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just use boundary team.

Yeah, Keine is one of the only Ex midbosses that actually is kinda hard. Just wait until you get to Mokou, though.

>>6445459
I dont know what the teams are called I dont have the translation patch. I've tried all of them, and although Marisa/Alice is my favorite, I do not have Extra unlocked with them.

>>6445466
The stage is harder than Keine so far. Blowing through a lives and bombs like water at the start. Managed to get through two spellcards on one life on keine, but I'm sure it gets much harder in the last ones.

>>6445496
IN's extra stage portion is trivial compared to UFO or even PCB. And here: http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/English_patches

>>6445496
the stage is easy. try EoSD's extra sometime, that'll put hair on your balls.

IN's Extra is all fairly easy until Mokou's 3rd card or so.
I can survive until that one with the 4 streams of bullets and a giant rape laser which arcs through 2/3 of the screen.

First attack: Stay at the bottom at the very centre of the screen, wait for the read streams to start locking onto you and start streaming either left or right slowly that you avoid the slow rhombus bullets. When she calls back the attack, center yourself again but leave about one hitbox-length between your hitbox and the very middle, then follow as before.
Second attack will leave gaps for you to fit through. Stay about half-way up the screen and just slowly edge left or right.

>>6445496
Stage is piss.
Protiparrus: Stay central, hold shift and when they fags either side of you start blasting fast streams just tap up. When a second volley of fags come at you, go back to the bottom of the screen.
Big fags with the spirals of bullets are piss to dodge, and the fags that blash you with triangles and then spam you with a second layer can be streamed.

Malice cannon?

I've 1cc'd IN and every other touhou game but never heard of that.

It's something like Marisa B(roken)?

>>6445507
>I can survive until that one with the 4 streams of bullets and a giant rape laser which arcs through 2/3 of the screen.

That one's incredibly easy.

>>6445509
I've only reached up to the spellcard with all the bats on EoTSD with Reimu. Like I said in the OP, I'm not a very good player.

If you use Border team you pretty much don't have to dodge bullets until the midboss. Also Keine is the easiest extra midboss, you just have to learn how her spells work. Once you do that you can capture all her cards 100% of the time.

>>6445533
>Malice cannon?
>never heard of that.

You serious?

>>6445507
Her hardest one for me is the one where you become the phoenix and have to set up her satellites.

>>6445558
Yeah, it feels like a contraction of Marisa-Alice cannon, but Marisa-Alice is the shittiest team in IN

It's Border>Ghost>SDM>Marisa-Alice

>>6445496
Use Reimu/Yukari. Their homing shots absolutely trivialize the stage until the waves of enemies that come across the top of the screen before the fairies before the final ultrafairy.

Seriously, it's the only reason I use them over solo-Youmu.

>>6445533
Marisa/Alice, tap shift to attack with both laser and Marisa bullets. It's exactly as powerful as solo Youmu at far range, and if you have the dexterity to keep the cannon firing at close range and still dodge shit coming at you with no focus, then you by no means actually need the maybe 15% damage boost it gives over Youmu. I'm not a fan.

>>6445576
I find the SDM team quite good on IN's extra stage, but that is if you're not dying too much, if you are then boundary team is probably the one to choose. IN's extra stage is really trivial in my opinion, at least compared to PCBs and EoSDs extra stage parts. Mokou can be a bit difficult, but you have loads of resources and deathbombing, which should not make it too hard.

USE SPELLCARD PRACTICE, ALOT!

shift for focus mode

>>6445496
reimu/yukari.

reimu's shot makes it SO easy to clear the stage, you pretty much just have to go up and down the screen.

As for Keine's spellcards, you just have to start in the middle and slowly creep to the side. watch replays to see how high you should be and how you should time it, the first and last one are like that, 2nd takes some practice but you get a feel for it fast enough.

as for mokou, only fujiyama volcano and her last spellcard are hard. she's the only one where I can beat the timing out spellcard. again, replays.

>>6445601
Guh, not even Nue? Nue's survival spellcard is easy stuff compared even to Possessed by Phoenix.
Well, that's mostly because I can never get the timing right on the blue spinny shots. But still.

>>6445441
when fighting Keine:

on her 1st spell card, keep at the bottom of the screen, just between the letters E-N (just over the enemy indicator), and on her 2nd spellcard, keep over the first E... now stand still until the red bullets come at you, then just drift slowly towards the right/left. Try to keep focused/unfocused mode the whole time while doing this, because the pattern will change according to that.

and, when dealing with her spellcard "returning blade something", you have to avoid the bullets and shoot her until she dies.

lol IN, so many safe spots... that's why EoSD is infinitely better.

>>6445609
>EoSD is infinitely better.
>Flandre's non-cards

>>6445608
still trying to clear koishi and UFO.. took a long break from playing now I've lost a lot of my touhou senses damn it..

>>6445626
Gotcha.

Basically, it's terrifying the first time you see it, only middlin' difficult the second time you see it, and you'll capture it the third time you see it.

don't listen to any advice and don't watch replays
figuring out how to beat the games by yourself is way more satisfying that way

>>6445621
>most of Mokou's spells.

>>6445633
This is true as well. I still don't know what comes after Koishi's fuck-you-in-a-circle spell, and the first time I saw it I basically said "WHAT THE HELL" the entire time.
Good stuff.

>>6445518
Thanks for the tip.

>>6445609
B- but IN has better music! Neither game compares to mountain of faith though. Patterns may be plenty easier but they sure look a lot nicer. The bombing in MOF does trivialize the game though.

>>6445639
>Flandre's first four spells

>>6445626
Keep going, UFO is like the easiest touhou.

>>6445644
IN only has like 3 good tracks.

>>6445695
Stage 2 theme
Stage 3 boss
Stage 4 boss
Stage 5 theme
Stage 5 boss
stage 6 theme
stage 6 boss
extra stage boss music
ending credits

My favourites ones from IN, all great songs.

>>6445738
>Stage 2 theme

A very good underrated song, imo. I like it much better than Mystia's theme.

>Stage 2 theme
Never liked it, and for a long time I couldn't even remember it at all. As opposed to being able to sing most Touhou music from the games by memory.
>Stage 4 boss
Which one? They're both just redone PC-98 tracks.
>Stage 5 boss
I got tired of it very quickly.
>stage 6 theme
As far as stage 6 themes go, I guess.
>stage 6 boss
Which one, again? (The correct answer is Eirin)
>extra stage boss music
I guess it has good energy, it just feels repetitive.
>ending credits
Alright, I didn't give that due credit.

were hakutakus are best hakutakus

also, captcha

Just got up to the Flaw of the Forgiving Shrine.

Feels hard, man.

>>6446084
>feels left-right man

>>6446084
Flaw of Forgiving Shrine
Xu Fu's Dimension
Honest Man's Death

If you aren't capturing these 100% of the time, you've got problems.

>>6446293
Hey, hey, even I mess FoFS up sometimes, if I'm not using the border team, and I've beaten Mokou while I had a cold that gave me -1 STR, CON, and DEX modifiers.

>>6446293

So basically, unless everyone is at least as good at Touhou as you, they're worthless?

Says a lot about your self-esteem.

>>6446321

Huge milestone wins like that which happen when totally unexpected are the best. Those are always the ones you'll never ever forget.

>>6446332
No, that's a reasonable assumption. Of those three, only one has a trick, and then it's easy. The other two are also easy.

>>6446293

You're right about the last two at least: I am terrible at Touhou and I can capture them practically all the time. They're just extremely easy cards; they require practically no skill at all.

>>6446321
>>6446332

I'll concede FoFS actually poses difficulty on non-Border team, but the other two are literally moving left and right.

>>6446332

I think he's more of just saying if you can't do those easily, then you don't have a ghost of a chance of beating some of the later cards. Not as a diss but more of just a warning.

People here realllly understate how hard Ex bosses are, don't feel bad for dying hundreds and hundreds of times before beating one. However as you get better it will come more naturally and you'll have less difficulties as you progress. The games are hard precisely because ZUN expects you to already be skilled at STGs. Once you get the skills, then you rake in the kills.

>>6446350
Yeah, I had no lives or bombs left when I got to her last spell, didn't expect to win at all.

faggots i reach extra by just using skill no practice

>>6446293
I'd say Flying Phoenix is easier than all of those, except Border Team Xu Fu;s

>>6446622
The only extra difficulty in Xu-Fu's with other teams is that you need to move up a pixel from the bottom of the screen first.

Shitty touhou player #2 here and how do I deal with Kanako in mountain of faith?

she's fucking invincible half of the time.

shitty touhou player #3 here. stuck at charming seige from ALL sides(ran's spellcard)

wat do?

shitty touhou player #4 here

my finger is hurting from pressing z too much

what now

>>6446676
Let go of shift sometimes. She's only invincible while you're invincible.
>>6446748
Abuse the excess of resources that PCB gives you. Or you can understand the hitboxes of the large bullets and try to dodge it.
>>6446753
Use different fingers.

shitty touhou player #5 here, unseasonal butterfly storm?? more like unreasonable butterfly storm!

how do i wiggle guys?

>>6446786
Remilia's shot type was the only way I managed to beat that one.

>>6446792
Oh, and I'll add, start at the right side of the screen.

im just curious....is 4 out of 736 an acceptable ratio for imperishable night's end:rising world? or am i just shitty touhou player #6?

>>6446838
I don't know, my record is pretty bad too, but not quite that bad...

I just played it now for the first time in a while, and it only took me half a dozen tries or so to capture it again.

>>6446838
>High score: 0
You've never played, let alone 1cc'd, IN Lunatic, have you.

>>6446922

of course not. lunatic is for weird people. the game clearly says so.

>>6446786
I find the best way to stay at the centre and only move horizontally, that way you can ignore most of the waves she sends at you, as they are aimed away from you.

>>6446838
Game of Rising is 100% pure dodging, so if you're bad at it, you're probably not that good. Took me 30 tries to capture for my first time. The pattern is not hard at all to remember so you should not have trouble at that.

>>6447349
>Game of Rising
>>6446838
>Rising World

What.

>>6447378
Like most spellcards, I presume it is named different on its Easy/Normal variations than it is named on its Hard/Lunatic variations.

>>6447378
I accidentally changed the names for that spellcard and one of Eirin's... Sorry. I meant Rising World though.

bump

I hate Hollow Giant Woo.

>>6447668
You're not the only one. I find the easiest way to circle around Mokou and staying AHEAD of her, so that you wont die of spawning bullets. It works most of the time, but sometimes I still get hit by some random bullets.

UN OWEN WAS 20 HOUR-LONG SURVIVAL SPELL

Keine is momo tier.

>>6447668
That one's not too bad once you figure out where to attract the shots to. But before that, yes. Then again, the same could be said for most EX mode spellcards.

guys, I think I've been going about this the wrong way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskYsMJFItg

>>6447786

>>6447786
holy loli vampires!