/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>5544209
>precisely one period
>after a question

>het still plays xbot3shitty
>laughingelfgirls.jpg

Did you people just find out that this genre existed outside of Touhou? What's with the 900 DS threads suddenly? For such an old game?

>>5544220
Just came out on Xbox.

>>5544241
Just came out over a year ago.

Also doesn't help that Espgaluda 2 is still TOO FUCKING MUCH MONEY to import.

>>5544209

>>5544241
/v/

>>5544262
it just came out in English on Xbox.

>>5544283
/v/

Isn't Deathsmiles meant to be easy for a Cave game, anyway? Gotta work harder, guys.

>>5544295
I struggle to beat Toohoo games. DS hurts like a night in federal prison if I kick it above level 2.

>>5544295
I think Progear no Arashi is supposedly much harder.

>>5544308
Every CAVE game is much harder, except maybe Deathsmiles 2.

>>5544209
just hold on, just play this game instead.

>>5544315
If you skip extra stage and death mode of course.
If you go all lvl 3 + Ex the game gets very brutal quickly.

>>5544308
Supposedly? No, it definitely is.

>>5544315
Meh, hard doesn't mean that much. DS is still great fun.

>>5544316
R-Type hurts.

>>5544308
I didn't really like Progear. Like half the waves seem impossible to dodge, so the only way to survive is to have a good enough ring built up already and to convert everything. It sucks to be completely screwed because you hadn't already set things up in advance.
>>5544316
They turned me into a treeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

>>5544264
Buy an Iphone and get EspG2 for it. EXTREMELY good port. Better than the Xbox version in almost every way. Slightly diminished sound and picture quality but that's about it.

>>5544329
I've never played Deathsmiles, so I wouldn't know.

>IPhone port
>better than the XBox version, which is the arcade version with upgraded graphics and 3 extra modes.

>>5544336
Iphone = normalfag = GTFO of /jp/

>>5544350
I know. Amazing, isn't it?

Fucking Tyranosatan ruined an almost perfect 80 million point run in original Arcade mode.

1cc still eludes me.

>>5544367
I'm almost down to 6cc. ;_;

So are the american leaderboards really as pathetic as people claim?

Will I be able to play this on my PAL console if I import the US version? Or does it something dumb like region locking.

>>5544402
pedo

>>5544402
There'd region locking, yeah.

>>5544402
No it is locked bro.

I got the platinum edition for my j360. It is a fun game!

GaludaII too expensive to import?
What? I've imported ever Cave 360 port aside from DSIIX so far and it is worth every cent. The iPhone version is fun an well done but no candle to the 360 with Black Label etc.

There are two more iPhone Cave
Games in the works too.

when death smiles, lolis smile back

Welcome to the world of danmaku girl. Enjoy your stay :3

finally, a CAVE game I can fap to

FUND IT!

>>5544691
Vundabar!

The meido is the best girl!

>>5545104
>he doesn't know her name
casper > all

Such a naughty blonde twin-tailed loli

My penis was made to fap to her

This was released on the 360 last year and not to mention the arcades 3 years ago sure is slow ass non JTAG or Jap 360 owners.

>>5546360
Guess it's time to start hating it now that the masses have gotten their paws on it.

>Jitterbug
>Hard
Are you guys kidding me? Death smiles is pretty damn easy the only "hard" part of the game is entering death mode early and EX stage.

Fucking bosses in Death Smiles dies before they have time to unleash their patterns...

>>5546388
>hating
Death Smiles was never anything special noone ever claimed it to be either.

>>5546397
>Death Smiles 2
>Play the game 3-4 times
>1CC it

sure will be alot of banning around shmups.org

>>5546539
What's going on?

>>5546388
That doesn't look like it would be that comfortable.

>>5546539
>shmups.org
HURP DURP KETSUI DEFENCE FORCE HURP DURP FUCKING PEDOS RUINING THE GENRE HURP DURP LETS HAVE A TOURNAMENT WITHOUT CAVE SHMUPS BECAUSE THEY ARE OVERRATED HURP DURP

>>5546549
I don't think you understand masochism.

>>5546560
>>5546560
>WITHOUT CAVE SHMUPS BECAUSE THEY ARE OVERRATED

>implying people who have not been playing the genre for years are not getting sick of CAVE and seek something else

>>5544262

Yeah, I like how the game is only generally talked about now that there's an English release.... Fucking retards.

>>5544336

It's the best handheld port I've ever seen, that's for sure.

>>5544406

I'm hurt! .... Wait, no I'm not. This is /jp/.

>>5545211

Too bad she's an absolute bitch to 1cc with. I've noticed that power is proportional to chest size and cleavage in both Deathsmiles and Deathsmiles 2. Follett and Rosa are generally the easiest to 1cc with.

>>5546678
You're certainly dedicated

>>5546678

You bought Deathsmiles 2X twice? Why?

Pretty much every single review has claimed it to be utter shit.

>>5546678
>death smiles at us all, lolis smile back.
AHHAHAHA but that really is a great line

>>5546753
Really? I facepalmed.

>>5546743

What reviews? Everyone dissing it probably haven't even played the game, due to the region lock 'n all. OMG 3D SO GAY, HRURRGH

>>5546678
>Death smiles at us all. Lolis smile back
Who thought that would be clever, seriously?

>>5546767
It's cute. Quit being so cold.

>>5546743

I bought the limited and standard editions of both games, plus the NA release of the first game. So I have three copies of the first game now....

Autism.

>>5546743

Most of the guys who bitch about DS2 haven't actually played it.

It's tons of fun and plays like the good old CAVE people love. Sure, graphically it's worse than most of the SH-3 stuff but it's fine in motion.

>>5546760

I laughed, smiled, and then facepalmed. I do admire Aksys for having the balls to print that right on the box. I'm sure it will raise a few eyebrows.

Does the NA port work on a Japanese machine? I read it has the MBL ver 1.1 on disc, I'd rather get another copy of the game than buy a 1400 point card.

I was surprised to see that achievements double up if you own the import. The two games show up in your games list as totally separate games. It feels like cheating to get all the same points over again relatively easily.

>>5546825

I just tried it for you and it's a no go. Sorry.

>>5546790

Just better hope some CNN soccer mom doesn't decide to google up lolis.

>>5546825

Not related to the American release, but this seems a good place to ask:
Does anyone here have any experience of dealing with the issues related to running a Japanese Xbox360 on a 230V (UK) power supply? I heard you can avoid having to use a step down transformer and just get a local PSU. Is it just a matter of buying the right part, or do you have to do any tinkering?

>>5546870
>>5546883
Dang, that's retarded. Thanks for testing it, though!

>>5546784

No, really, DS2x isn't that good. I can think of two different reviews where they've played them, then proceeded to dislike them. It's not just people needlessly hating on the 3D.

If I can't play it easily on my PC is not worth it.

how can a eurofag play this game? ;_;

>>5546886
You can get a local power supply, make sure you get a PSU that's specced equal or higher than the Japanese brick. The 203w PSU of the first gen machines will work with any 360 console revision, but Jasper's 150w supply won't obviously work with earlier machines.

>>5546899

I'm sorry, but anyone that listens to the gaming media is a fucking retard. You should form your own damn opinions. Who gives a flying fuck about what reviewers think? I remember back in the day, Keio Flying Squadron received horrible reviews simply because it was weird and Japanese. I thought it was a fun basic shooter, and I still cherish my copy.

>>5546971
a) Get a supergun/cab and buy the arcade board
b) Import a Japanese 360 (American console is fine too but that'd be retarded since everything else is locked to NTSC-J)
c) JTAG a machine and try to live w/o patches, leaderboards, replays, etc
d) Go to a friend's place who has one of the above mentioned things.

>>5546997

But these aren't reviews nor done by "reviewers", they're just personal opinions.

http://eoj-sh3.blogspot.com/2010/05/deathsmiles-iix.html

http://d.hatena.ne.jp/elixir68k/20100605

There's not an overwhelming amount of Japanese 360 owners who are willing to import a game blindly, and they're not getting paid or attention for giving their views, which is exactly why you should pay attention to them.

>>5547067
EOJ's ranting is about the port's quality -- not the actual game. Most of his gripes with the port were fixed by the patch that came out recently, anyway.

Elixir is a huge fag anyway, he prefers the shitty X-Mode.

>>5547098
>EOJ's ranting is about the port's quality -- not the actual game.

Yes, and he says that the port's quality is poor.

>Elixir is a huge fag anyway, he prefers the shitty X-Mode.

You mean that thing only available in the Xbox 360 version?

I for one like the second game better than the first.

>>5547145
The port quality is certainly worse than the earlier efforts, but it's pretty good with the patch. The lack of initials is still presents and hugely retarded.

Yep, the 360 mode, which looks nicer but the scoring system is simplified way too much. There's no depth to it.

>>5547165
I love DS2, but I think it's not up there with the prequel. Both are excellent in their own ways.

>>5547015

700€ ;_;

http://cgi.eb
ay.it/New-JAPANESE-Xbox-360-Arcade-Console-Jasper-DEATH-/310230134246?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_VideoGa
mes_VideoGameConsoles_VideoGameConsoles&hash=item483b282de6

>>5547194
Yeah, shit's expensive. I paid almost 350e for a Japanese arcade machine. Add 220-240v brick, 60 GB HDD, arcade stick with Seimitsu's parts, and all the CAVE imports, I think I'm well past 1000e. ;_;

>>5547167
>The port quality is certainly worse than the earlier efforts, but it's pretty good with the patch. The lack of initials is still presents and hugely retarded.

The point is that they share the same opinion, the only difference is that one is talking about the game compared to the Arcade version, while the other talks about the game as a whole.

>Yep, the 360 mode, which looks nicer but the scoring system is simplified way too much. There's no depth to it.

The point is that he's talking about an Xbox 360-exclusive mode.

If you can't come to the conclusion that the game is poor over those two links, you're probably not in any position to import stuff anyway.

>>5547271
>If you can't come to the conclusion that the game is poor over those two links, you're probably not in any position to import stuff anyway.
What? I've played the game extensively since the port's release and loved every second of it. I tend to have my own opinions, thank you very much.

what's so special about the 360 arcade version?

>>5547271
>The point is that he's talking about an Xbox 360-exclusive mode.
I haven't bothered with that mode much yet, there's no point since the arcade mode is far superior. All the CAVE arrange modes fare in comparision to the "real" modes.

>>5547309

Lies, Galuda 1 Arrange is fucking awesome.

>>5547315
>Lies, Galuda 1 Arrange is fucking awesome.
Perhaps I should've added "all the CAVE arrange modes I have played".

I keep hearing good things about Galuda 1 arrange, shame I haven't had the chance to try it out yet.

>>5547067

EOJ and Elixir are two of the most opinionated people in the Shmups community. How about you play the game and judge for yourself?

...it's no wonder people listen to them.

>beat DS in 9 continues
>find it hard and fun
>don't give a fuck about the incomprehensible scoring system
haters gonna hate.

is this available on XBLA? or do I need to get a hardcopy?

>>5548072
Disc only. Kinda funny, since the game is only 1.4GB installed.

they have frilly clothes!

>>5546678
>Yeah, I like how the game is only generally talked about now that there's an English release.... Fucking retards.
This guess we will have to wait 2 years till you can talk about Mushihime Sama Futari and ESPGALUDA II even though they are region free.

>>5548632

I would like to think slightly more people bothered to buy the import of those two simply because it was not region locked. It seemed pretty highly publicized by Cave and the gaming media that cares about shooters.

Is Tyranosatan still the greatest end boss name, or has someone else taken the crown?

>>5548739

Satanclaws?

>>5546790
Yeah, I agree.

>>5548675
>$85 import price
LOL NO.

I'd love to have Espgaluda 2 on a bigger screen than my iphone but I am not a faggot.

>>5548975
>owining apple product
But sir you are already a faggot.

>>5548975
Sucks for you americans and your shitty USD, to bad Greece had to weaken the euro a bit

fucking homos

>>5548975
Flash your 360's firmware and download it, it's quite easy.

>>5548982
How?

>>5548981
>Greece
>weaken the Euro a bit
>a bit
>a bit
HHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>5548991
Well its not like the imports are priced higher than the shit here so whatever.

>>5548988
http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/topic/93576-how-to-flash-all-xbox-360-dvd-drives-in-jungleflasher/?s
=e119a4bcd2f2d1b3c8fca6923f0c1931

You don't even need to buy anything, assuming your 360 and TV are close to your computer so you can connect the 360's DVD drive to your motherboard via SATA.

>>5549009
Thank you very much, appreciate it.

>>5549009
will you still be able to connect to the marketplace if you flash the 360?
are there any disadvantages to flashing like is it possible to be detected and banned online or something or it has no effect whatsoever
thanks

>>5549214
Yes, you can still play online and buy stuff on XBLA. I'm playing online right now, and have been for months. It's not known whether or not MS can detect the current LT firmware, but if they can they've not done anything about it. The last major ban waves they've done were in November of each year, if I remember right.

>>5548975
Don't be retarded. Have you played GaludaII on 360? it is much, much more difficult and there are quite a few modes.

There was a new shipment of Mushihimesama Futari received at Play Asia recently. People who haven't checked it out should. It is region free.

Regarding DS, it should NOT be an XBLA release. I really hate seeing this mentioned everywhere.

>>5549366
lolno. Iphone version has the same difficulty settings as the Xbox version.

>>5549366
>Regarding DS, it should NOT be an XBLA release.
It's an arcade game. Why the fuck should it not be an XBLA release?

>>5549366 Regarding DS, it should NOT be an XBLA release. I really hate seeing this mentioned everywhere.

but.. I can't be bothered to buy this in person. SUNLIGHT! PEDO!

>>5549392
You could always order it online.

>>5549366
Yeah, I'm glad it wasn't an XBLA release. If it was, I would've had to pay for it.

>>5549374
lolno, normal on arcade mode is harder than advanced on iPhone. I've played te shit out of both.

Re DS on XBLA. Yeah it is an arcade game but it is worthy of a retail release. IGN are with you guys. I actually kinda like owning something physically I paid for.

Anyway Cave wanted to release Ketsui on XBLA and Microsoft rejected it saying they don't want faithful arcade releases on.... XBLA. I am happy buying it physically but it is still absurd.

>Ignore all tokens that come out of monsters
>Do extra level and have to continue 20 times to beat the game due to extra level difficulty spike
>Don't even look at score. Enter AAA for initials
Haters gonna hate

>>5549392
Read this review, I basically agree with him.

http://www.multiplayergames.com/2010/07/01/deathsmiles-shows-rift-between-gamers-and-value/

Beat Death Smiles II at the arcade, got the vampire loli ending.

>>5549500
Are you sure you're just not finding EG2 easier on Iphone due to the more precise controls on Iphone and the Xbox's d-pad? because I didn't notice that huge a spike, bro.

>>5549515
Meh, he fetishizes the dot-dodging genre and their inane scoring systems too much and so none of the points he makes work unless you share that fetish.

Take out the loli shootan from his post and make everything about indie platformer VVVVVV and assume VVVVVV is priced $60 and see how quickly his argument crumbles.

>>5549542
Sorry, I meant PEDO shootan.

I hope you guys are not playing this with the 360 d-pad

You should be playing this with a stick or well atleast the HORI PAD EX2 which is not a piece of shit-

Pro Gear No Arashi skullfucks Death Smiles to death.

Why do people have to learn their shmups from retail releases and not from MAME? MAME is superior, easier, quicker, has more variety than any set of console releases, and has save states, invaluable for making those 1cc runs.

>>5549519
Yeah mate. The patterns are much more intense. It is more difficult. Plus black label is a blast and arrange is good but admittedly I haven't played it a great deal.

Idont want to give the impression I don't like the iPhone port, it is fantastic and obviously the best shmup game on there. I can't wait for the next two.

>>5549597
>save states
>1cc

yeah, because it's still a proper 1cc if you cheat, right? Don't delude yourself.

>>5549597
>Why do people have to learn their shmups from retail releases and not from MAME? MAME is superior, easier, quicker, has more variety than any set of console releases

Because when playing through MAME people do not take them "seriously" people are tools you know.

>s, and has save states
depends what you mean if you mean train certain stage yeah sure but save state yourway throught a run?

then gtfo

>>5549602
Speaking of black label, before I consider wasting a stupidly huge amount of money on EG2's overpriced as fuck console release, does it have any DLC faggotry?

>>5549606
>implying save states are cheating
oh wow.

>>5549610
Not that I have noticed. Has arcade/360, black label, arrange, novice modes and omake mode in the disc.

>>5549615
As the previous guys stated.

Training certain stage using save states perfectly fine.

But save stating in a real run is obviously cheating.

>>5549622
lolno. It isn't like you're skipping any of the challenges using save states.

>>5549641
You are reloading you fucked up yes its cheating 1cc is beating with 1 credit no retries you lost your credit well game overrrrrr son.

>>5549602
>arguing about difficulty
Fun is the important thing bros.

>>5549671
People find beating difficult patterns fun.

Kinda like solving a really hard math problem

feels so good after you have accomplished it.

>>5549677
Bah, but if HARD GAEM is BEST GAEM then we'd all be stuck with IWBTG or playing NES games for the rest of our days

>>5549698
Well CAVEs arguably hardest game Ketsui is their best.

>>5549677
This. I enjoy the challenge.

Besides, I was saying there are differences between the iPhone port and the 360 port which there is both in difficulty and patterns. When it comes to fun black label and arrange are fun too.

>>5549542
So you want to buy shmups but don't really like shmups?

>>5549698
I'd be okay with that.

>>5549771
lol neet

>>5549737
Yes, that's an interpretation you could take away from what I said if you were a blithering idiot.

i bought this earlier today thanks to this thread.

now i'm bored with it.

fuck you again, /jp/ fuck you.

>>5549821
You literally have ADD

>>5549821
try actually clearing it or accomplishing a good score.

>>5549641
Yes you are. The point is to complete it on one quarter in a straight run. Why not just credit feed at that point?

As for why not use MAME, so Death Smiles runs in MAME? Didn't think so.

>>5549836
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE REIMU

>>5549855
they still have frilly clothes!

I-It's not like I like the game or anything!

What version of Mame isn't HURR DURR CANT SAVE STATE DUE TO TIMERS faggotry?

man, i love collecting worthless video game shit, but stuff like this and Agarest are just too... ugh

>>5549883
Just too what? They're completely different games.

i'm throwing the faceplate in the trash.

Caspa wants to do this to the majority of the posters in this thread.

>>5550070

Faggot.

>>5550108

That's fine. I wasn't going to use it anyway.

Casper > Follette > Windia > Sakura

Rosa = worthless shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak7AfsmZb8Q

I can't believe this got passed the youtube mod's LOL

>>5550116
problem, anon?

Thank you, /jp/, I just wasted a day playing this over and over again.

Some fag was too crippled to find this thread.

>>5549304
what were the bannings for?

I 1cc'd this today and got a 100+ million score. Rosa is my waifu.

>>5549641
>>5549615
you have GOT to be kidding me. you honestly think save-stating through a run is a legit 1cc?

this has to be a troll. i recognize that, but i am still getting trolled anyway. fuck

>>5553633
well he could be using it to pause the game and continue it another time
but if he's using it to reload then he's a fucking faggot

There will be alot of people who have not played CAVEs previous games like ESPRADE etc

I believe this will be pretty hard for alot of people to accept.

>>5554164
can't really blame them not playing something like dodonpachi is the equalent of not having played Super mario bros in the shmup genre.

>>5554379
some of us don't have buying japanese xboxes high on the priority list you know.

>>5554419
donpachi and dodonpachi is on jp psn if you have a psp or ps3 btw

>>5554419
>>5554419
>some of us don't have buying japanese xboxes high on the priority list you know.

You can play dodonpachi on the following systems
PS1,Saturn,PC(through MAME)

Not quite sure why you think all CAVEs games are on the 360...

>>5554419
>implying shittons of CAVE games DoDonPachi included is not playable on MAME.

Obligatory post of the greatest shooter ever.

>>5555179
You posted the wrong pic for Ikaruga, let me help ya.

this thread is making me wanna play esp ra de

wish i was at home..

also, PCB > port

>>5555295
not all of us are rich enough or have the space to own an arcade cabinet

>>5555319
i wish i could tho

>>5555213
Fuck yes Ikaruga

>>5555319
my egret 3 was £450, esprade pcb was £140

that's cheaper than all of my cave console stuff - before I sold the 360 stuff.

RS is better than Ikaruga.

I like Treasure's aesthetics and design but hate the scoring. CAVE, Raizing, Toaplan etc have put out worthier stuff than either game in my opinion.

>>5555363
agreed

not a fan of rsg or ikaruga

>>5555213
I respect your opinion but am inclined to disagree. RS and Iky are both amazing, however the latter is a bit too easy and linear in comparison and has far less content and design ideas.

I still need to play Mushihime-sama, Espgaluda and Ibara.

>>5555456
PS2 emu works well for Mushi, but Galuda is terribly laggy. For me at least. Ibara is fine too if I recall correctly.

>>5555359
that cab will cost me a good 1.5k in my country and that's before counting in shipping. didn't bother checking the pcb but it'll probably be over 100 per
the new 360 slim only costs about 500 and games around about 100 per
so yea 360 would be way cheaper for me

>>5555517
Australia? I am. If you get a slim consider getting the Asian one, it plays 99% of jap games and you won't have to get a stepdown transformer.

>>5555546
asialand actually, and yea i checked it out, asian 360s play all ntsc-J games, asian games themselves are nstc-J releases
thinking about it, it will be quite a massive purchase if i do decide on it, console stick games and all

>>5555507
Or you know, stop being a poorfag and buy them all.

>>5555732
Although, it cost me just over £200 for the 4 so maybe not bother.

>>5555732
Well I have Mushi and Galuda, though my ps2 is broken at the moment.

The scoring system in MushiFutari is so much better than the first game I think.

Dangun Feveron has CAVE's best scoring system.

>>5555869
My brain's refresh rate is not high enough for that game

>>5555869
Fixed
>Dangun Feveron has CAVE's best soundtrack.

Fuck yes Stage 5

Here for you idiots who do not have MAME and the awesome games from Raizing,CAVE,Takumi and other devs.

Roms
http://www.mediafire.com/?jnn1nzidmge
http://www.mediafire.com/?t5mymmmnyqy
http://www.mediafire.com/?hgniqzjwmzg
http://www.mediafire.com/?njinmzxmfkc
http://www.mediafire.com/?ztwuvmimmmx
http://www.mediafire.com/?b1wnjd2duzr
http://www.mediafire.com/?y5mq10jkjt4#1
http://www.mediafire.com/?z2t4y2zxmjn
http://www.mediafire.com/?nzxmejmcmq0
http://www.mediafire.com/?kmmmmujnoyy#1
http://www.mediafire.com/?jytajh25mtm
http://www.mediafire.com/?y0i4nmzyym0

MAME client
http://www.mameui.info/

Extract MAME place roms folder into MAME
Go to MAME and AUDIT
Enjoy!
Press tab to config controls ingame

Death Smiles accessory disc
http://www.mediafire.com/?tlzeizyzinm

Random booklets of shmups
http://www.mediafire.com/?2jymwzwmwjz
http://www.mediafire.com/?umkzz5zlimb
http://www.mediafire.com/?z22zldhyod4
http://www.mediafire.com/?okrzommyzyy
http://www.mediafire.com/?zjczmdjulym
http://www.mediafire.com/?dmeyjjvxzu0
http://www.mediafire.com/?jlfzlobi1tj
http://www.mediafire.com/?4mjkzltmqyy#1
http://www.mediafire.com/?dgwnytjhtyz

>>5556092

I would like to think that most people that know what the fuck they're talking about have had MAME for over five years.

>>5556129
I thought myself that but actually no barely anyone "cares" about games that are not released retail.

sad but true

Guwange playing through MAME LOL WHO GIVES A FUCK shit game
Guwange when its on XBLA

LOL FUCKING AWESOME GAME!

sad but true.

>>5556092
I've got about ten MAME shmups I really like to play but I will give this a download, maybe there will be something new and different in here.

>>5556143
Guwange is amazing regardless

>>5556161
Check out everything by these guys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_(company)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psikyo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takumi_Corporation

>>5556220
-Psikyo
+Irem

>>5556143

I have about 2GB of ROMS for MAME, plus a mountain of commercial games. Doing both ensures you have the very best of everything.

>>5556186
One of the best gimmicks in a shmup, ever.

>>5556228

>+Irem

Where's my Metal Storm remake, damn it?

>>5556232
What if you want to play Muchi Muchi Pork?

>>5556249
Then you buy the PCB or wait for 360 port.

Everyone should also get a PS1 emulator and play R-Type Delta and Gradius Gaiden. They're pretty good.

>>5556228
Agreed.

>>5556252
>wait

good one

>>5556228
Nope. I can't do without my Gunbird Tsu~

>>5556249

Good point. I suppose you might as well get an arcade setup as well.

>>5556258
Thunder Force V is superior to both of those, though.


But I'd rather play that on the Saturn.

>>5556313
I've never played a Thunder Force game.

I probably should at some point.

Border Down is also really good.. the levels branch depending on how well you play. Check it out especially if you're a fan of the Darius series seeing as ex-Taito employees developed it.

>>5556329

Mine are still shrink wrapped, because autism.

>>5556329
3D Thunder Force suck

>>5556329
4 is the pinnacle of the series, 3 and 5 are also great.

>>5556603
I heard 4 was good so I've been playing that. Does every one of these games have giant huge tall levels? I've probably missed like a million powerups because I was too high or low to even see them.

>>5556642
One level used that vertical scrolling stuff really well. You could go through the water and have to deal with a large enemy or take the narrow corridor above the water and kill smaller enemies.

Ikaruga is a puzzle game. Get this shit out of here.

>>5556737

I think you're confused.

I find it interesting that the president of CAVE considers Hiroshi Iuchi (of Silvergun and Ikaruga fame) a genius.

Normalfag here. Touchscreen control is best.

>>5556749
Not really, RSG and Ikaruga are to some degree puzzle games.

>>5556777
Ikaruga is a masterfully created game, there's no doubt about it. But it's not a STG.

RSG I haven't played. Is that shit working on an emulator yet?

>>5556850
Plays fine running in the latest build of SSF.

>>5556850
>Ikaruga
>masterfully created
sage

>>5556092
>official version of mame
Fuck you. Where's the offshoot build that actually has WORKING save states?

>>5556787
>shmup on a touchscreen

lolno

>>5556875
this nicca can't even sage right

go play your donpatch

>>5556787
Fuck yes EG2 Ipad.

Pity the only way to get shot select is with FOUR of those ugly buttons though.

>>5553633
How is it not? You're not skipping any of the challenge in the game.

ITT: pissing contest over who's the biggest loser.

>>5556951
Eye am the strongest!

>>5556941
anyone can luck their way through a stage with minimal loss and instant retries. the challenge is consistency; to string it all together at once. that's what training mode is there for. you play through a stage over and over until you feel you can make your way through it consistently, then you actually play one credit and hope for the best.

it's not a one credit clear if you're constantly reverting back to the start of a stage in order to make up for the lives you lost. that is basically a ghetto practice mode.

>>5556951
you

>>5557017
If he only uses one credit plus save states, it is literally a one credit clear.

But 1CC has connotations, so I'm not disagreeing.

>>5557099
sure, if you want to be literal it's a one credit clear. but that is disingenuous. a more accurate way to put it would be saying, "i can beat each stage in the game on one credit/life."

>>5557017
This pretty much. It is doubtful that someone could really 1CC if they relied on save states.

I want Pink Sweets but would prefer DDP DFK. Though I've heard mixed reviews for DFK.

>>5558874
>Though I've heard mixed reviews for DFK.
Haha... ?
I don't know of anyone who has played DFK and doesn't love it.

I think you guys are getting trolled by /v/ about the "save states aren't cheating" thing. Nobody is really that stupid.

Save states don't suddenly mean you can't fuck up. ALL they change is the amount of time it takes to get back to where you fucked up. And all that stuff is just arbitrary padding in the difficulty anyway.

>>5559422
let me simplify this for you nigga. if you can't beat a game from start to finish without a save state, it's not a 1cc. PERIOD.

>>5559500
Yes, and how unfortunate that the only value to be wrenched out of a shmup is to grind at such a silly achievement.

Doubly ironic that most shmuppers lambaste games like MW2 for being too short, but if they went for a "1cc" on them, they'd be playing 10 times as long as any shmup.

>>5559562
You can have fun with a shmup without being able to do a 1cc.
MW2 is a completely different type of game and way too long compared to a shmup. It doesn't make much sense to talk about 1cc outside arcade style games.

So what's the /jp/ highscore for Deathsmiles?

>>5561501
Dunno, but I have about a non-official 41 million after my first 4 clears. I expect it to be pretty a pretty weaksauce score, but I'm curious what others have nonetheless.

>>5561501
>>5561639

i have 113 million i believe. i'm like #4 on the non-EX leaderboards in the US version. it's probably a shit score compared to the japanese, but i'll take what i can get.

>>5559562
MW2 isn't balanced for a one credit clear as it is not an arcade game or an arcade style game. Two very different things. Arcade shooters are balanced for that. The only reason modern ones even allow continues is because they know hardcorefags will work on their scores and their 1CC attempts while is doesn't discourage casuals from credit feeding which makes operators money and gets them to order more games from you. Many older games you have no choice but to play on one credit.

>>5562049
I wouldn't necessarily assume arcade shooters are balanced for 1cc by any criteria other than that they are short. Game developers surely aren't savants at this sort of thing, and the 1cc institution only became grandfathered in because of that necessity to keep people's quarters flowing in. Provide them flashy graphics and lots of game overs without quite triggering that "DUDE THIS GAME IS BULLSHIT" mechanism.

That a subset of gamers evolved that deify the 1cc notion was purely a happy coincidence.

>>5561501
Well, I've beat the game about 7 times now and my high is 3087600 with Windia. Real proud of that run.

My high score is ~29mil. It is a lot of fun but I'm still playing the shit out of ketsui and mushifutari.

>>5559562
>comparing a FPS with a arcade games
Is this nigga high or something?

>jitterbug
>hard
seriously?

>>5562398

For the developer there's no difference between 5 people feeding the machine and 1 person feeding the machine a bag of coins. Go to a popular arcade and credit feed and see how pissed off the people behind you get, that's the origin of 1cc worship.

It has utility for gamers beyond those who play for score.

But why is PRO GEAR so superior?

>>5544209
That cover art is horrible should have kept the original one.

>>5564972
But I bet it doesn't say "loli" on it!

>>5565003
Atleast it looks "professionally" made not by some 12 year old in paint.

>>5564972
holy fuck we're actually talking about the game!

>>5564972

I like how Windia is being all loved on by Rosa and Casper on the NA cover.

>>5564972
USA likes to make shitty cover arts.

I feel like throwing this faceplate in the garbage.. it's just downright ugly

>>5565363

I'll take it, purely for fapping purposes.

>>5565324
The art always has to be busy as fuck to catch the attention of whatever 12 year olds are passing by.

>>5565363
OK, I'm not the only one.

>>5565403
I mean look at it

half of Rosa's face is even missing..

I wish more people would Import Mushihime Sama Futari
its a way better game, and there is alot more to talk about.

>>5565363
I like how aksys is going "yeah that's right, not even japan got this!", all smug and ignoring that it looks like ass.

Also PAL is worst than the US at making shitty cover art, see: Blazblue.

>>5565428
>there is alot more to talk about
Like what ?

>>5564972
Even Japanese platinum cover art looks better than US one.

>>5565440
>Also PAL is worst than the US at making shitty cover art, see: Blazblue.

Not really Blaz Blue being the exception overall europe does not even bother most of the times and just keeps the jap cover art. There are way many more examples of disgusting USA covers than PAL ones.

>>5565428
This.

DS if fun fun, but Futari is just awesome. It sucks because it was released region free as an experiment and not a huge amount imported it.

>>5565428

I have all of the 360 ports but I am enjoying ESPgaluda 2 at the moment. Still getting the hang of the score system, especially in BL mode this is really involved.

As for 1cc I can do arrange (no challenge there really) and get up to stage 6 in BL.

>>5565455
1.0 1.5.Black Label,Arrange,
then in every mode there is Original Maniac,Ultra and GOD mode in Black Label.

>>5565475

No Asada commented that there were significant numbers that imported. It still didn't seem to be a pivotal point in decisions on further games though.

>>5565480
Galuda II is Good too. BL is hectic. I am still trying to figure outthe scoring system though.

I'm not the guy you quoted too.

>>5565471
When Death Smiles gets a release in europe it will use this cover

mark my words.

>>5565498
Ah ok. Derp on my part.

>>5565375
>>5565440
>>5565471

So I heard you like US covers.

>>5565539
Gunbird Nooooooo.

>>5565539
You know whats the hillarious thing about that cover?

It was used also for the US version of Gunbird ps1...


I mean wow america. they are not even part of the same series...

>>5565544
No thats us Castle shikigami this is Gunbird which is mobile light force 1 for ps1

>>5565551

>>5565539
!
PC-98 Marisa!

There's a really detailed post at shmup forums that explains some of the mechanics.

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6281

I'm not even going to try to summerise it but basically you need to learn it, get a feel for good moments to use kakusei shikai mode/etc. even if you're playing for survival or you're going to get no extends and depend entirely on skills for dealing with clouds of bullets (good luck).

>>5565570

sorry this was in response to >>5565499

>>5565570
Gotta love strategy board index
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1896

USA has always been shit when it comes to covert arts

>NEMESIS is US/EU arcade release name of Gradius.

>>5565671
PAL

Goddamnit, why did they delete that Taiko no Tatsujin thread?

>>5565690

Apparently rhythm games aren't otaku culture but good luck making a thread for that in /v/ without the pc gaming master race calling them "not real games" and GH fags filling the thread.

>>5565719
You can't even mention shmups on /v/ without a flood of idiots screaming weeaboo shit etc.

>>5565690
Must have gotten caught in the crossfire. I have no idea why Taiko of all things wouldn't be /jp/ related.

>>5565733
There's that wt shmups tripfag but seriously he doesn't know shit and doesn't help the situation

Anyway that's enough of a meta derail

http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e100718054

I've been watching this auction for a while with lewd eyes but damn there is no way I am spending that much on a dakimakura cover.

you know you want to, it's only twice as expensive as a normal cover

>>5565733
/v/ usually has good discussions just has to be the right folks on at the right time, then there is obviously always the dumbass that makes a post LOL WEABOOOO XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD everyone ignores them anyway.

>>5565735
I'll make another if nobody has any objections. The new DS game just came out, there's no way I'm going to /v/ just to discuss that.

I just like shootan games

>>5565551
>>5565539

>>5565827
No Reco for you then.

>>5564972

I think you're confused. The art shown in the OP is from the Japanese limited edition. Top two in the image I'm posting is from the Japanese standard and limited, and bottom is the NA release.

>>5565471

Yeah, that is pretty nice, but it doesn't change the fact that there's a bit of a misunderstanding.

>>5566362
Jap standard and platinum have good cover arts the jap limited and US ones look like horse shit imo its more of a picture that should be a in a artbook etc which it actually is though.

>>5566390

Ok, that clears things up.

We all know Mushihime Sama Futari skullfucks Death smiles in every way.

>>5566439

Yeah, pretty much, but I continue to like Deathsmiles because I am a huge pervert.

>>5566439
actually pretty much every cave game>death smiles

except for donpachi

>>5566532
what's wrong with donpachi?

>>5565733
Actually, yes you can. /v/ has often had 200 post shmups threads.

It's usually that W. T. Shumps tripfag who manages to shit them up though.

>>5567274
The faggot spends half his posts talking about how Touhou is trash and then gets surprised when the entire thread becomes Touhou and Touhou floods ensue.

>>5567278
>>5567278
>Touhou and Touhou floods ensue.
Then everyone else counters with arcade posters and other pics.