and beta's release, and between beta's release to whatever ""Early access"" is supposed to be.

>> No.43405090

>>43404075
The kickstarter is not particularly well planned, but that's not really worth worrying about. They are planning on adding a lot more wish backer slots (additional higher tier slots, plus new slots that are the wish tiers without physical rewards), which does have me worried, especially considering how 'powerful' they can be. On top of that, there is the possibility of 1 or more paid DLC's coming down the line. I feel like I got minorly monkey pawed on this.

>> No.43405160

>>43404075
>>43405090
I put $100 into it.

I don't give a fuck anymore. The last few years have been disappointing and people keep telling me to spend tenfold on gacha. Fuck all of them. I'll just spend $100 into this game and play the ultimate gacha: Noa's development cycle.

>> No.43405408

Has anyone tried playing Elona+ on the Steam Deck? Does it work well or even at all?

>> No.43406550

>>43402233
This but I wish for an air support special action if you were to have an airship kinda like blaster master

>> No.43406890

returning to elona after a long break, wow a lot has changed.
where can i find omake to dl?

>> No.43407126

also, can you crit with spells?

>> No.43407626

>>43406890
>>43129083

>> No.43409434

how do i uncurse stuff in omake?

>> No.43409661

>>43409434
Couldn't you just use a holy water?

>> No.43409761

>>43409661
you can use those? i should check the shop. but would holy water succeed where blessed scroll of uncurse failed?

>> No.43409894

>>43409761
If it's a doomed item, you need a vanish curse scroll. Otherwise, I think blessed holy water works too, but it's rarer since you can only draw water from the holy well in Noyel once a year or some shit. IIRC, if you worship Eyth, he can also turn bottles of clean water into holy water for free.

>> No.43409936

>>43409894
Oh! You could also just eat it, but expect to vomit and probably lose a skill point or something. I'm pretty sure scrolls of inferior material can let you turn cursed items into raw or candy equipment. At least, I'm pretty sure Elona lets you eat stuff you have equipped.

>> No.43410404

>>43409936
its faster to just start a new game. i barely finished the basement bandits so there is 0 progress to be lost.

>> No.43411436

Am I crazy or were you able to read spellbooks to pets before in Elona+ Custom?

>> No.43412063

>>43411436
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Special_action_(Elona%2B)#Reading_Party

>> No.43413171

>>43405090
I forgot where I read this - maybe somewhere on the Elin's Inn (what it was known as before just being 'Elin') subreddit - but Noa was for quite some time was quite resistant to the idea of a starting a patreon or kickstarter. He was particularly afraid of taking money from people when he wasn't sure when he would be able to release a 'complete' Elin, or if he was unable to complete it at all. But I think eventually someone from that subreddit or its Discord that was helping to publish any news on it managed to convince Noa to set up a kickstarter to help pay for the development of Elin, and here is where we are.

But yeah, the current Alpha is quite limited because the concept of Elin changed a few times as well. From Elin's Inn, a 'top-down game' similar to Elona where you run an inn but everything runs in real time, to an isometric 2.5D colony sim, to just what might've become 'Elona 2' where you are just an Adventurer but in the isometric 2.5D view, to the current build where it looks like the 'colony sim' elements from earlier were combined with the 'Adventurer' build.

>> No.43413433

Elin already got completely funded?
I wanted to buy a wish and get my girl's dog put into the game as an npc.

>> No.43413818

>>43407126
I don't remember you could

>> No.43413836

>>43413433
I mean there are still stretch goals that we haven't reached

>> No.43413896

>>43413836
Which ones does Noa plan on adding?
Most I wanted was Steam workshop support.

>> No.43414456

>>43413896
All of them?

That's how stretch goals work, anon.

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Moments like this is why I play this game

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New god lore is quite interesting desu

>> No.43414684

>>43414661
Digging the art, font, and parchment look.

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Ehekatl

>> No.43414782

>>43414684
Picking 001 as the artist for the game was a good decision

>> No.43414829

>>43414743
Now we wait for some madlad wishing for Ehekatl sis and adding her as a new god( of misfortune)

>> No.43415132

>>43405408
From what I've heard, Elona/+ and it's children can be a pain to run on the Deck, while Elin has no real issue at all.

>> No.43415280

>>43404075
Noa has final say on backer wishes, precisely because he doesn't want stuff that doesn't fit the lore, or their donut steels in the game

>> No.43415797

>>43415280
I don't know where this "done" stuff is coming from, noa is quoted as saying the release on Dec was just a tech demo, not even an alpha.

Doesn't matter, KS is up to 210k and climbing.

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Old Rentry anon back from my normal cycle of living in a hole to thinking about elona.

Seems since I left the threads have been having a harder time, GX/OpenNefia anon is MIA with no one able to contact him, Noa took over the fan discord for some reason, and now Elin has a kickstarter.

Shit I feel like Rip Van Winkle.

Well if anyone wants stuff added to the rentry pages outside of just updating the current plus just reply here and I will try to get to it before Elin+ comes out on steam workshop.

>> No.43419902

>>43414829
Ehekatl having a loli sister that carries a nuclear bomb on her back would be neat.

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That emergent storytelling.

>> No.43423745

If you missed last time, more well drinker tier slots will be releasing at 10 pm Japan time, anon.

>> No.43424351

>>43423745
Is he still adding more stretch goals?

>> No.43425044

>>43414661
Itzpalt is actually a kiwi.

>> No.43425078

>>43419902
Sentient nuclear putit bomb as a god pet

>> No.43426852

>>43423745
Looks like they sold out in under 30 mins.

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>>43415280
That's what developers always say on their Kickstarters, but inevitably some awful shit gets through one way or another. You have blatantly obvious cases like in Undertale where a Kickstarter backer's character was clearly unwanted, but clearly the developer couldn't actually remove said character anyways, or games like Colossal Kaiju Combat that had a huge amount of trouble because of overly stubborn furry backers.
I have very little idea of why this happens, but it's clear that Kickstarters saying "We can refuse content we don't like" doesn't give the creators complete control over what content gets added in. I've heard that there's a legal obligation to fulfill backer goals, so if a backer constantly demands their horrible content to be added in and refuses to backdown or accept compromises, the devs can't do anything about it. Basically the devs saying they can refuse lore unfriendly content isn't really true.

>>43415797
Elin was first planned to be in EA in late 2022 and released on April 2023. Then it was delayed so it would be in early access on April 2023. Now it's been delayed again so "Alpha Access" is planned for late 2023 with "Beta Access" being a couple months after that and "Early access" being a couple months after that.

Yes, as someone who has been eagerly waiting for Elin to be released I am upset.

>> No.43432408

New bread?

>> No.43432492

>>43429610
He's either rescaling this project because the kickstarter is a bigger success than expected or he's intending to draw this out to secure future spending.

>> No.43432908

>>43432408
We need a funny meemee for the new thread.

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>>43432908

>> No.43433255

>>43433043
Me second from left.

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