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For a short while.

experienced lucid dreamers can use "save points"

Yes essentially.
Of course, it's not as easy as just doing what's on that guide...

For most it takes about 3-5 weeks of practice to start finally lucid dreaming.

This is hard for me, since I have itchy skin and a shitty mattress.

If anyone manages to do that, try to conjure up some monstrosity or otherwise do something to kill yourself, in your dream I mean.

>>5628836
Teach me, sifu!

>>5628830
haha, saw this thread on /v/.
Actually I've been a lucid dreamer for quite a while now,
its rare to get your waifu to star in the dream because of the brains tendency to bring up deep thoughts and situations.

I say it time and time again, it is a matter of craving control in your dreams. Instead of passively accepting what is happening, attempt to make decisions.

It will blow your mind how the dream will construct itself in the direction you move it.

Sorry, not very helpful for people who've never had these dreams before, I haven't had a good lucid dream in probably a few months or so

tried this a few times and didn't like it. sleep paralysis is an incredibly uncomfortable sensation.

>intentional sleep paralysis
Not a good idea bro.

I've tried this numerous times, failed every single time. I can always hold the urge to itch myself, but saliva always piles up in my mouth, and I'm pretty much forced to swallow it.

And for experienced lucid dreams, I think I love flying in lucid dreams almost as much as fucking in them....well maybe not...lol

but flying is fucking sweet in dreams

I thought that dreams were mostly shit made up by your subconscious, and in that case wouldn't flipping a switch or looking in a mirror often work as it should?
Either way, if you're under sleep paralysis, it should work to block your nose in the dream and try to breathe through it, as a check

Just don't fuck up. If you're not mentaly stable you might see some fucked up nightmares.

I tried once...did not work.. trying again and hoping that it takes me to mai waifu.

>>5628864
is it risky?

>>5628881
So you'll either be in Gensokyo or Yume Nikki?

No.

>>5628899
Worse, think about Nyarlathotep

>>5628875
The subconscious provides the imagery and contextual situations of your dreams. I'm almost certain that our DNA provides a significant portion of the depth-ness and completeness of in dream stimulations

>flipping a switch or looking in a mirror often work as it should
This is sort of low level tricks to test yourself but yea the mental loop cycles of asking yourself am I dreaming right now, I should try this is obviously not limited to just these things.

I can't honestly count the number of times I've convinced myself I wasn't dreaming in my dreams but really was and carried on like I was awake

>>5628865
holy fuck this ;_;

>>5628893
No. It just feels really uncomfortable.

I managed to make my body go into sleep paralysis a few days ago, but my mind was completely awake and didn't seem like anything was going to happen. Lay there for about an hour waiting for something to happen, but nothing.

>>5628830

I'm too afraid of sleep paralysis to try this.
I think the fact that I am claustrophobic would really fuck me up.

so what does sleep paralysis do? does it have after effects? or shit that stays with you forever?

Every time I get into sleep paralysis,I start to think of horrible terrifying thoughts that wake me up.
I can't help it.
I have been able to do it once though. I flew around like a mother fucker, surprisingly its difficult to do. And I could jump like 500 feet high.

>>5628934
Uh, sleep paralysis is just what your body does to make sure you're not jumping around in your bed.

Sounds like a bad acid trip, man.
Brown acid.

I feel like the only risk here is not being able to fall asleep all night and fucking yourself over if you have to go to work the next day.

I am extremely tempted to try this, but I know I'll fall asleep at my desk if I fail to get any actual sleep...

I don't need to be lucid to enjoy my dreams anyway.
The other day I had a dream that I had a real live 2D girlfriend, and we lived as happy newlyweds in our city apartment, fucking each other on the shag carpet as often as we pleased. It was more than a little awkward, because she was actually 2D! My brain constructed the scene just like an H scene in an eroge, so I just saw my disembodied penis entering her over and over again, while he body remained completely still except for sudden CG changes, such as her eyes closing or her mouth opening.
Despite the difficulties, it would have been a pretty good circumstance, except for one thing: She wasn't the only 2D girl in the world. We had a stalker. Every time I was about to cum on her (not in her, of course), Tousaka Rin would appear outside the window and force her way, and somehow magically block my cock.
I know this seems crazy, but it was a dream, right? Anything can happen! I tried to explain to Rin how inconvenient it was for us to have her keep showing up, but she was so tsuntsun about it that I couldn't get anywhere. She was basically haunting me like an angry phantom.

In the end, I woke up feeling as sexually frustrated as ever.

>>5628830
>Looking in a mirror
Bad advice, sometimes you'll see a horrible creature and it might turn into a nightmare.

I have a damn vivid imagination. My dreams are so fucked up, I don't need to lucid dream.

I can get the sleep paralysis part with that pink leotard mp3. You know the one. I can never get the hands free ejaculation bit, though.

>>5628934
Sleep paralysis occurs when the brain awakes from a REM state, but the body paralysis persists. This leaves the person fully conscious but unable to move. The paralysis can last from several seconds to several minutes "by which the individual may experience panic symptoms
(Wikipedia)

>>5628954
Then that means that every day is a nightmare...

I can't properly do it. The best I can achieve is a realisation that I am dreaming and that I better switch my consciousness off so I can keep dreaming.

>>5628972
Yea, some of my best lucid dreams come after a few rewakes during the night. Some where between Stage 2 & Stage 3 REM.

>induce sleep paralysis
>abducted by UFO

Stupid way to lucid dream.

Meh, these days personally I prefer to let my dreams wonder and just react to whatever the hell my brain has concocted.

That said reading this makes me want to meddle with lucid dreaming again. That method of going to sleep sounds pretty wonky though. I always just focused on realizing I was in a dream (learned this young, had so many nightmares it was a necessity) and from there went wild.

I never had full control though. Like, sometimes I would want to wield a sword or something, but half the time I'd just be imagining the sword in the dream (it wasn't real) and I'd feel like a retard when swinging it did nothing. So yeah, summoning items/people was hard for me, but controlling time was cake. If something happened that I didn't like I'd just rewind lol.


For those thinking of messing with this: try doing this in the morning on a weekend. When you wake up all groggy just sit there on your back and go back to sleep. Personally I'm nearly always guaranteed a dream when this happens. Also it's not uncommon for me to experience sleep paralysis here... I actually didn't know what that loud rushing sound was all about till I read this.

/rambln'

>>5628972
and whats so bad about it?

>>5628987
Lol'd so hard.

Holy shit, I just read the full thing.
DON'T FUCKING CLICK LIGHT SWITCHES, everytime I do that shit turns into a nightmare.

>>5628846
Do my RL stats raise by killing myself during a lucid dream?

>>5629000
The thought of it scares me. I just can't stand the feeling of being alone, vulnerable, and unable to move...
Also, I have a pretty wicked case of claustrophobia, so that doesn't help anything either..

>>5629000
You may experience nightmares without being able to move or wake up.

>>5628998
>So yeah, summoning items/people was hard for me, but controlling time was cake.
Hmm, interesting, similar backgrounds in how the lucid dreams started for me as well. And especially the time stopping part, I think that was one of the first type of lucid dreams I had. I really learned how to control things from those dreams.

And not to mention banging people in stop motion was always an instictual thing for me, lol.

Yea, never really summoned things outside of the context of the dreams, kind of moving or deciding within the realm and theme of the situation I find myself in.

>. Personally I'm nearly always guaranteed a dream when this happens.
Good advice. may get anon in the lucid front door

>>5629038
tl;dr

And then a skeleton popped out?

I started practsing lucid dreams some years ago.

They warned wetting the bed could come as a side effect of the training, and since it was happening to me every night, I decided to let it go.

Goddamnit, everytime I'm close to falling asleep, my breathing slows down, and if I'm trying to stay awake, it feels like I'm running short on air and that makes me conciously take a deep breath and taking me out my falling asleep shit.

>>5629053
Pissing on the floor shouldn't be a problem though

>>5629036
Woah, that does sound terrifying...
Shambling, grotesque, Dead Space-induced horrors ripping me to shreds or tender love with my waifu...
Wouldn't there just be a way to wake up somehow? Like thinking loudly "WAKE UP" or something.

Fuck, I've actually been forced to get up and turned my lights off, this thread has terrified me

For the guys experienced in lucid dreaming,
I have some practice with making myself fall into a trance for hypnosis and stuff, this doesnt sound that different, do you think that my experience in that could help me with lucid dreaming? I would love to be with mai waifu if only for a while.

>>5629066
You might see those creatures crawling towards you with your own eyes if you open them during sleep paralysis.

>>5628954
Yeah, those tips definitely won't work for everyone. For myself:
>Fiipping switch
Classic nightmare fuel. At the very best it makes things more complicated.
>Mirror
Eh, I'd probably just see myself. Or what you said and see something ridiculous.

I always just asked myself the question "is there any doubt that I'm awake?". The reason being that when you're actually awake there is never any doubt, while in a dream you're usually unsure. Once I could answer "yes, there is a doubt" I'd realize I'm dreaming and then PARTY TIME

For me, I started lucid dreaming around when I got to the point where I could always remember my dreams, which happened because I had to keep a dream diary for school. It just started happening naturally. After I stopped writing down my dreams I stopped remembering them, and I also stopped lucid dreaming.

>>5629023
>>5628954

this is the peanut butter cookie recipe for your head

>>5629070
>making myself fall into a trance for hypnosis and stuff
I'm not sure the two paths cross. Personally I don't believe intelligent people can be hypnotized, only the ones who have become so attached from their deeper mental processes that they've never even considered viewing things is various ways.

>>5629082
>I'd realize I'm dreaming and then PARTY TIME
Extreme hard mode: Accidently waking yourself up during an amazing lucid dream testing yourself but then returning back to the lucid dream.

I've only been able to that a handful of times. Its kind of sad when you lose one you don't want to let go

Ok guys. I know no one is gonna listen to me, but you're not gonna meet your waifu, you're gonna meet yourself, you monster!

>>5629095
Every time I try to keep a dream diary I don't know what to write or where to start from. A lot of the time I can only remember small details, or what I dreamed about was just so weird it's hard to put into words.

i have lucid dreams all the time ... but my vision starts blurring very fast until the point which i can't see anything..so i have no choice but to wake up

>>5629115
You get better at it with practice. I think getting in the habit of being more aware of my dreams was what led me to start lucid dreaming.

So how exactly do you do this?
Wake yourself up about 4-6 hours later and then try to do what the picture suggests?

>>5629123
Yeah! That happens to me too!
I fucking hate it when I know I'm dreaming, but I can't SEE anything. Of course turning on more lights doesn't work, and for some reason I can't modify my own senses... Maybe I'm not "lucid" enough yet.

>>5629095
>After I stopped writing down my dreams I stopped remembering them, and I also stopped lucid dreaming.

Ahh, I probably should of done this considering the history logs I could of had but I've always been against keeping diaries, I keep them in the mind.

But yes, you have to actively refresh a dream experience to remember it, the way memory works sometimes if you don't do so in just a few hours after you wake you could lose so much of what happened in the dream.

>>5628881
This is why I'm scared of doing it, I don't want to see some scary stuff.

>>5629138
>could of
Please don't do this.

>>5628830
I tried this but i never can go through with it. While im lieing down, i can feel my hands and legs go numb, it is a weird feeling, its that same feeling when your foot falls asleep. Im just going to try it the other way by making reality checks a habit and keeping a dream diary.

I remember the first time I ever had a lucid dream, I wasn't even trying.

I just remember walking around, being aware that it was a dream, and thinking "man, I am SO posting this on Uboachan."

Then I looked in a mirror and I had a long toriningen-like face.

>>5629145
Same, plus while doing so you'd be nagging at yourself, "Don't fuck up, don't think about horrible things" and bam, insta-nightmare.

You know, I've actually had a lucid dream once. But I realized half way that I was dreaming, so I didn't have much time to do stuff. I tried to summon a Patchouli, but failed miserably. So I just flew around and explored the world for awhile. Funny thing is, I wasn't even trying to lucid dream, in fact, I gave it up after failing so many times.

I guess I just have to keep trying.

>>5629104
Once I'm in a lucid dream, I find it's actually really easy to go back into if I wake up, but only if I was really tired in the first place. However, it usually changes into something else fairly quickly and doesn't continue along the previous lucid dream.

>>5629162
Just think about dreaming, think about it during the day, before sleep and when you wake up.

to the expert lucid dreamers:

how long does your dream last?... hours?, minutes?.

do you remember everything that happened in the dream?

if you want to wake up (in case of nightmare), how do you do it?

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>>5629000
I wonder if I should repost that dream I had using this method.. The one about the inanimate dragons...
Maybe I could repost and clarify and identify a few more things that were fucked up about that dream and give you a better idea of how fucked up a WILD is.. Maybe I could post a few links explaining other people's experiences...
>>5629082
Yume Nikki much?

>>5629178
It's not like anything you think about in a lucid dream instantly happens, or at least not in my experience. I've never had nearly that much control over my dreams.

>>5628875
Strangely enough, this is true. Flipping a light switch, looking in a mirror, and opening a book are all things that don't work properly in dreams. I don't know the science behind it, but I'd imagine that it'd take a bit of thought process that you just don't have when you're sleeping to change details like this. If you flip a light switch, the whole environment has to reflect this change. You need to have shadows drawn, the room needs to obviously get brighter, certain material should shine more than it does, etc. Looking in a mirror means you'd have to create an image of what's behind you as well, as simultaneously creating an image of what's in front of you. Reading a book means you'd have to create the text written inside it. Books will always be blank pages in your dreams.

The cover of my manga in my dreams still have images, but I don't remember if they have any text on them.

>>5629220
>how long does your dream last?... hours?, minutes?.
The good ones I have feel like fucking adventures but obviously, short and sweet ones as well. As for the time frame, I don't know in real time, sometimes I have really short seeming dreams that can last like 3 hours but I never am really looking at clock during these things.

do you remember everything that happened in the dream?
Not only what happened, but how and the feeling of the actions you took. This is the best part about lucid dreams.

if you want to wake up (in case of nightmare), how do you do it?
I am pretty amazed at my ability to sniff out the nightmares early, I've had an extensive history of being able to jump out of dreams. Loud sounds in the dreams also have a way of literally shaking my stimulation so much that I'll awake, that and intense yelling.

Lucid dreams can be a very emotional experience, another reason they are so awesome but I'll admit I'm a pretty successful seeker in my dreams, I usually get what I want in my dreams, not forcefully but through naturally driving towards my wishes.

>>5629243

So if there isn't anything in these gaps the dreams cant fill, are they just mentally blank or does your head fill them with what it thinks is fine and you either get awesome stuff or you get "oh god I can see forever" mindrape? I've actually never noticed these broken bits before.

>>5629182
Same kinda thing happened to me. I gave up for a couple months, then one night I was dreaming that I was flying and I was aware of it. Turning was kinda hard though, if I forced it, it wouldn't work. Too bad it only lasted about ten minutes.
Now that I think about it, it was around the time of the HARMONY spam.

>>5629250
how do you do it?, I mean, step by step. please.

I fuck my waifu every night in gensokyo... fuck year

>>5629080
>creatures crawling towards you with your own eyes if you open them during sleep paralysis.
Knowing this puts a whole lot of pressure to not do something that triggers such a scenario.

>>5629243
>and opening a book are all things that don't work properly in dreams
>Books will always be blank pages in your dreams.
Not true actually, just in the last few years I've just been able to start reading in dreams, fucking took forever to do this and usually its non sense stuff that is written but its not blurry for me anymore, not that its that rewarding but just another piece I've filled in my lucid dream experience attained.

>ke a bit of thought process that you just don't have when you're sleeping to change details like this
Different portions of brain are critical to bouncing information off of each other, in sleep mode obviously some brain functions are at low levels of activity and you won't get that function.

I've been messing with lucid dreaming for about a month now. I've never been able to fully go into one using WILD (OP's image), because it's like I feel this darkness crowding around me and my mind goes "Whoa, hold up, buddy," and I snap out of it.
It's strange though -- since experimenting with lucid dreaming, I've had this sort of weird half-lucidity in almost all of my dreams. For example, the other night, I had a dream in which an acquaintance of mine attempted to kill me -- I wasn't completely lucid, because I wasn't leading the dream in that direction; I wasn't thinking to myself constantly "This has to be a dream." And yet, when he lunged at me, I held up my hand and said "Fuck you," and suddenly woke up; so I had this strange half-lucid power. Like I was unconsciously able to control everything.

As for the light switch and mirrors, that stuff has never worked for me. Whenever I flip a switch in a dream, lights turn on, and whenever I look in a mirror, I see myself. When I look at my hands, five digits on each hand stare back at me, and I can hold my nose and breathe -- although sometimes underwater or in space.

I've yet to meet mai waifu yet.
Yet.

I usually dream about being at school or college. In those cases, I just pick a book and try reading a few lines, then look away, then read the same lines again. If I'm dreaming, I'll read something different or nonsensical the second time.

And about the lights, I only try that to turn lights on. Turning them off is usually not a good idea, at least in my case.

Have there been cases where people haven't been able to snap out of sleep paralysis?

Wait, honest question from experience lucid dreamer here.

Have any of you guys dreamed in 2D, honestly I can only recall one dream in my lifetime where I was like in a video game like dream and it still was like a made for T.V. movie.

I'm curious, have people dreamed in pure 2D at all?

>>5629268
Master Spark them bitchs or wip out some Hokuto no ken

>>5629317
Of course, you can't expect to be able to jump out of every dream, I've had some pretty bad nightmares back in the day.

But the fear tempered my brain into this ability I have

>>5629317
If there was, we would have heard about it a billion times by now.

>>5629317
It's chemical, so no.
As someone with sleep paralysis, it always wears off.
Sleep paralysis sucks for me though, because when I wake up, all my voluntary muscles don't work for like two minutes, and when I wake up I'm always trying to breathe manually, so I'm stuck with the sensation of being completely immobile and unable to breathe until it wears off.

>>5629317
Not really. Sleep paralysis is something your body does every time you sleep, not just while lucid.

>>5629377
When people refer to sleep paralysis, they're generally referring to post-waking sleep paralysis

All I ever dream about is looking at the sky. I know I'm dreaming, but I can never change the scenery ;_;

I started trying lucid dreaming about a year or a year and a half ago. I finally started to get the hang of it and had some fun hanging out with my waifu. Then I heard about the light switch thing and turned a light off. I was playing Saya no Uta at the time and I haven't tried lucid dreaming since. Seeing your waifu turn into a lovecraftian horror that eats you isn't something I'd like to experience again.

Now that I think about it, I had one lucid dream. I realized I was dreaming after being killed in one of my dream. I was kind of pissed off and told myself "well, I should wake up anytime soon" but it was only dark and I couldn't wake up. I freaked out and I think that why since then everytime I start to think "hey, am I drea-" I wake up. Now I am not even sure when was the last time I had a dream I could remember when I wake up.

>>5629243
>Reading a book
Actually, reading anything is different in a dream.
If you look away and look back twice, the text will change.

>>5629265
Honestly, the skill is like chiseling out a neural pathway in your brain in a very specific manner.

Some people have the traits in their mental capacity to desire control in dreams and others couldn't be farther than a thousand islands from approaching the form of replicating this.

But the best advice I think is really that waking up and going back to sleep a couple of times. The deeper stages of sleep or the higher levels of REM sleep generally will trigger more illustrious dreams. But it is the seizing of your own actions in them that must be learned.

>>5629320
I do dream in 2D. But there are just objects or people not the whole picture. I'm afraid I can't describe it in english properly. But yes it's possible.

I almost have nightmares.

Almost is the keyword.

I see some scary shit, like shadow monsters and such, coming at me sometimes in my dreams, and for a moment I freak the fuck out and try to get away

But I remember "What's it gonna do, hurt me? Kill me? Ha! It's only pain!" and fight back.

Usually I get locked in a stalemate with a shadow monster trying to wrestle it to the ground when I wake up.

Anyone else fight there nightmares like this?

>>5629394
Deliberate lucid dreaming can help you overcome nightmares.
Also, most beginners wake up when they realize they're dreaming because they become overly excited.

So no 2D dreams here at all?

I personally don't think it is possible in a lucid form, that would take a marvelous mental level of roleplaying and character acting

>completely immobile and unable to breathe for minutes

Jesus Christ, how horrifying.

90% of my lucid dreams are me running from a horde/army and having access to an infinite arsenal at my disposal, super speed, and inhuman jumping.

10% is sex with waifu

Why am I stuck on shitty action movie mode?

>>5629427
>>5629410
Having manly dreams seems more prominent than I thought!

>>5629404
Out of sheer curiosity, are you bilingual and saying that you can sort of describe it in other languages?
I doubt that you are, but if you really are bilingual and can describe something unreal in another language, that would be some good knowledge to have right there.

>>5629420

Go ahead and flip that lightswitch.

>>5629259
The human brain is one of the most complex structures in nature, it doesn't get raped or broken by something that minor. It also can't "shut down" after seeing a weird image, or assorted other nonsense that /x/ spouts.

To answer your question, think about vision. There are many gaps in your field of vision that you don't actually see or fully process, but your brain just covers it with what it thinks should be there. Our brain is good at faking what it can't process, or what it's too lazy to process.

>>5629304
>I had a dream in which an acquaintance of mine attempted to kill me
>when he lunged at me, I held up my hand and said "Fuck you," and suddenly woke up

That sounds really fucking cool.

>>5629415
I remember reading that but I am not sure it's because of that. Most of the time I am wondering if I am sleeping because I am annoyed at something and before I even realize it I am already awake.

>>5629404
Yea its why I said the one I had was kind of like a made for t.v. movie. Its like I was in the realm but my brain's representations of the objects were obviously real life representations. But I understood the concept of myself to be that of a 2D character

To those worried about nightmares:(as always this stuff is different for everyone, use what works for you)

If you find yourself in one do the opposite of what you want to do. You want to wake up? Don't. That's the same as running away. Scared people run away. By taking an action that reinforces what you're already feeling you're just going to make things worse.

So what do you do?

If you see some scary motherfucker run at him yelling and aim to knock its teeth out. Summon a bazooka and go to town. Waltz into that dark room and start talking shit. Do something completely nonsensical that you find hilarious. The thing is that in a dream you don't always have control of your surroundings, but you ALWAYS have control of your own actions, even if that means only thinking stuff. It's YOUR mind after all, use this to your advantage.

Most of the time this will completely negate the nightmare and turn into something badass or a simple comedy. Even if it doesn't and you die in the dream or whatnot when you wake up you won't be scared at all. You'll be just like "THANKS FOR WAKING ME UP NIGGA". Even if it's a worse case scenario and you're still frightened that doesn't change the fact that you had control in the dream and took the defiant course of action. You'll be able to shake it off easily.

>>5629066
when you are in sleep paralysis you cant really wake your self up i have found. I just have to wait it out. I usually hear some pretty fucked up shit (screaming crying etc.). but ive never actually seen anything but my wall/ceiling...

>>5629458
Again! More manly dreams.

Srsly if this shit is legit anon his alot mentally tougher than I thought.

What's that, a nightmare? Get the fuck outta here!

>>5629446
I can describe it in my native language, my english vocabulary is limited.

>>5629477
>>5629304
>And yet, when he lunged at me, I held up my hand and said "Fuck you," and suddenly woke up

Lol, this is exactly what I'm talking about

>>5629477
I myself once said time out when I was about to be eaten by a dragon in a dream and he actually just stopped and I was able to just walk away.

Goto bed /jp/

>>5629477
Hmm, interesting advice, I tended to avoid the nightmare situations for a long time.

It wasn't until a few years after that I decided to fight back in those type of dreams. And that shit got fucking gory as all hell but I still found ways to win.

It was generally because the imagery was so fucked up that I would choose or recommend avoiding those dreams. Because even takinga a proactive approach I found to be a little disturbing in what was necessary to win.

>>5629410
I do, but only if I have no other choice. Having that huge homicidal rage and destroying whatever scared you feels extremely good.

>>5629479

I'm >>5629304.
It's funny that you're calling me "mentally tough," because I'm actually a giant wuss in most situations in reality. But dreams are different. Dreams will take you to the deepest pits in the middle of polka-dotted clouds and back, and common sense does not often apply. It's something like "dream sense."

>>5629104
I'm a wimp, never done it :(. I've never even tried actually, I've always just accepted that the dream was over and proceed to sit there pissed off. Think I'll give it a go.

I saw OP's pic a while back and tried it a few days ago

Had a nice dream about wandering around on the surface of a foggy lake with a girl. I actually found I could actually take over her body with my consciousness and become her, switching bodies and looking at myself.

Then some North Koreans showed up and started shooting at us and I escaped using a motorboat in a girl's body, watching myself firing a shotgun as I swore to protect myself.

i'm not complaining
but what the fuck

Experienced lucid dreamers - favorite sex position?

>>5629491
Please, do tell. We'll translate it somehow.

i have a method to wakeing up but it's slow and sort of stupid. continue what ever said action you are doing and calmy do the following (if possible stay still) say to your self your name (or what ever you wanna address your self by) and say it without looking around and repeat these lines [ insert name here ] now booting think of the loading sounds of your computer and try to picture every thin around you turning into a bright light. you should wake up

Only did this once and had a good memory of it, and it was just some random nonsensical generic dream.

Last time I had one where I had sex with Beato (not kidding) and we ate pizza afterwards. It was fucking awesome, but the ending is a blur. I fucking hate my memory. When I think I could be having all these fantastic dreams and forgetting them later, it makes me sick.

>>5629530
You became the little girl and protected the little girl all at one time.

>>5629513
Yeah that's just the thing, it's different for everyone. For myself the imagery is always very minimal, so even if I do "get hit" it's really not a big deal.

If I did find myself in a situation where I was spilling guts my first reaction would be to tear them out and throw them at whatever was the source of the nightmare whilst yelling explicatives lol. For me the more absurd and disconnected from reality things get the better, as that means I'm taking the dream less seriously which = less frightening.

...Of course I say that, but if things got really disturbing I'd probably take the same course as you and just seek to avoid it.

This thread is fucking popular in every board

>wrestling with shadow monster
>throwing own guts at nightmares while laughing
>flying at breakneck speeds
>telling murderers "Fuck you"
>fucking Beato
/jp/'s a pretty cool guy; eh does the insane and doesn't afraid of anything.

to add onto the flipping light switch, looking in mirror dream test thing.

try to close your eyes or cover your eyes with your hands. you will see right through your eyelids/hands. I learned this from nightmares....shit sucks.

One time my nightmare tried to troll me. I closed my eyes and saw through them so i covered my face and saw through my hands, last i tried facing a different direction and my dream summoned a mirror in front of me but i couldnt see anything in the mirror and i woke up.

>>5629589
Yea, I mean I would win but at what cost sort of victories, lol!

Fucking shotguns blowing off peoples heads, stabbing necks, exploding heads under cars. I mean yea you could win but the shit was fucking raw.

And every once in a while I'd even turn out to kill some of my friends in the process...

>throw them at whatever was the source of the nightmare whilst yelling explicatives lol.
Yea I understand that is the notion that you can fight and choose to face your fears that gives you strength but like I just mentioned the process often wasn't even worth it.

>>5629554
I'll write it down and try to translate it somehow but it can take a while looking up dictionaries and all. I might post it someday, I'm sure we're gonna have more dream threads in the future.

>>5628830
I tried this but I dont think I'll ever do it again.
I was in control at first, trying to make a happy dream with my waifu then she suddenly rapes me. I was happy at first but it went to a point when I wanted to wake up, I tried shaking my body and opening my eyes but it wouldnt work. I ended up wetting the bed instead, then I woke up.

>>5629589
You obviously have some experience with this. How are you with jumping in dreams. I found over time this was actually a pretty thing to deal with.

I've heard countless stories of people terrified of falling in dreams but I always knew the stimulation of jumping off heights in a dream would be a safe out and actually it became relaxing to a point..!

>>5629630
>try to close your eyes or cover your eyes with your hands. you will see right through your eyelids/hands.
Confirmed with ears as well.

I had awful nightmares a few years ago. Screams were a huge theme and I could never shut them out of my head. I eventually started going to bed with earplugs and they worked (whenever they didn't fall out in the middle of night)

For a while I had a theory I was hearing them in real life and couldn't shut them out because I was asleep. But I never asked my family. I was terrified.

fuck this thread's brought up bad memories...

>>5629624
/jp/ is alpha as fuck in dreams.

Too bad we're all omega irl.

>>5629650
>hen she suddenly rapes me. I was happy at first but it went to a point when I wanted to wake up,

Where you with hurk-hurk?

>>5629639
I await that time.

>>5629500
I can't I will die!

save me Ojou-sama!

>>5629705
FIGHT THE DEMONS

YOU ARE A MAN ARN'T YOU? WHATS THE WORSE THAT COULD HAPPEN? YOU'D DIE?

DIE A HERO THEN.

>>5629686
In my dreams i'm a viking!

>>5629716
That's fucking scary, I DO NOT want to see that.

This is perfect, now i'll never be lonely again!

Can I fuck my cousin if I do this?

i wounder if its possibel to share a dream or just jump into some else dream all together

Come on lucid dreamers, I want some responses

>>5629747
Dreams occur in the brain.
Brains are isolated from one another.

That would only happen if human beings were part of a hivemind.

>>5629635
Yeah man. Gotta do whatever works. I'll tell you what though, I'm glad I don't have your nightmares lol.

>>5629658
Ha! I'm not the only one then! Jumping off high places has always been one of my favorite things to do in dreams. Sometimes I'll be initially frightened (if I'm really high up), but then remember I can't get hurt and just go for it and have a blast.

Not completely related but I've always found jumping high in dreams to not be terribly difficult. That and time manipulation are pretty natural.

>>5629747
You mean like that Spongebob episode

>>5629750
I once had a semi-lucid dream.

I was on a train when I suddenly realized I was dreaming and gained control. I looked on the floor and there was a model solar system floating a few inches above the ground. My dream-sense told me that this was the REAL solar system. I kicked Mars out of orbit (note I'm still on this train) and my right foot started burning. The burning sensation was so intense I woke up, and the sensation stayed for a few seconds after I woke up.

How many /jp/edos here have died in their dreams?

I really need to teach myself to draw so I can keep a decent dream diary.

I heard that trying to do physically stimulating stuff (having sex for instance) is a sure fire way to wake up. Any lucid dreams have experience with this?

>>5629763
Been shot trying to jump a fence. Blacked out, and woke up feeling really awkward.

Wasn't a lucid dream though

Can I lose my virginity in my dream if I do this? ;_;

>>5629741
Yep, Reckneck-kun.

>>5629754
>Jumping off high places has always been one of my favorite things to do in dreams.
Awesome, I agree, I mean just the feeling of the simulated terminal velocity is exhilarating

>I'm glad I don't have your nightmares lol.
I suffered through long enough until eventually the gripping fears left and I knew I could dredge my way through them and the pain cycles reduced each time.

But on the flipside of that vividness and realistic nature of the nightmares I gained the absolute beauty of pure realism in my awesome lucid dreams, obviously the sex dreams feel ridiculously good but just some of the adventure dreams I have are amazing, like piecing together New York City in my brain.

There is no question the most rewarding thing is emotional and stimulating sensual experiences of lucid dreams. The brain is fucking amazing

>>5629789
>Redneck-kun
fix'd

>>5629789
No, I just really love my cousin. I think she is truly the most beautiful person in the world. I would do anything for her.

I don't think it's been explicitly mentioned yet, but for those wanting to mess with this remember that you have to put consistent work into it. Even if it's just mentally preparing yourself at night and running through your "realize I'm in a dream strategy" before you fall asleep.
It's been mentioned but dream journals are a great way to do this; they'll increase the amount of dreams you have in my experience. As long as you're always giving your dreams attention things will get "better".

I'm too lazy to do this myself though, and as a result don't dream as much any more.

>>5629410
I did once during an actual nightmare,
I was in a cold blue, metal hospital, after killing someone with an icicle. I wasn't sure why, but it felt he was going to incinerate me.
After going over to check the body, I wasn't sure what happened to the body, but a curtain opened itself and came into focus.
Behind it was a stretcher with a completely naked an unbelievably pale girl. When I went to inspect that body, it rose and caught me by the temples started syphoning my blood from my eyes with just a stare.
Soon, my blood became black, my face began developing desert soil cracks, and I blacked out.

My next visions lost all color. All that appeared after that was black, white, and heavily grained. I saw a long hallway, with nothing but hotel rooms lining the walls. Eventually it stopped in room 317 and finally came to my senses.
I was on a bed, unable to move my extremities, The entire place was black, save for the static of a television.
I wasn't alone in the room, I couldn't see it, but I could separate it from the rest of the darkness in the room. If it had eyes, they were pressing upon me, the television hinted that it was holding a sharp blade.
I felt it slowly crawling up onto me. Soon, it rushed up onto my chest, and completely blocked my view of the only source of light.

... I'm the type of person who wakes up after hitting the ground in a falling dream

>>5629779
Typically I findthe experience to feel so real and close to the real thing that I fool myself into not waking up

But at the same time I know when I cum I'm going to have to deal with cleanup afterwords but usually it doesn't phase me enough to draw me out of the experience.

>>5629763
I've died quite a few times in dreams I had when I was younger. Sometimes it was a 3rd person deal with me either waking up after watching my dead body a bit just forgetting about it and assuming another role. Other times it was first person and I'd die, feel pain, and then wake up.

>>5629779
Yeah, for me the closer I am to being "finished" the closer I am to waking up, with the end sometimes resulting in that mind awake sleep paralysis thing.

>>5629810
I take back what I said.

I recently read a study that said people who play video games will have nice, peaceful dreams that they like normally, but when threatened in dreams will go rambo and basically fuck shit up.

TL;DR if you want to overcome your nightmares, play more video games.

I manage to lucid dream quite frequently. It usually happens when I can rest for longer periods of time (like sleeping for 10 hours or more), and I have no problems controling time (and rewinding time) in my dreams. The thing is I can't always realize I'm dreaming, so I can't start to intentionaly control what is going on.

Honestly, cannabis is easier. Not quite the same, but I have some about once a month and that paired with some good music makes for some cool stuff. Just make sure you have a good set of headphones and a lot of instrumental music and you are good to go.

>>5629905
>The thing is I can't always realize I'm dreaming, so I can't start to intentionaly control what is going on.
Yea, trust me anon, its never 100% accurate. And some time the lucid actions are few and far in between for myself. Like the long elaborate dreams that I have sometimes there are few actual choices I make in them but there are so many different ways a mind can steer the direction of a dream, I think people may not understand this portion of it.

So has anyone actually tried OPs method? Or are there better ways of learning how to lucid dream

>>5629952
To be honest I didn't read a single line of it, I just love discussing the subject so much because of my experiences

>>5629908
I don't know what you are saying exactly here but if you are talking about inducing a sleep like trance state, the choice is salvia.

Complete darkeness, total silence, hold your hits for 30 seconds or longer.

But even still this obviously isn't the real thing

>flip a light switch, flipping on a light switch will never turn on a light. Most of the times it does nothing.

This would only true because you told me it does nothing, if i go into a sleep paralysis state, most of my consciousness will be difficult to access properly, this giving poor judgment. Getting to the point, you telling me it won't do anything will make it not do anything, because my unconscious mind believes it wont do anything.

>look in a mirror.
This is actually true, on the point i made above, under the influence of a paralytic state, the thought of a mirror doesn't make sense, it would most likely become a portal to (fucking GOD knows where) somewhere.

To be honest though, i myself despise lucid dreaming, when i was a kid (16-17) i used to have a lucid dream every month or so, and then after a lucid dream (it was one just like all the others, nothing weird or out of place) i awake with my arms and legs JOLTING. (as if i had a 'falling off a cliff' dream and smacked the ground before waking up) and ever since then i haven't had a dream. ( ._.)
(yes i know the human mind is dreaming 90% of the time, but i've never been able to remember them since years back)

Hooray psychology!

>>5629904

But /jp/ only plays touhou and VN's, how are you going to go Rambo if nothing here involves guns for the most part?

>>5630016
>and ever since then i haven't had a dream. ( ._.)
Hmm, thats a shame, you have to embrace the stimulation. Your experience probably set up an erroneous stimulation threshold and the brain chose to avoid the experience all together.

Sometimes when I wake up, I fell like I was just dropped on my bed. But I can't remember my dream before that, and I absolutely know I had one.

>>5630063
Pay attention in your dreams

turn lights on/off

>Uboa


FUCK THIS SHIT

>>5630035
In my dreams, I defend myself using danmaku and PSI abilities. Don't need guns when I've got those!

>>5630063
That's pretty common. I get it all the time. I don't think it's necessarily related to what you were dreaming.

I had a dream involving Sanae that became lucid, but when I realized it wasn't real, I stopped caring and the world disappeared for the rest of the dream.

>>5629410
Oh shit I missed this post *brofist*
>>5629791
>I suffered through long enough...
Heh, sounds a bit similar to my own experiences. I had to learn all this stuff on my own due to the frequency of my own nightmares. Took a while but things improved over time. I was a bit surprised when I learn that lucid dreaming actually had a term and people were intentionally experimenting with it.
>vividness
Huh, that's interesting. As for myself I wouldn't describe my dreams as being very visually vivid. Sometimes my dreams are downright splotchy visually (I don't realize this during the dream of course). I'm usually completely focused on some sort of concept or idea in my own... with me commonly being part of some story (fun!) or striving toward some goal. My surroundings are commonly an afterthought.
I've had the odd "solid" vivid dream though... and it really is enjoyable. Also when it comes to sex it's pretty common for me to lose vision and gain the sensation of touch in exchange; strange but I'm not really complaining!
>There is no question the most rewarding thing is emotional and stimulating sensual experiences of lucid dreams. The brain is fucking amazing
Haha, sounds like you go a lot deeper with this stuff than I do. I'm usually fulfilling some silly fantasy or simply dicking around.

>>5630054
i realize that already, i only actually realized i had been going dreamless when i missed my usual lucid dream by about a week, and from then i was determined to dream again. Needless to say nothing i could try and do worked.
includes self-hypnosis(lol what a crock)
those silly eye-cover things.
testing with wearing or not wearing certain articles of clothing.
even pep-talking because i was desperate.

Alas, i've accepted my dreamless existence a while ago.

>>5630063
Yea, that's what i felt like when i was 'jolted'.

On a fairly unrelated note, i have a friend who was studying songs that gave people nightmares about a year ago (he tried on me, i even told him i couldn't dream, naturally nothing came of it) but he did manage to find two songs that give people CRAZY dreams. Like falling into the pit's of hell only to die and (while still dreaming) wake up in a pot of lava being tortured by demons and shit.

the only info i got on the two songs is one is from a german death metal band (yea, go figure)
and the others just some 20-minute 'song' (i don't know if you can classify it as music) that's just errie background noise with drops of water into puddles and wind and stuff (it does have a small melody to it so it's not just noise)

i'll ask him about it next time it comes up.

>>5630124

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>Uboa
God i hope he is never in my dreams.

>>5630087


back in my dream, i was trapped in my room, can't open it, and my key isn't working. kept playing with lights and met uboa

>>5630138
>the others just some 20-minute 'song' (i don't know if you can classify it as music) that's just errie background noise with drops of water into puddles and wind and stuff (it does have a small melody to it so it's not just noise)

It's an actual music genre, look around the 9X.X dial on your radio at the wee hours and some college station will probably have some hourlong track of somebody raping a piano with an obital sander while a person breaks glass.

>hourlong track of somebody raping a piano with an obital sander while a person breaks glass.

okay you got me;

Lol-wut.

>>5630134
Yea, the vividness was as I stated before both a blessing and a curse. Sometimes, not very often I'll have a dream like the one I mentioned wondering the streets of New York City that I will just awake in sensual awe.

>Also when it comes to sex it's pretty common for me to lose vision and gain the sensation of touch in exchange
Balls deep amirite? lol! But seriously, it definitely switches onto how long can you hold and sensual ecstasy. I completely agree the visuals can kind of conk out for a bit.

>>5630175

Ok, it's an exaggeration, most have some sort of pattern to them and can be kinda neat, but if you just tune in it can be a wut moment, like tuning into an Alex Jones program mid segment only there isn't any words.

I want to hug Hatsune Miku ;_;

>>5629834
>My next visions lost all color. All that appeared after that was black, white, and heavily grained. I saw a long hallway, with nothing but hotel rooms lining the walls. Eventually it stopped in room 317 and finally came to my senses... static of a television.
The hell? I had nearly the EXACT same crap happen to me when I was a child. I'd have a recurring nightmare scenario where I'd be hunted down by the air cleaner in my room and eaten. Then I'd travel quickly through the halls of my house with my vision being black, white, and grainy like an old tv on the wrong channel with that same static sound blaring in my ears. When I'd arrive at my room I'd shoot towards my bed and wake up.

....Come to think of it once I woke up in the middle of that routine, and when I closed my eyes it continued where it left off. I eventually had to grit my teeth and deal with the rest till it finished. *has no idea*

Also damn man, that's what I call a nightmare.
>... I'm the type of person who wakes up after hitting the ground in a falling dream
stop being me >:I

>Putting quartz under your pillow can help.
Confirmed for bullshit.

>>5630205
i'll remember that, and tune in some time.

191 replies? Fuck you niggers, none of you experienced lucid dreaming, and neither have I but I have experienced sleep paralysis almost every night as a child and at least once every week as an adult today and that shit fucking sucks. You experience phantom pain; eyeballs being poked at, fingers being pulled to the limit, your teeth crushing each other - and meanwhile you try to move and squirm your body to escape the nightmare and lessen the pain but no, god fucking hates me and will not let me free until I experience it for what I feel was an eternity. The only reason I could fall asleep right after these episodes is because my mind is so exhausted after them.

>>5630236
>... I'm the type of person who wakes up after hitting >the ground in a falling dream
stop being me >:I

Do you two actually hit the ground now? Think about it a little, I've done jumps in my dreams many times but the dream always fades to black before the hit.

Now that I think about it, I've become so used to the sensation that I've actually made dream progressions out of a jump landing

>>5630241
LUCID DREAMING ISN'T REEEAAAAAL

Reported.

>>5630267
>none of you experienced lucid dreaming
I know at least 2-3 of us here have

>god fucking hates me and will not let me free until I experience it for what I feel was an eternity.
Ahh the torment of a nightmared child, trust me I understand more than you will know

>because my mind is so exhausted after them.
You still get the fear cycles, the brain just for some fucked up reason determined to cycle the most fucked up images your brain has seen all in succession.

I still till this day cannot explain this connective process

I can say that I did experience lucid dreams more than frequently for a period over 2 yers at least and I still had them from time to time afterward.

Now it's been years since I can remember my last lucid dream though, but my current state of mind has it harder to achieve lucid dreaming.
That is to say, nowadays I sleep better (deeper more comfortable and refreshing etc), lucid dreaming is after all a rather shallow state of sleep.
And one of my recent biggest "flaws" compared to before in the case of reaching lucid dream states might be the fact that my OCD is a lot less stressing nowadays.
Back in those days I really couldn't let go of locks (of all kinds) having to lock and lock them over and over again, naturally though I had to unlock them in order to be able to re-lock them.
And while this really was one of my least usual "dream glitches" to make myself selfaware within the dream (it really is a rather weak dream glitch inducing method), but I remember how I sometimes while dreaming was able to lock a door... and then lock them again, and againa and again, again, forver.
Now as stated above this was never a good dream glitch inducing method, (also nor really something without another with a similair OCD could replicate).
Fact was that, my strong urge to lock the lock over and over again ruled over my "reality" perception.
In reality, I HAD to unlock a lock in order to re-lock it, but the unlocking was really more of a hassle, the OCD itself was focused on locking locks, the unlocking was nothing more than an annoying yet neccesary act to re-lock it.
In a dream however it happened that I could forget that locks had to be unlocked in order to be locked again, and thus I could lock them infinitly without ever unlocking them.
And upon realizing that it was unnatural (and the lock wasn't broken), I could easily reach the selfaware dreaming state neccesary for it to escalate to lucid dreaming.

I had sleep paralysis for the second time ever. An alien was at my window barking at me.

>>5630267
Shitsux.

>>5630347
OCD entrance into lucid dreaming, wow, thats fucked up.

So what was your lucid dreams like afterword?

>>5630347
That sounds very complicated.

>>5630191
>Balls deep amirite? lol! But seriously, it definitely switches onto how long can you hold and sensual ecstasy. I completely agree the visuals can kind of conk out for a bit.
I wish haha. It's usually an "all breast buffet", which is good and fun but commonly that particular part of me will gain feeling from reality (my bed) while the rest of me is left feeling in the dream. This is completely disorienting and typically ruins the whole deal (FFFFFFFFF). If I slept on my back more this probably wouldn't happen... And yeah, it's most certainly a wrestle to keep the dream "right" with all that going on.

>>5630269
>Do you two actually hit the ground now? Think about it a little, I've done jumps in my dreams many times but the dream always fades to black before the hit.
Yes, when I was younger I would hit the ground, I would feel pain, and then I would wake up. It all happened very quickly but it definitely occurred... numerous times at that. These days however I've got some sort of subconscious understanding that jumping/falling from tall heights = dream = not dangerous, so I just land normally and the dream continues.

>>5630431
>This is completely disorienting and typically ruins the whole deal (FFFFFFFFF)
Awww thats a shame, no ecstasy?

>I would feel pain, and then I would wake up.
Shit, that sucks too, the only physical pain I get is from being burned in dreams but still this is something I can handle and it doesn't disrupt me

>so I just land normally and the dream continues.
Yea I don't know, its interesting, I guess when I first jumped in dreams I felt the fear and would pull out just before the hit, ironically I guess this was a very smart thing to do because whatever perceptual ending was never created and I was able to create a blankness for the experience and just experience the thrill of falling.

>>5630347
And while Lucid Dreams are mostly a thing of the past for me, I have had a rather interesting lucid dream experience from when I reguarly had them.
Also if you reguarly have lucid dreams reaching them again should become easier and easier as you can remember and more easily distinguish dream glitches and the perception of your senses.
That is of course as long as you still have about the same state of mind. And then I don't just mean your state of mind at the time you go to sleep, but your general state of mind of that period in life mostly. If you experience lucid dreams while you are feeling stressed, tired, depressed or something, then you might not reach them while being happy and or at ease.

This was quite some time ago so I might remember incorrectly, but at the height of my lucid dream time, I believe I had learn to actually recognize my in real life breath.
While sleeping you normally breath much calmer, or in any case differantly from when you are awake. I believe I could notice these breaths of mine and in a sense feel or heavily suspect that I was dreaming.
To be honest I am not exactly sure if it had anything to do with my breaths, I do however remember that I somewhat learned to somewhat passivly feel if I was dreaming or not, it could have been the dizziness I felt when asleep, or a combination of many minor details.
Alas I remember how I often all of a sudden just went "oh hey, I am probably dreaming, right? Well am I? Hmm.... Yes I AM!" and reached the selfaware dream state.
I am not sure but I actually do believe that I were a rather experienced lucid dreamer, I remember truly awesome moments where I could practically change my dreamworld at will, shaping walls, creating and holding fire etc etc, and perhaps most of all flying.

Best dream i ever had was that someone invented a 3d videocamera. So i went to a park, filmed for a while, went back to my house, entered the film and started to fuck everyone while in pause.

>>5630591
>entered the film and started to fuck everyone while in pause.
haha, stop motion is fucking sweet man, I don't get those types anymore

>>5630533
And I am actually curious >>5628836
Have you had these dreams for real as well?
I actually do remember being able to take short moments or so and make what I in my mind called "save points".
Being able to shape the world at will surely might give you a sense of "power", but it can also change the shape of the dream world drastically.
If I ever made something I regretted I remember how I could focus on a "memory within the dream" and basically "load".
Taking a moment and focusing on a moment beforehand could increasingly help my chances of being able to recall the memory later, given how memories (and save points) aren't always granted to be remembered. Even If I did "load" however I remember clearily how not always everything went back exactly as I remembered it, most likely because of how my actual memory of what I wanted to recall might have dissapeared or been altered since then.


And now while I have admitted to being able to learn how to teach these states rather easily, and being able to achieve rather high levels of control such as being able to shape the world at will and moving back and forth as through "save" and "load" points, I actually doesn't really miss it.
I could easily immagine how this might seem very weird to many who haven't experienced lucid dreaming (for all I know it might seem strange to some other lucid dreamers as well..)
But in all seriousness, while it was often fun and really spectacular in many many ways, I have clear memories how many many of these lucid dreams turned out to become nightmares, whether or not it was near the beginning of the dream or much later.
Ironically though I believe my tendency to have nightmares increased my chances of reaching suitable states for lucid dreaming.

Going to bed and trying this.

Wish me luck in gensokyo.

>>5630494
>Awww thats a shame, no ecstasy?
Usually not. It's enjoyable when it does work though! (obviously lol)
>Shit, that sucks too, the only physical pain I get is from being burned in dreams but still this is something I can handle and it doesn't disrupt me
Ah. I've never had a burning sensation before. The pain I feel is almost always a kind of dull, aching pain that suddenly strikes. It's not bothersome really, but sometimes lingers and is enough to get me to lightly massage the area after I wake.
>Yea I don't know, its interesting, I guess when I first jumped in dreams I felt the fear and would pull out just before the hit, ironically I guess this was a very smart thing to do because whatever perceptual ending was never created and I was able to create a blankness for the experience and just experience the thrill of falling.
Haha, that is pretty smart, and impressive that you were able to pull out like that. For me I think I had some incentive for wanting to land.. that being a rather juvenile appeal to "being special" or something the sorts. (there would be people around me when I landed I and would be thinking "HEH! CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!)

I’ll tell anon about my most terrifying dream..
it's actually a simple dream (i never actually wake up until the end)
i wake up in my dream, and i'm in my room, and for whatever reason, from the waist up, i'm propelled instantly into an 'L' shape sitting with the covers over my legs, however completely aloof as to what's going on.
hold on, it get's better.
i do it again, however this time, a painting on the wall is missing, then suddenly i do it again, and there's a dresser missing, over and over and over each time, i wake up i wake up faster the next time, barely able to recognize what went missing before waking up again from there i'm waking up quicker and quicker until suddenly it stops and i have about two second to look at my new empty room.
At this point i'm definitely frightened (i may even have been lucid at this point)
(cont.)

>>5630696
from there i'm propelled to wake up, this time with a small hole in the wall(completely black, the darkest black imaginable) and from there it cycles through violently waking up. Over and Over i wake up, each and every time the exact same way as the last, flinging the blankets of me as i wake up, faster and faster as the cycle continues until i'm not even sure what's going on to me anymore.. it's all a blur now
i am in a state of perpetual motion, all i can see is everything in the sequence of me waking up, as if i'm in a fourth dimension, watching the whole sequence happening at once.. this goes on for seemingly longer than i've ever lived my entire life.. in a state of perpetual fear, absolute desperation at the fact that i may never wake up.

then suddenly i wake up(for real) (IN THE SAME SEQUENCE) and i'm sweating bullets, i sat there panting for a few seconds, instinctively slapping myself to make sure i'm awake. i only know i'm not dreaming when i was able to get out of my bed & walk around..
soon enough i put it out of my mind and start my mourning routine and go off to work, needless to say it was on my mind for the rest of the day.

>>5630674

Remember, if you die in the game, you die for real.

>>5630674
I think I'll shoot for this as well, though it probably won't work.. that kinda thing takes a few days of preparation in my experience.

>>5630671
Another nightmare anon, I am not surprised, my theory in the desire to gain control seems like a prevalent theme for lucid dreamers.

>moment beforehand could increasingly help my chances of being able to recall the memory later
Personallly I've only experienced a "save point" from emerging from Stage 2 or 3 REM sleep, although I will mentioned that many of the themes from my interests and /jp/ browsing habits have very much so shaped a lot of the people who have showed up in my dreams over the last year or two.

And I am beginning to agree with the good feeling anon a bit when formulated a scenario type of lucid dream. But at the same time I am absolutely fascinated by the characters that appear from deep in my subconscious and no previous pre-thought

>>5630627
Yeah and it was awfully long, and it was not only stop motion, i could move them a little, thing like opening mouths, or legs.
I remember once when i was young and had a lucid dream, of course, the first thing i tought of was having sex. Funny thing is, i couldnt consive a posible way to do it.I had watched porn, and knew that ponos goes into vagos, but everything else escaped me, and having masturbated mostly to crappy hentai, i could use my onanism as a source.
I still laugh at myself bumping a woman and cursing because i couldnt have sex.

>>5630269
Yes, my dreams are always nightmares or ones of conflict.
More vividly was one where I was in a boxing match with a tornado...and I woke up with my breath knocked out after it tossed me out and let me hit the pavement.

incidentally, anyone ever fell into their bed again?

>>5630755
>i could move them a little, thing like opening mouths, or legs.
Awesome, that is the best type. And interesting enough my stop motion lucid dreams came early, real fucking early, pre nightmare even, like 10-12 range.

And for the pre-puberty turn ons for myself, I always and still feel urination in dreams to be extremely erotic. Not in real life but in dreams, the openness of urinating, the never ending stream and people watching this.

Again, this turn on doesn't exist in real life at all

I haven't had nightmares for a long time, but the thought of going through the OP's instructions, finding myself in a dream, and flipping a lightswitch to find out it does nothing unnerves me to no end. I like my dreams to make sense. If they don't make logical sense afterwards, then at least they make sense while I'm dreaming them. If I were ever to experience dream logic while conscious, it would probably transition into a nightmare.

And it'd probably summon Uboa.

This thread is so awesome, thanks /jp/

I'll stay up, until I'm really tired, and try this. Thanks /jp/, for giving me something to look forward to.

>>5630800
Well i actually used to have more lucid dreams when i keept a pseudo dream diary, i dont know why i stoped doing it, i think it was a convination of beeing busy and having to wake up and start preparing to leave, and due to this having less dreams, wich didn't motivated to keep track of all of them. Last time i wrote is from the last 30th of december, and i only remember dreaming once or twice between now and then. there was a time when i could remember 2 dreams almost every day. Honestly, the thing that motivated me to do it, was the need for a place where i could escape from reality. On that subject, have you watched the movie "The science of sleeping?" Its an interesting story about a guy who is constantly dreaming, not so much about lucid dreaming, but more on using dreams as a way to scape from reality. It was actually quite oniric, and i tough it was quite interesting.

By the way, for people who want to start a dream diary but can't remember almost anything about a dream, start by writting generic stuff. After a few days of writting stuff like: "I dreamt about something ralated with [X]" you start to recall more and more. And write it before 5 minutes have gone by, since you will start to forget stuff at that point.

>>5630671
As stated previously, unsettling sleep is usually better for achieving the required state of sleep, lucid dreaming itself is a rather unsettling sleep after all, if you think about it you aren't really fully resting while having lucid dreams, are you? You are at least not resting as good as you could have.

But yeah, the time perido when I reguarly had lucid dreams was a rather tough time in life for me, so nightmares was somewhat natural I guess. And I actually do believe this unsettled sleep (that also often sparked nightmares) helped me gear my sleep closer to what was neccesary, after all, if you fall too relaxed in your sleep (as you easily do while sleeping), then you have already failed to achieve lucid dreams as you can't sleep too deeply for it to happen.

So the fact that I almost never felt rested, combined with the somewhat frequent nightmares might very well be the major reasons for why I don't miss it as much as I could have (though sometimes it's hard not to remember the spectacular feeling of control I had at some moments)
But really, let me tell you this as a warning if you for some reason is serious about lucid dreaming!
An ordinary nightmare can be horrifying, having a "lucid nightmare" on the other hand, that is a fucking horror nightmare on a whole other level.
It's almost a bit funny I guess, the irony of it can reach really high actually. Even with all the super amazing power and control you may feel that you might posses while within a lucid dream state, fear is still just as hard to control within a lucid dream as in reality, if not harder.
I remember many Lucid Dreams gone horror dreams quite well. I could easily put shape to my mind, run as fast as I could think I could, even fly and do really really amazing things if I said so myself, yet in a single moment, fear could kick in for whatever reason, and then... it didn't stop.

>>5630696
>>5630718
>i am in a state of perpetual motion, all i can see is everything in the sequence of me waking up, as if i'm in a fourth dimension, watching the whole sequence happening at once.

Intense there...anon. Personally I become extremely frustrated with repetitive dreams or themes and put an end to them immediately whenever I can. But that dream is really like a definition of the loss of control

>i sat there panting for a few seconds, instinctively slapping myself to make sure i'm awake
I don't think I've ever awoken from a dream sweating but there is nothing like the pure essence of fear coursing through the mind

>>5630494
Not related to this post (too tired to search for the relevant one :P), but now that I think of it my initial "deal with nightmares" strategy WAS to pull out as well. I too could tell when things were beginning to fall apart and then attempt to get out of there. The catch was that my pull-out success rate wasn't where I wanted it to be haha. Sometimes I would just simply fail and other times I would go all meta and think I pulled out only to still be in the dream and in a vulnerable state due to be no longer realizing I was in said dream. It was above 50% at least (I don't remember exactly) but not amazing. That's when I adopted the rambo approach to dealing with them. It wasn't as effective strictly speaking (as waking up is always the best option), but unlike trying to pull out the result was much more consistent. I viewed it as the "safer" option. Of course as you already stated with you this wasn't a good option due to the more visceral nature of your dreams, so I imagine you became much more adept at the pull out than I was.

Anyways bed. Fun thread, didn't expect to see that someone's "dream history" was so similar to my own heh.

>>5630950
If I made something in my dream I wasn't satisfied with, I could always reshape it, or simply go back ("load") to a previous moment of the dream and redo it. IF however I ran in something that would scare me and induce fear, then all options started to feel useless. It didn't matter if I ran away from whatever scared me, either by "loading" or whatever else I could think of, the rather depressing thing that I was scared wouldn't change just because I ran away, I ran away because I was scared after all.
Thing is, in my dream my fear might take the shape of something I could run away from or otherwise destroy or obliterate, it still didn't matter though, because if I was scared, then I was scared. The fear would in reality lie in my mind, and my mind isn't something I can run away from or destroy while dreaming, the mind above the dream lies in a dimension above the dream after all, thus once scared I couldn't run, previous places where I could feel safe would quickly mutate into something just as horrifying no matter where I ran or no matter what I did.
I also remember how the fear could sometime get in the way of my "lucid dreaming" abilities or "dream powers". Actions I could normally consider easy could sometimes be entirly "sealed off" or otherwise much harder to do/achieve, something that in fact can feel really frightening to an experienced lucid dreamer in a lucid dream gone wrong. An otherwise comforting lucid dream ability I learned rather early during my dreams was the ability of waking up at will, I already knew I was dreaming/sleeping after all, being able to let go of the dream state wasn't that much of a stretch from being aware of it. And while I often could awaken from my lucid nightmares after having ran a while or after being scared enough, even the power to awaken at will was at times lost, and then I had to awaken by letting the dream have it's go at me.

>>5630986
It's almost funny, you could have control over the entire dreamworld yet not over your fears, and your fears could find it's way into your dreamworld and then you all of a sudden an element you couldn't control had entered, one that scared you on that.
But really, the most frightening fact about lucid nightmares... is the fact of how strong you actually can remember lucid dreams as opposed to normal dreams... it can feel really real at times, not something you want.
Also, you don't!! want to die while you are having a lucid dream! If you feel safe you might safe you might be able to ignore or simply not think of the pain, if you are scared however, that might not be possible.
How painful do you think it can be to die? You don't know do you because you haven't died, neither have I so I don't know either. One thing I do know however, is that the pain you can imagine while dying.. that pain can be really really strong... and it can also be very very real.
A dream might be a dream, pain is a genuine feeling though, let it be real enough and you will even fool your body and everything. I remember having died in lucid nightmares and woken up all sweaty with extreme pain all over my body so strong that I often wouldn't be able to move.

Anyway, I had lucid dreams for quite a while, I have my good experiences and bad ones. In the end though I can't honestly say that I really miss it. It often felt as if I had hardly slept at all, letting me feel like some zombie everywhere due to sleep deprivation, and the frequent nightmares (due to the state that also easily led to achieve lucid dreams without much effort) made super real yet surreal is also not really something to miss even though they weren't always like that.

FUCKING
WALLS
OF TEXT.

>>5630996
You should get new glasses.

>>5630967
>so I imagine you became much more adept at the pull out than I was.
To be quite honest I am still pretty surprised as to how instinctual I was at sniffing out the bad atmospheres -> nightmare progressions of dreams.

And even if I couldn't pull out I was amazingly good at censoring the most horrific aspects of the dream. I would literally close my eyes in the dreams to avoid watching people get gored or even just watching the faces of fucked up demons going nuts or wild

>lucid dreaming
You don't gotta landscape, why not ride your bike for like, a couple hours. Grab your iPod, fire up your favorite IOSYS album, and just cruise around in the evening. Push yourself, and by the time it's getting dark you should be sufficiently dead enough to want to plop down and snooze.

Although, if gaming makes you exhausted you can try it, but personally, I've never had insane dreams after long gaming marathons. But that's just me! Give it a shot, see what works for you!

Not masturbating should help.

Last call for 2D dreamers. Have any of you guys had pure 2D dreams alone not just lucid dreams?

Simply put, sleep paralysis is downright terrifying. It feels as if you're dying/going to die. Vivid hallucinations occur most of the time and horrible nightmares usually come as well.

Imagine waking up to see creatures so grotesque and terrifying and not being able to scream or move. You notice your chest is VERY tight and constricted and these creatures are either watching you or slowly crawling towards you. I'm talking Silent Hill. You feel as if you are going insane.

turned off the light to read this thread and am admittedly scared as shit

>>5630746
>Another nightmare anon, I am not surprised, my theory in the desire to gain control seems like a prevalent theme for lucid dreamers.
Yeah, I had tons of nightmares back then.
Anyway, would you be able to ellaborate further on this "gain control" theory, if you have something more on it?

I remember how things was rather shitty back then, I was in mid teens and I remember how both my school and home environment was highly unsettling.
Even if I knew I the situation barely had much to do with my own actions, I could never once stop thinking about all different kinds of reasons as to why things were or had became as they were.

I wanted to know, even if I wasn't even involved I wanted to know why things around me were as they were and I continued to think about it more or less non-stop, always.
And while I realized that thinking about it wouldn't grant me much, I already had pretty good hunches for most things anyway, besides I knew it wouldn't grant me anymore control.
I wanted to get all my facts straight though, I felt I had to have everything up to my then current position and situation layed out nicely in my head, so that I would know.
I never, and not now either saw/see myself as some control freak in the way of imposing rules and or other things on others or even things for that matter.
I have however realized that I by getting all available facts as straight as possible, I have wanted to have quite some strict control over my own planning, and I have to agree that I have and even now does feel rather unsettled if my plans or schedules fail for whatever the reason.
I believe I developed a slightly obsessive desire for knowledge, even knowledge might seem trivial to most, and then crafted some kind of system of rules and scedules, perhaps under the illusion of some kind of comfort.
Anyway, do you think this could have had anything to do with my lucid dreaming? It was mostly about the time I had these dreams I guess.

>>5631148
Ahh my one thread topic to visit /x/...

>Imagine waking up to see creatures so grotesque and terrifying and not being able to scream or move.
Personally, I have never experience true conscious paralysis but it does sound fucked up.

And we all know there is nothing fucking scarier than Greys coming to abduct and probe anon

I've had sleep paralysis problems since I was about 5. My overactive imagination didn't help either and it started to affect me even when I was fully awake normally.

I began to see shadows darting in and out, strange figures lurking beyond the light, strange noises such as hums, ticking, giggles and clattering like from pots or pans. I would begin to be afraid even in the middle of the fucking day and whenever night came my mind would begin to overreact to anything. Say I would go to the fridge to get some water and on the way back to my room I would feel the hairs on my neck stand on end and some unseen weight and itch would begin on my back. My legs would seemingly stop working and an overall sense of dread would overcome me. My chest would become very tight feeling and it felt as if I would want to scream, but could not. This usually occurs in my own house a lot.

Do aliens really abduct people when they're in a sleep paralysis? Sounds a little TOO ridiculous. And I thought that if they DID abduct people, it would be in a rural area in the middle of bumfuck nowhere where no one would notice the abductions.

>>5631214
>This usually occurs in my own house a lot.

The damn house is haunted.

Nowadays I'm usually dreaming about beating people I know. No, seriously, they are usually not relatives and they are just sitting on a cheap wooden chair with a desk front of them, and I want to hit them. But I can't. I can't even move. And they are not even noticing me. I'm just trying to swing my arm with full force towards them, but nothing

Sometimes, at least, I can move, but not seriously hurt them. I'm in like... slow motion, and I'm hitting with a strength, like, I want to pat them or something. But I'm sweating and gritting my teeth while my whole body is numb from straining.

Well, once I managed to rip someone's head off, and threw an other guy off from a balcony, but that's all

>>5631188
>Anyway, do you think this could have had anything to do with my lucid dreaming? It was mostly about the time I had these dreams I guess.

When I refer to the desire of having control, especially for nightmare sufferers, I speak foremost of the desire to escape the wild and almost perpetual hauntings of a pain induced dream world with no logical basis.

The control being a mechanism of the human attempting to navigate this strange realm and come out without unending emotional scarring or damage.

>do you think this could have had anything to do with my lucid dreaming?
It is a really interesting story to be honest but it sounds a little detached to the emotional aspects. But at the same time I can remember the extreme manner in which I would command my mind to operate in a way to not induce these nightmares. Not stepping on cracks, avoiding thought patterns, staying optimistic, clinging on to religious beliefs.

>perhaps under the illusion of some kind of comfort.
The mind that is continually busy is not contemplating

>>5629410
Yeah, I've fought dream monsters before.
It says in Exploring The World of Lucid Dreaming that you "can't fight" dream monsters but that's fucking bullshit. I've never done this in a lucid dream, but I have done it in a normal dream at least twice.
It's all about your mental state.
I guess Stephen LaBerge isn't a very competitive person... Well, okay, I'm not really sure if I've ever 'won' yet, but I've definitely gotten on the winning side before waking up.

For example, this one time, there was this robbery and the burglar comes up to me and "hits" me (I don't think it was a specific attack in my dream, it was something more like "you are in a fight you have been hit" but, of course, not expressed in words) and while I'm in this sort of instance where my body starts kinda falling to the left like he hit me in the check I just start to feel really bad-ass like "fuck you I'm not going to die because of your punk-ass" (...except that I don't ever say "punk-ass"...) so I straighten myself up feeling no pain and hit him with a fire hydrant and beat him a few times.
I'm not sure if I won, or immediately woke up after that, but I was definitely winning.
(forgive me if I double posted this. I posted and it said it was updating the index, but for some reason my post didn't appear even when I reloaded. Weird shit. Never had this sort of problem on 4chan. I'll delete this post if I see my first post of it)

>>5631214
>I began to see shadows darting in and out, strange figures lurking beyond the light, strange noises such as hums, ticking, giggles and clattering like from pots or pans

Is this recent too? To get over the basic unjustified fears of humanity, take a dose of LSD with friends around to support you. I guarantee you will rid the basic fears of darkness, figures moving in darkness, and unexplainable irrational hallucinations.

And no I'm not joking, just make sure you have friends around to make it a fun experience, even better if you are out in nature

I know for sure as hell I have narcolepsy.

>>5631240
Oh, the second line of my post apperantly didn't make it.

Other than how I reguarlyhad nightmares, I was also supposed to write how I was really scared of having them, and I really desired the ability to awaken at will, something I later learned.

But yeah it's kind of interesting I guess.

ITT: Liars.

>>5631255
Not really. This started when I was about 12-13.

Hell, week before last I woke up to the sound of someone walking around in my house. They...........it would start walking from my front door and stop just shy of the bathroom door just outside my bedroom door. I never saw whatever it was, just heard it. I laid there in bed the whole time this went on and the dread feeling was overwhelming the whole time. Eventually the heavy footfalls this thing was making stopped and I heard what appeared to be a whippoorwill's call.

I then just started crying for no reason.

Explain this please?

>>5631265
The little part of my mind that can identify with trolls had thought vaguely of posting something to that effect as well.

>>5631265
Dude, you jealous? This shit is real, controlling your dreams isn't hard shit, especially if you learn to do it as a protective mechanism such as chronic nightmare sufferers such as myself.
>>5631252
I've fought monsters in my dreams before, and I've won a couple of fights, but I usually lose sadly, although lately my dreams aren't about fights, but about exploring the realms of my mind. I've been raped in my dream before though... I was a 2D girl in my dream and was forced to scissor with another

>>5631275
Uh, you might be clinically insane.

>>5631275
>>5631214
You probably live in a haunted house and the ghosts are fucking with you for shits and giggles.

>>5631301
I don't find it very funny.

>>5631307
Sadly, hallucinations are generally associated with schizophrenia, if you still experience them, go to a psychiatrist

My favourite dream was... well, a somewhat lucid one. It was about exploring a dark world, where no colors existed, nor did any other living being with the exception of standard plants. Buildings existed by the way, it was like our world. Everything was very, very calm, and as I ventured into this dark world, floating orbs would show up once in a while. They weren't moving, just floating in place, while they were shining with every possible color ever. It looked like a strange animation which you would expect from a studio, like scratching it with different colored pencils without a single straight line. Those curves were moving constantly, without stopping. They were the only source of light the brighter light. An other source of light existed as well, in form of lamp posts. They emerged a kind of darker light, which made it possible to look at everything, while they remained in complete darkness. At some place, they could make the surrounding even grey

I want to see this dream again

So, the 2 times that I couldn't move my body while I was half awake was sleep paralysis. I got quite a scare because I couldn't fully wake up and move my body.

I have lucid dreams sometimes, out of the blue. But usually my unconscious takes me on cool adventures, so I actually prefer those instead. Lucid dreaming is fun for a while, but I've grown bored of them, I've done most things I wanted to.

>>5631313
But these feelings only occur at my house. Bot at the grocery store, not at the post office etc.

I was sitting alone at the kitchen counter eating oatmeal one morning and I just suddenly stopped and noticed how quiet it had suddenly gotten. No birds outside or bugs. No sounds inside the house. A loud ringing suddenly filled my ears but it sounded like it was inside my head.

>>5631329
Cool post that states nothing or proves anything at all

>>5631307
If I was a ghost I would fuck with people all the time just because of how hilarious it would be. I mean, they're probably really bored having nothing to do.

That's what I thought when I got freaked out by stuff similar to yours. But then I kind of understood I would do the same thing in their situation, then I wasn't scared anymore.

Do you guys just write down words in your dream journals or do you draw some scenes as well? Would drawing scenes improve one's dream recalls?

>>5631344
Uhm, excuse me? I wasn't trying to prove anything, I was posting an anecdote. What's with the harsh tone?

>>5631352
Ghosts aren't real, period. But I will mention this experience i had once. I remember sleeping in a house that was built upon an old Indian trail road. The duplex had high ceilings and a very large open room.

During the night I felt the sensation of without better words to describe a spirit blowing through the home. I remember vividly the sensation of my body feeling a blowing and extraordinary stimulated state. My instinct first was to shut my eyes firmly but then I begin to think of what words a spirit of this nature was seeking.

I began to think, "I am not the one you are searching for, you are searching for the great spirit" and literally I felt the essence blow over me and disintegrate.

I am not a religious person and don't believe in ghosts but I have no explanation for that event to this day.

>>5631275
You're trying to freak us out before we finally goes to sleep.

Take this shit back where it belongs.

This is not /v/, /tg/ or any of the other "/b/ 2.0" boards where you can post anything as long as it's "FUNNEH AND RANDUMB XD;" this is /jp/. We have rules, standards and a board focus. Get with the picture or get out.

This thread and a centipede I saw crawling on my wall have kept me from wanting to sleep in my bed tonight, or turn off the lights..

Thanks /jp/

ITT: /x/

>>5631466
>claiming /jp/ has a board focus
>directionless pedophiles
>moot renaming us because our purpose was unclear

0/10

>>5631479
>greentext
>made-up bullshit

Typical normalfag. Note how it makes no sense.

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>>5631466

Hey fuck you, I'm learning how to finally meet my waifu here. Of course I'll probably get scared shitless by whatever nightmares my fucked up brain can whip up, and give up.

>>5631471
Listen there is nothing more that I wanted from this thread just 20 posts ago with the absolute thrill i had discussing lucid dreaming

And in just 10 posts my mood completely shifted into a fucked up area

>>5631466
>>5631479
>>5631487
All of you just shut the fuck up.
Moot needs a fourth report button for retarded/troll complaints that reference other boards, I swear.

>>5631496
Don't be afraid! Just remember that whatever you see won't be real, so they can't harm you. That's what I do, anyway. You may go through some rough times at first, but in the end, the reward will be great.

nightmare creatures always feel like foam or marshmallows when they attack me, which makes them a lot less scary

I can meet my waifu? You don't know what joy I am feeling right now.

>>5631496
Don't give up anon!
>>5631362
How I learned to remember dreams, as stated earlier, is from being traumatized. I don't know of other methods, other than immediately thinking about what you dreamed about as soon as you wake up. Also, I don't know if anyone else has this but, when I am asleep, I have an almost infinite amount of memory of previous dreams and thoughts, and I can recall just about anything. I'm not sure if my brain is making it up as I go but, I can sort of remember remembering things in my dreams when I wake up, and I also have crazy break throughs that I never remember, feels bad man.

Fun fact, you can alter yourself in lucid dreams
>Become girl
>Make your breasts big
>Feel yourself up
????
>Profit

>>5631546
Really?

>>5631551
I've done this about two times that I can remember, it's pretty cool. Also, one time I dreamt that I was in a store like Target or something, and saw a random mirror and was like "fuck year", because it's easy to alter yourself in a mirror. I turned myself into Akashiya Moka, and felt myself up. Bad end because I forgot to change my penis into a vagina, so I was a futa techinically... I'm not into that shit, feels wierd man.

>>5631559
Samefag, I could tell because I got an errection that was hard to hide under my fucking dress, so I hid from other people in a ball rack.

>>5631560
Fuck that shit, just rape everyone.

Man I was so prepared with my lucid dream mentality until the fucking ghosts ruined it...

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>>5631551
Well, theoretically, you can do whatever you want, but it all depends on your willpower.. and also, I think, the situation of the dream because in addition to you being able to do anything, the dream world also can create it's own strange regulations, or at least, that's what I remember hearing.

I remember in EWLD they have some exercises for increasing your will, but that's a lot of work for nothing as far as I care.

Man, I'm really scared, what do I do? How do I really do this? Someone explain to me in great detail.

>>5631573
EWLD? Explain what that is, as I have an interest in increasing willpower. I want epic DBZ style dreams, but I doubt that my mind can process that at the level it is at now.

I've felt something like this before, but it ending quickly. I was awake, but dreaming, I was looking at my self laying on my bed. Then I got scared and got up, then it ending. Shit was crazy.

The whole flipping light switch and looking in mirror, damn good ways to swing into nightmare-modo, ESPECIALLY the mirror method, try cycling in your mind through possible methods of dream checking, and think about if they could bring potentially scary/disturbing results, if you think it might bring even the slightest negative result, don't use it, and think of something else, I myself have tried the questioning of one's self effective sometimes, but on occasion brings up a negative result.

In the end, common sense:

Mirror: you're not gonna see yourself, you're gonna see something else, maybe not even scary, but at the least disconcerting

Light: thats a quick sudden change, not good, and who hasn't seen a movie where doing just that makes a room of monsters appear. no good

>>5631631
Still waiting for EWLD...

this was spammed over on /a/ as well

>>5631671
Would trying to rip a door off its hinges work well? I don't see how it could go wrongly and if a monster suddenly showed up I'd have a door to hit them with.

95% of the people in these thread who, save those who did the bullshit mentioned in OP's post my god, talk about having traumatic experiences are fucking trolls.

Also, the people saying we can't lucid dream, or that they can't lucid dream are probably also trolls.

Anyone can have lucid dreams if they take the time to learn to have them.

By the way, I've noticed nobody mentioned this, but having a lucid dream and having control in a dream are two different things.

Lucid dreaming can help you with control by making you understand dreams better and helping you train your mental state, but you can have a non-lucid dream with great control over everything and vice-versa.

Lucidity just means you're aware that you're dreaming.

>>5631671
Some superior tips is to make it a habbit to check what time it is obsessvly, like each other minute or so and then trying ti replicate it within a dream.
That and trying to focus and read texts, preferebly whole pages or entire books.

cant lucid dream since i dont dream at all. well, very rarely.

>>5631736
You can do it, I believe in you.

>>5631743
how can i be aware that im dreaming if im not dreaming

>>5631755
Maybe you are dreaming, but you just can't remember you were. I believe in you. You seriously can do it.

>>5631755
I used to not dream, but now I do again because I want to, do it faggot.

Another thing I've thought about

If you do manage lucidity, avoid dark openings, or even anything dark, as that could manifest or display something you don't want

One thing I plan on trying to have a safer experience: I will keep my light on, that way I'll have light in my dream and be less afraid.
More importantly: I'll use some sort of soft music. Think of it as like going into a cave, with a rope tied to you, it provides a connection to reality, should things go sour, if it turns for the worst, focus on the music, find something in it, maybe a sudden change in notes or beat.

But like always, works differently for different people.

If I am aware that I'm dreaming, will I always have complete control? Or will my dream just continue without me being able to do anything?

>>5631573
You actualy always dream when you sleep, it's just a matter of wether or notyou can recall it.

>>5631684
In the time it took me to write this post, someone probably already answered, but I'll try any way.
Constantly F5in and scrolling up is annoying.
EWLD = Exploring the World of Lucid
It's a book.
It's probably not necessary to buy the book, however, as I believe dreamviews.com has all the information you need.
Any way, basically, he has this exercise at the back of the book for increasing will...
And I said this wrong..
I said that it's a "a lot of work for nothing", but that's not exactly it..
Truth is, I'm not sure if it actually does anything.
It seems more like a mental prep thing and I think LaBerge (Stephen LaBerge. Author of EWLD. The Einstein/Sigmund Frued or someshit of lucid dreaming) sometims leans a tiny bit towards pseudo-science, but don't quote me on that. I'm not sure. Been a while since I read that book, and I can't really say much about some of the stuff he says because I know so little about neurology. Might be false memory on my part.. It was only a few issues.

Any way, what it is you select a pointless task to do every day or every third day or something like that for a certain period of time or until you've done it a certain number of time.
The point being that you're getting your getting yourself to do something without anyone else's influence.

After you've done this for a while, you increase the number of tasks you do, and after you've done those tasks, you increase them again and so on and so forth until you're doing like five tasks.. and then you switch them out..
He has a list of tasks to do. They're all boring and pointless like "stand in a chair for 5 minutes" or "scoot 100 paperclips across a table".

How do threads about lucid dreaming in /jp/ actually get enough posts to reach autosage?
Why do you care?

>>5631923
We want to reach our waifus

>>5631923
It's like a really big form of escapism. It's not all that surprising, really.

Had sleep paralysis for the first time this morning. I thought I was sleep walking, but I was in my bed and I couldn't move. I had some insanely vivid auditory hallucinations, and suddenly there was an enormous black shape on top of my chest. I couldn't tell what it was, but I felt this incredible sensation of terror, and I woke up a few seconds later, but I was paralyzed with fear. It took me about 15 minutes to get up and turn the light on.