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>>45804228
Damn.

>>45796068
I have a feeling that Miko would have very little reasons or care to convert to Christianity, so I say never.

>>45811201
I think I can change that.

>>45796068
Not too hard since the Taoist in China liked Christanity and it's concept of Ascension/Deification and the everlasting immortal soul/spirit.
They also created the Jingjiao Documents which uses a lot of Taoist terminology.

>>45796068
Why do you want Miko to be converted to Christianity? and which branches of Christianity are you talking about?

>>45812298
>Why do you want Miko to be converted to Christianity?
Because I am one.
>and which branches of Christianity are you talking about?
Protestantism.

>>45812347
She probably wouldn't like Protestantism.
She'd most likely be intrigued by Oriental Orthodox Church and the Church of the East.

>>45812347
>Protestantism.
Fat chance. Miss order and deception is hardly going to like a faith that started with the rejection of lawful religious authority. That's very similar to Taoism in that sense.

>>45812347
You fucking faggot.

Miko is very hypocritical. I doubt she'd convert. What does it offer her she isn't getting better? Taoism made her immortal. Christianity doesn't offer anything near Taoist immortality. Sure you can become immortal but it's the shitty kind where you have to die and don't get to come back. The most likely thing is she'd just pretend to for temporal gain, or spread it while secretly staying a Taoist like she did with Buddhism, so if you consider someone who went through the motions of converting for personal gain to be a genuine convert sure.

>>45812475
Fine, fine. I’ll settle on oriental orthodoxy.

>>45812573
But Taoist immortality is only phycical albeit with super natural powers and you only have one chance at it in your life time. Similar in nature to ghosts rather than a deity but physical.
If one fails to achieve immortality the spirit of the body joins the universe after death and becomes part of the Tao. You lose sense of self after being absorb by the Tao.
Byakuren became immortal through demonic magic but it was still in line with traditional Taoist immortality.

>>45812648
Chang'e, Kaguya, Erin and the Lunarians are also Taoist immortals along with Tenshi and the Celestials and Mokou.
Toaist immortality can be made into potions so even if you don't practice Taoism you can still achieve immortality by drinking a said potion or serving under someone who is a practitioner of Taoism and preforms a ritual to make one immortal as a reward for serving them.

>>45812347
It sounds like you have an infatuation with Miko. But don't you know that Miko was... Well...

A guy? It's kinda gay

>>45796068
>How long
It depends. How long would it take to translate C. S. Lewis into japanese?

Miko is the one Touhou I can never find sexual under any circumstance.
She's either too cool (cape) or too goofy (capeless).

>>45812573
I could see Miko either converting large parts of the world to buddhism to control them or becoming one of those big pastors who run multiple mega churches across the planet without having an ounce of faith herself. I could see her corrupting scripture even more than it already is.

>>45826879
Nooo! Not my wife!!!!

>>45832109
Let's be honest, even if Miko is female she'll still end up the dominant husband of the relationship. And you'd be the wife, male or not.

>>45804228
Imagine slowly creeping from behind and violently squishing her butt making her scream from the impression. IMAGINE.

>>45833824
What is going on in that image?

>>45834033
It appears to be them at some kind of event or festival? (Judging from the banner uptop) And they tried to set some mini-fireworks like firecrackers and stuff for themselves, but didn't understand how they work so they just set them on fire. Miko and Futo assuming they did it correctly and thinking it's nice, while Tojiko being the only one that can tell this is probably not how it works.

>>45812347
>Because I am one.
Die.

>>45840317
Why?

>>45796068
why though

>>45844405
Because I'm a CHRISTIAN and I want a CHRISTIAN wife.

>>45812347
I'll level with you here. I don't think the bible has a specific rule against beating off to anime characters, but that's only because anime didn't exist back then. If people back then did what you're doing now then there would probably be a rule against it.

>>45844665
Then move onto another IP. Appreciate the character for who and what they are. This is like wanting to wife up Ran but also wanting to turn her into a tanuki because you prefer tanuki. If you want a christkek character to wife up try Alexander Anderson.

>>45848173
No, I don’t think I will.

>>45848878
>I don’t think
Yes you don't think very much, do you?

>>45855868
You're still crying? lol

>>45855868
I'm thinking about taking my Miko fumo to church.

as is always the case, the miko thread shall devolve into image dumping

>>45848173
There's plenty of transformation art depicting what you describe actually, it's pretty hot to see the computer get nooked

>>45796068

I feel you OP. I'm Muslim and I dream of my waifus being Muslim too

>>45881574
Funny enough Byakuren would probably be the one most likely convert to Islam. She already abstains from alcohol and doesn't eat pork or any other meat.

>>45880223
I appreciate Mikoposter guy for being the only reason these threads ever hit bump limits.

>>45883102
I'm impressed by his vast catalog of images but I also wish he'd say stuff more often
Nevertheless any bump on any thread that isn't a vt thread is a worthwhile bump

>>45881634
Ewww why would she convert to some random, violent desert religion? She's been a buddhist for far too long to convert to anything else.

>>45884242
Why would she follow some Indian poo religion that even the Indians don't really follow? They're mostly Hindus and even Sikhs. Buddhism is very low in its birthplace at only 0.7% of all of India.

>>45884242
Also Japanese Buddhist are very violent.
Look up the Sōhei and imperial Sōtō Zen Buddhism.

>>45883944
I speak when I think there is a conversation worth having.
Needless to say I don't think the current conversation of the thread is worth having.
If you ask for my stance on it anyway I'll say anyone who thinks Miko would consider becoming a Christian fundamentally does not understand her as a character. And leave it at that and only that.

>>45886030
She is a very pompous, terrible and selfish person and like Byakuren she uses her followers as servants.
She was willing to destabilize society to attain her goals.
She had a habit of manipulating others and quite hypocritically claiming wisdom where she had little and supports a literal necromancer that uses human fetuses as danmaku.
That said the current discussion is nothing more than amusing hypothetical situations and only presented in jest.

>>45796068
She wouldn't convert. She may be interested in use Christianity to control the population below her as she tried with Buddhism.

>>45886030
I know you haven't actually played any of the games before (LOL), but you couldn't be wronger than you are right now. Please stay in /v/ until you 1cc at least 3 games

>>45887526
Neat comment. It prompted me to redownload Ten Desires. And spend around one hour practicing with about two Continue runs for a bit before doing a quickie casual 1cc with Reimu. Beat it with one life and two bombs left. It was pretty fun so thanks.

Miko would convert you to Taoism before she even thought about converting to Christianity. If it doesn't let her live forever (on Earth, not maybe live forever in Heaven if you're good enough) she's not interested

>>45889532
She doesn't try to convert anyone to Taoism that's why she prompted Buddhism because it would be easier to control the population.

>>45889543
which really just puts into perspective how impossible it would be to convert her to Christianity

>>45890781
What do you know about Christianity?

>>45886146
>and like Byakuren she uses her followers as servants.
>Oh wait ackshually her followers do whatever the fuck they want under Hijri's nose and she has no control over them
People with the hijiri hateboner make no sense.

Chances are that Miko knew Buddha personally (who may or may not also be Christ). History can be wild, and there's so much that we don't know and probably won't know due to it being purposefully destroyed and hidden.
What's interesting to me, however, is exploring her possible Scythian ties. After all, Scythians were natural born aristocrats, given the right to rule by Heavens. Many early Chinese rulers were Scythian, who established the nation and gave people purpose, and most importantly - name. This includes many legendary figures, such as Buddha himself - again, Scythian.

>>45892705
Byakuren: I make the disciples do all the cooking, cleaning, and laundry by telling them it's for their training. It's to make my life easier.

– Antinomy of Common Flowers, Joon's Scenario

Uh oh...Taishi-sama! We'll pay your bail!

>>45893441
To be fair In some religious institutions, it is not uncommon for members to volunteer for various tasks, including chores and maintenance work. For example, some churches form groups to handle groundskeeping chores like cleaning gutters and pressure washing sidewalks. There also are perspectives within Christianity that view housework as an opportunity for humble service, stewardship, worship, and sanctification in daily routines. This happens in the east too. Monks do all sorts of tasks. Wouldnt be surprised if Hijiri did the very same thing alongside her brother when she was young.
>>45893151
(who may or may not also be Christ).
Its more that Christ is a blatant rip off of the Buddha since the Buddha predates him by a good 500 years. Some even speculate that Christ was a buddhist himself. Would explain that large parts of the bible rip off Buddhist scripture.

>>45893783
>Would explain that large parts of the bible rip off Buddhist scripture.
You do know it's the other way around correct? A lot of that was Buddhists taking stories of Christ and incorporating it into Buddha same for the Hindus with Vishnu. All of those similarities popped up in the 17th century.

>>45893783
To further drive this point.
Buddhism is very well known for incorporating foreign gods and concepts into it.
A good example would be Hercules.
As Buddhism expanded in Central Asia and fused with Hellenistic influences into Greco-Buddhism, the Greek hero Heracles was adopted to represent Vajrapāni.
In Japan, Vajrapāni is known as "the head vajra-wielding god" (執金剛神 Shukongōshin), and has been the inspiration for the Niō (仁王, Benevolent Kings), the wrath-filled and muscular guardian gods of the Buddha, standing today at the entrance of many Buddhist temples under the appearance of frightening, wrestler-like statues. He is also associated with Acala (不動明王 Fudō-myōō); the mantra for Fudō-myōō references him as the powerful wielder of the vajra.
Vajrapani is the protector and guide of the Buddha Sakyamuni.
The war deity Kartikeya, who bears the title Skanda is also a manifestation of Vajrapani, who bears some resemblance to Skanda because they both wield the vajra and are portrayed with flaming halos. He is also connected through Vajrapani through a theory to his connection to Greco-Buddhism, as Wei Tuo's image is reminiscent of the Heracles depiction of Vajrapani.
It's the same for China and the reason why in the West, Buddha is seen as some fat Chinese guy laughing which is in reality a Chinese god of fortune.

>>45893783
>Its more that Christ is a blatant rip off of the Buddha since the Buddha predates him by a good 500 years.
I think you're just retarded anon.
>Some even speculate that Christ was a buddhist himself.
Yeah, retards who know nothing about Christianity.


I think Miko would be easy to convert to a highchurch denomation, probably catlicks.

>>45894453
Catholicism'd be a good pick because of her desire to control people and whatnot. She could probably talk her way into at least becoming an archbishop if not a cardinal. Sure, this may defeat the purpose of even converting her in the first place, but think about it; the more she studies Christianity, the more she socializes with other members of the clergy = the more she realizes that Taoism as a religion is a bunch of schizophrenic gobbledygook.

>>45893722
What is she hiding there? And why does she want it buried so desperately...?!

>>45894132
>>45894453
>>45894517

>>45895817
What did he mean by this?

>>45796068
An eternity because based Miko will switch to the superior Judaism ASAP

>>45897334
She'd have to marry a jew to become a jew.
They don't really take non-jews and even if you get accepted won't really be considered a jew.

>>45899790
Guess Canaanite tribalism it is, the superior precursor

>>45889517
And now I've done it with Marisa, yay for me. Sanae and Youmu left now.

>>45894453
I was skeptical at first when I read that but I looked into and it's true. The Buddha does predate christ by quite a few centuries.
>>45897334
Miko "converting" then outjewing the jews and controlling them and by proxy controlling all of christendom is the most miko thing miko can do.

>>45913591
>by proxy controlling all of christendom
Orthodox and the Eastern Churches don't care for the jews. That is more modern Protestants and Catholics.

As for the buddha it is common knowlege that he is older than Christ but it is blatantly untrue to say that Christ copied buddha or was a buddhist.
Now gnosticism was influenced by buddhism and the buddha.
Gnosticism was just early Christianity mixed with Buddhism, Zoroastrianism and Arabian folk religions.
Many Gnostic texts deal not in concepts of sin and repentance, but with illusion and enlightenment.

Buddhism, from its earliest days, has denied the existence of the "self, soul" in its core philosophical and ontological texts. In its soteriological themes, Buddhism has defined nirvana as that blissful state when a person, amongst other things, realizes that he or she has no self, no soul.
It's when you realize you don't exist and that you(self) and reality are just an illusion.

The term anattā or anātman refers to the doctrine of "non-self", that there is no unchanging, permanent self, soul or essence in living beings.

>>45913591
Does Buddha predate Christ? Yes. Does that mean Christ is a ripoff of him? No.
This is a chronological snobbery argument with no evidence to substantiate it. I think you should attend a couple online sermons and do some more research into theology before you try and make such retarded assumptions, retard-kun.

>>45909023
And now the Sanae clear.

>>45913843
Buddhism makes more sense when you think of it as some Hindu Heresy. the Atma-Brahmin is in direct Oposition to buddisth Anatta (or it should be said, Anatta is a direct rebellion on the Ātman)

>>45915493
And I got the Youmu clear. With this my replay with all characters is done. Very fun.

>>45894517
>the more she socializes with other members of the clergy = the more she realizes that Taoism as a religion is a bunch of schizophrenic gobbledygook.
The more she interacts with them the more she realizes how easily she can manipulate those retards. Also worshipping a dead jew on a stick and metaphorically eating his flesh and drinking his blood is pretty schizophrenic.

>>45923519
Thinking something came from nothing is schizophrenic. Hope you find God later in life

>>45923519
>Also worshipping a dead jew on a stick
back to /pol/ with you.

>>45923519
I love that Christanity makes you throw an impotent temper tantrum.

>>45923519
>"metaphorically"
uhh boy, you're in for a surprise

>>45923519
>metaphorically
Never been to mass, have you?

>>45796068
Miko's a greedy asshole so it'll take more than you're expecting.

>>45932241
I love that someone can say that phrase and it instantly triggers you guys.

>>45935520
Says it again but this time without sobbing.

>>45936253
>Says it again
What?

>>45936586
That's the spirit!

>>45914098
>Does Buddha predate Christ? Yes. Does that mean Christ is a ripoff of him? No.
This is a chronological snobbery argument with no evidence to substantiate it.
There is no evidence if you're a clueless christkek. The teachings of the Buddha and Jesus are eerily similar. Things like non attachment to worldly things/objects, compassion, forgiveness and other teachings. Add to that Buddhist lore having events or characters doing things later seen in Christian literature. Like Bodhisattva's rising in and out of hells to help the inhabitants. Or the Buddha dealing with someone trying to hinder his spiritual progress with temptation and then overcoming that temptation. When you take the chronology thing into account this all looks very suspicious. Imagine if some clown tried to sell you on his original story called "Bouhou Project" with the titular character named "Rheamu" who is an air headed, greedy Christian exorcist that mercilessly kills demons and runs get-rich-quick schemes. You'd call that guy out for being a lazy hack.

>>45952932
>There is no evidence if you're a clueless christkek
Ad hominems already? Nice
>non attachment to worldly things/objects, compassion, forgiveness and other teachings
These are values commonly shared between almost all religions.
>Add to that Buddhist lore having events or characters doing things later seen in Christian literature. Like Bodhisattva's rising in and out of hells to help the inhabitants. Or the Buddha dealing with someone trying to hinder his spiritual progress with temptation and then overcoming that temptation.
Correlation does not equal causation. I also don't see you citing any actual verses which proves my previous assumption that you're an athebro with an extremely elementary understanding of the NT.
>Imagine if some clown tried to sell you on his original story called "Bouhou Project" with the titular character named "Rheamu" who is an air headed, greedy Christian exorcist that mercilessly kills demons and runs get-rich-quick schemes. You'd call that guy out for being a lazy hack.
This is a poor analogy.
Overall, I don't think having this conversation is worth the effort. You have a very elementary understanding of Christian theology and your entire argument can be refuted by citing the fact that correlation does not equal causation.
God bless

>>45959714

>>45952932
Yep, that's right. Be quiet and stay quiet.

>>45952932
Buddhism is not about preservation and understanding.
Enlightenment (or, the state of being fully awake) is defined as having a completely empty head, your mind being an endless void.
A person who has attained the goal Nibbana is thus indescribable because they have abandoned all things by which they could be described". The Suttas themselves describe the liberated mind as 'untraceable' or as 'consciousness without feature', making no distinction between the mind of a liberated being that is alive and the mind of one that is no longer alive.
Enlightenment is a destructive process. It
has nothing to do with becoming better, preservation or being happier. Enlightenment is the crumbling away of untruth. It's seeing through the facade of pretence. It's the complete eradication of everything we imagined to be true.
Achieving the state Enlightenment causes the individual to quite literally lose any sense of self, it's hard to even call someone who has become Enlightened an actual individual.
Buddhism calls internal dialog “Chattering Monkey” and tells us that silencing this voice is the first step on the path to enlightenment (nirvana).
Buddhism casts shade on farmers, merchants, tradespeople, etc. It doesn't say these people will go to hell, but it does spend enough time saying they're wasting their lives and if they were "really" good they'd stop all that nonsense.
Anyone doing anything of material value is effectively compromising their spirituality.
Japanese Buddhism can barely even be considered Buddhism at all. It's basically a polytheistic religion that worships many gods and buddhas/bodhisattvas in hopes of attaining enlightenment or being reborn in a higher realm (heaven, for example). Japanese Buddhism and Shinto has basically merged into one giant cultural religion. Kami are reinterpreted as devas and vice versa. There's a reason that the vast majority of the Japanese people perform Buddhist funeral ceremonies over Shinto ones.
Buddha never taught Pure Land Buddhism. Prior to the development of Pure Land Buddhism, the only way to enlightenment lay through an arduous path of study and practice that was out of reach for most people.
The Mahāyāna scriptures were composed in a variety of disparate social and religious environments over the course of several centuries, diverge widely from each other in content and outlook, and were in many cases meant to stand as individual works representing rivals to the entire Hīnayāna corpus.
The Ekottara-agama also contains various unique passages on buddhānusmṛti and states that buddhānusmṛti can lead to the unconditioned, nirvana, as well as magic power.

>>45796068
How do you plan on converting Miko when she has proof that Taoist immortals exist and following Taoist teachings let you become one?

>>45975168
That plus the fact that it's possible to go to Heaven without dying first.

>>45975168
>>45975242
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>>45970291
Maybe I'm the dumb apprentice who doesn't get it but if the goal of Buddhism is to destroy the ego and break free of this world, then wouldn't the seeking of knowledge of oneself and the world just fed into the ego and prevent that? If one needs to understand the world to break free of it, and to be free means to have no mind, then wouldn't trying to understand mean you can't do it? It's like saying you eat when you're hungry, so to understand what it means to be hungry you must always eat.

>>45970291
>The Mahāyāna scriptures
To be fair, Byakuren did not practice the Mahayana branch of Buddhism in her lifetime.

>>46019709
She practiced Shingon Buddhism. Important Mahāyāna sutras in Shingon include the Lotus Sutra, the Brahmajāla Sūtra and Heart Sutra.

A joyous day.

>>46038615
Indeeed.
Happy Birthday my beautiful princess!

>>46038615
Happy Birthday, Taishi-sama!
Every year you become more beautiful, more kind and more my adoration.
Thanks for being born!
(and of course, arigatou syurii22-chan!)

Mikobros...

>>46045045
When is someone going to kill this horrible traitorous nun?

>>45991550
>then wouldn't the seeking of knowledge of oneself and the world just fed into the ego and prevent that?
Depends. Knowledge seeking could actually starve the ego or even break it. Think of the dunning kruger effect. The less someone knows the bigger their ego because they think they know it all. Contrast that with someone who does know a lot more, so much more that they know that they're only scratching the surface of whatever it is that they know. A good example would be physics. The more a student learns the more he realises just how little scientists actually know and just how much there is to know. This is very humbling. So if you have a practice dedicated to combating the ego then the knowledge therein will humble you. Adnd know you are not a dumb apprentice, the question was a good one.

>>45796068
Whatever you do, don't have them convert to (((American))) Christianity. They'll just end up being a Christcuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2_p_qwIyZ4

I made some porn of the Prince the other day.

I'm sorry.

https://files.catbox.moe/7qt0d2.jpg

>>46082812
>I
>made

Do you think Miko would squeal like a girl and beg you to stop when you rape her as she loses all pride and dignity, or go into denial that a mere commoner and mortal human could ever rape a taoist immortal prince?

>>46090254
Neither. She'd be the one raping you.

>>46090254
She'd beg you to rape her in the first place.

Post busty miko

>>46090254
Taishi-sama probably would destroy your pelvis. She's a girl you do not mess with!
Except for praising her...

>>46091986
No can do.
Taishi-sama's breasts are meant to be small or at most medium sized.
She doesn't need big milkers to be a charming princess

Is she trans? Why or why not?

>>46100298
Canon transgender lesbian yes, it's the only way to reconcile her historical personage with the 2hu one.

>>46100298
get back to /lgbt/
tenkyuu.

>>45796068
>Converting Miko to Christianity
Just no. She might lose touch with her ancestors on the other side. Consider the case of based Ratbod, King of the Frisians.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratbod,_King_of_the_Frisians
It is said that Radbod was nearly baptised, but refused when he was told that he would not be able to find any of his ancestors in Heaven after his death, since he preferred spending eternity in Hell with his pagan ancestors than in Heaven with his enemies, especially the Franks.

Never, she's too busy competing with Byakuren.

>>46101014
>since he preferred spending eternity in Hell with his pagan ancestors than in Heaven with his enemies
>especially the Franks
you know, considering how at that time the idea of salvation was everything to western society, it takes balls, each one bigger than the sun, to actually say that and go through it

Hail king Ratbod, his ancestors smile upon him now and forever

>>46116901
>it takes balls, each one bigger than the sun, to actually say that and go through it
No he's just stupid.
>Hail king Ratbod, his ancestors smile upon him now and forever
Sorry to break it to you anon but him and his ancestors are 99.99999% burning in hell right now regretting everything they ever did.

>>45796068
She would likely view Christianity the same way she canonically views Buddhism.

>>46101014
>>46116901
I have such respect for him, damn. Yeah Miko would probably do the same thing.
>>46117003
Oh so his ancestors, people who couldnt possibly have known about christianity because it never existed or was in their purview at that time, are allegedly burning for for no reason! Got to love primitive desert religions!

>>46134459
Seething reddit-tier atheist can't look beyond the surface on this issue. Yes, they're burning in hell. Yes, that's why we should spread the gospel to save who don't know about Christianity.

>>46100298
Miko isn't a tyranny, Miko is a Trump allegory. Just my kind if president! https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Alternative_Facts_in_Eastern_Utopia/Article_and_Interview/Toyosatomimi_no_Miko#Article_2

>>46138014
I forgot that certain words were censored but the use of "tyranny" as a replacement for the one I had in mind is perfect.

>>46134459
You've been crying a lot in this thread.

>>46135089
>Seething
How old are you? You really shouldn't talk about religion when your balls haven't even dropped yet, child.

I'm currently developing a miko game.

Your party members are all shrine maidens.

Christianity is the enemy of the game series. You learn japanese grammar in the game!

Hope to have it release this december

>>46134459
>>46135089
Didn't Jesus literally go to Hell at one moment to save those unbaptised?

>>46138518
>jrpg
>Christianity is the enemy of the game
So you're going to kill the jewish desert god at the end. Continuing the long tradition of killing god. Sounds good! I like the part about learning japanese as well. Be sure to keep us updated. Hell maybe make a thread for this game specifically although with how shitty gaypee is nowadays it might get drowned out so maybe add in a hot bitch for the thread's image to attract people. Can you talk about the game in greater detail? Also I read Miko and given the thread I was really hoping that this would be a Taishi-sama game...

>>46138631
>Can you talk about the game in greater detail?

You get a religious activities visa letting you move to Japan religiously the Kannushi left the shrine on errands and put Lady Mitsuri in charge of the shrine. Your friend Maki is the shrine maiden on staff at Mitsuri Shrine. During the Kannushi's absence, a monster Oni appeared at the Shrine! What's causing the monsters to appear? Why are they weak to japanese? All your questions will be answered with the game's release.

>>46138695
>All your questions will be answered with the game's release.
Nice! I'll be waiting patiently!
>Why are they weak to japanese?
It's sheer complexity is enough to cause damage!

>>46138703
did you ever play Kuon? That should be on your hit list. It's the first FROM Software souls title on the released dimension

>>46138631
>>46138493
>>46134459
Hey, Jesus loves you, you know. Taishi-sama would 100% want you to convert.

>>46138493
What a childish response
Very chuuni

>>46141922
NTA but I always see zoomers use that word. Amongst all the other buzz words nowadays..

>>46138631
>So you're going to kill the jewish desert god at the end.
Someone doesn't know enough about Christianity. You cannot kill an eternal, omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient god.

>>46174534
jobbed to iron chariots

>>46174563
Mistranlation and a meme argument not even atheists use anymore.
וַיְהִי יְהוָה אֶתּ־יְהוּדָה
And the LORD was with Judah
וַיֹרֶשׁ אֶת־הָהָר
and he took possession of the hill [country]
...כִּ֣י לֹא לְהוֹרִישׁ אֶת־יֹשְׁבֵי הָעֵמֶק
but he could not drive out those living in the valley...
Judges 4:15 describes how God “routed” the Canaanite commander, Sisera, and his 900 iron chariots.
Judges 1:19 isn’t saying God failed to drive out the Canaanites in the plain. The pronoun “he” in this verse refers to the nearest proper noun, or the tribe of Judah. It was Judah who took possession of the hill country but failed to secure the plains. The Lord was “with Judah,” but that doesn’t mean Judah accomplished all their goals.
Ultimately, the book of Judges reveals that God keeps his promises to us even when we break our promises to HIM. That’s why in the next chapter in Judges, after the defeat of other tribes is described, God says “you have not obeyed my command. What is this you have done? So now I say, I will not drive them out before you; but they shall become adversaries to you”. (Judges 2:2-3).

>>46174563
jobbed to archangel michael

>>46174623
>This level of mental gymnastics
if an all mighty god is backing you up, and you cannot, someone is lying to you.
>"They have God on their side, we have tanks"
>>46173825
>You cannot kill an eternal, omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient god.
adonai is pretty much nothing of those, he originates from a very obscure politheistic pantheon to begin with. did you know god had a wife at some point? yeah, she got retconned, like the rest of the pantheon
>>45796068
One can bet Miko would see christianity the same way she would see any other theistic religion: "oh, a god claiming to be all-powerful? never heard of those before... what tea should I take now?"

>>46174534
I know your fanfiction well...What you dont know is that your hebrew god was once an obscure thunder god in a greater pantheon of gods. >>46174563
>jobbed to iron chariots
Essentially. This and other little details pretty much confirm that the jewish god isnt what judeo-christians think he is. Sure there might be statements about his alleged power coming from clueless people who were making up their own headcanon but they fall apart when you see what actually happens in the story. The ''but he could not drive out those living in the valley...'' is very telling. Alongside other things like an alleged omnsicient being being bound by petty emotions like jealousy. ''you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God...'' folks here cannot think abstractly enough to understand that an all-knowing being should not be acting like this at all. Literally ass hurt that a lot of humans wont give him the validation he craves so badly. There are fucking humans, small in number they may be, who have moved passed feminine emotions like jealously with sustained effort. The enlightened beings of eastern religions who feature far, far more prominently than yahweh in EASTERN Project (which is essentially Touhou Project for any tertiary christians reading this) act much more like an all knowing being...
>>46174658
So I guess Arch-angle Mikey is stronger than his own hebrew god? Lol assuming what you said is true. If you had a brain cell to share with other judeo-christians in this thread you may or may not begin to see problems here my friend...

>>46178418
>>46177654
Samefag
>>46174623
See this. You're just ignoring that post because it perfectly debunks your reddit-tier argument.
>Alongside other things like an alleged omnsicient being being bound by petty emotions like jealousy. ''you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God...''
Have you ever heard of a metaphor...? There are quite literally no problems in the bible that the Church hasn't clarified on before. Sorry anon but you can't destroy 2000 years of theology with your r/atheism arguments.

>>46178418
>>46177654
Also TA but I love how you're acting so smug while using reddit arguments that can be debunked with a quick google search.

Now the real question. Jesus vs Miko in a straight up brawl. No miracles or outside help. Who wins? I'm going with Jesus on this one. The man singlehandedly threw out all the merchants from the temple so he's no slouch in a fight.

>>46177654
>>This level of mental gymnastics
That would apply to you
>if an all mighty god is backing you up, and you cannot, someone is lying to you.
If read in context instead of cherry picking you would see iron chariots don't stop him.
But if you prefer to be deliberately obtuse that's fine if it helps you cope.

>>46178462
>Samefag
Anyway, I won't give arguments any longer, owning and baiting theistic fags doesn't fulfill me like it did in the past, besides, /jp/ AKA /2hu/ should be the last places for that

>>46179211
>Anyway, I won't give arguments any longer, owning and baiting theistic fags doesn't fulfill me like it did in the past, besides, /jp/ AKA /2hu/ should be the last places for that

No it's because you lost the argument and you're too afraid to admit it.

>>46178462
Theologians have spent a long time arguing that the Bible doesn't mean what it says.

>>46178618
Those two would never fight, they would just sit down for tea. Now, we know that Jesus's daddy is a little bit haughty, and may insult some poor young lady's fashion sense...

>>46179517
You left-wing leaning phoneposter, did you put that together all by yourself just for this thread?

>>46179683
Not for this thread, no, just saw the opportunity to show it off to my fellow /jp/sies, newbie, with your big boy 'oldfag' words such as reddit, left-wing leaning, phoneposter, and the like
also leave Miko alone, she's not interested in your death cult religion

The power of friendship...

>>46179843

>>46179311
That's just the Jesus is Zeus argument from idiots like you. Who can't into critical thinking. And think everything is literal and don't look at context.
Above came about because from Die Hard with a vengeance.
When the main character heard someone say "hey, Zeus" to another character and then thought his name was the Hispanic Jesus.
Or that Christanity is Sun worshipping because Son sounds like Sun.

>>46179816
>death cult religion
Nobody was talking about Buddhism

>>45796068
until the ouroboros stops biting it's own tail, and then some
have you considered finding a way to overcome your apparent intolerance towards other religions?

>>46180756
There are no "other religions". There is religion and there is being wrong.

>>46180249
>>46180518
You're still crying?

>>46180922
>>46180518
If you look closer Miko's burning a temple not a church

>>46177654
Why on Earth are you replying to me. I already said, I don't see any worth in any of this childish spat. Keep me out of it.

>>46181684
Also alternate facial expression.

>>46180922

>>46184754
I wonder how the taoist faction feels in regards to China burning down taoist temples and artifacts and getting rid of the 4 olds.

>>46185005
Ever noticed how China has a huge problem with fire?

>>46185176
Must be because China is still destroying taoist temples.

>>46185216
Not only that, but the chinese are also notorious for using horrible materials for building shit, they are practically begging for a certain pyromani- zealous crusader to pay a turistic visit

The desires... too strong...! Are Futo's legs really THAT sexy...?

>>46185368
Futo is a plate.

This is a Miko thread, not a Futo thread.

>>46185176
There was a minor mistake that I fixed (I know, they are almost the same pic, but my perfectionist ass compelled me to do it)
>>46206289
You can be a taoist and a buddhist at the same time

>>46212051
Futo: Become ungovernable

>>46212051
>That white line
Sorry, the actual good one

>>46212067
If it isn't the just and good government that the Tao provides (fuck you legalism, you lawful evil piece of shit!), Futo does what needs to be done

>>46212100
Would the Crown Prince grant me Futo's hand in marriage?

>>46212108
Futo is a very happy and independent hermit, she won't marry you, but will gladly teach you the ways of the tao

>>46212697
You have to get Futo drunk and then have lots of impregnating sex with her so she's required to marry you to avoid disgrace, I see.

>>46212697
But I want to marry Futo! I wanna, I wanna, I wanna!

This is a Miko thread, not a Futo thread.

>>46213187
The Scarlet Police has been noticed about your post, anon!
>>46215084
Being immortal reduces your desire for romance, anon, you will get it when Futo makes you a cool hermit like her! Maybe even a celestial in time!
>>46215712
You can have both! After all, they are practically sisters at this point (Tojiko too!)

>>46220384
No you can't, go make your own Futo thread

Swimming with Taishi-sama!

>>46220733
Getting carried away and surfing with her too!

>>46220739
>>46220733
miko looks so hot in that outfit

>>45812347
>Protestantism
Anon.....

>>45796068
>How long would it take to convert Miko from Taoism to Christianity?
I think the real question is how long would it take for her to convert Christianity to Miko because you just know she would set herself up as a prophet or immortal saint destined to lead the masses. Miko is not a follower, she doesn't go to church, she becomes the church.
>>46179517
>Those two would never fight
It's Gensokyo, it would be rude not to. Refusing to shoot on sight is the equivalent of refusing a handshake. Neither would be so impolite.

>>46138518
Any updates so far, anon-kun?

>>45796068
Im not a Mikofag and even I know that she would never convert, anon.

Stop trying to romance Miko! He's for being bros with only! BROS ONLY!

>>46263091
So I can cuddle with my bro? Or hold my bro's hand? Or kiss my bro? Or wrestle with my bro. Bros do that all the time.

>>46272286
If you are kissing your "bros" all the time, I think they might have ulterior motives for your relationship, anon.

>>46276664
They're just training for when they actually meet up with chicks, Anon. It's fine. Bros have to prepare themselves beforehand.

I saw his dick. Quite tiny.

Sumerian religion is where it's at.
Miko would go for Enlilism which is what Yahwism plagiarised via the Amorites of Canaan after the Hebrews displaced them at the end of the Sea People insurrection which destroyed the Hittite Empire and caused the Ramessids to abandon south Canaan during the Philistine era.
If Miko needed a Christ figure she would use the original one which is Tammuz, who was originally named Martu in Sumerian as he was the eponymous god of the Amorites, who they called the Martu and who were called in the Semitic pig language of the Akkadians as the Amurru.

>>46276664

Nah clearly they are just Anon's Bros......

>>46278180
lol someone is taking Alexander Hislop too serious.

>>46278795
Who is Alexander Hislop?

>>45812695
Bruh what? I mean if you wanna go all in on potions sure,but Eirin and Kaguya are lunarians,and Eirin used Kaguya's unique properties to make the Reiyaku, it didn't have anything to do with either of them being Taoist.

>>46278942
The guy that made up all those claims back in 1853.

>>46278963
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Emperor

>>45913591
Being older doesn't mean anything, the middle east was a long way from China and India, it would take days of driving now to get from Egypt to India,can you imagine how many months of walking it would take to reach it back then? Would probably be literal years.

>>45932275
>>45932241
It's tell-tale pol, they're obsessed with jews,and think people are really going to go back to worshipping storm gods or whatever because they're "white". I guess they forgot that the height of European power was when society was more religious.

>>45952932
None of that is true, Jesus advocated doing the will of God above all else, Buddhism doesn't even care if God exists. Also, all the Christian things were added in the 500s-1500s as Buddhism was warped in China and Japan,and Zen Buddhism was invented.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR2k2kEChOo

Listening to girls whisper the Bible in japanese is really soothing.

>>46212051
>You can be a taoist and a buddhist at the same time
No, you literally can't. That's like saying you can be a Buddhist and a Hindu at the same time.
They're just incompatible
>>46212697
>will gladly teach you the ways of the tao
No, she'll instead teach you Buddhism so that you may be mislead away from the Taoist secrets to immortality

>>46278989
Oh right you're an idiot.
Chaldeans are not the same as Sumerians, retard.
Nobody had heard the name Enlil for thousands of years when Hislop was alive and most Sumerian literary works were still being translated for the first time since the Iron Age in the 20th century.

>>46278991
I mean, I was just saying that Kaguya had unique properties and that was how Eirin made the elixir. I've hard of the Jade emperor,but it seemed to me to be Chinese people modeling Heaven on their society, a bunch of bureacrats-yes really-and an emperor at the top. A way to say it was divine and mandated. How would the Chinese feel about pagan things like Ambrosia and Nektar in Greek Mythology,or the Philosopher's stone? Would they be taoist?

Someone clear this up for me: Is Miko an actual immortal?
I was under the impression she is, like she died and been reborn into it. She's as immortal as Celestials, or Hourai drinkers.
There's also the case of Futo who I guess is immortal but apparently not in the same way. More akin to a Lich (No physical body, soul is stored in a plate)

Seiga on the other hand is still a "hermit" afaik. She cheated death by faking it, and thus isn't actually immortal and can be killed.
IDK how well all this tracks but that was the gist of what I understood.

>>46279048
Love the impotent dismissal.
you're grasping at straws.
Your sources are atheists using Hislop's arguments while ignoring none of that is true. Same with Washington Irving and the flat earth myth.
Tammuz is connected to Adonis but not Christ. If you actually looked at your claims instead or regurgitating r/atheism talking points you'd know none of that is true.
Now why would Adonis be Tammuz?
The Greeks migrated to the Balkans from the Middle East, namely from Phoenicia. This is shown by the discrepancies between the writing systems used. We have Linear A which is similar with the Vinca symbols, then we have the emergence of Linear B which is similar to runes but then about 400 years from the Bronze Age collapse and migrations, we get the Greek Alphabet which is closer to Phoenician Alphabet than to Linear A or B.

>>46279009
>A Christian judging another religion for getting "warped" and changing over time.
Honestly, seems to me that god can't make up his mind on how he wants to be worshipped.
Just remember that if you do it wrong and pick the wrong flavor you burn in Hell with the rest of the infidels.

>>46279105
Wtf diffrent branches of the same thing but interpreted differently?
Thats never happened before!

>>46279105
>Just remember that if you do it wrong and pick the wrong flavor you burn in Hell with the rest of the infidels.
That's not necessarily true. That kind of belief is normal only between Christian sects with very serious deviations from the texts, eg. Jehovah's Wittnesses, or when you get the smaller fundie Christian sects who refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of any other kind of worship. The more common attitude is that they're astray and may or may not be jeopardising their souls by worshipping wrong, but not automatically damned. Some Christians will even go as far as extending it to Jews as well, though there's a little too much bad blood between Christianity and Islam for that to happen mostly. Astray, not unsaved.
also even being a pagan doesn't necessarily damn you in most branches Christianity, you can be a completely virtuous pagan and possibly be accepted into Heaven, but it's not as easy as if you had guidance, baptism, and repentance to help your path.

>>46101014
Never got this argument,if hell is real why would you choose to go there? If my female relatives went off to India and got gang-raped, I wouldn't be like, gee guess I better go to jail to get the same experience!!!

Of course, some denominations don't believe in hell, and I tend to think hell is annihilation-ism. I'd be upset at my ancestors being tortured forever, but I don't really care to hang out with them. I'd rather focus on the comely maidens that must surely await, or anything else. Like.....what am I gonna say to some guy that died 200 years ago, but contributed 3% to my DNA? Wow pal,that sure was a thing huh?

>>46279133
Also, last thing, I wasn't clear. I meant I don't really see much point in hanging out with my ancestors in Heaven,

>>46279048
I bet you think the Australian aboriginals stole their great flood story "The Bundaba Flood Story" from the Epic of Ziusudra and the Epic of Gilgamesh too eh

>>46279091
Nobody cares about Hislop and his Babylon fetish or his hot takes on Catholicism and I reiterate that he knew less about the Sumerians than you do, because even though you are a complete imbecile none of the Sumerian tablets had been deciphered properly while he was alive.
Nobody mentioned the Greeks either cretin and Tammuz was an Akkadianization of Dumuzid who was the original Sumerian dying and rising god existing in the original scriptures that predate all the drivel you are rambling on about by millenia.

>>46279160
What an odd thing to say, are yiou this other fucking idiots cojoined twin?

>>46280072
>>46280115
>more crying
Still talking out your ass while calling others idiots lol.
You have no proof and I bet you have not read the Sumerian.
The Dunning–Kruger is in full effect.
Get your apophenia checked out.

>>46281543
Why would anyone have to prove that Chaldeans were not the same as Sumerians when the Chaldeans spoke a Semitic pig language and we have letters they wrote to the Assyrians and Egyptians and indeed some of the Amarna letters written by the late New Kingdom Egyptians at that time are about the very subjects I was talking about, while the Sumerians disappeared before the Kassite Dark Age and so there was no writing in Babylon for hundreds of years before the Chaldeans emerged you complete fucking idiot.
Please continue dribbling shit out of your little mind though like a good little churchmouse this is very entertaining

>>46283796
Those same translators can't figure out what a dog going into a tavern means.
Please show your creditable credentials Sumerians expert.
Describe how the language works
If they disappeared before the Kassite Dark Age how do we know the translations are accurate since according to you Chaldeans spoke a Semitic pig language and not the real thing.
Keep crying and punching the air like the impotent retard you are lol.

>>46284368
>Those same translators can't figure out what a dog going into a tavern means.
We're fairly certain about that one, it's a joke about the double meaning of tavern/brothel and the dog going in to see what's behind closed doors (eg. voyeurism). The dog can't see a thing, so he oppens the other one (spreads apart a woman's labia). People got focused on what the significance of it being a dog was, except that the Sumerians typically told jokes with anthropomorphic animals instead of people and the dog isn't the funny part.
There's a couple theories that it's an oblique parody of an unknown political figure, but those are fringe.

>>46284392
>We're fairly certain
>There's a couple theories
lol

>>46279126
>Thats never happened before!
First off, not funny and it's ironic that you basically put religion on the same level as politics. Second, you seem to be dodging his point. Christianity shouldn't be a hot confusing, conflicting and self contradicting mess that is. There shouldn't be a billion different branches if it's own God is real and could EASILY set the record straight, as he did in the old testament. Especially since the stakes are high for if anyone gets it all wrong through no fault of their, own simply because they were born into a certain church. It should be a case of finding a MODERN prophet or making one, convey the truth to him and have him broadcast it to the world in such a way that it is undeniable that he is correct. An allegedly omniscient and all powerful being should be able to do this easily, right? A being of this caliber should be able to solve this problem and make it crystal clear what it wants from its followers. They sorely fucking need it, damn.

>>46284484
did you miss the fringe part

>>46285689
Being the largest religion in the world it's bound to have many denominations

>>46284368
what the fuck are rambling about dogs and taverns now for, moron?
just accept that you are a chicken brained fool who brought up a 19th century writer to debunk scriptures that were only fully translated again by oxford scholars in the 20th century and then move on with your silly little life
oh and if you want all the texts downlad them both in english and transliterated form from the ETCSL

>>46285689
>>46286486
Etruscan,Tyrsenian, Rhaetic,Lemnian, Kalašmaic or any of the old Paleo-European languages such as Paleohispanic are understood or translated but the Sumerian/Akkadian are translated somewhat properly understood? lol

You throwing at fit because you're wrong is the cherry on top lol

>>46285689
Atheism is the same lol
Why are there diffrent types of atheists if it's the same thing?
And more got created like atheism + lol

>>46286486
>Retard doesn't know about the Sumerian dog joke tablet.
lol figures

>>46285803
>>46289738
Let me simplify it for you as much as i can, man made texts can be mistranslated or taken out of context or corrupted or lost. But a text that was made by or at least approved by a god ought to be above such things. So a god letting those denominations exist even though most of them might be heretical is stupid. If he was real or if he cared he'd make sure that there is only ONE denomination to follow, people can choose if they want to follow it or not but it would be clear that the one denomination is the true one. Instead, his poor followers are stuck with a book that was translated multiple times in different languages, having to rely on accounts from people describing events CENTURIES before they were born, missing or hidden information, etc.
>>46289768
See the above points.

>>46215712
This is now a Futo thread!

>>46295639
I love Futo, with skin as white as snow! She also has a big juicy butt!

>>46295654
Never mind, this is a Miko thread once more.

>>46295684
Anon must be deep in the closet if a woman's ass is enough to make him say this...

>>46295706
I appreciate everything Futo has to offer but I don't want to go straight to lewding Futo.

>>46295723
Uninitiated.

>>46295639
This is still a Miko thread!

>>46297209
Forgot some zeroes there, prince.

>>46297209
I want to clean her asshole with my tongue after she gets done taking a shit

>>46297209
I am slave to the Taoist. This golden haired goddess can empty my balls as easily as she does my bank account..

tried genning some senmura miko stuff
how'd I do?

>>46298792
this as well

miko wants to do WHAT in church??? that's blasphemy!!!!

lmaoism

>>46298792
She looks so nice man. Problem is it doesn't match senmura's art style very much. Maybe look for art related tags on danbooru and see which ones fit his art style? I know thats kind of hard.
>>46298879
Miko can do whatever she wants in the church! She took it over from the top and has corrupted it's doctrine and injected Taoism into the religion! She also skillfully destroyed most other christian denominations by luring most, if not all of their followers!

>>46298879
It's OK, it's a Catholic church. Miko's a proud KJVist Southern Baptist and she will do everything in her power to get those filthy Catholics out of her homeland!

>>46298903
looks like u liked that gen in particular do u want moar

>>46295562
Sounds like you're reaching and butthurt over people interpretations of the same thing. Your rant post is just one big temper tantrum lol.
You have no point it's all whining and you not being able to cope with why there are diffrent branches of the same thing.

You're like a mental retard that can't grasp abstract concepts lol
Don't go and throw your toys agaisnt the wall.

New thread here >>46299284

>>46298971
Oh thanks man. I wouldnt mind more. I just replied to that one because it was the one attached to the post where you asked us how well you did with the gen. I wouldnt mind more, maybe also do one where she wears her usual clothes.
>You're like a mental retard that can't grasp abstract concepts lol
Projection and you addressed none of my points individually.

>>46300408
ok sure ill post it in the new thread in a moment cuz wont bother posting in thread on the bump limit

>>46300408
How is it projection when you literally can't grasp why there are multiple denominations and don't abide by how you think they should?
Those aren't "individual points" it's individual whining and crying lol

Based Christianity triggering retards and degenerates after all these years.