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Do you feel aroused while you do it?

>>6415474
Not that much. It feels good in other ways. The zentai gives a feeling of sensory deprivation.

My first time on /jp/ in months and a kig thread right up front, yay.

Who is your favorite kig girl, /op/? And what's your favorite thing to wear, or that you want to wear?

How hard is it to find a way to communicate with people without talking? Like, do you guys study other/successful kigs, or the Disney characters at parks and how they deal with different situations? Or do you talk and 'give yourself away'?

...and do you feel like the little girl?

>>6415483
>>6353238

There are too many to choose from. Maybe Yomi. I like her kig glasses.

I want to get Cure Black and Cure White costumes and an Asuka plugsuit.

>>6415486
It's hard for me because I only started this year. I can type, but I have to look away from the camera to do it. I'm not very good at the movements yet. Maybe I need to watch more kigurumi videos. I never talk because a kigurumi is never supposed to do that. You also don't say what sex you are even though others can usually tell. That's because kigurumi is more about the character than the person inside. There are movements that we can do to express emotions and say things. Also in front of the camera the movements are like being a model but without the ability to move your face.

If you live in Japan and have many thousands of dollars, Built Up Studio Sigma has been making custom masks for several years. There is no gaijin equivalent with the same quality.

If you do get an erection, is it sufficiently suppressed by the suit alone?

>>6415520
The lycra zentai is flexible, but not baggy. Some people have made them with a penis sheath.

So, can I buy your mask and outfit, so I am able to actually go out and enjoy events?

Ok, these outfits, are they flame retardant? If yes, with what, hopefully not with something like organobromide compounds?
If no, well, why not. Wrapping yourself in a full body suit that'll melt like burning sticky hot napalm to your body in a few seconds sounds like a pretty bad idea.

Captcha "chemical hiliend", oddly appropriate

Seeing that latest con post on a forum really makes me want to try for making a mask again... I really need to move out soon.

>>6415552
Kigurumi covers your body with the character. So you need a zentai, mask, and costume.

I'm still looking for a good place to get a costume made. My last attempt got me a costume that wasn't made right when I tried to buy one off ebay. Maybe /cgl/ would know.

http://kawaii-ltd.com
http://kawaii-ltd.com/en/index.html
http://www.sgm.jpn.org
http://www.youtube.com/user/ayamestore
http://kigurumicosplay.com
http://www.animegaomaskshop.com
http://www.tigerworks.org

>>6415572
I knew those sites for years, but I'm too cheap to buy a mask and I knew tat I won't use it enough to make it worth it.

I think if you caught on fire doing kigurumi, you'd be the hottest man on Earth.

Any more tips for building one?

>>6415577
Some people on Wyu's forum have tried making a mask out of "paper clay". It would be heavier and possibly more fragile because it's not FRP.

>>6415585
>>6415583 here, those paperclay masks always come out looking like ass. Has anybody tried using anything a little more high end?

>>6415583
Join the forum at kigurumicosplay.com and there's a mask making tutorial section. From what I've been able to find out, first you buy a lot of clay. Then you wad up newspaper or some kind of padding to make a bigger than head-sized or whatever sized ball. Then you sculpt the mask out of clay around that. You then make a mold out of plaster (?) or silicone (expensive but much easier to remove from the clay and mask material without breaking) I think by layering the material on the inside of the clay where the newspaper was. Then you break the clay and remove it from the mold. When you remove parts from other parts, you put vaseline between them beforehand to make removal easier. On the mold (or is it inside?) you put your vaseline and then you layer down FRP strips and resin. Sometimes the ears are sculpted seperately. There's also different ways of doing the hair. Kawaii hair is stuck to the head, but Wyu has a head ridge to raise the hair and it's removeable. There's a cloth covering over part of the mask opening that goes under the back of your head. The eyes can be made with printed glossy photo paper glued to pieces of plastic. The tongue, if open mouth, can be part of the mask or a piece of pink foam. The eyes have a mesh in the dark area on the top of each eye. On mine, there are slits on the inside of each eye and on the tops. The eyes and anything else are stuck to the inside with putty. There's a mohawk of padding foam inside and also on the face and the sides. To paint on the FRP (before you put on eyes, etc), you need to put on primer and then paint it.

>>6415578
Correct, I somehow doubt many wearing fully concealing attire are in the good-looking-enough-to-selfcombust crowd. But there are many careless smokers, furfag haters, psychos not to mention general carelessness since I wager wearing a bodysuit hardly makes it easy to be wary of your surroundings to warrant the question.

Silly though, but I wonder how it feels to wear a diaper in a kig costume.

Is it hard to use the bathroom while wearing one? Do some kig performers wear one out of convenience or?

>>6415651
I go to the bathroom before I do it and then when I have to go again I have to unzip and take off the zentai/hadatai/tights.

The zipper on my zentai goes from the bottom of my back to the top of the back of my head. It's an "open face" type, which means instead of being closed or having holes, there's a circular opening that leaves a mark after I wear it on my forehead and under my nose. You can put the bottom of the open face under your chin, but it makes the neck wrinkle.

I've never heard of somebody using a diaper. It seems like it would make a baggy lump that would make it obvious to everyone you're wearing one.

>>6415651
Most people do not kig for more than a few hours.
Seriously, are there really people who can't hold it for more than a few hours?

>>6415668
Some people like wearing diapers just because. Seriously, ask /d/ about.

zentai under the chin
I can tell from the neck and from seeing many kigurumi in my time

THIS IS IT

I'm pretty confident in my building skills, so I'd be willing to bet I could build one if I put my mind to it. The problem is the body, I'm not quite girly enough to pull it off. I you could tell me how to develop a more feminine body without the use of hormones, I'd love to give it a try.

>>6415804
What's your build like? Wide shoulders can often be offset with a large enough head and proper hip/leg padding. Leg-to-Body ratios can be cheated a little with the right kind of clothing. There's plenty of options to create a feminine illusion.

>>6415804
Don't eat high fructose corn syrup, vegetable oil, or trans fats so you don't get fat. Then get padded underwear and a bra with breast form inserts from thebreastformstore.com. Keep your elbows close to your body, your legs close together, and don't stick your chest out or lean forward too much.

Yes, make the head larger than most kigurumi masks. It changes your proportions.

I always feel the best sized kigurumi are the ones with the most realistic head proportion. Obviously the maks will fit tighter in those cases but it avoids looking like a bobble head.

A feminine costume is what would make you feel like the little girl, some kind of skirt or dress which I don't have.

There's some information on making a mask on
http://www.animegaostudio.com

>>6415470
If I fired a flare gun at you would you catch fire?

Those furry costumes actually tend to be quite flammable you can set them off with roman candles but with Kig I has no idea.

>>6415804
For me it's the opposite deal. I think I got good body dimensions, (165cm, 45kg) and plenty of time. The problem is I don't have the resources. (It's surprisingly difficult for me to find FRP and resin over here.)

I'm going to move to Japan soon so I may be able to either buy a mask or find materials more easily. (Where I live sucks for stuff like this)

I need one of these outfits, with these i can be the little girl.

At first they creeped me out. Then I wanted to have sex with them.

Now I want to wear a suit myself.

>>6415990
Happens all the time my comrade.

>>6415918
Some lycra and hair are made to be fire resistant. It depends. I don't know how the FRP would react to it but it might melt the protective coating and that would expose your face to fiberglass. I think fursuits are lot more flammable than a zentai.

>>6415918
I think anyone would catch fire if shot with a flare gun.

What's the common practice when wearing one of these(Like to a convention)? Do you talk while you're in it or do you keep silent like those people in costumes at a theme park?

>>6419798
In kigurumi, never talk, take the mask off, or give information about the person inside or you make us all look bad. If you want people to know it's you, try cosplay.

How well can you see in one of those? What are the chances of getting your ass kicked and being able to identify that person?

>>6419806

This always means they wont resist rape because 'it can't be helped'

>>6419798

It's equivalent to the people in Mickey Mouse costumes in Disney World. You are Mickey, you are not you.

When doing kigurumi in public, you have a "spotter" or camera person who leads you around and takes care of everything. Some kigs have an eraseable board to write on.

>>6415470

The eyes.

They stare into my soul.

Turn back, for you gaze into the Abyss.

>>6419992
I'm so hot for panda rape.

copying this from the last thread, since it was posted towards the end, and it still sort of relates to the talk of this thread

having a negative mold of your head is a very good idea, quite a few japanese kigs that make their own mask do this. it's the diffference between a generic "one size fits all" and one that actually conforms to your head with no large gaps on the sides. as for the actual coverage of the mask, that can vary too. the minimum is 50% (just the face), which you can attach to your head with straps and clasps. this is probably the best method if you want the mask to fit tight, and also the easiest if you don't know much with wigs, since you can pretty much just use a regular wig this way. the most common is the "3/4", where it goes to right around that bony part on the back of your skull, or a little bit past it. these rest easiest, since they cover all of the top of your head, but depending on how low you have the back can be hard to attach hair to....generally building a mesh on the back helps extend the coverage of the hair. rarest is probably "full head" masks, since these have to be built in 2 pieces, and it can be tricky to create a stable and strong connection between the 2. i've seen several 3/4s masks that have plastic pieces in the back that more or less make the mask a full head mask...usually just used for the case of having hair that's tied up in pony tails or pig tails or whatever.

though wyu's tutorials are the easiest to access because they're in english, the japanese ones cover a lot more stuff, and usually the pictures are enough to get a good idea of what they are doing, if not the exact materials they use.

/x/ here,
These things are... unintentionally creepy.

>>6419806
>give information about the person inside
i think this varies on the relationship between the performer and character. for example, sonya will talk about me, because i am her "master" in a technical sense. she's a doll, given life through me. not very obedient, but she at least recognizes and acknowledges a relationship.

>>6421223
Thanks for the advice.

Wyu's masks are fine, but they definitely don't have the quality of a Sigma mask or the new type of masks that Nukopan makes.

Having a custom-made mask that fits your head shape is hundreds of times better than getting a "one-fits-all" type, so making one that fits me would be my top priority.

There are a lot of tutorials and pictures online that can give you a good idea what to do, I especially like http://www.geocities.jp/nuko003/index.htm since it has a lot of pictures and you can pretty much guess what to do.

>>6421250
yea, that's always great. and of course you can take anything from just about any sort of sculpting or modeling tutorials, like making armor or what have you...a lot of the methods used in making high quality cosplays can be applied to kigurumi making too

>>6421257
You got no time/resources to make a mask yourself? I've always found your one a little disappointing. It's fine, but not top-quality stuff.

>>6421283
there are shortcomings with the kawaii masks, but i love my sonya. i have no sculpting skills to speak of, so i couldn't really make my own mask. though i'd LOVE to buy a mask from ILUCA. i've always loved his masks, and they are tight fitting.

i borrowed an ILUCA mask from a friend, performed some much needed hair maintenance on her.

The fuck is this? Your face must be so ugly that you wear chinese cartoon mask and clown costume. Seriously guys, this is just.... horrible and disgusting...

>>6421306
Yes, it looks pretty good. Fits your body size more than the Kawaii one. I find that the Kawaii masks make the top of your head look a bit shrunken. Perhaps some padding under the wig may help it?

Just trivial stuff. Don't have to make any massive altercations. Don't have to do anything at all, it's fine as it is.

>>6421329
Kig is ultra, ultra weird, even for me. However I like that /jp/ is home to weird people.

>>6421346
oh yea. Red is a much tighter fit than sonya....very small gaps on the side, while if you look at sonya, she has huge spaces on the sides between my head and her. not exactly something i'm happy with, since she has a tendency to move easily if i move my head too much, but she still stays on even if i try handstands, so not a huge complaint.

These things used to creep the everliving shit out of me. Especially when I went to a con and one of them started talking(?) with me. Now that I've been around them more and have seen some very well done ones, I like them a lot.
A LOT.

>>6421453
Talking to you? How is that even possible?

>>6421477
Well, not talking, but that was the closest word I could think of... Until I thought of communicating. That's what it was doing. We were hanging out. It was pretty sweet.

>>6421499
what con? got any pics?

>>6421503
Akon.
I don't have any pics, I'm too cheap to drop even 50 bucks on a camera. Hell, I'm too cheap to drop 3 on a disposable one.

>>6421520
oooh, akon. i went there. know which kig it was? trying to think if i was around........there was a couple times we'd wander down and just chill out, but we wouldn't always stay a single group

>>6421529
I can't remember exactly, I'm horrible with remembering people's faces and such. I just remember that it was pretty chill, until the furries showed up. Those still creep the piss out of me.

Are you going next year?

>>6421543
as far as i know none of us are going next year. buncha drunk assholes were trashing a floor, and going up to our room we passed that floor and they almost damaged a friend's mask. the con itself has kinda gone to crap

>>6421573
Yeah. I think it's gotten too mainstream to be any good any more.

i really need to learn how to sculpt and design though. i'd love to make a gundam girl/mecha musume cosplay for sonya or any other kigurumi

great thread, OP. and best looking miku i've seen yet!

So wait you guys are telling me that people in these things don't even talk, they just kinda stare at you and gesture awkwardly?

They're even more terrifying than I had originally thought.

>>6422579
I've never understood this. People in masks make you scared. If a voice was coming from the mask, it would be less scary?

>>6415470
source?

I was told to post this because she is awesome

>>6424943
>>6424946
>>6424958
Suke, (The owner of the kigurumi) sure can afford a lot of clothes and masks. Wonder what he does for a living and how he gets so much free time?

He's quite slender. I'm pretty jealous.

What is the actual male to female kigurumin ratio?

>>6425120
There's a pretty big difference between the two. There are some female kigurumin, (Such as the Miku in the OP's picture) but they are very rare.

I suppose there isn't much incentive for a female to be a kigurumin.

>>6425120
I think the unscientific generally agreed amount is around 80% male.

>>6425301
80%? I suppose if you include the official Pre-cure kigurumin or the ones who perform for other events like that.

>>6422833
No I work at a haunted house with plenty of masked people during the Halloween season and it doesn't bother me at all.

Kig just unnerve me in a similar fashion to zombies, You never know whats going on behind those enormous unblinking eyes.

And honestly I overplay it on the internet but its just a slight unnerving, its nothing that would stop me from functioning as a normal member of society and I'm sure if I knew a couple people who did it personally it would make that slight nervous tinge when dealing with such a creature alot less prevalent.

>>6425607
Oh and being stared at is just creepy no matter who is doing it.

The opening image arouses me quite a lot. I really have no idea why. I usually don't even feel this aroused from looking at doujinshi or things meant to be arousing.

Would the kigurumin industry be negatively impacted on if a serial killer rose to prominence because he wears an outfit like that?

>>6425635
No because you can't be a serial killer while you're helpless and unaware of your surroundings.

>>6425684

Are these really Sigma masks? I hope they didn't have to pay too much.

Best kigers are the ones that masturbate while dressed in kig.

>>6425720
Really? Which kigers don't? It's almost a given in this hobby?

>>6425728
Requires a hole or sheath in the zentai. I keep mine as clean as possible.

>>6415816


Clearly you know next to nothing about nutrition. You might wanna ask those fags @ /fit/.

>>6425743
troll

This is too much for my mind to handle.

FFFFFFF- image limit.

Don't think it's worth it to make a new thread. Goodnight guys.

>>6425827

heh, the new thread died before the old thread died.

>>6426007
'night

New irisu/erosu Syndrome thread.

>>6429041
and it's still here