/jp/ - Otaku Culture

http://retransintl.freewebhostx.com/transproj_ajax.PHP

You can submit up to 100 lines at a time using this. It is still in beta stage so nothing actually changes yet, but full deployment will be done soon.

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>It is still in beta stage so nothing actually changes yet

>>4939657
>I don't know what test and production environments are

>>4939718
>I'm Cudder and I can't samefag very well because I'm Russian

>>4939718
Generally when you push out a test version things actually work

So you can test them

>>4939745
>I'm Cudder and I'm pretending not to be me and hating my own project to arouse the attention of other people who forget to sage

>>4939230
Tried it a bit and looks like it'll be quite useful. Two things I have a bit of a quibble about though:
1. When I select a box to go to "editting mode", all the boxes shrink to equal sizes including the box with all the text. This makes it somewhat harder to read, especially boxes with more text than others.

2. It'd be nice if the original Japanese text can be somewhere near the text to be overwritten. Sometimes I forget what I was going to write, and if I already overwrote part of the original text, I have to CTRL+Z and start the line over.

But other than that it's great. Will make it easier to work with definitely.

>>4939771
>I'm Cudder and I'm saging my own thread in an attempt to bump it without ghost bumping-samefagging as anonymous because I don't know how sage works because I'm Russian

>>4939782
I'm a Cudder and I give my own stuff creative criticism, but it isn't creative criticism because I'm just praising my own multi-million dollar company program because I'm an entrepreneur and I sell visual novel translation programs on the internet

>>4939657
>>4939718
>>4939740
>>4939771
>>4939788
>implying implications
back to >>>/g/ please.

>>4939800
>I'm Cudder and I forget to greentext greentext, most likely to me being Russian

>>4939810
>I'm Cudder and someone thinks I'm implying something but I haven't actually implied anything. Clearly he lacks keen eyesight of a Russian and missed the fact that implications were not mentioned anywhere in my posts

>>4939839
>I'm Cudder and I forgot to mention that the post I linked in the post I'm linking now implied that implications are only used on /g/. Clearly this man does not have the wisdom of a Russian man, as he does not seem to understand implications are used outside of /g/, and were not invented in /g/

Believe me, you guys really don't want to incite 2ch unless you want another flood of А то!

lol.
>>4939745
Only the AJAX part, because that's what we're testing here. It's not hooked up to the backend yet.

>>4939782
We're working on it.

This update includes:
- maintain textarea size when row selected for editing
- color coding of current line to be edited and unsubmitted changes
- fix bug in unsubmitted change counter

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>>4940539

>>4940539
Forgot your trip, Cudder.

>It'd be nice if the original Japanese text can be somewhere near the text to be overwritten. Sometimes I forget what I was going to write, and if I already overwrote part of the original text, I have to CTRL+Z and start the line over.
In the main view, you can now click the column number in the header, marked 'Single', to enter single-column-editing mode for that column, which shows the original alongside the edited row. This works in much the same way as multi-column view, except of course you can't edit the original. The 'Multi' link in the table header will bring you back to the multiple-column view.

Is KARIN being edited?

>>4941351
Much better. It's definitely a lot easier to work with than before.

This entire thread is actually just me talking to my self

>>4941351
I'm just testing out the AJAX interface a bit. I just did only about 40-50 lines. Had to manually copy and paste the lines from the AJAX simulation to the real database though.

>We are at approximately 51%.
>51%.

>>4941725

>>4941742
Not really. They don't really have any editing or TL checking done.

>>4941742
It's actually a little higher since there are quite a few empty rows which don't get counted. I'd estimate closer to 60%.

>>4941731
We're working on hooking up the backend now. Won't be long before full deployment.

RWI-AJAX has been officially deployed. Report any bugs/feature requests/etc. in this thread. Once again, the URL is

http://retransintl.freewebhostx.com/transproj_ajax.PHP

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>>4942703

>>4942460
Did another 100 lines to test it.
Pleased to say that the interface works great.

>>4942460
Did another 100 lines to test it.
Interface works great.

You've gotta be shitting me...

>>4942749
Yeah kinda annoyed the shit out of me too when I got an Incorrect Code error like 5 times in a row, and fortunately it doesn't delete your work if you put the code in wrong. It just refreshes and gives you a new one. Either way, you only need to put in a code once every 100 lines so whatever.

>>4942749
BaTnAy

heads up: I'm going to be editing ANZU for a bit, starting at the beginning.

First 512 lines of ANZU edited.

>>4942749
>>4942774
Any of the following characters can appear:
123456789@#$%&abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUWVXYZ<>

B/rdTEVg, ESNB28dc, and E/sTxgBs, good to see some editing being done.

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I don't care who finishes this first, you or those other guys. I was mostly tired of nothing being done but constant complaining. Looks like it was worth it to split the group in two. That way there's competition for completion.

>>4943804

A split really occurred then? You were already short of translators, now it's even worse?

>>4943812
Lennar ran away because Cudder is a useless cunt. And he translated a lot of this. The project is pretty dead. But I wish Cudder the best of luck translating this, even if I dislike him. Have a bump, Hatsukoi Translation Thread.

>>4944314
I dislike you. Get the stupid vn creation thread ouf of here, faggot.

>>4944390
We have got out. Don't worry. Just made a few threads to gather interest in /jp/.

>>4944390
>I'm autistic faggot

Some fag keeps reverting the 4chan link on http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=Hatsukoi to point to Cudder's shitty threads instead of >>4928273

Please stop

>>4943804
Tripfags, Namefags, anonymous, lend me your ears;
I come to praise Cudder, not to bury him.
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones;
So let it be with Cudder. The noble !w4lolitaKs
Hath told you Cudder was ambitious:
If it were so, it was a grievous fault,
And grievously hath Cudder answer'd it.
Here, under leave of !w4lolitaKs and the rest--
For !w4lolitaKs is an honourable tripfag;
So are they all, all honourable tripfags--
Come I to speak in Cudder's thread.
He was my friend, faithful and just to me:
But !w4lolitaKs says he was ambitious;
And !w4lolitaKs is an honourable tripfag.
He hath brought many translators home to REtrans
Whose lines did the general CSVs fill:
Did this in Cudder seem ambitious?
When that the poor have cried, Cudder hath wept:
Ambition should be made of sterner stuff:
Yet !w4lolitaKs says he was ambitious;
And !w4lolitaKs is an honourable tripfag.
You all did see that on the TLwiki
I thrice presented him a kindly offer,
Which he did thrice refuse: was this ambition?
Yet !w4lolitaKs says he was ambitious;
And, sure, he is an honourable tripfag.
I speak not to disprove what !w4lolitaKs spoke,
But here I am to speak what I do know.
You all did love him once, not without cause:
What cause withholds you then, to mourn for him?
O judgment! thou art fled to brutish beasts,
And men have lost their reason. Bear with me;
My post is in the thread there with Cudder,
And I must pause till it come back to me.

>>4945511
Gee, I wonder who that might be.

>>4943804
This is THE original project, not a shitty TLwiki ripoff!
They have translators, but so do we!
They have a wiki, but we have REtrans!
Show them what Anonymous can really do ---
We've already made it halfway as a /jp/ project, let's FINISH THIS!!!

And we have cute girls!

First 1000 lines of ANZU have been edited. About 20-30% need to be changed.

>>4946444

No reason not to sync them from time to time. Unfortunately, real editing/reviewing with retrans is still nothing short of masochistic.

>>4947322
Have you tried the new version yet? You can just click on a line and edit it right away, then submit the whole page of a hundred lines once you're done.

>>4947915

Yeah, it took "only" months of constant complaining AND a fork for these retards to recognize the need for a basic feature (and they still manage to miss the point).

You guys should realize that you're simply feeding a MASSIVE ego here, and getting almost guaranteed shit in return.

>>4948202
Back to /tlwiki/, please. I just edited the first 2K lines of ANZU and it certainly is an improvement. Not one that was absolutely needed though, since we got this far without it.

Fuck yeah, we started this and we're going to finish it!

>>4948515
>we

>>4948521
>implying the majority of the translators were not anonymous

>>4948552
>were
being the key word here. Enjoy your lonely, futile attempts, Cudder.

>>4946444
Uh...
Why are there people who think that somehow changing the place it's hosted somehow stops it from being a 'jp project?' The only thing you're doing is getting away from the current project leader and starting an autonomous project. If anything it's anonymousish that way

>>4948576
TLwiki was not created because of /jp/

>>4949866
Who cares if it was made for /jp/ or not.

It was made to host VN/eroge translation projects. If you were going to be using some public SVN/SCM hosting someplace, would you be upset because it wasn't made for /jp/?

Besides, I'm pretty sure many people involved in projects hosted on TLWiki do lurk /jp/ too, so it's still a shared userbase.

I don't really care how you're hosting it as long as you guys get organized and get the project going. It seems one of your main translators was discontent with how Cudder was running the project so he made a fork on TLWiki. Although it's probably possible to backport edits to and from ReTrans and TLWiki, it'd probably be wasted effort unless done in an automatic manner (import bot?). That way everyone could be pleased.

>>4946337
lol
>>4946444
Damn right! Everyone think that way, we're going to win this!
>>4949923
Indeed he was discontent, but given that he demands thanks even after he damages the file we entrusted to him, and essentially fails to "see the light at the end of a long dark tunnel", I'm doubtful of his innocence and maturity. Maybe you find my management strategies harsh, but that's because we're driving the project forward, giving it a direction everyone should face. Let's be clear: You're not doing this because you want fame and recognition, you're doing this because you have a goal --- Anonymous' goal --- to finish this and show them: "We can do it!"

As for exchanging edits between the two sites, they are at a disadvantage since they're using a completely different format which will require extensive processing for even the game engine to use (e.g. they mixed all the columns together into one huge jumble of text), but we're plug-and-play, and with RWI-AJAX, we can be more productive than ever before.

Comments?

>>4950703
Why do you keep posting?

>>4950703
Why do you use a secure trip?

>>4950703
> >>4946444
>Damn right! Everyone think that way, we're going to win this!

maybe you should see a psychiatrist

>>4950939
hello, tlwiki shill

You guys need to quit this internet drama crap. Just hurry up and translate Hatsukoi.

>>4950950
>>4950950
>>4950950
>>4950950
>>4950950
>>4950950
This.

>>4950950
1. learn Japanese
2. translate Hatsukoi
3. ?????
4. PROFIT!

>>4950950
but... but... drama is more fun than hueg ajax clicky tableshueg HTML form input / text-template -based tables

take your pick of the DOUBLE SPOILER

>>4951182
I'm working on step one. That part will probably take me a while though.

>>4951182
More like
1. Learn Japanese
2. Play Hatsukoi and many other untranslated VNs
3. ???
4. Profit
5. Laugh at the unwashed non-moonspeaking masses.

So, what's the status?

>>4950703
lol it's not a matter of winning.

You still seem immature.
If you think you can do the rest on your own here, by all means please do so. It saves me the trouble, and I have school to deal with so I don't really need any extra hassles.

I didn't do this for fame or recognition. I just did it because I like translating, but you were just too much of a bitch for me to stay quiet about it.

Anyways, good luck. I'll be watching the people on the TLWiki side to see what they want to do, but this isn't a competition, and both our goals are the same: the completion of Hatsukoi,
so if you can do this on your own, more power to you. However, even if activity stops suddenly again I won't be helping you any further. I can't put up with your behavior.

>>4951219
[x] Told
[ ] Not told

>>4951189
Actually, this is probably a pretty good place to ask. Anyone know any good sites on Japanese verb conjugation?

>>4951253
I don't know any good sites for verb conjugation, but here's an all-around good site for grammar:
http://jgram.org/

>>4950703
Damages the file?? I thought that was unintentional.

>>4951273
It was, and it was only 2 small errors that were easily fixed in less than 5 minutes each(a comma was missing, Cudder could have fixed it herself even because it was easy to see where the mistake was).
Cudder's just trying to blow it out of proportion. （；´ω｀）

>>4951230
Read through the past threads and you'll see Cudder has been perfectly happy with your translations. It's absolutely normal to get pissed if she tells you you broke the file, but is that really her fault?

>>4951273

I'm an expert on these matters, so listen up and listen good - I'll try to keep this simple but it won't be easy, because I am an expert, as I mentioned previously.

Hearing the difference now isn't the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA - it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange...well don't get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren't stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you'll be glad you did.


Now for the serious answer:
Can you guys build a patch with the files that you uploaded to TLWiki, do you have all the tools? Did anyone test if everything is working right? Otherwise, it would be a shame to translate everything and then realize you have to copy pasta all the text all over again because you corrupted the format originally.

>>4951348
???

I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you're saying.
When did I say the files breaking was Cudder's fault?

Yeah, it's fine to say "oh, could you fix this, it looks like it's buggy around here" but she made a huge fucking deal out of it.
Something like "Now we have a whole fucking half file broken because of Lennar". It was one comma at the exact spot where the file was messed up on retrans. I'm still amazed she couldn't figure it out herself.

She's never said anything positive to me. Yet afterwards she praises two IPs for putting in a few lines in, telling them to keep up the good work and everything, when they're putting in shitty SUGOI ojou-sama translations. I guess Cudder hates me? I mean, seriously, even with the file thing, it wasn't even a big deal. It was instantly fixed, and more importantly, Anzu was finally done, yet Cudder was here raging about how the file is TOTALLY FUCKED UP~~~!! Oh heavens no!

>>4951401
Don't worry, as long as we keep line numbers, and are able to extract the actual dialogue field from the final translation on the wiki and match it with the line number field properly (which yes, we can), insertion back into the scripts will be a piece of cake.

Cudder, besides being a shit person, is also a shit programmer who thinks that simple text operations are somehow "difficult" and that to avoid this horrible horrible morass of thorny problems that can't be solved by anything less than A WHOLE ENTIRE REGEX OMG, one must use fucking SQL or something, who knows

:enterpriseprogramming: :psyduck:

>>4951401
btw if you want to ask the tlwiki hatsukoi crew stuff you might want to try posting in >>4928273 instead of this thread. Lol politics and everything but hey, IF I SEE THAT FUCKING "You don't even need to know Japanese to help improve the English text" ONE MORE TIME etc.

>>4951219
All files are back online, and weekly updates will resume soon.
>>4951230
>>4951273
>>4951280
>>4951348
Alright everyone, enough of this. Lennar, sorry for singling you out. You do a great job of translating, but just be more careful. Take yourself in my perspective --- I wanted it to get done, so I trusted you with editing the file correctly (tip: even Excel would've worked well to preserve the structure). If you were in my position, wouldn't you be just a little irritated?

>>4951472
Thank you for the nice post.

Honestly, if I were in your position I would have checked out the file myself. This isn't meant as a criticism, but you know more about programming then I do, right? If I were you I would've just checked out the file as soon as I saw a problem and fixed it since they were simple instead of getting upset about it.

Any project or endeavor is bound to have snags. The important thing is to not lose your cool and try to get over them.

Kind of weird how progress is very sporadic. I remember this project being stuck at 40% for like 5 months then suddenly it jumped to 51%. Before that it was at 2X% for a while before it jumped to 40

>>4951491
sorry, fix...
then X
than ○

>>4951498
I translated Yusumi in like a week or two and Nefelpitou and a couple other people were working on Komomo etc.

The recent jump was when I finished the Anzu file I think.

I am now picturing Cudder x Lennar engaging in hatesex.

>>4951472
No, I'd be like "Oh there's a comma missing in this input file. I'm sure glad I'm a good programmer who wrote a robust program because that program has now halted with a descriptive error message which tells me exactly which line(s) of the file contain(s) less than the correct number of commas; I will now add the comma(s) back in by editing a CSV in the text editor of my choice in about 5 seconds thanks to already knowing exactly on what line they are supposed to go, and, being an intelligent human being, being able to immediately figure out where in the line the comma should go based on the contents of the fields in comparison to other lines of the CSV. Lennar, oh u. Watch out for commas! :3"

But I guess too many parts of that wouldn't ring very true for you, would they now, Cudder

>>4951512
I wonder if Cudder is a typical tsundere and would go dere during hatesex?

>>4951512

I'm tempted to write some hatesex drama, maybe when I wake up in a few hours.

>>4951569
that would be hilarious

>>4951448
>he still uses regexes to parse CSV
laughinggirls.jpg

Try writing a standards-compliant CSV parser that also takes into account the peculiarities of this game's engine.

>I guess Cudder hates me?
No, I don't.

>>4951491
I did. I think that one was an extra newline or something, but I wanted you to fix it since you'd know more about what text goes on what row/column. Also, ANZU grew an extra column again... there's no mismatch between the lines like last time so it isn't going to be as easy to figure out, but could you figure out where it is?

>>4951596
Sure. Could you post a link of where it grew an extra column?

>>4951596
>standards-compliant CSV parser
uh... lmao

all you need is to take a CSV, extract fields, dump them in a wiki, wait until they become translated, then extract them again, dump them back in the CSV. You don't need a fucking "standards-compliant CSV parser", what the hell are you on? What "standards" are you even talking about? More of your faux-corporate bullshit. Hilarious.

>>4951526
It ain't just about counting commas, you know.

>>4951596
>ANZU grew an extra column again... there's no mismatch between the lines like last time so it isn't going to be as easy to figure out

... do you mean to say you're actually rewriting the entire CSV constantly? I can't imagine any other way the entire script would just "grow a column". Wow, no wonder you're afraid of breaking stuff.

>>4951636
uh... yeah, in your ridiculous implementation it probably isn't. Jesus. >>4951647

It looks like it's a problem with the new interface. When I looked at it on the old one it had no problems.

>>4951607
http://retransintl.freewebhostx.com/transproj_ajax.PHP?proj=hatsukoi&file=ANZU.txt&start=560
0
There's one, but there might be others.
>>4951618
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4180.txt
>>4951647
Read the threads, Lennar edited the file manually.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8YPQN90V

This should fix it.

>>4951698
>Read the threads, Lennar edited the file manually.
Then why isn't it a matter of just counting the commas?

>>4951734
Good, that worked. Comments on RWI-AJAX?

>>4951772
Read the spec.

my face when I realized I just killed several thousand lines of edits to ANZU

>>4951906
I edited the text file after taking it from this link.
http://retransintl.freewebhostx.com/hatsukoi/trans/ANZU.txt

>>4951906

>>4951951
*sigh of relief*

...I really need to get some sleep.

Do your best Hatsukoi translation thread!

bump!

Bump, gonna start that hatesex story.

>>4954656
I hope this ends up good. Good luck.

>>4954799

It's actually interesting because I'm having to write it like they're actually in a working environment. Cudder being pinned down by Lennar is pretty moe. ( ﾟдﾟ)

>>4954656
You know a project has gotten big when fanfics of the people involved start appearing.

Hatesex fag here, busy playing BC2 but I managed to get a few paragraphs done earlier. I'll work on it more later once I can be bothered writing about mollusks.

Wow. Cudder and Lennar hate eachothers guts, then want down eachothers pants in the same thread.

>>4956267
And then I realised eachother isn't a word.

>>4956267
typical tsundere

>>4955722
No. When fanfics of the people involved start appearing, you know that /jp/ is full of retards, that's all.

Eeeeh, I thought you guys had broken free from the yokes of your capitalist oppressors?
At least some erotic fiction will come out of this.

Let's wait until they find out. I'm guessing they'll either enjoy it immensely or rage like never before. Being 4chan, probably the former.

Take a look at what's going on over at TLwiki... >>4953660

>>4955722
>>4956786
I... really don't know what to say about this.

>>4956689

So I guess everybody's reconciled now? If that's the case, I have better things to do than writing mediawiki bots, too... (I do suggest that you keep some project info on the wiki, though)

>>4950703
>>4949923

And for the love of God, guys, all of you, find a less retarded point to argue about. You're arguing about the effort to process *plain* *effing* *text* with a few constraints, holy crap!

>>4958236
We are not reconciled. It is just a ceasefire for now, until what further drama inevitably breaks it.

>>4957968

You're a hard person to write, Cudder. I've started you out as hateful (since it is hatesex after all) but somehow I've made you a pure tsundere in the process.

I wish there was a translator named House here.
We would all be rooting for the tsundereness for them.

>>4959179
That's fine as long as the tsuntsun is hard enough.

I want to have sex with Cudder.

>>4959226
wat

>>4959149
Quit trying to stir things up, troll.

>Actually, I was thinking of giving a little something to the translators when we did finish

Cudder's going to compensate them with her body.

>>4959984

donotwant.jpg

>>4959179
I-It's not like I w-want to read your s-stupid story!
(Do I sound convincing enough?)

...

On a more serious note, qualitative statii:
ANZU.txt - done, first 2000 lines edited
B.txt - done
C.txt - partly done, lines are a little amusing to read. Anyone wanting to jump in is recommended to start here.
COCO.txt - several hundred lines done, not contiguous
COMMON.txt - done - might need some editing
D.txt - done - no translation needed
E.txt - done - done
KARIN.txt - close to 40% translated, moving
KOMOMO.txt - at least 1.6k lines translated - will need a fair bit of editing
M.txt - done - done
P.txt - done - no translation needed
S.txt - unfinished, but should be an easy 650 lines
V.txt - done - no translation needed
YUSUMI.txt - done - no editing status available

Have a bump, Hatsukoi Translation Thread

>>4960208

>I-It's not like I w-want to read your s-stupid story!

ヽ(´▽`)/

Up!

bampu pantsu~

>>4960208
fuck yeah

>>4951265
A bit late, but thanks for the site.

As of 2010-04-24 23:40 4ST

ANZU 5616/5616
B 76/76
C 40/127
COCO 1078/4937
COMMON 6754/6754
D 187/187
E 13/13
KARIN 1983/4486
KOMOMO 2357/7127
M 24/24
P 7/7
S 16/650
V 21/21
YUSUMI 4435/4435
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TOTALS 22607/34460 65.604%

>>4966958
>65%
Keep up the good work Hatsukoi translators.

>>4966973
We're almost 2/3 of the way there! Keep translating!

The translation progress is getting steady. So we do get something out of the drama, eh...

>>4967482
A third to go, they can almost see the finish line.

>>4968532
A shame that upwards of 20-40% needs to be redone, isn't it?

>>4968571
>implying those who care wouldn't just play the game in its native language anyway

>>4968850
wut

>>4968850
>implying I would have learnt japanese if most VNs had been translated

>>4968850
>implying I would have learnt japanese anyway if most VNs had been translated

>What is this?
Latin.

She might be telling us to get a job or something.

Cudder, you so fine, I wanna make you mine.

>>4966958
where I can download this 65% translation patch?

>>4969375
I'm seconding this, but I'm guessing there's no downloadable patch yet.
They probably won't release a patch until it's 90-95% done.

Cudder-chan, accept my love.

A crappy game getting a shit translation - I can't wait until it's done!

>>4969839
Such wit.

>>4969845
The game is pretty bad, no one who tried it will tell you anything else.

The translation is horrible, I pointed that out often enough.

But yeah, keep telling yourself I am wrong.

>>4970131
no one cares about your opinion

>>4969375
If you knew what you're doing, you could always get the latest off the site.

Up!

Does this even have any translators left? Cudder/Lolita's chased off at least three or four now.

>>4974930
There's at least 3.

>>4970131
I've read through the Yusumi translation, and the translation is actually quite good (a few typos here and there but due to the damn captcha, was too lazy to edit those. Fuck it takes me at least 8 tries to get that shit right). Translation is better than any Mangagamer shit at the very least.
I've read through all of Karin's route too, and from those two routes I'll say this game isn't going to be groundbreaking at all, but it's still quite charming. It's better than Brass Restoration and ONE I'd say.
I haven't looked through Anzu's route for errors yet, but I personally translated a big majority of common (5000+ lines) and several hundred of Karin and I'm pretty sure I didn't fuck up too much considering this isn't exactly the most difficult VN out there. The biggest issue is probably just making the English sound more eloquent.
If you could tell me where there are errors I'll look through it and fix it.

Ok, since I did promise to do this:

http://tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=File:Tmpl2csv.zip

Quick ghetto-tier script for inserting stuff from tlwiki back into original CSV file. Tried on a few routes, seems to work (after fixing the errors in CSV files).

I could write something to synchronize the wiki from retrans, but I see no point if you don't even have an editor to decide when the scripts are release-ready.

>>4975199
COCO and KOMOMO need the most editing.

>>4975280
Nice. It'd be great if this project can be done as efficiently and effectively as possible.

I'm pretty sure the goal was get Anonymous be the editor and QC critic, but that doesn't seem to be working too well. I can only hope that Anon of /jp/ will be more generous in editing once everything is roughly translated. However, I'm pretty sure it'll just end up like Clannad, where the patch was released on a completely rough translated version and nobody gave a shit to fix it after they've read it.

>>4975327
I worked on the Clannad project...

I kept bugging velocity7 and everyone about quality issues but no one listened so I quit. One of the translators was not only translating the Japanese wrong, but he wasn't a native speaker of English and his sentences all sounded funny, yet for some reason he was translating a majority of the lines.
It makes me lol every time I see screenshots.

>>4975199
The guy you're replying to is just the guy who constantly trolls these threads. He doesn't actually know what he's talking about.

>>4975316
You're right, currently
COCO's is scatterlated
And KOMOMO's is definitely... lol...

I'll try to finish Karin's first, then after connect the dots with Coco from the beginning. I'm pretty sure Lennar is doing Komomo on the tlwiki and I'll pray that terms will eventually become good enough so that the two sites' efforts can be combined.

>>4975327

>I'm pretty sure it'll just end up like Clannad, where the patch was released on a completely rough translated version and nobody gave a shit to fix it after they've read it.

Looks very much like it.

Sadly, I don't have time volunteer for serious QC/TLC (and in the end, it still needs to be verified by a single person). Unless, perhaps, any translators want to do an exchange with F/HA project?

Say, trade 2 lines of TLC per 1 line of TL - :)

>>4975383

>I'm pretty sure Lennar is doing Komomo on the tlwiki

Huh? I didn't even upload it... Should I?

>>4975383
I'm not currently translating anything.

Is Komomo that bad? I haven't looked at it yet...

I just tried looking at Komomo using the new interface, but...

Is there any way to see the Japanese version together with the English? This is going to be really hard to use when checking the translation...

>>4975426
http://retransintl.freewebhostx.com/transproj_ajax.PHP?proj=hatsukoi&file=KOMOMO.txt&start=0
&col=13

>>4975383
>>4975316
I did most of Komomo-After 300ish. Someone's been editing my translations....and he/she doesn't seem very good at English...or is at the least bad at keeping the original meaning in....

I'm E/sTxgBs

This isn't me.
>「稔ちゃん……今年の夏は暑かったね……」(This summer)
>「Minoru-chan……Summer was pretty hot, wasn't it……?」(summer was hot? wtf?)
>That night... Was it really real..? Even right now, it still feels like a dream.
>Komomo-sempai's unexpectedly large round eyes stare at me. The distance is short, I'm embarrassed.

Also, shouldn't Minoru still be 稔 for the voice?

>>4975457
I keep reading Minoru as Minori. Fuck.

>>4975457
>That night... Was it really real..? Even right now, it still feels like a dream.
>Komomo-sempai's unexpectedly large round eyes stare at me. The distance is short, I'm embarrassed.

Those two are mine, what's wrong with it? Is it inaccurate?
How about if I do it like this, would this be better?

あの夜のことって……ほんとうのことだったのかなぁ……。なんだか今とな
っては、現実感がないや。
The stuff that night... did it really happen? Compared to now, it feels unreal.
意外と大きな、くりくりっとした瞳で、小桃先輩が見つめる。距離が近くて
、ちょっと恥ずかしい。
Komomo-sempai stared at me with her unexpectedly big round eyes. Since she's so upclose, I'm kinda embarrassed.

>>4975409
Oh it was Nefelpitou that was doing Komomo. Mixed you guys up. Either way it's your choice what to translate next, or whether you even want to continue translating Hatsukoi. It'd definitely help if you continued on something though (Coco,TL check, edit, etc.).

>>4975457
That explains it. I only looked through the first two or so pages. Was there an issue with 稔 though? I had a big hiatus on this project for about 2-3 months, and checked back a week or 2 ago to see loldrama so I don't really know what issues came about in the meantime.

But I'm glad this project has been moving. I'll get cracking again once I finish finals in about 3 weeks. I'd appreciate it if whoever that was also working on Karin sub in for me until then.
GJ all.

heads up: I'm going to be editing ANZU starting at line 2048. I've already edited the first 2047.

>>4975542
They were either inaccurate or sounded weird.
>>4975551
>Oh it was Nefelpitou that was doing Komomo
I don't really have the time right now, so other can pick it up if they want.

>Kamata should already know that Miki-chan is a good girl.
>Miki-chan is a good girl.

>>4975280
Without doing a thorough formal review, I can already see that it'll work most but not all of the time. First of all, the Text::CSV documentation clearly states that "while(<>)" won't work with embedded newlines. Secondly, as far as I know, TLwiki uses UTF-8 but the engine wants Shift-JIS. I also didn't see any handling for the unique quirks of the engine's CSV parser.

>>4975441
For future reference, to view any column in single-column mode, click the column number in the first row. To return to multiple-column-view, click the Multi link in the first row. This information will appear in the upcoming documentation update.

>>4975613
I know this is /jp/, but please refrain from inserting memes.

>I know this is /jp/, but please refrain from inserting memes.

We'll let you know when we want to hear your opinion on what we should post next time, until then please keep it to yourself.

>>4975642

Not fond of reinventing the wheel, iconv can do codepage conversion at the last moment.

Newlines... Should you even allow them? I believe I saw one case in the translated (*not* the original) part somewhere, but IMO that's just asking for trouble. I'd treat that as broken.

Don't see a problem filtering out anything that's known to cause problems with the game (haven't checked, but I assume there are characters it doesn't like or a limit to the line length, at least). I'd prefer to do that in a separate script, though.

>>4975699

>>4975723

Reported for spam.

>>4975693

get out tlwiki trolls

>>4975734
I'm not the person you replied to, but you quoted a post that had no memes in it. This implies that you are telling the person who posted what he or she can or cannot post.

>Even if we're separated, you're still my little sister, and I'm still you're big brother
trollface.jpg

first 4k lines of ANZU have been edited. i'm out for the day.

>>4975900
GREAT!

Up!

>>4975723

Fuck this, I should have known better than to expect a degree of competence.

Onto the ignore list, douchebag.

Up! Ignore the trolls.

Down.

Ignore you.

>>4979233
>He actually thinks sage brings threads down

>>4979827
Nope. Just kills the thread faster admist all the ghost bumping.

resuming editing of ANZU starting at line 4096.

editing of ANZU now complete.

>>4981568
Nobody care about this dirty slut.

>>4981568
Nice job!

>>4981952
If you don't like something, why don't you just ignore it? There are plenty of other wonderful threads on 4chan for you to enjoy.

>>4981568
>editing of ANZU now complete.
>Number of lines I read before I found the first blatant grammatical mistake: 5.

Good work, team.

>>4982407
>not identifying where the error is
>not fixing it
0/10

Get the fuck out, troll.

>>4982422
Way to fix the problem! Go team!

>>4982432

Up!

>>4982407
I didn't find any big mistakes, but looking through the script has made me realize what a bland, awful game this is.

>>4983317
The fanbase is indeed pretty small for this one, but that's not the point; rather, it was chosen because of the initial interest in trnaslating it, and now it has proved that anonymous translation projects can work decently well.

>>4981568
Excellent progress. YUSUMI and COMMON should be the next to receive some editing, as the others have yet to be completed.

>>4983365
>The fanbase is indeed pretty small for this one, but that's not the point; rather, it was chosen because of the initial interest in trnaslating it, and now it has proved that anonymous translation projects can work decently well.

So then does that mean there will be other projects after this one? I don't mind helping out on another after this one finishes. How are we going to choose the next title though?

>>4985835
Rescue some dead project that was abandoned with something already done or with tools available.

>>4983365
>anzu.txt
>decently well

reactionface.jpg

>>4985835
>>4985845
It's whatever anons want to and are willing to translate. There's no reason to restrict ourselves to one at a time either -- as long as there's interest, we can spawn project sites for those interested to work on (e.g. Editorashi ran alongside this one for a few months.)

This game will NEVER be released. Why keep on trolling?

Keep on Calling, instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFa44LxWcZU

>>4987190
Willing to work on My Fair Angel? It's probably only 1000 lines or so. Plays like Princess Maker.

>>4987280
Found a torrent but it's an unfamiliar site; hongfire doesn't seem to have it available. I have the game though if someone can tell me how to upload it to a torrent. I'm a computer idiot.

>>4987280
It's not whether we're willing to, but whether anon is. We'll provide the IT expertise and support --- just add translators.

>>4987475
Right. I could translate but it would be crap.

Still waiting on that erotic fiction.

>>4987280
>>4987471
>>4987496

You can gather your support here: >>4987676

>>4987522
I agree.

>>4987496
You'd fit right in with the standards of Hatuskoi then!

Up!

Up!

>>4987522

Oh, I kind of forgot about that actually. I got a few paragraphs done but stopped and I've been relatively busy since playing Resonance of Fate and Ar Tonelico 2. If I'm bored shitless tonight I'll try finish it up but I can't promise much.

Have a bump Hatsukoi Translation Thread

COMMON can't be edited. I'm getting permission denied errors.

>>4995432
Yeah same with Yusumi. It's weird.

>>4995432
>>4995675
They were locked to indicate completion of translation; I've unlocked them now so you can edit.

Bump!

Up you go.

Last bump before the GET faggotry approaches.